Lamar, Mahomes & Rodgers - Oh My! - The Odd Couple with Rob Parker & Kelvin Washington

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Eye Couple for the next three hours. That's right, three hours.
You won't be disappointed, obviously. Lots of NFL talked to
get into after the divisional playoff round was played this
weekend and a little baseball baseball. Wow, it's like, look,
I want y'all to talk about me. Look at look

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at me? Right. I don't know if this is what
you want to talk about. But you know what, Chris,
I'll tell you this. They had to put the hammer down.
We talked about this a week ago, right, yes, and
then baseball put the hammer down. We'll get into that.
I wouldn't call it the hammer, but they hit them hard,
they did. They hit them hard. Not the ultimate hammer,
but they hit them hard. We'll get to that as well.

(01:52):
What's up man? And uh celebrated your birthday with you
on Friday. We're not going all in because we did
that on Friday. You brought a cake in for us
to celebrate, cards for us to side any of that
happy birthday. But it was a nice party Friday night.
We did. We had a good time. Elijah was there
with his beautiful wife. That was fun. Yes, we had

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a good time. A lot of people showed up. Thank
you guys. I had a great time. And then uh,
Vegas was wonderful too. This weekend. Oh yeah, yeah, you
went through you So you hung out with Lamar you know? Yes, Yes,
dropped off an odd couple sweatshirt for him. He very sided. Yes, good,
so there we go. But yes, we got so much
to loose. Welcome in the odd couple of cool Chris,

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because we wouldn't be able to do this fine radio
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is in for Alex Today. Ralph Irvin is our anchor.
He's at the anchor desk, will keep us updated throughout
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one of the best in the business. So they're all

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on the other side of the glass. Chris, we saw
it on this Magic City Monday. Well, I'll be on
side day. Let's kick some bass, all right, let's do it.
You know I'm excited already. It's only Monday. You can
keep that excitement to yourself. A stay away play on
your side of the booth, all right. But anyway, the

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big story, Rob, the big game and you. We talked
about it. What quarterback had more pressure on them? And
we debated it. I thought it was Aaron Rodgers to
hav an Aaron Rodgers type performance. You thought it was
Lamar Jackson. Rodgers was great, he was Aaron rod He
did Aaron Rodgers, made the throws he had to make.
He was he was great, he was great. He won.

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Lamar Jackson obviously lost, now set records in losing. I mean,
let me. Let me read to you his numbers. Thirty
one for fifty nine three hundred and sixty five yards passing,
twenty carries for one hundred and forty three yards, one touchdown, passing,
two interceptions though, and then one lost fumbled. First player
in NFL history with three hundred passing yards and one

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hundred rushing yard rds in a playoff game. But I look,
I don't think I have nothing like. I don't think
this is a referendum on Lamar Jackson. I think he's
a young kid. He's in his second year, not even
his second full year as a starter, but his second

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year as a starter, been starting about a year and
a half. And he lost the playoff game. Some of
the turnovers one of them wasn't his fault. The first
pass that was intercepted went off though, tight end Mark
Andrew's hands hit him in the hands and he bob
you know, went into the air off his hands was

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picked off. And then they score. The Titans score off
of that, and then they score again. They go up fourteen. Oh,
I think so. I think Lamar again, he wasn't great
as those numbers suggest, but I don't think he was terrible.
By any means. But the only thing I'll say about
this game as to him as a player, is it

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shows you that if you get down they were down
fourteen oh, if you and twenty eight six, if you
get down with his style of play, it's gonna be
incredibly tough on you, even if because you know he's
gonna run the ball and then you force him to
pass if they're down. He's the good pastor, but not
elite yet, right, And even if you're running with success,

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you're still leading up the clock. And so the Titans
had the formula, they ran the ball on them and
they couldn't come back. Think about it, it's one of
the biggest upsets in the history of the National Football League.
I think only six teams that have won fourteen games
or more wound up losing, you know, having a divisional round.

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I mean that says a lot. I do believe it's
a referendum on Lamar Jackson and his style. And from
this standpoint, Chris, this ain't no first time. This is
the second time. Last year when they were he had
a six and one record and they played the Chargers,
they fell behind, couldn't come back. It changed everything and

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he made it look good and the score close at
the end because you know they're in prevent you get
to throw the ball around. Chris, that Leo's quite as
bad as life. But am I right? I mean they're
not what they The numbers aren't what they look right,
And this one and this year too. You know I
saw people trying to like give them a pass. Why
at five of your yard? You can't blame him. They
had three big turnovers as well, And when you admit

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though the first one is yeah, but it's still three turnovers.
All I'm saying is, yes, we've seen this before where
it's off of a receiver's hand and somebody else intercepts it.
But if I'm if I'm looking, I'm not saying he
can't playing the league, Chris, they can never win with
with with him. When that's not what I'm saying. A
super Bowl, I'm not saying that. So if I'm not

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saying that, I'm saying what I'm saying, you have to
look at it. It does come into question when he
had he had the most dominating regular season we couldn't.
We've seen they won twelve straight. They went through everybody
that the quote unquote good teams on the road, they
beat everybody, and then they come and they fall behind

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and everything falls apart. We saw it last year, we
saw it this year. And you know what, for everybody
who keeps saying, well, he's young and he'll get back
and they'll get to the super Bowl, I'm just saying
that's what they said about Dan Marino on his second
year when he put up unbelievable numbers, went to the
Super Bowl and didn't win. They just had a team
that had twelve Pro Bowlers, a dominant quarterback, right a

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home game, first round, by everything that you wanted there
to win that game, and they couldn't get it done
because the quarterback couldn't come back once he fell into
a hole. I'm afraid of that when it comes to
the style of play and maybe that he has to
evolve a little bit. Well he does happen. You would

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you agree with that he even throughout the regular season,
rob even in their wind saying he can't play Chris, No, no,
he is. As long as you're saying that, And if
you're you said, you're not even saying they can't win
a Super Bowl. I don't know if they can playing
this way, but I'm saying, you'd have to make some
adjustments to him, and he'd have to be able to
throw the ball with better accuracy as we move forward,

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to be able to say, all right, with down twenty
one point, I could get that back. I'm not good. Well,
look if they had, if they had been in the
situation that Kansas City was in down twenty four, and look,
it wasn't mahomes Is fault. It were flute plays that
the first touchdown for um who Kansas City for to

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Houston Houston was a blown coverage. Then they get the
block punt, then Tyreek Hill drops the punt like those
are three things that are completely out of the offenses control.
But the bottom line is, if if Lamar Jackson had
been down twenty four, oh, he probably can't do what
Pat Mahomes did. Now. They caught some breaks too, but

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he probably can't do what Mahomes did right now. And
that's because they got a run. That's the scary part.
And some of the elite quarterbacks Chris, they come back,
they come back from defer. Since you know what I mean,
he's not Lamar is not yet an elite pass But
you have to be able to throw your way back, right, yeah,
if you're gonna come back, because one, it doesn't need
up as much time, and it gives you big chunks

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of yard nigue and right, rick scores to get back
into a game like that, And and I don't know
if he's there yet, but for people to act like
or pooh pooh it, now, that was a bad stinker
in a big situation. And that's why I said I
thought he had the most pressure, Chris, because it wasn't
just about that game and where they were. It was

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about the style of playing. All the naysayers who keep
saying you can't win a super Bowl. Nobody's ever been
able to win the Super Bowl doing that, And that's
those people have come out of the woodwork, you know
that after a game like that, Look until he wins
one playing this style, people are going to say that
because we've never seen it with any of the quarterback

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I mean hardly any have played like this other than
maybe Michael Vick. But he obviously didn't win a super Bowl.
And to your point, in the eleven game win streak
that they had in the regular season, six of them
Lamar through for under two hundred yards. So even in
the regular season rob when they were winning, they were

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not hitting their receivers for the most part. I mean
most of it was passes to the running backs and
the tight ends. And so the thing like last year
he improved dramatically as a passer right in the off season.
This year, what his improvement needs to be on hitting
his wide receivers, hitting the people outside the lines. And

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so if he can hit his guys on the outside
the receivers, that's the next step of development for him.
And then you can you know, as the years goes on,
he's gonna he's not gonna run as much, and probably
every year he'll run a little bit less. But here's
here the numbers, and these are just the hard cold numbers.
Owing two in the postseason, three touchdowns, five turnovers. That

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that's that's what we've seen in the postseason. And I
you want to talk about having one of the most
dominating seasons I've seen as from a quarterback, is what
what he had. He just wasn't able to make it
happen in the postseason. And that and you know even
if the look on his face did you see him
after was it the first turnover, he's on the bend
he was up, he was shorty my right, and I

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and I got it, be honest, that was at times
I didn't like his body language. I get it you
hate losing even something from with himself, right, But still
you can't you can't show that like you gotta be
a little cooler customer. Pat Mahomes, I saw it exactly different, right,
and even down twenty four nothing, You know, there's plenty

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of time. You gotta get into your game, and you
can't get down on yourself even if you give up
something early, do you know what I mean? And I
looked at the video and I didn't like, I'm with
you the body language and the and the look on
his face was not hear something though, Rob, and I'm
still in Jackson's corner. I was not convinced they were
gonna roll through the playoffs or even get to the

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super Bowl in Kansas City. I didn't think. I Yeah,
I picked them to win against Tennessee, but obviously Tennessee's
got a Formula's tough to deal if they get you
down because they got the big Derrek Henry and Kansas
City's gonna have to deal with that too. But here's
the thing, Peyton Manning obviously all time great, oh and

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three in his first three years in the playoffs. Owen
three rob his first and in his first three years.
One touchdown and two interceptions in his first three playoff games.
But we're talking about three touchdowns and five turnovers in two, right,
I mean, but I'm just saying it's like so, So
my point is that guys can struggle early in the playoffs,

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and that doesn't mean like obviously people have may have
said about Manning at one point he can't win the
bit he won it, but then they still criticize him
because he only had one and he goes he walks
away with two. So I definitely don't think Jason. That
also tells you how heart it is to win it,
even a guy like him, who who had all the

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numbers in the MVP, right, I mean, it was prolific
and he only got one really as a quarterback. And
remember they beat the Bears in the poorn rain in Florida,
and who was a Rex Grossman. He'd beat Rex Grossman.
Now that's his only Super Bowl, right, all right, it's
the eye couple of Chris Bruce or Rod Parker. You're
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eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty three sixty nine
was Saturday's blowout loss to the Titans, a referendum on
Lamar Jackson and his style. Of course, they're backing. We'll
continue the conversation with you. Next, it's The Eye Couple
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to Atlanta? How many Chris could No? I don't know
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We threw it out to you. Was this loss on
the week over the weekend a referendum on Lamar Jackson
and his style of playing quarterback? You'll turn away in

