January 2, 2020 • 33 mins
It's The Best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob get into a heated debate about how much pressure Aaron Rodgers is under to win a Super Bowl this season, and discuss whether prospective head coaches should have more faith in Browns owner Jimmy Haslam or Cowboys owner Jerry Jones moving forward. Plus, acclaimed actor Laz Alonso stops by our Celebrity Corner to discuss how hard it's been living as a Redskins fan, the Lakers vs. the Clippers, the athlete he'd most like to portray in a movie, and much more!
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s R. You're listening to the Best of The Odd
Couple with Chris Brusshard and Rod Harker. God I know
for the Odd Couple Celebrity Corners this week's guest on
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Celebrity Corner. I mean, the resume is stacked. Stop the
yard jump in the broom. He was in Avatar, which
obviously is an historic movie. The Fast and the Furious series,
I mean, which one number nineteen, A lot of them,
A lot of them, all right, but here we're we're
excited to have him more. And he also before he
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got into acting, Rob he worked on Wall Street, so
he knows acting, he knows finance. I don't know if
he knows sports though, because he's a long time Redskins fan.
I would just get another team. But let's welcome in
lives allons or what's up, brother, what's happening? What's up?
What's up? What's up? We're always going on. We're doing
great to have you on. Man. Hey, look, before we
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start off, I gotta address two things. One to Rob.
I was in Fast and Furious for the movie that
saved the franchise, all right, all right, when Vin Diesel
came back, and then the Chris obviously don't know sports
because I'm a Redskins fan, miserable for the last twenty
years of my life. You grew up in DCI soon
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That's the only reason I grew up. When the Redskins
were kicking button taking names. Yeah, Charles Man, that's the
manly Joe Tideman, John Riggins, like the glory is you know,
it's unbelievable when you see him. Yeah, how bad it is?
And the empty seeds and there used to be a
waiting list and the Hogs and all that other stuff.
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I mean, it was happening. And how hard is it
to root for your team and see what's going on. Well,
I'm gonna tell you, man, for the first time in
my entire life, this season, I took a different approach.
I rooted against my team. Wow, when you have no
idea how hard it was to root against my team.
But I knew that the only way Dan Snyder was
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gonna make any significant changes is if the fan base
was so loud and fire Bruce Allen that hashtag. If
you look at my Twitter feed, it's all fired Bruce
Allen every single week of this season. And I got
I made a lot of enemies from our own fan
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base who were mad at me, calling me a fair
weather fan, telling me I'm not a real fan, right,
But I felt like it was my responsibility to speak
up for the players because we've had amazing players played
for that squad in the last ten years. That would
have been super Bowl. They would they would have rings,
Santana Moss, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that were
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true talent, but they wasted their best years of their
life playing for a team who's whose management did not
share the same winning attitude that the players on the field. Well,
you hated Bruce Allen, you got you got it done.
Now let me ask you, how do you feel. I'm
gonna ask you about two people. Ron Rivera obviously the
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new head coach, and Dwayne Haskins, the quarterback in the future.
How do you like both of them or dislike so
I'd like to start off with Dwayne Haskins. That's another
point of contention that I argue with Redskins fans about
who try to criticize the young man who got thrown
in in the middle of the season, never took a
rep with the first team, got thrown in in the
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middle of the game, was never developed by Jake Ruden.
This kid was basically put to the side. And I
saw what he did the RG three. If you don't
hit in his system exactly the way a square peg
would sit in a square system that can't score in
the red zone. By the way, because Alex Smith, Alex
Smith couldn't score in the red zone, and Jake Gruden's
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offense neither could Kirk Cousins. Look at how he balled
out this season. So it's a quarterbacks go to die
under Jake Bruden's offensive schemes. Okay, And to put this kid,
he didn't design a playbook to ease him into the league.
Take his strength and let's amplify his strength. So I
already knew I didn't want him to play. Everybody was like,
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let's put it the kid in, let's put hasks, let's
put it. I didn't want him to play because A
I knew Gruden was on his way out, and B
I didn't want him to ruin his confidence by throwing
him in an offense that's not designed to bring out
the best in the place. And it's gotta be rough
because Washington has become the DC has become the championship
city in sports America. Right then, that Shows won the
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World Series. Uh, the Capitols won their first Stanley Cup,
right and the w NBA you got the Wizards and
the Redskins are the only problem. But it's been good
times in DC, hasn't it? Sports wid Dan Snyder. Dan
Snyder needed to have egg on his face. And it
took a three and thirteen season and see all the
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other teams in DC now become the face of DC
for him to realize that he had to make a
bigger change than what he's been doing. Up until now.
The fans didn't matter, and this season, finally the fans matter. Now.
You live out you live out here in LA now
and your big basketball fan. The big question in town
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is Lakers or Clippers? Who you riding with? Who's the
better team? I thought it was Maryann or Ginger. Now
is that not the big question. I'm sorry, Robson, you
can have it. Rob I'm saying my name has been it.
I'm not in it. I got you. But you know what, man,
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I really really love Kauai. I love PG. I love
the energy that they brought to this city. I love
that they came in doc rivers. You know, everybody's an underdog,
but they're humble. There's no sense of entitlement in that team.
It's just hard work, their workhorses. Now I love Lebron
and a D two. Don't get it twisted. I'm not
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from this city, so I don't have an emotional connection
to eat the team. I just love LA basketball. You know.
I love what it stands for in the league. I
love what Magic Johnson stood for. You know, Kareem Shock,
you know these are all Lakers. But for the first time,
I think ever, we get we get to witness a
possible changing of the guard. As to who claims LA Basketball. However, yeah,
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that is. How about the big topic in the NBA
two this year is the load management. You know this.
You you make movies, people gotta go pay to see it.
You know, there's paying customers. And in the NBA you know,
some guys think, well, I need to take some time
off and not play back to back as a fan.
And the guy who's paid money to go to games,
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where are you on that load management? Do you understand
it or does it bother you? Because I have a
problem with it. If you had asked me this question
ten years ago, i'd have had a problem with it.
But once you hit forty you understand load management. They
ain't forty years taking load management the first week of
the season. But here's the thing. Here's the thing, all right,
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So in my business, right you'll turn on like one
of my shows and you'll see me do some crazy stuff.
Some of that stuff. I may have done some of
that stuff. There's a stunt man that does it. They
look good. The only reason that you stunt man is
because you got to load manage your start. You can't
afford him getting hurt doing a stunt. Now, you gotta
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shut the production down down for two or three months
and we can get back on it. That's a really
lon LOLd manage. That's not a bad I think that's
apples in orangees. I get where you're going though, but
we'll we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
Let let me ask you this a two part question.
