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I am Chris, he is Robber. We're coming to you
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Rob will be along in a moment. He's in his
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fun guest to have on here weekly to talk NBA
with him, So stay tuned for that. But we're gonna
go to the NFL where Aaron Rodgers just at this point,
it's just taking on the life of its own. Uh.
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This this news about him wanting out of Green Bay
and none of the right You're right about that pushed
them to the back burner. We haven't talked to but
we haven't heard about Deshaun Watson in weeks. You're absolutely right,
good point, Um, Terry brash On the legend four super
Bowls for all those Rob g all those who weren't
watching football back then. Terry, what do you mean watching football? Rob?
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I mean Rob started watching in two thousand and eight,
I think. But anyway, Terry brash Off four super Bowls.
You see him all over Fox Sports now has really
become a big time renowned broadcaster. Man Rob. He went
in on Aaron Rodgers. Here he is with him being
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that upset shows me just how weak he is. Who
the hell cares who you draft? I mean, it's a
three time MVP in the league and he's worried about
this guy they drafted last year at number one and
for him to be upset, My god, I don't understand
that Pittsburgh drafted Mark my lone number one, Cliff Stout
in the third or fourth round. I had had him
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coming at me from all angles. I embraced it because
when we went to practice, I want worried about those guys.
You know, it didn't scare me a bit. So I
don't understand why he's so upset at Green Bay. Look, Rob,
I have said I mean, I said it yesterday. I
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do think Aaron Rodgers is whining. If the reports are
true that number one, this all stem from the drafting
of Jordan Love. And now a report came out today
or yesterday. I'm sorry that when the Packers let go
what's the receiver's name? I gotta be honest, I had
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to google him. I never heard of the dude. But
when they let go of one of their wide receivers
who apparently was was friends. Yeah, Jake Kumar, Yeah, Jake Kumaro.
All right, Uh last year in Green Bay, he he
caught uh one pass I think one pass um so,
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But anyway, letting him go up was the final straw. Rob.
I don't know if these things are accurate, but there's
reports flying over the place. You already know that people
just throwing stuff out every day. Come on, that can
that really be? That was the final straw? It doesn't
even sound right. You might not have liked it, but
that's the final straw. Come on, I can see him
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being finalists, right Obviously he wasn't critically happy about it.
If they might have been cool, they might have been friends.
But that's the that's the final straw. Come on, that
just that don't even make sense to me? Like that
would be Remember they got rid of his quarterback coach
without even asking him, do you remember that? Which was
probably a fact that too right now, But but I'm
saying that would be more of a final straw to me,
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that that my quarterback coach while I'm having success with
and I'm working with, you don't even ask me if
we should let him go? Do you know what I mean?
But but I seldom use wide receiver, even if you're friendly.
Come on, I just think Terry Terry went over the top.
As you know that. That's that's what I think happened.
I look, I'm fine with him him criticizing him. Um,
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I this story is bizarre. Honestly, I would love Aaron
Rodgers just come out and address it. The Packers have
addressed it, so it is true that Aaron Rodgers wants out,
has wanted out for a while. Now they've told us weeks,
I don't know, was it weeks, is it months? And
they've all the management and the coach, Matt Lafleur, have
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gone to see him individually to talk him out of it,
and right now he's dug in. I don't get this
notion that I get it that he was upset about
the drafting of Jordan Love, but he came out and
had arguably the best season of his career, won MVP,
and it's gotta be more than that. Rob you said
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yesterday you think it's money, and maybe that's the case.
But to me, what I do agree with Brashall saying.
I said that I think Rogers is being whiny and
you got a chance. You got a team that could
win a Super Bowl. You got one of the best
offensive lines in the league, you got one of the
best receivers in the league, you got one of the
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best running backs in the league. If it's just about
Jordan's Love, I mean, you played last year with that
news hovering over you and being upset about it in
this guy in your quarterback room. So I do say
get over there and go for the Super Bowl with
Green Bay so do I get brashaur ciniment and why
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he's coming from that angle. I just think Bradshaw has
done this before. He called Mike Tomlin a cheerleader and
that he couldn't coach and he didn't even know what
he was doing or whatever. I mean, do you remember
those comments. I mean, just absolutely so. I've heard Bradshaw's
act and we've heard stuff like that before where he
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just goes off the handle. I guess he needed to
find something to criticize a guy who put play probably
his greatest season ever. He said, his footwork is awful,
but he threw forty eight touchdowns. He has the greatest
quarterback passer rating in the history of the NFL. But
he's terrible. Chris, his footwork, he never leans into a thrown.
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That's incredible because what he's been able to do with
such poor mechanics. That's the first guy I've ever heard
of said you know that they're not you know, he
could have said I'm nitpicking here because he's so good.
But you know what I mean, Chris to kind of
give me like the idea that he's nitpicking, but that's
what it wasn't So I don't know. I think there's
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more to the story. Excuse me, Charlie Castilly. He's a
smart man, was in the NFL, and he's right most
of the time when players are upset like that, it's
about money, Chris. I believe Charlie Castilly. I think that
that's the root of it. It can't be Jordan Love
of a year later. He was drafted last year. That
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doesn't even make sense that now I'm gonna take a
frustrations out. No, it doesn't make sense. This guy just
played great and he wants them to cash out. I
just won the MVP, right, I just played my butt off.
And this was another thing. Another thing Brashaw said, and
he addressed that in your comments when he talked about
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his footwork, which was a little bizarre. I don't know.
Next time we get a quarterback Gurguru on the show,
will ask him, um, but he seems to be doing
fine with his footwork. But he also said on the
Herd Rob today Bradshaw that uh, you know you signed
the contract, so play it out and contracts will be
made to be broken. It happens all the time. Team
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But but teams have have ripped up contracts and given
people more money because they've outplayed there. I'm just saying
it has been done. It's not like it's never been done.
That's my point. And if you want to make it
got done happy, you could you could do that that.
I mean, Ezekiel Elliott had a contract, Chris Right, he
had a contract. The Cowboys could have played hardball. They
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decided they needed him. He was a big part of
that team. What did they do. They made him rich,
gave him the richest running back contract ever. It hasn't
worked out. But did they do it? But they did
it though, right, Oh they didn't. That don't mean it's right. Yeah,
it looked. People break contracts all the time. Aaron Rod
Castilely also said Rogers has been paid forty eight million
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for the first two years of his contract per year,
I get the number. So I mean, I'm just saying
I think it has to do with money. I don't
believe it has to do it. And I don't believe
the Jordan love I just don't. I don't think well,
and then there's also the Brian Goudacus, the gem that
he wants him out. They gotta figure this thing out,
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and um, I think you know, maybe a lot of
this is just bluff and rob you know, maybe it's
trying to get them to trade him. Uh, there's a
report today that Denver is going to go. That's going
to be the team that goes the hardest after Aaron Rodgers.
And you got a lot of people out there saying
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they wouldn't trade him. I would do everything I could
to keep him. They're built to win now. And so
obviously if you trade him, I don't care who you get,
because Jordan Love, you think is your quarterback of the future.
So I don't know that you're even getting, you know,
a quarterback if you trade him. And so I think
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they gotta try to win now, try to maximize their
time with Aaron Rodgers. And I think he too, you know,
at thirty eight years old. You know there's talk rod
could he retire, you know, who knows whatever, who knows
what's in his head. Maybe he can host Jeopardy. He's
thirty eight, Maybe he's ready to move on, he's getting married,
you know, maybe looking at another chapter in his life,
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or he can do without it if he feels like
it's a hassle to play for Green Bay. I do
think when you're playing at the level he is, and
we've seen it, Barry Sanders, Megatron, Jim Brown. A lot
of guys have walked away still in their prime. So
he wouldn't be the first. But I would think, man
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maximize this time because if he plays three or four
more years rob at a high level, even then when
he retires, heck, when Tom Brady retires, he'll still be
a young man overall, you know what I mean, like
in life. So go ahead, you're still throwing the ball, great,
Aaron Rodgers, go ahead and and and play this thing
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out and go for the super Bowl this year. Yeah,
I just until we hear from Aaron, I'm just going
to it. There's so many stories. People are looking to
make headlines every day, digging talking to people, you know.
