Weirdhouse Cinema: Hands of Steel

This week’s episode of Weirdhouse Cinema is 30 percent human, 70 percent robot and 100 percent lethal -- because the subject is the 1986 Italian sci-fi action film “Hands of Steel,” a cyborg arm wrestling movie set in the dystopian future of 1997.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
And I'm Joe McCormick, and today we're going to be
taking a look at the nineteen eighty six film Hands
of Steel, which is an Italian Terminator clone that asks
the question not just can of cyborg fall in love?
But can of cyborg appreciate the finer points of arm wrestling?

Speaker 4 (00:35):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
This one also known as Vendetta dal futuro I guess
Vendetta of the Future. And then I've also seen it
credited with another title, the Italian for hands of Stone.
Maybe that was a working title.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm not sure many did Pietra. Yeah, yeah, why would
it be hands of stone? This cyborg definitely does not
have stone in him. He has metal in him. We
see it close. Now. There was a funny thing about this.
You might ask, Okay, is this movie an Italian ripoff
of Terminator? And the answer is yes. But it's more

(01:10):
than that. It's also, as we've said, it's about love
and it's about arm wrestling. But I would say there's
a strange quality this movie has, which is that it
rips off movies that post date it. So when I
was watching, I was thinking, it's not just a ripoff
of Terminator, it's also in a way a ripoff of RoboCop,
though RoboCop didn't come out until at least a year

(01:33):
after this movie was made. And it's also kind of
a ripoff of Universal Soldier, which didn't come out until
several years after this was made. So actually, it's what's
the word for that. It's almost kind of a mystical
concept of like the idea that predates the thing from
which it is derived.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it is a holy artifact, this movie.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I could.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I was also thinking about this when it came out,
because I knew that it had this arm wrestling element,
so I'm like, oh, this was probably also influenced by
Over the Top, the stallone arm wrestling movie, but that
didn't come out till a year after Hands of Steel,
so you see a lot of that going on in this. Now,
to your point, it does have elements from these other films.
I've seen it referred to as a hybrid film or

(02:17):
even the ultimate hybrid film, which, on one hand, yes,
you do see a lot of borrowing of elements from
other films at the time, especially in Italian cinema. But
then I also feel like I have to cut a
little slack to films like this, because all movies are
hybrid movies. You know, they're varying degrees of artfulness of

(02:39):
doing it. But yeah, a lot of films came out
influenced by Terminator. Not all of them were great, but
this one is not bad. I mean I enjoyed it
from start to finish. It has some weird choices in it,
and it's a shot almost exclusively in Arizona.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Fact the state motto of Arizona the cyborg state.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Also, one of the things about this one is a
lot of the posters for it in box would advertise
that our hero in this is thirty percent human, seventy
percent robot, and one hundred percent lethal.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
He says that in the movie. Remember when there's like
the reveal scene. It's a tender sort of love scene.
Remember when when Linda is like what are you and
he's like, I'm thirty percent human and seventy percent robot.
He doesn't say the lethal part, but he's like, got
it down to the percentages.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, I mean he knows.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Is that by weight or by volume.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I guess by volume, that's the way I interpreted. I
was thinking, like which, like the different limbs and organs missing?

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Right?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Though we never get a clear picture.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
There's some flashes of schematics and whatnot, but I don't
think they really contain that much information on this premise.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I guess now that we've said the thirty percent human
seventy percent robot, that's already the elevator pitch from the movie, right, Like,
what else is there to say, except well, he's an assassin?

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
When is this movie set.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's set in the future of nineteen ninety seven, so
a little over a decade into the future. Now are past,
But yeah, it's about a cyborg assassin who rediscovers his
humanity and meanwhile, his murderous handlers pursue him across the
Arizona Wasteland in order to keep him from falling into
the wrong hands and of course getting away with his

(04:30):
change of heart. You're not supposed to change your heart
if you're part of team bad Guy.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
That's right. Let's hear that trailer audio.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
The Seed with Mission as directed and don't let there
be any mistakes.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
No trillies.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
No trillies, just follow my orders.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
He won't play. Seventy percent of my body has been
bionically reconstructed, all right, Yeah, yeah, I was. I was

(05:23):
instantly intrigued once I once I heard this. This is
one I had not seen before. I just finished watching
it this morning, and uh, I remember the VHS box
art I think, or maybe the DVD art. It has
this wonderful illustration of our lead character with what really
seems to be an arm of steel. So yeah, it's

(05:44):
a it's a sci fi extravaganza.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
So if you watch the credits for this movie, they
named the director as somebody named Martin Dolman. Now Martin
Dolman is not a real person. That is the the
pseudonym the nom de what's the movie version of nomdger
Nom de cinema of Italian director Sergio Martino, who is

(06:07):
famous for having directed a lot of classic, famous slush,
infamous Italian B movies and Jallo films.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
He's noted for having said that while some directors create
sparkling wine, he creates soda pop. But at the end
of the day, he'd rather have a good soda than
a bad sparkling wine. I think that's a fair comparison.
I mean, I think it's up for the viewer to
decide which this is. If this is a good soda
pop or if it's a little bit flat. I don't
know it got the phyzy sensations going for me. But Martino,

(06:41):
He's directed all sorts of pictures. He has sixty six
credits on IMDb up through twenty twelve, and they include spaghetti, westerns, comedies,
various genre pictures, and of course this one is a
sci fi action flick.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I would actually say that this movie is a room
temperature hand of Schwep's ginger Ale, which is not necessarily
a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I mean, it looks like it's made from all natural ingredients,
though I don't know if there's any high fruitose cornser
up in here. This feels like it's just got sugarcane.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
One picture from Sergio Martino that is and dear to
my heart is Screamers from nineteen seventy nine, which we
might in the future come back and look at in
greater detail. I own this one on Blu Ray. I've
talked about it a little bit on the show before
it was originally titled Island of the Fishmen, but then
it was released by Roger Corman in the US with

(07:34):
this new title and a new opening sequence featuring Cameron
Mitchell and I think the new opening sequence sequence was
actually directed by Jim way Narski of Chopping Mall Fame.
But it's a wonderful film about fish people and treasure
and explorers in which a human being does not turn
inside out, despite that being like the promise on the

(07:57):
poster art and the VHS box art for screen when
I was a kid.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh, I think that was the context in which it
originally came up. It was like we were talking about
movies where the poster or the box and the title
give you absolutely the wrong idea about what's in the film,
like not even close.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, So Screamers as promoted by Corman and company, Yeah,
it just seemed like it was going to be a
body horror nightmare that I wanted no part of as
a child and would be you didn't reluctant to engage
in even as an adult. But really it's just a
wonderful fish man film, and Martino directed it.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Martino also directed a number of Jallo movies. If you're
not very familiar with jallo movies. This is a term
that sort of a loose designation for an Italian subgenre
of like murder mystery type movies that are that in
a way predate the emergence of the slasher genre in America,

(08:52):
where there would be like a knife wielding killer and
a number of characters who would get murdered one by
one while some characters try to figure out what the
identity of the killer is, and usually the identity is
revealed at the end, and it's some kind of bizarre twist, like,
oh my god, I couldn't believe it was that person.
And so Martino has a number of movies like this.
One of the ones that stands out in my memory

(09:12):
is a weird one called All the Colors of the
Dark from nineteen seventy two.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
I love the title.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I've not seen it, it's been a while, but if
I recall, it's the story of a woman who I
think she's supposed to be Italian but living in Great Britain,
and she ends up believing she is pursued by the
members of a Satanic cult. But I think there's a
twist ending.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Okay, now, in terms of the writing on Arms of Steel,
Martino has story credit, but he shares screenplay credit here
with five other people. I'm not going to list them all,
but they were individually involved in such films as Zombie
nineteen ninety, The Bronx Warriors, Missing An Action, Argo Man,

(09:54):
The Fantastic Superman, and Devilfish. I think I've seen all
of those.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Of the writers is named Elizabeth Parker Junior, which, much
like Martin Dolman, is actually an anglicized pseudonym, this time
for Elisa Briganti, who wrote a bunch of well known
Italian B movies. I think she wrote full cheese movie,
Zombie and a number of gross out movies of that ILK.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
All right, as far as the cast goes here, we're
gonna we're gonna get to our hero, to our cyborg.
But I want to start with the uber villain of
this picture, the character Francis Turner, because he was played
by John Saxon, who lived nineteen thirty six through twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I think when you told me this, I was like, oh,
John Saxon, then it can't be bad.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah. He is a legendary American actor, mostly appeared in
B movie or a lot of B movies and genre pictures.
In this, he's the mastermind who hired the cyborg assassin
and then has issues with his job performed. He's very
much a corporate suit villain for the most part. In this.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
You could call this movie a deadly game of cat
and mouse that ultimately boils down to a performance review. Yes, yeah,
but so John Saxon is weird because he's one of
those actors who mostly did bad movies. But I do
just always kind of perk up when he shows up
in a film. I mean, he is in some great

(11:25):
movies too. He's in Enter the Dragon. Oh yeah, yeah,
he's which you know, of course, is fantastic. That's a classic.
He's in Nightmare on Elm Street.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
So he's in some A list films as well. But
if you scroll through his like all the B movies
he did, you will come across a number of huh
I've never heard of that?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, Like, just just to name a few in addition
to the ones you just mentioned. He was in nineteen
seventy four's Black Christmas. He was in Battle Beyond the Stars,
Prisoners of the Lost Universe, Beverly Hills Cop three, Craven's
New Nightmare. I actually like that one from Dust Till Dawn,
Dario Argento's Tinebray, Antonio, the Antonio MARGARETI horror film Cannibal Apocalypse.

