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Speaker 1 (00:01):
With Mario a little bit. It's up you'all. Mario Lopez
joining me now and zoom. The host of the Windy
Williams show, My Girl, Wendy Williams Welcome. How are you good?
Look at you doing radio? Yes, that's hey. I'm trying
to be the male Wendy Williams over here. He's always
said that. Yes, Oh, it's my pleasure. You know, I've
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got nothing but love for you, and you've got so
much going on. It feels like it's the Wendy Williams
Weekend with a lifetime documentary and a biopic. Was it
your choice to do both at the same time? Did they?
Did they approach you with it? Howd that come about? Well,
they approached me. They are the ones experienced with TV
and how it works. Uh, and it sounded good to me.
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Nothing like Favorite Girl in One Night, right, Grab snack,
grab your tissues, grab your laughter at That's what I'll
talk about. Do both projects Wendy focus on similar paths
or do they tell different stories? Uh? They they tell
the story through the actors in the movie and through
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people who are around me. Uh, throughout various parts of
my life in the biopic and the biopic was very important.
At first, I didn't even know they were gonna do uh,
the the I'm sorry, the documentary. I didn't know they
were going to do that. They said, no, we need
a documentary. We need I said, well, who's gonna talk
about me besides my parents, my family, and they're all
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gonna talk good and that's gonna be corny. And nobody
likes documentaries because they're never as drama filled as we
would like. And when they are, the person is usually
dead and so you can't stare at them and say afterwards,
So in my case, very much alive. And then they said,
and it's not gonna be one hour, Wendy, it's gonna
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be two hours. I said, what, So who's doing the talking?
So we compiled lists of people and and their searching
department went and and pulled it all together. And it
was actually shot during the end of the summer, just
from the time of beginning of September, launched for our
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twelfth season. Here at the Wendy Show. I'm in my
office right now, um, actually working and uh, the people
that they gathered, the people that we have, it's a
fascinating story of a girl, UM who's one in the
first chapter of her life and I still want more.
I love that. And um, I think Lifetime it's very
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cool for doing this sort of celebrating and focusing on
people that that are very much alive um as opposed
to waiting to when they passed. I think that's kind
of cool. Right, Yes, it definitely is, and especially not
I'm not just alive, but I'm a live and on
live TV every weekday, and I'm still young enough that
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you can understand some of what I went through. Uh
and maybe there maybe there's some life lessons I read
in this four hour event that you can walk away with.
You don't have to live through it. I've lived through
it for you. And as well as the music is
great and the fashions are great, and there's sex, and
there's drugs and there's there's everything that I want when
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I watched EVA, and I expect a lot, so hopefully
I deliver. I'm sure. I'm sure it does. And I
met the young lady m who plays you on the movie.
She She's great and I know you were very happy
with her. Correct You're Peyton, Yeah, uh me and Lifetime
we got together. We uh all agreed on Sierra. She
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did not have an exact likeness, but she was close enough.
She looks like, uh, she's part of my family in
real life. And I the only other person that could
play me and would be me. So we went with that.
She and often and I would call her while she
was on the step. Because of quarantining, I was not
able to go to um Canada, moving somewhere between Thanksgiving
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and Christmas, just as the city was it's bad. It's
bad here, It's bad old the world. And so there
was a quarantine camp for shooting the movie. And she
said to me, all right, Wendy, this is when you
go to the house that he shared with Umh Sharina
uh Nicole Payton Sharina Nicole Hudson, and and you go
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with the spray paint, And how should I act? Should
I act mad? I said, no, don't act mad. Don't
flail your nostrils, don't don't try to break in, don't
try to disguise yourself, you know, in a mask and
at a baseball hat. Go exactly how you are, you know,
the blonde hair, um swinging and you know I would
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have on a Gucci jacket or something like that. That
that Kelvin would recognize if, by chance he was at home.
I didn't care whether he was home or not. You know,
I did ring the doorbell. Nobody answered, Um, uh, they
were out, and I had to be sure of that.
I had a p I on the case. Mario. They
were actually on vacation. He told me he was gone
away for a business trip to l A. Ironically, he
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had a whole team, right, No, he no, he said
he was going by himself. But I'm saying you had
a team, not just a p I. You had like
a team I remember, right, well, yeah, there were a
team of financial people and you know, accountants and state
estate planners. Yeah, I had a whole team in my corner.
They cost a lot, but boile boy, were they worth it.
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And Kevin never expected this kind of evil from me.
