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October 28, 2021 19 mins

RUSH: Last night on the Senate floor, New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez.


MENENDEZ: It is our solemn duty to put aside our ideology, to turn off Rush Limbaugh and leave politics in the cloakroom. Our vote on this groundbreaking legislation, comparable to Social Security and Medicare —


RUSH: Stop it, that’s all we need to hear from the guy, he’s just a buffoon, but here we are, they’re rolling, they’re on track now for their Christmas Eve at nine p.m. vote and still Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey has to tell the Republicans, stop listening to me, stop being ideological, which is all the Democrats are being here, pure 100% ideology. I got an e-mail note from a friend today, ‘Is it hopeless? Is it over? What do we do? I’d like to go out and raise some money but everybody is tapped out.’ I said raising money is not what’s necessary right now. We have had two rallies in Washington. It’s obvious that members of the Democrat Party in both the House and Senate don’t care one way or another about what the public opinion of this is. That’s been obvious for a long time. I still think, folks, what you ought to do is just pound these people with e-mails, phone calls, faxes, whatever, pound every damn one of them at their offices from now until hell freezes over, before, during, and after all of this, just keep pounding them. It’ll make you feel better, and who knows, it may have some effect at some point down the road.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Last night on the Senate floor, New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez,
it is our solemn duty to put aside our ideology,
to turn off Rush Limbaugh and leave politics in the cloakroom.
Our vote on this groundbreaking legislation comparable to Social Security

(00:20):
and medicare. That's all we need to hear from. The
guy is just a buffoon. But here we are. They
got their rolling, I mean they have. They're on track
now for their Christmas Eve at nine pm vote. And
still Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey has to tell
the Republicans stop listening to me, stop being ideological, ideological,
which is all the Democrats are being here, pure ideology.

(00:44):
I got a I got an email note from a
friend today. Is it hopeless? Is it over? What do
we do? I I'd like to go out and raise
some money, but everybody's tapped out? Is it? Raising money
is not what's necessary? Right now? We've had two rallies
in Washington. It's obvious that that that members of the
Democrat Party in about the House and Senate don't care
one way or another about what the public opinion of

(01:07):
this is. That's been obvious for a long time. I
still think, folks, what you ought to do is just
pound these people with emails, phone calls, facts is whatever,
Pound every damn one of them at their offices from
now until health freeze is over, Before, during, and after
all of this. Just keep pounding them. Uh that it
will make you feel better, and who knows, it may

(01:27):
have some effect at some point down the road. But
this is just outrageous. What is all happening. What we
are learning there are unrepealable aspects of the bill, particularly
a medical exchange plan that really sets the stage for
the government takeover of health care. It cannot be repealed.
There's no a rule has been violent, constitution has been violated.

(01:50):
There is so much of this that is illegal, and
somebody is going to have to bring the charge. And
I expect that if it's if it's if it's done,
If somebody does challenge this, it's And I have to
come from some of these states that are being left
out of all the goodies. In New York, Bloomberg is
fit to be tied, Patterson's fit to be tied. Uh,
And in in a lot of Georgia, I mean they're

(02:11):
being left out. A lot of states are being left
out of this so a lot more detail in this
as the as the program unfolds. But ideology. The reason
Menendez goes to the floor. The sent I says, do
not listen to Rush Limbaugh is because ideology is the
only way we're gonna beat this. Ideology is the only
way people in mass numbers are gonna be made to
understand just what this is and what it's about. Now,

(02:33):
we can go through individual aspects of the bill, which
we will do today, but that's been done at infinitum. Uh,
and it just it ends up sounding like mishmash people
here it all runs together. Uh, the ideological approach, this
is liberals. This is what liberalism is. Liberalism means the
loss of economic prosperity and individual freedom and so forth.
That's the message. Menendez knows it, and that's why he

(02:56):
is asking people to to not listen to me. DINGI
har Re invoked Rodney King on the Senate floor this morning.
There's a lot of tension in the Senate. I would
hope that everyone would go back to their gentlemanly ways,
and I would hope that I was trying to figure
out how to say this gentlemanly ways. I've said to

(03:17):
a number of people, Rodney King, let's just all try
to get along. So we really need to do this
is a very difficult time the next day or so,
and let's try to work through this, which is a
which is a laugh. We're dealing with some of the
most hand handed, hard handed ideologues, mean spirited extremists to

(03:38):
come down the pike, and this is what they always
do when the going gets tough. Can't we all just
get along? Can't we just can't we just stop all
this partisanship little Obama was going to handle. Let Mitch
McConnell agreed with him. Let me just add to my
good friend the majority later. He and I have an
excellent relationship. We speak a number of times in the

(03:58):
course of every day and have no animosity whatsoever. And
we are working on an agreement that will give certainty
to the way to end this session, and hopefully the
two of us together can be recommending something that makes
sense for both sides in the not too distant future.
All right, there's the Republican leader in the in the Senate.