One were you an athlete growing up? What sports did
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you play? And two? Uh, do you do you if
you could play any athlete like in a movie? Do
you do you desire to do like a sports movie?
And who? What athlete would you want to portray? So?
I grew up in boxing and takuando back when. Yeah,
see I was an only child, so my mom she
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put me in sports that I could defend myself. Uh
because you know, she said, you don't got an older
brother to call, but Dan's get rough and DC at
the time was the murder capital of the US. Oh yeah,
I was like, So I'm not raising a boy that's
gonna be getting Chase home from school every day. You
got to be able to defend your coat that I
spent money buying and those boots that you're wearing, and
you know that. And if she bought you some Jordan,
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Hey they I saw many guys in New York growing
up go home with when socks. You know, I tell
you something, man, I got I got my big wheel
taken one time and she stopped me at the door,
turned me around and told me go get your big
wheel because he didn't steal it from you. He stole
it from me. I paid for it. Did you go
get that changed? That changed my entire way of looking
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at it. I was like, this guy stole my mother's
big deal, right and he and he paid for it?
All right, all right? But anyway, so yeah, So I
grew up in combat sports man and I still do
them to this day. I still box, I still practice
martial arts. I've added some jiu jitsu into the mix.
Um that's my thing. But uh, as far as I
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would think, you know, I almost did. At the time.
There was a production company out here. They wanted me
to play um uh, the baseball player from Puerto Rico.
What's the brother's name name? Been thrown around in the
mix for years to do that film, and for one
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reason or another, it never came to pass. But that
was something that I was passionate about because he was
such a powerful humanitarian, right was bigger than just sport.
He was. Wasn't that like New Year's Eve was going
to take stuff to help people, were taking stuff, supplies
to help people that I think they were some kind
of natural disaster and the plane win down. Yeah, tragic
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tragic story. Well, Laza Linzo, excellent job, brother. We had
a lot of fun talking with you. And you in LA.
We invite guys to come in spend an hour with
us in the studio. Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll do that.
We'll rob you. I'll come in and oh and I
forgot to tell you Ron Rivera. I'm very excited about him.
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He's going to change the culture in DC sports. I am.
I am predicting that this year in the NFC, the
entire NFC East is gonna make up for what we've
been doing for the last few seasons because we've been
so y'all making the playoffs go there. All right, I
just want to make sure we need an old line,
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you know, we need. We changed into a four three
defense after being a three four for over ten years,
so there's gonna be some growing pain, but I do
see us being more competitive than we've been in a
very long time. All Right. This is the great actor
Lisa Linzo. He's currently starring in The Boys on Amazon Prime,
and I'm gonna want to show on Amazon there it
is The Boys. You gotta check it out Amazon Prime
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and LA's fine us or a Spectrum, so you got
a lot of stuff in the words, brother, and we'll
be watching and again we will get you in the
studio and have you in us in with the Odd Couple. Man.
We appreciate the time. Thank you, gentlemen, appreciate being here.
Brother piece. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Chris Brussard and Rob Parker week days
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at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Jimmy Haslum How many
years of ownership? Rob G? That out? Twelve years? I
think of ownership with Jimmy Haslm. Rob G's not listening?
Look at him, rob G, rob G? What are you
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listening to? Check on Jimmy Haslm's ownership? Turn off? Turn
off that podcast. We just selected a new walk up
song for Greg Jenny better than Diana Loss anything but
muscles WI like it doesn't It's not a masculine song,
can I say? I don't know if you can say
that in twenty twenty, but that's why it's so perfect.
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But you got a better one, all right? Um? But
rob Gi has ms owned the Browns who ten years,
twelve years, so he's gone through six different coaches, and
he's gone through several front general managers. He's seven years,
he's been the owner seven years and five coaches, five
gms because he've been the owner for seven years. Yes,
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and he's fired five coaches and five general managers. I mean,
come on, I don't care if every coach and general
manager you hire is terrible. You gotta stick with somebody
at some point. You can't just expect dudes to turn
it around in one year or two years. Only coach
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he gave more than two years was Hugh Jackson and
he got two and a half. So their ownership, that's
a big problem. And then the other team, of course
robbed the Dallas Cowboys. Now they haven't been as bad
as the Browns, but the context too with Dallas Cowboys,
I'm sorry, I don't expect you. You've won what five
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Super Bowls, second most all times, and they had a
dynasty when they won three out of four back when
Jimmy Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson first took over. And
since then, since they won that third Super Bowl and
was that ninety six, they've now in the last twenty
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five years, Chris have won four playoff games, have never
been back to the NFC Championship game. Forget about getting
in there and having a chance to win and losing.
They haven't even been to the NFC Championship game in
twenty five years. They've been horrible. And again context, I
don't judge the Dallas Cowboys by the same standard I
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judged the Cleveland Browns by I'm sorry, you're the Dallas Cowboys.
He's like the Lakers. I don't judge the Lakers. Six
years out of the playoffs would be nothing for some franchise, right,
all right, So so both of those franchise had been
horrible and Jerry Jones. Look, I don't know. I mean now,
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I don't think Jason Garrett's gonna remain head coach. No,
I still don't. They're gonna there today their third meeting.
I mean now, the reports in the speculation is that
he's going to have another job in the Francise, and
I talked about that. I think they will come out
and announced he's being reassigned, right or promoted to the
front officers. I'm telling you, Chris, because he has such
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a Jerry has such an affinity for Jason Garrett doesn't
want to embarrass him. Their families are intertwined. His brother
works for the organization. This all that. What do we
keep saying? We use the term all the time, Chris,
Jerry runs it like a mom and pop stores is
the greatest and he doesn't want but he doesn't want
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to let Oh my, I can't do this to Jason.
He's in the family, the grown man. Yes, I didn't
hire it as a as a pro football coach. You
know what happens. You get fired sometimes. Most people get fired.
Ballotcheck got fired exactly. Everybody gets fired at some point.
I mean, come on, so and here my thing, Rob.
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I look, I don't know if you can have Jason
Garrett in football operations. I just think it's gonna create
more of the madness that you've had these last ten years.
With Jerry being the guy you can go to. Now,
it seems like a lot of players like Jason Garrett, right,
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whoever the new head coach now, not only may I
might go to Jerry, but I also might go to Jason.
You know, man, we used to do it. It was
better the way you did it. You know, your offense
was better than this. We need to get back to that.
I mean, that's you're gonna have all types of stuff.
