Ep. 4931: More DeSantis v. Trump

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Episode Transcript

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Good morning. Welcome to Wednesday,May seventeenth on the Morning Show with Preston
Scott. It's Grant Allen over therein Studio one A. I am here
in Studio one BAT. Some maysay, why do you say studio one
A and one BAT, because itpaints a picture. Every now and then,

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we even have our ready room occupiedby guests. Every now and then
someone who's new to the program.We allow them to sit in the comfort
of the ready room, and itis a comfortable room. Hasn't always been
that way. The modest beginnings ofthis radio program started down the hallway and

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studios five A and B, andyeah, it was different. It was
very, very different doing the showdown there, and so we are very
grateful and blessed to be here.But it allows you to get a sense
of the scope of the broadcast facilitybecause we have in fact studio one A

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and one B, Studio two,three, four, five A and five
B. So there you go.But we welcome you to the radio program
show number forty nine thirty one.This is good our verse today the words
of Jesus from Luke six thirty twothrough thirty six. So this is Jesus

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talking to you and me. Ifyou love those who love you, what
credit is that to you? Evensinners love those who love them. And
if you do good to those whoare good to you, what credit is

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that to you? Even sinners dothat. And if you lend to those
from whom you expect repayment, whatcredit is that to you? Even sinners
lend to sinners expecting to be repaidand full. But love your enemies,
do good to them, and lendto them without expecting to get anything back.

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Then your reward will be great.You will be children of the most
High, because he is kind tothe ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful,
just as your father is merciful.That's a tough one, isn't it.

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I don't think it's calling for usto be foolish. I think it's calling
for us to have a heart guidedby love and and instead of giving in

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in a situation where we kind ofgauge it based on Okay, well what's
in this for me? Well,sometimes there's nothing in it for you or
me, and you just do becauseAnd I personally, I think that's where

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discernment comes in. There are circumstancesthat come up where giving like I've talked
about there there are times that youmight feel compelled to hand money to somebody

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that that needs some money. Itmight be a friend, it might be
a stranger. I don't know,But there's times where discernment tells you,
I don't know that I'm helping thisperson with this gift. Maybe maybe I
need to give a little time,maybe lend a set of ears, maybe

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offer some guidance, some wisdom.I don't know, but I think that
sometimes we can live our life insuch a way that we try to collect
on relationship debts. I know that'san issue that I have to battle in

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my own walk. And you know, God's word is not meant to conform
to us. We are meant toconform to it. It's meant to kind
of shave off parts of us aswe fit into it. And this is
one of those that is very capableof doing that to all of us.

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Ten minutes after the hour, openup the pages of the American Patriots Almanac.
Next, as we start on Wednesday, Charlie Strickland in the third hour,
much to discuss. Much to discusshere in the Morning Show with Preston
Scott. It's the Morning Show withPreston Scotty. Good morning, time for

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the Farren Report. I still Iactually remember the days growing up listening as
a child and then coming back occasionallyto the Twin Cities WCCO AM eight three

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oz WCCO and the Farm Reports inthe morning. It was just it was
so much fun to listen to Booneand ericson and they would be inserting all
kinds of things, not the leastof which was that were the farm reports

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oggs and chickens and cows and whateverelse. It is great. Let's see
what we've got here. May seventeenth, seventeen ninety two, New York Stock
Exchange founded by twenty four brokers meetingunder a buttonwood tree on what is now
Wall Street seventeen ninety two. Datesback to seventeen ninety two. Where do

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you get that idea, let's forma stock exchange? That's crazy. Eighteen
seventy five Aristides written by Oliver Lewiswins the first Kentucky Derby at Churchill Downs
in Louisville. I had no ideathe derby was that old. I mean,

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they tell you the one hundred andblah blah blah running of the Kentucky
Derby, but it didn't compute thatit was that old. I will tell
you if you've never seen the movieSea Biscuit, it is wonderful. The

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book. I came within an eyelashof getting Lauren Hillenbrand on the show once
she's notoriously private about doing interviews.That book is just a marvel in my
opinion. But the story, Imean, you might not take the time

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to read the book, but ifyou get the chance to see the movie,
it's such a brilliant snapshot of whathappened in our nation as a result
of the depression. There are twomovies that really capture that through the lens
of sports. One is Sea Biscuitand the other is Cinderella Man, the

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story of boxer James J. Braddock. They are just delighted movies. And
then Sea Biscuit has the added benefitof being narrated through the movie by David
McCullough, the late author who isperhaps the greatest writer of history that I've

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ever read. Nineteen fifty four,Brown versus Board of Education in Topeka,
the Supreme Court rules that racial segregationin public schools is unconstitutional. That was
nineteen fifty four, In eighteen seventyseven, Alexander Graham Bell answers the first
interstate phone call made from New Yorkfrom New Brunswick, Sorry, New Jersey,

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to New York City. And thenin nineteen seventy three, the Senate
Watergate Committee begins nationally televised hearings.I remember that as well. That was
something. All right, when wecome back, we will ease into the
program with the story of the BlackGhost twenty one minutes after the hour Wednesday

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of the Morning Show. You knowthat I'm a fan of cars, always,
always have been, always will be. I think that's a guy thing,
although I'm sure there are some womenthat have the same fascination, but
it's not nearly as commonplace. AlthoughI wonder what will be twenty years from
now. You know, I've longthought if I could, if I bought

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a collector type vehicle, would Igo with an old Mountain muscle car.
I probably wouldn't, although I lovethem. Had one when I was a
kid that I still I talk aboutand regret selling. But that was a
dad thing. Dad said you mustsell, and so I sold m.
But if I if I could getany vehicle of any era, I don't

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know. We we've talked about thisoff and on. Is there is there
a particular vehicle that if you hadthe resources and it wasn't like a ridiculous,
you know, price tag. Let'slet's say you could get one for
twenty grand or less. Is theresomething that would be interested you beyond your
your your own color because you havea collector car. I don't know.

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I haven't really given it much thought. I love the style of the forties
and fifties. Yeah, it's almostan Art Deco kind of thing that that
evolved into those big fenders and lotsof chrome and all that. I just
think of the advertisements. Right,You've got the white picket fence, a

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spot named dog, and a massiveold spot named dog. What did I
say? Did I say it backwards? A dog named spot? Yeah?
See this, I have a spothere though my shirt it's named dog.
Happens to be all the time.Sorry. And as of oldsmobile, yeah,
you know, in a mid centurymodern kind of split level Brady Bunch

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style house. I don't know,it just it all kind of fits into
one. See I see you asa country squire driver the the station wagon
with the wood panel going in thejump seat going backward. I don't know.
Maybe maybe one day with a hordeof children. I don't know.
Can we go to the zoo?Dad? Anyway? Um, I think

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I think I would be intrigued withlike a model T. There's just something
about just cruising along at twenty fivethirty miles an hour in one of those
one of those things, and youfind one that you can put the top
back and just puts it along.Yes, yep, yep, yep,

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yep. But this, now,this is the stuff of legends. The
Black Ghost nineteen seventy Dodge Challenger rtSE. This particular one was owned by
a Detroit police officer and decorated Armyveteran, Godfrey Dennis Qualls. He used
it for illegal street racing back inthe day. He didn't mingle with the

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crowd, he didn't linger long.He would win races and just drive off
into the night, and he becamea thing of legend. Eventually, that
kind of thing just sort of wentaway, and so did he and the
car was known as the Black Ghost, and so it became legend in the