(04:21):
What Mr Snurdle, What well? I I played that not
to just infuriate you. I played it to to inform you. Uh,
I'll go back to this email that I got. Um.
In fact, you know, I want to print out the reply.
I'm trying to remember to reply. The email I got
was from somebody who has really been invested financially and
trying to stop this, has been raising a lot of

(04:42):
money and was asking me if if, if all is lost.
And I'll find the reply to the email after the
break and share it, share it with you. Um. Now,
here's let's let's go ahead and stick with this. Let's
go to soundbites four or five and six. Uh, this
is yesterday on this program. This is me. Now, certainly

(05:03):
just send me. Violate the rules, violate the rules. They've
just stood the Constitution upside. Don't you think I give
a rat's rear end about violating a Senate rule on
when reconciliation cannon can't be used here? Senator Jim Dement's
Republican South Carolina last night on the Senate floor. There's
one provision that I found particularly troubling, and it's under

(05:24):
a section see title limitation on changes to this subsection,
and I quote it shall not be in order in
the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any
bill resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or
otherwise change this subsection. This is not legislation. It's not law.

(05:46):
This is a rule change. It's a pretty big deal.
We will be passing a new law and at the
same time creating a Senate rule that makes it out
of order to amend or even repeal the law. And
this is not how Senate rules are made. Now, this
is um You know, the language is tough, but this
is how dictators operate. This is how people who know

(06:08):
that nobody wants what they're offering operate. People who have
power and who do not, and who are very well
aware that they're running against the wishes and against the
grain of the people they supposedly governed, make it impossible
for those people to do anything about it in any
illegal way. This is not how you change the rules
of the Senate. De Mint continued, I'm not even sure
that it's constitutional, but if it is, it most certainly

(06:30):
is a Senate rule. I don't see why the majority
party wouldn't put this in every bill. If you like
your law, you most certainly would want it to have
force for future Senates. I mean, we want to bind
future Congresses. This goes to the fundamental purpose of Senate
rules to prevent a tyrannical majority from trampling the rights
of the minority or of future Congresses. Okay, that's gim

(06:52):
de mint on the floor of the Senate last night. Now,
why are they making this provision unrepealable. It's what we're
talking about here, is the Independent Medicare Advisory Board making
it impossible or difficult for future congress is to legislate
in that area to to to change this. Because Bill

(07:13):
Crystal points it out, the heart of the bill is
the attempt to get control of health care permanently in
the hands of federal bureaucrats who would allegedly know better
than doctors and patients what's good for them, and who
would cut access to care and the quality of care.
So there's more money left over for various big government
liberal social programs down the way. But this is just outrageous.

(07:33):
What is happening? I was I was telling Snargely this morning,
usually on our last day of the last show of
the of the year, we're not dealing with this kind
of stuff. The Congress has gone home. Nobody's messing around
with liberty or freedom and not there not passing new laws,
and we yuck it up and we have some jollys,
and it just doesn't seem the whole jolly time here,

(07:55):
given what is at stake. But nevertheless, we're gonna try
to combine elements in the in the program today. But
Jim demand Is is upset. But of course this doesn't
get carried much outside the Senate floor by the state
controlled media. So aside from people like you in this
audience and UH and readers of various conservative blogs and

(08:17):
so forth, vast majority of American people have no clue
about this. Yet It's very simple. Folks win, Barack Obama
and the Democrats win. America loses big time. Now here's
the Here's the email that I that I received ere rush.
I still think with sufficient public outrage, we could stop

(08:39):
the vote in the House, but it's proving an incredibly
hard to raise the money we need to reach and
mobilize the people who are not in your audience. Everybody's
tapped out and resigned. Do you still think we will prevail?
Here's what I wrote back, and it was a stream
of consciousness reply. I said, dear such and such, I
said yesterday that no amount of public outrage would matter.