Uh So I get it. That's what newspaper reporters do,
and reporters do, Chris, they dig, look for information. But
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I guess I just want to hear. Uh. I'm not.
I'm not denying that there's a conflict. That's that I'm not.
I mean, green Bay is actually that's not the issue.
It's what it's over is what I want to find out.
And you think he's gonna come out and be blunt
about it. No, I just I just think that we
have a better shot at understanding it because he could.
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He could. He could. He might not say what it is,
but he could dismiss some of the stuff that's flying around.
You know, I've heard people do that, like that's not true.
Like I don't have any issue with the Jenny. He
will certainly be at right, you know what I mean,
like like stuff like that, Like he could say that.
He might not say I want to be paid, I
want more money and then he won't pay me. Not
people don't do that, Chris. You don't get in front
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of a mic and ask for more money. But you
might say, these stories have been so ridiculous out here
about the general manager and me and Jordan Love. He's
a great kid. He's going to be a quarterback. Jordan
Love is me. I was sitting there waiting for uh,
you know, uh Brett Farve, you know what I mean,
and my chance to play. So I understand it. So
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so he could he could address some of those things
and then leave it to the to the to to
at least eliminate some of the chatter, Chris, And then
you don't have to figure out you would say Okay,
so it's not about that, then it must be about money,
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the legendary Aaron Rodgers. What say you? All right, let's
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kick it off with David in New York on the
Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hey, what's up, guys,
what's up? Good? Good? Um? Terry Bradshaw's right, Aaron Rodgers.
Week that Rob Blakes to say about Steph Curry in
the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is just not that guy. Look
at his playoff record, look at his last his championship
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game record. He folded in the fourth quarter. Everyone knows it.
He didn't take blame. I was listening to an interview
with Shock on all the smoke. He just admitted it
was his fault that Orlando's lost. Michael Jordan has admitted
when when it was his fault Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers,
He's got too much drama. He's not focused on winning.
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It's all about him. Like how this sports it's all
about competition. Since you're growing up, how you what break
do you have that they picked someone to take your position?
He's his whole. He doesn't put the team first. If
you just compare the mentality, the intangibles, the attitude of
Brady versus Aaron Rodgers, there's there's a hell of a difference. Yeah,
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and Brady had help because they cheat, because the Patriots
have cheated. No, they have stop it, stop it. Tom
Brady won a Super Bowl with no touchdowns. Stop stop, no,
you hold on, No, you got your sit, No, you
got your saying good, thank you, thanks for calling and
got your say and got to say, is the first quarterback,
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the only quarterback? So you got your shame. You're gonna
sit there and tell me about this and that and
and and now he has this and he has that.
Why don't you bring up that stuff? You never bring
that up that Maybe that helped him. No, that didn't
help him at all. That's why he got suspended for
four games because it didn't matter. Let's go to Kevin
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in Virginia. You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
I thought it was a good call. I thought he
was terrible. He should call Hike and a bad man.
That shows off the air, call that show in New York.
I'm sorry. Go ahead, all right, go ahead of it. Now,
you guys are you're You're missing one big thing here, Roger.
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Why did the Beatles break up because their priorities changed.
They met their wives and they wanted to start a family.
He wants to be near his wife, who has a
career in Hollywood. He sees his future beyond football in Hollywood.
So you think that's it. I think that's the root.
I think that's the root of it. I think everything
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else is a smoke screen. He wants to get to
the West coast so he can plan his future with
his new wife. I think you could just if you
really wanted to do that, you go and sit down.
You don't, you don't put on this whole thing in
the storyline. People have done that, they got a change
in life. I don't think that's the end of the
world to just say I want to move on, and
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here's the reason why they didn't do anything. There's a
way to be able to do it. Hey, you got
your guy, Jordan loves sitting here. He's your future. I
just want to move on. It was great in Green Bay.
You could do that without these other stories. I'm not
buying that is strictly that not at his age where
he because if they wanted, they could get married a
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year from now. Yeah, I mean, I hear. I mean
it's just pro sports. I mean, this is rob Park
for the course. She's Hollywood, she's an actress. She's gonna
be gone to a lot, right, It's not like they're
about to settle down in Maybury. They play games. They
played Chris and Green Bay. They play eight games in
green Bay. Come on, he can be the whole offseason. Yeah,
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that's a little hard to buy. He's been this long
without being married, right, that was it. He could go
another year. I just I just think that that that
doesn't make any sense. Let's do Andre and Massachusetts. You're
in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. It was
going on, guys, good evening. H Terry Bradshaw says Aaron Rodgers,
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he's weak and he should just to let him cry.
Terry Bradshaw. He wants to live in the twentieth century.
He wants to talk about how he had to walk
five miles through the rain and the snow with barefoot.
We know all this and that to school. Okay, We're
in the twenty first century, Terry Bradshaw. Okay. And it's
about player empowerment, and it's about these stars who people
show up, who people tune in to see, having a
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seat at the table. That's the game that Aaron Rodgers
is playing right now, and he has every single right
to do it, just like le Bron doesn't basketball, just
like Tom Brady doesn't everybody else but everybody. Let me
stop you here, Andre, Lebron left to win. Aaron Rodgers
got as good a chance as he does of any
winning anywhere right there in Green Bay indeed Christian right point,
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taking their offensive line, his great running backs, all the
rest of that stuff. But they disrespected him on fourth down,
and they're better dealing him. They're they got Jordan Love
waiting in the wings. He wants to win his way
to go to a team now. Rob g hopes it'll
be the Raiders. Obviously San Francisco will be the best
possible situation, maybe Miami. Aaron Rodgers wants to win his way,
and I he has every single right to do it
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in this same age. Thanks for taking a call. I'm
straight heat it up. You got people riled up, robbed
the way you win at at the first call? What
was his name? Is what it is? I don't even know.
It's all him. He was good call him. Were appreciate
than I do. I thought he hit it on the head.
Aaron Rodgers only quarterbacks ever lose four straight check conference
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championship games. I mean he got some blame too. They
gotta get down. He's great, but you know he's a
part of it too. But interesting stuff. Two legends going out,
or at least one going out another one. So Terry
Bradshaw speaks his piece, carry Kittles will do so next
right here on the odd couple. But first, and I
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do believe for the argument about the I think Aaron
Rodgers lives in Malibu or has a house on the
West coast already already, If he's already, I don't think
he has a beach front property in Green Bay. It's
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we got our man h former NBA veteran Fox Sports
Radio NBA analyst Carrie Kittles joining the show. Carrie, what's
us up? What's going on for us? How you doing? Good? Yeah?
Good man, Great to have you on as always. Let's
get right to it. Um, well, we'll go outside of
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Brooklyn for now. Russell Westbrook what he's doing is amazing. Um.
I first I'll ask you about Scotty Brooks comments about
him being the second best point guard of all time,
and then I assume you might answer that one quickly,
But just tell me about what you think Russell west
about what he's doing. I mean, fourth straight, fourth year
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of averaging a triple double. Well, I mean he is,
I mean reinventing himself time and time again, I think.
