Ed Morris & Col. Mike Abell with Grizzled Outdoors podcast discuss keeping seniors in the field and on the water - Hour 2

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Episode Transcript

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Woke up five, got on mycamouflage, whipped off for two forty three,
and fired up my dog, headingout to my own dear stand back
in the Pine's gonna give me aten point book with a living inch time.

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So I'm a back once ball grewup on a dirt road. I'm
a back once boar. No betterplace to go waiting on a deer wishing
I'll star. I'll always be trueto my because I'm a backdoors. All

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right, folks, welcome back toJim Straight Outdoors against Tonight. I've got
a couple of special guests. Theyare the folks that had Grizzled out Doors
podcast, which is a very interestingformatt and before the break here we were
talking about it. It's basically eddesigned to help folks who might have certain

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limitations as they age to stay engaged. And again, these are gentlemen that
I've founded, fished with, havea tremendous amount of respect for. And
I'll let you continue about I guess, Mike, from your perspective, ED
talked about why it was formed,but why you're excited about it, because
I know you've been very, veryinterested in doing podcasts work for some time.

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Well, I mean, Jim,here's the thing, man, a
lot of us are not going tomake a living on podcasts. A lot
of us are not going to havethe followership and the loyalty and ability to
monetize a show like you do.And I mean that as a compliment.
So a bunch of us get tothe point where we're grizzled in our lifetime
and we're like, we've accumulated allthis knowledge, We've spent a lifetime coming

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up with all the things that haveworked for us, and why not share
that? And in the modern worldwe live in, one of the best
ways to share it is a podcast. And you know, ed like I
said two years ago and said,hey guys, let's do this. And
it took us a couple of yearsto their act together, you know,
and now we've got you know,got ourselves you know, moving forward.

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And it started, um, youknow in January of this year where we
did a meet Meet the hosts meetall three hosts podcasts. In February we
did a cabin fever what should yoube doing? Uh, you know,
right before the weather breaks. InMarch, we did a Big Game Strategies

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how to get tags for Big Gameout West. Kind of great show.
Yeah yeah, and and and likeI said earlier, Larry and I on
Tuesday morning, Tuesday morning, thisweek, Larry and I are waiting to
log on because Colorado published their leftovertags, so there's always a way to

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get those big game tags out.Well. And here it is August the
first, and we're gonna be loggingon trying to get mule deer tags.
But then in April we did getpeople in shape. Um um. Ed
has a friend uh he um.You know she's got a um a business.

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Uh and Ed can talk to herher business better than I can.
But it's called terrific after fifty andand she logged on as as you know,
a expert. And then uh,in May we did Alaska Lessons learned
because a lot of people don't thinkthey can hunt Alaska, and I've done
a whole bunch of Alaska. Um. And then later in May we did

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a show live from the Elkfest wherethe Department Fish Wilife was doing the lottery
for our Kentucky Elk tags. Andthen we did probably our most popular show
ever to this day. I'm lookingat all the numbers as I'm looking at
who logged on and he looked atwhat We did a first stage show with

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Felix Khalez, who was one ofthe medics that used to work for me
in the army, and then andthen later in June we did a Safety
First podcast, and then early inJuly we did a Keeping Grizzled archers Afield
and that's actually been pretty successful.We've had some some people go back to

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archery equipment and look at you know, the archery seasons are much longer,
and as we get older, wedon't have that many seasons left. You
know. I hate to say itthat way. I don't want to be
morbid, I don't want to bemacabre, but we really don't have that
many seasons left, so why notmake sure you're out there and there an
Archers season which is a much longerseason. And then we have one show

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that's not posted yet. Um that'sjust campfire Stories where we're just telling stories
about all the fun and exciting andcrazy things that have happened to us.
And apparently during that show we usea little too much vulgarity, but I
think people will still enjoy That's that'sthat's the ten shows we have out there.