It was evil, but I'm not the person I was
doing it. I was doing it for the good of
my future, because now, if you take care of yourself,
we lived to be one hundred, and I had I
did not want to live at one hundred, scrounging, sharing
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the bowl with my cats, and with not things to
give to my son. You know, you have kids, we
want to give them some of what we made. We
don't want to spoil them now. We want to be
able to leave for them later. And taking care of
my son um and my only child, it was very
important to me. And being able to pay alimony to
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Kelvin so that he can take care of his new
baby and his side pieces, or his lifestyle that you know,
I don't know whether he's working. You know, at the
same time that he lost his wife, then he'll never
get back. Even though people say, oh, she loves him
the way she talks about him. Yeah, I have loved
for Kevin and he will. He's my friend right now.
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He's he's got my phone numbers. I call him, we text,
We've been after, just the two of us together. I'm
not scared of him. I don't yell at him. You know,
he's still um, smells good and he looks nice. But
I've outgrown his ways, both the way he acts and
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the way he gets mad, and the irresponsibility of what
he does for money. He's mean to people. He's mean
to people who scrub floors, he's mean to people who
pay bills. He's means people, and he doesn't mean to
be mean. It's just that he does not understand how
to channel that mean. You know, Mario, I know you
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and I have talked. You work out, you work up
a sweat, you work out, you're not a screamer. You
go home and you let your wife run the show. Kelvin.
Kelvin's way, I guess of releasing was working out a
little bit, screaming a whole lot and and you know,
you know, maybe a little puffy or and a puff there,
But it wouldn't take long to get back into that
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person who would change the temperature in the room. You
could be having a great time with people, whether it
was my with my staffers, or my son, or my
son and his friends, or my son and his friend's
mom's over at the house, or I'm a theras Calvin
would show up and I never knew what to expect,
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but I knew that if I just held my breath
and plotted carefully, I teach him that, um, you won't
have Wendy to kick around anymore. And I'm and I'm
going to eventually tell this story. And I thought I
was gonna tell you know on hot topics. I didn't.
I love you know, it's a It's on for twelve
years much respect to hot topics. But when Lifetime came along, Mario,
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you know, and said, come on, let's go. I know
that Lifetime has wanted to do a big project with
me for years, and I know that Kelvin had told
me that Lifetime did not have this that he wanted
for me. I'm the best, you know. He was my
biggest cheerleader, and I appreciated him for that. But he
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was mean about getting what I wanted. He was most
of the stuff on the list of that I wanted
that I wanted. I sent him to meetings with that list,
you know what I mean? Why he talked at people
and walked out on them, or hung up the phone
on them, or disrespected them by putting them on hold
for fifteen minutes. And people were scared to hang up
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on Kevin. People who knew him, yeah, you know, like
like Deb mar Mercury literally would sit on the phone
and wait and wait wait. Kevin would forget that he
even had people on holding. Look, he's talking to the sneaker.
He's talking to his stylist who has the new sneaker
and the new door. You know what I mean, right right? Yeah? Man,
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I can't wait to check out all this. Uh. I
mean both both the films and the fact that you're
so forthright and um open about it, I think is uh,
we'll both not only therapeutic and helpful for you, but
I think it's gonna make it so relatable for for uh,
for fans out there that are watching. And one thing
that that I love. I think it's kind of cool too.
You're putting out there that you're open to dating, and
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you want to have people submit videos and you're going
to kind of take them on the journey on the show,
which is a lot of fun. It's like a show
within the show. Yes, well, we played the dating game
here on Wendy Show before, and um it went really
well in our own messy way. But what ended up
happening was, you know, I always knew I'd get divorced,
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and I I've set out loud on my show and
even when I was on radio if I wasn't married,
I would definitely use my microphone and my furniture as
the casting couch for my life. I would talk about it.
I would be about it, invite cute guys. Is he single?
You know? Research him all right? I know about his
new movie. Is he single looks important exactly, and I
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love it. That's gonna be fun. That's gonna be fun
right there. Well, good luck. I'm gonna keep my at
on that right there. Um, Wendy, last year, you performed
on the Mess singer as Lips. How do you like
doing that? I loved it. You know another thing that
I did that I'm not good at, you know, I
sing like I think I can sing. In the shower.
I picked the song Native New Yorker from Odyssey because
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that's a song that I've loved since before I knew
what the meaning of the song was, you know. Uh.
And and I could not catch my balance between the lymphidima,
you know, which causes a little heaviness on the feet
and being nervous being in front of people on the
number one you know show on TV, the Mask Singer
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Who's a latch that? And I knew Jenny and I
knew the judges already, they've been on The Wendy Show.
And I knew Nick Cannon. And it was a last
minute thing that I said to my uh manager, Bernie Young.
And he's very sensible, unlike old management, who would have
screamed and demanded and ultimately probably gotten us arrested or
kicked out. What a mess, right, So I said, Bernie,
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I need a couch. Asked them around here that I
know that they can make this magic happen. Look at this,
there's thousands and thousands of Swavsky crystals. I'm in the lips.