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Max from Georgia. You're up first with Chris and Rob.
Hey fellas, I'm calling to eat my crow. I said
the Ravens were gonna be in the super Bowl, but
the forty nine ers, that is not gonna happen. I
think it is a referendum on his record. I gotta say,
because the style is great for the season, it's even
great for a playoff game maybe, but I don't think
it can get you to the final game. I was

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I was concerned about the Chiefs because they got all
that offense, right, you can fall behind market down. He
just can't do it. And the Titans came out and
smacked him in the mouth, and I just think they
got a momentum going. You look at the old Eagles
from two thousand and eighteen and the Packers from two
thousand and ten, it seems like they're a wild card team,
maybe maybe destined to get there. The thing I'll say
about Lamar right at this point, I appreciate it. The

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jump he made an improvement as a passer from last
year to this year. If he can make that type
of jump this year, you know, coming to next season,
I think he'll be fine. I just think that there's
you got you got uh enough, um, not evidence, but
enough like uh what do you call him when you

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compile some numbers to yeah, like you know what I mean?
Like it's not a small sample, right, not anymore to
rely too playoff games. But this one was not nearly
as bad a year. But if he was bad last
I don't think he was bad. He just couldn't He
couldn't get in and what and once he was down,
that's the scary part. All right, Brandon in Atlanta, you're

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on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What you
got hey? I love the show. By the way, I
want I want to say what you changed the name
on Monday for Magic City Monday to Monday because because no, no,
this is not a referendum, lamar I Actually this Marky's
Brand's a great young talent. Mark Andrews is a decent

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tight end. But on his team, who took over that
game for the Chiefs It was Travis Kelsey took over
that game. Work player on the Baltimore Ravens is even
equivalent to Travis Kelsey. But wait a minute. They destroyed
everybody all year and one twelve game. Don't tell me
now they don't got anybody. I'm not buying that. What

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were they doing it with smoking mirrors in the regular
season or the same quick Cats, the same twelve Pro bowlers.
What are you talking about. You can't tell me he
doesn't have anybody, Brandon, I'm not buying it. It's not
the same caliber of teams in the regular season. All
these teams that they beat, they beat good teams. They
beating the beat good teams in the regular season. They

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beat good teams. I feel you. Look, I don't think
their receivers are as good as cancer. No, but I'm
saying but they I'm just saying that that they put
up numbers and ditch stuff, Chris. During the regular season,
they beat the Patriots, they beat the Chiefs. A lot
of those Pro bowlers were Pro bowlers because of Lamar Jackson,
the record he led them to. They weren't Pro bowlers. Uh,

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thanks for the call, Brandon, appreciate it. They were Pro
bowlers on Sunday, though they weren't. Let's go down to
Albert in Florida. Albert, you're on with Chris and Rod. Hey,
how are you guys? How are you guys doing? Um great?
I think it was I think it was a team effort.
Then the team let him down. Everybody played bad. The coach.
I love the coach. I'm a raven. Sand I wrote
the punk called three of the Ravens, Something the Raven about.
I was on the sideline one time and Rayby had

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twenty nineteen tackles against the Niners. I love them, but
we should have kicked that punt, not put the pressure.
I'm not going for fourth down. It's a long game.
We're not playing the Chiefs. We got plenty of time
to catch up. We went away from our game running
and passing, and we tochure to just smashed mouthed it
and got up incremental. We had plenty of time to
do it. But you would always go for it on fourth. No, no,

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that you know. And the other thing that was shocking
was they were eight for eight during the regular season
and one at fourth and one, and then two times
in this game. Lamar can't get there, and even Chris
the move like it's just yeah, you might when you
have a QB sneak, you need to just dive. You
can't trying to make something happen going for the big play.

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Just go just do want to just go forward to
the yard and get the forward progress and you get
the yard. That's all you need. Let's go to Steve
and Louisianao with the eye couple, Chris and Rob. How
y'all doing great show? Is uh? I don't think it's
any kind of thing on lamar Is. I think he's
a young man that's learning how to play professional football quarterback.

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And I think he as soon as he learns to
not take it personal as a reflection on the bar is,
he'll learn to trust his players more. He'll know who's
hip to dive off of when he dives over to
make that one yard, and he'll learn how to raise
his team up instead of sault. Because he did that,

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it's not Louisville ain't the only thing right. That's a
good call. That's a good call. I think that's a
good call because he did. He did his sucking didn't
seem like he was upset with his teammates. It may
have been upset with himself. But you can't get down
like that. You're the leader. They're looking for you, Chris.
If you're on the bench and you're wallowing in it,
No you can't. She's gotta be like, come on, man,

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all right, got they gotta chunch down. What did we
think we're gonna shut him out? We didn't think they
were gonna shut him out? Did we think we work
on score? Mark and Sacramento, you're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio shout and Sacramento. Uncle from another mother?
What's up? Sean? Sean, sorry about that? What's up? But
it's all it's all good, Mark, Big Kevin. But we're

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all gonna say, is I don't know how any of
this is gonna put on Lamar Jackson's shoulders. Man, he
put up historic numbers offensively, Yeah, but that's not what
We're not poo pooing that. But don't act like he
played exactly and then and you can't figure out, right,
come on, they lost because the defense they only put

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up twelve point Sean, they only put up twelve points.
This was an historic offense during the regular season. I
get it. The defense wasn't good, but you can't act
like Lamar had this great game, look at the number,
but he also had three turnovers which pushed the defense
in a bad spot. So you just can't look at
it like that and act like the defense, you know
what I mean, like didn't do what's part. And they

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had five drives It started out on the twenty one
yard liner. Closer five, But how many drives did they have?
Man converted way more to the compared to the team
that they lost. I'm with you in that he wasn't horrible.
He wasn't, but you can't like he was. You think
he was great. Yeah, you can't do that. That's where

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that's where you get like crazy and you go, well,
you can't. It's not his fault. No, no, no, come on, man,
let let's be honest and do a real conversation. He
wasn't terrible, Chris, but he was. He was part of
the reason they lost, no question all. Look the first pass,
as I said, it was his fault. But it's still
that happens. Happens to a lot, even the fumble. You
can understand it, but you game, you can't let that

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stuff happen. What happened in the Super Bowl with Brady.
Brady had a striped sack right and lost the football
Philly got it didn't won the Super Bowl. That how
those things can't happen? Eric and Kalamazoo. You're on with
Christ and Rob. You got about thirty seconds. He was Chris,
Chris and Rob same man. They was rusty, they had
to buy. They was off ingroom was hurt through Cadillac

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running back like running back on another side of the table.
They just knocked off the world champs. They swowed, they've
been knocking off everybody. They got a serious running back
that didn't have to do nothing. Cousins. They scored in
the second half and I'll be just talking about Jackson
Cousin make thirty millions. They have got blank Rob. Just
just like when you be hating on Lebron and Lebrian
keeps shouting and can't credit round of this cat after

(22:50):
second year because you can't beat this cast that knocked
off the world Chapter Cat that might win everything. That
was one of the greatest upsets of a team that
won fourteen games. Don't act like it was nothing. It
doesn't happen. He dominated the regular year and he was horrible,
but it wasn't good enough to win? How about that?

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I'll use that word. Wasn't good enough? All right? Can
Derek Henry carry the Titans to the Super Bowl? Titans
legend Eddie George has the answer next, but first, be
sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern
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Radio app. We got a great guest on the line.

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He's the former Titans All Pro running back ran a
little bit like Derek Henry. It has been doing lately.
It's Eddie George. Eddie, welcome to the alcohol that's happening.
What's up, guys, how y'all doing the day? We're great?
Got that football player neck? Yes, that's the one thing.

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It's changed over to a golf next. Okay, I was
the one thing I always just say, man, look how
his neck in? Wow? Well, Eddie. They've been telling us
all really the last few years that the running pact
back position doesn't matter. It's they don't play them, they
don't want to. You don't need a Bell Cole anymore.

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And Derek Henry seems to be changing all of that.
What are your thoughts on what he's been doing and
what he's been doing in relation to all the comments,
all the talk about the new NFL and all that stuff.
Don't need running backs? Well you obviously you know you
need a running game in December in January, those are
the most important months. And no matter who you are,

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no matter how many yards you throw for between September
and October, touchdown passes, this, and that, you need a
potent running attack to win the championship and the strong defense.
That's the partner formula. It's always been that way. It's
never going to change. I mean, the teams that have
wanted the past, they may have been passing teams at

(24:58):
the beginning of the season, but they had to have
a running game in the end. So that being said,
the running back has always been an important part of
the game. Now dere Kim reeves bringing it back to
the mid nineties and the early two thousands, and I
mean he's just taking it on thirty carries a game
and dominating and just imposing his will on defenses. And

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now you have these defenses that are built to stop quick,
fast receivers and running backs coming out the backfield is
not as physical and they're not built for that. And
you know, teams that are specifically being able to handle
the run are being exposed. So I'm not at all
surprised at his success. The man has everything you want.

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He's a unique blend of skills from speed to size
to intimidation, and I'm really thrilled to see what he's
been doing been able to do in the playoffs so far, Eddie.
A lot of people were saying, dude, you don't want
to see the Titans defensively. They're physical, they got a big,
bruising running back. Tannehill has been playing great football, right,

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don't turn it over all the things, especially in the
playoffs when you can when you can run the football
and what does the average one hundred and eighty eight
yards in the two playoff games. When you can do
that too, you also keep that star quarterback on the
other side line because you can control the clock when
you can run the football, right, Yeah, And it disrupts

(26:24):
the chemistry and the timing of offense that needs that.
You know when you when you're sitting in the sideline
for thirty forty minutes, you know that that disrupts your
chemistry and your flow. So when you have a guy
like that that gets throw the clock and the metallic
in the philosophy like that, that's what you wanted as
a team. And you look at the Titans, they really

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don't need the quarterback that throw it for three hundred
two hundred yards. She's gonna have to undact or even
or even ninety right right right. He just has to
make a couple of plays here or there, hand the
ball ofcom get off the way, and don't make mistakes,
don't turn it all. And that's the formula. But my
hat it has to go off the Dants and Mike

(27:08):
Rabel for coming up with a defensive strategy for both
in New England Patriots certainly the Baltimore Ravens, and they
really pierced the veil. It really pierced the veil on
the Baltimore raven offense in terms of not slowing down
or containing not slowing down or stopping Lamar Jackson, but
containing him. He was was to beat them in the

(27:29):
first quarter, get ahead of them in the first quarter,
and forced him to throw more than they have to run.
And as you saw, without Lamar Jackson's touches, they only
had nine carriages between Mark mark Ingram and the other
running back for Baltimore, and that's they need. They needed
more production out of the running back position for that
that one game to go. So it was it was

(27:51):
thrilling to see that former Titans All Pro running back
Eddie George joining the alt Eddie is you know, part
of me is saying today that it's a little bit
of a referendum. This the second year in the road
of Ravens have fallen behind with Lamar Jackson and once
you once you get ahead of them, it seems like
it's harder for them when you force him to be

