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January 10, 2020 116 mins

It's The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob debate which former Oklahoma City Thunder teammate was most out of line in their Twitter beef last night: Kendrick Perkins or Kevin Durant?, discuss whether Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson is under the most pressure heading into the divisional round of the NFL playoffs, make their official NFL playoff picks for this weekend's games, and much more! Plus, Luka Jones from the hit Hulu show 'Shrill' stops by our Celebrity Corner, and additional appearances by Super Bowl champion Will Blackmon and MGM Grand Director of Race and Sports Lamarr Mitchell

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eight minutes. But we want to get this show started

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off and started off right. Yes. Wow, it is a
birthday from my partner, my good friend of twenty seven years.
I've known right for twenty seven years. And here's how
old he is. That's not even half his life. Wow. No,
that is crazy. Happy birthday, brother, Thank you and thanks

(01:29):
for the gift. Yes, I got here's my gift I
got right. Please, I was I was stunned by the gift.
Jealous what you thought once you when you got it?
Were you surprised? Did you laugh? Were you No? I
was like, this is a little different for Chris, who
is kind of against a man going to a spun
getting kind you never done it right? And I told

(01:52):
you I was gonna send you to the place where
I go, uh once a month and let you just
see what she does. So that's what I did get
you the Burke Williams right across the street from the studio.
So I got a manicure, pedicure, a foot massage or
back massage, whichever you like. Wow and yeah, man, so

(02:14):
only only thing I didn't see on there. I didn't
see a happy ending. But you have to cut that out.
You get you. But I'm always criticis size and a
certain owner in the NFL. And here you go. But
I know, man, happy birthday, enjoy the massage and uh yeah,

(02:35):
I think that's a grab it in a sweat. No,
I get it. We do it all the time. That's
that's like what made me get what I got you
for Christmas? Something different. But thank you so much, really,
and you know what, Chris, I fifty six years old,
and I guess the greatest part of it all is
where I am in life. You know, I keep telling

(02:56):
we talk about this all the time. I'll tell you
how happy I am, fulfilled and contempt and free of
stress and just I'm just living. Do you know what
I mean? You know, taking a trip once in a
lifetime trip this past year, you know, Antarctic, Yeah, the Antarctica,
and just hanging out with family and friends. When I

(03:17):
take these little trips and just go out and go
to lunch and go to a ball game or whatever.
I love that stuff. I'm gonna go to Vegas tomorrow
and spend a couple of days. We're gonna go out
tonight to La Rooftop and just have a couple of
libations and conversation. And I'm cool with that. So I'm
very happy. Never been happier before. Probably the only other

(03:38):
happy day was my wedding day, when I was the
happiest man in the world my wedding day. And this
is I'm in that. No, I'm just saying, but that's
where I was. That's you're in. You're in a place where, unfortunately, unfortunately,
a lot of people may not get to never get
to Chris. I know, I know, like I'm happy. You know,

(04:00):
a lot of people look back at high school as
the glory days or college as the glory not when
you get old you've been blessed. Where I feel like
my life is getting better and better. I'm happy with
where it is. That's exactly where I'm at. Not a
ton of people are there, So that's great that you're there,
not at this age where you're looking at it and saying, hey,
I do believe my best eleven twelve years, Chris are

(04:23):
ahead of me. Considering all that I've done, I still
think I have twelve better years coming and that and
that's a that inspires me, that keeps me going. So
thanks to everybody on social media. You don't know how
many friends and family members and whatnot have the uh
set me messages and whatnot. Very very nice. I'm thrilled.

(04:45):
Thank you so much. All right, well this has been
nice and happy, and let me welcome to the crew,
to crew, and then we'll get started. Uh yes, we
let's welcome into our couple. Crew wouldn't be able to
do this fine radio show without them. Rob g of courses.
Our producer, Alex is our engineer. Steve de Seger is

(05:05):
that the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated throughout the program.
Elijah is our social media guru, one of the best
in the business. They're all on the other side of
the glass. Come on, chrisp sort on this funky flashback Friday.
Let's kick some out. Let's do it all right. Speaking
of kicking some tail, I think there's a couple of
former teammates in the NBA who would like to kick

(05:27):
each other's butts, Kevin Durant and Kendrick Perkins. And let
me say this first of all. You know, obviously I
know both of them. We Perks been on the show
with Student Studio. What we like. Perk is a great guy.
You know, covered him even before he became an analyst.
I obviously have a relationship with Kevin Durant. He and

(05:47):
I got into a social mediatif right when you said
you didn't have his number but you were texting him
by M and all that. Yeah, and um, we were
going back and forth at it with that. But so
I know both of these guys, you know fairly well. Uh,
And I gotta be honest, even though we're gonna talk
about it because it's news, but it's it's kind of

(06:08):
sad to see guys that were friends and teammates go
at each other like this. We really don't see this
very often. No, not like this, and not publicly because
thing is for real. Well, let's let's explode the context
first for those that might not know. Why can't you
pick up the phone say say I saw something on Twitter,

(06:30):
Chris you said about me? Rather than going on Twitter
and making it public, I would just pick up the phone, Chrise,
What do you mean by that? Because I didn't like it?
And then you you don't have the chance to say
that's why I didn't mean it like that, or I
apologize if I offended you, I'll take it down right.
So here's the deal. Kendrick Perker, who's now is making
a lot of noise as an analyst NBA analysts over

(06:52):
espn uh he said, he said, came out and tweeted
that Russell Westbrook is the greatest player to play for
Oklahoma City. Now he's clarified himself, and I believe him.
He's not saying Westbrook is the best player ever to
wear a Thunder uniform. Obviously that's Kevin Durant. He is

(07:14):
saying that, and he called him this, mister thunder is
Russell westbrook He tweeted it. He got some pushback and
he responded, and that's how this whole thing got going.
But Rob g read the tweet from the fan who
tweeted at Perk when Perk said that mister thunder is

(07:36):
Russell Westbrooks. Right now, we're back difficulty. Well, Chris real
quick correction. It wasn't even a fan who started reporter
for the Celtics. He responded to Perk's tweet by saying suggesting,
I think Russ walked right into that door called the

(07:58):
second round of the playoffs through straight times, implying he
couldn't get out of the first round when Durant was gone, right,
right right, And Perk responded, well, Katie lost in the
second round without Russ when I was there, So what
does that mean? And then the rest, as they say,
is history. Yes, And then that's when Kad got involved,

(08:19):
and Kad, to me, Perk's comment is nothing untoward, nothing mean.
He just said, hey, okay, yeah, but Katie lost in
the second round. I remember recovered that series when they
lost in the second round when Russ was hurt. But
and then Kadi to me, Katie took it to the
lower level when he said, read what he said his

(08:40):
tweet robed. He said, yeah, and our starting center at
Kendrick Perkins. So he added him twice there average the
whopping two and three during that series. You played hard, though,
Champ lol. So see that. To me, Kad is the
one that brought it to the ugly level. Must see
here's what I just agree with that because the reporter

(09:01):
just said that Russell Westbrook couldn't get past the right
he kept running to the door, couldn't get it past
the first first round. But did he mention he didn't
mention KD. K D was introduced in the conversation by Perk. No,
but the the whole point was Perk was saying, no,
but up k D that Russ is misunder over Ka

(09:22):
what I'm saying. But but his name wasn't mentioned until
Perkins went out to say that to say something about KD.
And that's why k D jumped in. I know what
you're saying, but he wasn't like he had a choice
of two people. He introduced basically knocking k D and
that's why the state and why he he was like,

(09:43):
don't come at me about Russ not being mister thunder
because he got beat in the first round. Kyd got
beat in the second round. So now so what's that mean.
That's what he was saying. Well, there's a difference between
the first and second round. And I think that's all
he was saying was that even without KD, he never
It's not like he he went to the Western Conference
finals or something, but couldn't get to the Western Conference

(10:05):
finals without rest. I mean, we need to just make
our points. Your point go ahead because you you think
Perk is in the wrong, and I think when I
think rest, let's explain the rest. Because after kad said
you average two and three, that's when Perk went nuclear.
That's right, he said, boys, stop, You did the weakest

(10:25):
move in NBA history up on a team three one
in the Western Finals and then you go and join
them the following season. Real heart of a champion, right there,
Kadie fires back. Week is starting at center playing real
minutes with no production. Should have worked on your skills
as much as I did. And then Kendrick Perk has
just finished it off. He said, that's fine. You worked
that hard and still to jump to a seventy three

(10:46):
and nine team. Truth be told, you don't even feel
like a real champion. You have a hard time sleeping
that night, know when you took the cowards way out? Now,
come on, man, that that's some hard stuff right there,
even from a guy who's working in the media. Yeah.
I don't even think if he said that on television,
I think that there would be like, Okay, we can't
be that personal. You know, as a that's personal. So

(11:08):
you think if he sat on ESPN and they asked him,
what do you think about Kd's move to the calling
somebody a coward is I'm asking you you could say
that you think media members essentially still, Yeah, Steve, and
it was weak. It was the weakest one thing punk.
What do you say punk moves? I think I think
once you get into those descriptions, I'm just saying, this

(11:30):
is just me, Chris and I I've been I'm tough
on a lot of people, but I try not to
make it too personal like that. When you're calling somebody,
uh a coward um from the standpoint of something that
they he's saying cowardly moved to coward's way out, took
the cowards where I mean, technically he didn't, you know.
But here's my thing, Rob, and you and I have

(11:51):
talked about this. First of all, I'm a guy that
has never killed Kevin Durant for going to Golden State.
I killed the move because I thought it was bad
for the league. He's a free agent, he could do
whatever anything about him. You didn't say anything like this
is weak. This My point was it was bad for
the league, that that that's not what a guy should

(12:11):
do with that talent, who was up three to one.
It wasn't like he had gone to the finals with
that team I'm talking about. But I'm just saying no.
But I'm saying but I didn't. My thing was I
thought it was bad for the league. The reason I
didn't criticize him was one people had been telling me
he really likes the way Golden State played, so and
obviously you had a hold entirely different playing style with

(12:35):
Oklahoma City with Westbrook that probably it was gonna be
tough to win the championship that way. So I I
also thought he was going there because of the way
they shared the ball and played unselfishly and stuff like
that too, So that was part of it. But the
bigger part for me is that I knew because I
had seen it with Lebron, and granted, what Katie did

(12:57):
was quote unquote worse. If you think they're negative, then
what Lebron did when he went to Miami. Because Lebron's
team wasn't ready set, even though it was stacked, it
hadn't played together having won seventy three games, hadn't won
a championship and all that. But I saw it with
Lebron James. He gets demolished when he goes to Miami.