Now you could have, you could have a situation. That's
why normally you need to break ye that he's gonna
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be a marketer or advertising website. You know that's gonna
write a column. Jason Garrett's column is gonna be on
Dallas Cowboys dot com. I can't wait to read his
first column. But you know, like you gotta get him
on where you couldn't even do a college because he'd
be criticizing the team. You gotta get him away from
football where he's not there all the time. The connections too.
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Closure wasn't Edward A kind of had a little report
about that, right, but that he might he might be said,
And I get it because it only it makes sense
if you look at I just don't think it's a
smart move. No, I agree. But here's what I'm gonna
do about the haslums, Chris, I hear what they've done
in seven years, right? Seven? That horrible. That's a lot, right,
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But they're not a lot. That's horrid. But they also
went through a winless season. They had one win, so
they had some bad stuff going on. But I'll tell
you what he did with John Dorsey. I totally one agreed,
and I give him credit not to stay the course
when that guy through a monkey wrench in what you
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had put together and hired an inexperienced Freddie Kitchen should
have never got that job. You said it, I know it,
you know it. Everybody knows that Chris John Dorsey tried
to force Freddie Kitchens on all these veteran coaches who
wouldn't even come for the interview, right you right or wrong?
Give me that right. I agree with you that he
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made a mistake that was ampiring Freddy k Yes, that
was a big mistake. Did it have to be fatal? Yes,
this is a guy that has a winning pedigree. Again,
this is a guy that lets look, there was a
reason that people thought the Browns would be nice this year.
There was a reason I picked him to make the
playoffs this year. Well, you made a mistake because they
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had a lot of talent and who put that talent together.
That's only one but it's on paper. But I'm saying
in Kansas City they were two and fourteen before he
got there. He turned them around. Now they're one of
the top franchise. I'm just saying you all I'm saying
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is the dude has a track record but of winning.
And that's more I can than I can say for
most of the people in that organization. Mistake. I just
don't know that. And I'm not gonna say defend him
to high Heaven, but I'm just saying, now you here's
what they're gonna do. Rob. They're gonna hire the head
coach and let him have a saying pick in the
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gym that's backwards. And I get it, Mike m you
can bring in certain guys that have that type of
cashe Mike McCarthy. I think he gotta hire Mike McCarthy
because I need an adult in that organization and that
I need an older man who's got some respect, and
he and Mike McCarthy would have it because he's already
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won a championship. And see this is I think what
the Haslems are looking at Chris is that he's so
he's so messed up the whole situation in not realizing
with the personalities he was putting together, that you couldn't
have a coach that the guys didn't respect. Do you
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know what I mean? Like, how did John Dortsey really
think this was gonna work. And he also a lot
of people looked at it and said he wound up
giving Baker Mayfield too much credit and allowing him to
pick the coach because he had a relationship with Freddy Kitchens.
Why are you doing that with Aca Mayfield, a second
year guy, and you know what happened to him this year?
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He took two steps backwards. I agree, right, that's where
John Dorsey made a mistake. It's a fatal mistake. This
team was not supposed to go backwards to six and ten, Chris.
They were seven eight in one last year. They added olbj,
they added all these other pieces right, and they went backwards.
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They were worse than they were. That's why I think
John Dorsey had to pay for it with his gig. Well, look,
if you bring in the right hand coach and you
get the right structure in front office in place, I'll
give you that. But I just think they're going about
this thing backwards. Now, now you're gonna hire it better again,
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it better be Mike McCarthy, because what if you if
you hire a young guy, even in Urban Meyer and
there is a report that they're interested in Urban Meyer
Brown Bruce Fellman and then Jimmy Haslm came out and said,
right now, they're focused on guys in the NFL, so
he kind of shot it down at least for the
time being. And I really like urban Meyer. I think
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if the Cowboys hired him that that would be a
good hire. But Jones my only question. I agree that
Jerry would have to give him the reins, which I
don't think he would do, and that's the problem. But
I'm kind of assuming if they do hire him that
Urban will have told them and made sure. Look, I'm
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gonna be able to run things. But getting back to
the brown you know what I would have told Jerry, Joey,
You've been doing it for twenty five years. Man, let me.
I'm a football guy. I'm gonna do right by you.
You wanted him win another championship. Let me do this,
I agree, let me do this. I agree. But as
far as the Browns, here's my only question about urban Meyer.
And obviously from Ohio and you know Ohio State bowling
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green great success at these places, but he hasn't coached
in the NFL. It's another guy that has unproven. That's
what they've been doing doesn't always translate because Nick Saban
failed in a lot of guys, right, so Steve Steve
Smurria failed. Yep, yep, that's my only question. I if
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I'm the Brows and you never know for sure, but
I want a guy that's proven. If if they hired
Mike McCarthy and it doesn't work, it's hard to kill
him for that. No, that's the right higher right, It
just it just didn't work out. But I agree with that.
That would be one where you would look and go
pedigree uh walks into the locker room. He automatically has respects.
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My championship break nothing. Don't tell me. I work with
Aaron Rodger. We went on the road and want a
super Bowl. We beat Pittsburgh, you know what I mean. Yep,
And they have to listen. I'm gonna try. You want
to get a super Bowl? You're trying to get there.
Let me lead you. Yep. I'm trying to tell you.
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I've been there the mountain top. I've worked with Aaron
Rodgers Baker. Listen, right, sit, shut up and listen. Look
like he's like a dad. I'm just saying like you
need that's what raised with authority, and I think that's good. Yeah.
A backhand, the front hand a belt. But that's what
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I think they need to clear. Let me ask you this, Rob,
and we'll throw it out to our callers. Jerry Jones,
we talked about two franchises where the ownership is kind
of screwing things up. Who you got more faith in,
Jerry Jones or or Hassling. I'm serious. Jerry has has
a twenty five year track record that he will not
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give up the reins. He continues to run it like
it's his home, personal plaything, and I just don't see
him like this late in the game, Chris, He's already
in the Hall of Fame, right, he still wants to
do it his way. He will not go but I
know what he wants another one. But he got it,
ain't one the way he got the three, yes, right,
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because he got three like that, he wants his own look.
I think Jerry Jones is a better owner than Jimmy HASLM.
But I agree with you in this immediate context because
he's not as hands on as Jones, because he doesn't
have his own radio spot every week, because he's not
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holding court for thirty minutes after every game, right even
before the coach talk, right, because of those things. Yeah,
I'm going with Jimmy Haslm. Fox Sports Radio has the
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You know I love you, but you have a take
that I just think it is ridiculous. I think it's
self serving. I think it's to support your narrative that
you be I don't have an a year long with
the Green Bay Packers and for this is the take.