(12:13):
That's one that he's I think he's the star of
that one. I haven't actually gotten around to seeing that one,
but it's infamous. He was in two episodes of Night Gallery,
and he was also in another Martino film, The Scorpion
with Two Tales from nineteen eighty two. But I agree
with you, even no matter what the movie is, when
Saxon shows up, I get kind of excited about his presence,
like he's a dependable actor. He was never a bad actor,

(12:36):
but it's like he's kind of like B movie royalty.
It's like that Dick Miller factor when he shows up.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I wouldn't put Saxon for me quite on the same
level as Dick Miller, because at least Dick Miller is
always funny. You can yes field it. Dick Miller I
think brings comedy to roles that even that wouldn't be
funny on the page if you just like read the
character's lines. It's not a comedic performance. It can just
be like a you know, a straightforward minor bit part

(13:03):
where he plays a shop owner or something. But somehow
in his delivery, Dick Miller always makes the character funny.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, whereas Saxon, it's more just knowing that it's Saxon
and knowing that he was in all these films and
that he you know, he fought alongside Bruce Lee. You know,
he's just just a legend of this caliber picture. All right,
let's get to our hero then. Okay, this is Paco.
How do you say his last name?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Quaerak.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, this is This character was played by Daniel Green,
who was born in nineteen sixty and is still out
there working. So he is our oily muscled up cyborg.
Green was on Falcon Crest back in the day. He
had small roles in various mainstream comedies such as Kingpin.
He did a lot of TV work. He's been everything
from a police officer on Three's Company, to a hunk

(13:51):
on Night Court and even popped up in Eastbound and Down.
So this is the guy that did a lot of work,
and he must have been Martine must have liked working
with him, at least because he he was in five
films for Martino overall, this one beyond Kilimanjaro, after the Condor,
the Opponent and American Rickshaw The Opponent by the way
boxing movie.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Daniel Green, So I got a sense, I wonder what
you think about this that often on the set they'd
be setting up for a scene and Daniel Green would
start to make the argument I think my character would
be shirtless in this scene and they're kind of going,
they're like, I don't know, that's not in the script,
and he's like, no, hear me out right. It's hot,
you know, and he's been working or doing this thing,

(14:32):
and so like the shirt would be off, and they're like, okay, Daniel.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, it's hard to argue with that chest, I guess.
But in these scenes where he's shirtless, he seems more
shirtless than a normal shirtless human somehow. Maybe again just
because of his muscles, he's.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Like one point six percent shirtless to the regular one.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
So we'll be talking about him a lot because he's
he has a lot of fun in this. But then,
of course we have our female lead, and that is Linda.
I don't know that Linda has a last name.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, I don't recall if they say it, but that goes.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Along with the writing for the character.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Really, she's played by Janet Agrin.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, Swedish model turned actor who appeared in nineteen eighty
five's Red Sonia, as well as the Luciofolci nineteen eighty
horror film City of the Living Dead, among many others.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, it seems like she mostly starred in various kinds
of Italian exploitation movies and horror films, and a couple
of I noticed in the list of some z tier
shark movies. Have we done a shark movie on weird
house cinema yet? I mean, I feel like I've spent
I've wasted so many hours of my life watching terrible
shark movies. I can't believe we haven't even gotten into

(15:42):
the shark realm of cinema yet.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Oh we should. We'll have to save that one for
Shark Week.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Right, Yeah, oh yeah, Okay, that's an idea. But so,
here's the thing I discovered earlier today. I was trying
to find out more about Janet Agrin, and I discovered
she actually had a limited musical career, and I can
only find one recording of one song by her. It
was a nineteen eighty four single. So this movie came
out in eighty six. This musical number pre dates the

(16:09):
film that we're talking about today. It's a nineteen eighty
four single called Teddy Bear, which is a deeply bizarre
Italian disco song where the instrumental track on it actually
somewhat recalls Psycho Killer by the Talking Heads kind of
popped up so they make Psycho Killers sound a little
bit more manically happy, and then the song appears to

(16:33):
be literally about a teddy Bear. The chorus is Gimme,
gimme Teddy Teddy My teddy Bear. I don't know if
something is lost in the translation of this, but this
song is just like a doorway to untold realms of suffering.
It's the box from the hell Raiser movies. You should
look it up and listen to it to summon the
chains out of the walls.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I'll share a link to this on the blog for
this episode, but let's go ahead and as seth to
play the legal limit on Teddy Bear. Okay, see see

(17:13):
you want more, don't you do you? Okay, keep listening,
you'll get to where you'll be up for that second listen.
I think I ended up listening to.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
It twice, pleasure and pain indivisible.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
All right, let's go ahead and talk about the character
Peter Howell in this played by Claudio Casanelli, and this one,
this gets a bit tragic, but it's necessary to discuss
because he's one of our main sub villains. He lived
nineteen thirty eight through nineteen eighty five. He played Zeus
in the Luf Forigno Hercules movie The Adventure of Hercules,

(17:44):
which I remember seeing as a kid, and that's another
very muscly movie. But Cassinelli sadly died during the production
of this film in a helicopter crash in Arizona. I
think for this reason, his character is largely absent from
the final show down. And there's another character played by
Roberto Bisacco that fills his basically fills in his role

(18:07):
or his character fills in the villain role in the
early parts of the film. So the ultimate ultimately the
finished product, you know, it shows the sign of them
having to write and film around the fact that one
of their one of their lead actors died during.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
The filming of the motion picture.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh wow, that is sad, and that now explains things
about the plot that did not make sense to me
before there is a strange, sort of like trade out
of characters it multiple points.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, so he's good in it, as as is Roberto Pisacco,
who basically plays a similar character. But yeah, it was
kind of weird to watch it knowing that that was
going to occur, especially when we get to the scenes
with the helicopters with the bridge, because what apparently happened
was the chopper clipped the bridge and then the chopper

(18:58):
plummeted four hundred feet into.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
The Colorado River.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
But a constant in this though, no matter which villain
character is present, there's this guy with round sunglasses. Yes,
and I'm not sure who this character is or who
plays him. I spent a lot of time looking at
the IMDb list for this movie, and it seemed impossibly
short for the number of humans that are actually in

(19:23):
the film. It's possibly this guy Andrea Coppola, but I'm
not sure.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
I don't even recall if we learned this character's name.
He's just the hinchman with sunglasses who's there in every
scene with the bad guys.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, so he has a lot of screen time for
an actor that I couldn't quite pinpoint now, A sub
villain of note in this film is the character of
Rale Morales, who's what would you call him? A trucker?
A mean trucker.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
He is a bad trucker. This movie has a number
of bad truckers in it and some good truckers. I mean,
it runs the gamut of of trucker morality. You get
a real stand up trucker who shows up in the
ending sequence, but some of the truckers we meet early
on are aggressive, loudish, no good dudes. And George Eastman
plays Raoul. They're the leader of the bad truckers.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, George Eastman speaking of like a treasured trading card
of somebody who or at least I spot in the
film and instantly I am hooked. This is this is
big George Eastman. This is this is a guy that
pops up in a number of B B t Z
films from Italy from this time period. Have you seen

(20:36):
George Eastman in a film before it? Was this your
first time?

