John & Ken Show Hour 2 (03/07)

Bill Essayli comes on the show to talk about a gun enhancement bill in Sacramento that is gonna die. The verdict in the Anthony Avalos case has officially come down. Gov. Newsom says California will no longer do business with Walgreens. A man attacked a flight attendant on a flight from LA to Boston.

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There isn't a Democratic legislator or politician in the state
who hasn't blathered endlessly about the need for stricter gun
control right every time something bad happens, it's a given
they parrot the same old, tired slogans. But when Assemblyman
Bill A. Sailing, a Republican from Corona, introduces a bill

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to restore ten to twenty to life terms firearm and enhancements,
if you use a gun in the commission of a crime,
you get you get an enhanced sentence. That's what the
Salley's bill is about. None of the Democrats will vote
for it. No, it looks like it's going to die
in the Assembly Public Safety Committee. I any very strange.

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They all they talk about was getting guns out of
everyone's hands. But you would think if a criminal is
using a gun during a horrible crime, that should add time.
They don't like to add time. There's the crime, and
then separately, there's a gun enhancement for using a gun
during the crime. And I don't understand how you could
be squawking constantly about the number of guns in this

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country and the idiocy of the Second Amendment and the
need for a very tight gun control and not want
to punish the people who use the guns while they're
committing the crime. I don't I don't understand this. Yeah,
you and I have just scratch star heads over this
now for years. It's a very strange kind of position

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to take, right because what they do is they try
to everybody tiptoes and dances around what they're reasoning is
and nobody wants to take them on. Well, let's get
bill of sale on here to talk about this issue. Well,
how are you, guys? I'm good, And John, it's it's
not just any crime. We're talking about enhancements on violent crimes, murder, kidnapping, rape,

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assault with the fire arm on a police officer, and
lut acts on the child. Those are the crimes we're
talking about adding enhancements. So if you use a gun
in the commission of one of those crimes I just listed,
that's when the enhancements apply. Ten years if you have
the gun, if you use it, twenty if you discharge
it in life, if you kill somebody with it. It's
not controversial. It's gun violence. It's a gun violence bill.

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They don't know what to do with this. Their arguments
were all over the place today. But let me walk
you through the history a little bit and then what
happened today, because I think every California will be outraged
if they if they understand what happened today. We used
to have these enhancements on the books, and they work
really well. They get really bad people off the streets
and into prison for a really long time where they

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can't hurt other people. Those are facts and you don't
need a study to know that. So in twenty eighteen
and their mission to empty the prisons, they passed SB
six twenty, which gave judges discretion to impose the enhancements.
So he said, we're going to leave this up to
the discretion of the judges and you know, they're appointing
all these activist judges, and so we're gonna put it

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on the judges. The judges are smart, their closest to
the case, and they can see justice and they'll do
the right thing. Well, guess what not a lot of
judges were dismissing the enhancements. So last year Newsom signed
SB eighty one, which said if a sentence will result
in twenty years or more in prison, the judge has
to dismiss the enhancement. They don't have a choice. The

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judge must dismiss it, effectively taking the enhancement away. And
so today, when I walk through the gun violence stats
in California since twenty nineteen, homicide, gun gun related homicides
up fifty two percent, gun related aggravated assaults up sixty
four percent. I talked about an article from the San

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Francisco Chronicle in which in Oakland, sixty five percent of
the homicide victims are black. Because they keep objecting to
my bill as racist and wanting to lock up black
and brown people, which we don't look at people's race
when we follow cases, and we don't decide who pulls
the trigger of a gun. We're not involved in that decision.
We go after conduct and guess who's on the committee.

