Message in the Middle is a podcast for women navigating the challenges, transitions, and reinventions that often come with midlife. Hosted by Marianne DeMello-Smith, each episode explores the messy, meaningful moments that shape who we become. Through honest conversations with experts, authors, thought leaders, and everyday women, you'll discover practical insights, inspiring stories, and new perspectives on what it means to grow through life's most difficult seasons. Whether you're facing a career change, caregiving responsibilities, health challenges, grief, relationship shifts, menopause, identity changes, or simply wondering what's next, Message in the Middle offers encouragement, wisdom, and real-world strategies to help you move forward with greater confidence and purpose. Together, we'll explore resilience, personal growth, self-discovery, emotional well-being, and the power of turning life's messes into meaningful midlife messages. Because midlife isn't the end of your story. It may just be the beginning of your next chapter.
There comes a point in midlife that can feel both confusing and surprisingly unsettling.
You've built a life. A career. A reputation. Maybe a family. You've worked hard, made sacrifices, and checked many of the boxes you once thought would lead to happiness and fulfillment.
And then one day you find yourself wondering:
Why doesn't this fit the way it used to?
Not because you've failed.
Not because your life is falling apart.
But because ...
Sometimes the hardest experiences to recognize are the ones we are living through.
Many women think intimate partner violence only looks one way. They picture obvious warning signs, visible injuries, or situations that seem dramatically different from their own. But what happens when the harm is subtle? When it shows up as constant self-doubt, walking on eggshells, losing trust in your own instincts, or slowly becoming someone you n...
What if the thing standing between you and the life you still want isn’t talent, timing, or confidence—but tenacity?
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne sits down with entrepreneur, creative director, and author Scott Scovill to explore what it really takes to keep going when fear, failure, and self-doubt tell you to stop.
Scott’s story doesn’t follow a traditional path. He went from a strugglin...
There’s a moment in midlife that many women recognize, even if they’ve never had the language for it.
You’re no longer who you used to be… but you’re not fully who you’re becoming either.
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne sits down with Dr. Sarah Andreas, artist, educator, and author of Step Into the Ether, to explore what she calls the identity gap. That in-between space where ol...
What if the answer isn’t to change everything… but to change just a few things that change everything?
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne sits down with Dr. Michele Kehrer, business growth coach, entrepreneur, and four-time cancer survivor, to explore what it really means to find clarity in the middle of chaos.
After building and selling a successful physical therapy practice in downtown Chicago, Michele ...
There’s a moment many women reach in midlife where they realize something frustrating…
They’ve done the work.
They understand their patterns. They’ve processed their experiences. They can talk about their past with clarity and insight.
And yet, something still feels stuck.
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne sits down with somatic psychotherapist and author Melanie Smithson to explore why insight...
What happens when you wake up one day and realize your life doesn’t look the way you thought it would?
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne sits down with Debbie Weiss, best-selling author, speaker, and host of the Maybe I Can podcast for a deeply honest conversation about what it really takes to change your life in midlife.
After decades of caregiving, personal loss, infertility, and feeling defined by her circum...
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne sits down with therapist, relationships coach, and emotional safety expert Diane McDowell to explore a powerful reframe:
What if the challenges in your relationships aren’t about communication or compatibility… but about emotional safety?
Because when emotional safety is missing, everything changes.
You can know the tools.
You can have the awareness.
You...
What does it actually mean to be in a good relationship with yourself? Not the version you perform for the world. Not the one built on how much you get done or how little you ask for. The one underneath all of that. The one that shapes how safe you feel in your own body, how you respond when things fall apart, and whether you extend even a fraction of the compassion to yourself which you so freely give to everyone else.
In this epis...
If you’ve ever caught yourself thinking, “Why do I keep doing this?” or “Why can’t I just change this pattern?” Then this episode is for you.
Because the truth is, most of us aren’t stuck because we’re broken. We’re stuck because we’re trying to change at the level of the conscious mind… while the real drivers of our behavior live somewhere deeper.
In this conver...
What do you do when everything in the life you knew changes unexpectedly?
In this episode of Message in the Middle, I’m joined by Jo Rye, founder of Clarity & Courage, executive coach, and author, who shares what it really looked like to rebuild her life after surviving a brain hemorrhage just days after losing her grandmother.
This isn’t a story about reinvention. It’s about starting from a place you neve...
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne sits down with Toni LaMotta to explore what happens when we lose trust in our own inner voice and how we begin finding it again.
After spending sixteen years living under a vow of obedience as a Catholic nun, Toni gained a deep understanding of authority, surrender, and the subtle ways our voices can fade into the background. Today, she is a highly regarded spiritual coach, teacher,...
For many women in midlife, reinvention feels like something that should happen at the beginning of a new year, after a major life change, or once everything finally settles down. But what if the truth is simpler and harder at the same time? What if reinvention begins with one decision?
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne sits down with entrepreneur, executive coach, and author Adriana L. Cowdin to talk abo...
In this episode of Message in the Middle, I sit down with Shaun Zetlin, master fitness trainer, author, and creator of Emotional Fitness, for a powerful conversation about redefining strength. After more than two decades helping people build physical strength, Shaun’s work has evolved into something deeper, exploring how emotional fitness shapes the way we think, feel, and show up for our lives.
Born with club feet and faced w...
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne welcomes Anne Karber for an honest and reflective conversation about the midlife moment when everything appears fine on the outside, yet something feels quietly off.
Anne is an entrepreneur, author of The Life Hack Playbook, and host of the Let’s Get Naked Podcast. Known for her grounded, no-BS approach, Anne helps people understand how self-awareness, patt...
Many women reach midlife having done years of personal growth work. They’ve read the books, gone to therapy, practiced mindset tools, and still find themselves feeling stuck. Not broken, exactly. Just not settled. Not at ease.
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne is joined by Ranbir Puar for a conversation that reframes what healing actually looks like.
Together, they explore why mindset tools alone can fall short...
What if healing from trauma didn’t have to wait until life finally slowed down?
What if recovery could happen in real time, right in the middle of uncertainty, responsibility, and everyday life?
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne is joined by Emma Churchman, nationally certified trauma chaplain, leadership mentor, executive consultant, and founder of the Trauma Recovery Certification Program. Togethe...
So many women in midlife are craving something they can’t quite name. It’s not another productivity system. It’s not better time management. And it’s definitely not one more thing to add to an already full plate. It’s genuine connection.
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne is joined by Dr. Mickey Fitch-Collins, a leadership development expert who believes that when we center human connect...
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne sits down with Clinical Hypnotherapist, imagination advocate, and award-winning author Michelle Walters to explore how hypnosis, curiosity, manifestation, and imagination can help women in midlife rewire long-standing subconscious patterns.
Michelle shares the deeply personal story that led her from a successful career in digital marketing into hypnotherapy after the sudden loss of ...
So many women in midlife are quietly carrying an exhausting belief: that their worth is something they have to earn—through productivity, perfection, and putting everyone else first.
In this episode of Message in the Middle, Marianne is joined by registered social worker, meditation and breathwork teacher, and founder of The Self-Worth Solution, Ruth Hirshberg, for a deeply honest conversation about burnout, boundaries, and th...
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