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Joe?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Oh, I know I have, but I don't remember which one. Well,
you know what, I bet I've probably seen him in
at least parts of movies that I've never watched. The
whole thing of like, I know, I've watched part of
Anthropo Vegas but did not complete it.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Oh okay, well yeah, we'll get to that one a second.
I completed it. It was it was a journey. But
so He's Eastman is always memorable because he's one of
those character actors that has such a distinctive look. He
has this physicality and just a knack for playing crazy.
It's like any kind of crazy. He didn't always play
crazy over the top characters, but when he does, he's memorable.

(21:16):
And yeah, he's an interesting character. He was born Luigi Montefiori.
He's sometimes credited under that name, sometimes credited as various
other names, but the name George Eastman shall be the
one written forever in B movie lore. And it's easy
to see why he got a lot of work, first
in spaghetti westerns and then in various genre pictures because

(21:37):
in his prime, this man was a little over sixty
six and I've seen him. I've seen him promoted as
being six', nine which makes me think sixty six is probably,
accurate because you tend to bill your big men as
being even bigger than they.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Are he is a big. DUDE i think he's Even
like the lead guy in this, Movie Daniel green is
very he's very large, guy But eastman is taller than.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
HIM i, think, yeah, yeah he seems to tower over
everybody in the. Film he was lean but, muscular and
he often spouted this impressive. Beard so he's one of
these guys you see just other you see some pictures of,
him you be, Like, okay he's, handsome, sure but then
you see eyes as you see these images where he's
like really making crazy, eyes or he's grinning with these

(22:22):
Enormous he's got this, enormous like perfect, grin but it's
just a little too, wide like it's the grin Of.
Satan so he's always a lot of. Fun sometimes he
plays non, villains but he tends to excel at playing dirt, bags, warlords,
monsters and he's played some notable examples of all of.
Those for, example he was In Enzog castarelli's nineteen eighty

(22:45):
three post apocalyptic Film warriors at The, wasteland playing the
post apocalyptic Leader. One he was again in The Joe
diamado low budget monster slash slasher Film anthropoveagas from nineteen
eighty And absurd from eighty. One so in these movies
he plays essentially the same, character an insane killer with

(23:06):
a mutant healing. Factor they're very low, budget only loosely.
Connected in the first, one he's this grotesque cannibal monster
and clos wartman who's kind of A oh what was
the character In Dante's inferno who goes mad because he
had to eat his?

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Family?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Oh, WELL i can't remember which one it, is but
It's ugolino And. Ruggieri they're together in the very lowest
layer of, hell those who like Betrayed KEN i, think or,
something or betrayed betrayed. People it was like the worst
kind of betrayal as imagined By. Dante and they're like
frozen in ice together right at the bottom of hell
before you get To satan. Himself and It's Count ugolino

(23:44):
And Archbishop ROUGIERI i, think and one of them is
just gnawing on the other one's head like it's a. Ham.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah so it's that energy without any of, that without
any of that. Depth but it's, LIKE i think he's
supposed to have been a Guy lennon's family who were
shipwrecked on This greek, island and then he had to eat,
them and it drew drove him, mad and so now
he's just a cannibal wild man who kills and eats
anybody who shows up to. Vacation there he dies at the,

(24:12):
end and the memorable scene is that he's disemboweled and
then he pulls out some of his own intestines and
starts chewing on. Them so, it's you, know it's it's
a notoriously grizzly. Scene and otherwise it kind OF i,
guess slow, film but it's one of those where kind
of Like Texas Chainsaw, masacre where the film quality is
such that everything feels slightly more real because it feels

(24:35):
like you're watching a documentary footage or.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Something.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, Yeah, EASTMAN i would, say generally exists at the
nexus of a lot of really gross. Movies.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah they did a sequel, again Titled, absurd and apparently
the story on this was like they're they're, like, okay
we made money off of this first. One it was
actually a, hit so we're going to do a, sequel
And eastman was, LIKE i don't, know and they're like
and then and Then JODI a models here's the script
In eastman's, like, yesh So eastman rewrites it and it's

(25:05):
essentially A halloween, clone but it has some memorable scenes in,
it and his character in that is Named, mikos and
it's a little more pronounced that he has some sort
of mutant healing. Factor but in that one he doesn't
have any. Makeup it's just Straight eastman crazy, face WHICH
i think is one of the appeals of character actors Like,
eastman because in a film that can't really afford any

(25:27):
kind of special makeup or special makeup, Effects eastman's face
is the special.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Effect you.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Know, oh, YEAH i know what you.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Mean he was also in nineteen Ninety The Bronx warriors
twenty nineteen after The fall Of New york Blast Fighter Rabid.
Dogs he was in the nineteen eighty Seven Barbarian twins
Movie The barbarians THAT i haven't seen, yet BUT i
know you purchased for, Us.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Joe, oh that's.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
RIGHT i. FORGOT i had. That that came on like
a double feature disc THAT i got with some OTHER
b Movie i've. Forgotten now go check in a. Bit but,
yeah you, KNOW i love my leather Diaper barbarian, movies
and this appears to be a two diaper.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Affair so one thing THAT i love is that That
Joe eastman is in all of this just righteous. Garbage
and yet a number Of Sunday school classes may have
Glimpsed eastman when they Watched Richard gear As King david
in nineteen eighty five's Movie King. David this is the
one that Had gear and then also Had Edward woodward

(26:29):
in it As King. Saul but in, it of, course
it's A King david, movie so you're going to encounter
at least some flashbacks Of david And. Goliath Who's. Goliath
It's George.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Eastman oh, okay, yeah that makes. Sense.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Now eastman worked a lot with The Joe. Diomatto they
created some against some just really trashy films with each,
other but not only as an actor For, eastman but
also as a. Writer it turns out he did attend
The Italian National Film, school AND i guess he. WAS
i haven't seen any OF i think any of these later,
works but he worked mostly as a screenwriter For italian

(27:02):
television from the early nineteen nineties. Onward, Huh and he
directed a couple of films as, well or, WELL i
think he stepped in and did some scenes on a
couple of, films but there's only one that he wrote and,
directed and that's a nineteen ninety mad science horror film Titled,
metamorphosis WHICH i haven't seen it in his. ENTIRETY i
think that's WHEN i started watching late at night once

(27:22):
and had to go to sleep.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Instead and you have not resumed the journey.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Since, No but NOW i want. To, Now i'm, LIKE
i want to see what he brought to the table on.
That but, Yeah George eastman always a treat when he pops.
Up but ALSO i guess When eastman pops, up you
also have to question SHOULD i be watching? This let's
see other. Actors donald O'Brien is in, it Playing Professor,
ulster a short. Role he was born in nineteen thirty

(27:47):
as A french. Actor interestingly, enough he played the Character,
petro WHO i don't really remember from the nineteen eighty
six film adaptation of The name of The, rose but
b horror fans probably know him better as The Doctor
BUTCHER md from nineteen Eighty Zombie, holocaust which was also
promoted As Doctor BUTCHER.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
MD i am not.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Familiar, OH i don't Think i've actually seen, it But
I'm i'm familiar with it by, reputation so it's sort
of on the, LIST i, guess just BECAUSE i like
the idea of there being a Doctor BUTCHER. Md but then,
Again butcher's not that uncommon of a last, name so
there have to be some Doctor butcher MD's out.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
There so we know That George eastman plays the bad
trucker in the, movie but there's also a trucker who
turns out to be a good, trucker and that is
the arm wrestling Champion.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Blanco, Yeah blanco seems to be the regional arm wrestling
champ played by a guy Named Darwin swave who lived
nineteen forty six through nineteen ninety. Nine American broadway actor
who played a heavy and a number of notable films
because he's just kind of like this big bulldog of a.
Guy he was In Police academy, Six, Heartbreak, Ridge Summer School, Cry,

(28:54):
wilderness which is a Terrible bigfoot. Movie but he played
a wrestler In Barton. Fink oh did he Play wallace
B that he's just credited as being. Wrestler he might
be the other wrestler In Barton. FINK i don't specifically remember.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Him, Now one of the big connections with this film
is with the, music because this movie has a score
By Claudio.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Simonetti, yeah talk about, legends one of the biggest names
on this picture for, sure notable for his solo work
but also his work as part Of. Goblin his electronic
and prog rock scores helped many An italian genre film
to come to, life oftentimes more so at LEAST i don't.