(09:00):
And I believe that we've never seen this before, We've
never been involved in anything like this before. The main
reason public outrage won't work is not the public's fault.
It's a combination of mainly a dictatorial frame of mind
the Democrats all have now and the Republican Party just
refuses to get emotionally engaged. Here are outraged by it.

(09:22):
Their responses are barely above a flat line. And I
can point you to Mitch McConnell's a very gentlemanly remark
and reply to Harry Reid who asked if we can
all just be like Rodney King and just get along
in the midst of the destruction of the US health
care system. We're obsessed with being polite. And I know why.

(09:42):
It's because we don't want to anger the moderates. The moderates,
you're afraid that if we start criticizing Democrats are Obama,
that they'll run away to the Democrats when they're fleeing
Democrats in droves. Now. Now, there have been two attempts
to rally people at the Capitol in opposition to this,
and the and the reason was that emails, phone calls

(10:05):
and faxes were not having an impact. It was theorized
that bodies on the ground, boots on the ground, people
in the faces of members of the House and Senate
was what it would take to make a difference. But
those two rallies failed because they essentially didn't happen. Who
knew about it. The mainstream media didn't report them. Nancy

(10:29):
Pelosi made sure that the vast majority of people showed up,
and these rallies never got anywhere near the capital. The
Democrats knew that all these protesters are being asked and
cajole to show up, so they were able to tell
themselves it wasn't genuine and the and the numbers reported
were not all that repressive. I mean that the peasants
didn't show up with any pitchforks. And so the Democrats

(10:50):
they listened to all this and they hear all this hubbub,
and they listened to all this opposition, and they know
they're getting it, but they didn't see a whole lot
of it in Washington. And it's it's because it wasn't
permitted to get close to them. I'm not do not
misunderstand me. The people showed up did a great thing.
I'm just saying that the game was rigged before they

(11:11):
even got there. And I told this person to send
me the email. I'm gonna urge people to day to
continue to flood members offices, especially their local ones when
they go home for the Christmas break. But we we're
we're we're dealing here, essentially with people who have a
dictatorial frame of mind. The public opinion is irrelevant, It

(11:32):
doesn't matter. The election to them is still a year away.
If this were next September October and all this is happening,
you'd have a entirely different dynamic going on. Uh. The
inside the Beltway commentary it still doesn't see this as
anything other than just another day at the political office.
I was watching the Fox News All Stars last night

(11:54):
during the roundtable discussion, and you had you had uh
uh Steve Hayes from the Weekly Standard, Charles Crowdhammer and
Mara Liasson, and Hayes and Crowdhammer were involved in the
guts and the gory details in the imdeology and they
were spelling out exactly how atrocious all this deal making was,

(12:14):
all this whorring, all the bribery, all the prostitution that
was going on, all the buying of votes, all the
buying off states, all the buying of governors and so forth,
and they are making, I mean, the scoring big time points.
There's Mara Liasson, who I think I like her. I've
met her a couple of times, but she's typical of
the inside the Beltway media crowd. There's nothing special about

(12:35):
this other than it's a huge piece of legislation for Obama.
But there's nothing going on here that doesn't always happen.
This is what legislation is. Senators by votes, they trade votes,
they do so this is It was perfectly understandable to
her that legislation had nothing to do with constituents. It
was perfectly understandable to her that legislation had nothing to

(12:56):
do with the substance of it. Legislation was all about process.
And the people studying this and reporting on this in
the state control media, that's their obsession, the process of it.
Will Obama in Ken Obama secure a victory, Ken Obama
reform health care. They haven't dug into the guts of this,
and they ignore people who have. This will destroy the
country as you and I know it. This will destroy

(13:18):
the greatest health care system in the world. As you
and I are aware, this will forever change the relationship
that you and I have with our doctors because the
government's going to be a very powerful middleman. There are
death panels back in this bill, and that this is
what Harry Reid says, cannot be repealed. We are going
to ration care. We're gonna make sure that's only the

(13:40):
approved people get the kind of care that might prolonged life.
It's all in there. None of this matters. It's all
about the process. It's all about the political victory. Can
Obama bring it home? Meanwhile, the country is undergoing one
of the most major transformations since its founding. I went
and looked up a number of things, things that the
founding fathers found outrageous, and there were the tipping point