(13:17):
Everybody was killing him. Once he starts winning, though they
praised him. Nobody said at all, but it was easy
to win with him what you expect. No, everybody, including
all the people that killed him, praised him. And I
said the same thing. I was on Sports Center that
day with Stephen A. I said, everybody killing Kevin Durant
right now, when he is a champion a year from now,

(13:41):
a two time champion, maybe a three time champion, maybe
the finals MVP, everybody's gonna be praising the same people
killing him will be praising him. And that is exactly
what happened. So I didn't want to be a part
of that because I'm like, I'm not gonna sit here
and kill him and then praise him. I just think
it was because we knew he was gonna win and knew,

(14:03):
but I didn't like. I just didn't like the move
for where the league was headed. Because I always said
Lebron started it and the Warriors finished it. That's really
what happened. There's truth today, right, I mean in that,
And so Lebron can't be mad you went down to
Miami to stack up a team and then when they
do it to you, you're gonna be what, Oh, this
is unfair. So he got some obstacles, right. But but

(14:28):
but I think if Lebron didn't do that, I don't know.
I don't think it would have ever entered Cade's mind, honestly,
And you know, I think he would have been like,
there's no way I can go to God. I totally
agree Chris, and I believe that if Lebron never did that, Uh,
a lot of guys would have never left their teams.
I really believe that that they wouldn't. I just don't.
It just wasn't done, no no question. But my point

(14:50):
with Perk is just that. And you know I call
I called la durantham assault, the most sensitive of all time.
And he's very sting. He needed to jump into this
when his name. He couldn't help it. This is who
But he didn't. He shouldn't have jumped into it. Perk
went off on him, and that's what happened. And Rob,

(15:10):
here's what I say to you, because you say it
Perk went too hard. You and I always talk about this.
We've talked to athletes about this. If you get into
this business as an analyst and you want to be good,
you have to speak the truth. You can't let your allegiances.
Oh that was my teammate, that's my coach. I might
want to get back in the league on the bench

(15:31):
as a coach somewhere. I can't be too critical. I know.
I don't look at this as as him reporting or something.
Being an analyst. I'm looking at this is just this
is like like kids stuff where you're on social media,
like just just ripping at somebody when you don't have
to do that. If he was your teammate, Orf Kevin
Durant had an issue with it, you can pick up

(15:53):
the phone and talk about it. We always talk about
this all the time. Just because somebody sticks a microphone
or ask you a question don't mean you have to
add to the question or you have to you know,
go at it. And I just think that there was
another way Chris he could have handled given the fact
that he knows that KDS sensitive. You know what. Perk
was on the jump today on ESPN he said he

(16:14):
could have called me, You could have like, I just think, Look,
I'm not I'm not picking the side, but I'm saying
I think KD was the one that took it put
in the ugliness first, Okay, I don't think Kirk Perk's
comments initially were that bad. And then obviously he went nuclear.
All right, whose side are you on in this little Twitter? Beef?
Kevin Durant? This was a Twitter side of beef Kendrick

(16:37):
Perkins A seven seven ninety nine on Fox A seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine k D
or KP. We'll continue the conversation with you. Next, it's
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(17:00):
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(17:21):
get to you, guys, KD or KP. Who you went
Max from Georgia. Welcome to the Eye Couple. Well, I
think it's sad because this is Russell Westbrook's night. But
having said that, I'm gonna roll with KP on this one.
I think you gotta separate KD the person from KD
the player. And if you do that, then Katie's no

(17:42):
questionably the best player to ever wear that jersey. But
when I think a thunder, I think a Russell west
tho I think of so. Having said that, I think
they both jabbed at each other. They're both being a
little bit personal. But I gotta say I think KP
handled it the most adult, like if I had to
kick a side and that being sad. Happy birthday, Rob
parker Man, thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Max.

(18:03):
I get your point. The only problem I think is
the what do you say three two points and three
two two and three two and three compared to like
the the opening the sword and pouring salted it about
the move to Golden State, where he's sensitive about it

(18:24):
because he got criticized from everybody. Right, So I just
think that, you know, it's like Kate, It's like it's
like you said about hold On, It's like you said
about lebron Kad started it, finished it, and then Kap
Kendrick Perkins finished it. Yeah, but right, what Katy said
was rough, but not as rough as what Kay Kendrick
Perkins said. Let's go to Jabril in Atlantic on with

(18:47):
Chris and Rob. You know, I'm I'm k on this
one called Katie. He got a track river of always
getting too sensitive about a little store, even like arguable
ends on like random people on Instagram and Twitter and
Joe Brill. That's why I call him the Massault. He's
the most sensitive of all time. He is and when

(19:09):
I and when I think about okay, see, I think
about Whistbrook because even when Katie lives, he stayed down,
you know, so that means a lot to the fans. Right, okay?
And basketball all right? In basketball in general, he's definitely
mister thunder There's no and and Katie is a better player,
but mister thunder right, no doubt about it. All right, Thanks,

(19:32):
appreciate it. How about Keith and Peoria, Illinois. You're on
the odd couple of fox sportuated? What's up, Keith? What's
how you Fellers doing? How you doing today? Rob hap
his birthday? Man, I'm fifty six too, are you? That's
a perfect forget Keith? Right? Great? Ain't great enough of Fellers?
It is? And you know what, I don't know nothing

(19:52):
about that. Appreciated Chris, And you hope you do it.
I will. I will, like Rob. Oh, yeah, you get
when you get there. You appreciate being fifty. People go like, oh,
you want anybody to mention your age. I'm like, dude,
I'm happy to be fifty, so I'm happy to be
fifty six. I'll be fifty seven in April, though. Don't
that's great age? Buddy? Hey, get into the subjects. Kat

(20:16):
I would go with him on this one. I told
people back before Kevin Durant left O Kase he wasn't
happy there. The Golden State thing was going perfect unselfishness.
That was his type of style of play. What was
one of the main reasons he went anyway? That selfishness did?
He has though, he needs to get over that. He

(20:37):
needs to get away from that little sensitive grabbing and
stuff like that. Lead the media alone. You're a great
kd you know that. Don't let anybody take that away
from here to make it small in yourself at sixty eleven,
you're great at what you do. Keep it on one percent.
Keith and I don't. I don't. I don't get it
like you got money, you got fame, you got championships.

(20:59):
Somebody are you on Twitter or somebody? Everybody's not gonna
like you. I generally just don't mind if he's on
social media. No can still perform and if it makes
him happy, I'm fine. You took it there and somebody
hit you with a haymaker. That's kind of what happened
to me. Eric in Texas, You're on with Chris and
Rob guys. You're the best thing that's happened. I think

(21:22):
you're the next one up for a morning show here.
All right, my man, thank you your mouth to gods
read the first things first. I think that's gonna be
on next right now? Wow, all right, brother, what's your
poet to it? I'm going with KP on this. Also
Durant when he was an OKAC going deep in those
playoff series, he didn't have what it took. He was scared.

(21:46):
He turned the ball over, fall down. We were at
a lot of those games. He just couldn't cut the mustard.
He's all show. He stole that little shimmy from that
guy in Major League two. I'm with Perkins all the
way way. Um, if he would have had what it took,
they would have won. But he had to go to
the All Star team. He just needs to keep his

(22:07):
mouth shut and go get it done. All right. I've
said that too, right, Like, look, just win gracefully because
this is too easy for people. If you go as
somebody asked, all they gotta say, right. And then one
last one, Chris and Louisiana. You're in the couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Chris? Hey, your first time caller. Guys,
I love the show. Thank you, Happy Birthday, Rob. I

(22:30):
just gotta I gotta agree on this one, all right.
I feel like I feel like Kendrick didn't have any
animosity coming at all. He was just kind of trying
to prove his point whenever somebody tried to ask otherwise.
So that's why he brought up Kevin. Kevin took it
the wrong way, and I just think his um, he's
just too sensitive. And that's kind of where it all started.
If if if they if they were like the guy

(22:52):
mentioned both names at first and then asked Kendrick uh
to like pick one or something, and then Katie jumped in,
maybe I could get it a little bit better. But
it was the first time he introduced. Everybody knew it
was either Russ or kd. It wasn't like it might
have been Kendrick Perky, isn't he? Nick Collinson got his
jersey Room two and three? Is that it? I thought

(23:14):
they were talking about his uniform number. Oh, I'm gonna
say that. I'm gonna tell person say that, all right.
He was a Clippers fan before it became Shrendy. One
of the stars from Shrill on Hulu, Luca Jones joins
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(23:37):
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Go get Hulu. And uh he is next on Celebrity Corner. God,

(23:59):
I know for the odd couple celebrity corners, it's actor
Luca Jones. We want to welcome in him to him
into Celebrity Corner with the eye cap. Luca, how are you.
I'm good. How are you guys doing. We're doing great.
Thanks for joining us. Yes, yes, indeed. Now look we

(24:19):
we heard that you were a Clippers fan before it
was trendy. And I gotta say this, Luca, it's a
lot of people saying that right now. I mean, I'm
not sure if I can believe you, because all of
a sudden you got all these Clippers fans coming out
of the woods. So Luca, you gotta prove that you
were sitting in the section by yourself in the old day,
and you gotta prove give me some names. I don't

(24:40):
want to hear Chris Paul Blake, Griffin's bad. I don't
want to hear Kawhia Pauldre give me some names. When
you were start, I came to LA and ninety seven,
and like soon after then, I was watching Michael Ooa,
Candy and and Darius Smiles a all those guys playing

(25:01):
because they were the ticket to get. I mean, they
were just easier to get, you know, and like they
were super exciting. They were that everybody thought that young
team you had Darius Miles, Quentin Richardson who was coaching?
Was that Brow? What? Maybe? No? I think I think

(25:22):
Gentry might have been coached at that time. Gentry maybe
done Levy at some point maybe, But yeah, but hey,
you're right, and people thought that was gonna be a
hot young team and obviously it didn't. It didn't. What
was that Luca right here? Okay, now we can hear. Hey, hey,
let me ask you about no problem. Let me let

(25:43):
me ask you about this. Uh, Kendrick Perkins, Kevin Durant
be O goodness, what do you make of that? Whose
side are you on? I'm just thought, I'm honestly on
the of that happening more on Twitter because it was
one of the most entertaining things I thought yesterday. I mean,

(26:05):
that was so exciting, but like to watch to watch
these like big guys like get in there and like
have it out in front of people's kind of fun.
And I'm sure those guys are both okay, So you
think I don't I but I don't know if i'm
the thing that hurts me and I agree obviously is entertaining.

(26:27):
Gives us something to talk about as great as a fan,
But it does hurt me a little that these guys
were good friends. I'm not saying they were best friends,
but they were. They were good friends, and it seems
like that is in question now. I mean, I'm sure
it's gonna be a while before they talked to each other,
so that's a little bothersome, but hey, they both went

(26:47):
there and it is what it is. Do you how
do you feel? Do you agree with Perkins when he
said that KDS moved to Golden State was weak and
he's not a real champion. No, No, I mean I
get that that's like a very common take or whatever. Uh,
I understand that, like there's a sense and I mean,

(27:09):
who am I to judge like Stady, but like there's
a there's a sense in which like, of course he
chose to to join a situation that was easier than
some other people that have won championships, but like, uh, no,
I mean, I think he devil is best for him,
and it seemed like the Okase situation understandably just wasn't

(27:31):
the right chemistry for him, I think. And I'm glad
that go ahead. No, no, you go ahead. I'm glad
that I'm I'm glad that he's like, but now let
me try Brooklyn. Let mean, you know, let me go.
Let me show that that's not all I'm about, that
he's done winning champions and he's not, and that you

(27:52):
and Luca, your point is so well taken, because if
it was just about the easy way out, he wouldn't
have gone to Brooklyn, even though kayle We was going.
So so I think that's one thing. But I know
it's a soft spot, and we know that he's he's
a pretty sensitive What do you think about the Lakers
and and and and uh I picked the Clippers to

(28:13):
win the championship. Do you like what the Lakers have?
I know you're a Clippers fan, but how much do
you fear them? Oh? I mean as a Clippers fan,
I fear the Lakers definitely. I mean I've been I
was the both the opening game where the Clippers hunted
the Lakers and uh and also the Christmas Day game,

(28:34):
and those were two of the best regular season games
I've ever been to. So you must be a season
ticket holder. I'm a season ticket holder on the Clippers,
and then I found a way into the Lakers. Nice.
You're a real basketball guy right there. I mean, I
got it. This is what's happening in LA right now.