And he's doing it with different teams, right, I mean,
how many guys have done that, moving around from different
organizations trying to figure out, Okay, how can I get
the most out of myself and my teammates try to
win games? And then produced at that level. It's it's
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really remarkable. I think he's just an exceptional overall talent.
When he's out in the court, he offensively, he's just
such a threat because downhill, I mean, who's better than him? Downhill?
Throughout the NBA history is explosiveness and now he's making
jump shots, right, he's pulling up making shots. Oh man, Wow,
you know what a talented player he is. But second
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best point guard? That's that? Come on? I know that's
just coach. He played for him in two places. He's
one of a lot of games. So when people start
rewriting history books and just on a prisoner of the
moment kind of thing, you lose some credibility, don't you. Yeah,
I think so. I think um to make those comments
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like he's the second best point I know, I mean,
you're looking at numbers, right, I mean numbers can only
tell one part of the story. Yes, yes, he's a
double every year. I mean basically, and what he's done
is you know who's done it besides the big hole, right,
I mean yes, yes, so he's Yes, he's exceptional, but
I mean in that kind of point guards and that's no,
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that's elite right there, Terry. I think he's similar to
Alan Iverson a little bit of different styles of play,
but Iverson was both of them, they're just incredible individual phenomes. Yes, um,
their number they did things that hardly anybody that's ever
played can do. Um. But I don't think either one
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of them could lead a team to the championship because
they were so the way they played was so different,
you know, and it was it could be difficult to
play with. Um. Do you think that's fair? Yes, that's
that's definitely fair. A great, great comparison. He's a bigger
version of Alan iver you know, very similar in their tenacity. Um,
you know, every possession they play it like their last.
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Every game they give you their all and um. But yeah,
as far as winning championships, that that those typically those
styles of players and how they play the game and
how they apposted the game mentally, Um, it's it doesn't
really you know, do well with winning basketball. You know,
it's it's just great individual play, great exceptional talent. You know,
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they put so much pressure on you. But winning championships
takes a lot more than just that. When you talk
about winning a championship. Obviously, the Lakers are hoping to
get a back to back. A lot of things have
gone wrong there. They won last night. Anthony Davis said
that they're back, or the Lakers back or that. Is
that a little premature? It's premature. I mean, I want
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to see them do it more than just one game.
They be a good team, uh Denver, but I want
to see them continue to do that. I think, Um,
you know, don right now, do you really want to
play the clip if you're the Lakers in the first
round of the playoffs, Yeah, but getting back, yeah, Lebron
just getting back now, you gotta go through Paul Georgie
and Kawaii. I don't want to do that if I'm
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the Lakers. I'm not saying they couldn't get past the Clippers,
but I'm just thinking they gotta play. They gotta play
some good basketball. Donald stretch for me to be able
to say, you know, they're gonna come out the West.
That's that's that's a strong statement right now. The West.
I mean, we know it's been the superior conference for
a long time now, and probably it certainly is as
far as depth, maybe not as top heavy as the East.
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But I gotta say this, Karrie and I got concerns
about the Lakers like everybody else, but I'm also looking
at the teams that are really good. But I'm not
scared Utah. I'm not scared of especially with Donovan Mitchell
still out. You know he'll come back, but he'll be
coming off the ankle injury. Phoenix. I'm not afraid of
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um Denver there now with Jamal Murray, I know they
played great, but their second best player, Michael Porter Jr.
Who's a young stud but he's twenty two. I don't
know that he's gonna come right into a playoff series
and play well against some of these superstars. Um And
you mentioned maybe it's the Clippers, but I don't see
a world beater out there that really I'm like, oh,
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there's no way the Lakers could beat them. What do
you think about that? You know, the rest is kind
of open when you look at it. I mean looking
at it right now. I mean you're right, like no
one's fearing Denver, no one's fearing Utah, right, So if
you no one is anybody fearing the Lakers and what
they've turned in? And you know what I mean, like
factor is not there for the life. I just think
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being a former NBA player playing against Lebron in the playoffs,
you worried about that. I don't care who you are,
even though he hasn't won that all. I mean he's
only won times in seventeen tries. He's carried his team
to the finals time and time again. You are worried
about Lebron James and Anthony Davis, no question about it.
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There's no question about it. Could be no, because he
figures out how to win. He's just he's a problem solver. Right,
you put the guys around them, he says, Okay, it's
my guys this year. All right, let's see what we
could do. Boom NBA Finals. Right. I mean, yes, he's
got turning around them, but he just figured it out. Yeah,
it just needs to me carried that the the too
(27:26):
many things need to go right That's why I'm out
on the Lakers. You know, with the team that they have,
I don't feel good about it. This isn't the team
that won the championship. Uh, you know, and and ad
a d and where Lebron is. I just there's something
that feels amiss. And I get what you're saying about
the history, and it's always easier to pick somebody, but
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there's gonna come a time where where Lebron is gonna
get beat. And I think this could be that time
where they're more vulnerable and they just haven't played together,
they just aren't healthy enough, and they could lose. And
I agree that that's all. I just I just think
that that that if you're gonna if I'm gonna pick
a time for Lebron to lose and not get there
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would be this year. Yes, you're right. I mean, you know,
basketball too, is timing right. You gotta have guys healthy.
We're seeing guys in and out protocols injuries throughout the
entire league, and so this year, I mean, the Lakers
have been They've had a lot of adversaries. So you're right,
this is the year if you're gonna knock Lebron off yes, Carrie,
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how much? And you obviously played in the league and
not just from your own experience but other players, the
teammates or what have you. How much of this do
you think Lebron? You know, coming back from this injury
is taken a long time, Like as you get older
and he's thirty six in his eighteenth year, does it
take your body longer to recover from injuries? Like I'm
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thinking six seven years ago he would have been through
this injury. I know there are certain injuries you just
they are what they are. You can't come back from.
But is age a factor in that? Age is a factor.
Medicine is changing year in and year out. Everything is changing,
and I think he's just they're just trying to err
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on the side of car Can you buy him another week?
Can you buy him a few more days of rest?
You know, this game is so far as there's so
much stress. We talk about this every time I'm on
your show. I think the more rest he has, he's
already gonna be mentally sharp. He will figure that part out,
you know, one game and then he's there, right. So,
but yeah, I'm worried about his age. I'm worried about
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the recovery. I'm worried, you know, you're having these kind
of injuries late in the season, regular season, it's concerning,
you know, same in the East with James Harden. It
is concerning, right right, No doubt it's gonna be interesting.
And we mentioned briefly carry about the Suns and nobody
buys into them. But but shouldn't it be I get it.
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They hadn't made the playoffs since Moby Dick was a
guppy is been a long time. But uh, Chris Paul,
does that not make them more dangerous? Of why people
should believe? And I know he hadn't gotten to the
conference finals or he hadn't been able to get to
the finals, I should say, and be able to get
to the finals. But but doesn't he add some some
playoff you know, know how, an experience that could elevate
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those other young guys where I've been there, Yeah, no
question about that. I think Chris Paul, you know, he's
he's been playing really well as of late um and
he's got surrounding talent around him. I think, you know, Booker,
this is this is probably his year to really show
out in the playoffs. They did it in the bubble
when undefeated. Um, you know, they have some really good
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talent and um, you know Bridges and Eyton. So I
think if you're in the West you're concerned about You're
concerned about Phoenix for sure. I think you saw the
William moved the ball, and how they play together as
a unit is um, you know that the biggest asset.
But I definitely think these is gonna cost them somewhere
in the playoffs. I really do there. They are a
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Western Conference playoff team in my opinion, Carrie. I know,
I know you don't like to give this team props,
but the New York Knicks are actually balling all right.