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region. And then in twenty fourteenhe told his son Gregory about the car
that was in the garage that heused to drive when he was younger.
A year later, Dennis died ofprostate cancer, leaving the Black Ghost to
his son Gregory. He got itfixed up with a few friends, revealed

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it to the world again. Newsgot out. The National Historic Vehicle Registry
added the card to its list.Why because there were only how many of
these things built? Because Dodge isdoing an homage to the thing. They're

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doing a twenty twenty three Dodge ChallengerSRT Hellcat Red Eye to pay tribute to
it. It's an eight hundred andseven horsepower supercharged engine. It's going to
sell for about one hundred grand thisone, though it's one of twenty three
that were made. That's the number. They only made twenty three of these
things, and son has decided tosell it. Well, it's going up

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for auction. Meekham's got it.It's going to be It's described by Frank
Meekam as a once in a lifetimeopportunity. The value is well into seven
figures. Fifty two hundred and seventytwo dollars was what was paid for it.
It's gonna sell for well over amillion dollars. How many millions does

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it get to two million, threemillion, four I don't I have no
idea, but just twenty three ofthese bad boys were built with a HEMI
and a four speed manual. Andso it'll be interesting to see the Black
Ghost. I'm surprised the movie hasn'tbeen made about it, I mean,

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or it hasn't been featured in amovie. You know, John Wick has
his his car. You know,the original, of course would be Steve
McQueen and Bullet. In terms ofwell I say original, maybe not.
Maybe there was something before that.I don't know, but it seems to
me Bullet was the thing. Thenyou've got all those Vin diesel and and

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Paul Walker move movies before Paul Walkertragically died ironically in a car crash twenty
seven minutes after the hour. We'lllet you know what happens with this thing.
I'm sure we'll see the news.The Morning Show with Preston Scott on
news radio one hundred point seven WFLAgot a note to here from a listener

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who said, you might mention theBlack Ghost is unrestored. That's not what
the article says, and that's notwhat I'm looking at. Article says that
the Sun fixed it up with hisfriends, and the pictures I'm looking at
show a beautiful car. Of course, people have different definitions of restored.

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But yeah, you know, I'mI'm not gonna quibble about that. You
certainly are welcome to But anyway,big story in the press box. We
got a bunch of them fedsive dropcharges against Andrew Gillham. It's over.
They are not going to pursue charges. Jury could not. It would seem,

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based on the unusual nature of thejury's comments, we have to accept
the jury's decision or lack of decision. In this case. It would seem
that there were jurors that, inthe opinion of some of the jurors,
came in believing that Gilham was guilty, period. And I would posit that

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the opposite is likely true, thatthere were jurors in that room that we're
not going to convict him of anything, period and because the lying charge to
federal officers was patently demonstrate rated.But they've found otherwise. I've been asked,
do you think Andrew Gillham would everget an actual objective fair trial,

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meaning with an actual chance of ajury being found that did not feel strongly
one way or the other. Probablynot likely federal jury in this city.
That would be tough if you couldgo. If it were moved to another

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jurisdiction, perhaps, And so itdoesn't surprise me. Ultimately, as is
always the case, judgment will findits way in other ways. But here's
the part of the story that scaresme. Gilham's defense team said, now
their client can quote resume his lifeand public service. God help us.

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That means a run for Congress insome district that's friendly. I don't know.
You could be right, You're likelyright, you know, I how
it feels that's that's that feels likethat's where it's going. But he's gonna
still have to get past the unfortunateincident in the hotel and the photos and

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everything that happened there, which there'snever really been a full accounting for.
And you know what, that's hisprivate life. I hope he got himself
straightened out. It's a complex situationwith he his relationships with others, including
his wife. So Sports Illustrated oneof its cover models is a transgendered woman

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named Kim Petris, and so aguy will now adorn the cover of Sports
illus Draded's most coveted magazine issue,the swimsuit issue. The swimsuit issue has
has evolved into multiple covers because they'retrying to get people to buy the same

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magazine multiple times for the different covers. It is. It is a magazine,
and that particular issue is designed forguys to stare at women with very
little clothing in the way of theirbathing suits. It has become something of

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a circus now with a man beingon one of the covers pretending to be
a woman a woman, and then, oh, by the way, one
of the swimsuit models, Martha Stewart. I'm sure, I'm sure guys are
going to rush to the stores tobuy that. This all right, let's

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see Martha Stewart is um, let'ssee, let's see. I was quick
pulling it up to see she wasborn in nineteen forty one. She is
one years old. Eighty one.This is the state of Sports illustrated.
Thank you very much, and Godbless hey. We don't I don't intendly

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it's not on my radar either.A man and an eighty one year old
just saying and oh, by theway, there's another story here, Preston
Scott. This is the Way oneNews Radio one hundred point seven WUFLA O'Keefe

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Media OMG got a producer. FoxNews stated Tucker Carlson was fired as part
of the deal with Dominion Dominion votingsystems. There's a lot more to that
story, but that is, infact one of the big stories in the

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press box that there's a lot moreunder the surface as we thought. There's
also seemingly maybe a little bit ofa Fiser connection. We talked about that.
That makes sense. But yeah,yeah, so those are your big
stories in the press box. Maybewe should add this lead research assistant in

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the morning show just let me knowthat yesterday Jacksonville voted for a Democrat mayor
for the first time since nineteen ninetyone. What in the world is going
on? Duval County has been trendingthat way for a while. I'm not

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terribly surprised by it, given thatthe lady who won in Jacksonville was a
long time popular television anchor for oneof the local UH Jacksonville television stations,
So she had a she had ahuge personal brand. I guess you could

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say, I don't know. Shewas thirty three percent voter turnout. Donna
Degan got fifty two percent of thevote. Republican Daniel Davis obviously had the
endorsement of Ryan de Santis, butthat and every Republican in the state pretty
much had a four to one marginin money raised didn't matter. Oh boy.

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You know, we as conservatives havealways been the more reliable voters in
off years in terms of going tothe polls. Right, it's primarily been
the left that you know, duringlike a presidential election year, a lot
of candidates can ride the coattails ofSaya, Joe Biden or a Barack Obama,

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and so that would leave the midtermsin these kind of odd elections in
May to be right of center.So what happened, Like, did did
they just have a really really popularcandidate that they turned out or was Daniel
Davis a bad candidate? I don'tknow. I have no idea. I
wouldn't think that DeSantis would link istrained to a bad candidate. But this

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is this is a very significant developmentthat the GOP in Florida had better be
paying attention to. That's huge nineteenninety one. Let's let's put some context
in that. That would be likea Republican winning Chicago a true Republican.

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I mean, she's saying all thethings love one tonight, creating a broad
coalition of people across the political spectrum. We want a unified city. People
chose unity over division. By theway, Governor Santis took another one here

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not so good. He got inthe race for the special election in Kentucky
for governor the primary and endorsed KellyKraft, the former UN ambassador, over
Trump's pick, who was the formerattorney general Daniel Cameron. I've always I

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was personally surprised by that pick becausethe fact that DeSantis went with the other
candidate, because Daniel Cameron, fromwhat I followed on social media, was
a real popular attorney general in Kentucky. Absolutely like that dude. He's a
young guy, he's he's got somefight in him, and so it made

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sense that Trump endorsed him. ButI'm surprised that the Santists would weigh into
that. And he got in lateand Cameron won. Yeah, Cameron won
the GOP primary. He will facethe incumbent governor Andy Bisher in November.