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Right now, well, and theones about the first aid the draw.
And I want to return to somethingI said when we opened the show
about helping you promote your concept,and that is this isn't just for grizzled
outdoorsman. This is Mike, youand I've talked about this so much.

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This is for the younger crab tounderstand, to be able to tune into
tricks and assets that they can utilizeto make their experience better. For example,
you're off coverage, Jehan to getinto the draw. I don't care
if you're nineteen. That was afantastic podcast. If you're if you're nineteen,

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now's the time for you to startbecause some of these states, especially
if you want to kill a sheepor I mean it's twenty points, are
better for some of these premier areas. I can't do it. The guys
my age can't. We're not gonnabe around twenty years, okay. But
the young guys and that Mike's uh, Mike came up with the idea for
that show was not But you canstill get over the counter. Like I'm

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going to Colorado, I'll be seventyone. I buy it over the counter
and we're in Elk every year.I'll be online Tuesday morning as well.
Mike, Uh, there's two muledeer tags in the area where I'm gonna
be elk hunting in Colorado, SoI'm gonna be online trying to get me
a mule deer tag as well forthat. Since I'm gonna be there,

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I see mulder every year having tag. So yep, and and everybody asked
me over the years, with allmy big game hunting experience, which you
know, of course I'm not JimShockey or Fred Eichler. So people ask
me, they say, how doyou see more elk? I say,
go out west with only a muledeer tech. How do you see m
how do you see more mule here? Go out west with only an elk

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tech. But but to the pointis is we're still doing it. You're
seventy one, gonna be seventy two, Larry, seventy two, gonna be
seventy three. I'm fifty two,You're gonna be You know, we're not
going to slow down because this iswhat we love and we share lessons learned

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that we've learned from Scott Cronin whoseten years our junior who's the co host
of Jim Show. We share lessonslearned that we've learned from Jim hunting with
Jim. We're trying to get people, you know, and when we develop
our shows, Jim and I've beenblessed to help and to be a guest
on your show over the last threeor four years. It's an interesting process

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to develop a show and you know, Ed will come up with an agenda
or you know, some kind ofscript and we'll kick it back and forth,
and there's a dynamic tension there becausewe've got to keep reminding ourselves that
we're not thirty, and we needto make sure we give the advice for

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not just grizzled, but also disabled, you know, because a lot of
our listeners especially, and that's whereLarry really helps, because you know,
Larry was shot down in Vietnam andhe's a purple heart one percent disabled veteran.
We also add that to the context, so we have to temper our
youth and our thoughts about man,I remember when I killed that six p

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seven eight years ago with how dowe still do that today? And then
edge are all good about reminding Larryto bring in the disabled advice so it's
an interesting concept. And like Isaid, nobody else is doing it well.
And I will say this, andthis is a supreme compliment from the

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heart. I don't know any threeguys cumulatively, and I don't care if
you're talking about an aging Ranella tenyears from now or a shock here whoever.
Between you three birds, there isa wealth of knowledge and experience.
It's invaluable. And that was themain reason that Scott and I talked about

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doing this program. I mean,no one else could do it as well
as you got a good example.Mark the way you've got your truck set
up. You know, when youand I first started kicking around and squirrel
hunting together and you said, comehere to Jim, I want to show
you my truck, and how Ican't. I was absolutely fascinated and mind

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blown and how you thought that out, everything from how you're propane tanks,
run the truck, you're sleeping quartersin the back, you're cooking. I
mean, it was a real mindlordto me. And I want to talk
some more about that after this break. I want you all to get into
some of the aspects of how youall still get it done with whatever limitations.

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Exist, and gosh, I hateLarry's not on here because I love
that guy. I don't him aboutas long as as I've known ed and
helicopter pilot Vietnam. I'm shot downthree times. You talk about a guy
who's been there and done that andhe's still going today. pH in Africa
and a license of God and Wyomingand Idaho after he was shot down.