(29:35):
KNOW i think many people have come to life more
than they would have with any other. Music and also
the work Of semonetti And goblin it ultimately influenced and
inspired in an entire generation of electronic.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Artists Seeing goblin in concert is a real, treat And
i've Seen goblin in concert. Twice these are really good.
Shows they tended to be sort of split half and
half between stuff based on movie. Themes they do like
A i don't know, what felt like a kind of
weird improvisation based on the score TO tenebrae or or

(30:07):
one of the Other Dario argento movies that they did
the score. To those are some of their best. Scores
but then also there would just be Like italian prog
rock with shredding synth.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Saxophone, yeah it's a it's a definite. Sound, again it's
it's been very. INFLUENTIAL i would say probably some of
the best scores and the best known scores that he
worked on Were, Suspiria Deep Red. Tenebray i'm also extremely
partial to his work On warriors of The, wasteland WHICH

(30:37):
i mentioned earlier from nineteen eighty. Three but it's AND
i guess another THING i love About Claudio simonetti And
goblin is that this is the music that has kind
of Become halloween. MUSIC i feel like, INCREASINGLY i don't,
know at least in the CIRCLES i moved, Through like
if you see A halloween, playlist you're going to get
some Of semonetti's. Sound AND i think THAT i Love Monster,

(31:00):
mash BUT i far prefer a great synth.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Score, yeah me.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Too so one thing THAT i would like to point
out about the music in this movie is THAT i
feel like the score Of hands Of steel is very,
funny but not because it's, Bad like it's a good
type of whatever this type of score. IS i, mean
in some ways it's sort of A terminator score, ripoff

(31:26):
but it's also got the great Original Claudio simonetti. Magic
and what's funny about it is the way that it
sometimes kicks in with a sudden transition or cut in
what's happening on. Screen so there's one example that you might.
Recall there's a scene WHERE i think there's no music
in the background at, all and it's just it's just our,

(31:48):
protagonist our borg man sort of haggling with a junk
car dealer about whether or not to get a. Car
and it's a slow moving. Scene they're just talking about, like, oh,
yeah i'll give you that car for a give, it
give it to you for two hundred extra. Bucks and
he's like, deal, okay no music in the, background very,
calm and then just slam cuts to him driving on

(32:08):
the highway and it's, like.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Digit, YEAH i love.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
It, well let's let's go ahead and see if we
can GET seth to give us the legal limit on
The on one of the tracks from this, soundtrack this
is the that the track Titled Atomic. Arm all, RIGHT

(32:41):
i have to say if you if you love that
AND I i loved, it then you can stream or
buy A seminetti soundtrack For hands Of steel on Band.
Camp it's on, there published Under italy's Rust blade, records
and you can even get it get a physical version
on silver. Vinyl and THIS i was, checking this was
just released last, month so that what. Luck you'd think

(33:03):
they sponsored, this but they did, not because we did
not get silver records in.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Payment how did you find this?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Movie by the, WAY i just wanted Something, italian you,
Know AND i started looking around AND i wanted something
that what that wasn't like too.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Not as awful as some of Those italian horror movies.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Are, yeah OR i didn't WANT i didn't want something
too boring, either and so this seemed to be Like Dead.
Center this seemed to be like the Good Punching.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Zone this is a good, find.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
All, Right SO i guess it's time to start breaking
into the plot of this.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
BABY i don't know if.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
You had the same ASSOCIATION i did with the very,
beginning the very beginning of the opening credit, montage because
WHAT i immediately FELT i was watching at the very
very beginning before the music, changed was an industrial dystopian
take on the opening credits Of Twin, peaks though once,
again this pre Dated Twin.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Peaks Huh, NO i didn't get The Twin peaks note so,
much but, yeah it starts setting the stage for some
sort of near future dystopia some Hell city in the,
background but would not really go Into Hell city so,
much because most of this seems to take place either
on the outskirts Of Hell city or more, specifically out In.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Arizona, yeah it's only Hell city for a few minutes
at the, beginning but, No i'm gonna hammer. It like
if you watch it. Again at the very, beginning there's this,
dreamy Almost angelo bottle Of mintee type music sort of
sort of floating along over shots of drab urban alleyways
flooded with fog and oil refineries just belching smoke and

(34:49):
flames into the, atmosphere people just generally having a hard.
Time it's showing, you like a lot of people appearing to.
Suffer and then suddenly the soundtrack just shifts into high
gear from out of. Nowhere the, drums, bass and saxophone come,
along and it's clear That, nope this is going to
be a NonStop thrill. Ride this is not a dreamy
walk through Twin. Peaks one of the funny things we

(35:12):
see during the opening creditspontage is showing you these scenes from,
like you, know blasted industrial landscape and a dystopian, city
but it also keeps showing these posters and banners with
a slogan that says you have no, future and what
appears to be the guy who says, that like a

(35:32):
guy pointing a, finger a guy with a white. BEARD
i think we're going to find out who this guy
is in a, minute and it's this dude Named Reverend.
Moseley BUT i was just, thinking, like how did this
guy get so popular with the, message like bringing his
you have no future message to the nation?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Tonight, YEAH i don't know own IF i don't know
if something's lost in translation, there or if it's more
of a situation where there's more to, it like you
have no future under the current. ADMINISTRATION i think that's
what it's supposed to.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
BE i think he's, saying like things are, bad you
need to take control of your. Life BUT i just
don't think you have no future is a good way
to message.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
That, NO i MEAN i. DON'T i wouldn't want to
wear that on a, button.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Right BUT i guess so we pretty soon meet this,
guy the old guy with the white. Beard he is
this guy Named Arthur, Moseley Reverend Arthur, moseley who seems
to be talking about his message seems to be an ecological,
one like he's talking about pollution and how industry has
destroyed this world and air pollution is killing. People and

(36:38):
we see him in a headquarters that's set up in
like A cd, hotel where he's got assistants who are
helping him out and talking with the police about how
he needs. Protection and then there's a great piece of
futuristic technology in here where you See moseley speaking into
a word processor that takes voice. Dictation so we got

(36:59):
that on one, Hand moseley and all his friends and
the police who seem to be, like, whoa you, know
the people want you. Dead we gotta help protect. You
and then on the other, hand we Meet Turbo. Lug
this is the protagonist of the. Film when we first meet,
him he's driving a red muscle car and he's just
this gentleman of beef who gets his own high octane.

(37:20):
Soundtrack yet, again one of those, transitions like when it
cuts to him immediately new music really driving, forward heavy.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Beat, YEAH i mean you got to get that electronic in.
There you got to have your music be at least
seventy percent electronic because he's seventy percent.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Electronics oh that's a good. Point and so we see
him come into the same hotel Where moseley and his
people are hanging, out and as he's moving around in the,
HOTEL i gotta, Say, claudio we know you do great,
work but some of the music in this sequence in
particular is as close as you can get to The
terminator soundtrack without a. Lawsuit it was really on the.

(37:55):
Nose but, anyway we See Daniel, green The gentleman Of,
beef coming back to his apartment and it seems to
be on the floor below where the anti pollution guy,
is and so he's wandering around his. Apartment we also
see another piece of great future, technology which is the cyborg's,
watch which is just like a digital, watch BUT i

(38:17):
guess it's got a calculator on. It maybe this was
an early time for.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
THAT i.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
GET i mean at the time this was probably a
super advanced.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Watch, yeah but it's got like AN lcd. DISPLAY i,
mean it's really. Special but so we see him in
his apartment and he's got mustard in his. APARTMENT i
want to know this is a store mustard at room temperature,
guy because it's just sitting on the kitchen, table not
in the, fridge and we watch him take a shirtless,
nap and we watched the sunlight glinting off of his

(38:47):
well oiled, body AND i was like shining in beams
off of his pecks in the side of his. Face
and then he starts getting visions of faces and. Voices
right there's This David strathin looking guy who suddenly pops
up in the cyborg's head and tells him to proceed
with mission as directed and don't let there be any.

(39:09):
Mistakes and this PART i found very funny because we
see the beefy guy begin to obey the, messages like
he leaves his apartment and he's got these cold dead
eyes as he's walking up the. Stairs but then you
also kind of hear that The David strathren looking guy
his voice in the, background still, talking but it's, quieter
saying like neutralize DID i say? Neutralized neutral? Eyes that's

(39:36):
part of the. Problem you need to be really firm
with these. Instructions but so he goes up and he
does an attack On moseley's. Headquarters. Right he kicks in
the door and he's clearly there on a deadly.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Mission, yeah and he takes out like a security guy
or an assistant an aid with one of the most
ridiculous martial arts MANEUVERS i have ever. Seen it is
such a weird attack THAT i have to if you
haven't seen, IT i have to explain it to. You,
so if you were to cross your arms on your
chest like you've been, mummified and then you're to lash

(40:10):
outward so that your arms close like a pair of,
scissors presumably around the victim's, head but do so so
that you are smacking them with the backs of both.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Hands it's a double.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Backhand, yeah but it's so weird because this can't possibly. Work,
Like i'm not a martial. Artist, AGAIN i should, stress
but this doesn't seem like it would be effective even
if you had cyborg arms of. Steel it's JUST i
just can't imagine how this would help generate any kind
of force or even that much. Surprise why do you need?