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And look, Kelly Craft wasn't abad candidate, but she was I mean,
you're right, Cameron as young,he's black, he's conservative and very
popular inside the state. And sookay, you've got the mayor of Jacksonville

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and now the race in Kentucky.And in both cases those endor by Governor
rand to Santa is lost. Jacksonville, Kentucky. I'm starting to wonder who's
giving advice to Governor De Santis onthis stuff? Should make it nervous and

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welcome to the Morning Show with PrestonScott. Apparently the new mayor of Jacksonville's

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an FSU grad who used to workhere in town. How about that?
Paying attention to this story of themarine vet Daniel Penny, charged in the

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chokehole death of a guy who wasa danger to the community. It has
been a remarkable fundraising effort for hislegal defense fund, better than two million
dollars in donations. Kid Rock gotbehind it. He gave five grand added

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mister Penny as a hero. AlvinBragg is a pos kid Rock in perfect
kid rock fashion. Yeah, theyoung man who died, Jordan nearly thirty.
His m his death is maybe betterplaced at the hands of New York

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City. When you look at thisguy's rap sheet, it's remarkable. He
had been arrested more than forty times. That's hard to believe quantify. Yeah,

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multiple violent attacks in the Manhattan subwayalone. Outreach workers were so familiar
with him that he was on thecity's top fifty list of homeless people in
most need of help. In twentytwenty one, he punched a sixty seven
year old woman in the face,breaking her nose an orbital bone. Four

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months later, why was he notin jail? Why was he not locked
in a in a secured medical facilityfor mental health? Four months earlier,
he allegedly hit another woman in theface. This is in court documents.
In twenty nineteen, he sucker punchedtwo men in the face at different subway

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stations one month apart, breaking onevictim's nose, and was allegedly threatening people
and demonstrating behavior that was concerning andand so yeah, I mean, obviously

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I have mixed feelings about this.In what way you put someone in a
rear naked choke unless that person hasa weapon in their hands, you're controlling
the circumstances. There were others there. The question I have is was was

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the death avoidable? And that Idon't have an answer for yet. Time
for the second hour five minutes afterseven am in the Eastern time zone,

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six in the Central morning, andwelcome the Morning Show with Preston Sky.
Great to be with you on Preston. That's Grant with a mic in front
of him. That is this job. He always gets a mic on our
show. I haven't taken it awayfrom me yet. It is good to

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be with you. Charlie Strickland.Next hour. Speaking of stolen microphones.
Uh, he will, he willcome in next hour and we will talk
personal defense. Grant just sometimes findshimself without a mic, but that's going
to change because they're building a studiowith I think fifteen or eighteen microphones.
That's right, that's what I hear. Live studio audience. Uh, maybe

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you go ahead and throw at Yeah, you got all those guests. You
might as will call it a livestudio audience, right, But it's a
lot of fun. It really isthe journey of Talent outdoors and what's what's
coming, and that is a newstudio that they are building at the Talent
Command Center. Cannot wait, Icannot wait. I've made him promise me

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a visit to the studio before thebefore when it's finished. And so I
cannot wait. But Charlie, I'lljoin us next hour. We'll have a
lot of fun to talk about somethings, including later on this hour a
column by Lee Williams, the gunwriter, on an NBC News hit piece

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on firearms and specifically AAR fifteens.And you just you just cannot It's so
hard to push back the media noise. It's like we've we said, I
think maybe last week, and it'sbeen said many times before. A r
does not send for assault rifle.It just doesn't. Anyway. I've gone

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through several different reports and stories dealingwith the Durham Report special counsel John Durham,
and I thought it would be usefulto go through a little chronology of
what's inside the report, kind ofa snap shot over a couple of segments
here. Early on, a lotof FBI agents as well as intelligence officers

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in the UK sat dumbfounded by thedecision to pursue this story at all,
because in the minds of most therejust wasn't anything there. And by that
we're talking about the allegation of Russianinterference and collusion with the Trump campaign as

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it related to the twenty sixteen election. Early on, intelligence officers with the
UK said that any opening of aprobe was flimsy at best. They just
did not see any use in it. In fact, there's a conversation recorded

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in the report by John Durham betweenFBI agents involved. One asked, dude,
a are we telling them UK intelligenceeverything we know or is there more
to this? Joe Pienka, identifiedin the report as the then supervisor special

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agent assigned to the investigation, replied, that's all we have, not holding
anything back. The agent that wasbeing was sharing this discussion said bleep,
that's thin. Pienka responded, Iknow it sucks now I would infer something

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by that statement. A Either Pienkais saying, yeah, we're being asked
to do something with nothing there.There's no evidence of anything and it sucks,
or he's one of those that wasprepared to suspend normal protocols, integrity

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and so forth and just go afterDonald Trump and was saying it sucks because
there's not more to it. Apparentlythis all comes from a conversation that George
Papadopolis, a campaign aide, saidthat that Russia could help by anonymously releasing

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information that it said would be damagingto Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. I
want to talk about that next,the John Durham probe. We're talking about
it here in the Morning Show,The Morning Show with Preston Scott. Let's

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remember, and it should not belost in all of this back and forth
about Trump and Russia, there werequestions and money's exchanged involving Russia and the
Clintons. There were entanglements dealing withthe Clinton Foundation where payments suddenly stopped and

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revenue to the Clinton Foundation suddenly declinedand fell the moment Hillary Clinton left office
as Secretary of State. So thefact that Russia might approach the Trump campaign
and say, hey, you know, we got information about Hillary if you
want it, that doesn't surprise meat all, because they were engaged in

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a relationship, a financial relationship monieslarge sums of money. We're going to
the Clinton Foundation. There have longbeen allegations of pay to play where money
went to the Clinton Foundation and inreturn, the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

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was generous in certain negotiations. SoPienka and Peter Strock, you know that
name. He was a counterintelligence agentat that time. He authored and approved
the opening document, met with acouple of Australian diplomats, high Commissioner to

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the UK Alexander Downer and a politicalcounselor Erica Thompson. When Durham's team talked
to the two of them separately intwenty nineteen, they corrected a record of
what was said to the FBI andwhat wasn't. They said that Papadopoulos in
fact made comments to both of them, not one of them, and Downer

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recall that Papadopolis simply stated, theRussians have information and that's all, never
mentioning any suggestions supposedly made about acampaign by Russia. Nothing of the kind
was ever said. The opening documentsaid that the Papadopolis information related to the
hacking of a Democrat National Committee's websiteand server, but according to the report,

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the FBI had no evidence of anysuch link and that Papadopolis never made
mention of hacking emails, etc.So they were taking these little conversations where
Papadopolis said, yeah, the Russianssaid they have some information whatever, we're
not paying any attention to it,and all of a sudden, that's all
that was needed to create this faultyand phony narrative and here's where it gets

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really interesting. The British We're sittingon the sideline going, what in the
world is this all about. Thereis nothing to any of this. And
remember the whole Christopher Steele dossier wasrubbish. Nothing inside of it was corroborated

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by the British intelligence after they talkedto Carter Page and informant with the FBI
went to carter Page. UK agentswatched the video of the informant and said,
for Bleep's sake, man, youwent through a lot of trouble to
get him to say nothing because therewas nothing there. At this point,

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it's May twenty seventeen. Robert Muller'sinvolved, and you remember he painfully takes
forever to find out the same thing. There's nothing there, but the upper
management of the FBI was pushing it. Durham writes that Strock quote demonstrated a

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rather clear predisposition to open an investigationof Trump, pointing to the cursing,
the demeaning of Trump, and textmessages by Strock that he exchanged with his
end mistress, Lisa Page, whowas then special counsel to then FBI Director
Andrew McCabe. In the bottom line, listened to this statement by the FBI.