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Yep, Stronger new rope was whatI like to say. All right,
let me go to this break.Coming back from break, we'll talk about
you know, these aspects and letyou all give all these tips and advices
you've got for folks out there.The break is presented by Paul Thomas.
He's the broker Bossy Old properties aren'trealty. He hunts, he fishes.
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out at m P h RP realtydot com. All right, folks,
we're back on Jim Straighter Outdoors thanksto my productioner for these great folk music

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things he's got going here. Uhfor the break, we were talking about
some of your old past podcasts andwhat was going on. But let's get
down in the nitty gritty's about somethings you would like the audience to think
about that you all are putting outthere. In other words, we covered
the topics, but let's get intosome of the well, you know,

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it's it's funny a lot of thethings of course, or Mike said earlier,
you know, we've got all thisknowledge things that we know. Well,
unfortunately a lot of the things thatwe know is because of things that
we didn't know when it happened.We made mistakes, we learned. You
know, you don't do this orwhatever. But you know the funny tip

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that I give people. They'll askyou, well, what's what's one of
the best tips you can give olderpeople who still like to get out and
go hunt and fish. And firstthing I tell them this is why you
want to hunt with younger people,because they make it easier to pack out
the game. Hey, Mike,Mike, does that resonate about me?
Hey, hey, colonel label thatsquirrels up there on that ridge, Foxy

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Streed, would you mind being thedesignated shooter? Of course, I learned
very quickly, not only could youspot them, you could dang your shooting.
I killed a booth two years Iappreciate I appreciate. Yeah, And
then how my buddy was with meand we had two other young guys and

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we killed a moose. It Fortunatelyit wasn't that far back. It was
probably three fourths of a mile offthe road. But if you've ever hunted
main, you know when you walkit's a bog, that black bog you
step. Well, we started pickingthat moose out, and it's kind of
like I finally like, you guys, just go on ahead. I'll meet
shit the truck when I get there. And I made one pick in I'm

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like, well, I think I'mjust gonna let you guys go get the
rest of my moose because you knowyou're a lot young. But yeah,
that makes a difference. And thenlike Michael tell you, we're I'm still
learning things years ago our first daywhen when we had Felix on years ago,
we were always told you don't usea tourniquet. You don't use the

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tourniquet. It's the worst thing youwant to use it for life saving.
And I went and got re certifiedfirst eight and now it's nobody out to
have one in their pock. Yes, And Felix said, it's all came
back from things that the US Armywas I can expand un learned in Iraq
and Afghanistan. But here I amat my ice learning how to now use

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a tourniquet and CPR the way thatI was certified twenty years ago. They
don't even begin to probably do itthe same way. So we're still learning
even at our age, plus whatwe can pass on to everybody else.
Yep. Uh. You know there'sanother side to this, is Scott,
I'd like you to chime in hereis some of the aspects of being an

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older hunter landowners. I think andunderstand that you might be a little more
responsible and mindful of the absolute privilegeand hunting or land. In other words,
it could be even a little easiergame permission, Scott, you want
to speak to that. Yeah,It's been a true honor to call Colonel

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Able and Larry friends. And Iknow that Ed's active and involved. And
I think what the direction will beas they move forward that will be so
beneficial is they'll just make an older, aging group of people remember that life
is not over yet, and theyare going to have access to land because

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they're going to know more people fromtheir years of being on this earth.
And they're going to understand why huntingthrough the week is a little bit more
beneficial and how you can pick andchoose the days that you go, and
like Ed was saying, how importantyour annual check up is, and stand
involved with a good diet and exerciseso that you can have as much time

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a field as you can. Andin gaining the value of wild game meeting
to the diet as arteries and cardiovascularhealth becomes such a focal point. And
then in the end, in allrespect to you all, including Eugen,
not just for your service to society, but your service to our country.