(28:12):
just really a passer and you don't have as much
time to just run the ball. Is this the formula
to beat a guy like this? Is the jump jump
on them and get ahead and then it changes the
game plan. Well, if you look at what they've been
able to do, that success came in the first quarter.
They were able to jump out ahead of the defense
the deepest got a three and out. We would have

(28:32):
the team throats right, build a lead, and that was
tough to come back from. Now Jackson can just sit back.
They do play action, get the Titans involved and it
is wearing you and that that was the key to it.
So for the Titans, it was a matter for them
to win the first quarter, get a three, and ount

(28:54):
get a turnover. And the turnover was really with the
key in the game because it did a lot of things,
allow them to get the ball back, score and get
into Lamar Jackson's head for a moment and he was
able to settle down that the experience of the game,
the pressure of being a number one seed, the pressure
of people saying it should be in the super Bowl,
and so forth started to set in on those guys,

(29:15):
and it just a rabbit from that point on. Eddie.
It was a slow start for Derek Henry in his career.
We remember what he was at Alabama. He comes into
the NFL, had about twelve hundred yards his first two
years combined, wasn't a full time starter. I don't know
if you know him or did you talk to him
during that time, what do you think kind of you know,

(29:37):
enable him to become this star that he's become really
over these last two years after kind of struggling his
first two years. Well, Derek and I he called me
after the game last season, not just pass these but
twenty eighteen after the London game against the Chargers, and
he was a bye week and I could fit his

(29:57):
frustration in them because his ed man, tell me exactly
what you see and be honest. And basically I told him,
you know, I said, you know what we want to
see for out of you is out of you can
hit the home run. We know you can hit a
long home run. It's what you do in between that
what matters your two hundred and fifty pounds. You need
to impose your will on defenses. I gave him him

(30:20):
an example of what I was talking about. I said,
in the game against the Chargers, you had a chance
to square up Merriweather, who he outweighed by twenty pounds.
He didn't square him up in the hole. He elected
to try to go outside. He got tackled for an
easy for easy loss. And I said, that's the stuff
that I'm talking about. You need to set up their runs.
You need to square him up, dare him to tackle you.

(30:43):
And what's going to happen is if you want to
break his tackle, you want to fall Howard for five
six yards and over time, defenses are want to get
tired of seeing that. So just change the mentality. Use
your short runs as body blows, set up your longer runs.
You have to treat it like a heavy weight fight.
And that's what he's been able to good and he
and he talked to other running backs, but you know

(31:05):
that's that's the mentality that I had to have. And
you were close to his side, so it probably means
a lot coming from you because you you had to
do the same thing, absolutely, absolutely, and it's uh, it's
it's unreal to see what he's been doing. And I'm hoping,
I'm like Larry, that he's doing a little too much

(31:29):
right to slow down? Right. Well, when I saw the
records he had, considering that the franchises had you and
Earl Campbell, I was like, man, that's saying something when
he's breaking Titans records, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah he
has been. But and I don't think it's over, man.
I think he's just now scratched the surface because, like
you mentioned earlier, two years, the first two years he

(31:52):
was splitting time, so he doesn't have he still had
a lot of tread attire. So it's going to be
interesting to see how the Titans we act to his
contract because he needs to be played right made, not
as a running back, but as the player. That's a
different different because he's not been like you said, he
hadn't been used up you know, years right now. Obviously,

(32:14):
obviously you expect your former team to win. But I
think they have the formula to beat the Chiefs, I
really do, and be the Chiefs in the regular season. Yeah,
that's that's different. But you know, I think they're gonna
I think they're going to win this game. And Rob's
not great at prediction. I've been killing it at the
all football season. I'm picking the Titans to upset the

(32:37):
Chiefs in this game. I know it's the seven point spread,
But am I crazy? Now? You're not crazy? I mean
they went into New England, knocked off the defending champs.
They went in the Baltimore knocked off the number one
seed and the MVP embarrassed, to be honest with you.
Now they played, They face the team who they've had
success within the task at Arrowhead Stadium two years ago.

(32:58):
Completely different set of the circums chances, different teams. But
from a mental standpoint, you've been there, You've done it. Now.
What concerns me, though, is that Kansas City came of
age in that game against Houston. Some of those twenty
four nothing, some of those mombers are fraudulent, Be careful,
some of those numbers are fraudulent. No, well, the mentality,

(33:19):
but just to overcome that in the middle of the
game though. Uh from a from a psyche standpoint, that
that game could have could have been over. They could
have got blown out here thirty five US three whatever,
but they put up fifty one to seven. Wow, all right,
that's strong. It's strong statement. And I know they got
the nun they got the fumble and they went forward
on fourth down the fake point give them a short field.

(33:41):
But to have to execute and to the finish those
drives the way they did was pretty impressive. But I
think that Titans still u has an upperhead in this
one being an unders off. All right, the Great and
the Eye couple, thanks a lot, man. We appreciate it
and not the problem. May'll be good, all right. The
Clemson Tigers haven't lost the game in two years and

(34:02):
they still can't get any respect. We'll get into that next.
It's the EU Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch
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Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. Getting
ready for this big game tonight. I'm excited, Rob Lsu.
You know I'm a Pelican born in the Bayou, born

(34:26):
in Baton Rouge, and it's football country down Cleveland. No, Chris,
I moved around a lot. I was born Louisiana, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Okay,
And you spent what five minutes? You had a cup
of coffee and the sweet rollers of baby I was
a baby. Yeah, we moved when I was so five

(34:48):
six months. Well, my mom didn't even burn you. My
mom grew up there. My dad was born in Louisiana.
Bruce has brus art Is like Smith and louis There's
a town don't name bruce Are the street in the
French Quarter. Name bruce Are the restaurant. Yeah, it's Bruce Hardis.
So all my family roots are in Louisiana. So don't

(35:09):
try to take away. I'm not taking this. Is my
team about to win the national show. All that's one
of the twenty nine five. Well, yeah, it's twenty nine
in a row. Trevor Lawrence the quarterback has never lost.
He is legit but so always. But I think Burrow
has Look, they both have great skill position players, but

(35:31):
I think Burrow's got more. I want to see, Uh Burrow,
can he complete this magical greatest quarterback season ever? That's
really what it's all right, Yeah, Like that's what I
want to because it because it doesn't count or not
doesn't count, but it doesn't if you don't complete it,
if you don't win the championship, it just doesn't have

(35:52):
the same field, So it doesn't and it won't go
They can't go down. It's the best quarterback in season
in NC double A history. If you don't feel and
you gotta finish the job, especially when you're number one.
You know, if they were number six and totally went
as far as they could and lost the last game,
that's one thing. But you know, you've been number one
pretty much all year. And here's the thing. You you're
big for this. You're a stickler for this. Rod Parker,

(36:15):
who'd you beat? LSU beat six? There's a record six
teams that were ranked in the top ten when they
played Climpson be one and it was just a couple
of weeks ago. Hid state. And that's what I always
talk about. It just doesn't matter who you beat, it
tells you a lot about This is why I'm on
the Green Bay Packers, who are now not in one
against team. I'm on the package. I'm telling you right now.

(36:38):
I was three and one this weekend. You weren't ivolve
Christian game. My god, there's only four games. One game
is a lot Chris twenty five percent, which picked all
the favorites, the whole favorite? Yes? You did? Did I
pick the Francist goo? You picked all the whole favorite?
How easy is that? The bottom? It's about being right? No,

(37:01):
it's not about the eas news that a hot take
like you, Why don't you pick Clemson in so so?
You you're picking the LSU of course because I'm from
the Bayou. Ain't because that's the and I know they're
the better team out on them. I'm about being right.
I'm about being right. That's what hap That's why I've
beaten you during the postseas. Let's see. Oh, I'll tell

(37:21):
you Toronto in six Can I go? Can I go?
We can go? Oh? Yeah, we're getting in here, we go.
I got a question for you, how is it picking
the reigning national champions with twenty nine straight wins, going
out on the limb, thank you, because then what's your called?
Because they're under dogs in this game, so so you're
not picking them, You're bringing Clemson. No, I'm picking out

(37:44):
saying all that madness. You were just talking. I'm talking
for you because you always take the easy way with
your heart. No, No, I told you how I have.
I feel that with your head. I have a feel
for stuff. Right, you had to feel about the vikings.
I've been, I've been. You said you had to feel
about the vice is what does that tell us about
your field? I realized it was I had and it

(38:04):
wasn't the football thinking I was thinking about. It was
something you had. Uh you drank at your part. I
don't know, drank whatever it was. The problem was I
didn't eat and I was just drinking. Oh you had
a problem. Friday there, I had left before for you
and they'd offer that I get driven home. Well anyway, yeah,

(38:27):
we both got LSU. And how about ed Orgeron? Though
I remember people were mocking him. They didn't like he
got the job, and they didn't like his voice or
some craziness. That was why paging country boy. Yeah, not
not sophisticated enough. But man, what a turnaround. He's done
with that program and look for him, man, Right, his

(38:50):
moment is here, His moment is here. This is the
one you don't want to get away with. Right. And
for Clemson, it's about respect. They win this that it
be three championships in four years. You gotta get mad
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(39:37):
Chris Brusar sixty eight on The Graham All Right, we
will be joined by our good friend, one of our
favorite guests of the week, Hall of Fame defensive back
Rod Woodson at the bottom of the hour. I'm interested
to hear about the game from Ray. It'll be great
to talk to him, great to talk to him about
this weekend's action and going forward to next weekend. And

(39:58):
we will, of course get back to the the NFL
in a little bit a bottle shop an eye on this.
This college championship LSU Clemson that's about to get underway.
But yeah, Rob Parker, you you are the baseball guy.
I love it. It's what you're about. And Rob, I
gotta be honest, I can't help but think it's the

(40:20):
dirtiest sport in America. I'm just two teams got busted
and football is just you know, it's just the Patriots. Okay.
I don't know if any like anything like this in basketball,
but in baseball. All right, here, here's what happened, folks.
The Houston Astros both they they got you. You'll say

(40:46):
it's the death pendant. I won't say that, but I
think it is in baseball when you take away drive picks. Yeah,
it's big. So winners of the twenty seventeen World Series,
of course, they're general manager Jeff lou Now and manager
ag A. Hinch were suspended for a year by the
league after they're investigating and what geisha into the cheating

(41:07):
scandal where they used technology to steal signs and sowing
and so forth the plate. But then their owner Jim
Crane fired lou Now and A. J. Hinch and Alex
Core I think you think they got the deafinalty. I
really think he's getting it. Remember, manager for the Boston

(41:29):
Red Sox left Houston, went to Boston and apparently was
basically took his cheating that he learned in Houston, or
maybe he was the mastermind. Who knows in Houston because
they didn't say it was Hinch, They just said Hinch
should have been responsive person responsible. He knew the players
were cheating and the coaches and he didn't put a

(41:49):
kai bosh on it. But Core went to the Red
Sox basically took the cheating there, and he's going to
he's really in trouble. They're waiting for him to complete
the ball to the next Red Sox investigation. But calling
the twenty eighteen season, and if you're a Dodger fan,
you're not happy because you went to the World Series
in seventeen against Houston laws and eighteen against the Red Sox,

(42:11):
and both have been caught apparently cheating. They're doing the
Red Sox investigation and we'll find out. But Chris, I
think Rob Manford, the commissioner, did a good job. I
really do. I've never been into taking away championships. They
do it in college takedown the banners. We all saw it.
You could say Reggie Bush didn't win the Heisman. I

(42:32):
don't care. I saw Reggie Bush win the Heisman, so
you know what I mean. So and everybody said or
put an asterisk. There's not one asterisk in any record book.
What stopped saying that? One into a mental ass But
you shouldn't have, and you should exactly. So I'm not
with that. I thought that they did five million dollars

(42:53):
suspended to two guys for for a year now. Chris,
maybe the owner said to the Major League base Ball
two don't worry, you know what I mean, whenever you
give them, they're not gonna be here. And that's why
they didn't have to go lifetime band. They knew that
they were going to get fired and lose their jobs,
which I think was the right thing to do by
the owner of the astro. You gotta restore trust. And

(43:16):
he's right. He claimed that they didn't start the stuff
to cheating, but they didn't do anything about it. And
it's organizational cheating. And I don't And you know, I
know Justin Verlander from Detroit. I covered him. He's very
vocal when it comes to cheating and steroids. We have
not heard a peep from Justin Verland and he knew.