(40:43):
Surprise you're a cyborg with arms of?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Steel?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Oh who made you the expert on cyborg martial? Arts
WHAT i would just like to point out is that
he kills this dude with the arm crossing dance move
That Elizabeth berkley does In Show.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Girls, yeah, yeah it. Is it is like.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
THAT i, mean there are some like pro wrestling and
even martial arts moves that have like a double arm,
attack LIKE i guess the most one of the most
famous ones would be the the double ear clap double
ear slap rather where you, like you, know you slap
the ears with both aren't with both hands at the same. Time,
sure and there's like a worked version.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Of that as.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Well there's also the Dreaded mongolian, chop which is like
doing two twin karate chops to like the side of
the neck or the shoulders at the same. Time and
those make. Sense they're you, know they have impact to,
them and you can also, say, well they're you, know
they're especially with The mongolian. Chop it's a little theatrical
and maybe surprising to an. Opponent But i've never seen

(41:43):
anything like. This i've never seen The Paco special, before
AND i don't know If i'll ever see it. Again
but it's it's beautiful and its.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Absurdity do we know who did the martial arts choreography
in this?

Speaker 4 (41:53):
MOVIE i, don't we should we?

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Should, uh Maybe i'll look that. Up after the fact
that if it's, Interesting i'll report. Back but it's not
like the fight choreography is bad in this there's some fun,
stuff especially later in the picture we'll get to in a.
Bed it's just that this was creative to a degree
that is just. Unbelievable LIKE i applaud it, though you,
know because he could have just punched them and we
wouldn't be talking about. It he did this ridiculous thing

(42:18):
and it made the film more joyful, now of.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Course so he does that move to the, assistant and
then he moves on into the next, room and his
target is in the next. Room his target is the
old guy with the, Beard Arthur. Moseley AND i Believe
Arthur moseley is supposed to be, blind, right so he
doesn't recognize what he looks, like but he just senses
his presence and he, says you've come here to kill,
me haven't. You i'll but you'll never kill the WORK

(42:43):
i have. Begun well go ahead and do. It and
So Daniel green starts hearing the voice in his head
against a neutralize, neutralize and THEN i swear what it
looks like happens next is that he kicks him in
the groin to.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Death, yeah, like oh, yeah and that's. It but, yeah
you don't see him make any contact with. Him you
have like a like a point of view from the
old man of him. Attacking so It, yeah WHEN i watched,
It i'm, LIKE i, GUESS i guess he kicked him
in the, groin which is a weird, choice, ESPECIALLY i,
mean maybe maybe it's in line with someone who does
that weird hand choppy thing from the previous.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
SCENE i don't.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Know, now the movie makes clear later on that this
is not what. Happens it's supposed to be that he
just punched him really fast in a way that's like
not humanly, possible but that's not what it looks like at.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
All, Right, yeah so it's weird to watch for.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Sure but so Cyber lug escapes out the, window he
escapes into the, sewer and then it's not really a.
Sewer it's just like a hallway under the street with
a gauntlet of eternally sparking high voltage cables on each.
Side and, they at some, POINT i think the police
look down there and they're, like, no no human being
could get through. Here that's a. Clue and then we

(43:58):
see him escape in a futuristic which is just some
eighties car with extra stuff glued to the back of.
It it's got some pipes and bars on the on the. Hatch.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
YEAH i, mean if you can't afford the full free,
jack this is the way to.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Go.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah and then there's one SEQUENCE i really, loved which
is like he drives into a. Forest it's this pine
forest that has a sign in front of it that
says warning acid rain.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Ahead. YEAH i love.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
THIS i love this part as well because you, know
it brings back headlines from that time period about acid,
rain and then the idea it's some nice world to be.
Upbuilding you, know this is. Place this is a world
that's ravaged by pollution that mostly is trying to fight
and our hero has to drive through a bunch of acid. Rains,
sadly when he gets to the other, side we don't
have like that cartoon moment where the car has been
just melted away to. Nothingness, no but but you do smoking,

(44:45):
Right you do.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
See it coming Through at one point he's driving through
it and it's dripping through the ceiling of the into
the cabin and it's like burning the seat next to.
Him but he's. FINE i guess wonder why it could.
Be it's almost as if he's not destructible by the
normal means of harming a. Man but so, Anyway, yeah
the acid, rain AND i love also the idea that
acid rain would be a, constant localized hazard in this.

(45:09):
World so it's not like there are clouds that float
around and could rain down acid in multiple. Places it's just,
like here's one area where the road goes under acid,
rain and you can put a sign.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
THERE i, like it's very, folkloric, Right it's like The
Haunted woods or.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Something, Yes humbaba's seven acid. Terrors he takes them off
one at a time and rains them down on the.
Car oh and then we also we find out despite
the fact that it looked like the old Guy mosley
got killed by the, kick in fact he is still
alive and they wheel him out on a stretcher and
they take him to the. Hospital and then we get

(45:45):
to meet the bad. Guys we go into the belly
of The. Beast we're in some kind of evil bunker
where we see The Indoctrination voice, guy you, know Mister,
neutralize and he is hanging out with round sunglasses guy
who we mentioned, earlier and they're trying to figure out
what went wrong with the. Assassination why Was mosley not
killed like he was supposed to, Be and so they

(46:06):
start looking up digital files on the cyber lug and
we find out neutralized guy is Called. Cooper AND i
love these screens they pull. UP i attached a couple
of SHOTS i took of these. Screens Rob one is
just a picture Of Daniel green's face and it says
negative Characteristics Colon. Nunn but we also learn things about.

(46:31):
Him we learned that his name is his real name
Is Paco, querak that he's From Page, arizona that his
instructor was this Guy, cooper who is you, know the mister,
neutralized the guy talking in his, head that he was
trained for thirteen months At Fort. Bragg he was tested
On august. Twelfth and THEN i think they couldn't fit

(46:51):
the rest of the screens they had already cycled through
into this summary. Screen so what was supposed to, say
like efficiency maximum, maximum negative characteristics, none but instead they
just shorten that to efficiency Characteristics Colon. Nunn this is
not good, design. Folks people will be able to pause

(47:11):
the movie in the. Future, yes, Now Page.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Arizona that is worth noting because it was FILMED a
lot of it was filmed In, Paige. Arizona so if
we have any listeners out there who have been To
Page arizona or live In Page, arizona are you listening
to the show In, Paige arizona right?

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Now let us.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Know so eventually we Meet John saxon and he's the
big boss of the bad. Guys he Is Maximum suit
and he's supposed to be some kind of vicious corporate.
Overlord they're not really. SPECIFIC i think the issue is
that he's an, evil polluting corporate guy And moseley has
been saying pollution is bad and that can't be. Tolerated

(47:49):
so he has to kill, him. Right but his name
is Mister, Turner Francis, turner and he, says, okay we've
got to Find Paco quorak before THE fbi, does and
so he sends his guys off to do. That, now
now we cut back To paco on his journey through
the desert and one of the, things so there's a
number of. Things he's cruising along The Desert highway in the.

