January 9, 2020 • 29 mins
It's The Best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob explain why that while LeBron James might not be scared of Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers, he'd be wise to have a healthy fear of them. The guys also get into a heated debate about whether it's more important for Tom Brady or Bill Belichick to win away from the other, and, the Odd Couple Crew discuss if the Golden Globe producers are a little too 'woke' in the latest edition of Shop Talk.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker, our good friend,
longtime colleague at the Old Place, stephen A Smith. Yes,
he said the Clippers kicked the Lakers butt, which they
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did twice. Yeah, and Christmas was the big one. Everybody
was watching, and stephen A had him a heavy report
that he uh said on the air today on the
first take here. It is the only reason I bring
it up is because I was per an. The league
told that the quote was tell Lebron to stop being
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scared to guard me. That's what Kawhi Lenard has set
up all right now. Lou Williams, obviously Kawai's teammate with
the Clippers, has come out and denied that he said.
I've never heard him say anything close to that about anybody.
He just competes all right, So there's that and the
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Clippers overall. I know a few other people in the
organization have denied it. So whether it's true or not, though,
here's what we want to get to, Rob should You
know a lot of people and I picked the Lakers
to win the championship. But I'm that's getting shaky in
my mind right now. You black down a little bit.
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I will not. I'm telling you if they play the
Clippers again, and I you know me, I've covered the
league almost thirty years. I don't overestimate regular season games,
but I already knew how great the Clippers were. Like
the Clippers they are, and they're on paper they should
be the favorites. I have not liked the way the
Lakers have competed against them. I don't see the same swag.
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I don't see the same confident right there around might
running everybody. But when they get to the Clippers, they
don't have that same swag, and they I want to
see them confident. I want to see their swag because
here's the thing. They have outplayed the Clippers like the
first three quarters of each matchup, when again in the
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fourth quarter the Clippers have taken it to him. So
I'm just they might just be a tough matchup for
the Lakers, because here's the thing. Lebron James is pretty
much the lone playmaker for the Lakers, and that's one
thing they're looking the upgrade. The stats show when he
gets on the bench that they you know, they they turn. Yeah,
and so that's hard enough. But when you have to
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be the lone playmaker against the perimeter like Kawuhi, Paul
George and Patrick Beverley, oh my. And that's that's what
has the Lakers should have them concerned, whether they are
or not. Maybe that's why they know that they need
to go make a deal for somebody else. Yeah, because look,
to me, Rob, it's about two teams in the West.
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I'm look, Houston's good, they're gonna win fifty something hardened
maybe MVPs in the running. Uh, Dallas is nice, but
they're young, they got they got ways to go. Denver, Utah,
they're playing good basketball. But no, the only team that
can beat the Lakers is the Clippers. And so that's
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who they need to be building themselves to beat. And
the question I want to throw out, Rob, is should
the Lakers be concerned about the Clippers one. I think
they should should because when the Clippers first beat him,
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Chris on Opening Night, no Paul George, okay, and they
had a big Remember they started the game because we
went to that game. Remember it was like it was
like fifteen to two or something or whatever the start was,
and they had a fifteen point leading the third quarter
and that right, and I think Lebron in that game, Chris,
if I remember, was it uh seven for twenty something
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seven and then the next game was nine for twenty four.
He didn't shoot seven for sixteen or whatever it was.
But Lebron is struggle for whatever reason against the Clippers
so far, and then both of those games they led,
so they didn't have uh, Paul George in game one,
Clippers still won. Then they got Paul George and they
had their full team. They were down in the first
half and they come back right right, cruising, feeling good.
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Everybody's like feeling good, and then all of a sudden,
that whole thing turns around and it's another win for
the Clippers. And then you start to say to yourself, Chris,
forget about one game. Can they beat them four out
of seven? That's the thing that the third game they
play January twenty eight, Right, that's the next test. And
if the Clipper, if it's essentially the same old song,
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then you're right, you have to start wondering. And again,
we wouldn't do this with most teams because it's the
regular season and we've seen this movie. We've seen teams
get swept in the regular season and then beat the
team in the playoffs. And I wouldn't put anything past Lebron.
It's not like I'm saying they have no chance, no, no, no.
But if they beat you three in a row where
you know it's a big game, your upfeach time you
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play them, and how are you gonna beat them four
out of seven? That's the big thing because there is
a degree of confidence and for the Clippers feeling like
we get this guy, we know, we know we don't right,
and there is a little factor like that team is
tough to play. They do that. It's all flipped on
the Clippers side, because you know, Kawhi is a close off.
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I can't remember who was talking about this, and they
were making a point about to call the closers, and
they do have closers where you feel the three right,
Lou Williams is a closer off the bench. He could
close out a game and got Paul George. But I'm
just saying he has not a village too. But if
but he has that ability, if he gets hot and
he's knocking down shots. All I'm saying is they got
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almost two and a half three guys who can do that.
And then you're looking at the Lakers going and no,
it was it was Eddie House who we were talking
to a house today because Eddie was the one who
was bringing it up. And the other part was, you know,
a d needs somebody to get him the basketball, and
that's a big difference. That's always the thing that can
neutralize a big man because you can't dribble and they're like,
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I don't need anybody else give me the ball. I'm
gonna dribble up. I'm gonna make my own play, right
because he's not shocking. No, I think if he's shocking
there it's easy to get him the ball and you
can't get it. But it's not. He's not shock. He's
not that automatic exactly. And that's what I'm saying. So
so I think Eddie made a great point and I
agree with it. You know what we missed. Depth is
much better, and the Lakers have depth, but they don't
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have the depth that the Clippers have. And here's another
factor in it, robbed. The Clippers just appear to be hungrier.