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The conduct in twenty sixteen and twentyseventeen that Special Counsel Durham examined was
the reason the current FBI leadership alreadyimplemented dozens of corrective actions, which have
now been in place for some time. I thought you didn't do anything wrong,
So what corrective actions are you talkingabout. You have said all along
that your conduct was one above boardand professional. It clearly wasn't. It

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absolutely wasn't, and there's never therehas not been an accounting. And that's
why you have comments like we're nowseeing in the wake of the John Durham
report by Alan Drshowitz. I wantto get to his comments next seventeen minutes
past the hour. It's some morningshow with Preston Scott. Funny how a

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guy like Alan Drshwitz, who isa classic liberal and Democrat, is one
of the most ardent defenders of DonaldTrump. And I think it's because Dershwitz
is old school enough that he remindsus of a time when Democrats loved the

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Constitution. Now, no, notall, because obviously you look at the
Deep South. The Deep South wasthe last place where desegregation took root and
it was owned by the Democrat Party. The Democrats owned the governor's office and
the state legislatures in all of theSouth, all of it. I mean,

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think about this. US Congressman SteveSutherland was the first Republican elected to
Congress since reconstruction from Florida's second Congressionaldistrict, the first. That's nuts that
that happened as recently as what thelast ten to twelve years. That's insane.

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Dershowitz obviously has been reading a lotof the Durham report. He said,
I think it reveals that Americans areright to distrust the government, even
civil servant people in the government.This case demonstrates that people are prepared to
distort the constitution to get their way, get their partisan political way. Durham

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wrote in his report, neither USlaw enforcement or the intelligence community appears to
have possessed any actual evidence of collusionin their holdings. At the commencement of
Crossfire Hurricane investigation. Now, Iwant to just pause for a second.
When are we going to censure,censure, censure Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler

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Schiff in particular, because Shift presidedover that nonsense and claimed repeatedly he had
evidence. Remember he had a smokinggun. Why isn't he being absolutely required
to account for that. Produce yoursmoking gun evidence or you will be censured.

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Durham said the FBI relied on raw, unanalyzed, uncorroborated intelligence for an
investigation. The objective facts show theFBI's handling of important aspects of crossfire hurricane
matter were seriously deficient. For hispart, Inerschowitz, who's written a book
Get Trump, said, I thinkit was who he was, what kind

(45:36):
of an outsider he was. Hewas a disruptive outsider who had no respect
for Washington, DC permanent government.I think the Durham report shows that good
people can do bad things when theydecide they have to get Trump. And
the Trump derangement syndrome really affects decentpeople. Could we just stop right there
and examine the reality of Trump derangementssyndrome? And you know what's so interesting

(46:02):
is I find myself in the middleof it, in the sense that there
is the Trump derangement syndrome where peoplelose all sensibility, and then there are
those that are totally blind to theobvious deficiencies of Trump. And I think

(46:24):
I'm in a really good spot herewith regard to the truth. As I
said to a reporter who asked formy thoughts on the segment we did on
the phones yesterday, I said,always trumpers are wrong and never trumpers are
wrong. They're both wrong. Andwhat's absolutely positively obvious to all is that

(46:52):
the FBI and the Department of Justiceand the CIA have to likely be totally
dismantled and rebuilt. There's no doubtingthe need for intelligence opts as it relates
to foreign government, just part ofbeing in the world we live in.

(47:16):
There's no doubt that there's a needfor the Federal Bureau of Investigation, but
they have to be remade. Gotto clean the entire house and start over.
The Morning Show with Preston Scott mynews Radio one hundred point seven w

(47:37):
f LA deo program known as TheMorning Show with Preston's Got the Morning.
So a Fox producer tells James O'Keefeone of his reporters, the following producer

(47:59):
Sean lang Gill, they gave themdominion money. They say it wasn't part
of it, but we're learning thatTucker getting fired was part of that.
Undercover reporter. Tucker getting fired waspart of the dominion lawsuit. Well,
so did Tucker leave or did youguys part ways or was Tucker ousted?

(48:22):
Yeah, he was ousted. Well, he brought up things that cost the
company a lot of money. Thatwas part of it. He was going
to go after this whole thing aboutJanuary sixth. It was an inside job.
He went after this guy, RayEpps. He said he was an
FBI agent on the inside. Hebasically encouraged it meeting Epps. He was

(48:45):
going to go on the air andrefute what that guy said on sixty minutes
and the Murdocks were like, nottoo happy about it, pooh okay.
Then he said the other thing withTucker that's interesting is everyone's afraid we are
losing so many viewers and money.I'm like, well, actually, there's
a bunch of advertisers that said we'renot going to advertise at that seven o'clock

(49:06):
hour. So now that he's gone, they're starting to come back. It's
big Pharma, which is crazy becausewe do all that stuff about COVID vaccines
and we're getting money from Fiser.Does he not realize he just made the
point first of all you let meknow what those rates are when people come
back to watch the eight o'clock News, the eight o'clock Show at Fox without

(49:30):
Tucker, because the numbers aren't goingto be there no matter what they do.
They're not going to replace Tucker Carlsonanytime soon with anybody with the same
rating success, at least anytime soon. Now, nothing's impossible. Someone could
slide in there and you know,do a terrific job. But if they
do what Tucker was doing, they'regoing to eventually run into the same headwinds

(49:52):
that Tucker Carlson ran into. Whetherit's Jesse Waters, Greg Guttfeld, or
fill in the blank. You know, Brett Baer, as beloved as he
is, he keeps it in betweenthe lines. He doesn't stray off very
much. I'm not suggesting he should. He does his job very very well.

(50:14):
I'll never forget Brett Baar was thefirst one to call Arizona for Biden
before CNN, MSNBC, and intwenty twenty, I'm looking at my TV
like what CNN. Everyone knew Arizonawas a toss up, but Brett Baer
goes ahead and calls it. I'mlike, come on, guys, come

(50:35):
on, when we go a littledeeper into the interview with the James O'Keefe,
the O'Keefe media group, I gottaremember to say that instead of the
other. The producer for Fox said, when it's corporate media, you're beholden
to advertisers. Yeah, it's acrossthe board, kind of like that where
you don't want to bleep off advertisers. But he goes on to claim that

(50:59):
the former Press Secretary to the FirstLady and Special Assistant to the President,
Michael LaRosa, left the administration towork for a PR company. Guess who
the largest client is of the PRcompany, Dominion Voting Systems. That's a

(51:20):
story as well. I mean justthat alone. So it's interesting. Some
things are coming out now about TuckerCarlson and Fox News, and I am
quite certain that these things will beaddressed by Tucker and you'll know real quickly
what's going on by the reaction atFox News. I remember hearing a funny

(51:43):
story. I think Rupert Murdoch's oneof his previous wives like divorced him because
she was so offended at Tucker Carlsonthat she believed that Tucker was a prophet
from God and like that was like, that's why the Murdocks or why one
of Rupert's wives, previous wives hatedTucker Carlson. Well, that couldn't have

(52:08):
been too long ago, because Tuckerhasn't been at Fox that long. I
don't remember the timeline, but Iremembered hearing that and laughing my head off.
So she didn't like Tucker. Shedidn't like Tucker, but called him
in a prophet from God. Yes, and so yeah, she's yeah,

(52:28):
Wow, that's she didn't like Tucker. Hashtag weird, Right, So there
you go. That's who the Rupert, That's who the Murdocks kind of rolled
with. By the way, theother two big stories in the in the
press box, Sports Illustrated is gota guy pretending as a woman. I
guess he's had the surgery and allthat stuff, but he's still DNA.