(14:04):
for them, and they weren't, I mean, the things that
caused them to rebel and found this country. And they
were nothing compared to what is happening in this piece
of legislation alone. I know people think money fundraising is important,
and it always is. But if you have to raise

(14:25):
and spend money right now, if you have to raise
and spend money to raise temperatures on this after all
this time and all this effort that it seems unnecessary,
seems like money would would not be necessary. If you
look at all the polling data, you don't need to
make more people aware. There's not one poll that shows

(14:46):
a majority anywhere in favor of this. I've always thought
pounding the individual provisions in the bill is okay, but
it's the wrong way to go because it all becomes
a blur. I hit this idiot logically at all times.
H And what Harry read has done in limiting CEO
salaries of insurance company exects limiting shareholder profits and operating expenses.

(15:10):
And if you're just joining us, you need to miss that. Yesterday,
David Axelrod assuring the left that are that are upset
that they're gonna be forced to buy insurance from a
private sector insurance companies, don't worry about it, he said,
we have running there and we've limited CEO salaries in
this legislation. Or really that they didn't take TARP money.
What gives you the right to do that. They're just
doing it. They are going to limit shareholder profits and

(15:32):
police operating expenses. Eventually that drive them out of business,
which is the ultimate aim here. Now that is there's
no other definition for this than pure fascism, which is ideological,
and it needs to be called as such. Harry Reid
has has written language saying many of the provisions of
the bill cannot be repealed. This whole thing is un American,

(15:58):
it is unconstitutional, and it's not time to be polite
with this. It's not time to be gentlemanly and let
the Democrats have their sway on this. There would have
been people with pitchforks at the Capitol if elected officials
had felt and expressed the same degree of outrage and
anger that their constituents feel and are expressing. In the end, however,

(16:20):
I still think, I still think there's a chance for
defectors somewhere along the line, and I think at some
point they're going to have to resort to a mechanism
whereby they get fifty one votes instead of sixty, because
I think at some point and Senate they're not gonna
be able to get sixty in the House is a
whole another ballgame, But the fight is not over even
if it does pass. Our guys ought to be leading

(16:43):
the protests carrying the pitchforks. Instead, they're saying things like
they're concerned, disappointed, surprised. That doesn't cut it, because that
doesn't provide leadership, and leadership is necessary. People need an
outlet and a vessel for their anger in their own party.
Not one Democrat senator with integrity or courage, not one.

(17:05):
He would only take one Democrats senator out of sixty
to object to all this, this horrendous piece of legislation,
and it would die. Just one Democrats senator out of
sixty to show some integrity, show some courage, and nobody
anywhere thinks it will happen. It's not even being discussed. Now.
What does that tell you about Democrats? And yet it

(17:29):
is always the Republicans who are portrayed. Is closed minded,
walking in lockstep? What a laugh. We now see what
walking in lockstep is really all about, and we see
what actually is important, and it's not the country. And
this takes me into yet another fear that I have

(17:50):
about all this. There are a lot of things that
worry me about about the transformation of country with this
health care, whether the relationship between uh US and our
doctors and the relationship between US and our government. But
there's also another aspect of this, and that is the
relationship between US and us between citizens. We will from

(18:16):
now on be rivals. We will be competitors for federal
money for health care for our children, uh permission from
federal powers that be for each medical visit and procedure.
And this is going to destroy folks, the traditional American

(18:37):
live and let live attitude towards everybody, because it will
inevitably become me against you when services are fewer, when
costs go higher, and it's your kid, You're going to
become competitive with your neighbor when you have to go
in and negotiate with some federal bureaucrat to see that
it's your kid that gets treated. And that's where we're headed. This, this,

(19:01):
this massive new entitlement, is going to obliterate tolerance, this
whole notion of live and let live. The way to
summarize that as tolerance, and there isn't gonna be any
more of that. Every American is gonna be looking at
neighbors with jealousy, resentment, and anger at whatever medical care
he or she receives. That cause not everybody's going to

(19:22):
get the same. That's the way socialism works. It never
ends up that way. There is never equality of outcome.
There is never sameness, even though that's the objective. There
are going to be differences and it's gonna lead to big,
big problems. Every American is gonna end up being very
extremely judgmental about the behavior of fellow citizens that would

(19:45):
in any way be considered risky, because the attitude will be,
you're taking money from my family's future medical care.

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