Curious Creatures

Curious Creatures

Hosts Lol Tolhurst (The Cure) and Budgie (Siouxsie and the Banshees) explore post punk's enduring legacy and contemporary relevance. Lol and Budgie welcome luminaries from all walks of life for revealing, yet relaxed conversation. Audience questions are answered at the end of each episode.

Episodes

April 18, 2024 35 mins

Intense but Brief!   

Lisa Gerrard followed by Liz Fraser 

Peter in Heaven with the Cocteau Twins 

Artwork for Goth and 4AD - Football is The Key 

Surely not - Australian rules football of course!


Wheeltappers and Shunters Clubs!

3 gigs a night and it all paid off

Budgie’s clubland experience leads the way

The Essence of Punk was to throw away the rule book

It was Rough Down Under & Lisa played Solo!


Championing The Underdog!

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Carpets and Bass Drums!   

Strokes of Luck that Changed our Lives

The Cure became Judges with a bunch of Fives

We all took numbers, and we all took a Name 

They were all unreadable when the next day Came 


The Journey is The Thing!

Does anyone know the Way? There’s got to be a way

Fake it to Make it, then Lock it away

The Highs and Lows that made it Work

Difficult relationships created the Quirk! 


The Bells are Ringing for me and My P...

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Affairs of The Heart - an American Thing!   

Shifting perspectives, but Who Are We?

When Confronted with the Evidence, What Is Reality?

Everyone was there Except, the one Telling the Story!

Every Picture tells a Story – but is it TRUE?


How Do We keep Sane?

Uphill both ways and lots of Old Man Sheet!

We’re Still on the Road – Who’s making The Coffee?

Grumpy Old Men? – No, we’re Coming Home! 

Disinfectant in the Morning – Not for the Fain...

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Los Angeles Goes Out - Not Up!   

Reinvigoration and we’re running up that hill,

But are we in the wrong sort of bungalow – Bill?

It was pots and pans and party time when Nabil was only two!

Happy House on Top of the Pops showed Budgie’s Ratamacue!


Drum lessons on the roof – of the National Geographic!

Inside the Hallowed world of the drummer’s secret handshake

All the drummers in Pasadena put together make an earthquake

A Night in the...

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Love it to Death! 

Black Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and Led Zeppelin too

Adam Ant, B.A.D., Def Leppard and Yazoo?

All vying for airtime in Great Falls Montana

Would Lol’s Studded catsuit have raised a Hosanna?


Hey, What do You Do?

What is it that makes Reggie choose to risk all?

When counting a song in, could make a heart stall

It’s not a choice, it’s to brandish, the spiritual sword

It’s the old familiar wave, ‘neath an old surfer’s board.

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Springtime for Ex-Pats and Germany!   

It’s a Top Techno scene, with a strict Social Etiquette

The clubs are all clean, since they outlawed the cigarette

You can do what you want, but you can’t do it here

The clubs are all great, but it helps if they’re Queer!


Make way for the Dancing Disco Queens!

Gay clubs for young punks, were the only safe places

Watch out for the Queens with that look on their faces 

Rubber and Fetish was the dres...

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1st Gush. It’s all Greek in Brackets. Tokyo in stereo to the spirit of Ghosts. The sample debate and the bones of contention continue. No loops or samples except of ourselves. We get going as human beatboxes. 

2nd Gosh. Are drums electric? Are drummers eclectic? Voices on the Air? We got Wooden Teeth! Ladies and Gentlemen, we give you The Sonic Poem. We were Born to Funk!

3rd Push. Cold Sweat Papa’s Got a Brand New Bag and its only R...

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‘Butch - He got the Hooks!’

Topper Headon – He got the Grooves 

Inspiration and Collaboration Clash!

Butch got that magic Snare Fill!

But our Hats go Off to Topper Headon!


'Butch as President of The Roxy Music fan club!’

King of the Fills? – Roxy’s Paul Thompson

Caution the New drummer - Don’t Forget Those Hooks!!

Phil Manzanera - a Guitarist on Fire

But Bryan Ferry - the King of Cool. 


‘Meanwhile… Up in The Canyon’

Our Evening Star, ...

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Bill or George, Anything but Sue!

Clyde Stubblefield always arrived early

Clyde made a so-so kit sound Great!

How do the Greats sound the Way they Do?

It’s all about Recognising the Good Mistakes!


3am Insomnia and the IQ Tour drop!

Hey Butch, what’s on the Weather Channel tonight?

How’s Your Bed of Nails this Evening?

Shirley is a Natural Born Road Dog, 

OMG, when the Catering is terrible - Luxury!


Whilst Shirley was Doing the Dishes...

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Phase 1. In which The Cramps’ Brian Gregory, gets on the Banshees’ tour bus outside the I-Beam in San Francisco and asks, “Was anyone in Liverpool not cool?” 