(52:49):
He's dude as a swimsuit model anda cover model no less, and the
Feds are not pursuing charges and haveasked the judge to drive all proceedings against
Andrew Gillham. So those are yourbig stories in the press box. Back
with more in the Morning Show withPreston Scott. The Morning Show with Preston
Scott forty two minutes past the hour. I've been told that that story on

(53:25):
Jacksonville is wrong, that in fact, Jacksonville elected a Democrat mayor for a
very short period of time. Hewas beat by Lenny Curry. Oh recently,
but in twenty eleven, I thinkit is. Yeah, Alvin Brown

(53:45):
was elected in twenty eleven. Butstill with the wave that has happened in
Florida, the election of a Democratmayor in Jacksonville is a significant development in
my opinion. Now it's mayor,right, we all know that mayor's you
know, like you've got You've gotour friend Greg Brudnicki out in Panama City.

(54:09):
Greg is a registered Democrat, Iguess still is He's not a Democrat.
He's He's just not. But Isuspect that the lady elected mayor in
Jacksonville probably is. So you know, we'll have to we'll have to see
where that goes. But that youknow, do you consider that a black

(54:31):
eyed to Governor de Santis? It'sdefinitely. I think your point that you
made last hour of who is advisingGovernor de Santis is probably the big thing
to take away here because you wouldthink that the most popular governor in recent

(54:52):
memory, De Santis, when hethrows his weight behind the Republican mayoral candidate
in Jacksonville, you would think thatwould have a pretty good some sway because
historically daval County is Republican. Yes, it's it's now like one of the
five counties left in Florida that isblue. Right, You've got well,

(55:13):
Miami Dade went red for De Santis, but they've got daval Is still is
blue. Yeah, because I've alwaysbeen told it was conservative and it only
recently changed. I think he mighthave been twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen cycle
somewhere around there. It was onlyrecently, but you're right, traditionally it
was a much more conservative metropolitan area. But it changed. But you add

(55:39):
that to you know, for example, who advised governor to Santis or did
he just decide, I mean,he's his own guy to weigh in in
Kentucky at the last minute. Ifyou did not know the news in the
Kentucky special, it's the primary,the GOP primary for the governor's race.

(56:02):
You know, Donald Trump backed theattorney general, but David Cameron is at
his name. I want to sayDaniel Cameron something like that, I gotta
be better than this. Sorry,I got just got too much information in
my brain here Daniel Cameron, andand Trump had long back to him against

(56:29):
Kelly Craft, who worked for himas the UN ambassador, after Nicky Haley
stepped down. I mean, andshe's she's not a bad candidate at all.
But unless you got in there rightaway, why would you throw your
weight behind another candidate when there's achance that it's going to be viewed as

(56:52):
just like it is, It's beenviewed as a proxy fight between Trump and
DeSantis in Kentucky, And in allfairness to governor to Sanders, he got
in and endorsed this lady way toolate to make a difference, if it
was going to make a difference atall. But right now it looks like

(57:15):
he just doesn't have any cloud.And so when you combine that with what
did happen in Jacksonville where there wasa huge money advantage to the Republican candidate
for mayor governor to Sandis did throwhis weight behind him and he got beat.
You start to worry, I wroteto somebody, is this a harbinger?

(57:39):
The Morning Show with Preston Scott thatdow one minutes after the hour.
Of course, ironically, Greg bredNicki no longer will be the mayor of
Panama City. Doctor Michael doc Rowanwas elected about fifty two percent of the

(58:00):
vote. How in the world isit possible that less than five thousand people
showed up to vote? I'm sittingstunt. Published reports show that the vote

(58:27):
was twenty five hundred and fifty threevotes for doc Rowan twenty three eighty two
votes for Greg bred NICKI always itpossible that less than five thousand people determine
the mayor's race. And look,I don't know doctor Rowan. I you

(58:47):
know, I know Greg, andI like Greg very very much. He
was always straight shooter with us andalways available. The relationship with Mayor bred
Nikki really started in the wake ofMichael Yea and but apparently doc Rowan spending

(59:13):
his time focusing on what he calledthe city's reckless spending, raising of taxes,
failure to address problem within the city'sinfrastructure. I mean I would love
a little more context to that.Yeah, I don't know enough to be
able to well, well, Imean, the hurricane created a blank slate

(59:37):
to fix a lot of problems,and that's you know, if you know
anything about city infrastructure, you knowthat takes time. But anyway, it
is what it is. It's maybean unpopular take, but I actually am
not too disappointed if there's like asmall voter turnout. Why that means you've

(01:00:00):
got the most engaged of the populacemaking the decisions rather than what we would
consider in the online world as casuals. Well, I'm gonna do a little
rudimentary math here, which of coursewill never be my strong suit. That

(01:00:20):
said, I'm gonna I'm gonna roundit up to forty nine hundred votes divided
by a population of thirty four thousand, So five thousand of at a thirty
four thousand, you're talking about fifteenpercent voter turnout, fourteen percent in some

(01:00:45):
change shoo well today yeah, uher er, that's not good. Like
I said, in principle, I'mnot necessary early opposed to lower voter turnout
because that means the most engaged populationis engaged and those who may not be

(01:01:08):
so engaged aren't making decisions. RightIf if people aren't engaged locally and they're
still making decisions, so what arethey deciding? You know, I'd rather
have an incredibly well read that's gotelected. Though, what do you mean,
like Alexandracascio. Cortez got elected becauseyoung Turks picked a congressional district.

(01:01:31):
Yeah, where they could get awhere they looked at turnout, voter turnout,
and that it was small, andthat they could get an engaged group
buying into their rhetoric. That's true, and so there's a danger there,
a significant danger there. Yes,there is. How it works both ways

(01:01:53):
is my point. Yeah, itdoes in general, though I'm I am
fine with just the really informed sideof the population being the ones making this
call. In terms of the ballotbox. It doesn't bother me. I
wonder if it bothers anybody this morningin Panama City. I'm just you know,

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and I again, I don't knowanything about Doc Rowan. It could
be he could be a wonderful mayor. Who knows. We'll find out,
but I don't share your enthusiasm forthat lower number fourteen percent. Oh man,

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All right, Charlie Strickland on deck, alrighty, it is the third

(01:02:59):
hour up the Morning Show with PrestonScott. I'm Preston. That's Graham.
Great to be with you show numberforty nine thirty one as we approach Show
five thousand sometime in the next fewmonths. Go figure. It is May
seventeenth, it's Wednesday, and thatmeans it's time. We are joined by

(01:03:20):
Charlie strickling Up the Talent Training Group, co host of Talent Outdoors And how
are you. I'm doing great thismorning? Yeah, yeah, right,
and early had to brave the fogall the way over from Marianna. Is
Rusty the Dry Creek dog with you? No, I left Rusty and literally
at the house with Code of mydaughter's dog, and she's working from home

(01:03:43):
today, And I said, no, I'm just leading dogs here because they
a little girl dog, a littlepuppy dogs. She likes to wet little
puddles everywhere, That's what they tendto do. She thinks the store is
outside because well, I mean,you know, there's a lot of stuff
coming in out, and she whenshe needs to heal, whine at the

(01:04:04):
door. But dude, we getso busy we just forget next thing.
You know, I'm walking around class, you know what, I'm gonna leave
her at home. But poor littleRusty new puppy not new puppy anymore,
but a puppy. He always feelsneglected. Anyway, how you been,
I've been. I have been fantastic, been staying busy. I never know.