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The ability to come back to thecamp fire and catch up with people where
life has just been busy and familieshave taken priorities and you actually get to
enjoy life. So it's it's notjust three old guys sitting around and talking
to me. It's three people whohave earned the right to get back what

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life has to offer, and thatis time in the fielding on the water.
Well, Scott, I appreciate thatall of us, do you know,
we we've all got stories to telland we've done it for so long.
You know, Jim and I startedhunting together literally nineteen seventy three,
fifty years ago, and we havetons of war stories. It's funny.

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Mike spoke earlier. We have apodcast that hasn't been released yet, just
camp fire stories, sitting around tellingstories. And one of the funny stories
I didn't get a chance to tellit, but I'll probably tell it later
has to do with with somebody thatI happen to know on a bow hunt,
stripping down to the skivvyes and wipinghimself down with Coleman fuel to get

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rid of deer ticks. Of course, Jimmy, you wouldn't anything about that
dog. I'll tell that very quicklybefore we go to break here. And
and several of us were bow huntingdown the land between the lakes, back
when they still have ala deer.They went down there specifically trying to kill
fowl deer. And we got thereand I was already writing for the Courier,

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and we saw the sign there wherewe went into Golden Pub Beware of
the ticks seed picks. And everybodysaid, Jim, what's it all?
I said, just ticks. Don'tworry about it. You know, we've
all been around ticks our whole life. Tom asked me, I might have
had. Well, it turned outwe both got infested, I mean hundreds

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and hundreds of ticks office. Weended up bathing in the omen here and
Coleman fuel and then jumping in thelegs to get rid of them. So
live and learned. The lesson isread the time. Yeah, I'll read
the signs of ten tip. Allright, folks, we're gonna go to
break here coming back from break again. The guys are gonna tell you some

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tips, all kind of tips reallyabout how to stay in the game.
Which is the big deal at transplaya party last end or if free young
hunters and actors out there. SoI gotta go the break and presented by
SMI Marine there at eleven four andWestport Roads. The take great carry you
remember you never get talked by myfriends at SMI means buying new means all

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right. Both we're back on JimStraighter out Doors and again we're talking with
the guys that have Grizzled out Doorspodcast, and I'm gonna let you guys
wrong with some of the things thatmaybe come to the top of your mind
that folks need to know a littlebetter. That go back to your archives
and find out. Well, I'lllet I'll let Mike talk a little bit

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about our recent archery and the idea. We've already had some positive feedback and
talking about upgrades and technology, butI'll let Mike talk about that. That
was kind of his idea. Well, you know, we're trying to develop
a syllabus, if you will,a list of you know, shows that

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can help people and also have somefun at the same time, which is
what our last show is about,and this should be out next week,
is just campfire stories. You know, when you get to be you know,
at the top of the scale,you know, you and Larry and
Ed and then me and a coupleof my friends, and then guys who
are at the at the at theearly middle aged like Scott, you know,

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Crown and your your normal co host. We've had a lot of camp
fire stories, so we had areally good time telling those stories last week.
M But we develop a list ofthings that are important to people and
what we think will be important topeople, and in the future we're gonna
try to be a little bit morefocused. We're gonna talk about strategies that

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make us successful that we think canhelp people get back in the game specifically,
and to that point, Um,Ed and I are archers, and
you know, Jim, I knowthat you have been a wing shooter and
a clay pigeon shooter, whether it'sbeen you know, UM trap or ski

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or sporting clays. I know you'rean exceptional shotgunner. We all have our
techniques. And of course when Edand I heard both archers and and and
accomplished bow hunters and tournament archers triedto put together a podcast about archery,
well we almost got in a fistfight. You know. It's it's to

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get two or three people that arereally good on the same subject. Like
get somebody who believes that two seventyWinchester is just as good as six point
five creedmore, get him in theroom and let him have a fist fight.
Um. But I you know,Ed and I finally came together on
the things that are important about gettingback into archery, and it had a