(43:38):
I mean, he's a mission but there's no way he
didn't know. There's no way. Half three quarters you don't
dug out. Everybody knows there's no way. But we haven't
heard anything. And all I'm saying is they had to
do something to send them message they're not playing. It
took away draft picks twenty twenty one, right, I think
it's twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, is at

(44:00):
it or twenty and twenty one first round and second
round picks in twenty in the next two years next,
So so that that hurts an organization. Uh, here's here's
the suspension and then the five million dollar fie And
we know money is no right, that's nothing for professional teams.
But still I believe Rob that they should have vacated

(44:23):
the titles, really and he would have made you feel better?
Are you you're gonna misremember that they won the champion.
They still got champion. They have championships or a championship
that let's let's keep it real that there's a good
chance you don't deserve seeing college. When players are punished
for cheating, it wasn't cheating during the game, it wasn't

(44:47):
cheating at the sport. It was you know, whatever it is, understand,
but you still earned the championship or however far you
went on the field on the court. That's my thing.
Like like you mentioned the Dodgers kind of tongue in cheek,
and we don't know what would have happened. You don't know,
but I think we can say with confidence that the

(45:09):
Astros cheated on the playing field and therefore didn't deserve
that World Series ring. And if you take away the
World Series ring banners, you know, just take it away vacated,
don't give it to the Dodgers, don't give it to
anybody else. Vacated. There's no champion that year. I think
that takes away any incentive to cheat from from an

(45:34):
organizational standpoint. Now, individual players, you still may want to
cheat to get your contract, to get big contract. But
for an organization, if I'm not going to get to
keep the World Series that we won, then why in
the world would all out you the can of worms
you open up. Here's a can of worms, you open up.

(45:54):
Here's the problem. Can people have a class action suit? Chris,
you're telling me that that didn't counter whatever, like like
fans warning their money back like you told me. I'm
just I'm just saying you open I don't think you could.
You don't think well, but you open up a can
of worms, you also have I think, uh the money

(46:15):
stand from the from the money standpoint, Oh no, no,
uh the way said the NFL did it. This is
why I'm okay with what Baseball did when they hit
the Patriots. Bill Belichick didn't get suspended, did not have
and and Baseball suspended the general manager and the manager
to say this won't be tolerated. I think that's awesome,

(46:39):
like like and we had talked about this, and I said,
anybody who knew it was in management has to be suspended.
This ain't no fine and just draft picks. You have
to suspend the people who turned their heads and didn't
do anything about it. That's what I love about what
Fred Manford did. I Rob man Rob. I agree that

(47:02):
baseball came down hard, and I'm not you know, you know,
I'm not gonna raise a saber and say, oh, you
should have done more, You should have done more. In
my opinion, though, I do think they should have taken
the championships. The Houston Nastrows are still world champions. You
cheated and they're still world champions. What now? Verlander is
a Hall of Famer anyway, but him going to Houston

(47:24):
and resurrected his career and pitching great there. Now, to
some degree you erase that, you know, and if they
were cheating, you should. So the owner was asked Crane, Yeah,
was asked if the World Series was taining? Of course,
his answer was no, come on, how can it not be?
But but I agree, and I think that your punishment

(47:45):
is that people don't feel good. It's like the Patriots.
It's like the Patriots. You could say, Chris with all
the winning and the dynasts to two back end dynasties
or whatever, three in a row and three out of
four whatever it was. The thing that people still hold
on too is everybody doesn't acknowledge or give the Patriots
their due because they don't feel good about what went on.

(48:09):
Even though I'm to a small degree, I mean, you're
one of the guys out there beating the you know,
but most people, I mean, you admit this, even though
you don't think Brady's the goal. Most people wouldn't you
say that we see on television, that we see on radio,
that we have on our show interview them. Most people
do think he and Belichick are the goats. Now, now

(48:30):
they were never caught, you know, in a Super Bowl
year winning a Super Bowl for talking about it. But
let's say let's say that have been caught in one
of those years, and you know, maybe Belichick gets suspended
for a year or whatever, but they don't take away
the title. You're still saying he and Brady have six rings.

(48:51):
But if they took you, as a guy that argues
against the Patriots, if they took away one or two
of those rings, now they only got four or five,
you have a much stronger argument against them when they
only got four rings, five rings versus six. But we
all watched and I'm just but we know they again,

(49:11):
the Astros cheated on the feed. It was different from
the college kid who took money away from the field.
But the only problem is, even with or without, you
don't know that the Dodgers were gonna win. Or of
course that's the problem. Why risk Why do something that risky?
I mean, heck, no, get their jobs. It may lose

(49:32):
their careers. That's another thing. Look, these jobs, they're thirty
teams in Major League Baseball. Those jobs are a privilege.
Let's keep it especially right, We've talked about it, especially
now that managers are really in many cases getting their
directors from the front office. Right, So I say they

(49:53):
blew that privilege. They should It should be a band
from being a manager. Yeah, because they're gonna they're gonna
have some of their boys, some of their good old
boys that they know in the league him in a
few years as consultants at scouts. They're gonna cushy little job,
make good money and be fine, and they probably won't
be a manager in a GM again. But I don't

(50:16):
think they should be allowed to be managers and GMZ.
This was interesting. I got a text from a former
Astro scout today. I'm gonna read it too. I'm gonna
read a little piece of it said a lot Andy,
and it was like, kind of, I got this thing.
It says it's kind of karma honestly about the Astros,
and I was like, really karma. And he says a

(50:38):
lot of the industry working force or scouts have probably
hated and resented the astros since their strategy of relying
on technology and analytics heavily when they let goist a
lot of Scouts. They made a lot of enemies letting
go Scouts in twenty seventeen, and this is when they instituted. Yeah,
so this is real deep like where they were. And

(51:00):
it says also their strategy of tanking has changed the
scope for free agency, so veterans lost money and jobs
because teams uh value just rebuilding like we saw in
Miami with Derek jeteris franchise right. People are following that
through the draft picks and are saving money for later.
So so there's a whole thing. And I thought that

(51:21):
was interesting by the Scout that that they made a
lot of enemies and then you could tell why, like okay,
if you could go that route quits, if you kind
of have an inside track on with the technology and
you know, AJ hitch never made out a lineup because
they had the analytics, right, So it's what they were
doing was totally different. But now you know kind of

(51:42):
why because they had an advantage, right, And so now
when you look at the Astros and how good they
were in their organization, it don't feel as good anymore, No,
not at all. But but you it really wouldn't feel
good without those titles, right, that one title. Think about it,
They're only one in history, right, all right, you'll turn
away In eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven,

(52:04):
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should they have taken away the title? Should they vacate
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if that continues. And so far it is. Now they

(53:12):
just crossed the thirty. About to jump into the red zone.
All right, We're gonna jump into these calls with you.
Eight seventy seven ninety nine on Fox the Major League
Baseball Get it right? Agree with me that they should
have vacated the twenty seventeen World Series title. Let's start
with Ryan in Washington. Ryan, you know, with Chris and
Robb and how's it going, guy? I think based all

(53:36):
messed it up. Um. My opinion is, I got many
different things I have to say about this, but number one,
Pete Rose has been banned out of baseball for cheating
or for gambling as a manager. Ryan this day is
in the Hall of Fame as a player. And I
mean these guys are actually cheating in the game. Um,
I mean it's also screwed up. You got players in

(53:57):
the hall him that took steroids. Everything's kind of no, Ryan,
I don't I don't disagree, But you think they should
have taken the title, Ryan, I think they should have
taken the title. And I think all administrative personnel that
knew about the cheating that they can prove should have
a one year to a lifetime band. Well they did

(54:18):
that to the two top dogs and they are looking
into the other. But but you gotta remember, this is
why the players don't get hurt as much the same way,
because it's organizational, you know what I mean. It comes
down so if the organization is cool within the manager,
the general manager, it's hard you tell a player, oh no,
I don't want what pitch is coming next. Who who's

(54:39):
gonna turn that down? Chris, nobody, You can't. Nobody's gonna
turn that down. Thanks for the call, appreciate it. Let's
go to Adam in Indianapolis. No one know what's gonna
go on with the eye. But no, you're right, Hey,
what's up, guys? How are you doing up? All right?
Just kind of gonna feed right into what you just
said about the players might understand them not being suspended.

(55:00):
I definitely think that our twove invents should have to
lose their MVP awards because I mean, they won't MVP.
What guy's not gonna win it? Aaron Judge would have
win MVPG. You know what, pitch was covered every time.
So if with the vacating of the title, that you
would take the MVP if you vacated the title. Yeah,
I think they should. I think they should have lost

(55:22):
the World TI Championships and those two players should have
definitely lose their MVP championships. Wow, I mean that that
would have been make sense though, that would have been hard. Yeah,
and you know what, the cheating part, it's hard. That's
a good point. Not gonna argue with the cheating if
you want to go that far. But I think baseball
did a good job other than not taking you know

(55:42):
what I mean, not taking away of vacating the championship.
Joseph in Virginia, you're on the odd couple, Fox Sports Radio.
What you got, Joseph Fellas, How are you good? How
are you doing well? Uh? Fellas? I think they should
have taken those championships because It's a little deeper than that,
because you got to think about Clayton Kershaw's career. They

(56:04):
damaged his career the one chance he had the bats
behind him, they cheated. That's a great I think, and
I think that for them to go and do that,
they have to take those championships just because he has
this Peyton stigma and let alone, they lost Manny and
they traded a point, so I mean they Yeah, I

(56:24):
think he did a lot more damage than you know.
That's a great point. I hadn't thought about that other people. Yeah,
look at I mean Kershaw, he's going down as a
guy that can't get it done in the post. That
home run is still going Nah. That's a great point
to think of the collateral damage. And if you remember
in that playoffs Kershaw, the Dodgers spotted him to a

(56:48):
four run league gave that up, Chris. They gave him
three more runs, and then he gave that up. He
gave up seven runs and then his record, if I
remember correctly, was ninety nine and one or one hundred
and one when he had spotted a four run lead
or something. So let's go to rick and Fort Lauderdale.
Ricky on with Chris and Rob, all my brothers. How

(57:09):
you doing, good Man, How are you? I'm doing great.
I think Commissioner Manford did a great job, but I
think it could have it could be stiffer. And Chris,
I'm with you. They needed to be stripped. And you
guys talked about collateral damage. How about the fact that
in twenty seventeen and nineteen they beat my Yankees in
the Alcs and the Yankees were complaining, that's one thing.