(01:04:24):
We wake up in the mornings.I never know if I'm going to
Dothan or going to Tallahassee or justgonna goof off at the house, which
I don't remember last time I didthat. But I think life's good,
very good. You are moving theproduction of talent out doors to your own
studios. We are, in fact, just for a second, could you

(01:04:47):
have ever imagined saying those words afew years ago? Ah? No,
no, I love it, youknow, but we've been doing our show
for going on six years. No, I didn't know that until Grant did
the math one day and comes out, we're show three oh something, and
I said, what what? Andthen I went back and looked, and

(01:05:11):
apparently I heeart You know, ourall of our shows are only I heeart
out, but somehow another they getuploaded to. I found them on Spotify.
I found them all the I heardestof the one you should use,
but found them on Spotify, Audible, Amazon Music three hundred and five episodes
now, which obviously pales in comparisonto the great it's a weekly show versus

(01:05:38):
and I hadn't be doing it twentyyears either. If I'm doing this twenty
years from now, just shoot mein there. We're still around. It's
gonna be Oh, come to AllenOutdoors show Will Preston and he's our guests
today. If you will be inin twenty years, Yeah, that's that'll
be about right. You'll be turningthe page all right. Anyway. Now,

(01:06:02):
it's just it's it's awesome. Andso we decided that since we're gonna
do a video blog and we're gonnado you know, sort of a we're
trying to figure out the format ofan after hour show that's a little a
little less mainstream, you know,product evaluations and you know, getting different
guests into the studio and doing thevideo sort of the sort of a Joe

(01:06:25):
Rogan type thing, but not JoeRogan. Obviously. We want to we
want our own and so we're wetook a conference room that we built and
never use, and I've turned itinto as becoming a very nice studio.
I've had to learn. I've hada well tabled legs and build tabletops and
doing decor and all that kind ofmess and figuring out what plugs in where

(01:06:45):
we're using one of our good friendsas an IT guy and and leaning on
grant Um a little bit a lot. By the way, the reason this
studio doesn't have more than three microphonesis because there's a place for a fourth.
But we learned real quickly in thefirst year, and the first time
we had three guests in here withme, it was a feedback trap.

(01:07:10):
And you can't open up four micsthis close to each other and survive and
have volume and quality. And thenthere's that giant piece of glass that is
aimed slightly at an angle to deflectsound. And so that's why there's not
more microphones in here. It's it'syou're antisocial, and well there is.

(01:07:32):
I am that that's true. Sotwo things can be true. You're in
here as the host and the producer, and then you can have two guests
in here easily. Yeah, Jadyand I can't have two guests Nope,
because there's a produc because we don'tknow anything about production. I don't know
how to open the software and Ican do my own commercial now, yeah,

(01:07:55):
but you know I don't. I'mlike, what format. Is that
the MP of what? No?Was? I wave? I don't know,
how do you do that? Sendme some instructions. I'm googling stuff.
We're gonna talk about some stuff inthe news next. Charlie Strickland with
me from the Talent Training Group,our personal defense segment on the Morning Show
with Preston Scott, The Morning Show, Preston Scott. Charlie Strickland with me

(01:08:30):
from the Talent Training Group Personal Defensesegment here on the Morning Show with Preston
Scott. I was I had gottento it yet, Charlie. The gun
writer Lee Williams, I like Lee. I don't know. Have you ever
met him? No? He writesa lot, does a lot of advocacy
on behalf of the Second Amendment aswell. But he's talked about a story
here NBC pushing fake news again aboutAmerica's rifle, and he gets back to

(01:08:54):
the history of the AAR and it'salmost like the worst thing that could have
possibly happened is that that Armament Lightrifle came out as an AR. Armor
Light you know that was the company. Yeah, the corporate name armor Light,
you know, a armor light rifle. So Armor Light was a company

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and that company actually faded and cameback and was rebranded. And anyway,
there we actually when I was buyingrifles for the Sheriff's office here in Leon
County, we bought some Armor Lightbrand rifles. Um, you know they're
they're a brand. Uh. TheNBC story says, what makes the AR
fifteen so beloved and so reviled?A rifle with military origins has become the

(01:09:40):
country one of the country's most divisiveconsumer products. It doesn't have military origins,
well no, but they they wantto twist everything. And if you
take any of the rifles that havecome along during our history or the world's
history, and firearms, I meanmilitant, civilian used, dry military use,

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which drives civilian use. I mean, these advancements have come along.
I mean most weapons over time,other than when we were hunter gatherers,
you know, were where they were. Weapons were designed for us to be
able to feed ourselves, but theywere also used as instruments of war and
they always have been. And anytimeyou can you can I mean, granted,

(01:10:25):
if you said, well, Iwant enough sixteen jet, you know
that's a that's not a commute vehicle. That's not something you want to well,
I want to get downtown in ahurry. You know, you use
it for that, that is,you know what I would coins. But
but um, the Right Brothers didn'tdesign the airplane as an instrumental war.
They designed it, you know,because that was the next technological thing they
thought. They wanted to you know, man to expand, right, they

(01:10:47):
wanted man to fly. Well,then man figured out they could drop explosive
devices out of it. Well,which which came first, the chicken or
the egg? I mean, thefact is is that they are fifteen modern
sporting rifle can fire a lot ofrounds in a hurry if you want it
to, or it can be veryprecise if you want it to be.

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It's an all purpose firearm. Um, I hunt with one. My children
and my wife hunt with one.Uh No, I don't use a thirty
round magazine when I'm hunting because legallyhave to use a fire round magazine.
I can also defend my home ormyself with one. I carry one for
personal defense, and so I canutilize one firearm. I use one and

(01:11:30):
a some six two or a threeor eight caliber, you know, and
I can hunt with it, andI can defend myself with it, So
no, it's not. It's nota weapon of war. It's a weapon
of self defense if you want tocall it that, you know, but
I have a right to have thatbecause you know, that's that's what I
want it for. I don't planon going to battle unless necessary. I

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do plan on being prepared if somethingcomes to me, And I don't think
that a bolt action rifle, whichby the way, was an advanced weapon
of war when we were still shootingmuskets, all right, and so when
somebody came out with a center firecartridge and then they advanced from a single
shot to a bolt action to whatever, you know, oh that was,

(01:12:15):
you know, that was probably aweapon of war back then and still can
be because a single shot rifle witha scope on it is a very precise,
long range weapon. And don't youthink for a second that they won't
go after sniper rifles once they getthose, And that's you know, we're
never gonna let them have them anyway, but they're certainly gonna continue down that
path and keep trying. It's abunch of who hi, and they'll try

(01:12:41):
any way possible to disrupt our abilityto use them. If that's going after
ammunition or what have you. We'regoing to pick up right there. Keep
talking about this with Charlie Strickland ofthe Talent Training Group, my guests on
The Morning Show with Preston Scott twentyone minutes after the hour personal defense segment.