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The Attorney General's wife, Mia Banta. She was not happy
that I called out her city in Oakland, and she
made that very clear on the committee today. What did
she say. She said that, don't talk to her about
black moms in her neighborhoods who are losing their kids.
They're more worried about their kids being locked up forever
than the stuff I'm talking about today. That's what she

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said to me. And then at the end, doking the
side of the criminals over the victims. All right, they
do know that a majority of these victims are black
and Hispanic, right, especially in Oakland. Fact, that's a very
inconvenient fact. And I made that a big part of
my presentation today because the ACLU show up in opposition

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and they're talking about race. I said, let's talk about race,
let's talk about the victims. And when sixty five percent
of these homicide victims are black, when black people represent
fourteen percent of the population, we got a big problem.
And why are we looking out for the criminals and
not the innocent victims? Why they don't have a good
answer to that. So the whole narrative today. What do
they say, what do they say to keep judicial discretion?

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We need to keep judicial discretion. We've worked so hard
to get her. And I said, you know what, I
would love to work with the committee. If that's the position,
Let's let's give the judges back the discretion. Let's undo
this SP eighty one, which requires judges to dismiss the
enhancement if it's twenty years or more. And I got
blank looks. They didn't know what to say or do.
And then they as a courtesy, because they're going to

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vote my bill down, I can ask for reconsideration, to
bring it back with an amendment, to work with them.
Mia Banta objected, which never happens. It's a professional courtesy
to let me come back with reconsideration. She objected. And
the message from and the chairman said, don't talk about
people's districts. That was the message that was sent today. Well,
you have to point out the hypocrisy and the damage

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that this woman is doing to her own representatives. I mean,
these people vote for her in office and then she
betrays them. So you absolutely believe her. I don't believe
there's a single mother who's lost a kid to gun violence,
who's worried about criminals going to prison. I don't believe
that it's just rhetoric. You know, the game that they're playing.
They want to unravel the justice system, and they're using

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race as a phony shield because they can't believe what
they're saying. It's impossible. They know that most of the victims.
They want to keep the prison population as low as possible.
They're beating all the bills that might result in any
extra prison time because they want to keep the prison
population incredibly low, if not zero their goal now, because
you know, there's activist groups now that believe in abolishing prisons,

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abolishing police, not just defunding, not just reducing, but abolishing,
and I don't know why. Also, so it's also I
get this narrative up here. They talk in generalities. They
talk about mass incarceration as if we go in and
round up a bunch of people. That's not how it works.
Each person's individually charged and brought to court when we
have a case. Well, that's why, that's why I'm just

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glad you're doing what you're doing, because you've got to
cut through all this phony rhetoric because they use it
as a shield to completely derail the conversation and get
everybody off on some side issue. And the truth is
they're letting people out of prison or they're not prosecuting
people who run around killing and harming. And most of
the victims are already victims. That's the truth, and that's

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got to be repeated over and over again. There's there's black,
Hispanic and everybody else getting harmed and killed because they
will put bad people away because they're obsessed with skin
color instead of the behavior of the criminal. We need,
we need people in these communities to speak out because
the only people up here are these special interest organizations.

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I had a line of them stand up opposed to
my bill. I don't know who these people are and
what groups they are. Those aren't normal people. People want
to feel safe in their neighborhood. But they need to
speak up. This place, Sacramento, it is lined with these
organization and academics and they think it's cool to be woke.
It's a joke, yeah, I know, Well they're all there's
a huge network now, it's like a worldwide network, heavily

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funded by a lot of wealthy woke people. And so
these people are hired and whatever. The radical view of
the day is, they'll go there and shout and chant
and disable the justice system. That's that's what they're being
paid to do. It's outrageous. Well, we're not going to
let up. And you guys should see what else happen

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at this here. I mean, there was a homeless bill
they killed. We were trying to keep homeless camps away
from schools, and the chairman said we should look at
LA as a model. Oh no, the people were dealing
with who said that? Reggie joined Sawyer. He's the chairman
of the Public We're going to call it the Criminal
Safety Committee because it's not the public from LA. Oh

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he's nuts proud, he's proud of the work they're doing.
We're gonna look to them as a model. Oh my god.
All right, Bill, thank you very much for coming on time. Guys,
thank your assemblyman from Corona Republican. He's got Assembly Bill
three twenty eight trying to bring back gun enhancement sind
it looks like it's going to be a loser. By
how many years have you been dealing with that hole?
Because we Public Safety Committee, because because you know what