I'm talking to Bernie through the lips with all the
leg hanging out. I said, Bernie, I can't do it.
I'm gonna pass out on stage. I can't. And the
costume is heavy and it's hot, but so just the
anxiety of knowing. So um, Bernie goes over and whiskers.
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Next thing you know, literally within five minutes, there was
this beautiful couch being wheeled onto the couch off and
they said, okay, Wendy, all you have to do is
walk out with your dancers, hold onto them and they'll
lower you to the couch. I said, I can't even
do that. You can't even do that. They have roller
skates on, I said, and you have sexy men pushed
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me out there. Just push me out, ladies and gentlemen
lips and I'll cross my legs and I'll give you
everything else. But I I but I can't give you
a walk and the experience to shout out the Bernie.
All right, wait before I let you, gonna put you
on the spot. Some quick questions, quick answers. Okay, favorite
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show you binge last year? Oh my gosh, last year
I was binging this messy show called The Wendy Show
and Force. I think I like the Housewives. I love
watching all of those different franchises, even when I don't
like them. I love um everything on Lifetime because they
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teach me what to do and what not to do. Um.
I like American greed because even though I'm not greedy
in a crooked way. Wow, this is what you look
out for, you know, people who will just take all
of your money and kill you. Yeah. Yeah. And a
lot of well, a lot of political news, mostly with
the hot guys you know. I like, uh, you know,
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like the Cuomo brothers. You know, Don Lyman. You like
the local news. That's great. Um it's a song. You
know all the words too, oh, tons of them, but
um a lot of them are rap songs, you know,
like you want to bumble with the b huh you know.
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But New York honestly, young and pretty New York City girl. Yeah,
I know me too. I love music, celebrity crush growing up,
never one. I wasn't that girl because I figured, why
crush on them? They would never want me. I was fat,
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I was tall, and I wasn't successful yet, I really know.
But I knew that once I got my LiFePO suction,
even as a young girl, if I got my life
ob suction and I escaped that jail, called my parents
home in Ocean Township, New Jersey, I knew that all
the boys would want me and and I would have
my pick, and I would ultimately be happy and have
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a baby and have a successful career. And I would
know how to cook because my mother taught me how
to cook some great food, not just soul food, not
just Italian food, and everything in between. I knew, I
knew it just wasn't my time, Mario. I didn't have
a crush because secretly I knew that it was never possible.
Why I used to dream on something? You know, we'll
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never be real. I like the mindset, just the ultimate realist. Yeah,
I like that, very practical, very practical. And last one,
who should get a biopic? Next? Who's would you'd like
to see? Little Kim? Would be a good one, and
I want to see it. Little Kim has a lot
to say, and so does Foxy Brown. She's got a
lot to say, and I want them to be as
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truthful with us as they are in their music. I
want to know Little Kim's relationship back in the day
with Mrs Wallace when he was married to Faith, and
her relationship now. And I want to know her relationship
with Mary J. Blige. I want to know her relationship
with food. I want to know her relationship with her
with her surgeons and and you know, you don't recognize
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Little Kim, clearly she's had a lot of work done.
I would like to know her relationship with her baby's father,
Mr Papers, who you know, paper means money, but Mr
Papers doesn't have money. But Little Kim has a big heart,
you know, as she was born in July. We have
that in common. And oftentimes we fall for guys because
we see something in them and they make us feel
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safe and warm. And I've met Papers before. I met
him at a party, he actually out out there in
Hollywood and he tapped me on the shoulder and I
gave him the brush, like get out of here, you know,
Like I'm not ready to date and I'm definitely not
going down the hood road again. Done. I want a
man in a suit and a tie with a dimpl
in it or his cheek. There you go, you get
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double Hey, by the way, you should produce that film.
I wouldn't mind. Actually, Um, I have a deal with
Lifetime that my project is only the first out of
the gate. Um. I have a deal with them and
a little off the space over there that I haven't
gotten a chance to go go over and set up
and and stuff. But uh yeah, I I can produce,
and I can write, and I can scout some talent,
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and I know that there are people with stories to tell.
I have a wild imagination for um for a series
like give me um an idea for a ten ten
show series, give me an idea for the next movie.
And I want Lifetime movies. And I love that they
slipping curse words. You could say, bitch. I love it.
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We're we're both part of the Lifetime family, so I
love it. I love it right there. Congratulations on on everything, Wendy.
Nice to see you killing it right now and always
great to catch up. Of course, watch Wendy Williams of
the movie and Wendy Williams, What a mess on Lifetime
on Saturday. Thanks so much for checking in, Bye with Mario.
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