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For you to sit here and say that of all
the quarterbacks in the playoffs, Aaron Rodgers has the least
amount of pressure on him, that is ludicrous. I can't
believe you would even fix your mouth to say that.
It makes it's hard to believe you believe that. It
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makes perfect sense when you look at this team and
what they've done this year, how balanced this team is.
They were three and old when he didn't throw a
touchdown this year, which was impossible in years gone by.
They were years ago. They were aiden one against good teams.
They won other ways. This is not just about Aaron Rodgers. Finally,
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it's about Aaron Jones. It's about the Smiths on Defense Bowl.
That's fine. He had nineteen touchdowns and he can score running.
All I'm telling him about to be Ezekiel Elliott. It
ain't about all I'm saying. They won all year. They
were thirteen and three with Aaron Rodgers having them good
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sea good season, saying good season. You know what, he
has had a good season. He was a Pro Bowler,
he had he had a good season. And all I'm
saying is that there are other guys who have way
more pressure, but Aaron Rodgers I believe he has. He
doesn't have any pressure. Okay, this is about going out
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and playing. Everybody's written him off. Bucky Brooks has told
you he's broken down and no good. Aaron Rodgers had
three games each year, so nobody's gonna be expecting anything
from Aaron Rodgers this year. We'll just wait and see
for the playoffs. He has no pressure. He can go
out there. He ain't got to score forty points, he
don't have to throw five touchdowns. They've been winning all
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year without that. For the first time, he could just
go out and play football without knowing that without you,
there's no way they can win. And that's what he
always went into every year and every postseason. Okay, if
you're saying that they have a fairly balanced team, that's
what I'm And now he's got other you know, the
defense can him right? Okay, that's one thing. No, I
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don't agree. But if you're if you're saying that should
they lose first or saying what I'm saying, okay that nobody,
there's not gonna be any problem. Oh the Packers, they
were thirteen and three, they lost their first playoff game.
It's okay, and mean when you say no, because the
pressure comes from the media, the fans, the perception. No,
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but that's what I'm saying. I agree with you that
they got a balance squad. This doesn't for him right
for every game he's gonna have to be air and Rogers.
I'm not saying. I'm not saying that he can go
and not have a touchdown and they win a playoff game.
All I'm saying is this is not the error Rogers
team that has given up forty or more points four
or five times in a postseason and Aaron has to
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throw a some hail Mary touchdown in order to tie
the game or win the game at the end because
the defense gave it up. This is a different, well
balanced team, and I'm telling you he doesn't go in
with that burden of knowing if I don't have a
record setting day, we're not winning a playoff. This tom Brady,
You've said that all year, Right, he even won a
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super Bowl last year without throwing the touchdown. No, Tom
Brady has doesn't have to be spectacular. Oh he has
to be better than he has been because as he
don't have Rogers, if they're gonna win a super Bowl.
I told he's gonna have to give us one of
those vintage airs, at least one we saw the last
time we saw Jim Brady Roppolo have to do it
all for the forty nine ers. No, the argument is this,
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Ry Parker, if if if Patrick Mahomes doesn't get to
the super Bowl, nobody's gonna rip him. Yes they will.
He's in this the second year as a starter. That's
all right, eight years a start the Super Bowl and
Dann Marino is praised. Dan Moreno was one of the
ten quarterbacks of all time because of that second year. Well,
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he didn't win anything, didn't we bet that? You said
he was gonna have forty or more touchdowns he finished
with twenty year. He got hurt. That's the reason why. Yeah,
that's the reason why he got her. You're sure he
would have got Why are you leaving the discussion because
you know I'm right? No, because I want to make
a point against you. Hold on. There's no pressure on Patrick,
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There's no pressure on Lamar down. Is anybody gonna kill
Ryan Tannehill if they lose the first game? No? Yes,
and get the down Patriots team don't Most people do
not expect them to beat the Patriots? Whynot? I heard
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the Patriots and it's in Foxborough and they haven't lost
the home playoff game in years. All I'm saying is
this notion that there's no pressure or a round what
he said, no pressure? That the question was that the question?
That's what I was told. Did you said he has
the least amount of press least? That doesn't mean no? Okay, lead,
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there's more pressure. If Aaron Rodgers doesn't get to the
super Bowl, he will get criticized more than if Deshaun Watson.
And if and if and if Lamar Jackson fizzles and
can't win. Right said, they fall behind and they can't
run the football, and they gotta throw and he can't
do it. Everybody in their uncle will point and say, see,
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I told you a running quarterback can't winning the playoffs
or can't get to the super Bowl. He has more
pressure because they had an unbelievable season and people expect
this to continue the postseason. It doesn't matter, it does,
it doesn't. Nobody expected Lebron's and Jamia James didn't make
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the playoffs his second year, and no it's not. I
mean Dak Prescott was getting praised for just winning a
few games and getting Dallas to the playoffs, even though
they didn't get to a super Bowl. I think Jacksons
wins is he ever won, it didn't have the same thing.
It's the same thing. He doesn't have the same pressure
because the team is beat up and battered and if
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they were somehow somewhere able to win the playoff game,
he would be on another playfows, which doesn't have Everybody
knows he's he's delayed depleted pressure. Yea, I think I
wouldn't say. I wouldn't put him in the category like
I said myhomes Watson. He stayed healthy old year, Chris.
They won their last four games to get in. People
have already said, Carson Winn showed us something this year.
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Would you agree with that? Yes, but he showed us
some of them is the standard. He's following Nick Foles,
who won a Super Bowl in Philadelphia. You know Philadelphia,
they're not rational. You know that they're not gonna say, oh,
Carson showed us something. He he beat the Cowboys and
the Giants at the end of the season, and the Redskins,
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and you know these weak sisters that they played against.
I know he did it with beat up you know,
a beat up roster, and I'll give you, I'll give
you that. It's not the most pressure in the world
on him. I'm just saying the seat here and act
like if the Green Bay Packers lose their first or
second what I said, say anything about a People already
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talking about Aaron Rodgers wondering where's the old Aaron Rodgers?
Why did he only have three or four games of
three hundred or more yards? Why do you have so
many games with zero or one touchdown? And Rogers carry
him if they lose in the playoffs. You don't think
people are gonna start saying that. I'm talking about going
into the playoffs. He doesn't have to feel like I
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got us put up forty points in five touchdowns, okay,
to give my team a chance to win that. But
it's not news that it is new. This is new
for him. This is my point. That's why County it
done and they had to do all. It was always
about him. You know. That'll give you that he don't
have to do that this year and they can still win.
They were three, but he didn't throw a touchdown. It's
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just different. For Aaron Rod Tran Francisco can do the
same thing. Garoppolo wasn't carrying them all the time. I'm
just saying there's okay. So you're not saying that he
won't be criticized, willized, Okay, that's where That's what pressure is.