They're the fourth seed in the East and people talk about,
you know, they've won twelve or thirteen I believe, But
if you go back thirty nine games their record over
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that stretch, would they want about sixty six percent of
those games, that would be the second best record. If
you stretched that over eighty two games, that'd be the
second best record in the Eastern Conference right now. So
they're playing really good basketball. I want to ask you this,
how much of a threat are they to upset one
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of the three top teams in the East Philadelphia, Brooklyn
or Milwaukee. No, they're legit threat. Threat. I think because
of how they guard right and obviously the merchants of
Randall this year has been a supprise to all of us.
We didn't see us coming. I mean, hey, some players
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take time to develop and have that breakthrough. You know
what you want Tips credit. You gotta give Tips credit.
This is coaching getting the most out of his player
and the and the any committed in the off season.
Like they didn't make it in the bubble. He committed
in the off season, got himself into great shape. Yes,
but I mean Tips and his staff. I mean while
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so as a unit, they played so hard together Luca
Rows and what he was doing, So you are I'm
turning it in the East. I agree with you the
Knick star for what they are because they're gonna grind
it out, They're gonna play as more small basketball as
they can, and today's style of player, they're gonna try to,
you know, junk it up and and and they've been
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able to play well offensively. Didn't get it done. So
they are definitely a threat. And Randall's only twenty six
years old. I mean think about like he's been in
the league like he's thirty six, like I've been around forever.
That's what I'm shocked. He's that young. Yeah, it's gonna
be interesting to see where his career goes. But I
agree Tips. This is kind of what Tips did with
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Derek Rose, and um, you know Randall's in that role now.
All right, carry great stuff as always, Fether, We appreciate
the knowledge. All right, my man. Okay, morey. I Couple
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We're gonna switch to Major League Baseball for a moment. Rob.
We were talking yesterday about Alex Rodriguez his comment that
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if he was Francisco Blanduers hitting coach, he would or
he would fire Francisco Lindor's hitting coach if Lindor hit
over twenty five home runs. Little did we know it
ain't had nothing to do with Lindor hitting home runs.
But Chili Davis is out of a job. He's gone,
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and his assistant and take him with you. That's that's
the last thing Steve Cohen said, or whoever fired him
and thank him with you. That's I mean, is this?
I mean, look, they can't hit rob they got awesome pitching. No,
they're struggling. There's no doubt. And we know how this
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game works, Chris. If you're not a part of the solution,
you're part of the problem. And if and when when
when When pitching staffs do well, pitching coaches get raises,
they get all kinds of stuff and accolades, I get it.
And when you're the hitting coaching, guys on hitting. But
I'm telling you this firing is over, lindor not. I'm
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not saying that the Mets struggle. Whole team. Yeah, they're
the whole team. Run I'm Chris, I get that. But Lindore,
who they paid three hundred and forty one million dollars
all guaranteed, who's in an old for twenty three drought,
who looked terrible when I watched the one sixty three. Dude,
I watched him on Sunday Night baseball take awful swings.
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That's what a rod was talking about because they were
all like looping swings, like you're trying to pit the
ball out the park instead of hitting the ball on
the ground going the other way. I talked about it yesterday.
If he's going the other way where the pitches swinging
the hitting ball to left field center field, Chris, you'd
feel better about his approach at the plate. That's what
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a Rod was talking about his approach. So let me
ask you this, and look, you may not know the answer,
but you can certainly theorize about it. We've seen you
and I we've both been in New York covering, you know,
for two decades, essentially covering sports in New York, and
you've seen guys come here and not live up to
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the billing, whether it's the cliche of you know, the
big apple and the pressure and all of that. But
it's happened, Rob. And I know it's early, but you're
talking about a four time All Star. You're talking about
a guy that's you know, typically thirty plus home runs
and my god, it's a top ten MVP candidate you
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know most years. Is what do you think is going on?
I mean, it could just be a slump and everybody
goes through slumps in baseball. But are you really concerned
that this dude might not be cut out for the
bright lights of New York City. Yeah? I know, if
he was playing for the Yankees, maybe, Chris, maybe, but
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the Mets, or I get the New York thing, but
the Mets don't have the same expectation. I've seen guys
will go putting on the pinstripes. Do you know what
I mean? I just think Lindor, I don't know if
he's psyched himself out mentally. You know, you get you finally,
you know, you wait for that big payday to come right,
and now you feel like, I gotta I gotta play
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now form right, live up to it. Chris. They gave
me three hundred and forty one million dollars. I'm gonna
get every dime over the next twelve years, and now
I gotta be that guy I was. I was cool
in Cleveland playing for you know, good money, Chris, not
great money, right, he was just playing. He was a
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fun loving kid. And it must know anonymity compared to this, Yes, yeah,
it's I mean, look, it's it's certainly too early to
write him off. It's twenty years. You just brought up
the point, didn't you just bring up the Yankees how
they were dead two weeks ago exactly? People are talking
about they're horrible, right, and so you gotta let this
thing play out. But um, it's concerning and he's not
(37:54):
getting it done. And Rob, look a Chili Davis. I
remember him as a player. But if they're not producing,
and one thing this new ownership is shown, he's trying, Rob,
We'll see what happens. He's trying to get a good
product out there and get a World Series for New
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York Mets. And so I think he was like, look
before this season and they're still near five hundred, so
the season is far from lost. But I think he's like,
before this thing goes too far and we're too far gone,
let me see if I can write the ship. No,
you have to. I get that. And I think that
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you know, like you you gotta give somebody's blood, you know,
like we see it all the time. Chris uh the
defensive coordinate at Green Bay, Right, wasn't that didn't get
if he got fired right? Right? Because they gave up
that bad down in the playoff game, Right, this is
somebody we're not We're not going to just accept it.
This this shouldn't have happened, And so somebody's gonna be blamed.
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And if you're not gonna get rid of the head
coach or the or the manager, then somebody on his
staff is gonna pay the price to left. Fans know,
we know it ain't going, it ain't working, and we're
holding people accountable, and players know they're being held accountable.
Do you know what I mean? Like like if you're
not gonna just be sacheting around here making big money
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and not producing, and if you don't, we'll get we'll
move on from you too. Not that they're going anywhere
from Lindor, but you know what I mean. It's perception,
the reports tour that Chile, you know, maybe being a
former player that he wasn't and I don't know right
when you and I, you know, our stance on analytics
is well known, but that yeah, that he's yeah, he's
(39:41):
not the analytic guy. He's not giving the individual instruction.
He's not you know, putting the technology in front of
these guys, and that you know that other guys are
giving them and so you know, that's that's part of
what is being talked about. So we'll see. I mean,
I think if they do, you have a turn around.
I mean, you got guys, you know, Peter, Lionzo, Lindor like,
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they should be able to put some runs up on
the board. And if they do, rob they could be
they could be dangerous because their pitching is great. The
pitching is outstanding. But yeah, so even though the Guam
now is hurt, right, yeah, yeah, and that's obviously that's terrible.
All right, an hour left odd couple
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Rob will be along in a moment. He's in his
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in the world of sports. We got Carrie Kittles joining
us at the bottom of the hour. Really become a
fun guest to have on here weekly to talk NBA
with him, So stay tuned for that. But we're gonna
go to the NFL where Aaron Rodgers just at this point,
it's just taking on the life of its own. Uh.
(01:31):
This this news about him wanting out of Green Bay
and none of the right You're right about that pushed
them to the back burner. We haven't talked to but
we haven't heard about Deshaun Watson in weeks. You're absolutely right,
good point, Um, Terry brash On the legend four super
Bowls for all those Rob g all those who weren't
watching football back then. Terry, what do you mean watching football? Rob?