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we got, we got we got to set the terms
of the debate here. They're are the ones who are
using race as an excuse to have Hispanic and black
people killed. That's what they're doing. And they're trying to
hide because they're siding with the killer the ship. That's right,
they're siding with the killer, and they're using race as
a cover story. They know the statistics, they know who

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the victims are, and they know who the perpetrators are.
And what they do is they intimidate everybody by screaming
racism and get everybody off track and get everybody afraid
to fight this issue. All right, we got more coming up,
John and Ken kf I AM six forty. We're live
everywhere the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John and Ken
on demand from kf I AM six forty. Can I

(10:21):
take a minute to publicize a huge irritation I'm dealing
with currently. In fact, look it just happened again. Uh Well,
my wife and I we applied for a mortgage and
somebody in the in the in the chain of paperwork,
sold our phone numbers and I have thirty eight calls

(10:45):
now today, thirty eight calls from companies trying to sell
me a mortgage, and I think they sold the information
to some spam companies because now I'm getting a lot
of potential spam messages. And I called back a couple
of numbers and their dead end numbers. So some jackass

(11:07):
I don't know, filling out the title page or the
mortgage application or whatever, sold our numbers within twenty four hours.
And I got thirty eight calls and she has just
as many on our phone. Did you complain to this
mortgage company? I don't know. Well, yeah, my wife's calling
and complaining and they're trying to figure out who did

(11:29):
the dirty deed. Wow, somebody's selling numbers on the side.
I think you just got to assume that now numbers
and email addresses are valuable. It's data that these companies
love to pick up, so they pay for them so
they can bombard you. Yeah, thirty eight in a day
and it'll it'll fade off the first day if you
don't answer. Yeah, it's acme with their best shot. In

(11:51):
a few days, they'll stop and four texts. God, I
hate I just hate this world because all this is
just automatic technology stuff. There's nobody to complain to you.
I can't even kurge somebody out of the phone. It's
recorded messages, it's fake people. We are still awaiting a

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verdict from the judge in the trial of two people
accused of killing a ten year old boy. The Anthony
Avelo's case from twenty eighteen has been in the hands
of the judge since final arguments ended last week. Heather
Maxine Baron is the mother. Kareem Ernesto Leva is the
living boyfriend. They're charged one count each of murder and torture.

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The little boy died on June twenty first, twenty eighteen.
Were also charged with two counts of child abuse involving
the kids half siblings. This was a large family. The
mother had kids with different men, that kind of thing. Anyway,
it was an ugly situation. They only faced life in
prison without the possibility of parole because Da George Gascone

(12:57):
did not want to go with the death penalty. They've
been found guilty according to Channel seven. Okay, this was
a John had Tommy case. By the way, Deputy d
John Tommy. Yeah, he's handled a lot of these cases
and very well, and he's been on our show many
times with his objections to the policies of George Gascold.
So good. They've been found guilty on all the kids
their charges. It was not that many actions. Looking. Channel

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seven just put out a bulletin here, and most of
this story is just the boilerplate stuff they'd already published. Yeah,
just came across. But they face a maximum of life
in prison without the possibility of parole. But they actually
tried to claim that Anthony caused his own injuries by
throwing himself on the ground and starving himself. Gotta be

(13:42):
kidding me. Yeah, Now, these these are particularly evil people.
I mean, they should be tortured and killed in prison.
That's what ought to happen. That's what I hope happens.
I hope they get tortured and killed prison by the
other inmates. Tommy called them evil people, deadly together. They
came up with all these tortured techniques on the boy.
I just thought they only face life in prison without parole.
There's no death penalty on the table, not that we

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actually anybody. A cute looking boy too. They got photos
of him here. This is just heartbreaking. This just makes
you want to become a vigilante. And this is the
famous case where child Services got involved that's not new.
They sent Heather Baron to parenting classes. They were hell
bent on keeping the family together, so they thought parenting

(14:25):
classes would solve this. Instead, the boy died. And you
know what the story was. Who the attorney we always
have on, Brian Claypool. Yeah, he said he thinks that
these La County employees are are so biased against Hispanic
families that they see too much abuse and they're tired

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of seeing it, and they're all burned out and they're
numb to it and they don't care. Particularly in the valley.
This is Lancaster Palma. Several boys died up there. You
may remember Gabriel Fernandez was also murdered. Uh. And then
there was a little Noah Quatro who was killed by
his parents Palmdale. It's a whole run of these stories.