I mean, look, let's Lebron has got three rings. I'm
not saying he doesn't want more, but it's just human nature.
The Clippers are hungry. Kau Why's hungry? Is his first
year back home in La. You know he wants to
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win a championship for his hometown. Paul George never got
in that ring, probably may have felt like he never
had was gonna have a great chance here again, Harold,
their dogs will all dogs, and you got a great coach.
And it's just what is there not to like? And
the other part, and we talked about it earlier this season, Chris,
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who do you trust the front office to go out
and get a piece if they need a piece? I
like the Clippers front office better. I'm not saying that
the Lakers couldn't do it, but I like that. If
I was grading the two front officers, I would take
the clip. You would put the Clippers ahead of him.
The Lakers. We gotta give him crazy. I'm not saying
that once they lost Kawhid they did a job. But
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I'm just saying if i'm if I'm looking at the
makeup of the front office, I would take the Clippers
getting the white guy if they need a piece well,
and the Clippers have players because of the depth, they
got more players they can offer. The Lakers don't have
as many assets to offer either. But the Lakers, look,
if they do the right thing, then I do think
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they have a shot. I'm not going off on the
pick yet. I'm not. I'm still sticking with my pick
right now. No, I don't know, You're not still I'm
just but I'm saying Lebron's gotta be more aggressive when
they're playing the Clippers and a D in the fourth quarter.
Rob gc find out how many points a D had
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on the Christmas Day in the fourth because he has
zero one right, and I don't think he had many. Now,
he didn't do a lot of damna two in the
in the Christmas Day game. He's a big he hasn't
advantage over the Clippers because they have nobody his size
to guard him. You put Zubach on him, he takes
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him outside and kills him from the perimeter. You put
Montres Harold on him, or Kawhi or Paul Georgie and somebody,
he should be able to post them and murder him
on the block. But he hasn't done it yet. And
I was on with as you know, as you said
earlier with Skipp and Shannon, Skip brought up a good
statistic I hadn't known. He said, Lebron in the fourth
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quarter has taken more shots than any player in the league.
But not only that, one hundred and three more shots
a D in the fourth quarters, which shocked. That is
an incredible number. Four points for two points in the
fourth round together the best five players in the world.
So that's use him. And so I think the LA
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need to start just like they've you know, they've they've
got a D playing through injuries because they want to
build up his toughness physically and mentally, where now you
believe I don't have to be ninety five to one
hundred percent healthy to go out there and ball. So
that's why he's playing through all this stuff, because they
want to build him up, get him ready for the
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playoffs and the future, toughen him up. I say, you
have to do the same thing in the fourth quarters.
Feed this man, get him the ball, and get him
used to scoring buckets in the fourth quarter. So when
you face the Clippers, woman, I'm to come down to
the fourth quarters. I agree, And you not only have Lebron,
but you'll have him to help get him ready for it, right,
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don't mess around. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays
at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Drew Bledsoe had an
interesting comment on CBS Radio about Brady and Belichick and
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the possible breakup of this great tandem. Here's what he
had to say. I do think there's some intrigue, probably
on both sides, to see if they can do it
without the other guy. For Tom to see if he
can win without billing, for Bill to see if he
can win without Tom. I think there's intrigue on both sides.
It's gonna see where the credit really lies in that situation.
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All right, Rob, I'll let you go first. I know
where you're going. Everybody on Earth knows where you're going.
But go ahead. What no I believe that Drew is
right from the standpoint that there is something there about Uh,
if I can win without him, then not that it's
gonna change anybody's legacy, Chris, because I get it. Once
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you won six championships, it ain't he's the goat, the glow.
He could be the gloat. And the point is you're
the only person on the plant that doesn't call him
to go. He's a pleasing more than there's more than
just me, give me a name. I can't Twitter. Can
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we go? I don't have enough? You know people lie
on that Twitter. Max Kellerman, can I give you all?
That's a name? You know? How about that? I'm not
sure that. Does he say he's nothing nothing, he's not
a Pats fan. But does he say he's not to go?
Who's he saying is the goat? Joe Martana, You're just
just saying now he's four. No. I think there is
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a thing to this that each would love the opportunity
to win without the other, and it would just one
up all the people think that Tom Brady's a system
quarterback and it's all about Bill Belichick. You don't get
gold status or even in the conversation if you're just
a game manager, a system quarterback. But he but he's
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won how many sis? No, but he's won two or
three without having a touchdown. I mean, Tom Brady, stop,
give me the RT. It's a short menu. Rod Parker
wins and losses. But they've won super Bowls with time
and the first Super Bowl, tom Brady had one touchdown?
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Did he win? Last year he had none? Did he win?
And I'm just telling you that people looking go tom
Brady just happened to be lucky in the right spot
at the right time. Any hold on when he got
five hundred and five hundred and five yards a playoff
record against Atlanta or no, that was phil Philadelphia had lost,
then you don't give him credit? Well, but you don't
you praise him for that if you're gonna kill him
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for not throwing the touchdown in the Super because it
ain't about yards, it's about points. He left points on
the field. That's why they lost. Tom Brady left points
on the field. But anyone answer for everything I do
not a good one, but so so I do believe
there's some truth to that that they would love, because
then it would be that's the tidebreaker. You got two
guys who were together. They did all the winning together. Right,
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so finally if they separate, right, Christa size that he
wants to have a solo show. He didn't want to
the couple anymore. And then you know, I bring in
Rob Gara and uh he's the f and the show
flops and the show like Swords, we get better numbers.
Then what would you say? It wouldn't be about Rob,
it would be about me and we finally got rid
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of the dead. Wait, you know what I'm saying. So
I do believe Rob g What do you think? You're
staying me? And Alex you're staying me and DJ Alex
Tysher you're staying You're staying. But you see, my point
is that no, no, But when when people break up
and if somebody else has success, then you're gonna say
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it was about this guy compared to the other guy.
