Where Our Minds Wander
From the creepy attic's dark corners to the very end of a shadow-filled dirt road, our minds wander towards the odd, supernatural and not easily explained. Pull up a cozy seat and your favorite beverage and delve into our Strange but True stories from around the globe and beyond.
Episodes
Wes shares the intriguing story of Hazel Drew and why her ghost is said to haunt Sand Lake, NY. Beth shares stories of La Fonda on the Plaza’s haunted halls in Santa Fe, NM.
Our Sources:
https://litreactor.com/columns/the-strange-case-of-hazel-drew
https://wnyt.com/top-stories/murder-mystery-haunts-rensselaer-county-116-years-later/
https://nypost.com/2025/06/08/lifestyle/inside-the-baffling-murder-that-inspired-twin-peaks/
Wes and Beth share the surprising and controversial origins of several beloved Nursery Rhymes.
Our Sources:
www.ripleys.com/stories/the-mysterious-and-dark-origins-of-10-classic-nursery-rhymes
www.mentalfloss.com/article/55035/dark-origins-11-classic-nursery-rhymes
www.bbc.com/culture/article/20150610-the-dark-side-of-nursery-rhymes
https://historyfacts.com/arts-culture/article/the-hidden-origins-of-famous-nursery-rhymes/
In keeping with the Victorian tradition, Wes and Beth each tell a spine tingling tale from the early 1900s for your gatherings around the fireplace.
Story links:
https://www.steve-calvert.co.uk/text-dolls-ghost-marion-crawford/
https://www.shelidon.it/marjorie-bowen-half-past-two/
Middle music: Credit: https://www.purple-planet.com
All our links:
Our website: www.whereourmindswander.com/
Description: Wes tells us all about Hans Trapp, the creepy Christmas cannibalistic scarecrow. Beth shares the tradition of the Mari Lwyd, another Christmas creature.
Our Sources:
Hans Trapp
https://www.ripleys.com/stories/hans-trapp
https://moonmausoleum.com/the-dark-side-of-christmas-hans-trapp-the-child-eating-scarecr...
Episode Description: Both Beth and Wes discuss what allegedly lurks beneath the waters of Rock Lake, Wisconsin - an abandoned Aztec City and Rocky the lake serpent.
Our Sources:
https://hoardmuseum.org/rock-lake-sea-serpent/
www.milwaukeemag.com/unsolved-mystery-ancient-underwater-pyramids-rock-lake/
www.wisconsinfrights.com/rock-lake-pyramids/
Beth tells the intriguing tale of Princess Caraboo, who was not who she really seemed. Wes shares the lore of Hy-Brasil, a mythical island off the coast of Ireland.
Our Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Caraboo
https://thehistorypress.co.uk/article/the-mysterious-princess-caraboo/
https://allthatsinteresting.com/princess-caraboo
Episode Description: Wes and Beth explore cases of the Glass Delusion, when members of the monarchy throughout time have believed their bodies were made of glass.
Sources Used:
https://gizmodo.com/the-glass-delusion-was-the-most-popular-madness-of-th-1636228483
Wes and Beth take a look at the infamous Dare Stones which were thought to solve the mystery of the Roanoke Colony. Then they look at the Toynbee Tiles, one modern-day artist's take on graffiti mixed with prophecy.
Our Sources:
www.ernestjournal.co.uk/blog/2019/5/30/the-toynbee-tiles
https://allthatsinteresting.com/toynbee-tiles
Beth covers the opulent Belasco Theater in NYC, where at least two of the audience members are ghostly. Wes delves into the magnificent but haunted Biltmore Estate, where at least two of the Vanderbilts are said to still roam.
Sources Used:
www.thehistoryreader.com/cultural-history/a-tour-of-the-belasco-theatre/
https://ny.curbed.com/2013/10/28/10182824/the-haunting-of-broadways-
Wes and Beth explore the Beatles’ tie to cursed apartments. Beth covers Flat 12 in London and Wes covers the Dakota Building in NYC.
Our Sources:
https://livinglondonhistory.com/death-in-mayfair-the-cursed-flat-of-curzon-square/
https://nyghosts.com/the-dakota/
Wes and Beth share listeners’ stories of their supernatural experiences.
Middle music: Credit: https://www.purple-planet.com
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Episode Description: Wes and Beth dive headlong into the life of rocket scientist and occultist Jack Parsons - a man who was not only a genius but someone who even Aleister Crowley said went too far.
Our Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons
https://bi.org/en/famous/jack-parsons
https://tech.caltech.edu/2025/03/04/jack-parsons-revolutionized-rocketry/
Wes and Beth share the history and some ghostly encounters at the iconic Boston hotel
www.historichotels.org/us/hotels-resorts/omni-parker-house-boston/history.php
www.omnihotels.com/hotels/boston-parker-house/property-details/history
https://historyofmassachusetts.org/omni-parker-house-hotel/
https://ghostcitytours.com/boston/haunted-places/haunted-omni-parker-hotel/
Beth tells the unbelievable but true story of the Loudun Possessions of 1632. Wes tells of the many ghosts that haunt the Whaley House, the “most haunted house in America.”
Our sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudun_possessions
www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/looking-back-possessions-loudun
www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/loudun-nuns
Wes and Beth discuss the “most haunted prison in all of England,” including its turbulent history and stories of the paranormal.
Sources Used:
www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/sheptonm.html
www.sheptonmalletprison.com/plan-your-day/history/
www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-35829980
www.sheptonmalletprison.com/paranormal-news/ghost-stories-from-behind-bars-the-white-lady/
Episode Description: Beth shares the tale of the terrifying Green Lady of the Chateau de Brissac. Meanwhile,Wes shares three lumberjack “fearsome critters” that may still be lurking out there in the woods.
Our Sources:
https://darktourists.com/visiting-chateau-de-brissac-loire-valley/
https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/ch-teau-de-brissac-and-ghost-green-lady-006045
Beth poses the question, "Was Emilia Bassano the true Shakespeare?" Or not? Meanwhile, Wes investigates the eerie Sayre Mansion in Pennsylvania.
Our Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilia_Lanier
https://deveresociety.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/NL-2020-27-1-JAN_KG-P21-30.pdf
www.history.com/articles/did-shakespeare-really-write-his-own-plays
www.biography.com/authors-writers/shakespeare-real-author-theories
This week, Beth delves into the mysterious disappearance of William Morgan, a case that has intrigued historians and conspiracy theorists alike for decades. Meanwhile, Wes shares eerie tales about banshees, the legendary spirits known for their wailing cries that foretell death.
Our Sources:
https://history.nycourts.gov/case/people-v-mather/
www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-masonic-murder-that-inspired-the-us-first-third-party...
Beth shares the amazing Arctic survival story of Ada Blackjack. Wes examines the hauntings at The Ridges, a former asylum.
Our Sources:
https://oceanwide-expeditions.com/blog/ada-blackjack-forgotten-queen-of-arctic-expedition-survivors
www.nps.gov/articles/000/ada-blackjack-stranded-on-wrangel-island.htm
https://daily.jstor.org/ada-blackjacks-secret-weapon/
Wes shares the creepy history of the Valley of Headless Men in Canada’s Northwest Territory. Beth shares the ghostly happenings at Shank’s Tavern in Pennsylvania.
Our sources:
https://99wfmk.com/the-waheela/
www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/nahanni-valley-0016177
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