That's what pressure is.
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Couple with Chris Brusshard and Rod Harker. God I know
for the Odd Couple Celebrity Corners this week's guest on
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Celebrity Corner. I mean, the resume is stacked. Stop the
yard jump in the broom. He was in Avatar, which
obviously is an historic movie. The Fast and the Furious series,
I mean, which one number nineteen, A lot of them,
A lot of them, all right, but here we're we're
excited to have him more. And he also before he
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got into acting, Rob he worked on Wall Street, so
he knows acting, he knows finance. I don't know if
he knows sports though, because he's a long time Redskins fan.
I would just get another team. But let's welcome in
lives allons or what's up, brother, what's happening? What's up?
What's up? What's up? We're always going on. We're doing
great to have you on. Man. Hey, look, before we
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start off, I gotta address two things. One to Rob.
I was in Fast and Furious for the movie that
saved the franchise, all right, all right, when Vin Diesel
came back, and then the Chris obviously don't know sports
because I'm a Redskins fan, miserable for the last twenty
years of my life. You grew up in DCI soon
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That's the only reason I grew up. When the Redskins
were kicking button taking names. Yeah, Charles Man, that's the
manly Joe Tideman, John Riggins, like the glory is you know,
it's unbelievable when you see him. Yeah, how bad it is?
And the empty seeds and there used to be a
waiting list and the Hogs and all that other stuff.
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I mean, it was happening. And how hard is it
to root for your team and see what's going on. Well,
I'm gonna tell you, man, for the first time in
my entire life, this season, I took a different approach.
I rooted against my team. Wow, when you have no
idea how hard it was to root against my team.
But I knew that the only way Dan Snyder was
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gonna make any significant changes is if the fan base
was so loud and fire Bruce Allen that hashtag. If
you look at my Twitter feed, it's all fired Bruce
Allen every single week of this season. And I got
I made a lot of enemies from our own fan
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base who were mad at me, calling me a fair
weather fan, telling me I'm not a real fan, right,
But I felt like it was my responsibility to speak
up for the players because we've had amazing players played
for that squad in the last ten years. That would
have been super Bowl. They would they would have rings,
Santana Moss, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that were
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true talent, but they wasted their best years of their
life playing for a team who's whose management did not
share the same winning attitude that the players on the field. Well,
you hated Bruce Allen, you got you got it done.
Now let me ask you, how do you feel. I'm
gonna ask you about two people. Ron Rivera obviously the
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new head coach, and Dwayne Haskins, the quarterback in the future.
How do you like both of them or dislike so
I'd like to start off with Dwayne Haskins. That's another
point of contention that I argue with Redskins fans about
who try to criticize the young man who got thrown
in in the middle of the season, never took a
rep with the first team, got thrown in in the
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middle of the game, was never developed by Jake Ruden.
This kid was basically put to the side. And I
saw what he did the RG three. If you don't
hit in his system exactly the way a square peg
would sit in a square system that can't score in
the red zone. By the way, because Alex Smith, Alex
Smith couldn't score in the red zone, and Jake Gruden's
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offense neither could Kirk Cousins. Look at how he balled
out this season. So it's a quarterbacks go to die
under Jake Bruden's offensive schemes. Okay, And to put this kid,
he didn't design a playbook to ease him into the league.
Take his strength and let's amplify his strength. So I
already knew I didn't want him to play. Everybody was like,
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let's put it the kid in, let's put hasks, let's
put it. I didn't want him to play because A
I knew Gruden was on his way out, and B
I didn't want him to ruin his confidence by throwing
him in an offense that's not designed to bring out
the best in the place. And it's gotta be rough
because Washington has become the DC has become the championship
city in sports America. Right then, that Shows won the
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World Series. Uh, the Capitols won their first Stanley Cup,
right and the w NBA you got the Wizards and
the Redskins are the only problem. But it's been good
times in DC, hasn't it? Sports wid Dan Snyder. Dan
Snyder needed to have egg on his face. And it
took a three and thirteen season and see all the
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other teams in DC now become the face of DC
for him to realize that he had to make a
bigger change than what he's been doing. Up until now.
The fans didn't matter, and this season, finally the fans matter. Now.
You live out you live out here in LA now
and your big basketball fan. The big question in town
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is Lakers or Clippers? Who you riding with? Who's the
better team? I thought it was Maryann or Ginger. Now
is that not the big question. I'm sorry, Robson, you
can have it. Rob I'm saying my name has been it.
I'm not in it. I got you. But you know what, man,
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I really really love Kauai. I love PG. I love
the energy that they brought to this city. I love
that they came in doc rivers. You know, everybody's an underdog,
but they're humble. There's no sense of entitlement in that team.
It's just hard work, their workhorses. Now I love Lebron
and a D two. Don't get it twisted. I'm not
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from this city, so I don't have an emotional connection
to eat the team. I just love LA basketball. You know.
I love what it stands for in the league. I
love what Magic Johnson stood for. You know, Kareem Shock,
you know these are all Lakers. But for the first time,
I think ever, we get we get to witness a
possible changing of the guard. As to who claims LA Basketball. However, yeah,
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that is. How about the big topic in the NBA
two this year is the load management. You know this.
You you make movies, people gotta go pay to see it.
You know, there's paying customers. And in the NBA you know,
some guys think, well, I need to take some time
off and not play back to back as a fan.
And the guy who's paid money to go to games,
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where are you on that load management? Do you understand
it or does it bother you? Because I have a
problem with it. If you had asked me this question
ten years ago, i'd have had a problem with it.
But once you hit forty you understand load management. They
ain't forty years taking load management the first week of
the season. But here's the thing. Here's the thing, all right,
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So in my business, right you'll turn on like one
of my shows and you'll see me do some crazy stuff.
Some of that stuff. I may have done some of
that stuff. There's a stunt man that does it. They
look good. The only reason that you stunt man is
because you got to load manage your start. You can't
afford him getting hurt doing a stunt. Now, you gotta
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shut the production down down for two or three months
and we can get back on it. That's a really
lon LOLd manage. That's not a bad I think that's
apples in orangees. I get where you're going though, but
we'll we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.
Let let me ask you this a two part question.
One were you an athlete growing up? What sports did
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you play? And two? Uh, do you do you if
you could play any athlete like in a movie? Do
you do you desire to do like a sports movie?
And who? What athlete would you want to portray? So?