(28:54):
It's so exciting. I think that there are two title contenders,
not just in the same city, but in the same building.
That's crazy and any basketball fan that lives in LA
should be so happy and excited about that, I think.
But yeah, I mean I think the Lakers could beat
the Clippers. I think the Clippers should be favorite thus

(29:15):
in a seven game series. Right now, they're deeper and
all that they've won too, they've lost euro to the
crop down rival. Well, what do you guys think? We
are joined by Luca Jones, who plays Ryan on the
Hulu TV show Shrill. I agree with you. I mean,
I've said before in the preseason. I think the Clippers
should be the favorites. They're the best team on paper.

(29:37):
I picked the Lakers to overcome them. But yeoh, they're
right now. They're nipped neck and neck. I know the
Lakers have a much better record, but the Clippers and
the Lakers are clearly the two best teams in the West. Hey, Luca,
let's switch the baseball and the Dodgers. All right, I
know you're happy they went to the World Series a
couple of years in the road to Nationals. Brohy, don't
they want to spend any money? Yeah, this is where

(29:58):
you right there, Chris. They don't get anybody like that.
They haven't won a World Series since nineteen eighty eight. Freedman,
who's their general manager team president, came from Tampa Bay
when they didn't have any money. And the Dodgers never
get anybody. How do you fee are you frustrated as
a Dodger fan? Well, I mean I'm frustrated at like

(30:19):
not winning. I'm also frustrated as like I went to
both those World Series, especially it's twenty seventeen one. I'm
frustrated that it was stolen from us by Euston because
because of the cheat. Yeah, yeah, I mean that seems
to be going around. It does seem to be going around.
But like I mean, I think, look, as long as

(30:41):
they're keeping us winning divisions and putting us in a
situation situation to like get to the World Series, you're
not gonna get the World Series every year. Even when
you get there, you're not gonna win. We should have
won in twenty seventeen. How is our title? But I
think they're gonna get us back. Now, will you do?
Are you there when Washington, you know, won the five

(31:02):
game series? Were you at the fifth game when people
at Dodgers did you walk out? When? When? Uh? Uh? When?
Who was it hit the Grand Slam? I just forgot
uh when? I never I never walk out, But I
don't remember who. I think you Howard Kendrick. Howard Kendrick
hit the Grand Slam. I was wondering if you walked out.

(31:24):
I don't know. I stayed through when they when they
kept playton kersh I and and I was with everybody
else like we're off the start and going like why
they have to keep him in, Like I mean, he's
our guy, but like to take him out once to
get this job done and use the best picture for
for for every every hitter and get out of that
game and get into the next series. That that's why

(31:46):
I felt like a big missed opportunity for us. All Right, Luca,
we got very first. We got about thirty seconds forty
five seconds left. I want to ask you, obviously you're
an actor. Now you you got your pH d in philosophy,
but gave it up to pursue acting. I mean, you
gotta tell us about your journey. I mean that that's
a heck of a move. I came out of here.

(32:08):
I thought I was going to be an actor and
it wasn't working out. A long time ago. I just
went back to school and then like I went to
USC for my PhD, and then uh, somewhere in the
middle of that, I started performing on the side and
I got really, really lucky and started getting hired. And
so once I finished with a PHC, I was like, well,

(32:29):
this is why I came out here back, so let's
go for it. That's great, man, very lucky. That's great.
I'm thinking about I've been thinking about it the last
month or so of getting my PhD at USC. So
I am I'm no I'm thinking about it and uh,
what time. Yeah, I'm teaching there as an agg junct

(32:50):
now you know when the Edinburgh School. Very cool. Yeah,
so I'm thinking about it. Man, I might have to
call you to think about just the PhD period and
whether or not whatever you one. I appreciate that, Luca.
Great stuff. And next time we're at a Laker or
a Clippers game, I guess we'll try to find you
or are you Are you down low? You see, I'm

(33:12):
not low, I'm not loo. But well you're talking about
a see. So whether or not he has a girl
on the side or something, I don't know what you said,
quick quick contacts. Luca robb is a wanna be comedian,
want to be funny. Thank you, Thank you, Luca, Thank you.
You just made this. That was the best birthday president.

(33:35):
I was gonna say he got birthday. Thank you, Luca.
I was gonna say he's only got one problem, he's
not funny. I say that, all right, all right, Luca,
thanks a lot. You can check him out. He plays
Ryan on the Hulu TV show Shrill. It's all the
rage right now. Thanks Luca, Thank you guys very much.

(33:55):
Ye Joe Burrow isn't just good, he may be the
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(34:16):
Radio app. It's the Couple of Chris and Rob on
a funky flashback Friday. Quickly. We want to get into
the National Championship game coming up LSU and Clemson on
Monday night. That's gonna be an awesome game. I can't wait.
I admit I was pulling for Ohio State, but I
am from Louisiana, born in Battle. Here we go? You will,

(34:39):
wann't you living in Ohio too? You will in Iowa?
Where aren't you from? I move? I'm a traveling man
and I made a lot of stops all over the world.
I know you know that song of Ricky what's the name?
I just remember watching Ricky Nelson. Yeah, those commercials when
I was a kid. But anyway, Joe Burrow, Rob wasn't
the heisman I be lee? And where is he from?

(35:02):
Queens of Brooklyn. Oh, I hope you got better material
for your stand up. I am doing a stand up
in twenty twenty. I'm gonna call our Cineo Hall and
we're gonna get it. Shut up. Yeah, all right, we'll
see about three months. Alright, three months, I'm ready. In
three months, you're gonna be on the Golden Girls after
I get back. I could warm up there on the

(35:24):
cruise to a couple of setons. Actually is a good idea,
all right. But anyway, Joe Burrow rob I contend, as
many others do, that he is not only having the
best season of any player this year. I think he
if he finishes off Clemson, I'm glad you said they go,

(35:44):
you gotta finish him off, that he will have put
together the greatest season by an NC Double A Division
One quarterback in history. And here's a here's a little
info to back up what I'm saying. He has fifty
five touchdowns, the most forever for him Trophy winning quarterback

(36:09):
was forty eight. Wow. The all time record is Colt
Brennan fifty eight. And he's got you know, three games left,
Burrow or one game left, So we'll see if he
throw can throw four touchdown passes, but he's faced twelve
Power five opponents, throwing forty six touchdowns in those games.
He threw seven touchdowns against Oklahoma and the Peach Bowls.

(36:33):
That was I've never seen anything like that, and he
would he could end up being the first player in
the country to lead the nation in completion percentage while
also throwing for five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns. And
what that tells you is it's not a small sample
size so big. He's throwing the ball all over the
yard and doing it at a high completion rate and

(36:56):
throwing for a ton of yards as well. I mean,
he's just been phenomenal and I gotta give him that credit.
If he can go ahead and win win this game
Monday night, I agree. I don't know how you can
look at those numbers. And when you start talking about
being the first person ever in college football to put
up the numbers, you know, the trifecta that's complete percentage touchdowns,

(37:18):
I mean you're talking about that. That is phenomenal and
and um, you know, I mean he's he came out
of nowhere, basically, I know he was what he wasn't
playing the start, right, and so he uh comes from
there and delivers and and sets the world on fire
and changes the college football uh uh landscape right and

(37:42):
and all of a sudden, he's the hottest ticket. And
uh if he does get this done on Monday, it
just seems like it's so far away, like the national
Championship should have been played already. Am I right, Well,
it's the one thing two weeks after they had the playoffs.
But I'm just saying it's just it's a little too
long for me. But anyway, if he if he's not
rusty and he can continue what he does, I think

(38:06):
that he'll go down as that quarterback who played the
best ever in the college football season. Well, they have
only been eight who have won both the Heisman and
the national Championship in the same year, and nobody's done
it since twenty thirteen, so he would be the first
in that. So I'm with LSU not only pulling for him.
I think they're going to win. I mean, look, I'm

(38:28):
not I get it with Oklahoma no defense, but I
was stunned at how they demolished them in the first half.
And I think they're gonna beat Clemson. Clemson I think
was very fortunate to get past Ohio State. I thought
Ohio State outplayed him. They just left too many points
on the board when they were in the red zone
and settled for field goals. But I think LSU is

(38:50):
taking this. You care to put some wings on it?
We're good? You sure? Yeah? You are? You always want
to bet? Now you now you're chicking it out? How
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Smart guy? Yes, yes, all right. Anyway, he'll be joining

(39:56):
us at the bottom of the hour, and we're gonna
to talk NFL obviously with him, but we're gonna talk
NFL right now. Great weekend, I mean last weekend was tremendous. Yeah,
four really good games this weekend. I think we're in
for another great weekend. Saturday, you got Minnesota at San Francisco,

(40:18):
Then you got Tennessee at Baltimore. Then Sunday Houston at
Kansas City, Seattle at Green Bay. Eight games, eight quarterbacks,
and Rob Parker. I contend that the quarterback who is
under the most pressure to win, the quarterback who will

(40:41):
be criticized the most if he doesn't perform well in
a loss, is none other than the great Aaron Rodgers.
And here's why I say it. One, if you look
at all the quarterbacks who are left, no one has
anything closed to his resume. Now, Russell Wilson has been

(41:04):
in the playoffs, and one what won fourteen games in
the playoffs or played I'm sorry, played fourteen games, I believe,
And Aaron Rodgers has played sixteen. Everybody else is very
new to this postseason stuff. Jimmy Garoppolo first playoffs start.
Kirk Cousins, we know his history, hadn't been able to

(41:26):
win in the playoffs. Had a big win last week,
got the monkey off his back. I think anything he
does from here is gravy. Tennessee. You got Ryan Tannehill,
I mean, really, you're expected that much from him through
for like eighty yards last week. Lamar Jackson another young
and I know he's had a great year, but he's
a young boy, Dion. Then you got Deshaun Watson, another

(41:48):
young boy. Patrick Mahomes a young inness as well. So
I think if the Green Bay Packers, after going thirteen
and three, after showing up the defense, after shoring up
the running game, if they lose and Aaron Rodgers is needed,

(42:09):
he needs to do what he used to do, three
hundred some d yards, three touchdowns. If he needs to
have a typical Aaron Rodgers game of yesterday, a throwback game,
and he doesn't do it, then he will get criticized.
He's always been able, He's always had excuses, and some

(42:31):
of them are legit explanations. The defense couldn't get it done.
There was no running game. There won't be any excuses
if they lose and he doesn't deliver. Now, if he
throws for three hundred something several touchdowns and that defense
doesn't deliver and they lose, then you can't kill him.
But I think he will be critiqued hard and harshly,

(42:55):
and he is the quarterback under the most pressure to
get it done. Couldn't disagree with you more. I think
it's Lamar Jackson two standpoints. Hey, Lamar has had this
unbelievable regular season and he's not just playing for the Ravens,
he's playing for quarterbacks of his ilk. This whole there

(43:16):
is no yes, it is this whole, this whole notion there.
I'm just saying that this whole notion that people are
gonna be open to a quarterback who can do what
he does, where before they wouldn't be as apt of
changing their team to fit a guy who can do
what he does. Already last year and you say he's
a young guy, and I get it, But last year

(43:37):
he set the league on fire, winning like the last
six games, and then they got to the playoffs and
he was stimied in the first half. People were even
calling and talking about putting Joe Flacco back in because
they felt like, when we're down, he can't mean the
pocket passer to try to come back. There's no time
to run the football. So if he would have had

(44:00):
this great season, which has been unbelievable and not only,
and he doesn't perform or they lose, the whole conversation
will be I told you guys like this can't win
in the playoffs because we haven't seen it yet. So
he's playing for, Yes, the Ravens and what they've done
this year and all the stuff that he's accomplished which

(44:22):
has been great, but also the naysayers who are ready
to pounce on him because we saw it last year
in the playoffs the same team that he ran all
over with were the Chargers. Then the regular season met
him a couple of weeks later and totally shut him down.
So this is what That's why I think. And I'm
not saying that Aaron Rodgers shure. If he plays terribly

(44:44):
and they lose, he's going to get criticized. But I'm
just saying if he doesn't play well. But I do
believe that it's Lamar who's playing for something, even bigger
with opening the door to kick the door. And if
Lamar is as dominant as he was this year, you're
Chris and I'm talking about the playoffs where he he's
just uh dominant and he can um run the table right,

(45:08):
run over them and everybody goes, Wow, they're going to
the super Bowl. They don't win the super Bowl, then
that changes everything. So I think there's a little added
pressure there on Lamar. Well, you're right in what you
said about Lamar Jackson, and if he doesn't have a
great game and they lose, right, then there will be criticism.
And you're right, a lot of people come out see

(45:30):
its right, and you know what I mean, that is
something that will come now if he he can shatter
that the way he's done during the regular season where
people say, oh, he can't keep this up and they
just what they went nine eight or nine or ten
in a row and they went through good teams. Was
that what they wind up being? But it was awesome
the stroke and they went through good teams to do it.