Tom Brady comes to LA and plays for the Chargers
and nothing happens, and and he looks like he has
the last two playoffs. People would go Tom Brady, really,
you know what, he just was a system quarterback without
without Bill Bill, he's forty three. No, because the forty
doesn't matter. Nobody wants to hear that enough enough enough.
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Nobody wants to hear madness. Rob, this is madness. Tom Brady,
I don't believe has this itch to go improve. He
can do it without Bill Belichick. Why stay with him
for twenty years at below market value money if you're
so eager to get away improve something. I mean, seriously,
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he doesn't have that to prove, and so he wants
to stay in New England. I really believe that. I'm
not saying it's gonna have let me finish ahead. I
just want you to believe he wants to stay in
New England, but they may not want to keep him,
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and that that's kind of what it's looking like at
this Why not he's to go? You just said he's
to go? You want to keep two years old? Now,
on the flip side, I do believe that Bill Belichick
wants to get rid of Brady and show part of
it because he you know, he's forty two years old.
He knows he's gonna just keep declining. But part of it, also,
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I believe, is to prove that he can win it
without Tom Brady because guess what. Guess what? And this
is where I take issue with you, Rob, saying it
would be a tiebreaker. There's no tie. There's no tie, folks.
Bill Belichick has been without Tom Brady. And I've utmost
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respect for Bill Belichick's coaching ability. How about his cheated right,
I don't respect that, But he's a he's a great coaches,
the great coach and maybe the greatest ever. I think
that the cheating makes it tough, but he's probably the
greatest ever. That's said. He's been without Tom Brady for
seven years, folks. You can't wash that away. And he's
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made the playoffs one time. Chris Well, no, stop, let me.
These are facts, right. I know you don't like listening
to facts. I'll give you. See. I know you want
to kick feelings up in here, but I put facts
on the airwaves. All right now, listen one and six
without Tom Brady, and look, I will give Belichick this.
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There's no doubt he's a better coach now than he
was earlier in their career. And five of those seasons
came in Cleveland, where I actually did think he was
a pretty good coach. They didn't like him in Cleveland,
they fired him. He made the playoffs once out of
five years. But here's the real. This is what really
stings those that want to say Belichick is the key,
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more so than Brady. Belichick's first year in New England,
he went five and eleven and five and eleven, and
you didn't have a slug playing quarterback. You had Drew Bledso, folks,
you had Drew bled Soul. And then the first year
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that Tom Brady starts, remember bled Soul got hurt. Okay,
they were oh and two, oh and two when Tom
Brady took over after bled So got hurt. And then
Brady leads them to an overall they go eleven and
three the rest of the way, and then they win
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the Super Bowl and the rest is history. That's it, Rob,
There's no tie. Rob Parker with the Tide talk, here
we go. Bill Belichick has already wanted the eyes of
a lot of people when you look at the Patriots. Okay,
and what did he's been able to do? What about?
Oh God, just I'm giving you something. Without Tom Brady
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went to they want. They were eleven and five with
Chris they won eleven games without what the playoffs. They
don't care if they went fifteen and one. If they
don't make the playoffs. It's Ben too, it didn't count.
Here's the second part. Garoppolo's rise is perfect proof that
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Bill Belichick had his draft. He drafted him, He had
him as Brady's replacement, and he would be right where
they needed the Patriots to be ready to go on
for the next ten years. Had they listened to Bill
Belichick and had they gotten rid of Tom Brady a
year too early rather than the years a couple of
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years too early than a couple of years late. So
Bill Belichick is the right guy. He understands, he knows
what he's doing. Bob Kraft let his feelings get in
the way, and that's why he kept Tom Brady around
because he was all in his feelings. Yes, Bob Kraft,
you can't live in the past. So what it might
have been good to you in the past, It's over, baby,
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Move on to the next piece, I mean, next person.
You know what I'm saying. Are you going just let
me save you from yourself and jump up? But Garoppolo's
rise is a perfect example. Hold on. What they did
by keeping Tom Brady was derailed Bill Belichick's future. And
now Bill Belichick knew what he was doing. He could
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have had his guy one another Super Bowl or two
without Tom Brady and could have been there. He was
already there. Well, look you disagree with that, Yes, I'll
give you that. Garoppolo clearly was the air apparent. Right.
What this is where I question you and I look,
Garoppolo's being great? What is he rod? He's twenty and
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three years, He's only lost like a handful of game.
Helic up his record as a starter. But it's something great.
You count going out with the with the porn storm public?
Is that an ella? Was that an l or win?
It ain't he got an ell? Yeah, I'm just saying
for taking one to a restaurant in public. He's twenty
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one five. Here's my issue though, with what you said.
We don't know yet what he's going to do on
the big stage. No, it mattered because what what was
it about Tom Brady that helped make him to go?
He was clutched? How many game winning drives, whether they
ended in a field goal, that it's part of the game.
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Stop it. It's like criticizing me for hitting game winning
free throws rather than the game winning three points. It
doesn't matter. It's like the Carmelo basket tie game. Anybody
can make that shot. Well it no, they game winning
drives are what Tim Brady is known for. You can't
tell me guarantee. You can't guarantee me that the Patriots
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would have won the super Bowl last year with Jimmy
Garoppolo instead of Tim Brady. Why Tom Brady didn't do
anything in that game? Go back less than two hundred
yards and he had well no touchdowns, one pick in
a fumble he beat. I think Jimmy Garoppolo could have
done the same exact thing. It's different on the big stage, drob.