(01:56):
I mean Rob started watching in two thousand and eight,
I think. But anyway, Terry brash Off four super Bowls.
You see him all over Fox Sports now has really
become a big time renowned broadcaster. Man Rob. He went
in on Aaron Rodgers. Here he is with him being
(02:19):
that upset shows me just how weak he is. Who
the hell cares who you draft? I mean, it's a
three time MVP in the league and he's worried about
this guy they drafted last year at number one and
for him to be upset, My god, I don't understand
that Pittsburgh drafted Mark my lone number one, Cliff Stout
in the third or fourth round. I had had him
(02:41):
coming at me from all angles. I embraced it because
when we went to practice, I want worried about those guys.
You know, it didn't scare me a bit. So I
don't understand why he's so upset at Green Bay. Look, Rob,
I have said I mean, I said it yesterday. I
(03:02):
do think Aaron Rodgers is whining. If the reports are
true that number one, this all stem from the drafting
of Jordan Love. And now a report came out today
or yesterday. I'm sorry that when the Packers let go
what's the receiver's name? I gotta be honest, I had
(03:24):
to google him. I never heard of the dude. But
when they let go of one of their wide receivers
who apparently was was friends. Yeah, Jake Kumar, Yeah, Jake Kumaro.
All right, Uh last year in Green Bay, he he
caught uh one pass I think one pass um so,
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But anyway, letting him go up was the final straw. Rob.
I don't know if these things are accurate, but there's
reports flying over the place. You already know that people
just throwing stuff out every day. Come on, that can
that really be? That was the final straw? It doesn't
even sound right. You might not have liked it, but
that's the final straw. Come on, I can see him
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being finalists, right Obviously he wasn't critically happy about it.
If they might have been cool, they might have been friends.
But that's the that's the final straw. Come on, that
just that don't even make sense to me? Like that
would be Remember they got rid of his quarterback coach
without even asking him, do you remember that? Which was
probably a fact that too right now, But but I'm
saying that would be more of a final straw to me,
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that that my quarterback coach while I'm having success with
and I'm working with, you don't even ask me if
we should let him go? Do you know what I mean?
But but I seldom use wide receiver, even if you're friendly.
Come on, I just think Terry Terry went over the top.
As you know that. That's that's what I think happened.
I look, I'm fine with him him criticizing him. Um,
(04:53):
I this story is bizarre. Honestly, I would love Aaron
Rodgers just come out and address it. The Packers have
addressed it, so it is true that Aaron Rodgers wants out,
has wanted out for a while. Now they've told us weeks,
I don't know, was it weeks, is it months? And
they've all the management and the coach, Matt Lafleur, have
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gone to see him individually to talk him out of it,
and right now he's dug in. I don't get this
notion that I get it that he was upset about
the drafting of Jordan Love, but he came out and
had arguably the best season of his career, won MVP,
and it's gotta be more than that. Rob you said
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yesterday you think it's money, and maybe that's the case.
But to me, what I do agree with Brashall saying.
I said that I think Rogers is being whiny and
you got a chance. You got a team that could
win a Super Bowl. You got one of the best
offensive lines in the league, you got one of the
best receivers in the league, you got one of the
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best running backs in the league. If it's just about
Jordan's Love, I mean, you played last year with that
news hovering over you and being upset about it in
this guy in your quarterback room. So I do say
get over there and go for the Super Bowl with
Green Bay so do I get brashaur ciniment and why
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he's coming from that angle. I just think Bradshaw has
done this before. He called Mike Tomlin a cheerleader and
that he couldn't coach and he didn't even know what
he was doing or whatever. I mean, do you remember
those comments. I mean, just absolutely so. I've heard Bradshaw's
act and we've heard stuff like that before where he
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just goes off the handle. I guess he needed to
find something to criticize a guy who put play probably
his greatest season ever. He said, his footwork is awful,
but he threw forty eight touchdowns. He has the greatest
quarterback passer rating in the history of the NFL. But
he's terrible. Chris, his footwork, he never leans into a thrown.
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That's incredible because what he's been able to do with
such poor mechanics. That's the first guy I've ever heard
of said you know that they're not you know, he
could have said I'm nitpicking here because he's so good.
But you know what I mean, Chris to kind of
give me like the idea that he's nitpicking, but that's
what it wasn't So I don't know. I think there's
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more to the story. Excuse me, Charlie Castilly. He's a
smart man, was in the NFL, and he's right most
of the time when players are upset like that, it's
about money, Chris. I believe Charlie Castilly. I think that
that's the root of it. It can't be Jordan Love
of a year later. He was drafted last year. That
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doesn't even make sense that now I'm gonna take a
frustrations out. No, it doesn't make sense. This guy just
played great and he wants them to cash out. I
just won the MVP, right, I just played my butt off.
And this was another thing. Another thing Brashaw said, and
he addressed that in your comments when he talked about
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his footwork, which was a little bizarre. I don't know.
Next time we get a quarterback Gurguru on the show,
will ask him, um, but he seems to be doing
fine with his footwork. But he also said on the
Herd Rob today Bradshaw that uh, you know you signed
the contract, so play it out and contracts will be
made to be broken. It happens all the time. Team
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But but teams have have ripped up contracts and given
people more money because they've outplayed there. I'm just saying
it has been done. It's not like it's never been done.
That's my point. And if you want to make it
got done happy, you could you could do that that.
I mean, Ezekiel Elliott had a contract, Chris Right, he
had a contract. The Cowboys could have played hardball. They
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decided they needed him. He was a big part of
that team. What did they do. They made him rich,
gave him the richest running back contract ever. It hasn't
worked out. But did they do it? But they did
it though, right, Oh they didn't. That don't mean it's right. Yeah,
it looked. People break contracts all the time. Aaron Rod
Castilely also said Rogers has been paid forty eight million
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for the first two years of his contract per year,
I get the number. So I mean, I'm just saying
I think it has to do with money. I don't
believe it has to do it. And I don't believe
the Jordan love I just don't. I don't think well,
and then there's also the Brian Goudacus, the gem that
he wants him out. They gotta figure this thing out,
(09:38):
and um, I think you know, maybe a lot of
this is just bluff and rob you know, maybe it's
trying to get them to trade him. Uh, there's a
report today that Denver is going to go. That's going
to be the team that goes the hardest after Aaron Rodgers.
And you got a lot of people out there saying
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they wouldn't trade him. I would do everything I could
to keep him. They're built to win now. And so
obviously if you trade him, I don't care who you get,
because Jordan Love, you think is your quarterback of the future.
So I don't know that you're even getting, you know,
a quarterback if you trade him. And so I think
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they gotta try to win now, try to maximize their
time with Aaron Rodgers. And I think he too, you know,
at thirty eight years old. You know there's talk rod
could he retire, you know, who knows whatever, who knows
what's in his head. Maybe he can host Jeopardy. He's
thirty eight, Maybe he's ready to move on, he's getting married,
you know, maybe looking at another chapter in his life,
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or he can do without it if he feels like
it's a hassle to play for Green Bay. I do
think when you're playing at the level he is, and
we've seen it, Barry Sanders, Megatron, Jim Brown. A lot
of guys have walked away still in their prime. So
he wouldn't be the first. But I would think, man
(11:01):
maximize this time because if he plays three or four
more years rob at a high level, even then when
he retires, heck, when Tom Brady retires, he'll still be
a young man overall, you know what I mean, like
in life. So go ahead, you're still throwing the ball, great,
Aaron Rodgers, go ahead and and and play this thing
(11:23):
out and go for the super Bowl this year. Yeah,
I just until we hear from Aaron, I'm just going
to it. There's so many stories. People are looking to
make headlines every day, digging talking to people, you know.