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Before we get to a few storiesin the news, I want to
keep talking about this. Well,the story that Lee Williams is writing about
is an NBC News story, andyou know, say no more. These
are the same people that edited GeorgeZimmerman's call to make it sound like he
was stalking some guy based on racewhen he was answering questions from the dispatcher.
But they took all of that out, change context of things. They

(01:13:23):
don't do their research. They're lazy, But that's sort of a malady in
today's media. Charlie, why isour side those so bad at I don't
know, knowing what we should knowand being able to articulate it. I
think it is because we trust therule of law and we trust that things
are going to work out. Youknow, our side has faith. Our

(01:13:45):
side believes that right is right andwrong is wrong, and that you know,
good's gonna triumph over evil and allof the things that we believe in.
I mean we you know you don'thave faith and not think of that.
But you know, so we wefeel like people should fight fair,
they should use the truth, theyshould reason and use logic and information correctly

(01:14:08):
and apply all that to the decisionsthat we make. And the other side
it's ruled by emotion. No,facts, don't care about the facts.
We'll lie about the facts. Um, make up facts. Um, we'll
take facts that are true and twistthem around to their own, you know,
in their own favor. Well,it's like doing a calculation until you

(01:14:29):
get the number you want. Yeah, I mean, you just keep how
many times you got to divide bythat to get to the number you want
to be And and then let's fudgea little bit and we'll round. We'll
round down instead of up or whatever. Um. You know when I say,
I see news reports and even evenlike Fox News, now you won't
believe what this person said and youhave to read the article to find out

(01:14:51):
that was something monocuous or or so, and so you know, Uh,
the LGBT eliminated, Well, it'sbefore some legislative thing goes into effect in
two weeks and this, this andthat and other, and so you have
to read the news to dispel theheadline. Even on the right, you

(01:15:13):
have to do that. The newsnews reporting is on, you know,
you have to go out of themainstream to get the real story a lot
of times or dig through when youhave to read a news article on a
left or the right and then googlefacts in there or look up facts.
And that is tough. Yeah,to be able to determine what the truth
really is and what they're really talkingabout and what really happened. I shouldn't

(01:15:36):
have to research the news articles todetermine what's true or not. And so
that's why that reporter gets a check, is they're supposed to have done the
research, right, so they've paida few bucks so they could get a
check or whatever. I just I'llwatch what we say and what they say
when I hear somebody that I agreewith say something. Nowadays, I also

(01:15:59):
look at and try to find outwhat I can inform my own opinions,
because for some reason or another,people look to folks like us and expect
us to know things or to beable to render a valuable opinion, a
reasoned opinion. And what do youthink about this, and you if you
just spout off because I just wantto give an answer and make myself feel

(01:16:24):
important or I feel like I knowsomething. I want to look important in
this person's eyes without giving a lotof times I go, you know,
let me, let me look atit, let me read it. And
I find myself all the time doinga research for other people that lean on
you know, we'll ask a question. I mean, it's uh, there's
a lot of things I don't knowanything about. I know about guns,

(01:16:45):
and I know you know about theConstitution, and I know what is important
to reasons, you know, conservativepeople. But yeah, our side we
have a hard time because a lotof times we don't research things. If
you get into you just can't useemotion. And so when people ask me
a question, I also give mejust a second and I'll pull up some

(01:17:08):
stats and some facts and I tryto keep a certain number in my head
when you start talking about gun deathsor things like that. And you know
that's well, I mean, somethingas fundamental as AAR does not stand for
assault rifle in the in the inthe wrong hands, it certainly identifies as

(01:17:29):
one. But you know that's theway things are today is people. People
put labels on things that they aren't. And when you get in the habit
of changing the names and the meaningand the when when, I mean,
but we seem to be good atit in every other work, you know,
experience that life is offering us.We're changing the definition of a woman
exactly. And the thing is is, I don't care what people do with

(01:17:51):
their lives. I don't care whichway they go. I don't I don't
care who they I don't care.Okay, that's their life they lead.
You know. You can talk todiscustom morality of it and whether it's a
sin or not. You can discussthose things. But ultimately what it boils
down to is when you can startfundamentally changing the definition of things, then
who cares what something really means atthat point when everything is so fluid,

(01:18:15):
you know. So to me,you know, that's aar stands for another
rifle. I mean, and that'swhat I want to probably have about in
the next week. Is another rifle. That's to me, that's what it
means. So, my wife,why did you bring that in? It's
just another rifle. That's another no, no, no, no, no,
no, how I see it's notsay my truth is just just another

(01:18:41):
rifle. And besides, it's identifying. Absolutely, that's something else. And
the math is fuzzy because that's notthirty rounds. That's that's that's you know,
Officer, I'm not hunting with athirty round Magaz said, I'm hunting
hogs. I'm not hunting the deer. The deer out there or not what
I'm hunting. I'm hunting those hogs. And I can, you know,
do different things. Which there yougoes Charlie Strickland with me. More to

(01:19:02):
come on the Morning Show, TheMorning Show with Preston Scott on News Radio
one hundred point seven uf LA,And we are back Charlie Strickland with me

(01:19:24):
of the Talent Training Group. You'relooking at me. You already said it,
yeah, I know. I wantto talk about something else here.
I want to get your thoughts becauseI am totally conflicted. And this is
a real life circumstance that any numberof us could face. And it's this

(01:19:45):
the case of the marine David DanielPenny, New York City subway, a
guy who I argue shouldn't have beenout it was mentally ill. But he's
now making threats, threatening him,they get into an altercation, he puts
him in basically a rear naked chokeand the guy dies. Well, that's

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a technique that's taught. And Ilove how you are conflicted on something.
Don't tell me what you're gonna askme. Give give me three other things
to talk about, and then comein here and throw me a curvebox baby.
To come up with a concise response. We have ten minutes that on.
There you go. So, no, that is a technique that's taught.
Um, I was just studying.I looked at the High Liability section

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I want of the law enforcement manuals, because I went back and took the
state board. I was just curiouslyif I could pass it. Um,
and uh, And it's still inthe manual. That technique is still in
the High Liability Defensive Tactics Manual asmost agencies prohibited now. But the thing
in some some laws prohibited. Butthe fact is is the military's taught that.
So he was using a technique thathe knew to work. They use

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it in in MMA. They useit in wrestling, I mean, and
it's allowed in MMA. As listenershave pointed out by mail this morning,
because it's not a it's not ait's not considered deadly forced in most instances.
The thing is is you should holdit until the person is no longer
prevent providing resistance, and at thatpoint you should release because you're cutting off

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the blood flow to the brain.And um, you're not cutting off the
wind that you're cutting off the bloodflow to the brain. And it only
takes a few seconds of that beforethe person goes limp. I've been on
the receiving end of one of those. Yeah, well they won't do it
again. So so, um,the fact, you know, the concern
there is of course you've got youknow, prosecuting attorney up there, that's

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a political machine. Um, andit's in a liberal town, and but
it's a dangerous town. And soyou've got a trained military guy, you
know, basically chucking a guy outtill he dies. And I don't know
enough of the detail. I don'tknow at what point, you know,
how long he was responsive the storiesthat I read he had been he was

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continuing to provide resistance for some time. And so he maintain that he's not
a trained law enforcement officers, amilitary guy. Military guys aren't trained to
restrain people. They're trained to killpeople. You know, that's what the
military is for. Go go there, kill those people that are fighting us,
and then come back and you knowwhatever. And so it's you can't

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hold him to the same standard asa police officer. If a police officer
did that, and you're talking abouta different situation because if they've been trained
in that technique and it's within theirpolicy, it becomes more of a civil
liability issue versus a criminal thing.In his case, they can't sue him
necessarily. They will that somebody willbe prosecuted, but he's being prosecuted.