(57:31):
Like they were on the record, they were complaining about
the whistles and the and the noise. They complained about that,
And you guys bought up to two examples. And I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna touch on that. Maybe if Commissioner
Goodell had gotten had suspended Belichick or Belicheat like I
like to call him, maybe wouldn't we wouldn't have the
other scandals. And isn't it funny all of a sudden,

(57:53):
these last scandals I have gone quietly. This is the
longest investigation I've ever seen. Rob, you brought up Reggie
Reggie Bush. There's a difference. Reggie Bush did something to
get them to go to USC off the field. I
get it. I guess that's difference. Darren and Charlotte. You're
on with Chris and robb. Hey man, how are your

(58:15):
guys doing and how are you all right? I think
Major League Baseball um didn't get this right. I mean,
I believe you know, what they should have did is
also suspended the captains of the team. I mean, if
the players would have came out and said, hey, we
ain't doing that, then it wouldn't have happened. But the
players was down with it, so they should also get
ten super don't. The captains aren't always the leaders even

(58:38):
though they got the title, you know what I mean.
And the other thing, Darren, Oh, if it's organizational and
they're doing it from upstairs, man, I'm telling you that
means that they're signing off on it, it's easy the
players to buy into it. If this saying hey we
can do we can Hey here we go to the players,
heck might have thought it was okay. Why really? No,
I do know a lot of these guys don't really

(59:00):
know what's going on in terms of the league, you
know what I mean. And that's why none of the
players got suspended. Because I think it has to come
from management. And leadership. If those guys didn't know it, Chris,
and it was a couple of players, then they would
have been suspended. If it was a players thing. This
is an organizational thing. Eric and Maine, you're on the

(59:20):
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Eric? Hey,
what's up? Long time listener, first time calling. How you
guys doing. Appreciate you calling in man? All right? So
I had to leal on this because I mean, diehard,
absolute diehard Red Sox fan, right and all right? See
have over the Alex Coro, Alex core over with the Astros.

(59:41):
He's part of this. Apparently from what I've been hearing,
he's kind of like one of the ring leaders in
Wrong and all this. He comes over to the Red Sox.
The Red Sox threw up a historic year, players are
thought up historic numbers, and now it comes out that
the Red Sox are involved in something similar. So, as
a diehard Red Sox fan, I'm one hundred ten percent
okay if I'm a he drops the hammer on the

(01:00:01):
Red Sox as well. No, Eric, they're going they're going
to I'm gonna get it worse. Kor's gonna get double Jeff.
I totally agree, and you're right. That was the greatest
Red Sox season ever. Go back and remember that. Here's
a truck of don for you in Boston. Trucker Don,
you're on the odd couple of Fox Moore. You want
to hear first? All right, there we go. Hey, trucker Don,

(01:00:26):
did you get what I've mailed you or not? I?
I absolutely did. On your birthday, I got the hat
that you sent me. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Related.
Happy birthday, Thank you, buddy related. Happy birthday to you now.
I tried to call in to thank you that night,
and you and Chris were having a big debate about

(01:00:46):
the Brady and Belichick, who who's greater and who's responsible
and so on and so forth, and you know they.
I cannot do anymore than thank Chris for giving every
talking point I would have given you that night. He
was amazing. Thank you. I even bestowed you with a

(01:01:06):
new nickname. You remember the nickname I gave to Rob
Parker last week and why gloat Lucky only after ten
because an earlier caller had said that he'd been predicting
Tom and so I gave him the Gloat. Well, now

(01:01:28):
we could set you up with a nickname, and you
could even have a theme song would call you the
gloat Buster that I like that real quick. Cora's gotta
get the double hammer, doesn't he? Absolutely? And I agree

(01:01:51):
with the last caller that said the Red Sox need
to be punished. I wouldn't say equally, but damn close
to what Houston got because and I am a huge
Red Talk fan. Asked me for my uh Bill Buckner's
story one of these days, and I got a great
story from that. But uh no, I uh free with

(01:02:11):
him totally. That Uh, Cora, He's gotta gotta have to go,
all right, thanks chuckerd Yes, he will, he will, he
will go. You already know the last time Aaron Rodgers
face to forty nine ers, he had the worst game
of his NFL career. Should we expect more of the
same in the NFC Championship game? That team or Rid
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I assume they'll get the extra point, go up seven.

(01:02:55):
Oh no, no, no, no, the boys from the You
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Hall of Fame defensive back Rod Woods and Rod what's

(01:03:15):
happening up? Rod? Going on my brothers for another mother. Hey,
I'm a little offended now, Chris, because you just said
I'm like one of your favorites. That was your favorite?
Do I usually you say I was your favorite? I'm like,
I'm like following out of favorites. It's like I'm talking
to my wife right now, years later, favorite slipping the

(01:03:38):
tug man. A lot of good football over the weekend, right,
and so let's get right to it with the Ravens.
Was that loss? Was that a referendum on Lamar Jackson
style of play as a quarterback? Like, can you go
big with that? Blame I blame I blame hardball, I
blame the coach of staff. You gotta think about it.

(01:04:01):
It was almost three weeks that before he really played
a game, So you think they shouldn't have taken off.
Seen got a young player who's inconsistent, still learning how
to play, still learning how to um you know, be
a pocket passer and passing on on on a consistent basis,
and then in rhythm, and you let him stay off.
I mean because he was sick a couple weeks before that,

(01:04:22):
a little bit, had a little two bug. He didn't
play basically the last two weeks. He gets a buy
a week and then he got to come back. And
now he's gonna be Lamar Jackson a game. It's not
like he's been doing this for ten years or eight
years or seven years. He just got here. So he's
still learning how to be a pro. He ain't gotten hurt.

(01:04:42):
You know, they would be ready to tar John Harbor,
but I want to, but I want to push back
been especially a running quarter. No, but he but he
should have played a little bit. He should have he
should have played a little bit just to stay in
the rhythm. And then I don't know how they practice,
you know, and on that bye week, but it should
have been a tough practice. It should have been something

(01:05:04):
that was more in the mid season form of it
than being in the postseason, because listen, they got a
team that really especially a quarterback who who's never been
there before. But the only thing that's basis right. The
only reason I'm gonna push back is this two years
in the row when they fall behind. Uh, it just
seemed like it's hard for him. But he's a rookie.

(01:05:25):
He's young. Now, they got in his head after he
made that little tackle. They you know, they got in
his face. He pushed his hand down, he got a
little flustered. But I still blame the coach for not
putting them in and not playing them. Yes, he's still young,
Yes they it's been two years in a row. But
last year he was a rookie. I don't even blame him.
I can't say anything about him last year. This year

(01:05:47):
he's still young, all right, he would know even though
he's played as a MVP level, but he's still a
young player still the National Football League. All right, let
me ask you about that. What was the best part
you like about Aaron Rodgers last night? He obviously made
some big throws a big win over Seattle. What did
you like? Nobody? I could nobody come to seventeen, right right,

(01:06:10):
And and Rod, That's what I'm concerned about against San
Francisco is I think they're gonna be able to take,
you know, to a large degree, takeaway de Vante Adams
and then who's he throwing it too? Do you see
the same problems coming? But not only that, I see
him getting pressure on Aaron Rodgers with that front. And

(01:06:31):
they're playing with those that back in when they got
the factors of smaller windows, and you do that, it's
an easier game plan. You know. You look at what
the Green Bay Packers did against Seattle. They ran that
hacket boot like four or five times and it was
open every single time. And I'm like, nobody's gonna cover
the guy to the flat, nobody gonna cover the guy

(01:06:51):
and what. But I would think that the forty nine
ers they play a different style of defense, even though
they're both from that same piece Carol Tree, but they
get pressured, they're more like, let's say this, the forty
nine ers defense is more shooted the way the Seattle
Seahawks defense was back when they had the Legion of boom.

(01:07:14):
All right, that's Rod Woodson, the Hall of Fame defensive
back joining the eye cover. How about the other game.
I thought Bill O'Brien should have been fired us right
after the game, because Rod, you can't do that when
you when you're like you were at the one yard
line on a fourth town. You could have put it
in and try to you know, blow the game open.

(01:07:35):
You pass on that and you take the field goal.
Game was blown. Okay, But but but then you you
do that in your own you know, on your own
side of the field. How could you do that and
give them a short field? But just what that's true?
I don't understand now the fake punt, right, that's I'm
like that and that was the only thing I'm criticizing

(01:07:56):
for that. But they were up twenty four to seven, right,
So I mean, and that's one thing. You know, I'm
over here to Collegia Bowl, the NFLPA Collegia Bowl. I'm
one of the coaches here, and that's one of the
things me and all the other coaches who are all
X players said the same thing. Is it's like, how
do teams get up that high or get up that
far and this collapse and let team score twenty one

(01:08:19):
points in five minutes? Right, And if you don't do
that and that's one thing about the Kansas City Chiefs.
You know they have it in them. You know they
can put a spring of sounds together in short periods
of time. And to not to take that, you know,
that gamble at the goal line to go forward and

(01:08:41):
put get a touchdown, you know the end result. You know,
they wouldn't have won the game because it only been
another four points. But it's the momentum, yep. You know,
with the momentum been completely gone from Kansas City and
not giving back to the Kansas City Chiefs and it
stayed with the in Texans. So that's the only thing
I disagree with, along with the punt, the punta no way,

(01:09:08):
you just don't. You're up. You're up twenty four to seven.
All right, all right, Rod Woodson, thank you, yes, thank you,
the Hall of Famer. All right, brother, have a good night.
I appreciate it, brother, yep, all right, yeah, I mean
my problem with O'Brien everybody's talking about the field going
you mentioned it. You're still up twenty problem. I'm saying