Uh So I get it. That's what newspaper reporters do,
and reporters do, Chris, they dig, look for information. But
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I guess I just want to hear. Uh. I'm not.
I'm not denying that there's a conflict. That's that I'm not.
I mean, green Bay is actually that's not the issue.
It's what it's over is what I want to find out.
And you think he's gonna come out and be blunt
about it. No, I just I just think that we
have a better shot at understanding it because he could.
(12:04):
He could. He could. He might not say what it is,
but he could dismiss some of the stuff that's flying around.
You know, I've heard people do that, like that's not true.
Like I don't have any issue with the Jenny. He
will certainly be at right, you know what I mean,
like like stuff like that, Like he could say that.
He might not say I want to be paid, I
want more money and then he won't pay me. Not
people don't do that, Chris. You don't get in front
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of a mic and ask for more money. But you
might say, these stories have been so ridiculous out here
about the general manager and me and Jordan Love. He's
a great kid. He's going to be a quarterback. Jordan
Love is me. I was sitting there waiting for uh,
you know, uh Brett Farve, you know what I mean,
and my chance to play. So I understand it. So
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so he could he could address some of those things
and then leave it to the to the to to
at least eliminate some of the chatter, Chris, And then
you don't have to figure out you would say Okay,
so it's not about that, then it must be about money,
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the legendary Aaron Rodgers. What say you? All right, let's
(14:57):
kick it off with David in New York on the
Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hey, what's up, guys,
what's up? Good? Good? Um? Terry Bradshaw's right, Aaron Rodgers.
Week that Rob Blakes to say about Steph Curry in
the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is just not that guy. Look
at his playoff record, look at his last his championship
(15:19):
game record. He folded in the fourth quarter. Everyone knows it.
He didn't take blame. I was listening to an interview
with Shock on all the smoke. He just admitted it
was his fault that Orlando's lost. Michael Jordan has admitted
when when it was his fault Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers,
He's got too much drama. He's not focused on winning.
(15:42):
It's all about him. Like how this sports it's all
about competition. Since you're growing up, how you what break
do you have that they picked someone to take your position?
He's his whole. He doesn't put the team first. If
you just compare the mentality, the intangibles, the attitude of
Brady versus Aaron Rodgers, there's there's a hell of a difference. Yeah,
(16:06):
and Brady had help because they cheat, because the Patriots
have cheated. No, they have stop it, stop it. Tom
Brady won a Super Bowl with no touchdowns. Stop stop, no,
you hold on, No, you got your sit, No, you
got your saying good, thank you, thanks for calling and
got your say and got to say, is the first quarterback,
(16:28):
the only quarterback? So you got your shame. You're gonna
sit there and tell me about this and that and
and and now he has this and he has that.
Why don't you bring up that stuff? You never bring
that up that Maybe that helped him. No, that didn't
help him at all. That's why he got suspended for
four games because it didn't matter. Let's go to Kevin
(16:50):
in Virginia. You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
I thought it was a good call. I thought he
was terrible. He should call Hike and a bad man.
That shows off the air, call that show in New York.
I'm sorry. Go ahead, all right, go ahead of it. Now,
you guys are you're You're missing one big thing here, Roger.
(17:12):
Why did the Beatles break up because their priorities changed.
They met their wives and they wanted to start a family.
He wants to be near his wife, who has a
career in Hollywood. He sees his future beyond football in Hollywood.
So you think that's it. I think that's the root.
I think that's the root of it. I think everything
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else is a smoke screen. He wants to get to
the West coast so he can plan his future with
his new wife. I think you could just if you
really wanted to do that, you go and sit down.
You don't, you don't put on this whole thing in
the storyline. People have done that, they got a change
in life. I don't think that's the end of the
world to just say I want to move on, and
(17:54):
here's the reason why they didn't do anything. There's a
way to be able to do it. Hey, you got
your guy, Jordan loves sitting here. He's your future. I
just want to move on. It was great in Green Bay.
You could do that without these other stories. I'm not
buying that is strictly that not at his age where
he because if they wanted, they could get married a
(18:15):
year from now. Yeah, I mean, I hear. I mean
it's just pro sports. I mean, this is rob Park
for the course. She's Hollywood, she's an actress. She's gonna
be gone to a lot, right, It's not like they're
about to settle down in Maybury. They play games. They
played Chris and Green Bay. They play eight games in
green Bay. Come on, he can be the whole offseason. Yeah,
(18:38):
that's a little hard to buy. He's been this long
without being married, right, that was it. He could go
another year. I just I just think that that that
doesn't make any sense. Let's do Andre and Massachusetts. You're
in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. It was
going on, guys, good evening. H Terry Bradshaw says Aaron Rodgers,
(18:58):
he's weak and he should just to let him cry.
Terry Bradshaw. He wants to live in the twentieth century.
He wants to talk about how he had to walk
five miles through the rain and the snow with barefoot.
We know all this and that to school. Okay, We're
in the twenty first century, Terry Bradshaw. Okay. And it's
about player empowerment, and it's about these stars who people
show up, who people tune in to see, having a
(19:19):
seat at the table. That's the game that Aaron Rodgers
is playing right now, and he has every single right
to do it, just like le Bron doesn't basketball, just
like Tom Brady doesn't everybody else but everybody. Let me
stop you here, Andre, Lebron left to win. Aaron Rodgers
got as good a chance as he does of any
winning anywhere right there in Green Bay indeed Christian right point,
(19:40):
taking their offensive line, his great running backs, all the
rest of that stuff. But they disrespected him on fourth down,
and they're better dealing him. They're they got Jordan Love
waiting in the wings. He wants to win his way
to go to a team now. Rob g hopes it'll
be the Raiders. Obviously San Francisco will be the best
possible situation, maybe Miami. Aaron Rodgers wants to win his way,
and I he has every single right to do it
(20:01):
in this same age. Thanks for taking a call. I'm
straight heat it up. You got people riled up, robbed
the way you win at at the first call? What
was his name? Is what it is? I don't even know.
It's all him. He was good call him. Were appreciate
than I do. I thought he hit it on the head.
Aaron Rodgers only quarterbacks ever lose four straight check conference
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championship games. I mean he got some blame too. They
gotta get down. He's great, but you know he's a
part of it too. But interesting stuff. Two legends going out,
or at least one going out another one. So Terry
Bradshaw speaks his piece, carry Kittles will do so next
right here on the odd couple. But first, and I
(20:46):
do believe for the argument about the I think Aaron
Rodgers lives in Malibu or has a house on the
West coast already already, If he's already, I don't think
he has a beach front property in Green Bay. It's
a malibule. What's big? Fox Sports Radio has the best
sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our
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(21:09):
iHeart Radio app search f SR to listen live. And
we got our man h former NBA veteran Fox Sports
Radio NBA analyst Carrie Kittles joining the show. Carrie, what's
us up? What's going on for us? How you doing? Good? Yeah?
Good man, Great to have you on as always. Let's
get right to it. Um, well, we'll go outside of
(21:29):
Brooklyn for now. Russell Westbrook what he's doing is amazing. Um.
I first I'll ask you about Scotty Brooks comments about
him being the second best point guard of all time,
and then I assume you might answer that one quickly,
But just tell me about what you think Russell west
about what he's doing. I mean, fourth straight, fourth year
(21:52):
of averaging a triple double. Well, I mean he is,
I mean reinventing himself time and time again, I think.
And he's doing it with different teams, right, I mean,
how many guys have done that, moving around from different
organizations trying to figure out, Okay, how can I get
the most out of myself and my teammates try to
win games? And then produced at that level. It's it's
(22:15):
really remarkable. I think he's just an exceptional overall talent.