(48:12):
Dark we've seen that he's been through the acid rain.
Area the acid rain leaked through the ceiling and was
burning the inside of the. Car but also we see
in his car he has A tv embedded in the.
Dashboard it's sort of down near the gear, shift which
is just amazing future car. Design are They are they

(48:33):
doing that? Now are they making cars that have A
tv in the? Dashboard surely if they, are it's closer
to the windshield at.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Least, YEAH i think it's at least higher. UP i
don't have, one but you see. Him you see cars
around that have some sort of enormous screen. THERE i
guess it has like it's maybe supposed to have a
bunch of road data on. There But i'm BUT i don't.
Know it looks like A tv to.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Me sure you can hack it to Watch hands Of
steel on it while you're supposed to be. DRIVING i,
mean driving's. Boring you, know you gotta have something to
pay attention to while you're doing. IT, psa keep your
eyes on the, road, folks, Dude.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah don't do not watch movies while.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Driving at least do.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Not but then we get the car trading SCENE i
already mentioned earlier with the funny musical transition out of.
It he trades, CARS i think because he's trying to
throw the people tracking him off the trail and So.
Paco then he discards the second car that he got
and he like drives it off a cliff and then
just starts hoofing it through the. Desert he's just walking

(49:34):
through the bad lands and eventually comes upon a highway
motel that's gonna be sort of the home base for
the rest of the. Movie it's called The Champion's. Oasis
as soon as he goes, inside he notices that it
is a. Mess there are beer bottles all over the.
Place there is rotten bacon on the counter with earwigs
crawling around on, it which was a good. Touch AND

(49:57):
i noticed something else about this. Place it's similar to
the interiors In Terry gilliam's dystopian Movie, brazil in that
there are just ducks, everywhere you, know snaking from wall
to ceiling in every direction for no apparent. Reason THOUGH
i think In brazil like, that there's supposed to be
some satirical value to that set choice it like it

(50:18):
like in a way it symbolizes that this is a
society that is extremely, complicated but nobody knows how anything
works or why anything is happening the way it is
in this, movie it just seems to be, like let's
make this roadside bar look a little more.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Futuristic, yeah just throwing some. Ducts you can get some
ducts at your local hardware, store but and it'll look
like the. Future and the thing is this is accurate
because it kind of foretells the office design choice that
would become fashionable in the decades to, follow where instead
of having you, know the white tiles covering up your duct,

(50:53):
work you have exposed duck work so you can just
WHICH i. MEAN i, Like i've been in a couple
of offices now that have that design and it is
kind of neat to stare up and. Wonder. Huh, OKAY
i see how all the air conditioning. CONNECTS i see
some weird you, know keys and knobs and, whatnot and
that ARE i guess supposed to be accessed by. Professionals

(51:15):
so in a, way, yeah, yeah this this design is.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Accurate Champions oasis has original. Brickwork yeah, no it actually, doesn't,
though it's all like wood. Paneling what do you call,
that like really thin wood paneling that goes over the.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Walls oh, yeah, yeah it does look like wood. Paneling
it looks it does look just authentically, gross like they
found an actual gross bar and they just threw up
some ducts and started.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Shooting oh another, THING i took a screen capture of
this BECAUSE i noticed on the inside of the door
leading into the champion's oasis Is. Garfield it's just a
poster Of. Garfield it says have a nice, Day So
garfield exists in this film's reality. CANON i like. That,
also really funny detail was the full exchange that is

(52:02):
the very first meeting of the two main characters of this.
Movie Janet agrin walks out As paco comes into the,
place and she, says CAN i help? You he, Says
i'm looking for a place to. Stay she, says come
in you ever arm? Wrestle he says, No.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Well because we find out that is what this community lives.
For they are all about the arm. Wrestling it's the only,
institution aside from, drinking that is holding everyone.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Together that's, Right this humble desert motel is a sort
of an innocent oasis of arm wrestling in this otherwise
messed up. World, now of, course they start arguing over
whether he can stay there at the hotel because does
he have. Money, no he. DOESN'T i. Think he says
he can do, work but she says something cynical about,
that and then we cut to some stuff the bad

(52:55):
guys are. Doing so the bad guys go and they
end up intimidating This si WHO i think helped create
cyborgs and there and they're threatening his. Work he's, like
do whatever you want to. Me you, can't you, know
you won't get information out of me about how to
catch this cyborg because you're trying to use cyborgs for.
Evil and they're, like, well what IF i do? This

(53:16):
and they just start smashing his stuff in his lab
and he's, like, no my precious. Work so he gives
them a. Clue he reveals that maybe the reason That
paco did not complete his mission is that he malfunctioned
because of memories of his, past his childhood In, arizona
and they're, like, oh, great that's what we, need and

(53:36):
then they shoot. Him and then it's a double double
cross And sunglasses guy Shoots, cooper the main guy who
did the indoctrination.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yeah which which in a way works as a nice
little twist in the. Film it kind of drives home
that Ultimately turner is so evil that he's just that everybody's,
disposable you, know even the guy that seems to be
his second in command here or at least his main
guy on the, case and he'll do him in as.
Well but out of. FILM i suspect that these scenes

(54:06):
were shot later in the production After Claudio cassinelli had.
Died and you, know so, again this is that situation
Where Claudio, Cassinelli i'm, guessing was supposed to be central
here and more tied into the ending of the, film
but since he died in that tragic, crash they had
to write and film around.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
THAT i think that makes. Sense now we go back
To paco And, linda the manager of the, oasis and
THERE i guess they've already resolved whatever their original conflict,
was because he's, like it's, okay he's staying there, now

(54:47):
and he's, like why did you let me? Stay and
she gives some backstories she, goes who, knows maybe the
memory of the girl who showed up afraid and broke
thirteen years, ago lost in nowhere to, stay or maybe
it's because there's a whole lot of wood out there
that needs. Chopping so AND i guess this is the implication, is,
look this guy's got big muscly. Arms he can be

(55:08):
put to good use chopping. Wood and he brings up
the question do people still use? WOOD i didn't know
people still used? Wood and she says, yes especially since
the the ecological movement led By Reverend. Moseley And i'm
very confused. Here so it seems that the anti pollution
guy is causing people to burn more.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Wood, yeah it. Does it does seem. WEIRD i guess
they were burning worse things than.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Wood stop heating your house by burning.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Tires, Yeah but then also there's a questions like what
wood are you about to send him out to chop
in the middle Of, arizona in no Age, arizona.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
No trees anywhere. Around and then when we see, it the,
woodpile by the, way it just looks like a giant
pile of garbage there, is there's tires and stuff in.
It it doesn't seem to be primarily made of, wood
though when he's done with the, job we do see
it it is mostly. Wood but but of course here's
another chance For paco to take his shirt off and
get to, work and later we see that he finishes

(56:05):
the whole week's work in a single, day so it's
Like hercules and The, stables you, know it, Is, yeah
And janet is. Astonished she's, like, wow what a. Man
and then we also Get John saxon meeting with With
sunglasses guy and they talk about this euro hit man
that they're going to, hire Who John saxon says is.

(56:26):
Infallible they tell, ME i think his name is supposed
to Be Peter, howell but it always sounded Like Peter.
Hollow and this Is Claudio. Cassanelli, yes this is, it
this is. Him then there's some. Scenes there's a whole
b plot about these agents at THE fbi and scientists
trying to figure out what was the weapon that was
used to Attack. Moseley so they're like asking him about

(56:48):
what it. Was he's, like it was small but very
hard and there and they don't know what that could.
Be and they've got like a computer simulation THAT i
think scanned his wound so they can determine what type
of object made.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
It, yeah it's, Weird, yeah that he hit him with
something small but very, Hard and of course we were
going to find it.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Out.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Increasingly what happened was, is, yeah that he had these
flashes of his past and that he pulled the killing.
Blow he didn't like put his full might into. It
So i'm, like did he punch him with like just
a thumb or something? Like maybe what accounts for?

Speaker 3 (57:22):
This, well, anyway you knew we were going to get
to some arm wrestling, Eventually so the first of a
couple of arm wrestling sequences is coming. Up this happens
because some some rough truck boys come into the desert,
oasis The champion's, oasis and they start being aggressive and
threatening With linda And, paco and of course this leads
to a confrontation Because paco is already protective of of

(57:45):
Of linda in her, place and this this leads to
an arm wrestling. Challenge the leader of these bad truck
guys Is, raoul who is played By George. Eastman And
raoul is just constantly talking.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Trash, yeah he's just he's just snarling and, leering like
he's taller than everybody and so he's he's kind of
just looming over everyone and just.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Just he's just like a.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Wolf, yeah he's, wonderful thoroughly, menacing, presence like if he
were actually in a RESTAURANT i was, IN i would.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Leave, yeah he has some pretty fun lines. Too there's
one part where he, says anyone know this piece of rat?