And that's my boot. Now if Garoppolo you you think
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they're gonna lose the Minnesota Yeah, but that's because I
like gonna praise Garoppolo. He's gotta do. It might not
be the reason that they lose, though, What if their
defense is bad? It's about w's you see. That's your
favorite quote short menu until you're boxed into a corner,
usually by me. I mean, seriously, though, Jimmy Garoppolo, Let's
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see what he can do in the playoffs before we
crown him. You want to crown him, crown him. I'm
not crowning him, but I might. That's all I'm saying
with the crowd him the crowned her ass. Tom Brady
wears the crown, Rob Parker, don't you forget that either.
And I'm telling you the facts are with with Brady
over Belichick, and Brady's that that it's you know what,
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will say he's old. Just like we said about Michael Jordan.
They didn't messed up his legacy when he went to run.
Say anybody's legacy was gonna be messed up. When it's
a bad look, it's a desperate Did we say did
we ever say that about Jordan? Nobody? He didn't look
as bad as he had put up decent numbers. Brady looks.
Brady looks awful. The last two players, they won twelve games.
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I said, the last two playoff games. He has no touchdown.
Really the defense gave up fourteen points at home and
they couldn't win. They won the Super Bowl in spite
of Brady. Stop it six rings anyway, You're turned away
in eight, seven, seven, ninety nine five. Two of Brady's
first three Super Bowls under two hundred yards passing, and
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it was about Adam Venetarian. Wasn't Brady the luckiest of
all time? Chris go look at the stats. He won
two of the six Super Bowls without throwing the touchdown.
Now is we about to go let's go untrusting you
get a second win? Because Rob G's whis brittany Oka
say nothing. He's working on a shop talk. Fox Sports
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It is shop talk, the akap of Fox Sports Radio.
We do this every single Thursday forty five pm. So
we discuss something that happened outside of the world of sports.
Because you know, we're very well rounded individuals. We got
other interests. And this week's story comes to us courtesy
of the Golden Globes. Now, you know that Hollywood is
very woke. Oh yeah, very woke, and they kind of
stepped it up even more so this week. They decided
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that they were going to offer a all vegan meal plan.
And here's the thing. As far as I can tell,
they did not offer any alternatives. They one who wanted
a steak or a chicken or a bison meat like
the Rocks. So here's the question. Do you think the
Golden Globe took it too far by forcing veganism on
the rest of the celebrities. Yes, yes, this is the problem.
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I like having to having an option, but but where's
the option for the people like to eat meat? I mean,
the problem with the political politically correct crowd is they're
as intolerant as the people that they claim are intolerant. Right,
everybody's got to believe their way and do what they want, Like,
there's nothing wrong with eating meat. There were soldiers there.
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They wanted meat. DJ Alex Tysher he's our resident. Yes,
come on, does this thing? We do our thing? Alex? Right?
You you even see this as a problem, don't you?
All right? So, yes, I'm plant based. I've been for
about three years now. I've made the transition and I'm
never going back. Once you see how your body changed before,
So once you go plant, you never go back. The
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statement I've ever heard rob Um. Here's the thing, though,
surprising to most, is that I'm going to side with
you guys on who the thing is that I have
the biggest issue with most plant based eaters nowadays, especially
because it's more of a cultural growth and it's supposed
to be more of the popping things. And basically is
it's because people now that I've noticed are vegans, they
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predominantly have to overtell you that they're vegans and have
to push it upon you and other people. I don't
believe in that. Just do your thing, you don't have to.
I've noticed myself because we've had a horde of interns
come through here, is that they're very interested in my
lifestyle because I don't talk about it or go above
and beyond to show it to them. They're interested on
how I act because of it, and they see those
big shopping beds and they want to know what you're doing.
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Back then, rob G, where are you? You know what?
Look at you? First of all, you don't even know
what is Every time I walk into our meeting, you're
eating either a hamburger, chicken wings, pizza, and your husky wing.
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The reason and why because I would never pay myself
to get an all vegan meal, but if if I'm
gonna get a free meal, and if I gotta try it,
I'd rather not pay for it. So I'm sad that
they're doing it because I'm not gonna pay for it myself.
Not all you in a long way for that way,
we're in a long way. Would you like to hear
what's on the menu, because I have right in front
of me the only go ahead chilled golden beat soup,
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no thank you, King, oyster, mushroom quote unquote scallops or
their face tallops. And for dessert vegan opera dome featuring
caramelized that he's on. That sounds where did cheesecain good vegan?
Aren't they? I mean they have dairy. I get that.
Chris Chris Vegan donuts, the Chrisma Chris. They don't have me.
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I've been fooled by veganism. Christall eat like twenty vegan donuts,
thinking that they they don't put I thought I was
doing great cookies. I'm gaining weight and I'm like, what's
going on? They get you, man? Hey. The only good
thing about the Golden Globe is that they did in
the big gift bags that they give out and ready
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they did give everybody a pair of planties. So that
was so the women they love that you just can't
help yourself. Now, that would be funny on stage, No planties,
I could tell the story of I'm investing, No, this
was this. I'm surprised you're not gonna open mind because
you did try to go vegan for like a week
and a half, so that's why I'm surprised you're not
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with it. And then he had a hamburger with hair
on it. That was not with forcing it on people
as I mean, you can talk about it, you can
evangelize on it, but you don't have to force it
on them, like you know what. By doing that, there
are now a few more cows walking around with nowhere
to go that I'm not buying the house to not
go in to college. Their lives are ruined because they
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were supposed to go to slaughter and now they got
to walk around for another month with nothing to do.