When he's out in the court, he offensively, he's just
such a threat because downhill, I mean, who's better than him? Downhill?
Throughout the NBA history is explosiveness and now he's making
jump shots, right, he's pulling up making shots. Oh man, Wow,
you know what a talented player he is. But second
(22:38):
best point guard? That's that? Come on? I know that's
just coach. He played for him in two places. He's
one of a lot of games. So when people start
rewriting history books and just on a prisoner of the
moment kind of thing, you lose some credibility, don't you. Yeah,
I think so. I think um to make those comments
(23:01):
like he's the second best point I know, I mean,
you're looking at numbers, right, I mean numbers can only
tell one part of the story. Yes, yes, he's a
double every year. I mean basically, and what he's done
is you know who's done it besides the big hole, right,
I mean yes, yes, so he's Yes, he's exceptional, but
I mean in that kind of point guards and that's no,
(23:22):
that's elite right there, Terry. I think he's similar to
Alan Iverson a little bit of different styles of play,
but Iverson was both of them, they're just incredible individual phenomes. Yes, um,
their number they did things that hardly anybody that's ever
played can do. Um. But I don't think either one
(23:44):
of them could lead a team to the championship because
they were so the way they played was so different,
you know, and it was it could be difficult to
play with. Um. Do you think that's fair? Yes, that's
that's definitely fair. A great, great comparison. He's a bigger
version of Alan iver you know, very similar in their tenacity. Um,
you know, every possession they play it like their last.
(24:07):
Every game they give you their all and um. But yeah,
as far as winning championships, that that those typically those
styles of players and how they play the game and
how they apposted the game mentally, Um, it's it doesn't
really you know, do well with winning basketball. You know,
it's it's just great individual play, great exceptional talent. You know,
(24:29):
they put so much pressure on you. But winning championships
takes a lot more than just that. When you talk
about winning a championship. Obviously, the Lakers are hoping to
get a back to back. A lot of things have
gone wrong there. They won last night. Anthony Davis said
that they're back, or the Lakers back or that. Is
that a little premature? It's premature. I mean, I want
(24:49):
to see them do it more than just one game.
They be a good team, uh Denver, but I want
to see them continue to do that. I think, Um,
you know, don right now, do you really want to
play the clip if you're the Lakers in the first
round of the playoffs, Yeah, but getting back, yeah, Lebron
just getting back now, you gotta go through Paul Georgie
and Kawaii. I don't want to do that if I'm
(25:11):
the Lakers. I'm not saying they couldn't get past the Clippers,
but I'm just thinking they gotta play. They gotta play
some good basketball. Donald stretch for me to be able
to say, you know, they're gonna come out the West.
That's that's that's a strong statement right now. The West.
I mean, we know it's been the superior conference for
a long time now, and probably it certainly is as
far as depth, maybe not as top heavy as the East.
(25:34):
But I gotta say this, Karrie and I got concerns
about the Lakers like everybody else, but I'm also looking
at the teams that are really good. But I'm not
scared Utah. I'm not scared of especially with Donovan Mitchell
still out. You know he'll come back, but he'll be
coming off the ankle injury. Phoenix. I'm not afraid of
(25:56):
um Denver there now with Jamal Murray, I know they
played great, but their second best player, Michael Porter Jr.
Who's a young stud but he's twenty two. I don't
know that he's gonna come right into a playoff series
and play well against some of these superstars. Um And
you mentioned maybe it's the Clippers, but I don't see
a world beater out there that really I'm like, oh,
(26:21):
there's no way the Lakers could beat them. What do
you think about that? You know, the rest is kind
of open when you look at it. I mean looking
at it right now. I mean you're right, like no
one's fearing Denver, no one's fearing Utah, right, So if
you no one is anybody fearing the Lakers and what
they've turned in? And you know what I mean, like
factor is not there for the life. I just think
(26:43):
being a former NBA player playing against Lebron in the playoffs,
you worried about that. I don't care who you are,
even though he hasn't won that all. I mean he's
only won times in seventeen tries. He's carried his team
to the finals time and time again. You are worried
about Lebron James and Anthony Davis, no question about it.
(27:04):
There's no question about it. Could be no, because he
figures out how to win. He's just he's a problem solver. Right,
you put the guys around them, he says, Okay, it's
my guys this year. All right, let's see what we
could do. Boom NBA Finals. Right. I mean, yes, he's
got turning around them, but he just figured it out. Yeah,
it just needs to me carried that the the too
(27:26):
many things need to go right That's why I'm out
on the Lakers. You know, with the team that they have,
I don't feel good about it. This isn't the team
that won the championship. Uh, you know, and and ad
a d and where Lebron is. I just there's something
that feels amiss. And I get what you're saying about
the history, and it's always easier to pick somebody, but
(27:47):
there's gonna come a time where where Lebron is gonna
get beat. And I think this could be that time
where they're more vulnerable and they just haven't played together,
they just aren't healthy enough, and they could lose. And
I agree that that's all. I just I just think
that that that if you're gonna if I'm gonna pick
a time for Lebron to lose and not get there
(28:08):
would be this year. Yes, you're right. I mean, you know,
basketball too, is timing right. You gotta have guys healthy.
We're seeing guys in and out protocols injuries throughout the
entire league, and so this year, I mean, the Lakers
have been They've had a lot of adversaries. So you're right,
this is the year if you're gonna knock Lebron off yes, Carrie,
(28:28):
how much? And you obviously played in the league and
not just from your own experience but other players, the
teammates or what have you. How much of this do
you think Lebron? You know, coming back from this injury
is taken a long time, Like as you get older
and he's thirty six in his eighteenth year, does it
take your body longer to recover from injuries? Like I'm
(28:51):
thinking six seven years ago he would have been through
this injury. I know there are certain injuries you just
they are what they are. You can't come back from.
But is age a factor in that? Age is a factor.
Medicine is changing year in and year out. Everything is changing,
and I think he's just they're just trying to err
(29:13):
on the side of car Can you buy him another week?
Can you buy him a few more days of rest?
You know, this game is so far as there's so
much stress. We talk about this every time I'm on
your show. I think the more rest he has, he's
already gonna be mentally sharp. He will figure that part out,
you know, one game and then he's there, right. So,
but yeah, I'm worried about his age. I'm worried about
(29:35):
the recovery. I'm worried, you know, you're having these kind
of injuries late in the season, regular season, it's concerning,
you know, same in the East with James Harden. It
is concerning, right right, No doubt it's gonna be interesting.
And we mentioned briefly carry about the Suns and nobody
buys into them. But but shouldn't it be I get it.
(29:57):
They hadn't made the playoffs since Moby Dick was a
guppy is been a long time. But uh, Chris Paul,
does that not make them more dangerous? Of why people
should believe? And I know he hadn't gotten to the
conference finals or he hadn't been able to get to
the finals, I should say, and be able to get
to the finals. But but doesn't he add some some
playoff you know, know how, an experience that could elevate
(30:21):
those other young guys where I've been there, Yeah, no
question about that. I think Chris Paul, you know, he's
he's been playing really well as of late um and
he's got surrounding talent around him. I think, you know, Booker,
this is this is probably his year to really show
out in the playoffs. They did it in the bubble
when undefeated. Um, you know, they have some really good
(30:42):
talent and um, you know Bridges and Eyton. So I
think if you're in the West you're concerned about You're
concerned about Phoenix for sure. I think you saw the
William moved the ball, and how they play together as
a unit is um, you know that the biggest asset.