(15:09):
I mean, they they this is six stuff. They wouldn't
feed him, no food or water. They beat him repeatedly.
They forced him to kneel on rice on a concrete floor.
Who thinks of that? Like, who all the terrorist groups
think of stuff like that? You try doing that? That
hurts spray hot sauce. Nothing I've done that, but I
could imagine it hurts I'm gonna ask you, not really,

(15:30):
I don't kneel on rice very often, but hot sauce
in his face, whipped him all over his body, dropped
him on his head repeatedly. And this is a sick pair.
So he died of starvation, dehydration, blunt force trauma, chronic
child abuse, torture. That's that's just one of the most
vicious stories you'll you'll ever you'll ever see. And the

(15:52):
mother does this, the mother, I mean, that violates every
law of nature that I've familiar with. Oh, she's particularly evil.
It says here that John Hatammy argued that the boy
was left on the floor of this mother's home for
about two days following about two weeks of abuse. She
concealed the boyfriend's involvement and coached the boys two half

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siblings on what they should say to the police and investigators.
Unbelievable because they were also charged with abusing some of
the half siblings in the household. This was a pretty
big household where all the kids were abused. But unfortunately,
Anthony Avelos was picked out for the worst of it
and he died. All right, We got more coming up

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on The John and Ken Show. Kf I AM six forty.
We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to John
and Ken on demand from KFI AM sixty. Yeah. Can
I a bitch about something for a minute? Thirty nine
calls now from those mortgage companies? Thirty nine? Yeah, you
block me too, right? What I'm gonna have to just

(16:59):
I don't I don't know what to do. I feel
like I got a virus in my phone. Now, well,
you know you can. You can put them in the
block part of your phone. The phone numbers here. Yeah,
I know. Only you only get the phone to ring
when it's people, you know, when you're Yeah, I know
it's getting tedious, but I gotta do that something like
that anyway. Uh oh, dippity doo is back in California.

(17:20):
The Governor Gavin Newsom returned on Sunday from Cabo. Isn't
that nice? But I'm not one of those people. You
know how you think it's stupid that politicians have to
visit the scenes of tragedies. Yeah, you find that. I
find it's stupid that people are upset because the politician
takes a trip. I don't really care that there's all
these headlines well, we go the state of emergency with

(17:42):
snow and the governor left the state. Well, this is
gonna two for one because he got laying around in
Cabo while the people were starting. What is he gonna do?
Go up there with a shovel? Can you serious? Can
you see? Can you see him doing that? Well, he
has gone to what he tried to covering up graffiti right,
do a couple and he was picking up trash along

(18:04):
the railroad track. Slash Sure, for like thirty seconds for
a photoop. But I'd like to see him do twelve
hours of snow shoveling. But where he is a ninny
and he's kind of impetuous. He's spontaneous, and he was
trying to get some attention yesterday by basically telling everybody
on Twitter that California won't be doing business with Walgreens

(18:29):
or any company that cowers to extremists and puts women's
lives at risk. We're done. So after the tweet came out,
as political reporters will do, it's like, oh Neoso tweeted,
we got to examine this. Well, most of them scratch
their head and said, what does it mean that we're
not doing business with Walgreens doesn't really make any sense,

(18:50):
so it looked like just a cheap They call it
a rage tweet, something to sent out to get attention,
to get a headline, to ingratiate himself with certain graphics.
Right in case you don't know what the story is
behind this, the chain announced that they're not going to
ship abortion medication to at least twenty states across the US,