I grew up in boxing and takuando back when. Yeah,
see I was an only child, so my mom she
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put me in sports that I could defend myself. Uh
because you know, she said, you don't got an older
brother to call, but Dan's get rough and DC at
the time was the murder capital of the US. Oh yeah,
I was like, So I'm not raising a boy that's
gonna be getting Chase home from school every day. You
got to be able to defend your coat that I
spent money buying and those boots that you're wearing, and
you know that. And if she bought you some Jordan,
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Hey they I saw many guys in New York growing
up go home with when socks. You know, I tell
you something, man, I got I got my big wheel
taken one time and she stopped me at the door,
turned me around and told me go get your big
wheel because he didn't steal it from you. He stole
it from me. I paid for it. Did you go
get that changed? That changed my entire way of looking
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at it. I was like, this guy stole my mother's
big deal, right and he and he paid for it?
All right, all right? But anyway, so yeah, So I
grew up in combat sports man and I still do
them to this day. I still box, I still practice
martial arts. I've added some jiu jitsu into the mix.
Um that's my thing. But uh, as far as I
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would think, you know, I almost did. At the time.
There was a production company out here. They wanted me
to play um uh, the baseball player from Puerto Rico.
What's the brother's name name? Been thrown around in the
mix for years to do that film, and for one
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reason or another, it never came to pass. But that
was something that I was passionate about because he was
such a powerful humanitarian, right was bigger than just sport.
He was. Wasn't that like New Year's Eve was going
to take stuff to help people, were taking stuff, supplies
to help people that I think they were some kind
of natural disaster and the plane win down. Yeah, tragic
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tragic story. Well, Laza Linzo, excellent job, brother. We had
a lot of fun talking with you. And you in LA.
We invite guys to come in spend an hour with
us in the studio. Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll do that.
We'll rob you. I'll come in and oh and I
forgot to tell you Ron Rivera. I'm very excited about him.
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He's going to change the culture in DC sports. I am.
I am predicting that this year in the NFC, the
entire NFC East is gonna make up for what we've
been doing for the last few seasons because we've been
so y'all making the playoffs go there. All right, I
just want to make sure we need an old line,
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you know, we need. We changed into a four three
defense after being a three four for over ten years,
so there's gonna be some growing pain, but I do
see us being more competitive than we've been in a
very long time. All Right. This is the great actor
Lisa Linzo. He's currently starring in The Boys on Amazon Prime,
and I'm gonna want to show on Amazon there it
is The Boys. You gotta check it out Amazon Prime
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and LA's fine us or a Spectrum, so you got
a lot of stuff in the words, brother, and we'll
be watching and again we will get you in the
studio and have you in us in with the Odd Couple. Man.
We appreciate the time. Thank you, gentlemen, appreciate being here.
Brother piece. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Chris Brussard and Rob Parker week days
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at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Jimmy Haslum How many
years of ownership? Rob G? That out? Twelve years? I
think of ownership with Jimmy Haslm. Rob G's not listening?
Look at him, rob G, rob G? What are you
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listening to? Check on Jimmy Haslm's ownership? Turn off? Turn
off that podcast. We just selected a new walk up
song for Greg Jenny better than Diana Loss anything but
muscles WI like it doesn't It's not a masculine song,
can I say? I don't know if you can say
that in twenty twenty, but that's why it's so perfect.
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But you got a better one, all right? Um? But
rob Gi has ms owned the Browns who ten years,
twelve years, so he's gone through six different coaches, and
he's gone through several front general managers. He's seven years,
he's been the owner seven years and five coaches, five
gms because he've been the owner for seven years. Yes,
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and he's fired five coaches and five general managers. I mean,
come on, I don't care if every coach and general
manager you hire is terrible. You gotta stick with somebody
at some point. You can't just expect dudes to turn
it around in one year or two years. Only coach
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he gave more than two years was Hugh Jackson and
he got two and a half. So their ownership, that's
a big problem. And then the other team, of course
robbed the Dallas Cowboys. Now they haven't been as bad
as the Browns, but the context too with Dallas Cowboys,
I'm sorry, I don't expect you. You've won what five
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Super Bowls, second most all times, and they had a
dynasty when they won three out of four back when
Jimmy Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson first took over. And
since then, since they won that third Super Bowl and
was that ninety six, they've now in the last twenty
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five years, Chris have won four playoff games, have never
been back to the NFC Championship game. Forget about getting
in there and having a chance to win and losing.
They haven't even been to the NFC Championship game in
twenty five years. They've been horrible. And again context, I
don't judge the Dallas Cowboys by the same standard I
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judged the Cleveland Browns by I'm sorry, you're the Dallas Cowboys.
He's like the Lakers. I don't judge the Lakers. Six
years out of the playoffs would be nothing for some franchise, right,
all right, So so both of those franchise had been
horrible and Jerry Jones. Look, I don't know. I mean now,
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I don't think Jason Garrett's gonna remain head coach. No,
I still don't. They're gonna there today their third meeting.
I mean now, the reports in the speculation is that
he's going to have another job in the Francise, and
I talked about that. I think they will come out
and announced he's being reassigned, right or promoted to the
front officers. I'm telling you, Chris, because he has such
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a Jerry has such an affinity for Jason Garrett doesn't
want to embarrass him. Their families are intertwined. His brother
works for the organization. This all that. What do we
keep saying? We use the term all the time, Chris,
Jerry runs it like a mom and pop stores is
the greatest and he doesn't want but he doesn't want
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to let Oh my, I can't do this to Jason.
He's in the family, the grown man. Yes, I didn't
hire it as a as a pro football coach. You
know what happens. You get fired sometimes. Most people get fired.
Ballotcheck got fired exactly. Everybody gets fired at some point.
I mean, come on, so and here my thing, Rob.
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I look, I don't know if you can have Jason
Garrett in football operations. I just think it's gonna create
more of the madness that you've had these last ten years.
With Jerry being the guy you can go to. Now,
it seems like a lot of players like Jason Garrett, right,
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whoever the new head coach now, not only may I
might go to Jerry, but I also might go to Jason.
You know, man, we used to do it. It was
better the way you did it. You know, your offense
was better than this. We need to get back to that.
I mean, that's you're gonna have all types of stuff.
Now you could have, you could have a situation. That's
why normally you need to break ye that he's gonna
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be a marketer or advertising website. You know that's gonna
write a column. Jason Garrett's column is gonna be on
Dallas Cowboys dot com. I can't wait to read his
first column. But you know, like you gotta get him
on where you couldn't even do a college because he'd
be criticizing the team. You gotta get him away from
football where he's not there all the time. The connections too.