(45:53):
Patriots were undefeated when they knocked them off. Uh, And
even at that time, I mean you might look back
and say, maybe the Patriots out that good but I'm
saying at that time they ain't. No. So I just
think that that's where a lot of the pressure because
this is a year he could win. Really and I'm
looking at in the AFC. Why why can't the Ravens win?

(46:13):
Oh no, they can't. They can. But the reason I
say there's more pressure on Aaron Rodgers is because of age.
Like Lamar, I'm not going to kill a guy in
his second year as a starter. First year is a
full time starter for not getting to the super Bowl.

(46:35):
I mean, you gotta learn. I'm not gonna kill him
because he's his second playoff game wasn't up to snuff.
And that's the difference. Like Aaron Rodgers, again, he's always
had an explanation, an excuse for why he's only got
one super Bowl. People have said he's the greatest we's
ever seen throw the football, and yet he's only been

(46:57):
to one super Bowl. Forget winning, he's only been the
one super Bowl. Yeah, but I think I think I
think a reist history the on site kicking Seattle, they
they were going to the super Bowl title. I'm not
saying some of the excuses weren't legit. No they're legit,
but still he's gotten a pass and now they gave
him the defense, they gave him the run game. And

(47:20):
when Mike McCarthy, who's a good coach by all estimations,
when he was pushed out the door last year, a
lot of people put it on Aaron Rodgers. And now
you got this little hot shot play caller, Matt Lafleur,
and the running game is looking good. The defense with
the free agents, you got the Smiths and all that

(47:43):
they're they're ding up read. If you don't deliver like
you always talk about Tom Brady, if they hold the
Seattle Seahawks to fourteen points, which is very possible, seventeen
points and Rodgers can't deliver, has no touchdowns, only has

(48:03):
one touchdown, averages five yards per tip, something like that,
then he is going to be the one to get
the bulk of the criticism. Robbed, That's what and Lamar
has gotten. Some people rightly are gonna say he's young. No,
But the only difference is to other quarterbacks in the AFC.

(48:23):
Aren't these proven winners? They've won one? What is it?
One playoff game? Tannehill's won one? Who else? Am I missing?
Mahomes has one? Do you know what to like, like
like like you can't get through those you can't get
through those guys. Like seriously, you're you're the most dominant
quarterback of the of the season, and nobody tom Brady's

(48:45):
not in your way. It's not like you have to
go to Foxboro and beat tom Brady or something. There's
nobody there. So so yes, Chris, he's a second year quarterback,
but all the other three guys haven't done enough in
the postseason to where Lamar shouldn't be expected it to
beat them. That's what I'm saying too. But I could
I could look at a lot of the guys in
the NFC as well. Kirk Cousins, Jimmy, you got a

(49:07):
guy who you're playing Bowl, but you're you're in your
own ballpark. You're in Hambow is gonna be cold. They're favorites.
They should be. They should be the favorite favorite. And
if they don't get it, I mean, heck, Russell Wilson,
the Seahawks are beating up. Yeah, but worn out Russell
West Russell Wilson got but I've seen what running back

(49:30):
was was sitting on the couch two weeks ago. His
running back was doing what we're doing two weeks ago.
I mean, Russell Wilson is going in there with his
troops less than on all twelve cylinders, and Green Bay
is coming off this bye and they're thirteen and three.

(49:51):
I still they're going to the super Bowl. Believe that
I might be right. I believe. I just believe where
the wage set up, and you know what, what they
have going with the balance and my big things more
even more reason why if riders. But I don't look
at it. But I don't look at it as pressure.
From that standpoint. Pressure used to be Aaron. If you

(50:13):
don't have five touchdowns and put up forty points, you
got no shot to win. That's what he used to
have to face. That's not the case now. And I'm
the same point. And because he won three games there
were three and oh when he didn't even throw a touchdown,
I'm just saying he went him no, he played within
whatever the framework was, and it wasn't the end of

(50:34):
the world that he that he didn't do it in
the regular season. I'm just saying, it's a short menu
rod postseason. Win, they win, if they win playoff, if
they win and get to the super Bowl, or win
the super Bowl. We'll see. I think Aaron Rodgers gonna
have a great praise. I think you'll have a great postseason. Honest,
I'll give him major credit. If he wins the super
Bowl and doesn't have a great game, I think I

(50:55):
don't think it matter if he wins a super Bowl
two hundred and three yards passing, no touchdown. No, I'm
not with that. I'm not really that's a Brady super Bowl.
I'm not with it doesn't count. No, it doesn't count.
So so you wouldn't give Aaron Rodgers credit. I would.
I would be like he rolled the back of the
defense team Jones. No, I don't look at it that
he's not a team game. No, because I'm just saying,

(51:15):
when the same way that you could you could count
Peyton Manning. Yeah, okay, you count it. I just say
that it's it ain't Peyton Manning. I'm approved. Got you?
Did you count got a part parting gift? You? Did
you count it? Whose career would you rather have Elies
or Peyton's? I take Elis. You don't even believe that

(51:40):
you would not see I just said that, you know
what you wouldn't take Pon was like fourteen and thirteen
or something. Go look it up. He didn't have the
greatest postseason Peyton. He was not considered a great postseason quarterback.
Peyton man He has two Super Bowls. Shout five mv
peas or whatever. Five MVPs, and he is one of

(52:03):
the top ten quarterbacks. And he was fourteen and thirteen
in the playoffs. So you you really would rather take,
don't I know you're just trying to save face. I'm
not smiling. I'm smiling because you would take Eli Manny's
career over Peyton Mannis. I just told you say it again.
I don't believe you. Well, the only thing that I
would say I'm looking at you, is that the only

(52:23):
reason that Peyton did win one championship. If Peyton didn't
win one and you asked you one, no, I'm asking
you what you're taking Elie over Drew Breeses. No, no, no,
but he but but Drew doesn't have five MVPs. He's
the all time leader in yards and in touchdown and
he went seven and nine three years ago, and he's

(52:45):
got a Super Bowl. I'm just saying Eli didn't have
some horrible seasons. Yeah, but he's got two and he
has two Super Bowl, So you wouldn't you just admitted
you would take Peyton. No, I see, I can take elt. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I take that brother was his name? Who didn't make it?
It was supposedly be other than that. What was Connor?
Was it something like? All right, didn't you imagine being
in that in that family? It would it would be

(53:06):
you would be crushed, wouldn't you. No, your two brothers,
your two brothers, and your father played quarterback in the NFL.
Condor's smart. No, but I'm just saying, like what happened
to me? Maybe he's great at chess, he's an ADVIC.
But it wasn't. But it's not like just you and
your your dad was a quarterback. You two younger I

(53:27):
think he's the older brother. The two younger brothers became quarterbacks.
I'm just being a little bit challenging Cooper, Right, it
was something like that, something off the beaten path. All right,
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all right, well let's get to your calls. Eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox we talked about it. Who's
the pressure on at quarterback? Is? Is Aaron Rodgers? Under
the most pressure of any of the QBS this weekend,
or is it Lamar Jackson the soon to be MVP?

(55:12):
I say Rogers, Rob says Lamar, what say you? Let's
start with Patrick in North Carolina. Patrick, you on the
eye couple. Hey, what's going on? Fellas? First thing I'd
like to Hey, the first thing I'd like to say,
the man with the plan styling and profiling only as
he can, Rob Parker, the best sports talk show host

(55:32):
on the planet, A very happy birthday. Thank you so much, Parker. Hey,
we can rack the Can you rack that? Yes? Had
he sounded clear? Thank you? Patrick? That was awesome. Now
with that, with that being said, Fellas, I'm gonna tell
you what you both both of you are right this
weekend because in my opinion, Jackson and Rogers both have

(55:56):
the equal amount of pressure on them this week pack
you down in the middle. They're both under pressure. We
get it here here here, Yeah, but they both honor
the same amount of pressure. And hear me out first.
Hear me out. Rogers is underneath the pressure because he's

(56:18):
only won one Super Bowl and he has the best
team he's ever had in the past ten years. Offensively
and defensively, he's got one of the best defenses in
the NFL or not in the NFL, but he's had
since he's been in Green Bay. Now getting to Jackson,
Jackson is having the kind of year that Cam Newton
had in twenty fifteen when he rolls over the NFL. Okay,

(56:42):
he had a lot of pressure on him. So Jackson
has the pressure on him to finish what Cam Newton
could not do, take his team to the super Bowl
and win the Super Bowl with the style office that
he has, because he has an office that can't be
stopped in the a FC. But to me, both of
those guys have the same amount of pressure this weekend,

(57:04):
one to prove that he deserves to be there and
the other one to prove that he can keep his
team going and get him a second Super Bowl. All right, Patrick,
rob is disappointed, though, I still wanted you to pick
one of the other, because that's how we roll on
the show. Right, that's somebody you can say the Blue Moon,
but come on, right, you can say like like, I

(57:26):
know they were close, but on so, all right, let's
do justin in Virginia. Beat You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio what's up Justin? Hey, what's up guys?
Happy birthday? Rob? Thank you appreciate it, my man. Oh yeah,
I just want to say Lamar Jackson a little more
pressure because I mean, he's young, down he plays an
offense that he could get injured and had his big season.

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So this is like one of his years where he
has to perform where you know, you know how many's
gonna get and not only that, you have to put
the cherry on top at least win one playoff win
maybe two, but most like he has to get to
the super Bowl for everybody. Remember, this is one of
the greatest seasons ever. And I think if Aaron Rodgers blues,
I think he'll still be great. But he just wanted
to be in the top the top. But I think

(58:08):
Lamar Jacket wins, he's gonna be knowing is one of
the greatest seasons ever played. All right, that's fair. Thanks,
thanks Justin. To be in Louisiana. B. You're on with
Chris and Rob Rob Parker, happy birthday. But man, B,
thank you appreciate it. Um, although I have to say, um,
I'm glad that that Chris said you were eating because

(58:29):
I couldn't tell any difference in your look at that right.
Thanks Thanks Craig Melvin. Thank you. They got that New
York call me. We'll talk about dogs, daughters and coffee.
But uh, but I think Aaron Rodgers is under pressure.
I don't think Lamar Jackson should be under any pressure.

(58:51):
They that team, smartly sold by John Harbaugh, is that
offense is built around him, and it's built to change
it to his style. So I think they'll be for
several years. It's not a flash in the pan um.
And I think he's playing with house money right now
because it's is what second year to start. But don't
forget last year he came in and shook it up
one like six in a row, got to the playoffs, remember,

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and that's the right And then all of a sudden
they got into the playoffs, they fell behind big early
to San Diego, and people were asking for Joe Flaco
to get back in because they felt, like, you know
what I'm saying. So that's the only reason. If he
has a repeat performance and they get knocked out in
their first playoff game and he doesn't play well, people
will start saying, see, I told you you can't do that.