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Dirt so it leads to an arm wrestling challenge that
he like Insults, paco and Then paco's, Like i'll show
you what cyborgs are made, Of and so they all
start making bets on who's gonna win the arm. Wrestling they,
Say raoul's gonna wipe the floor with this, bum But
linda bets a thousand dollars On paco to, win and

(58:45):
of Course paco does, win right because he's Got HE'S
i don't, know it seems kind of not fair actually
that he's like a machine And George eastman is just a.
Human BUT i don't, know maybe maybe Since George eastman's
like provoked him into, it it's not.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Cheating eastman's character does just about everything imaginable to make
you not root for, Him so, yeah it's easy to
forgive the cyborg cheat.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Here, Yeah but then of course a big fight breaks
out After paco. Wins everybody starts fighting And paco has
to has to beat up all the bad, truckers and
THEN i realized, That, okay this is Actually terminator Meets.
Roadhouse did you think about?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
That, yeah without the high minded bouncer philosophy that Makes
roadhouse so, Great but, yeah it is Very this setting
is very, roadhouse and you get a roadhouse style.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Slobber.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Knocker oh BUT i don't. Know at the end of the,
movie there's some philosophizing that's very much on the level
of pain don't.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Hurt, yeah, yeah that's.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
True now by this, Point linda is obviously falling in
love With. Musselborg he's just walking around with his shirt
off all the, time and she's, like, wow you must
work out a. Lot he goes eh a. Little and
they're setting things up for another big arm wrestling showdown
because this time he's got to go up against the
real Champ, blanco who is like undefeated arm wrestling, dude

(01:00:10):
and it's going to be in a rattle snake, match
which maybe we can explain the situation there in a.
Minute But raoul of course tries to cheat here by
Luring paco out into the desert to do a good.
Deed they say, like, oh some children are trapped in
a crashed, car and Then paco goes down to try
to rescue, them but it's a trap By raoul and his,

(01:00:32):
buddy and they drag him on a tow truck and
beat him up and leave him for dead in the.
Desert but, he of course is a muscle, cyborg and
so he survives and escapes and makes it back in
time for the big.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Match, yeah despite having been beaten with metal, Pipes, yeah
and left for dead in the. Desert he shows up
Like raoul is already already. Boasting he's, like, OH i,
GUESS i guess you're a beefy. Man he's too he's
too chicken to. Show and then he shows and when
we get this fabulous arm wrestling scene Between paco And,

(01:01:06):
blanco and it's it's just so it is over the.
Top it's more over the top THAN i imagine anything
in the movie over the top because again rattlesnakes are.
Involved it's a rattlesnake, match and they have this this.
Mechanism they have like these little enclosures for, rattlesnakes like
see through plastic or plexiglass or something on either. Side

(01:01:28):
and then there's like a, cuff a locking, cuff so
if you force your opponent's hand all the way down their,
hand their wrist will be locked in this, cuff and
that will also open the cage for the, rattlesnake and
the rattlesnake will come out and bite, you OR i
mean it will bite your. Opponent so it's not just
as simple as like there's a there's a basket of

(01:01:49):
rattlesnakes on either. Side, no there's like this whole elaborate.
Mechanism they put a lot of thought into making the
best possible high stakes rattlesnake arm wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Competition which of the ive writers streamed this?

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
UP i think all of? THEM i.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
THINK i think that's why it's so elaborate that it's
almost like, no, no, no, no, no, no you can't just have
a basket of, rattlesnakes because we're gonna want real. Rattlesnakes
you're gonna we're gonna need an. Enclosure no, no, no
how are you gonna trigger the rattlesnakes to come? Out,
well how's the arm gonna be held? There so all
these ideas came together and they kept they kept all of.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Them this is the convoluted product Of rattlesnake arm wrestling
group think.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Yes but it's a terrific.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
SCENE i MEAN i love a good arm wrestling, sequence
and you see him in like the in a lot
of a lot of, films like there's one In The.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Fly. Uh, yeah it's just a primal test of.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Strength now, AFTERWARDS i, guess even Though paco, wins he's
sort OF i think injured in what's going on OR
i don't know if he's injured by what What George
eastman did to him earlier or in the in the arm.
Wrestling but then we get a scene just straight out a.
Terminator it's just like a copied shot where his arm
is open and he's working on the machinery underneath the

(01:02:55):
skin which used to metal. Stuff clear terminator. Moment, yeah
and this is just the first scene in the MOVIE
i think where it's like fully, confirmed like oh, this,
yeah he's definitely a real. CYBORG i, MEAN i guess
characters have been talking about, it but now you see
the machine underneath. Him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Oh another important note about the Big rattlesnake arm wrestling
event is that he, wins he Gets blanco's wrist into the,
cuff the snake comes out to Bite, blanco but then
at the last, second our cyborg hero comes in with
the karate chop and cuts the head off of The,
rattlesnake Saves, blanco saves. Him that'll become important later.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
On, well but HERE i guess we're into the full
the exposition backstory cyborg reveal part of the. Movie so
simultaneously we're cutting back and forth between the police figuring
out what's going. On one of, them WHO'S i believed
a like a police forensic scientist named Doctor, peckinpah come,

(01:03:53):
on folks named doctor peck And, Paw who's, LIKE i
think we know what could have caused the uns To
Reverend moseley a cyborg fist and they show it on
the computer screen where it's a, fist but they're, like
but no fist is capable of providing that amount of.
Strength and then Also paco just directly reveals his backstory To.

(01:04:15):
Linda they have a tender romance where he's, like you,
know he's, LIKE i was once a. SOMETHING i don't,
know he was a soldier or something like, that and
THEN i REMEMBER i was in a crash and THEN
i awoke In Reverend moseley's room AND i was supposed
to kill, him but something stopped, me AND i REALIZED

(01:04:37):
i couldn't be just A. BORG i had to be something.
More and he, escapes and of course they talk about.
Love he's, like how can you love me knowing THAT
i am More borg than? Man and she's, LIKE i
care for, You, paco and they kiss and it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Beautiful it's, like, like how can you love me knowing
THAT i am only thirty percent? Man and she's, LIKE
i would love you if you were only twenty eight percent.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
MAN i GUESS i got it wrong IF i said
he's not More borg than, man because the org is
how can you love me Knowing i'm more cyb Than?
Org but, anyway she is going to she loves, him
and she's going to help him escape to The mexican
border later tonight because they know he's being hunted by

(01:05:19):
both THE, fbi AND i guess do they know he's
also being hunted By John saxon's. PEOPLE i think so.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Yeah, WELL i mean he's been dodging people the whole.
Time he has to know that his handlers are coming after, him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Right So John Saxon's henchman track him down with the
help of Treacherous George, eastman who has who has given
away his, location and so they got guns and helicopters
and surveillance all around The champion's. Oasis. Uh and then
we get a great scene where there are like some
decoys who show up at the hotel who presumably are

(01:05:53):
just trying to get a motel, room but instead it
turns out there they are part of this nefarious. Plot
and just a note on the future fashion, here most
of the fashion in this movie is not anything different
than like what YOU i, Mean, like they don't have
like weird you, know back to the future too style futuristic.
Clothing it's just people wearing like flannel and jeans and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Stuff, yeah it's the hard times version of the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Future for some. Reason this one couple who shows up
on a, motorcycle they are like back to the future
too style, Stuff like so one is wearing football pads
as a vest and the other is wearing see through plastic,
shorts like just wearing like two ziplock bags for.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Pants and the great thing about the female here that's
wearing the ziplock bags for pants is it's quickly. Revealed
it's a trap and she is a killer cyborg as.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
Well it is cyborg versus, cyborg and this is this
fight scenems pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Great, yeah it's it's got it's not that, long but
it's it's in a it's in a tight. Spot it's
in this hotel. Room we quickly see that she like she's,
shot but then she up. Again she's got cyborg, damage
she's got killer cyborg. Nails there's a there's a fun
bit of fight, choreography and it ends with. Him he
ends up putting the rival cyborg in a full nelson

(01:07:12):
and then going from a full nelson to a full head.
Rip just twist the head off and we get that
wonderful moment that you see in so many of these these,
films the films of this, caliber where the head falls
onto the floor and then you have that effect where
someone has like a false floor around their. Necks so
you get that that shot of the decapitated head.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Talking It's Ian holman.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Alien, yeah, yeah except as she except the head is
going they will destroy.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
You, yeah that's that's pretty much the. Voice.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Yeah oh. Yeah and ALSO i love how when she first,
announces she first starts trying to kill. Him so she's
got like these killer metal nails that she's stabbing in,
with and she, SAYS i am the perfect, cyborg AND
i have been sent here to kill a. Trader which
it sounds like she's taken it too. PERSONAL i thought
cyborgs were just supposed to to do their. Mission but

(01:08:01):
she does not sound like she is dispassionately executing. Programming
she's she's taken it. Personal she's like really mad at this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Guy, WELL i think one of the things to keep
in mind is that its early days with, cyborgs as
they reveal more later in the. Picture and he's the,
best even though he's, flawed even though his humanity is
leeching back in like he's the. Best so even though
he's very cold at the, BEGINNING i guess this other
cyborg is who's still like the second best, cyborg the

(01:08:29):
best thing you could possibly send in to try and kill.
Him you, know she's not. Perfect she's clearly got too
much human emotion wrapped up in this whole killing the opposition.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Right his profile says negative, characteristics, none her says negative
characteristics taking it too personal. Exactly but from here it
basically just goes on into a very long action chase
sequence that's Got John sackson's dudes chasing and shooting After
linda And Buddy borg there being pursued mercilessly by The.