A Dark devilish spirit with feet like Merce Cunningham.


Phase 2. In which Billy McKensie spares Lol from Death in Venice. Billy in The Cure’s penthouse for Faith singing songlines from another time, another place.  


Phase 3. In which Ms Morrissey is Queen of backstage an...

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‘Fanfares and Tears’

Pan as Magician of Inspiration

Brings Joy and Melancholy by Transmogrification

Pan gets Deeper then Deeper than Deep!

‘Digging in the Dirt - to find the Places we got Hurt’ 


‘Prepare for the Big Reveal’

In front of the TV Going through Puberty

Fluorescent Erotica as Manhood dawns

Between the Adult and the Child

Lies the Hissing of Summer Lawns


‘Sanctuary of the WC?’

Up the Ladder to the Roof

Where Pan can hear Heav...

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Brutality!  

Everything fitting as we’re thrashing about

Looking for Clues as we Twist and Shout

California dreaming no Communication Breakdown 

Lol knocks a beat out and we go Downtown! 


Religion!

20 seconds Over Babaluma

It’s Metal Machine Madness 

Who’s in the Big box?

Drums and Love are All around


And a Dancebeat!

Is Bigger better or is Better Bigger? 

Jack the Knife is the One and Only

Clean or Dry we venture into Geeksville

Thought...

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Dream (a Little Dream of Tea!)   

Shopping Mall testimonials, but..

Lol just wants to buy a shirt!

Recognition comes when you least expect it

Budgie’ll name that song in Three!!!


Fame (What you Need You Have to Borrow!)

On the Way Up or On the Way Down?

How is that Old Band of Yours?

My Grandad Loves you guys

Fred Incognito in Las Vegas


Liverpool (She's so Swishy in her Satin and Tat!)

Fred hears the Gossip direct from the Birdie’s be...

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The Boys to Entertain You!

TV Pirates at Midnight!   

Fred was Envious of High-Class English chocolate

Time for the Test card and a little light Music

Rattle Your Jewellery at The London Palladium 

The Only house on the block with Colour TV


First Drum Kits!

Where did we hide them?

Budgie’s patent Caterpillar dampening system

Lol’s kit Hidden in Robert’s house

Made with Rubber? from Lol’s Lab job.


First Influences!

Fred hears the Magica...

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Bands, commitments, and brilliant haircuts 

Thurston Moore and Romantic Fantasy

Driving and dreaming of being a band 

Or a solo career on the Canyon Grand

  

The Cure climbed out over Niagara Falls.

The Banshees below in yellow Sou’westers 

Happy memories for the Xmas cards 

Covered in spray when both stopped to Play

 

‘One could have it all!’ says Budgie, solo in San Tropez

Alone but not lonely, beneath a Mediterranean moon 

Reaching out for ...

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Lol Tolhurst x Budgie x Jacknife Lee

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Brutalism! 

Expression, impressions and Thrashing About

Body and Rhythms - finding the Space

Favourite guitarists are all really Bad

Everything sounding off-kilter and never in Place 


Joy as an Act of Resistance! 

Impact and choosing the Moment

Being Quiet to being Profound

Convergence from Differing Influences

Drums are Preferred All round


Ultra Mono!

Marc can be Chaotic and Indefinite! 

On Foundations of Solid Bass and Drum

But where ...

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Uh Oh – Here We Go!  

Writing a song usually takes So Long

Jacknife had a melody and the music was strong

Arrow had ideas for words on her Phone

She Dived in Fearless and Created The Zone


Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Ch-Ch Cherry Bomb!

Arrow started out as A Drummer 

And knew the Drummer’s Importance 

Lol could have sung like Joe Strummer

But Arrow’s Passion was Performance 


Arrow and The Ants!

Planning the Stage and the Things that need Care

Cal...

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25 years after the event he would be free.

On his porch in Portland, Oregon

Destroying the wood.

Looking legit in the jail jumpsuit 

Banging cans and smashing cars up 

In the rage room 

 

Remodeled his kitchen with a bowling ball 

A disaster 

 

Issac was as excited about singing on our record as were we having him on the record 

Steve Severin's dance the Mussolini house party 

Syncopate stuff 

Budgie born to beat box 

Our fav line is "it's eleve...

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One of us changed - One stayed the same

Let’s start at the very beginning

The Spirit and Magic of it

A Simple process - A Breakdown of Sorts

Boom Boom Boom Boom


Time after time after time after time 

Composite born of Scribbles and Noise

Three Ideas with Strange Titles

Begat Three lyrics and Melodies

Lol’s Impersonation of a Small dog


My nervous system collapsing like buildings

Bobby asked, ‘Have you got any Lyrics?’

We said, ‘Surprise...

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