(59:34):
In the playoffs. Well, but I don't think that's gonna happen.
I don't. I mean, I think they're gonna win. I
don't know if they'll win the super Bowl. But I
still think he's playing with house money because I think
he's still still hast But but Rogers has to win. Rogers,
he's still great. Um. But but this is the best
team he's had. It's balanced, it's what I mean, the

(59:54):
best balance that puts pressure on him. All right, let's
go to Brad. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on them. Let's go to Brad in Maine. Brad,
you're on with Chris and Rob. Hey, Happy birthday, Rob
J Jomas, Thank you appreciated, Brad. It's awesome. Hey. Um,
I would agree with Chris that it's Aaron Rodgers, even

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though I think it'd be interesting to see if Lamar
can prove that his style can win in the playoffs.
But I also think that the biggest thing is Aaron
Rodgers wanted McCarty out of there. He wanted McCarty gone
because he wanted to didn't that couldn't you know? It
was McCarty's fault why he couldn't win all these years?

(01:00:36):
The last ten years and now and now that the
la fleurs in there. I mean, I'm not a Packers fan.
I'm the greatest of all times fan, you know, uh Brady? Yeah?
And oh god? I also I also think that Aaron
is a fantastic player. But if you're gonna go behind
the scenes and cry to your upper office or upper
management about your coach, then you got to prove it.

(01:00:59):
He either shut up or put up. You know what
I mean? Great point, Brad, all right, I appreciate your call.
Let's go to Ricky and Florida. Ricky, you're with Chris
and Rob. Hey, Happy birthday, Rob and get kades more.
Thank you, Ricky. I appreciate it. Man. It feels great
to be fifty six. God is good. That's great. I'm
sixty six out now you feel you know it? My man,

(01:01:20):
sixty six is beautiful. Yes, sir, Um, I wouldn't make
one quick statement first before I give you my answer.
Um you guys, I'm be glad y'all, get y'all television
show for y'all all the way. Thank you man, man.
We appreciate that. But will you not TV and radio?
We don't want to give up the radio show. We
love radio, we loved talking to people. Can make this

(01:01:42):
a TV show that because Aaron Rodgers. If Aaron Rodgers
don't win it this year, he's uh, he's worse than Eli.
Oh wow, Ricky coming out the box. Explain, Ricky, you
from New York. You ain't from Florida. Yes, yeah, yeah,
I'm from New York. Of course I knew it. I
could tell that that's a New Yorker's tank. I knew it,

(01:02:05):
all right, go ahead, explain why. Yeah it's hard, Okay,
I'll explain why in a second. As far as Lamar Jackson,
he has to get past Mahomes, I think that's a
tougher task, right right, not this weekend eventually. As far
as Aaron Rodgers, like you guys were saying all the time,
he has everything, got the running game, got the defense.

(01:02:25):
There's no excuses. Just go heater and win your super Bowl.
You can't if you can't get to the Super Bowl,
I don't hear nothing more about Aaron Rodgers. All right,
Rinkie coming hard. Super Bowl champion Will Blackman is picking
the Titans. Wow, the upset Lamar Jackson and the Ravens
this weekend. Wow, you'll tell us why I would be huge, man,

(01:02:45):
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(01:03:27):
It's our man, Will Blackman, Will, what's happening Man? I
didn't want to come on the radio. Man, I I
didn't want to do it because I owe my man
some wings. Man. Wait a minute, can you explain, Will Blackman?
Because your man tried to tell you rub your face.
I'm gonna rub your face in it a little bit.

(01:03:48):
Tell everybody you don't know. Listen, listen, I'm like, be rabbit,
I'm gonna say my my faults before you get him
at me. Listen, Yeah, I picked the pictures, he picked
the tight end, and so I owe him some happy birthday.
By the way, thank you so much. Will. It's all good.
I was glad to finally meet Chris at the studio. Yes,

(01:04:09):
it was good. It was good. Well, look, you're losing
that beat to Rob hasn't stopped you from being bold
in your predictions and you're going with Tennessee. Yes, well,
this this was my deal. I'm like, okay, how the Ravens.
How they've been beating people. They've been beating people with
bully ball. And I always say for physicality always beats finess,

(01:04:32):
no matter why I look at. I mean, I go
way back to for example, not that far, but when
Denniver was rolling with that hot offense. You know it's
what happened. They played Seattle, who played bully ball, you know,
just beat them down. So I feel like this Tennessee
Titans team, like right now, no one believes in them,
and they played that style of football where it's just
physical Roman adults across the board football. And then I

(01:04:55):
go back to the game when the Ravens played the Browns,
you know, Nick Chubb had on hundred and sixty five yards.
They control the game a lot of yards in the ground,
which forced Lamar, you know, to do a bunch of
things and cause him turnovers. And this Titans team, they
remind me a lot of my twenty eleventeen the Giants,
when we barely got in at nine and seven, and

(01:05:16):
then once we got into the playoffs, it was a
whole different ball game. We ran through Atlanta, then we
went to Lambeau and beat a fifteen or one Lambeau
at lambo Um and then we went on to play
San Fran at San Fran and breased him in a
double overtime game. So they remind me a lot of
that team, like great now that they're just they're not
a friend of anybody and they don't care. So that's
why I'm like, man if. I initially was like if

(01:05:38):
there's an upset, and I was like, you know, I'm
just gonna go and say, Titans are gonna go get it.
So Chris and I also just had a debate about
pressure in the playoffs. I said it was Lamar because
he's not just playing four, playing who's got the most
pressure on them? What quarterback? But but but I made
the point it was Lamar because I was saying, he's

(01:05:59):
not just playing for this great year that the Ravens
have had. There's really nobody like there's all three quarterbacks
that are in his way all have one playoff wins.
So it's not like you're going up against some guy
who's a proven winner, you know in the postseason, or
somebody you gotta slay, or everybody's there. And then the
other part of it is like last year he was

(01:06:20):
six and one going into the playoffs, had kind of
come out of nowhere and you know, turned the Ravens around,
and then they lost in the playoffs and he struggled
and they were down twenty three to three. If he
doesn't win, or he struggles and they and they lose
before they could get to the super Bowl, will people
go and jump out and say, see, I told you
that that running quarterback doesn't work in the playoffs, it

(01:06:41):
might work doing the regular season. There's some pressure there,
don't you think. No, it's it's way too soon say,
And I feel like his style works because everything is
set up for him to succeed and he's taking full
advantage in command. Nothing. I say it's way too early
because here it's his first year as a full time
third and he's rich, is gonna be FP like he

(01:07:01):
already won the season. He could get knocked out this
first I don't think you think he could lose him
for this first game in the playoffs and everybody would
be cool with it. Last year gets some criticism, but
I agree with will overall. And he's still young. You know,
you gotta you can't. Yeah, Like for him to do
this right now and already take over the league is
already he already won and every po's mind. He already

(01:07:23):
pruced everybody that he like, he's gonna make players no
matter what. I think the pressure is more so on
players like Kirk Cousins because Minnesota was supposed to be
a one quarterback away and he let go Kase Keenaman
when got Kirk Cousins. Also, I can say pressure to
be on my homes too, because my homes he was
a few playmakers on defense away, so they went and
got Stagnola and they got a honey Badger to sure

(01:07:45):
up that defense in critical situation. So I look at
what about Rogers will I think it's most of all
the quarterbacks playing this weekend, I think it's mostly on
Aaron Rodgers because now there's always been excuses, some of
them the legitimate, don't get me wrong, but he didn't
have the defense, he didn't have the running game. Now
he's got both, and he is the one, maybe by design,

(01:08:07):
but who hasn't been up to snuff as far as
the old Aaron Rodgers. If if they lose and he
doesn't have he can't put together an old Aaron Rodgers performance,
then I think he's gonna get some criticism more than Yeah,
he always will. But but Aaron Rodgers is at the
phase of in his life where he's still building his legacy.
Like he's already a first round Hall of Fame. Right

(01:08:29):
when people give Tom Brady a lot of a lot
of criticism and issues, I'm like, but he's already built
a ridiculous career so people can say stuff and doesn't
mean things. So Rogers, he's building his career where you
got guys like like Kirk Cousins who's still trying to
enter that elite category that every time you know, he'll
show up one week, you know, and then next week
on primetime, he doesn't show up. So I feel like

(01:08:52):
he's still trying to build that and prove that he
belongs in that class. And Mahomes after winning the MVP
and being you know, an off side jump on defense
away from the Super Bowl like pressures on that and
then you know, for Russell, I could he could add
him in that too to deliver without the legion the boom.
I was gonna ask you, how do you see that

(01:09:12):
game Seattle Green Bay playing out? I see it tough man.
I feel like if the Seattle cannot run the football
effectively throughout the whole game and it becomes, you know,
a shootout between Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson, I think
Aaron Rodgers take that has that advantage. And the other
The other thing is that Patrick Mahomes. He was the

(01:09:35):
new hotness last year. It's unbelievable how they've fallen under
the radar. People don't even mention him. I mean, he
didn't have fifty touchdowns this year and they still want
a lot of games. But why aren't people talking about
the Chiefs. What's changed there? I think because earlier in
the year they lost a lot of home games, um

(01:09:56):
to start off with, and then when Mahomes got injured
and then Matt Moore came in and almost uh think
Green Bay. You know, he was going off that game.
People kind of looked at it like, WHOA, maybe it's
not my homes. Maybe an INDIEE system. Maybe he could
put any quarterback back there and run his system. But um, yeah,
I think because when you look in the AFC, um

(01:10:18):
he's not. He's not making those miraculous plays like he
may lash like every every year. Like his comparison is
like Steph Curry, like making these ridiculous shots from all
over the place and having a having a hot hand.
You know, you see Lamar making crazy plays in the AFCA.
You see Deshaun Watson making crazy plays in AFC. You
see Derek Henry runner for two hundred yards at two

(01:10:40):
hundred and sixty pounds. You know, it's there's other there's
other guys in that conference that are making miraculous plays.
So I can see. That's why it's like the expectations
are so high from the Homes that he can throw
a seventy yard bomb. They're like, oh, yeah, we've seen that.
We wanted to see you throw your eyes closed backwards.
All right, well quickly, I mean like, just give us
the winners. Who you got Minnesota, San Francisco? I got

(01:11:03):
San Francisco. Okay, you obviously got Tennessee at over, Baltimore, Houston,
Kansas City, Kansas City? All right, that's it. And you
say it's green Bay? Got green Bay? Yeah? Yeah? Green Bay?
All right, thanks Willy. We'll appreciate you. Yes, maybe we'll
get you on next week. Yeah. When you when you,
when we get you in here, you bring your credit
card for the wings and stuff. Now we do our

(01:11:25):
wing beats. Are you you gotta buy for the whole staff.
That's how we do. Rob didn't tell you that? All right? Well? Thanks? Yeah?
How about oh wow? All right, well we appreciate basketball America.
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(01:12:09):
on the Ones and twos. That's that's a good name too,
you know you like that? Yeah, I kind of all right, Rob.
Earlier this week, I received my ballot for the NBA
All Star Game. Uh, as you know the All Star Game.