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Closure wasn't Edward A kind of had a little report
about that, right, but that he might he might be said,
And I get it because it only it makes sense
if you look at I just don't think it's a
smart move. No, I agree. But here's what I'm gonna
do about the haslums, Chris, I hear what they've done
in seven years, right? Seven? That horrible. That's a lot, right,
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But they're not a lot. That's horrid. But they also
went through a winless season. They had one win, so
they had some bad stuff going on. But I'll tell
you what he did with John Dorsey. I totally one agreed,
and I give him credit not to stay the course
when that guy through a monkey wrench in what you
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had put together and hired an inexperienced Freddie Kitchen should
have never got that job. You said it, I know it,
you know it. Everybody knows that Chris John Dorsey tried
to force Freddie Kitchens on all these veteran coaches who
wouldn't even come for the interview, right you right or wrong?
Give me that right. I agree with you that he
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made a mistake that was ampiring Freddy k Yes, that
was a big mistake. Did it have to be fatal? Yes,
this is a guy that has a winning pedigree. Again,
this is a guy that lets look, there was a
reason that people thought the Browns would be nice this year.
There was a reason I picked him to make the
playoffs this year. Well, you made a mistake because they
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had a lot of talent and who put that talent together.
That's only one but it's on paper. But I'm saying
in Kansas City they were two and fourteen before he
got there. He turned them around. Now they're one of
the top franchise. I'm just saying you all I'm saying
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is the dude has a track record but of winning.
And that's more I can than I can say for
most of the people in that organization. Mistake. I just
don't know that. And I'm not gonna say defend him
to high Heaven, but I'm just saying, now you here's
what they're gonna do. Rob. They're gonna hire the head
coach and let him have a saying pick in the
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gym that's backwards. And I get it, Mike m you
can bring in certain guys that have that type of
cashe Mike McCarthy. I think he gotta hire Mike McCarthy
because I need an adult in that organization and that
I need an older man who's got some respect, and
he and Mike McCarthy would have it because he's already
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won a championship. And see this is I think what
the Haslems are looking at Chris is that he's so
he's so messed up the whole situation in not realizing
with the personalities he was putting together, that you couldn't
have a coach that the guys didn't respect. Do you
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know what I mean? Like, how did John Dortsey really
think this was gonna work. And he also a lot
of people looked at it and said he wound up
giving Baker Mayfield too much credit and allowing him to
pick the coach because he had a relationship with Freddy Kitchens.
Why are you doing that with Aca Mayfield, a second
year guy, and you know what happened to him this year?
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He took two steps backwards. I agree, right, that's where
John Dorsey made a mistake. It's a fatal mistake. This
team was not supposed to go backwards to six and ten, Chris.
They were seven eight in one last year. They added olbj,
they added all these other pieces right, and they went backwards.
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They were worse than they were. That's why I think
John Dorsey had to pay for it with his gig. Well, look,
if you bring in the right hand coach and you
get the right structure in front office in place, I'll
give you that. But I just think they're going about
this thing backwards. Now, now you're gonna hire it better again,
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it better be Mike McCarthy, because what if you if
you hire a young guy, even in Urban Meyer and
there is a report that they're interested in Urban Meyer
Brown Bruce Fellman and then Jimmy Haslm came out and said,
right now, they're focused on guys in the NFL, so
he kind of shot it down at least for the
time being. And I really like urban Meyer. I think
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if the Cowboys hired him that that would be a
good hire. But Jones my only question. I agree that
Jerry would have to give him the reins, which I
don't think he would do, and that's the problem. But
I'm kind of assuming if they do hire him that
Urban will have told them and made sure. Look, I'm
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gonna be able to run things. But getting back to
the brown you know what I would have told Jerry, Joey,
You've been doing it for twenty five years. Man, let me.
I'm a football guy. I'm gonna do right by you.
You wanted him win another championship. Let me do this,
I agree, let me do this. I agree. But as
far as the Browns, here's my only question about urban Meyer.
And obviously from Ohio and you know Ohio State bowling
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green great success at these places, but he hasn't coached
in the NFL. It's another guy that has unproven. That's
what they've been doing doesn't always translate because Nick Saban
failed in a lot of guys, right, so Steve Steve
Smurria failed. Yep, yep, that's my only question. I if
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I'm the Brows and you never know for sure, but
I want a guy that's proven. If if they hired
Mike McCarthy and it doesn't work, it's hard to kill
him for that. No, that's the right higher right, It
just it just didn't work out. But I agree with that.
That would be one where you would look and go
pedigree uh walks into the locker room. He automatically has respects.
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My championship break nothing. Don't tell me. I work with
Aaron Rodger. We went on the road and want a
super Bowl. We beat Pittsburgh, you know what I mean. Yep,
And they have to listen. I'm gonna try. You want
to get a super Bowl? You're trying to get there.
Let me lead you. Yep. I'm trying to tell you.
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I've been there the mountain top. I've worked with Aaron
Rodgers Baker. Listen, right, sit, shut up and listen. Look
like he's like a dad. I'm just saying like you
need that's what raised with authority, and I think that's good. Yeah.
A backhand, the front hand a belt. But that's what
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I think they need to clear. Let me ask you this, Rob,
and we'll throw it out to our callers. Jerry Jones,
we talked about two franchises where the ownership is kind
of screwing things up. Who you got more faith in,
Jerry Jones or or Hassling. I'm serious. Jerry has has
a twenty five year track record that he will not
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give up the reins. He continues to run it like
it's his home, personal plaything, and I just don't see
him like this late in the game, Chris, He's already
in the Hall of Fame, right, he still wants to
do it his way. He will not go but I
know what he wants another one. But he got it,
ain't one the way he got the three, yes, right,
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because he got three like that, he wants his own look.
I think Jerry Jones is a better owner than Jimmy HASLM.
But I agree with you in this immediate context because
he's not as hands on as Jones, because he doesn't
have his own radio spot every week, because he's not
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holding court for thirty minutes after every game, right even
before the coach talk, right, because of those things. Yeah,
I'm going with Jimmy Haslm. Fox Sports Radio has the
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You know I love you, but you have a take
that I just think it is ridiculous. I think it's
self serving. I think it's to support your narrative that
you be I don't have an a year long with
the Green Bay Packers and for this is the take.
(25:05):
For you to sit here and say that of all
the quarterbacks in the playoffs, Aaron Rodgers has the least
amount of pressure on him, that is ludicrous. I can't
believe you would even fix your mouth to say that.
It makes it's hard to believe you believe that. It
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makes perfect sense when you look at this team and
what they've done this year, how balanced this team is.
They were three and old when he didn't throw a
touchdown this year, which was impossible in years gone by.
They were years ago. They were aiden one against good teams.