(01:09:02):
Saxonites and oh and there's a great part where while
they're running around from trying to escape, Them blanco shows,
up the other you, know the arm wrestling, champ and
he shows. Up he's a really stand up. Guy he
just like drives a truck in to help them get.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Away, yeah he ends up giving his life to save
our hero in this, Film so that's that's pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Yeah, meantime, meanwhile you've got sunglasses. Guy and then ULTIMATELY
i Think saxon gets in on this, too using shotguns
to fire. Rockets like they take a rocket, grenade rocket
propel grenade or something and like stick it in the
front of the shotgun and then a lot use the
shotgun to fire, it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Which which ultimately it looks it looks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Good i'm just the part of me was, wondering like
what that just looks like you stuck like a nerf
in the. Shotgun but on the other, hand he does
it looks. GOOD i still bought it completely in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Film, now When blanco gets blown, up you think That
linda has also been, killed but then it turns out
that she. Survived and So musselborg is very upset because
he had discovered what love, was but now the one
person he loved is, dead and so he goes into

(01:10:11):
a rage and the soldiers are coming after. Him they
come after. Him he goes into this old, factory it's
like some underground, stuff and they come after him with
a laser and he kills all of the soldiers who
are coming after, him and Then John saxon comes in
after him, personally, which, yeah that really seems like something
that this corporate jerk would. Do i'm going to physically
personally go in there to shoot at the Guy i'm

(01:10:33):
trying to, get but he picks up the laser and
is trying to Shoot, paco But, paco of, course bests,
him and then he Grabs John saxon and he's like
holding him by the neck and he, says you thought
you could own me by controlling my. Brain but what
people like you don't realize is that you don't own
a man until you control his. Heart and then he

(01:10:55):
literally pulls Out John saxon's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Heart, yeah it's a quality. Kill, yeah it seems like
there are some other ones. Too he's doing a lot
of head crushing were against the minions before he finally
gets To John. Saxon but, yeah then he Finishes John
saxon off with a heart Rep.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Oh and then we get the Reveal linda is, alive
and it's a very love conquers all type. Ending she's,
like he's in the, factory running around with a gun
outside shooting at the, police like just in a. Rage you.
Know he's in a violent downward spiral because he Thinks
linda has been. Killed but then she reveals that she's,
alive and she comes in to talk him, down and he's,

(01:11:33):
like they won't let me, live and she's, like, yes they.
Will she, says, quote they know that you were normal
before you ended up in that, laboratory and she, says
and you saved the best part of, you the.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Soul.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Yeah, yeah the soul managed to bleede its way back
into the whole cyborg equation and turned to the evil
scheme on its.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Head but THEN i would, say so it is mostly
a love conquers all, ending except in the very last
few seconds there's it suddenly gets kind of, ambiguous AND
i don't know what to make of. It So paco
peels back part of his head and reveals something underneath.
THERE i couldn't tell quite what it, was like some

(01:12:16):
piece of metal in his head is, glinting and and he's,
like but is it a? Soul and then she's, like
and then it just cuts to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Music.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Yeah, well and also there's some some text on the
screen that says it was a day in our near
future the era of the cyborg had. Begun the tense
in this sentence is really. Confusing but and it also
feels a little bit Like poocy dyed on his returning
to his home. Planet. Right, yeah it just kind of

(01:12:46):
comes out of. Nowhere but BUT i liked it, Nonetheless so.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Like did did they get to go off and like
have a nice peaceful life together after?

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
This? Ah? Sure why? Not?

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Oh, OKAY i mean maybe it Was, utah don't placate,
me but, NO i like TO i like to imagine
that they settled In, arizona maybe maybe right there in Page,
arizona and you, know lived. Happily ever After mosley brings
around and you, know brings about better environmental.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Policies for the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
World but it is the age of the, cyborg so
MAYBE i don't. Know the cyborgs are an important part
of bringing about a more environmentally sound, future maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
An all cyborg powered.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Future, YEAH i mean maybe if you're only thirty percent,
organics you end up caring more about those.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Organics you're, like, Look i've.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Already lost seventy percent of me to. Machine i've only
got thirty percent, left So i'm going to be one
hundred percent. Environmentalist that's.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Right the cybe is not. Everything you. Know your org is.
Precious be good to your.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Org oh by the, way that the bridge where we
have the big showdown at that bridge Is Navajo bridge
In Grand Canyon National. Park in the, film we see
just a single bridge that was built in nineteen twenty.
Nine since the filming this, movie a second bridge was
built right alongside it in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Five the old.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Bridge is still, there though it's open for pedestrian and equestrian.
Use so if you find yourself in this part Of,
arizona check it. Out you can apparently walk out there
on the on the bridge where the big showdown takes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
PLACE i do love a good pedestrian.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Bridge, YEAH i, mean and it's a gorgeous bridge That
it's one of the THINGS i enjoyed a lot about this.
Movie BUT i did really enjoy getting to see The arizona,
countryside even if the film quality is not, perfect especially
SINCE i had trouble finding this one and ended up
watching one of there's several different rips of it on,
YouTube SO i ended up just picking the one that

(01:14:41):
looked like it had the best film. Quality it looks
like it has been streaming On Amazon prime in the,
past but it was marked currently unavailable right, now SO
i had to make do with.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
This that title is hands Of. STEEL i know at
least a couple times in here we said something like
arms of steel or.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
IDEAL i wrote arms of steel at once and had
to go back and correct, it but probably said it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Anyway vendetta Deld Futuro vengeance The.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Future, NOW i know you had some thoughts about the
cyborg acting in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
This oh, yeah there was something that just popped up
a few times in this. MOVIE i can't remember what
the specific instances, were but, uh it's it's a thing
you see every now and the now and again in
SOME b. Movies, ESPECIALLY i feel Like i've noticed it
in Some ITALIAN b movies is actors delivering their lines
literally without. Acting and this is different from bad. Acting you,

(01:15:30):
know bad acting is when a person attempts to inhabit
a character and does a bad. Job it's you, know
it's a poor, reading or it is, implausible not appropriate
for the, scene something like. That, instead this is a
phenomenon where the line delivery is literally just a. Delivery
it's like reading a sequence of words out loud off a.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
PAGE M, YEAH i guess sometimes that's probably a product of. Dubbing,
OH i think.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Absolutely it could be. THAT i don't remember what specifically
had in, mind BUT i know there were a few
of those in here WHEN i was watching.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
It but then, again if one character is a cyborg
and therefore you, know seventy percent, machine and then a
certain kind of a cold read need to kind of makes.
Sense and then if another character is played By John,
saxon who often has that kind of stern delivery, anyway you,
know regardless if he's the villain in a cyborg film
or if He's nancy's dad In nightmare On Elm, street

(01:16:23):
you know you're only going to get a certain level
of energy From, saxon intense but medium.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Energy, yeah, yeah, YEAH i see what you're. SAYING i
Mean saxon was always trying to play it, cool which
is dangerous for an. Actor like you can have a
cool persona as an, actor but if you try to
be too, cool you limit yourself from you, know the
full range of emotion you could display on. Screen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Yeah, Meanwhile George eastman was not trying to play it,
cool at least in the picture and most Pictures i've seen,
him and he's he's basically trying to be a cartoon
wolf out of A Looney tunes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Cartoon He's jim carries the mask without. Animation, yeah pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Much all, Right well we're going to go ahead and
close this one out. Again as of this, RECORDING i
don't know of a good place to go and stream
this aside from finding you, know rips of, It but
there have been some editions that have come out ON dvd,
before so you might be able to rent it or
pick up a physical.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Copy but if.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
You are interested in the soundtrack, again go To russblade
dot band camp dot com because you can definitely listen
to the whole thing there by yourself a digital copy
or get that precious silver. Vinyl AND i looked and.
Looked it appears that a number they have a number
of different releases from that from that record. Label that's
seemed really. INTERESTING i was listening to a few tracks

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here and, there but also Multiple goblin. Releases and if
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time for us to discuss weird pictures like, This.

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So come on and cut loose at the picture.

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