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positive effect. We've had people contactus, we had one of our dear
friends get back into it. UM. Modern archery equipment and I'm not talking
about a cross bows. I'm talkingabout vertical bows or upright bows. Fifteen
twenty years ago. The draw cycleon a modern bow was harsh. You
had to really pull it. Youfelt it break over, you felt the

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valley, and you felt the wall. Now it's a grown man. If
you're gonna shoot a fifty eight tosixty pound modern compound bow, it draws
a smooth as a hot knife throughbutter. And people don't believe me.
And I tried to explain to them. I taught my wife out of bow
hunt. And if she's on hereright now, she's fifty four, she's

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grizzled, she has gray hair,she will tell you that I'm right.
She shoots a fifty four pound Matthewsone of their older solo cambos called a
halon or excuse me, oh,what's the name of her, But it
doesn't matter what the name of herbow is. But she shoots one of

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their older solo cambos and it's fiftyfour pound drawway. She shoots a three
eighty three eighty four grain arrow.She's killed four bull up or she's killed
two bull elk and two cow upwith that boat. And you know the
setup doesn't matter. Yeah, andon target through the border of the room

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with a legitimately razor sharp cut offcontact broadhead. She killed those animals and
I dropped her off. I'll neverforget. In twenty ten, I dropped
her off in a water hole oneof our best spots in Colorado. I
went and hunted on my own.She wanted to hunt off her own.
I came back. There was adead six pot six bull laying dead in
the waterhole. It never moved,and she's shooting a setup that most people

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would think was light for white tailsat this day and age. The efficiency
of bows is what's important. Thetechnologies what's important. If you can't see.
We talked about the idea of lenses. We talked about verifiers and clarifiers
on the show. There's there's allkinds of technology that can help you get

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back in the game. But ourreal point was this. The real point
of having an archery show was this. The archery season starts in September and
ends in January. How many yearsdo you have left to hunt if you're
grizzled? Not many? Why notextend your season even if you only shoot

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twenty five yards, Even if youhave a self imposed limit of twenty five
yards of effective range with your bow, go out there and if and if
the deer, the turkey, thebear, the elk, you know,
whatever it is is at thirty yards, take a picture. Still go out
there and enjoy the outdoors, Lookat the songbirds. Take those pictures,

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make your notes. Call Jim Straighterand say, hey, man, I
saw these mushrooms. Because Jim Straighteralways has this opening to his show that's
like, what's going on with youknow, the environment and what's going on
with you know life, Like,Hey, the croppie you're starting to do
this. Hey, you know thedeer are starting to do that. You
guys were talking about what the deerfauns were doing and the turkey policy joined

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at the start of the show.You can still see that sitting out there.
And oh, by the way,if one hundred and fifty inch buck
walks within fifteen yards of years standing, your maximum effective range is twenty five
yards, you can smoke his ass. And so that we talked a lot
of technical stuff at now because we'reserious archers. But our whole point in

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that show was to get people togo back out there and try it again.
And we've had some limited success thatI've had two or three people from
out of state contact us We've hada very good friend here in state contact
us. And that's really the premiseis make sure that folks that have decided
to opt out of our sport forwhatever reason, see the error of their

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way and get back in. Andyeah, you know. One of the
other things too is a lot ofguys, especially on the east of the
Mississippi, have always wanted to goout west and hunt. But like a
lot of folks, money becomes anissue. They're raising their kids. They
got kids in Florida. They're workinga job where they'd only get X amount

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of days off and you're gonna losetwo days travel there and two days by
now they're up to an age towhere the kids are gone. I got
a little more money, I've retired, I'm retired, I've got the time.
Oh I'm too old to go domy go take this elk hunter or
mule deer hunt. And our pointof some of our shows is no,

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you don't. You can go outthere and buying over the counter tag for
like I think it's six hundred andseventy five hours for an elk tag in
Colorado. You can hunt a publicarea, you can learn how to eat
scout on your computer. You canget on there, you can read,
you can look at areas and youknow what, I, like Scott said