(01:12:30):
All Star players are voted on by the media, the coaches,
I'm sorry, the media, the players, and the fans. The
starters are voted by the media, the players, and the fans,
and then the coaches picked the reserves. So I'm fortunately
one of the voters for the media, and I will

(01:12:52):
fill out my ballot. Next week is d Juary twentieth,
so I want to wait, uh, you know, until it's
closer to the deadline. But right now, after the second
returns of the fan voting. Alex Caruso. You heard of him, Yes,
he's all the rage. He's a bench player for the Lakers,

(01:13:18):
and he's nice little role player. But his name has
no business being mentioned in the same sentence as All
Star and he won't make it because he's sixth. All right.
He's playing nineteen minutes a game, averaging five points a game,
but he's sixth, ahead of Donovan Mitchell, ahead of Devin

(01:13:40):
Booker in the All Star voting. In the East. It
gets even worse. Taco Fall. Yeah, the seven sixth guy
who's played four games four for the Boston Celtics is
sixth among front court players in the West. Now, neither
of them is gonna make it because you have to

(01:14:01):
be one two or one two three in the front
court players and one of the top two vote getters
among the guards. But Rob, this is happening too often
and it goes way. It's not new, It's been happening
ever since I covered the league. That there's some ridiculous voting,
uh by some of the fans and even more so

(01:14:22):
by the players. But Rob, I say it's you can
get rid of the fan and the player vote. Let
the media choose the All Stars. Whose game is it?
Chris Boussard, whose game is it? The NBA? No, it's
not as for the fans the All Star game, it's
just selling Jordan's game. Whose game is it? It's Michael

(01:14:45):
Jordan's game. That's Magic Johnson. But no, Rob, it is
fans want to see the best players, right, But you
just said it. Cho Fall isn't gonna make it, and
neither it's Alex Caruso. So you're talking about guys who
are not going to get the vote to be started.
Yes or no, Chris Bussart, Yes or no? He was

(01:15:07):
a star? He was no, but he was a star player.
Should he have been a starter? Over? But he was
a star player. He wasn't like a scrub like these
guys are talking. Okay, So so I'm just asking you.
You know those guys aren't. It's the fans game. It's
an exhibition game. The final score is gonna be one
ninety eight to one ninety five. Come on, Chris, you're

(01:15:28):
making it like it's some real game that we met
that matter and here it is are burst matter that's
that goes in the Hall of Fame. When I was
in the legacy. No, but I just started. Okay, I
just started. Christ tell me the year that they got
it wrong as a starter, I told you yall, y'all,
Ming was a star. All I'm saying is all I'm
saying is leave it the way it is. Let the

(01:15:50):
fans vote for the starters who they want to see. Coaches,
uh can vote for the reserves and and look at
the other players. The people have earned their right to
be an All Star based on that. So that would
be coaches and general managers and if you want to
like include a piece of that some sort of thing
with the media. But I do not believe in that. Baseball.

(01:16:12):
Here's one gets it right. Fans vote for the starters.
Fans vote for the starters times. If they got any wrong,
fans vote for the starters. Right. It's still their game.
It isn't wrong by them if that's what they want
to do with your theory. If Alex Caruso if was
voted as a starter, would you say it's the fans game?

(01:16:33):
It's because because that's because that would be that there
so many fans who somehow wanted to see him play.
I just Chris, I do not believe that you should
take it away from the fans. It's their game. It's
an exhibition, their game. It's the fans game. No, it's not.
It's a showcase. It matters. That is a game to
sell to fans what the game is and how exciting

(01:16:56):
it is, and who the players are and who do
you clutch. That's what It's the all star game. That's
what it is, because you're showing all the by don't
put the vote vote for nine stars, Alice Caruso, Taco Fall.
They're not stars. But that's fine to some play. To
some people in the league, they like those guys. Are
they stars? But that's okay. Then now we need to

(01:17:17):
change it to the NBA Fan Game. Nobout the same
talking about and then puts on my players. They wouldn't
even vote for Lebron, should vote. Media will put the
right guys in there. We'll put the stars in there.
You're crazy, No way, it should be about the fans.
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(01:18:02):
MGM Grand Race and Sports Book Director, will join us
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NFL playoff games, you want to stay tuned and keep
it locked for Lamar Mitchell. All right, Hey, I was
gonna say thank for everybody. Man. You guys have been
great for our birthday, for people just joining us, uh,

(01:18:25):
celebrating fifty six years and feeling good and happy in
a good spot in life and fulfill that work. We
love doing the show with Chris and working on FS
one and teaching at USC And Chris got me a
great gift, a Manny Petty and a massige by me
but at the spa, And I was surprised that Chris

(01:18:47):
came through with that, so that I know you're soft
like your Felix of the odd Couple. Just wait till
one which one would which one would have got a
Manny petty? Oscar a fee You gotta admit that, but
I'm Oscar officially. But I'm gonna say thanks for that.
So you went against the grain, uh, rob g and

(01:19:09):
you guys also pitched in for some food, which was
very nice, some buffalo wild wing and Alex went against
what he is for and somehow right, somehow went to
uh uh Cheesecake Factory and Border Pete my favorite cheese
breaking out. Did you did you stumble when you had

(01:19:29):
to order it? Like I wanted it was like it
was the toughest thing. She didn't know what I was doing.
The people behind me were getting annoyed because I wanted
ben't she The only thing that was harder was paid for.
She told me eleven bucks and I looked at her, like,
for the whole cake, right, She's like, no, for that slice.
I was like, man, wow, and you ate it already

(01:19:51):
vanilla bean cheesecake favorite. No, no, no, I got it.
I didn't need it yet. You need it yet? All right? Anyway,
all right, so thanks to everybody, Thanks for all the
twe we each thank fall the people on social media.
What a great day, and we're gonna go celebrate after
the showy We started out Rob talking about this is
a nice it's been a great, great day, you know,

(01:20:12):
fun and camaraderie, friendship, all that, right, But we gotta
go to a topic that's not that friendly, and that
is the beef, the Twitter beef between former teammates, good friends.
Hopefully they're still good friends and then work this out eventually.
But it's Kevin Durant and Kendrick Perkins on Twitter going

(01:20:36):
at it. Rob G, can you explain give us the
whole context of the issue, yeah, just a quick summary. Now.
A Boston Celtics reporter responded to its tweet that Kendrick
Perkins put out, saying basically saying that Russell Westbrook was
mister thunder. He's, you know, the greatest thunder in history,
not necessarily the best player, but mister thunder. And which

(01:20:59):
is true. And so the kind of pointed out about
Kevin question right, So the reporter pointed, Hey, what about
Kevin Durant? And he made some joke about Westbrook not
being able to get out of the first round, and
Perk started it by saying, well, I was there when
Katie couldn't get out of the second round without Russ,

(01:21:19):
and then things kind of snowballed out of control. Katie
clapped back Perk cap clap back in but here clap
getting called a coward. Katie clapped back with yeah, my
center on those teams average two and three, two points
and three. And he added Kendrick Perkins twice, and it
was like, but you played hard, way to go, Champ,

(01:21:40):
and then Perk went new clear you know where he went, folks.
He said, boys, stop it. You made the weakest move
in NBA history going to a seventy three win team
that you had down three one, and of course uh
Kadi shot back, and then Perk went at Hi McGain

(01:22:04):
and said his moved to the Golden State Warriors was cowardly.
So it got ugly and I don't think any fans
loved it. But even us in the media, it's a
lot we can a little bit because right, I mean,
to see people like that, even in our business, sometimes
we see our people right in the media going at

(01:22:24):
it on social media and it's like, dude, why why
don't you have that conversation on the phone if you
got a disagreement or whatever, rather than in public. Here
here's the thing, though I've said this before, I think
KD I have no problem with him getting on social media.
A lot of people do. I don't have a problem
with him going back at reporters, going back at players,

(01:22:46):
going back at Joe Schmoe from Idaho. You know, I mean,
that's what he does. He'll go at random guys. That
just shows that he's the most sensitive. Well he is sensitive.
But here's the thing. My my thing has always been
my biggest concern with it is just his mental health
with it, because studies have been done to show that

(01:23:06):
social media can make people more depressed and less happy,
you know, because whether it's fomo fear of missing out,
you're seeing all these other kids doing all these great
things and you're not all these fear of missing out,
or if it's just other people criticizing you and you
reading all that, whatever it is. But that's my biggest

(01:23:27):
concern for Kevin Durant with the social media. But if
if he likes it, he's happy, and he can still
go out there and perform at the top of his game,
then hey, if that's what floats your boat, fine, But
what I've always said, Rob is this, Kevin Durant needs
to win gracefully more than anybody else. He don't need

(01:23:53):
to call people, don't brag about how much he's won,
call people out who don't win. Just when you won
your titles in Golden State, win gracefully. Everybody gave you props,
you were the finals MVP, and and don't go at
anybody because it's too easy. That's the problem. It's and

(01:24:13):
I never killed Grant for going to Golden State, but
it's too easy for someone he's going at to just
be like, hold up, dude, who you calling out when
you went to go, you know, and that he win
it Perk. I think he went it Perk first. I
think Perk's tweet was just a fact. Hey, you know,

(01:24:33):
Katy couldn't get out of second thought. It was cringe worthy,
I thought, Perkins, I don't know, I don't I don't know.
I guess maybe are they on PARS players? So for
do you know what I'm saying, like the like for
a lesser player to kind of you know, I get it.
I don't know, Chris. It just seemed like it was

(01:24:56):
unequal and Perk really went like for the ruler. To me, well,
he did him hard, but it was hard. Yeah, but
that who cared? Ain't a great play, right? Okay? You know,
but I'm just saying he hit Perk basically as hard
as he could hit Perk. How else could he hit Perk?

(01:25:18):
He hit Perk as hard as he could two and three,
and Perk get him as hard as he could. You
you made a weak move, according to Perk and a
lot of other people, and that's where it got ugly.
My thing is this, though, Rob as I would hate
to see a friendship destroyed over this, and that's what

(01:25:39):
I was destroyed. I thought, but what you think, man?
They might hopefully they can get it back together. Look,
Charles Barkley his relationship with Michael Jordan. They were close
during playing days. And then what did he what did
he say that Mike criticized Mike as an owner? I
can't remember specifically, Mike and Mike didn't like it. And

(01:25:59):
from what you know, I hear they aren't as close anymore,
if they're close at all, And so sometimes you know
that's how it is. But you and I've always said
a player that wants to move into the media, the
thing you have to do is you gotta be You
can't let your friendships in a league from being once

(01:26:23):
you get here. But you gotta also be careful. We've
seen other players don't just be shooting bullets, you know
what I mean, like like kind of just throwing stuff
out there that could hurt you as well. Would you
say that, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like you
have to have some degree of credibility, That's what I mean.
You just can't be like like but Perks got wasn't
a star, he wasn't nearly as good as here, and

(01:26:46):
he got credibility. No, I get that. I'm just saying,
but it can also hurt you if you're a little
too over the top, and maybe you're not. Do you
think there's a hurt perk. No, I don't think so,
because you know, he's a little like Oakley. Now he wasn't,
you know, the beloved, but he was kind of that

(01:27:07):
kind of play I got you, Yeah, where people could
latch on the guys like that. I saw it first.
I covered Oakley, you know what I mean when when
he was with the Knicks and he was beloved. I mean,
he wasn't the greatest player, wasn't about that, but he hustled,
He gave you everything, you know what I mean, every
night and people love that. What do you think? See? Look,
I did not kill Kevin Durant for going to Golden State.

(01:27:30):
And one of the major reason I didn't was because
I felt like I didn't want to be what I
thought would be hypocritical, because I was like, look, this
was this. I saw this with Lebron. People killed Lebron
when he went to Miami, but then when he won
the championships, all of a sudden, everybody was praising him.