(19:12):
which I actually think is wrong. But you know, they're
a private business. They don't like it, don't go there. Well, anyway,
these are like the morning after pills. Yeah, because these
are states that don't like any form of abortion, early stage,
late stage, any stage. So yeah, because Republicans are putting
pressure on retailers to cut off abortion pills in their states. Right, So,

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I don't know how anybody could get wrapped up in
these issues. I really don't. So reporters, we're asking Newsom's office, well,
what do you mean California has done with Walgreens? What
does that mean? They didn't get a response for a while,
and then eventually we're now reviewing all relationships between Walgreens
and the state, including medical and covered California contracts. But
you don't want to cut off account people from But

(20:01):
if Walgreens is the only pharmacy down the streets and
that's where they get their medications or whatever else, they
can't do that right now. Medical would be idiotic. Medical
is not going to pay for prescriptions coming from Walgreens.
Something like that is all we can make of this.
He's not going to do that. He's really aren't that
many pharmacies left. I don't think people understand how stupid
he is. He's a stupid knee jerk. He hasn't thought

(20:23):
this through. He has well, even his progressive cronies in
the media couldn't figure this one out. No, in fact,
this is shocking. This isn't an La Times news story
by tarn Luna. I couldn't believe I read this next
to last paragraph. Newsom has a tendency to seize on
hot button political issues and make attention grabbing announcements before

(20:46):
he's determined how the state will carry out his plan.
Oh when she mentions that windfall profits attacks on the
oil companies that he announced last fall and they can't
even figure out how to do that? Did that one
get by the editor? She actually pointed out the obvious
truth he's a buffoon. He just blurts things out. You know,

(21:08):
I guarantee you'll see that. His bad on gas powered
vehicles in twenty thirty five is another one of these.
He blurts things out to make him look really cool.
He's a leader, he's an innovator, he's visionary, but he's
never thought through the consequences of this, whether any of
this is practical or wise, or has any any unintended drawbacks.

(21:30):
And he does the default kind of dumb. He jumps
on what's like supposed to be the big national party issue.
So a woman's right to choose, what can I say
about that? Meanwhile, Californians here, I mean yesterday, they had
a hearing before the Public Utilities Commission. So Calgas they
want and San Diego gas Electric they want huge rate increases.

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They want five billion dollars in additional revenue from customers
over the next four years. People are hurting in this
state gas for their car to natural gas for their homes,
and this oath is out there tweeting about abortion pills
in other states. Seriously, he's obsessed with baby killing. He
really is. He's the most irrelevant governor we've had in
a long time. He completely just veers off on his

(22:14):
own path for his own purposes, because he thinks this
is going to raise his national profile on a key
issue that matters to national voters. You notice it, it's
a tweet. He's out of the country. Nobody can challenge
him and say, well, what is this effect specifically, because
he wouldn't know. He wouldn't know how to answer, because

(22:38):
he never thought this through. He doesn't know what what
what relationships or contracts California has with Walgreens. He probably
never thought about that medical recipients are going to get
a lot of medications from from Walgreens. Right. He's such
a dumb clock. I mean, he really is. I like

(22:58):
this yesterday to hear ring this is so Cal Gas
and San Diego Gas and Electric trying to ask the
Public Utilities Commission for these outrageous rate hikes. Apparently most
of the public response was angry gas customers, But it
says here in the time story several callers appeared to

(23:20):
read from scripts on behalf of business groups supporting the
rate increases. What's the payoff there? Why would a business
group has to pay for natural gas high rates too?
Why would they support the rate increase. Everything is like organized, scripted, choreographed.
Oh that's why hearings are usually just they were a joke.
It is all choreographed, It is all made up. It's

(23:42):
just nonsense, and nothing ever comes of it besides some
politicians getting on a platform and just screeching for an hour.
With with With the internet and social media, there's all
these heavily funded activist groups for every freaking issue on
the planet, and and they show up anywhere there's a
TV ammer, anywhere there's a news feed, and they get involved.