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earlier, what I recommend everybody isgo to your doctor, get a physical,
let him tell you what your limitationsare, and then you just do
some preparation. They're affordable and youcan still go out there and do your
hunt of the lifetime that you've alwayswanted to go. I hunt out West
every year. Larry hunts out West. He made a two or three trips

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last year. Mike hunts out West. I'm going to Africa next year.
Okay, I'm going to be onSafari. Mike and Larry been over there
numerous times. That's one of mybucket lists. So we booked it.
We bought the hunt, and comenext June, we're headed to Africa.
So don't sit back on the couchand think, well, I'm too old,

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I can't do that anymore. Igot a bad shoulder. Well,
you know what, you can workthrough that. There are things that you
can do to offset. You know, there's rifles, recoil, there's a
lot of things in modern technology thatreduced the recoil to where it's bearable for
you to go shoot and like wesaid, our archery. Now, maybe
the days my shoulders aren't as good. Maybe the days are where I'm not

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gonna walk out in the backyard andshoot one hundred arrows every night. But
if I can shoot twenty or twentyfive and they're accurate, guess what,
when I'm out west, I'm gonnaget to draw it back one time.
That's right, You're gonna get that. Well, yeah, that real quick.
Let me add to that, realquick. Ed has a really good
strategy. It's called Bob Shanna House. And we talked and we talked about

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this earlier. We touched on thisearlier, and unfortunately Bob fell and tore
his shoulder up. Um, youknow, a hundred season or two ago.
Larry Richards has a good strategy.It's called Mike Abel, It's called
me. You know, there's alot of there's a lot of us that
are still really good friends. AndJim, you and I've done it.

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You alluded to it earlier when youand I used to squore hunt. Sometimes
you say, Mike, I needyou to go do that, and I
go do it. And I'm I'mfifty two, I'm twenty years junior to
Larry and Ed and I don't Ican't remember how old Bob is, but
he's kind of your I joked onthe podcast we had. Yeah, he's
fifty one. I joked, likeme and me and Larry are punching John

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and you and Bob are Starsky andHutch. There's guys that are in our
group that are still a little bitmore capable. And when Larry and I
hunted mule deer out in Montana twoyears ago, we climbed every single mountain
I mean snow. I mean itwas so cold. Your fingers were blue,

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your lips were blue. I wasclimbing back over the side of the
mountain with my jet boil, makingcoffee, trying to keep us on the
mountain. And it got to bethe last day and we hadn't seen but
one giant mule deer, and Larryseventy two. And I respect the fact
that he wants to kill one hundredand eighty inch mule deer. I'm not
gonna ruin that for him. Althoughthere was an opportunity for me to kill

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a smaller mule deer and I bungledit, but I told Larry, I
said, hey man, and heneeded to go back to the cabin every
day and get some rest between themorning hunt and evening hun and so he
went back to the cabin. Iwent and shot a giant ten point white
tail. They got monster white tailsout in Montana, and they're way bigger

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body size than we have here inKentucky. And I learned my lesson.
I'm cutting up this white tail,I'm deboning it, putting all the meat
and cape and everything on my pack, and of course it's grizzly country.
Well it wasn't down in the bottomswhere the white tail works. There's still
big bears out there, and I'ma little tense about that. And I
get it all on my pack frameand I try to stand up, and

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I can't flip and do it.You know, Larry's normally the guy that
I helped carry stuff. I couldn'tget up off the ground myself because they're
white tails out there are two hundredand fifty to three hundred pounds. And
I understood my limitations and laughed atmyself, and I just walked it down
the mountain to the road instead ofwalking into the truck. But I was
hunting with Larry, not just becausehe's my friend because we make a good

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team. He has more wisdom,he's more grizzled than me. I still
got a little bit more ass inthe tank. I can still carry.
That was an entire mountain a whitetailbuck on a pack. I put the
entire buck on one pack. Idid carry the whole thing straight down the