(01:27:53):
He was winning MVPs and everything and so I said
that day the same things happened. I'm not killing Kevin
Durant because when he wins a championship, two, maybe three,
and he's maybe one of a few finals MVPs, everybody's
going to praise him. So how can we kill him
and say it was such a weak move. But then

(01:28:14):
when it comes to fruition and he wins, we're gonna
praise him for But my thing wasn't when I thought
it was a bad move for the NBA and mess
with the with the competitive balance. So my thing was,
he's a free agent, Chris, he could do whatever he wants,
but this was a bad move. So it was really
more about that than it was about his right to

(01:28:36):
go anywhere. Do I think it looked good for him
or helped him at all? No? I don't think it
helped him. I think they doesn't think the move helped him. No.
I think I think it hurt him. To champions I
got that, but I think it hurt him from the
standpoint of how people looked at him. Okay, would you
I mean, we even agreed, but do you know, I
want to think about he got his championships and the legacy.
Let's if his legacy is better off. But you. But

(01:28:58):
you also have people like wal Clyde Frasier, who who
here's a guy who was a great player in this league,
and some other people saying the top fifty. Right, he's
a top fifty player. A lot of people don't know
you guys are young. Walter Clyde Frasier was a ball
or straight up, no doubt. So don't look at him
with the craziest best one of the craziest suits and go,
this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He was
a straight up ball, Okay, So when guys like that go, oh,

(01:29:22):
you know, you really can't count that as an asterisk
next to it. I'm just saying he got his championships,
he balled out, he got the MVPs, he got the
jumper in Lebron's face. We saw all of it, Chris,
he's a great player. But there's still just a little
bit back there where you go, no, you're right, right,
and that's you. And that's rob why I say he

(01:29:43):
needs to chill, Like, here's the deal. We see Shock
and Charles go at it right and and Shacks always
got the Trump cards and that's rings right. The Barkley didn't.
Was it Barkley that win? Even saying Kobe got you
those rings? Obviously shock God was the most dominant player
in the league, even as good as well. Here's my point.

(01:30:05):
If you're Kevin Durant on that show and you you
can't say to Barkley you ain't got no rings? Why
because Barkley's got the ultimate He can go nuclear, just
like kay Perk. That's why I say k D needs
to win gracefully. If you win it in Brookley, how
Brooklyn would be different because it's a you know, it

(01:30:25):
would kind of prove you just went there and won
it on your own with Kyrie, right and still don't
you don't need to rub your ring. Don't rub those
two rings and people's face. But but but the whole
idea that he did decide to go somewhere where an
organization you know, I had never won and have to
put in work. You're going there to be the step child.
Even though the Knicks are horrible, it's still their town.

(01:30:47):
Like like the same thing with Kawhen Kawhi coming to
the Clippers instead of the Lakers. It was laid out
for him, right, It was laid out for him, no
question about it? All right? What do you guys think?
A seven seven ninety nine Fox A seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine. Was KD Kevin Durant
out of line in his Twitter b f last night

(01:31:09):
with Kendrick Perkins? Or was PERK out of line? Who
you got KD or KP? Also, if you want to
weigh in on this, what do you think of Kd's rings?
I think they're legit. He clearly was the best player
on the floor. He got it done. But what are
your thoughts on him? A seven seven ninety nine On
Fox's The Eye Couple Fox Sports Radio. We want to

(01:31:33):
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(01:31:53):
Ones and twos, All right, you'll turn the way in
Who you got KD, Kevin Durant or KP Kendrick Perkins
in this Twitter beef? Let's start with Vine in Memphis. Vine,
you're on with christ and Rob. Hey, I am definitely
on Kendrick Perkins side. Man. I mean, he's just he's

(01:32:15):
being a realist with Katie. Katie knows he can't rub
those rings in anybody's face. It pers basically just let
him know that, Like like if he was honest, he
was a friend. I know you're cringing over there thinking that,
you know, he was a little bit harsh, but I
don't think he was harsh. Katie has to get off
of that highhole. Yeah, for a guy who had two
points and three points, uh do we rebounds? That is

(01:32:38):
a little harsh for a guy like if you balled out,
maybe you could talk a little bit more. But I
don't know. He got to me, he got the credibility
to talk. Now, but to me, like a star player
and the guy who's like a h what do you
call him? You know, fringe player? Right, So a fringe
player can't criticize No, not there, no, not as a

(01:32:58):
media person who couldn't wasn't even as good as the friends.
That's our job, thought, So that's Perk's job, now, wasn't
this job? That's what are you doing you tweet on Twitter.
The only thing I want to tell you, guys is that, yeah,
you may be able to go back to the two
and three, but I'll leave you with this. When it
was time to throw those punches, when it was time

(01:33:18):
for uh, you know the Charles Oakley, you know saying
you guys just used that term. When it was time
for the Charles Oakley to come out. KD was looking
at Kendrick Perkins to have his back on that, so
that two and three may not have been much on
the floor, but in muscle and hate. Leave my guy alone.
Don't give him those hard sounds. He knows whose head
is back, and that's why he has the right to talking.

(01:33:39):
I ain't going to least a great job, guys. All right,
thank you, Vaughan. Let's go to tar in Atlanta. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Todd? Hey,
how are you guys doing? Are you? Yeah? Man, I'm
on team k D. All right, tell us why you
wanted a few Most people have said KP, go ahead.

(01:33:59):
Why uh? He Perkins brought his name into the situation.
That's what I said. But we know about when you
say when you say, Russell Westbrook is mister thunder. We
Katie's already in. Do you think do you think he
just leave it this way Chris? If he never mentioned

(01:34:20):
his name? Do you think KAD would have would have
if he but just made a conversation saying he is
made the case? Why uh Westbrook is mister thunder? Do
you believe k D would have got into that conversation.
I'm asking you KD being a sensitive as possibly, but
here's the deal, and keep keep lost him. But it

(01:34:42):
was the Boston writer. If you want to say he
brought Kad and he didn't mention Katie's name. He never
mentioned the implication. No, I get what the implication once
his name is mentioned. And I don't know if they
mentioned it. Did they do it at Kevin Durant? Because
why else would he? How would he know that that
conversation's going to sees everything? Yeah, let's go to Mike
in Vegas. Mike, you're with Chris and Rob theseuft gentlemen.

(01:35:06):
Happy new year, Happy New Year, Happy New Year. I
ain't talking to y'all in a minute. Hey, I'm coming
your way, Mike, I'm coming your way. What's going on
in Vegas. Yeah, man, we got we got the sexfest
out here. Man, it's a consumer electronic show. You know
how go was out here? There's consumer electronics show. Okay,
the sexfest all right? Chris thought he said the sex fast.

(01:35:27):
Chris was like why, I like. Chris was like, wait
a minute, I might get a ticket out all right, Mike,
go ahead, who you with Kate? So I won't say
this just for the record, when Kat went back to Oklahoma,
what was the cloud calling them mister cupcake? They were
calling them soft, they were calling them everything when don't

(01:35:49):
get me wrong, the mixed emotions was there because how
Russell Westbrook ended up weaving. But all Kate was saying
at the end of the day is, hey, you know
this guy spent demner his entire your career here and
gave us everything that he possibly could and didn't go
to a team that basically beat you down and then
you turn around? What what? What? What the uh? The

(01:36:10):
cartoons used to say, uh, if you can't beat them,
you join them, So he had to join them. Now.
It would have been a cop out for Russell Westbrook
to go to a team that was superstar loaded heavy
and made the playoffs. And was one game away from
getting to the championship game. Then yes, I would understand that.
But no, KB is filling a little NaCl two n

(01:36:36):
A c L two. All right, do you know what that? No?
What is that mob there? Anybody know ACL two? You
guys are young. We don't know what that means? Is
he still Mike? Mike? Yeah? What does that mean? AL two?
It's salt. It's salt. Salt? Okay, Hey, you what you

(01:37:01):
take in chemistry? I don't remember the elements? Bro and
Mike we went to we went to Joda school. Dude,
what do you what do you want? Was a great
student in chemistry in high school and I forgot that
all those elements. All right, but listen, I hold y'all
watch though. You know what I'm saying, awesome watching. So
whenever y'all come to Vegas, I'll get you a nice watch.
What do you mean, I'm coming actually coming in. We'll

(01:37:23):
be there tomorrow. What are you talking? Man? But you
can give him mine exactly give it out. Watches. Ain't
gonna ask you where you staying? Hold on, hold on
the line, hold on the line, hold on. Let's go
to Joseph and thank you Mike, we appreciate that, brother,
for real. That's nice. You don't have to do that,
not at all. What's up Man's good fellas. I'm sorry,

(01:37:45):
but I'm gonna stick up for KD. And this this
is kind of why can hear me? Hear me, hear
me out, hear me out? What did they do to
support KD in getting a championship? They had a great loss.
They lost Harden, right, they traded Harden into Houston. He
went to management talk to them about Russell, and Russell

(01:38:08):
still didn't change his play for for Durant right, the
same issue that was having in Cleveland. Nobody was going
to Cleveland. Lebron was winning sixty games by himself, and
nobody wanted to go to Cleveland. I'm gonna let you finish,
keep him on, I'm finish. Oklahoma City had a great team.

(01:38:29):
They had the Warrior seventy three wins, down three to one,
and I don't know if they would have beat Cleveland
because Cleveland had their numbered team, but they they should
have gotten to the finals and not just k D.
K D and Russ fell apartner. They choked it down.
Like you said, it's about legacy and at bottom line, Okay,

(01:38:52):
see's another championship organization. He had to learn how to win,
and now he can take his winning ways somewhere else.
I'm not mad at that, look, I said to robbing
the break. I think k D at the end of
the day, he's better off having gotten those two rings
rather than a state in Oklahoma City. Obviously been this great,
all time great player, but never won a championship or

(01:39:15):
guard some else and where else and every one? All right,
how about Frankie and Little Rock Little Rock Arkansas? You're
on the odd couple Fox Sports rad Yo. What's up
many a Frankie? Hey man, I'm still waiting to hear
it is ever going to be a Rock Parker soundboard man,
because I want to hear all those sounds that Rock
Parker mix. What do you mean, like like bright, like

(01:39:39):
the stop it Frankie stopping. We'll get that. Rob's got
no way, no how stopping his mind Frankie stopping. I'm
actually he's actually stealing that from all right, I stole it.

(01:40:00):
I know it's uh, you know, I gotta go with
KP on this one, man, kp Uh. It's part of
his job, you know, to to put some stuff out there,
you know, and obviously somebody. I really don't know if
if the name was mentioned or not, so I'm not
gonna pretend to know. But Kat, you always gonna go
for the bait. I mean, that's part of that's part
of Kendrick's job. Now as far as does he have

(01:40:22):
a right, you know, to say stuff because you only
put up two rebounds or three rebounds. They're all professionals
when they were playing, they were all professionals. We always
say it, no matter how much you're getting paid, no
matter how many minutes they play, they're all professionals. So
hell yeah, he has the right too. It don't matter
how many points here, how many points he had. So well,
let's not ignore the fact how how soft cake he

(01:40:42):
is and how he's uh, how sensed is he is?
And what the hell's he doing with a two put
tattoo on his leg? Man, right, that's a tattoo. The
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Grand Race and sports Book director Lamar, Mitchell Lamar, how
are you doing? Good? Good? How you do? Thank you
so much? And I was gonna say, I'm gonna see
it my man this weekend. And and Chris and I
have a present for you when we when I see you, Yes, yes, yes,
looking forward to see you absolutely. Why are your birthday drink?