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And the stupid morons in the news they just write
down whatever any warm body says. And they don't know
if these people, they don't care if these people are
paid scripted. All right, we got more to come. John
and Ken kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere
on the iHeart Radio Act. You're listening to John and
Ken on demand from kf I AM sixty. For what

(24:28):
it's worth, listeners, believe that what happened was your mortgage
company will run a credit check and that opens the
door to everyone else to realize you're looking for a
mortgage and the bottom feeders will drive you nuts with
the calls in the town, and they're all connected to
my phone number. I guess so somehow running the credit check.
I don't know, somehow I don't know if the phone

(24:50):
number is revealed in that or whether or not they
just run your name and they find a phone number
with your name as they now know you're seeking a mortgage.
Now I've gotten I've gotten forty calls since eight this morning.
That's what two listeners have said. An email said happened
to them, and that's probably the reason why that Maybe
nobody to mortgage. Somebody sold your number, but because they

(25:10):
ran a credit check. The people that some mortgages know
this what a stupid world, as they jump right on it. No, well, yeah,
well you're not getting you're not getting my mortgage money.
You're not getting my business. Of course, I'm arguing with
an algorithm, a computer. What are you moving or are
you buying another home or something? Or I bought the
place next to you. I'm your new neighbor, but not

(25:32):
for sale. I know the people there, not for sale.
You'll see. Why don't you move next to Debrah Marra. Yeah,
but he wouldn't slum in the West, anyone slum it
where I am either. So it's got to stay with
the snooty coffee drink in West Siders. Siago bagel run. Yeah,

(25:53):
all the Ostiago ladies with their extra large Starbuck coffees. Well,
here's the story, en. It means they're on to keep
themselves thin. Here's a story that's gotten a lot of
the tension today. It's crazy people on the airplane. We
have a report from NBC Boston Oscar Margaine. This is

(26:13):
about the flight a United flight that was headed from
lax to Boston. It ends up with a guy who
apparently broke a spoon and tried to use it as
a knife to stamb a flight attendant that he was
opening or trying to open an emergency exit door. Let's listen.
This man has been identified as thirty three year old
francisco An. Investigators say that he allegedly trying to or

(26:36):
became belligerent towards the end of a six hour flight
on Sunday from Los Angeles to Boston's Logan Airport. I
will kill every man on the plane. Where Gary Now?
That was Torres captured on cell phone video after the threats.
Torres has then seen moving from his seat to the
aisle holding what investigators say it is a broken metal spoon,

(27:00):
which he then allegedly used to stab a flight attendant
three times in the neck very quickly, which was kind
of the amazing part of the whole thing. So many
men on that plane just got up and you went
right after him. Now. United Airlines later released a statement
saying that the flight landed safely and was met by

(27:20):
law enforcement. No serious injuries were reported. We have zero
tolerance for any type of violence on our flights, and
this customer will be banned from flying on United pending
an investigation. End quote. Now Das is expected to face
judge again on Thursday. If convicted, he could spend the
rest of his life in prison. Did you see this guy?

(27:44):
I did. He looks like a terrorist. He never should
really mad and crazy. He should have never been allowed
on the plane. You know. He's got these beady eyes
popping out of his skull. He's got the terrorist beard
going on. He's got one of those stupid beaties, which
that's a sign of an a hole right there, the beanie.

(28:04):
And this is not two thousand and one. We're not
throwing people off planes because they fit your profile. Oh
they should though, I would have been right if I
saw that guys, but one million other guys boarding the plane.
I'm saying that guy's trouble. He's gonna cause trouble. He's
gonna break a spoon, and he's gonna go try to
kill a flight attendant stabber in the neck. She could

(28:26):
have easily could have killed somebody. You get, you get
the karate in artery with the edge of the spoon.
How come this happens after they get on the plane.
Wouldn't they act up in the waiting area or at
the gate where their bag or they're going to check
for security, or they hold it all in until they
get on the plane and the plane is actually was
getting close to Boston when this guy went into this rage.