(01:09:30):
you're not taking a chance there at the gold On
you're up twenty one. I get it, but if you
could get twenty eight or otherwise they're gonna start Chris
first and ten at at the one. You know what
I mean. I didn't mind a feeling the fake punt
though that that was terrible. All right, I couple one
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a little baseball down there with the Asha. I'll just saying,
I bet the phone lines were burning up in US
Houston this morning, no doubt, no doubt about it. Speaking
of burning up, the LSU Tigers have now tied it

(01:10:38):
up against the Clemson Tigers with a bomb from Joe
Burrow to Jamar Chase. Beautiful pass right on the money,
didn't even have to break strides. How are you feeling now,
mister Louisiana native? You feeling good? I'm good. I'm good,
I'm confident, and it's a good game. I think Clemson's
defense is doing a good job so far. Yea other

(01:10:59):
than that? And Rob Ge, what what are you doing?
Rob g? Just bet me? He was like after after
Clemson was up seven, nothing goes see, I should have
bet you who picked Clemson? So then the touchdown comes down,
I go, all right, you want to bet now? And
he took They was backed into a corner that you took. Debit, Yep, yep,

(01:11:20):
all right, Rob I've been telling you this all year.
You've been singing the Packers praises, singing Aaron Rodgers praises.
And he's nice, no doubt, and he played well on Sunday.
He's the man, Hall of Famer all that. But I
told you one word I kept telling you about my
man Patrick Mahomes. That word was jordan Esque, off to

(01:11:47):
a jordan Esque start to his career. And you can't
tell me that yesterday against the Houston Titan, Texans that
that was not a Jordan esque performance, all right, twenty
three for thirty five, three hundred twenty one yards, five

(01:12:10):
touchdown passes, coming back from a twenty four old deficit,
ties a playoff record with four touchdown passes in the
second quarter, gives his teammates arousing rallying speech on the sidelines.
I mean he showed you in one fell swoop the

(01:12:33):
physical ability, the running ability, the passing ability, and the intangibles,
the leadership qualities that I told you will make him
an all time great. Now. I'm not saying he's Michael
Jordan yet. He's not, obviously, but he is doing things
we haven't seen from that position, just like Michael Jordan

(01:12:58):
did things we had seen from that position. He was
the first player in NFL history with three hundred plus
passing yards, five touchdown passes, fifty plus rush yards in
a playoff game in the one hundred year history of
the NFL. Ryde Parker one hundred years, and none of

(01:13:22):
the top ten quarterbacks of all time that they gave
us a couple of weeks ago, not out On Graham,
not Peyton Manning, not Tom Brady, not Damn Marino, not
Brett Farve, not Joe Montana, none of them, not Johnny Unitis,

(01:13:46):
none of them had done what Patrick Mahomes did. And
I got one word for you, Jordan Esque, Are you done?
Can I talk? Are you done? I'm done? And Patrick
mahomes performance was for Gayzy. It was for Gayzy. Stop

(01:14:09):
with the trumping up what he was able to do.
That was a That was a meltdown by the Texans.
That wasn't anything that he did. Be quiet, let me talk,
all right, keep it real. Those three touchdowns you ready?
Two plays forty two yards, three plays thirty three yards,

(01:14:30):
three plays six yards. He didn't drive them down the
field of ninety yards. He even had layups. They turned
the ball over and said here you go. I know
Chris passed, here's here you go. Help take it. It
wasn't all all you can eat buffet. That's what the
Texans gave to Patrick Mahome boy or whatever you want

(01:14:51):
to call him. Stop trumping up the numbers and trying
to make it out like he did something herculean. He
it was a gift bag. What it was a gift
back in the history of the NFL. And why did
he do it? Why him? It was all the players
in history that got gift back. Can I tie him?
He didn't get one gift back, he got three giftbacks.

(01:15:13):
Here you go take it, do whatever you want to us.
That's what the Texans did. And Chris trying to make
it like he drove like wow, he drove ninety yards
three tow drives in a row and brought his team back.
That's the kind of guy who was Come on, man, Chris,
watch the game, be honest, call it the way you

(01:15:34):
see it. I am it was for gazy. You ain't
anybody out there who thinks that Patrick mahol did something
that was easy for a guy of his talent and skill.
That was easy taking candy from a baby. Those were cupcakes.
All he had to do was blow out the candles
and ed. It was so easy. He didn't do anything easy.

(01:15:56):
Down twenty four always easy again against the sections when
they turned to do stop it right, they turned the
gool right before they turned them. Because Patrick Mahome was
the biggest story. You act my story. You act like
it's easy to score in the red zone. It isn't easy.
The biggest story help when it's not easy. Was it

(01:16:17):
Mahomes or the colossal choke job job up the first
of all, the reason they got up twenty story, the
reason they got up twenty four. Nothing was a gift.
You're talking about gift bags, you're talking about Christmas presents.
How about that? How about the broken coverage on the

(01:16:39):
first touchdown, that was ridiculous, Kenny Stills wide open? How
about the drop pass by Travis Kelsey that leads to
a block punt? How about that? How about the drop
punt from Tyreek Hill? How about that? That like the
six yard line. But that's fine. That's my point is,
don't make it like he did some hercules and after

(01:17:01):
he got lay ups, lay up to that layouf, lay
up for Patrick Mahomes. You befall the six yard line.
It took three plays to get in, but he got
in the six yard line. Stop at Chris Over. They
became the first team rob ever to score seven straight
touchdowns on seven strike got it, but they were getting

(01:17:23):
the player. Understand what the teams have gotten gifts? No,
I didn't theything like that because they didn't have a
quarterback who was Jordan's No, this was you say the
word before the season's over. You will say that word
in relation to Patrick Mahomes over, over my world, over
my dead body. I'm not saying that because he ain't

(01:17:44):
close to Jordan. If they win the Super Bowl this
year and he leads them, you're not gonna say the
death when a jordan Esque starting from my career, and
when and when they lose to the Titans and he
throws a picking a clutch situation, I want to hear
you use that term and stop it, Chris. That was
that game was about the Texans and the colossal collapse

(01:18:06):
of that football team more than it was about Mahomes.
Mahomes was cleaning up the trash. That's what he was
doing in that game. It wasn't like he was burning
uh taking a ball and and and he was unstoppable.
They gave him the ball and said here you go,
beat us, and he did it. I'll give him credit
for the win. But it wasn't like I just cannot

(01:18:28):
give you where you're going jordan Esque when he had
helped Mahals was the best quarterback of the week, and
what do you do? Yes five? He yes, better than
your boy. As good as Aaron Rodgers was, he was
not Patrick. And the other thing Mahomes found eight receivers,
eight Rod Parker. He didn't focus on just one guy,

(01:18:50):
Travis Kelsey. He found eight guys for past because everybody
was open. The Texans were miserable that everybody was open.
And Chris, here's the other thing. This is like the
third youngest player he was. Mahomes was the third youngest
to throw five touch on. He not even the first. Like,
if you're telling me that had never been done, two
other guys did it before him, I don't know who

(01:19:12):
they are, but I know he was a third young
You can't even quote that the third young making a
quoteces give me the sources. I told you you don't
believe what I'm saying. I don't. I went wispered that
in your ear. You hain't no idea he's pulling for you. Obviously,
what if he don't like Mahomes either, I'm telling you

(01:19:34):
said that. I don't like the whole Patrick hating on him.
I'm just telling you, do not trump up what he
was doing, Chris. He threw it was a meltdown in
the second quarter, seventh straight scoring possession. What are you
talking about? He had twelve players working for him because
the the uh uh the Titans. I mean the Titans.

(01:19:55):
The Texans were in his pocket. They were helping him.
Here you go ahead, score another touchdown. It was the
most embarrassing thing I've ever seen. Stop and this was
about the text and stop with the most embarrassing thing
I've ever seen is this take. I mean, are you serious?
He did nothing? He got gift backs, it was through

(01:20:16):
Gazzy Are you serious? Unbelievable, Robert. It shows you you'll
go to any limits. I want, I will have your
hot take, and I want people to call up and say,
was he for gaysy or was he jordan esque? That's it,
That's what I wanted. That's it. Was he for gaysy
or was he jordanst? All right, I'm with you, that's it.

(01:20:37):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on fix eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three six. And now let me
let me clarify my jordanst. I'm not saying he's Michael Jordan,
you name yet. I'm saying he's off to a jordan
nesque start to his career. I remember it took Michael

(01:20:57):
Jordan's seven years to win the champ. The same guy
who said doctor was on his way to a least,
he didn't even make the Pro Bowl and then the
highest highest scoring offense in the league. He didn't make
the fun Michael Jordan's scoring thirty points a game was
what it is to score twenty points a game for
other great players. For Patrick Mahomes, throwing for three hundred

(01:21:20):
someid yards is what it is to throw for two
hundred and fifty for other great quarterbacks. This dude is
on another level t d wise, yardage wise. He can
throw the no look. He's throwing left handed. He's fooling
the defense with looking at one side of the field
all of a sudden, coming back throwing into the other.
He's got all that, So yes, I throw it out

(01:21:42):
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(01:22:04):
It's The I Couple Chris and Rob and uh we
threw it out to You eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox. Rob's got a hot, blazing, blistering take and Uh,
we'll see what you guys think. All right, let's start
with Roger in Minnesota. Roger, pick your words carefully, No,

(01:22:25):
be honest, Be honest, Roger, what's you got? Good evening,
you too, mister intellectual and the host the greatest blow
heart of all time. You love you, guys, Love you guys.
Thank you. But listen, I'll stop by saying that I
do think mister Mahomes is either the best or tied

(01:22:47):
for the best quarterback in the league, with whom I
do but question that you ask, No, but what do
you think? It's yesterday's performance? Real chair blodesque, who was
really the best basketball player ever? But anyway, it was
you said it was Chamberlain. Hold on, let's see what
he said. I actually say it was not Rob. You

(01:23:10):
actually convinced me with your numbers, you know, and I
know you're the guy that said Eli's career is better
than Breezes. That's Craig. Craig. But my goodness, Rob, you
made great joy. Thank you. It was Rob. It wasn't Rob.
P No, Roger, I appreciate you because he had a

(01:23:31):
birdie in his I did not. I did not. Thank you, Roger.
Thanks for the call. What about Nate in Dallas? You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hey guys, Yeah,
I'm with Rob, Yeah, Daisy for Jayzy. Go ahead, because
Jordan scored sixty nine against the cast team and wasn't

(01:23:52):
that good? It wasn't it was for Gayzy. Come on.
But but here's why, here's why you're not gonna call.
You're not gonna call Frank Reich Jordan esque, are you? No?
Because he had that great comeback against the Oilers? No?
Did he throw five ts? Maybe? I don't remember that.
Did he? It doesn't fit in the category. You're not
gonna call those guys are doing that Jordan. That's just

(01:24:14):
because of that one movement. No, but hold on, but Nate,
give me. We're gonna keep you on, Keep Nate on.
But Nate, I've been saying he's off to a jordan
Esque start all years. So it isn't just one game.
But you gotta admit and Nat saw the game. There
were gifts. Come on, man, there was nothing but gifts
given to uh my homes. Thanks for the call. Thread