All right, you lost me there, or maybe they get
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker, our good friend,
longtime colleague at the Old Place, stephen A Smith. Yes,
he said the Clippers kicked the Lakers butt, which they
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did twice. Yeah, and Christmas was the big one. Everybody
was watching, and stephen A had him a heavy report
that he uh said on the air today on the
first take here. It is the only reason I bring
it up is because I was per an. The league
told that the quote was tell Lebron to stop being
(01:06):
scared to guard me. That's what Kawhi Lenard has set
up all right now. Lou Williams, obviously Kawai's teammate with
the Clippers, has come out and denied that he said.
I've never heard him say anything close to that about anybody.
He just competes all right, So there's that and the
(01:28):
Clippers overall. I know a few other people in the
organization have denied it. So whether it's true or not, though,
here's what we want to get to, Rob should You
know a lot of people and I picked the Lakers
to win the championship. But I'm that's getting shaky in
my mind right now. You black down a little bit.
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I will not. I'm telling you if they play the
Clippers again, and I you know me, I've covered the
league almost thirty years. I don't overestimate regular season games,
but I already knew how great the Clippers were. Like
the Clippers they are, and they're on paper they should
be the favorites. I have not liked the way the
Lakers have competed against them. I don't see the same swag.
(02:14):
I don't see the same confident right there around might
running everybody. But when they get to the Clippers, they
don't have that same swag, and they I want to
see them confident. I want to see their swag because
here's the thing. They have outplayed the Clippers like the
first three quarters of each matchup, when again in the
(02:35):
fourth quarter the Clippers have taken it to him. So
I'm just they might just be a tough matchup for
the Lakers, because here's the thing. Lebron James is pretty
much the lone playmaker for the Lakers, and that's one
thing they're looking the upgrade. The stats show when he
gets on the bench that they you know, they they turn. Yeah,
and so that's hard enough. But when you have to
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be the lone playmaker against the perimeter like Kawuhi, Paul
George and Patrick Beverley, oh my. And that's that's what
has the Lakers should have them concerned, whether they are
or not. Maybe that's why they know that they need
to go make a deal for somebody else. Yeah, because look,
to me, Rob, it's about two teams in the West.
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I'm look, Houston's good, they're gonna win fifty something hardened
maybe MVPs in the running. Uh, Dallas is nice, but
they're young, they got they got ways to go. Denver, Utah,
they're playing good basketball. But no, the only team that
can beat the Lakers is the Clippers. And so that's
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who they need to be building themselves to beat. And
the question I want to throw out, Rob, is should
the Lakers be concerned about the Clippers one. I think
they should should because when the Clippers first beat him,
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Chris on Opening Night, no Paul George, okay, and they
had a big Remember they started the game because we
went to that game. Remember it was like it was
like fifteen to two or something or whatever the start was,
and they had a fifteen point leading the third quarter
and that right, and I think Lebron in that game, Chris,
if I remember, was it uh seven for twenty something
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seven and then the next game was nine for twenty four.
He didn't shoot seven for sixteen or whatever it was.
But Lebron is struggle for whatever reason against the Clippers
so far, and then both of those games they led,
so they didn't have uh, Paul George in game one,
Clippers still won. Then they got Paul George and they
had their full team. They were down in the first
half and they come back right right, cruising, feeling good.
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Everybody's like feeling good, and then all of a sudden,
that whole thing turns around and it's another win for
the Clippers. And then you start to say to yourself, Chris,
forget about one game. Can they beat them four out
of seven? That's the thing that the third game they
play January twenty eight, Right, that's the next test. And
if the Clipper, if it's essentially the same old song,
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then you're right, you have to start wondering. And again,
we wouldn't do this with most teams because it's the
regular season and we've seen this movie. We've seen teams
get swept in the regular season and then beat the
team in the playoffs. And I wouldn't put anything past Lebron.
It's not like I'm saying they have no chance, no, no, no.
But if they beat you three in a row where
you know it's a big game, your upfeach time you
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play them, and how are you gonna beat them four
out of seven? That's the big thing because there is
a degree of confidence and for the Clippers feeling like
we get this guy, we know, we know we don't right,
and there is a little factor like that team is
tough to play. They do that. It's all flipped on
the Clippers side, because you know, Kawhi is a close off.
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I can't remember who was talking about this, and they
were making a point about to call the closers, and
they do have closers where you feel the three right,
Lou Williams is a closer off the bench. He could
close out a game and got Paul George. But I'm
just saying he has not a village too. But if
but he has that ability, if he gets hot and
he's knocking down shots. All I'm saying is they got
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almost two and a half three guys who can do that.
And then you're looking at the Lakers going and no,
it was it was Eddie House who we were talking
to a house today because Eddie was the one who
was bringing it up. And the other part was, you know,
a d needs somebody to get him the basketball, and
that's a big difference. That's always the thing that can
neutralize a big man because you can't dribble and they're like,
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I don't need anybody else give me the ball. I'm
gonna dribble up. I'm gonna make my own play, right
because he's not shocking. No, I think if he's shocking
there it's easy to get him the ball and you
can't get it. But it's not. He's not shock. He's
not that automatic exactly. And that's what I'm saying. So
so I think Eddie made a great point and I
agree with it. You know what we missed. Depth is
much better, and the Lakers have depth, but they don't
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have the depth that the Clippers have. And here's another
factor in it, robbed. The Clippers just appear to be hungrier.
I mean, look, let's Lebron has got three rings. I'm
not saying he doesn't want more, but it's just human nature.
The Clippers are hungry. Kau Why's hungry? Is his first
year back home in La. You know he wants to
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win a championship for his hometown. Paul George never got
in that ring, probably may have felt like he never
had was gonna have a great chance here again, Harold,
their dogs will all dogs, and you got a great coach.