But I definitely think these is gonna cost them somewhere
in the playoffs. I really do there. They are a
(31:04):
Western Conference playoff team in my opinion, Carrie. I know,
I know you don't like to give this team props,
but the New York Knicks are actually balling all right.
They're the fourth seed in the East and people talk about,
you know, they've won twelve or thirteen I believe, But
if you go back thirty nine games their record over
(31:26):
that stretch, would they want about sixty six percent of
those games, that would be the second best record. If
you stretched that over eighty two games, that'd be the
second best record in the Eastern Conference right now. So
they're playing really good basketball. I want to ask you this,
how much of a threat are they to upset one
(31:47):
of the three top teams in the East Philadelphia, Brooklyn
or Milwaukee. No, they're legit threat. Threat. I think because
of how they guard right and obviously the merchants of
Randall this year has been a supprise to all of us.
We didn't see us coming. I mean, hey, some players
(32:08):
take time to develop and have that breakthrough. You know
what you want Tips credit. You gotta give Tips credit.
This is coaching getting the most out of his player
and the and the any committed in the off season.
Like they didn't make it in the bubble. He committed
in the off season, got himself into great shape. Yes,
but I mean Tips and his staff. I mean while
(32:30):
so as a unit, they played so hard together Luca
Rows and what he was doing, So you are I'm
turning it in the East. I agree with you the
Knick star for what they are because they're gonna grind
it out, They're gonna play as more small basketball as
they can, and today's style of player, they're gonna try to,
you know, junk it up and and and they've been
(32:50):
able to play well offensively. Didn't get it done. So
they are definitely a threat. And Randall's only twenty six
years old. I mean think about like he's been in
the league like he's thirty six, like I've been around forever.
That's what I'm shocked. He's that young. Yeah, it's gonna
be interesting to see where his career goes. But I
agree Tips. This is kind of what Tips did with
(33:12):
Derek Rose, and um, you know Randall's in that role now.
All right, carry great stuff as always, Fether, We appreciate
the knowledge. All right, my man. Okay, morey. I Couple
coming your way. Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Radio has
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(33:32):
within the iHeart Radio app. Search f SR to listen live.
It is the I Couple. Chris Bruce are Rob Parker
coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
We're gonna switch to Major League Baseball for a moment. Rob.
We were talking yesterday about Alex Rodriguez his comment that
(33:53):
if he was Francisco Blanduers hitting coach, he would or
he would fire Francisco Lindor's hitting coach if Lindor hit
over twenty five home runs. Little did we know it
ain't had nothing to do with Lindor hitting home runs.
But Chili Davis is out of a job. He's gone,
(34:14):
and his assistant and take him with you. That's that's
the last thing Steve Cohen said, or whoever fired him
and thank him with you. That's I mean, is this?
I mean, look, they can't hit rob they got awesome pitching. No,
they're struggling. There's no doubt. And we know how this
(34:35):
game works, Chris. If you're not a part of the solution,
you're part of the problem. And if and when when
when When pitching staffs do well, pitching coaches get raises,
they get all kinds of stuff and accolades, I get it.
And when you're the hitting coaching, guys on hitting. But
I'm telling you this firing is over, lindor not. I'm
(34:56):
not saying that the Mets struggle. Whole team. Yeah, they're
the whole team. Run I'm Chris, I get that. But Lindore,
who they paid three hundred and forty one million dollars
all guaranteed, who's in an old for twenty three drought,
who looked terrible when I watched the one sixty three. Dude,
I watched him on Sunday Night baseball take awful swings.
(35:17):
That's what a rod was talking about because they were
all like looping swings, like you're trying to pit the
ball out the park instead of hitting the ball on
the ground going the other way. I talked about it yesterday.
If he's going the other way where the pitches swinging
the hitting ball to left field center field, Chris, you'd
feel better about his approach at the plate. That's what
(35:38):
a Rod was talking about his approach. So let me
ask you this, and look, you may not know the answer,
but you can certainly theorize about it. We've seen you
and I we've both been in New York covering, you know,
for two decades, essentially covering sports in New York, and
you've seen guys come here and not live up to
(36:01):
the billing, whether it's the cliche of you know, the
big apple and the pressure and all of that. But
it's happened, Rob. And I know it's early, but you're
talking about a four time All Star. You're talking about
a guy that's you know, typically thirty plus home runs
and my god, it's a top ten MVP candidate you
(36:24):
know most years. Is what do you think is going on?
I mean, it could just be a slump and everybody
goes through slumps in baseball. But are you really concerned
that this dude might not be cut out for the
bright lights of New York City. Yeah? I know, if
he was playing for the Yankees, maybe, Chris, maybe, but
(36:46):
the Mets, or I get the New York thing, but
the Mets don't have the same expectation. I've seen guys
will go putting on the pinstripes. Do you know what
I mean? I just think Lindor, I don't know if
he's psyched himself out mentally. You know, you get you finally,
you know, you wait for that big payday to come right,
and now you feel like, I gotta I gotta play
(37:07):
now form right, live up to it. Chris. They gave
me three hundred and forty one million dollars. I'm gonna
get every dime over the next twelve years, and now
I gotta be that guy I was. I was cool
in Cleveland playing for you know, good money, Chris, not
great money, right, he was just playing. He was a
(37:28):
fun loving kid. And it must know anonymity compared to this, Yes, yeah,
it's I mean, look, it's it's certainly too early to
write him off. It's twenty years. You just brought up
the point, didn't you just bring up the Yankees how
they were dead two weeks ago exactly? People are talking
about they're horrible, right, and so you gotta let this
thing play out. But um, it's concerning and he's not
(37:54):
getting it done. And Rob, look a Chili Davis. I
remember him as a player. But if they're not producing,
and one thing this new ownership is shown, he's trying, Rob,
We'll see what happens. He's trying to get a good
product out there and get a World Series for New
(38:15):
York Mets. And so I think he was like, look
before this season and they're still near five hundred, so
the season is far from lost. But I think he's like,
before this thing goes too far and we're too far gone,
let me see if I can write the ship. No,
you have to. I get that. And I think that
(38:36):
you know, like you you gotta give somebody's blood, you know,
like we see it all the time. Chris uh the
defensive coordinate at Green Bay, Right, wasn't that didn't get
if he got fired right? Right? Because they gave up
that bad down in the playoff game, Right, this is
somebody we're not We're not going to just accept it.
This this shouldn't have happened, And so somebody's gonna be blamed.
(38:59):
And if you're not gonna get rid of the head
coach or the or the manager, then somebody on his
staff is gonna pay the price to left. Fans know,
we know it ain't going, it ain't working, and we're
holding people accountable, and players know they're being held accountable.
Do you know what I mean? Like like if you're
not gonna just be sacheting around here making big money
(39:19):
and not producing, and if you don't, we'll get we'll
move on from you too. Not that they're going anywhere
from Lindor, but you know what I mean. It's perception,
the reports tour that Chile, you know, maybe being a
former player that he wasn't and I don't know right
when you and I, you know, our stance on analytics
is well known, but that yeah, that he's yeah, he's
(39:41):
not the analytic guy. He's not giving the individual instruction.
He's not you know, putting the technology in front of
these guys, and that you know that other guys are
giving them and so you know, that's that's part of
what is being talked about. So we'll see. I mean,
I think if they do, you have a turn around.
I mean, you got guys, you know, Peter, Lionzo, Lindor like,
(40:04):
they should be able to put some runs up on
the board. And if they do, rob they could be
they could be dangerous because their pitching is great. The
pitching is outstanding. But yeah, so even though the Guam
now is hurt, right, yeah, yeah, and that's obviously that's terrible.
All right, an hour left odd couple
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