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So now I think he'll have agood stout defense because everybody's pouring money into
his defense, as they rightfully should. So I can't without standing there without
knowing all of the information and understandinga totality of circumstances. It's hard to
say whether or not he went toofar. I went too long, But
the thing is you can't hold himto the same standards that says if it
was a New York police officer understood. My question though, is have you

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seen because I have not, haveyou seen any reports indicating that the kid
that choked out and died sadly hada weapon of any kind. I didn't.
He just was making a bunch ofverbal threats and he had and buddy,
I mean, look, he hadseriously harmed people. You have to
ask, but you have it onthe street. But you have to view
it from the totality of circumstances.You have to view it from the position

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of the person who used the force. What did that What information did he
have at that point in time.You can't go back and say he should
have known. He would have known. What did he know right then?
And you have to put yourself inhis position and what was reasonable? So
was the force that he used reasonableunder the circumstances for what he knew at
that point in time, And that'sthe key. Without knowing all of that,

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it's hard to render decision. Isupport what he did. I support
him until the state can prove otherwise. I'll be behind him one hundred percent.
It's just one of those things whereyou know you're darned if you do
and you're darned if you don't.I mean, he did the right thing
trying to protect people, and therewere a lot of people there. Listen,
the human body can withstand a lot, but sometimes it's friendile. In

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that case, that guy had allkinds of stuff working against him. So
I mean, I've seen people chasedand jump back up and continue to fight.
I say, people chased and notmake it so more with Charlie Strickland.
Next on The Morning Show with PrestonScott, The Morning Show Preston Scott.
Final segment, Personal Defense Charlie Stricklandof the Talent Training Group. Just

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another moment on this case in NewYork City. I'm conflicted on whether I
think he can get a fair trial. On one hand, you've got the
DA that's just a train wreck anda joke. But you also have a
populace that is sick and tired ofthe crime in that city. I think
they are. And juris selection isgoing to be key in that case,

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you know, because yeah, anddon't you think he won't have a good
defense turning in a good defense,Um, they're they're gonna Yeah. Now
he may end up taking a policeto a lesser charge or something just to
avoid the possibility of going I'm withyou. I mean, I am very
conflicted because I think he was actingin good faith and I think he had

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all the right intentions, But atthe same time, how long did he
keep him in that position? Didhe quit resisting, did he maintain that
position? Did he go beyond what'sreasonable? But then again did he know
what was reasonable? So it's oneof those things where it's easy to jump
on the bandwagon on either side.I don't do that. I try to

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reserve my judgment and go there's alot of factors that we don't have all
the information until proven guilt. Rightnow, you actually to me, he
is actually is one innocent, hedid the right thing. Um, the
case is gonna have to play itselfout based on what was reasonable. And
I just don't know because I wasn'tthere. And that's the hard part and
rendering decision sometimes is it's hard toknow if you're just not there because you

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have to put yourself in that person'sshoes. You can't say, oh,
standing over here, I think thatwas unreasonable, or I think that was
one hundred percent right over here,but you weren't there. And without being
there, you know, in videotapelies as much as people do. I
mean, it represents one version ofthe facts from one view, and you
know, and and if somebody hadto been standing or let him go.

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Let him go. I don't thinkhe's going to live. You know,
if somebody had had to been screamingat UM, you don't know that that
guy even heard it. Because there'sstunner, critical incident stress. There's things
like UM tunnel vision, auditory exclusion, There's there's critical incident amnesia. There's
all these things that happened to us. You know, when our heart rate
gets to a certain level, whenour breathing rate gets to a certain level,
when we were trying to perform undercritical incident stress. There's so many

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things that we just don't Our bodydoesn't react well to unless you've prepared it.
And that's a whole part of training. And so you know, you
look at a video and you don'thave a sense of what that person,
what's going on in that person's head. In reality, I look at a
story like this and I just thinkto myself, it just buttresses something that

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you and I and JD have talkedabout on and on for going on years
now, and that is just theimportance of situational awareness and thinking ahead.
I've gotten to the since we openedthe Dothan Reins, I've gotten to teach
more. I've had the opportunity toget back into a classroom more, mostly
in small, one on one environments, and it's reinvigorated some energy I've gotten

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as it relates to talking to peopleabout these situations because I instead of doing
classes of twenty people, I'm upthere doing two or three and able to
address personal situations and really get drilleddown on things. And and you know,
people come up there just for asimple shooting lesson. That's not what
they're getting. They end up gettingthe whole conversation about you know, I
go back to critical incidence stress,which is why I just mentioned that.

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I go back to, you know, how to perform under stress, how
to what's what's going to happen inreal life situations where things are you know,
and I get people playing the mindgames. You know, what would
you do? Tell me how yourhouse is laid out? You know where
where would you when you get up? What do you see? Um,
it's important to go over that stuff, you know, standing a gun,

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counter buying a gun. That's that'sa step, that's a baby step,
really, I mean the real workcomes with how do you apply that to
the real world. It's like ifyou teach somebody how to drive in your
driveway, but before you're a teenager, until they hit the road and you
get out and drive around town withthem and then let them go do it
on their own. They have noidea of what it's really about. You
just know, here's the break,here's the gas, that's the gun counter

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experience, driving around town and traffic. That's real life. You know,
I've got a kid learning to driveright now, so that analogy works just
fine. Oh yeah, this ishow you drop off your brother at school.
Parking lots are a whole different story. Yeah, they are good to
see you, sir, Charlie stricklingwith us. Don't forget Talent Outdoors on

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the weekend Saturday mornings here and thereall over. You can get it on
the Ihart Radio app. Just lookfor Talent Outdoors on the Morning Show with
Preston Scott. Fifty two minutes pastthe hour, Steve Stewart Tomorrow joins us

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from Talash your Reports. Posford thoughtwe'll take out a road trip. Okay,
I've got a call Bogus on this. I watched the video and here's
the line. Idaho man passes sixtypounds between his hands one hundred times in

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seventeen point five three seconds. Guysnamed David Rush, he has broken more
than two hundred and fifty Guinness WorldRecords, recently attempted the records for fastest
time to transfer twenty and forty poundweights from hand to hand one hundred times,

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and he decided to take on thesixty pound version of the record,
which stood at twenty seven point sevenseconds. He said he was blistered by
the end of the attempt, buthe managed to unofficially break the record with
a time of seventeen five The attemptis going to be reviewed by Guinness World
Records for official certification. Now Ilooked at the video and they're just is

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no way that he did the exchange. Now, he's got a sixty pound
weight that is basically a sixty pounddumbbell, which would have roughly it has
thirty pounds on each side and thegrip in the middle, and the grip

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is the type of grip that youwould find on a dumbbell, and it
rotates, it turns, and sohe's wearing gloves. And in the attempt
that I watched him do with atimer, a guy with a Stopwatch.
The Stopwatch, it absolutely said seventeenpoint five three seconds, no doubt about

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that. But his claim that hedid an exchange. Think about this,
left hand to right hand with asixty pound weight one hundred times in seventeen
and a half seconds. Now youknew the math on that. One hundred

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divided by seventeen point five three meansthat he did an exchange. He did.
He did five plus exchanges every second. No, no, nope,

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nope. I reject it. Ido. I completely rejected. I looked
at the video. There is nota chance he did this, no way.
So I'm calling him out and andI will see if I can.
I'll try to post the video onmy blog page, and I'll let you
decide for yourself. Grant's gonna lookat it here in moments. He doesn't

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know that, but he's gonna lookat it. There's no way he exchanged
at five plus times a second,sixty pounds hand to hand. No chance,
No, no, yeah, nope, didn't happen. Brought to you
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Put on my rundown seventeen point fivethree seconds, question mark good visit with
Charlie. As always, we woundthat into personal defense and real life experiences,
and you heard he's like I am. He's conflicted, but the man's

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innocent until proven guilty, so we'llfind out tomorrow. Thursday, now the
busy day, lots of things totalk about. I hope you join us.
Then, have a great day.