(01:24:35):
Backs would have melted, trust me, Rob, Lesser quarterbacks would
have melted. Vincent Cutter, you're on with Chris and Rob
ain't what's going on guys that new year? What's happened?
Happy New Year to you? Man? You think he's good
out there? Parker? Yes, yeah, I'm good man, I'm good.
So Rob Parker, I gotta call you out man. It's
a short menu. Wh So if you gotta say that,

(01:25:02):
if you're saying that Kansas City it's Fro Gayzy, then
you have to say that about the Houston Texas when
they jumped out to twenty four point league and couldn't
maintain or keep the league going into the second half.
So I believe the Houston Texans is Marco Gayzy than
in Kansas City Chiefs. I get that. But Vince, come on, man,
I look at them he was It was gifts. It

(01:25:22):
was a gift back. He had three gift bags and
he cashed in on him and he didn't do anything
that was like so drove down ninety yards and and
and was people hanging all over him and he threw
these touchdowns. They were gift bags and he took advantage
of it. Thanks Vince for the call. Thanks let's go
to Bill in Texas. You're on the d couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, gro what's up man? Yeah,

(01:25:48):
that gift came from Bill O'Brien, No doubt, Rob, he's
not if you read Bill was doing col Brian. It's
crazy because I agree with Chris, they's going to a
juring this career. But yesterday, don't just rap that for

(01:26:10):
him and slips us to his mother, and his mother
gave us to them. Did you see someone says Cools.
Let's see what he does next week? Get tired. I
think I think two things turned the tide. Thanks so
much for the call, the return, the kickoff return when
they're down twenty four old, the kickoff returned by Nicole

(01:26:34):
Hardman to the like fifty yards whatever it was, and
then the fake punt, No doubt. Those are the two
things that turned again. And Clemson just scored again. So Clemson,
I got a met They're looking good. They're still not
You're still not getting those wings. While at ten is running,
uh running, having his way on the ground. Let's go
to skip in Orlando. Skip you on with Chris and

(01:26:54):
Rob and I see I see Rods about to jump
on you. What's up? Oh no, because you're gonna be
in the middle, you better pick a side. You got
to pick a side. You ain't coming here, and my
cheese was hot. All right. If I'm gonna take a side,
I'm gonna go closer to fooghayze And I just like
to say Fogaz says, stay it again. It was closer

(01:27:16):
to that. But mom's got a couple of moods. You
can chuck that ball around. And he's got h confidence
and uh yeah, so jordan Esque. No, Chris, you're the
master of the overseas. Yes, I'm the master over He
is a partner. Skip a good skip. Chris is the
prisoner of the moment. Everything's the greatest thing that we've

(01:27:37):
ever seen. All right, I'm gonna have to second year
in the Jordan didn't win till the seventh year. Talking
a decade, all right about Jordanesque. In a decade, I'm
gonna have to put bulls Rob g two in his place,
because Rob g ain't whispering notes in the mind. What
are you talking about either my own in? I do research.

(01:28:00):
Now check this out? No stop nice my floor, all right,
Patrick Robin, he ain't marching them ninety yards, Oh yes
he is. He had a march ninety yards, a ninety
yard drive to put them up twenty eight twenty four.
Rob Parker ninety yards. The ball started at Kansas City's

(01:28:22):
ten yard line when they were down twenty four twenty one,
and he marches them ninety yards to take the lead
twenty eight twenty four. Then he comes back and marches
them eighty five yards to go up again thirty four
twenty four. Rob Parker, what are you talking about? All

(01:28:44):
of you? I'm talking about two or fool by his
little statists. I gave you the need to check yourself too,
And Rob, gee, I'm disappointed. Let me just tell you something, Chris,
that was a good stat that you pull. I'm very impressed. Stas.
Now now you know, though, why you lose all these
debates of Rob Parker because you want to be independent
doing all your old research. And I'm giving Rob the

(01:29:05):
good NUGA. That's no research. No, wait a minute, your
notes at least I read your notes that you put
your blood, sweating tears in through at them today. And Rob,
g did I not come in there and ask you
for what I was looking? Yet? You ask for a
very specific I ask them for specific staff. I didn't read.
I didn't go like, hey, Rob, come up with stuff

(01:29:27):
to help me. That would be I didn't say that
to him, you might as well have. Let's go to John.
It looks like John got some sense. Let's go to
John in New Orleans. What's up, homeboy? You're on the
eye couple. Hey, guys, this is a Rob Parker take hotline.
Yes it is good, good call. Yes, okay, So I
just want to make sure I heard right because I'm

(01:29:48):
on a cell phone. It's a tough reception. So for
the first time in a hundred years of NFL football,
you had a team down by twenty four and then
lead going into half time. For the first time in
NFL hundred years, you had a team losing by twenty
in the game to eventually win by twenty in the game.

(01:30:09):
Not to mention those cupcake seven straight touchdown drives. When
happens all the time, right, I mean that happened last
last week? No? No, what's last time that happened? Again?
Help me out, guys. Never Yes, John, John, they called
you rack that they would gift wrap. That's something and
what I thought it was the ninety yard drive game

(01:30:30):
still done? No, he had eighty five yards. How did
he get back in here? Indiana because this is a
route I'm doing up the homes on Rob Park. Whatever.
Let's go to Derek. What's up man? Hey guys, long
time listener, finally get on the show. Thank you. One
more thing before you speak this change bro, this might

(01:30:51):
change your mind. Derek. The third drive, after after the
ninety yard drive, then the eighty five yard drive, seventy
yard game. I'm not gonna lie I was after that
first quarter. I was crying a little bit, you know,
But that's a good day, my chiefs. One. I'm gonna
ask you this man. You we have Patrick Mahomes. There's

(01:31:11):
two pro football teams out there. They're supposed to make
those stops. And you say five touchdowns that they were
just layoups? Are you kidding me? I'm talking about the
ones that I'm talking about, the ones I gave you
forty two yards, thirty three yards and six. That's what
that'und quarter, that's what turned the game around. I watched
the entire game, Yes I watched it. I don't think Okay,

(01:31:33):
did you say many drops they had? Okay, Patrick Mahomes
went on the sideline because he's that kind of leader,
picked him up and then Travis Kelsey's the best tide
in the NFL. Pree came back fifty one to seven
after that first quarter. Preach, that's no layoup good team,
that's a that's a very good team. That's a super
Bowl winning team. That defense after the first quarter gave
up seven points. DeShawn Watson, who was supposed to be

(01:31:56):
better than Patrick Mahomes even though he was drafted after him.
All right, come on, now, I know the insulting. Heyl
the record straight, y'all, because Rob Ge, why did you
even do this? Rob g? You ignored the rest of
the game. And obviously I watched the game like everybody else,

(01:32:18):
but I didn't know the exact yardage numbers, rob rob
Parker gave out he only drove forty two yards. He
drove thirty two yards. Here are his last four No,
I'm talking about the ones that got him back into
the hold on ninety yards to take the lead, the
game winning drive. I asked, hold him eighty five yards.
The next drive seventy seven, the next drive seventy two.

(01:32:41):
The next drive Mike dropped. No, and it ain't no
Mike drove. I want more than the Mike drop. I
want my theme music no, that's right. You want to
see Chris your last nay keep it coming you guys
here on Wednesday is here and his name is Chris Bruth.
That's ridiculous. I'm mean, why are you playing that? I

(01:33:03):
just dropped you like you didn't drop me? Because Rob?
What did I ask Tyson? I got the right numbers
when they got back in the game. It was because
it was gift wrap. Stop it all right. It may
have been the worst twenty four hours in Houston sports history.
I don't think that's hyperbole, and our man Sean Salisbury
would tell us all about it next. But first, be
sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with

(01:33:24):
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern
four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart
Radio app. We did the former network great guy now
the host of his own show, The Sean Salisbury Show,
weekday morning is on Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston.
Always great to chat with our man Sean Salisbury. Welcome

(01:33:47):
to the Eye Couple, Brotherns. What's up? Always always great
to be on with you, guys man, Thanks for having
me on and just watching this heavyweight fight with slallis
hut and question right now, man, But it's great to
be on day and Rusday, and my goodness to on both.
I don't know what was worse. I guess the world's
the Astros. I guess was worse. What was worse? What

(01:34:10):
happens to the Texans or this news about the Astros?
You know, well, I think the guys, you know this
in Texas is a football state. But the truth is
they haven't trusted the Texans in a long time, the
fan base. So even when they came back at morning
last week, all week long, head been into this, this
game this weekend against Kansas City, there was that trepidation

(01:34:31):
in that, uh, we've been to the Division round before.
We know the answer to this. They don't trust the
head coach, right, Yeah, they just don't. So this is
an Astros town, guys, honest to god, football state, Astros town.
So I would say you think about guys, just think
about the last two months or whatever it's been. When
two and a half months you don't win a World

(01:34:52):
Series game at home, then all of a sudden to
talk of the electronic cheating. So then get to them.
It comes down with it's Luno and you know, and
aj Hinch and then they get fired on the same day,
and nobody knows anything that anybody did. Yet everybody talks
about man they asked us had such great communication over
the year, and nobody knows who was doing what. And

(01:35:12):
Bill O'Brien sitting up there on his leather chair thinking,
I am so glad. Oh yeah, no doubt he's got
the heat taken off of him because of the big story.
But this is my only thing. I thought the Astroll's
organization did the right thing by firing them because it's
a black guy on the franchise. Sean, Yeah, I think

(01:35:33):
you're right. Listen, Jeff Luno came on, we're the flagship.
But you know what, you guys know me, I'm I'm
not sitting on offense on every week during the season
and was generous, you know, he put that of his statement,
as did Aja. Both of them treated us great and
did a great job for the Ashtalls. Good. At some
point they'll be back in baseball. But when it's Jim
Crane and you started get into somebody's money and you're

(01:35:54):
a businessman and it doesn't look good, think about what
would happened, and let's say they go out and play, well,
they're gone, and you come back, you lose all these
draft picks and you come back, and how do you
get them back in and say, Okay, everything's good now
it is now. I hope that they go on and
have another opportunity else where. I do get it now.
You guys would be shocked at how many people are
pissed at Crane though in this town, because they say

(01:36:18):
kind of turn yeah, yeah, wow, did he that he
kind of turned his back on a Luno and and
uh and AJ hints that's with a lot of the
buzz coming through our stuff and my twitter about and
it's going to be interesting tomorrow morning. We pee it
up six o'clock because it came up. You know, this
came down when we were off the air my show.
So I'm anxious to see. But yeah, you get a
lot of it. You're getting a yep, they should be fired.