(28:47):
He sounded like he's a schizophrenic. He was trying to
open an emergency exit door, and as you heard, he
took a I guess they still give out metal spoons
because he broke one trying to turn it into a knife.
That'll be the last metal spoon handed out on the
United for Yeah. I didn't know whether whether what section
he was in. One passenger said he was visibly upset.
He was saying he was Balthazar that his father was

(29:08):
Dracula and he was going to kill all the men
on the plane. Yeah, no, he's having a psychotic break.
He's probably got schizophrenia. And he was playing with the
door and it was open like uh like the handle
was moved A course slide attendant to check the door
and found out the doors locking handle had been moved
out of place, right, and then he was moving into

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the disarmed position and he was playing with the slide too. Yeah,
what if happens if he was successful? Do you want
to jump out or I don't know. I mean, the
way the mechanism works, you can't open it in midflight,
right right, shouldn't be able to know because if somebody did,
everybody gets sucked out of the plane. But you hear

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them when they're about to take off arm the doors,
which means they're gonna lock all the doors in. But
it did. I've never I always thought that they ought
to have one armed guard on every flight. Oh well,
you mean like an air marshall kind of guy, And yeah, yeah,
they did that after nine to eleven. But yeah, I know,

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but I think every every flight on a half one
of those guys because all these stupid bureaucratic, corporate bastard's gone.
Passenger safety is our our, our top priority. It's like, well, no,
it's not, because if somebody goes nuts on a plane,
there's no way to stop him. You just got to
hope the other guys on the plane are a courageous
enough to tackle him and are willing to risk getting

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badly hurt themselves. That's not the way it should be.
It should be a guy in uniform sitting in a
in the front seat and everybody can see he's got
a loaded weapon. I like the way people who of
course got their phones out took videos, like everybody's armed
with a phone. They a weird society we have. I'll
stop him. Stop, I've got a phone. They Yeah. He

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started ramping from his seat. Then he moved out into
the aisle and he said, I gotta take over the plane.
Ah yeah, just I just can't. I can't imagine. But
passengers stepped up. They tackled him to the ground. I mean,
we now know from nine to eleven, Yeah, that's gonna happen.
I don't care how many terrorists are on a plane.

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If you have a hundred passengers, you could overwhelm somebody. Yeah,
somebody might get stabbed in the neck, but I saw
long You've got You can't wait and let these people
take charge of a plane. Don't let that happen. I'm
first one up, I'm running right after this guy. Well,
maybe not first, because that's the one I showed the
long verse. The second guy up. Yeah, right, you go first, Yeah,
right on. One person gets for me, because you have

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to also know what you're doing right. You have to.
If you're gonna do it, you gotta do it right.
You gotta tackle him, get him to the ground, not
screw it up so he stabs you in the neck
or stabs the poor flight attendant to the neck. Right.
You can't be somebody who makes it worse because you
know you're a bumbling fool. The TSA would not say
if there was an air marshal on the flight for
security reasons. TSA will not confirm the deployment of federal

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air marshals on flights. They're trained to address a wide
array of risks in the aircraft, the flight crew and
the passengers. Yeah, well that's the only thing about it.
How Come, how come? How come nobody from the flight
crew subdued this guy. He was standing up and screaming
for a while. I saw the longer tape of him yelling,
and I'm thinking, oh my god. You know, if I
was on that plane, my wife was on that plane,

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I can't imagine how how terrified she'd be. And well
maybe they first they thought it was just somebody who
was frightened of travel of airplanes. It was just acting
up in his eyes, manic episode or is You can
always tell him the eyes never should have been allowed
on board. Thirty three year old man from Massachusetts. Leo
Minster is where he's from, so he was flying back

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it looks like to Boston. I don't know if there's
any family or anybody making any statements, but this is
a serious crime. If they really go after him, he
can be charged and be put away for a long time,
and this will be a federal case, which is always better. Yeah,
and invented das and it's on video too, So there's

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there's no way defense attorney's going to get him off,
all right. Defense attorney's kind of claimed that he probably
has some mental illness. We're sorry, but you know, he
was just having an episode and he'll never do it. Again.
They should have pushed him out of a plane. All right,
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