They won other ways. This is not just about Aaron Rodgers. Finally,
(25:50):
it's about Aaron Jones. It's about the Smiths on Defense Bowl.
That's fine. He had nineteen touchdowns and he can score running.
All I'm telling him about to be Ezekiel Elliott. It
ain't about all I'm saying. They won all year. They
were thirteen and three with Aaron Rodgers having them good
(26:11):
sea good season, saying good season. You know what, he
has had a good season. He was a Pro Bowler,
he had he had a good season. And all I'm
saying is that there are other guys who have way
more pressure, but Aaron Rodgers I believe he has. He
doesn't have any pressure. Okay, this is about going out
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and playing. Everybody's written him off. Bucky Brooks has told
you he's broken down and no good. Aaron Rodgers had
three games each year, so nobody's gonna be expecting anything
from Aaron Rodgers this year. We'll just wait and see
for the playoffs. He has no pressure. He can go
out there. He ain't got to score forty points, he
don't have to throw five touchdowns. They've been winning all
(26:54):
year without that. For the first time, he could just
go out and play football without knowing that without you,
there's no way they can win. And that's what he
always went into every year and every postseason. Okay, if
you're saying that they have a fairly balanced team, that's
what I'm And now he's got other you know, the
defense can him right? Okay, that's one thing. No, I
(27:20):
don't agree. But if you're if you're saying that should
they lose first or saying what I'm saying, okay that nobody,
there's not gonna be any problem. Oh the Packers, they
were thirteen and three, they lost their first playoff game.
It's okay, and mean when you say no, because the
pressure comes from the media, the fans, the perception. No,
(27:45):
but that's what I'm saying. I agree with you that
they got a balance squad. This doesn't for him right
for every game he's gonna have to be air and Rogers.
I'm not saying. I'm not saying that he can go
and not have a touchdown and they win a playoff game.
All I'm saying is this is not the error Rogers
team that has given up forty or more points four
or five times in a postseason and Aaron has to
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throw a some hail Mary touchdown in order to tie
the game or win the game at the end because
the defense gave it up. This is a different, well
balanced team, and I'm telling you he doesn't go in
with that burden of knowing if I don't have a
record setting day, we're not winning a playoff. This tom Brady,
You've said that all year, Right, he even won a
(28:27):
super Bowl last year without throwing the touchdown. No, Tom
Brady has doesn't have to be spectacular. Oh he has
to be better than he has been because as he
don't have Rogers, if they're gonna win a super Bowl.
I told he's gonna have to give us one of
those vintage airs, at least one we saw the last
time we saw Jim Brady Roppolo have to do it
all for the forty nine ers. No, the argument is this,
(28:50):
Ry Parker, if if if Patrick Mahomes doesn't get to
the super Bowl, nobody's gonna rip him. Yes they will.
He's in this the second year as a starter. That's
all right, eight years a start the Super Bowl and
Dann Marino is praised. Dan Moreno was one of the
ten quarterbacks of all time because of that second year. Well,
(29:13):
he didn't win anything, didn't we bet that? You said
he was gonna have forty or more touchdowns he finished
with twenty year. He got hurt. That's the reason why. Yeah,
that's the reason why he got her. You're sure he
would have got Why are you leaving the discussion because
you know I'm right? No, because I want to make
a point against you. Hold on. There's no pressure on Patrick,
(29:34):
There's no pressure on Lamar down. Is anybody gonna kill
Ryan Tannehill if they lose the first game? No? Yes,
and get the down Patriots team don't Most people do
not expect them to beat the Patriots? Whynot? I heard
(29:54):
the Patriots and it's in Foxborough and they haven't lost
the home playoff game in years. All I'm saying is
this notion that there's no pressure or a round what
he said, no pressure? That the question was that the question?
That's what I was told. Did you said he has
the least amount of press least? That doesn't mean no? Okay, lead,
(30:15):
there's more pressure. If Aaron Rodgers doesn't get to the
super Bowl, he will get criticized more than if Deshaun Watson.
And if and if and if Lamar Jackson fizzles and
can't win. Right said, they fall behind and they can't
run the football, and they gotta throw and he can't
do it. Everybody in their uncle will point and say, see,
(30:38):
I told you a running quarterback can't winning the playoffs
or can't get to the super Bowl. He has more
pressure because they had an unbelievable season and people expect
this to continue the postseason. It doesn't matter, it does,
it doesn't. Nobody expected Lebron's and Jamia James didn't make
(30:58):
the playoffs his second year, and no it's not. I
mean Dak Prescott was getting praised for just winning a
few games and getting Dallas to the playoffs, even though
they didn't get to a super Bowl. I think Jacksons
wins is he ever won, it didn't have the same thing.
It's the same thing. He doesn't have the same pressure
because the team is beat up and battered and if
(31:21):
they were somehow somewhere able to win the playoff game,
he would be on another playfows, which doesn't have Everybody
knows he's he's delayed depleted pressure. Yea, I think I
wouldn't say. I wouldn't put him in the category like
I said myhomes Watson. He stayed healthy old year, Chris.
They won their last four games to get in. People
have already said, Carson Winn showed us something this year.
(31:43):
Would you agree with that? Yes, but he showed us
some of them is the standard. He's following Nick Foles,
who won a Super Bowl in Philadelphia. You know Philadelphia,
they're not rational. You know that they're not gonna say, oh,
Carson showed us something. He he beat the Cowboys and
the Giants at the end of the season, and the Redskins,
(32:04):
and you know these weak sisters that they played against.
I know he did it with beat up you know,
a beat up roster, and I'll give you, I'll give
you that. It's not the most pressure in the world
on him. I'm just saying the seat here and act
like if the Green Bay Packers lose their first or
second what I said, say anything about a People already
(32:26):
talking about Aaron Rodgers wondering where's the old Aaron Rodgers?
Why did he only have three or four games of
three hundred or more yards? Why do you have so
many games with zero or one touchdown? And Rogers carry
him if they lose in the playoffs. You don't think
people are gonna start saying that. I'm talking about going
into the playoffs. He doesn't have to feel like I
(32:48):
got us put up forty points in five touchdowns, okay,
to give my team a chance to win that. But
it's not news that it is new. This is new
for him. This is my point. That's why County it
done and they had to do all. It was always
about him. You know. That'll give you that he don't
have to do that this year and they can still win.
They were three, but he didn't throw a touchdown. It's
(33:10):
just different. For Aaron Rod Tran Francisco can do the
same thing. Garoppolo wasn't carrying them all the time. I'm
just saying there's okay. So you're not saying that he
won't be criticized, willized, Okay, that's where That's what pressure is.
That's what pressure is.
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