And it's just what is there not to like? And
the other part, and we talked about it earlier this season, Chris,
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who do you trust the front office to go out
and get a piece if they need a piece? I
like the Clippers front office better. I'm not saying that
the Lakers couldn't do it, but I like that. If
I was grading the two front officers, I would take
the clip. You would put the Clippers ahead of him.
The Lakers. We gotta give him crazy. I'm not saying
that once they lost Kawhid they did a job. But
(08:08):
I'm just saying if i'm if I'm looking at the
makeup of the front office, I would take the Clippers
getting the white guy if they need a piece well,
and the Clippers have players because of the depth, they
got more players they can offer. The Lakers don't have
as many assets to offer either. But the Lakers, look,
if they do the right thing, then I do think
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they have a shot. I'm not going off on the
pick yet. I'm not. I'm still sticking with my pick
right now. No, I don't know, You're not still I'm
just but I'm saying Lebron's gotta be more aggressive when
they're playing the Clippers and a D in the fourth quarter.
Rob gc find out how many points a D had
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on the Christmas Day in the fourth because he has
zero one right, and I don't think he had many. Now,
he didn't do a lot of damna two in the
in the Christmas Day game. He's a big he hasn't
advantage over the Clippers because they have nobody his size
to guard him. You put Zubach on him, he takes
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him outside and kills him from the perimeter. You put
Montres Harold on him, or Kawhi or Paul Georgie and somebody,
he should be able to post them and murder him
on the block. But he hasn't done it yet. And
I was on with as you know, as you said
earlier with Skipp and Shannon, Skip brought up a good
statistic I hadn't known. He said, Lebron in the fourth
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quarter has taken more shots than any player in the league.
But not only that, one hundred and three more shots
a D in the fourth quarters, which shocked. That is
an incredible number. Four points for two points in the
fourth round together the best five players in the world.
So that's use him. And so I think the LA
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need to start just like they've you know, they've they've
got a D playing through injuries because they want to
build up his toughness physically and mentally, where now you
believe I don't have to be ninety five to one
hundred percent healthy to go out there and ball. So
that's why he's playing through all this stuff, because they
want to build him up, get him ready for the
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playoffs and the future, toughen him up. I say, you
have to do the same thing in the fourth quarters.
Feed this man, get him the ball, and get him
used to scoring buckets in the fourth quarter. So when
you face the Clippers, woman, I'm to come down to
the fourth quarters. I agree, And you not only have Lebron,
but you'll have him to help get him ready for it, right,
(10:42):
don't mess around. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays
at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Drew Bledsoe had an
interesting comment on CBS Radio about Brady and Belichick and
(11:02):
the possible breakup of this great tandem. Here's what he
had to say. I do think there's some intrigue, probably
on both sides, to see if they can do it
without the other guy. For Tom to see if he
can win without billing, for Bill to see if he
can win without Tom. I think there's intrigue on both sides.
It's gonna see where the credit really lies in that situation.
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All right, Rob, I'll let you go first. I know
where you're going. Everybody on Earth knows where you're going.
But go ahead. What no I believe that Drew is
right from the standpoint that there is something there about Uh,
if I can win without him, then not that it's
gonna change anybody's legacy, Chris, because I get it. Once
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you won six championships, it ain't he's the goat, the glow.
He could be the gloat. And the point is you're
the only person on the plant that doesn't call him
to go. He's a pleasing more than there's more than
just me, give me a name. I can't Twitter. Can
(12:04):
we go? I don't have enough? You know people lie
on that Twitter. Max Kellerman, can I give you all?
That's a name? You know? How about that? I'm not
sure that. Does he say he's nothing nothing, he's not
a Pats fan. But does he say he's not to go?
Who's he saying is the goat? Joe Martana, You're just
just saying now he's four. No. I think there is
(12:27):
a thing to this that each would love the opportunity
to win without the other, and it would just one
up all the people think that Tom Brady's a system
quarterback and it's all about Bill Belichick. You don't get
gold status or even in the conversation if you're just
a game manager, a system quarterback. But he but he's
(12:48):
won how many sis? No, but he's won two or
three without having a touchdown. I mean, Tom Brady, stop,
give me the RT. It's a short menu. Rod Parker
wins and losses. But they've won super Bowls with time
and the first Super Bowl, tom Brady had one touchdown?
(13:09):
Did he win? Last year he had none? Did he win?
And I'm just telling you that people looking go tom
Brady just happened to be lucky in the right spot
at the right time. Any hold on when he got
five hundred and five hundred and five yards a playoff
record against Atlanta or no, that was phil Philadelphia had lost,
then you don't give him credit? Well, but you don't
you praise him for that if you're gonna kill him
(13:31):
for not throwing the touchdown in the Super because it
ain't about yards, it's about points. He left points on
the field. That's why they lost. Tom Brady left points
on the field. But anyone answer for everything I do
not a good one, but so so I do believe
there's some truth to that that they would love, because
then it would be that's the tidebreaker. You got two
guys who were together. They did all the winning together. Right,
(13:53):
so finally if they separate, right, Christa size that he
wants to have a solo show. He didn't want to
the couple anymore. And then you know, I bring in
Rob Gara and uh he's the f and the show
flops and the show like Swords, we get better numbers.
Then what would you say? It wouldn't be about Rob,
it would be about me and we finally got rid
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of the dead. Wait, you know what I'm saying. So
I do believe Rob g What do you think? You're
staying me? And Alex you're staying me and DJ Alex
Tysher you're staying You're staying. But you see, my point
is that no, no, But when when people break up
and if somebody else has success, then you're gonna say
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it was about this guy compared to the other guy.