(01:36:39):
You're getting ah, I can't believe major League Baseball did
them like that? Okay, And then you're getting the old
Jim Crane, why would you do it? And then you're
getting the the people to say, you know what, Jim
Crane had to do it. So I tend to agree
with you. I don't think. I don't know how you
just like, what's gonna happen with Alex Corre guy? Yeah? Yeah,
and I I agree, Well, he's hey, guys would follow

(01:37:02):
the money trail right, and he was involved in full
and both the World Series champs. He's like, yell, half
a of this team. And I don't believe John Henry
guys will have shocked you if all of a sudden
the Red Sox say, you know what, we're gonna do
the same thing at all. Yeah, I kind of expect
a good bit. Yeah, yeah, I agree, speaking of cutting bait, um,
A lot of people now blaming Bill O'Brien he should

(01:37:25):
have been fired after the game. Yeah, I look, I
don't go that far. I know, like you said, they
don't trust him. Um, I everybody's criticizing him for going
for the field goal and then the fake punt. I
didn't have a problem with the field goal. You're still
up twenty four, Oh, you should be able to protect
that lead. The fake punt to me was ridiculous. When
you're up big, you don't need to risk it. And

(01:37:47):
I thought that, and then mcole Hartman's punt or kickoff
return before that changed the game. But talk about that,
and then do you think O'Brien should be fired? Chris?
And you're correct, list and you're up twenty one and nothing.
It's fourth and one. You don't feel comfy. Now, what
did bother me if he said he didn't have a
playwres good? Gracious, we're in a we're in a playoff game.

(01:38:10):
You're the head coach of pare but you're asked, been
prepared all week. You'd better have a play ready. I
got one for you. Put it in number four sands. Ye,
pretty good. I would do that, but I would have
kicked the field goal too, And I'm an aggressive guy.
So you're up twenty four nothing. You guys know how
hard it is in the postseason to roll twenty four
twenty eight thirty points. It's not easy. Now, now, Pat
Mahomes in the group made it look easy, but it

(01:38:31):
was amateur hour. On a fake punt, they number one
didn't account for the guy Sorenson. You got to put
a body on the guy. So I'm all for aggressiveness,
but I'm not for stupidity. That was horrible, horrible execution.
And you know what, it looked like to me for
a guy who was up at that point in time
twenty four to seven, guys didn't look like he was desperation,
that they were afraid of death. Did he even get

(01:38:52):
the first down? That Pat was going to kill him?
We'll Pat ended up killing him anyway, So I'm with you.
I'd i'd have kicked the field goal. I thought I
thought they I wouldn't have done that in seventh grade
swiftly Pennsylvania pop watering the fake fund. Right, here's how
I feel. I don't like knee jerk. Listen, I'd probably
supply I know what you guys know this. You cover
coaches all the time. I don't like to just all

(01:39:13):
of a sudden want to fire everybody who makes a mistake.
But guys, this has been a creature I have at
the ill prepared at times. And here's what I call
Bill O'Brien. And I've offended him and taken some heatport
in pound, not fully, but said, you know what, He's
done some good things, Yet when they win, he never
gets credit. When they lose, everybody wants he to me, guys,
he's a he's a January coach, meaning he's not a

(01:39:36):
February coach, he's gonna he's gonna get you into January
four of the six times, but he's never getting you
into February. And that feeling that you jump up there too,
where you get some coaches that'll bust through it, like
a Sean McVeigh or a Doug Peterson. He hits his
head on the feeling and falls back down. Deshaun Watson,
I know he loves him, but guys, what do you
want to be Do we want to give out participation trophies?

(01:39:59):
You got the final late. You know who's pissed that
they got to the final late loss is the Baltimore Ravens, Right,
So you can't just say, hey, we got here. They've
got a great quarterback. They need to get the February.
This is the first time, I said, because I've seen
this movie with the it's like it's like Screamed seven
with Para Reid. We've seen the same movie with the
textrans over and over again. I personally thought this was

(01:40:22):
the one, and some of the mistakes he made that
I would have had him in, evaluating him hard, just
like you would a bubble player. I gotta find somebody
that'll check Bill Brand. They're not gonna fire him, but
I think he's the January January guy, but I don't
think he can get you the February Sean salis buried,
the host of The Shawan Salisbury Show weekday mornings on
Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston, joining the Eye Couple.

(01:40:43):
So I'm only have about a minute. Obviously we saw
what Patrick Mahomes did, but I want to be what
you what did you take away from Aaron Rodgers and
what a different Green Bay Packers team balanced. They got
some defense, they run the football, and Aaron Rodgers made
all the third down throws. Yeah, isn't it guys? Look
at it? These teams of Kansas City. You know they
have run game. They kind of throw the balls an

(01:41:04):
extension of the run. But isn't it weird? Doesn't this
remind you, guys of seventies and eighties football, which the
Green base San Francisco tied ends lining up, knocking you
in the mouth, playing defense, punching you and knocking your
feet down your throat. Listen. But the one thing there,
here's what's great about Aaron. He doesn't have to throw
at forty times. Now they're running the ball better, so
it's not up, but we know that he's capable of

(01:41:26):
taking a game over. But I love what we're seeing
Henry and the forty nine ers defense, and they're running
it an old school knocking in the mouth. And I'll
tell you what. Ain't nobody going to bet against Aaron Rodgers? Well,
I know the forty niners are good, but if the
game's on the line, number twelve and green base, pretty
damn good. I love the fact that they finally are
running the ball efficiently so Aaron doesn't have to be
a super human every single week. We're in for one

(01:41:48):
hell of the final four guys, no doubt. Sean, Thank you.
You guys are the best n I appreciate you. I
look forward to talk to you again. Thanks matter ye later.
It may not be pretty, but it was effective, we'll explain.
Next to Fox Sports Radio, be sure to catch live
editions of The Odd Couple with Chris Brussar then Rob

(01:42:08):
Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. All right,
see I Couple, Chris and Rob wrapping up another three hours.
It went quick, man, it really did you know? And
when I'm winning all these debates. It really I'm not
sure about that. I just destroyed you and the destroyed me.

(01:42:28):
You brought false information was not false. You acted like
all he had done was taking short fields and I
just gave you four drives of seventy or more yards.
What are you talking about? I'm telling you. When they
turned the game around, it wasn't on this it would
get it, get it, give he had to drive him

(01:42:49):
ninety yards with his team trailing. Jordan, stop it. That
is definitely Jordan's mark my words. Before the end of
this year, you will say those words and reference. I'm
gonna say, like Ali told Ernie Turrell, you will save
my name now or in the ring, in the middle
of the ring, you will announce my name. I think

(01:43:10):
I'm moving to Mexican. Look in the name. I know
what you want to talk about, because you've asked every
caller all the things you could ask our guests, all
the NFL things, and LSU right, Rob, you Rob g
wrong again. That's that's forgiving Rob that bad information? What
bad information that you just scores another touchdown. They're about

(01:43:33):
to go up twenty one seventeen. Now they're up twenty
seventeen until they kicked the field goal. But Rob, you've
been asking every guest of all the topics to ask them.
Here's Rob with Rod Woodson, with Sean Salisbury. What what
about Aaron? Rob? What I mean? What just the throws

(01:43:54):
like third down to throw the I mean out of
thirteen on third down? You you? I mean, look, Aaron
Rodgers was he was very good. He was. I mean,
I got him taking I got nothing to take away
from play a good game. But hold on, you're going

(01:44:14):
to take praise away from Patrick Mahomes, but praise Aaron
Rodgers who had the better performance, Robber. Aaron Rodgers played
better than Patrick. Stop should have been the lead, because
then I could have beat up on you for twelve
only got three. Aaron had to beat a team in
Seattle with a tough Russell Wilson, who was a Super

(01:44:37):
Bowl winning quarterback. You can talk about the Sea j
J watch Seawan didn't show up in that game. They
scored one bogus touchdown. All the other stuff early that
wasn't Deshaun watching. What was show? He was a no
show in a big game. Points they score, Rob thirty one. Yeah,

(01:44:57):
but most of the we looking at DeShawn saying he
couldn't get it done. No, you're looking at the defense.
I'm telling you that the Sean Watson I'm talking about,
Aaron Rodgers played better in a bigger spot, a getting
a better team. He threw the ball twenty seven times.
Aaron Jones was the was the workhorse and the defense.
You know this, How are they getting those those third downs?

(01:45:21):
He did great on third down, but Patrick Mahomes did
a great period every down. Five touchdowns, Rod Parker, you
know what, Aaron hasn't thrown five touchdowns in like the
last five weeks. That might be true. You're gonna say
five years because he did it this year in the
game did he throw I think he threw four. He
has a balanced offense now he got Aaron john right,

(01:45:44):
He's unbelievable. He don't need to do all that. Those
days of having to throw get score forty points to
win a playoff game over. They don't need to do that.
He might have to against San Francis. Nah, they're gonna
get that, and then you're just but your boy is
in trouble. No, he ain't. Not against that team. Watched
that was the one game they lost. They didn't even

(01:46:05):
show up. They never got off the plane when they
lost that game. They'll be ready to play as six
touchdowns in the last three games, Patrick Mahomes just threw
five quarter? How many got many games? When you just
said in those three games, you said they won three?
Oh did Patrick Mahomes? Now? What's about wins? And he

(01:46:26):
was the reason they won? I don't know that now.
Rogers saved them. I don't know that Rogers was the
reason they won big Why making a big third down?
They were big throws, But we don't know that they
would have lost had they had to punish the ball away.
But I'm telling you that the reason Kansas ask Mahomes no,

(01:46:48):
it was because the Texans crumbled and turned the goul
in a big moment. That's why they never even been
up that that had that lead. Because Kansas City crumbled,
That's why they had the league. And the first quarter
they didn't crumble. They still had plenty of time in

(01:47:08):
that game. I never thought that game was over even
at twenty four. Doubt that because you could check my
you could check my Twitter. I was not celebrated. I
didn't think anything was over all right, So I'm gonna
give you. Look. Like I said, we talked last week
about Aaron having to be Aaron. He was Aaron. So
you obviously feel good about your pick that day, and
you feel good about your pick. We both have our

(01:47:29):
team chance be Green Bay in Kansas City and the
Super Bowl that'd be a heck one. Yeah, super bad
Kansas City won't make it because it would have been great.
Look when he loses, I want to hear him saying
that he's Jordan's real talk. They're both gonna have their
hands full. Oh, no doubt about it. I don't. I
don't doubt that for one talking. Both teams will have
But I'm not saying that it's a done deal. You

(01:47:50):
see in foot playoff football, it ain't always automatic. Like
people think Baltimore, Oh, Baltimore is gonna win. Oh if
you remember there was a clip with dog and uh
calling on and they just like, oh yeah, Mualtimore. You know,
like know the Patriots, they say they've been wrong on
they picked the Patriots, but the Pots and they were
like like it was just a four gone conclusion. Oh yeah,

(01:48:13):
don't beat the Titans. It ain't that easy, That's all
I'm saying. And have they had ball too. Did they
have Bottimore coming out? Uh? Probably, I don't know. All right, Well,
it's been the odd couple. We've had a lot of
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