(01:42:08):
That's a beautiful MGM. Graham Man. That's beautiful. All right,
Well let's get right to it. Obviously is a big
weekend in Lamar. We'll get to the gambling questions in
a moment, but first I need to ask you about
what has been our story of the day. It's been
the Twitter beef between Kevin Durant and Kendrick Perkins. If
are you on somebody's side, and if so, who's well,

(01:42:33):
uh twitter beef? You know, have you paid attention to it?
I ever looked at it today because I've been looking
at these games. But I know Kevin durank It's in
a lot of Twitter beats on Twitter with his his
own account, his other accounts. Um, but if I you know,
I love Katie. He's a great player. Kendrick Perkins, Uh, good,
good enough player. But you know Kevin Durant, I it

(01:42:56):
seems like every time he gets into Twitter beefe's a
little bit hurt. His feelings get hurt. So I don't
know exactly what Kendrick Perkins said. Well, what Katie said,
I know is something about his legacy. But I don't know.
If I had to choose a side, I try to
stay neutral on these two guys, because all right, if
I thought either one of these guys in the corner,

(01:43:16):
I wouldn't have a shot against the one up the
no no, no, you'd be asking for an autograph, for
a picture or something like exactly right. All right, let's
let's move to football. I was doing some research this
week for the Pigs getting pick off, and I found
this little nugget. Since twenty fourteen, the forty nine ers
are just one twelve and one against the spread when

(01:43:38):
they've been favored by at least six points. There are
seven point home favorites this week against the Vikings. Where
are the Sharps on this one, because history says we
should be taking the Vikings. You know what, it's it's
it's it's very it's very strange on this because the
Sharps really haven't played this when the number is still
solid seven. The tickets are much right down the middle

(01:44:01):
fifty fifty, but the betting public it's all forty nine
or money. And as we talked last week, Kirk Cousins,
he's phenomenal before you know, uh one thirty five or
in the morning he's he's phenomenal in the morning games.
But you're right that number seven Vikings should come in

(01:44:23):
and play good game because we don't know what Jimmy
Gee's gonna do. You know, his first time at the
Big Show, but the Big Dance, it's you know, it's
a it's a young team at least you know, Zimmer
has got his boys and they can say that they've
been to the playoffs before. So seven seems like it's
a high number. And and that's a good that's good
stat to throw out too. Yeah, I think I'm taking
the Vikings. Hey, lamar, let's stick to the NFC. I've

(01:44:45):
heard all week about Russell Wilson and him being sort
of a road warrior. I know, the Seahawks at eight
and one on the road this year, but Russell Wilson
has struggled historically in lambeau Field. I like the Packers here,
we're the sharps on this once again. This is this
is no sharp money here, still sitting at four and

(01:45:05):
a half on this game, and we have the tickets
again even but we have a few more tickets on
the Seahawks. But the public, Joe public is all over
the Packers because it is the Packers, the historical lambeau
Field right. Um, And you know Russell Wilson and the Seahawks.
You know they're down to the fourth three running backs,

(01:45:26):
so but you know, if it's close, you gotta take
rust in this situation. Really, Um wow, I think you
have to take rust in the situation. Wow, I'm good
with that. He's all over. They call it gambling though,
That is all right, all right. Moving to the afc Lamar.
I know the Titans are America's darlings after what they

(01:45:46):
did to the Patriots last week, but this week they
obviously got the juggernaut Baltimore Ravens. Ravens, they won twelve
straight and they head into this game. I thought this
was big, but ten point favorites, what kind of action
are you seeing on this game? Uh, money's about two
to one on the Ravens, and tickets are about two
to one on the Ravens as well, So no one

(01:46:09):
is really really buying into the Ravens coming in and
shocking the world two weeks in a row. I mean
that way. You know, you go on the road, you
take care of We just had Will black Man, he
picking the type. I know we were like, wow, yeah,
it's it is a high point spread, but you know
this is the number one. I mean, you gotta remember
in the divisional round, when the number one seed is

(01:46:31):
that much better. Supposedly they come out with that week
of rest, everyone's healthy, and they come out and they
blow everybody out. And you've seen that when the Patriots
have been the number one seed and they have that buy,
they come out and the spread might be seven, eight, nine,
whatever it is, and typically the Patriots historically have come
out and covers the spread. So um histories on the

(01:46:52):
Ravens side here, but that's why we played the games.
The other one that scares me is one twelve straight,
you know what I mean, Like, that's a lot of
game in the road that scares me. All right. It
is the couple of Fox Sports Radio. Lamar Mitchell of course,
is our guests from the MGM Grand Race and sports
book director. And let's let's stick with the AFC and Lamar.

(01:47:14):
We've got the Chiefs and the Texans. You've got two
of the most exciting and explosive quarterbacks in the league,
Patrick Mahomes and DeShawn Watson. I know everybody's expecting to shootout,
but when you see a total of fifty one, I
feel like the value is actually on the under What
can you say about that? Nothing on the total here
so far. I mean, you're right, everyone's gonna be looking

(01:47:35):
at these two quarterbacks because best playground football. You can
imagine with these two playmakers here, but the weather is
going to come in paramount. You know, the Chiefs d
has gotten healthy all year. You know, Andy Reid is
off of a bye, so Houston really didn't play that
great when they beat Buffalo. So you know, this could

(01:47:58):
be thirty four to twenty or thirty four to twenty
game or thirty four let's see twenty seven to twenty
four somewhere around there. But I gotta think with the
weather it's gonna come in it it's probably probably gonna
go under. There's only one problem, Andy read in the playoffs,
So I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, you're right about that. All right, lamar,

(01:48:19):
let's end it on this Monday night. Of course, in
a national championship LSU and Clemson. LSU opened three point favorites.
Now they've been bet all the way up to six.
I know they're good and they got Joe Burrow, but
Clemson hasn't lost in like two years. Why are up
the betters giving Dabbo's boys more respect that? I don't know.

(01:48:44):
I mean, it's it's all. It's it's very strange because
we open it here five and a half and it's
up to six, but the public is all on LSU
money line, but the Sharps seem to be on Clemson
and the point spread, so the ticket count of street
of on on LSU. And you're right. The last picture

(01:49:04):
that everyone can remember is Burrow just shredding Oklahoma and
how he played in the SEC Championship and throughout the
course of the year. And it's very strange that the
defending national champions with the coach who has been there before,
is getting no respect. Yep, that's right, all right, Well
that's our man. You know how to bet. Now, go

(01:49:24):
get your money. Lamar Mitchell, the race and sports book
director at the MGM grand I'll see you in the desert, yes, sir,
see it tomorrow. All right, brother peace, it's the moment
you've all been waiting for, alright. NFL Divisional playoff picks
are coming up next, Keep it locked. A couple of
Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of

(01:49:46):
The Odd Couple with Chris Brusar then Rob Parker weekdays
at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeart Radio app. It's The Eye Couple.
Chris Brusar, Rob park on the Funky Flashback Friday. Cheers,
Rob Parker's fifty six birthday. Oh yeah, we're popping bottles
in here. We need the lights and some singles. Oh,

(01:50:08):
there's too many guys in here. It's a sausage party.
We would need the women to be here. You just
love towing the line, don't you. Don't you? I meant
fifty six years old? Man, what're you talking about that
stuff for? I can't help you some things you just
it's hard to shake. All right, all right, let's get

(01:50:29):
to it. The pigskin pick off. You retire the odd
couple is gonna make you rich gambling corruptions, the pigskin pickoff.
That's right, it is the pick skin pick off. The
Akaba Fox Sports ready to do this every single Friday
heading into the football weekend, Chris and Rob picking NFL games.

(01:50:51):
Now we're not doing it against the spread anymore because
the regular season is Nobody cares at this point. But
we must pay respect to the birthday boy, Rob Parker,
who dominated this season. Oh man, picking U sixty percent win?
It was sixty pregame dot com? Was he sixty? He

(01:51:12):
was up there? Okay, so let's hold on. Let me
put it in the context. It's one one Now I
gotta ring. We're not talking about last year. Now congratulating you.
I'm congratulating Stop Rob Parker. I was a champ. We're
talking about twenty nineteen, not twenty eighteen. Chris, let it go.

(01:51:36):
All I'm saying is you gotta ring, and I gotta ring.
I ain't paying. Brian's last ring was twenty sixteen. Do
we forget that? No, we ain't talking about that. That's
old news. Chris. Oh, we each have a ring. Can
we move on? Can we just do this? And it
was and I still have the record because I was
sixty four percent Here we go, Here we go, You
were like fifty eight Just can't let it go. He

(01:51:58):
got lamb based at the shoot in and where's my West?
The champions here man? Ever since you brought you, ever
since you brought Alex those Jordans, I can't get no
love from Alex. The v he's got, he got, come on,
he's got on. Don't have times doing this to make
me buy him some What I don't understand is why
Chris is like, why do I get a theme music
from when I want? Last year? Right? Care? What happened

(01:52:21):
last I went to the record book, No no, my
name is in it for sixty four. Last year, Chris,
we're not talking about last year. You just got your
butt kick this year. I had the Super Bowl hangover.
All right, we keep it moving. The NFL picks can't
pick up, only picking games straight up. This week Vikings

(01:52:43):
at the Niners talking about Lamar Mitchell, Niners seven point
home favorites. Chris, who are you picking in this one?
All right? This is for all the young kids out
there listening. Rivers, the Rivers in Kentucky and all that.
Look at at Joy's putting River on blast. I'm showing
you how to pick now. I want Minnesota to win, okay,
but I believe San Francisco will win. So I'm picking

(01:53:05):
the nine Ers. I'm picking head over heart, So forty
nine ers, I'm taking the Vikings. In another upset, I'm
gonna take the Vikings. The forty nine is a way
ahead of schedule. They're not ready for prime time. Here's
a big game in a big situation, and if your
Kirk Cousins, you gotta feel big time good when you

(01:53:27):
consider what he was able to do to win that
game in New Orleans. So I'm going with the Vikings. Okay,
bold right there, Rob Parker, game number two on. You
know you gotta be bold sometimes you just can't fall
in and just take the favorites. Last week we were
both three and one. But if you wanted to pin
about the playoff, it don't matter who I want. Titans

(01:53:49):
America's team right now, taking on Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.
Ravens again ten point home favorites, making straight up though,
Rob Parker, who do you like if it was with
the Points? Man? No, but I'm picking the Ravens even
though things didn't go out that that well for them.
This is a really loaded team. If they would have
losed this game, it would be a major choke job

(01:54:11):
for the Ravens. I believe the Ravens win this. I'm
going with the Ravens as well. Lamar gets it done,
all right, We keep it moving. The picks. Can't pick
off the alka for Fox Sports Radio picking NFL Divisional
Playoff Round playoff games. Here we go, Texans at the Chiefs,
Pat Mahomes and the Boys ten point home favorites. Picking

(01:54:31):
it straight up though, Chris Russar, who you like? You know?
I'm with my man. The mahomiest touchdowns ship Patrick Mahomes,
he would have if he hadn't gotten Jordan's pat Patrick
Mahomes and the Chiefs they will win. Reluctantly, I'm picking
the Chiefs as well. Go with your heart. No, I'm
going with the Chiefs, and I've been pulling for the Texans.

(01:54:54):
I'm not pulling for him. I'm telling you, I believe
that the Chiefs should win this game against the Texans.
I wasn't impressed how they played at home against Buffalo either,
and they had They needed Buffalo to choke down ward.
Up by sixteen at one point, the Deshaun Watson went
Watson went all right. Last game of the weekend, Seahawks

(01:55:17):
traveling to Green Bay to take on the Packers. Packers
four and a half point on favorites. Aaron Rodgers is
gonna do big things we expect. Rob Parker, I'm sure
you're picking the Packers right now. I'm picking the Packers absolutely.
I think it's the best um most balanced team he's
ever had, and playing up in Lambeaux helps, and uh,
you know Aaron Rodgers, he could do a little magic.

(01:55:39):
So I'm going with Aaron Rodgers and the Packers again,
pulling for Seattle. Okay, but I'm picking Green Bay. I
think the Packers will win this. It's hard to go
head over heart, but I'm doing it so. I'd like
to see Russell pull it out, but I'm going with
the Packers. I couple have a great week at Rod
Parker happy, and we will celebrate tonight. Peace
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