Tom Brady comes to LA and plays for the Chargers
and nothing happens, and and he looks like he has
the last two playoffs. People would go Tom Brady, really,
you know what, he just was a system quarterback without
without Bill Bill, he's forty three. No, because the forty
doesn't matter. Nobody wants to hear that enough enough enough.
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Nobody wants to hear madness. Rob, this is madness. Tom Brady,
I don't believe has this itch to go improve. He
can do it without Bill Belichick. Why stay with him
for twenty years at below market value money if you're
so eager to get away improve something. I mean, seriously,
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he doesn't have that to prove, and so he wants
to stay in New England. I really believe that. I'm
not saying it's gonna have let me finish ahead. I
just want you to believe he wants to stay in
New England, but they may not want to keep him,
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and that that's kind of what it's looking like at
this Why not he's to go? You just said he's
to go? You want to keep two years old? Now,
on the flip side, I do believe that Bill Belichick
wants to get rid of Brady and show part of
it because he you know, he's forty two years old.
He knows he's gonna just keep declining. But part of it, also,
(16:09):
I believe, is to prove that he can win it
without Tom Brady because guess what. Guess what? And this
is where I take issue with you, Rob, saying it
would be a tiebreaker. There's no tie. There's no tie, folks.
Bill Belichick has been without Tom Brady. And I've utmost
(16:32):
respect for Bill Belichick's coaching ability. How about his cheated right,
I don't respect that, But he's a he's a great coaches,
the great coach and maybe the greatest ever. I think
that the cheating makes it tough, but he's probably the
greatest ever. That's said. He's been without Tom Brady for
seven years, folks. You can't wash that away. And he's
(16:56):
made the playoffs one time. Chris Well, no, stop, let me.
These are facts, right. I know you don't like listening
to facts. I'll give you. See. I know you want
to kick feelings up in here, but I put facts
on the airwaves. All right now, listen one and six
without Tom Brady, and look, I will give Belichick this.
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There's no doubt he's a better coach now than he
was earlier in their career. And five of those seasons
came in Cleveland, where I actually did think he was
a pretty good coach. They didn't like him in Cleveland,
they fired him. He made the playoffs once out of
five years. But here's the real. This is what really
stings those that want to say Belichick is the key,
(17:41):
more so than Brady. Belichick's first year in New England,
he went five and eleven and five and eleven, and
you didn't have a slug playing quarterback. You had Drew Bledso, folks,
you had Drew bled Soul. And then the first year
(18:05):
that Tom Brady starts, remember bled Soul got hurt. Okay,
they were oh and two, oh and two when Tom
Brady took over after bled So got hurt. And then
Brady leads them to an overall they go eleven and
three the rest of the way, and then they win
(18:29):
the Super Bowl and the rest is history. That's it, Rob,
There's no tie. Rob Parker with the Tide talk, here
we go. Bill Belichick has already wanted the eyes of
a lot of people when you look at the Patriots. Okay,
and what did he's been able to do? What about?
Oh God, just I'm giving you something. Without Tom Brady
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went to they want. They were eleven and five with
Chris they won eleven games without what the playoffs. They
don't care if they went fifteen and one. If they
don't make the playoffs. It's Ben too, it didn't count.
Here's the second part. Garoppolo's rise is perfect proof that
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Bill Belichick had his draft. He drafted him, He had
him as Brady's replacement, and he would be right where
they needed the Patriots to be ready to go on
for the next ten years. Had they listened to Bill
Belichick and had they gotten rid of Tom Brady a
year too early rather than the years a couple of
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years too early than a couple of years late. So
Bill Belichick is the right guy. He understands, he knows
what he's doing. Bob Kraft let his feelings get in
the way, and that's why he kept Tom Brady around
because he was all in his feelings. Yes, Bob Kraft,
you can't live in the past. So what it might
have been good to you in the past, It's over, baby,
(19:58):
Move on to the next piece, I mean, next person.
You know what I'm saying. Are you going just let
me save you from yourself and jump up? But Garoppolo's
rise is a perfect example. Hold on. What they did
by keeping Tom Brady was derailed Bill Belichick's future. And
now Bill Belichick knew what he was doing. He could
(20:20):
have had his guy one another Super Bowl or two
without Tom Brady and could have been there. He was
already there. Well, look you disagree with that, Yes, I'll
give you that. Garoppolo clearly was the air apparent. Right.
What this is where I question you and I look,
Garoppolo's being great? What is he rod? He's twenty and
(20:42):
three years, He's only lost like a handful of game.
Helic up his record as a starter. But it's something great.
You count going out with the with the porn storm public?
Is that an ella? Was that an l or win?
It ain't he got an ell? Yeah, I'm just saying
for taking one to a restaurant in public. He's twenty
(21:04):
one five. Here's my issue though, with what you said.
We don't know yet what he's going to do on
the big stage. No, it mattered because what what was
it about Tom Brady that helped make him to go?
He was clutched? How many game winning drives, whether they
ended in a field goal, that it's part of the game.
(21:28):
Stop it. It's like criticizing me for hitting game winning
free throws rather than the game winning three points. It
doesn't matter. It's like the Carmelo basket tie game. Anybody
can make that shot. Well it no, they game winning
drives are what Tim Brady is known for. You can't
tell me guarantee. You can't guarantee me that the Patriots
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would have won the super Bowl last year with Jimmy
Garoppolo instead of Tim Brady. Why Tom Brady didn't do
anything in that game? Go back less than two hundred
yards and he had well no touchdowns, one pick in
a fumble he beat. I think Jimmy Garoppolo could have
done the same exact thing. It's different on the big stage, drob.