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mountain. I didn't go to mytruck. But you know, if we
had killed a mule deer, thetwo of us could have got it out
in one pack, out between thetwo of us. And so there's something
to be said for teamwork. Andthat's something we alluded to earlier that I
want to make a serious point aboutright here, a guy like Scott Crone
and your co host, who's alittle bit younger and a little bit stronger

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than us, can be an outstandingpartner even if he doesn't draw his tag.
Say hey, Scott man, getin the trucks. We'll still eat
good food, We'll still share awonderful camp. We'll stroll drink whiskey by
the campfire. And you can stillglass these deer up. You can spot
for me and when I kill thismule deer. Because you're a little bit

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younger, a little bit stronger,and a little bit more made out of
barb wire, not less like clotheshangers. You know, you'll help me
carry that damn thing out. Andthat's what Larry and I enjoy, and
that's why we're applying for the Coloradomule Deer tag. Now, between the
two of us, we can stillcarry a mule deer in one trip.
And so that's there's some teamwork aspectto what we're talking about, a grizzled

(32:37):
that's super important. Well, Mike, how many times I heard you say
teamwork makes the dream work. Andthat's the point right here. All right,
we got to go to Break.Coming back from Break, they're gonna
share some other insight to how youcan stay in the game. I can't
help but get off that thing,because that's exactly what this is about.

(33:00):
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get choked by my friends at SmickShining Shine on one that's gone. Hey,

(33:20):
we're back on Jimp Rayer outdoors toget We're talking to the folks they
put together Grizzled out door guys.There's something here. I think it's very
important, and you all have touchedon it, is that if you are
looking, if you're an older personand you're looking for a new partner,
maybe your long time and honey andfishing partner unfortunately is is gone out of

(33:45):
your life. If you joined theseconservation organizations, it's a key to that
door that you think is locked,that enables you to partner up with new
folks. And I know you allhave promoted Dad on the podcast quite quite
a bit. We do it oneto find your hunting partners, and to

(34:06):
our fishing partners, our fishing partners, and too to stay abreath because they
all have newsletters, they all haveemails, to stay a breath of legislatives.
You know, hey, maybe youneed to get on the phone because
they're trying to do something with yourlicense or whatever. So yeah, it's
it's very very important to join someof these outdoor groups. Mike and I
appreciate them, and Larry we appreciateever podcasts and Mike for a great example,

(34:32):
Mike, you are so involved withas Cronin is, you know through
hit what he does. Scott theyouth involvement, the cleanups and programs you
can do through your group, backcountry hunters and annivers very violent, just
extremely vital and leads to new relationships. Yeah, bring bringing new people into

(35:00):
the fold is what we all needto do all the time. But part
of what Grizzle was trying to dois encouraging folks that have kind of gone
follow they've kind of let it go, they've kind of just you know,
we've said multiple times on our show, look, just take your camera and
go with your grandkids. Reignite thatfire in your belly to get out there

(35:21):
and get after it. And ifyou are struggling with a little bit of
inspiration, there are people in theseconservation groups, whether it's a lead a
Kentucky sportsman Rocky Mountain up Foundation triedunlimited ducks, unlimited backcountry hunters and anglers,
there are people in these organizations thatare out there waiting for someone to
say, hey, I could usesome help. I know, I am,

(35:44):
I know edits if someone was tocontact us and say, hey,
I could use some help with awhat I just did that this week there
was a guy named Rico Morris fromSafari Club that said he was gonna they
want to get back into bow hunting. I spent two and a half hours
advising him on getting back into bowhunt the perfect example. We gotta get
out of here, folks very quickly. How do they access ship? Got

(36:08):
Www. Grizzle outdoors dot com oryou can go to our Facebook page or
Instagram. Very good, All right, folks. A lot of information available
to you through these guys. Godbless everybody.