And that's my boot. Now if Garoppolo you you think
(22:13):
they're gonna lose the Minnesota Yeah, but that's because I
like gonna praise Garoppolo. He's gotta do. It might not
be the reason that they lose, though, What if their
defense is bad? It's about w's you see. That's your
favorite quote short menu until you're boxed into a corner,
usually by me. I mean, seriously, though, Jimmy Garoppolo, Let's
(22:34):
see what he can do in the playoffs before we
crown him. You want to crown him, crown him. I'm
not crowning him, but I might. That's all I'm saying
with the crowd him the crowned her ass. Tom Brady
wears the crown, Rob Parker, don't you forget that either.
And I'm telling you the facts are with with Brady
over Belichick, and Brady's that that it's you know what,
(22:57):
will say he's old. Just like we said about Michael Jordan.
They didn't messed up his legacy when he went to run.
Say anybody's legacy was gonna be messed up. When it's
a bad look, it's a desperate Did we say did
we ever say that about Jordan? Nobody? He didn't look
as bad as he had put up decent numbers. Brady looks.
Brady looks awful. The last two players, they won twelve games.
(23:17):
I said, the last two playoff games. He has no touchdown.
Really the defense gave up fourteen points at home and
they couldn't win. They won the Super Bowl in spite
of Brady. Stop it six rings anyway, You're turned away
in eight, seven, seven, ninety nine five. Two of Brady's
first three Super Bowls under two hundred yards passing, and
(23:37):
it was about Adam Venetarian. Wasn't Brady the luckiest of
all time? Chris go look at the stats. He won
two of the six Super Bowls without throwing the touchdown.
Now is we about to go let's go untrusting you
get a second win? Because Rob G's whis brittany Oka
say nothing. He's working on a shop talk. Fox Sports
(23:58):
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(24:21):
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We do this every single Thursday forty five pm. So
we discuss something that happened outside of the world of sports.
Because you know, we're very well rounded individuals. We got
other interests. And this week's story comes to us courtesy
of the Golden Globes. Now, you know that Hollywood is
very woke. Oh yeah, very woke, and they kind of
stepped it up even more so this week. They decided
(24:45):
that they were going to offer a all vegan meal plan.
And here's the thing. As far as I can tell,
they did not offer any alternatives. They one who wanted
a steak or a chicken or a bison meat like
the Rocks. So here's the question. Do you think the
Golden Globe took it too far by forcing veganism on
the rest of the celebrities. Yes, yes, this is the problem.
(25:10):
I like having to having an option, but but where's
the option for the people like to eat meat? I mean,
the problem with the political politically correct crowd is they're
as intolerant as the people that they claim are intolerant. Right,
everybody's got to believe their way and do what they want, Like,
there's nothing wrong with eating meat. There were soldiers there.
(25:32):
They wanted meat. DJ Alex Tysher he's our resident. Yes,
come on, does this thing? We do our thing? Alex? Right?
You you even see this as a problem, don't you?
All right? So, yes, I'm plant based. I've been for
about three years now. I've made the transition and I'm
never going back. Once you see how your body changed before,
So once you go plant, you never go back. The
(25:54):
statement I've ever heard rob Um. Here's the thing, though,
surprising to most, is that I'm going to side with
you guys on who the thing is that I have
the biggest issue with most plant based eaters nowadays, especially
because it's more of a cultural growth and it's supposed
to be more of the popping things. And basically is
it's because people now that I've noticed are vegans, they
(26:16):
predominantly have to overtell you that they're vegans and have
to push it upon you and other people. I don't
believe in that. Just do your thing, you don't have to.
I've noticed myself because we've had a horde of interns
come through here, is that they're very interested in my
lifestyle because I don't talk about it or go above
and beyond to show it to them. They're interested on
how I act because of it, and they see those
big shopping beds and they want to know what you're doing.
(26:38):
Back then, rob G, where are you? You know what?
Look at you? First of all, you don't even know
what is Every time I walk into our meeting, you're
eating either a hamburger, chicken wings, pizza, and your husky wing.
(26:59):
The reason and why because I would never pay myself
to get an all vegan meal, but if if I'm
gonna get a free meal, and if I gotta try it,
I'd rather not pay for it. So I'm sad that
they're doing it because I'm not gonna pay for it myself.
Not all you in a long way for that way,
we're in a long way. Would you like to hear
what's on the menu, because I have right in front
of me the only go ahead chilled golden beat soup,
(27:21):
no thank you, King, oyster, mushroom quote unquote scallops or
their face tallops. And for dessert vegan opera dome featuring
caramelized that he's on. That sounds where did cheesecain good vegan?
Aren't they? I mean they have dairy. I get that.
Chris Chris Vegan donuts, the Chrisma Chris. They don't have me.
(27:46):
I've been fooled by veganism. Christall eat like twenty vegan donuts,
thinking that they they don't put I thought I was
doing great cookies. I'm gaining weight and I'm like, what's
going on? They get you, man? Hey. The only good
thing about the Golden Globe is that they did in
the big gift bags that they give out and ready
(28:09):
they did give everybody a pair of planties. So that
was so the women they love that you just can't
help yourself. Now, that would be funny on stage, No planties,
I could tell the story of I'm investing, No, this
was this. I'm surprised you're not gonna open mind because
you did try to go vegan for like a week
and a half, so that's why I'm surprised you're not
(28:31):
with it. And then he had a hamburger with hair
on it. That was not with forcing it on people
as I mean, you can talk about it, you can
evangelize on it, but you don't have to force it
on them, like you know what. By doing that, there
are now a few more cows walking around with nowhere
to go that I'm not buying the house to not
go in to college. Their lives are ruined because they
(28:54):
were supposed to go to slaughter and now they got
to walk around for another month with nothing to do.
All right, you lost me there, or maybe they get
turned into some air Jordans or something, all right, and
vegans on their feet
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.