Weirdhouse Cinema: The Ship of Monsters

Are you ready for a 1960 Mexican sci-fi comedy involving multiple alien monsters, space vampires, interplanetary politics and several música norteña songs? Also a robot falls in love with a jukebox. Rob and Joe discuss it all in this episode of Weirdhouse Cinema.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind production of My
Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is
Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick and Rob. I am
so thrilled to be talking about the movie that we've
selected for today. La Nave de los Monstros or The

(00:24):
Ship of Monsters, an astoundingly, shockingly, devastatingly awesome Mexican film
from nineteen sixty in the exquisite genre of science fiction, horror,
romantic comedy, musical. Uh. This is a movie about women
from the planet Venus who are roaming deep space on
a quest for the hunkiest aliens in the galaxy, and

(00:48):
skipped from planet to planet collecting reptile cyclops hunks, kissy
faced brain mutant hunks, fang head skeleton hunks, until they
finally meet the hunkiest hunk of all, a Rascal writer
of the Chihuahua Planes, played by the incomparable Lalo Gonzales
a k A. L. P. Porro. More on him later.

(01:08):
This movie is so much fun. Yeah, this was a
real pleasant surprise when you when you brought this this
title to to our attention. I I did like some
preliminary research I looked it up in the Psycotronic Video
Guide and I was like, all right, it's listed there.
It sounds that sounds like like, uh like it might
be good. So I went into it expecting there to
be something awesome about it, you know, i'd find a

(01:30):
monster I liked or a performance I liked. I was
also expecting a certain amount of dead space in there
is sometimes the case with films from this time period
of this caliber. But this one is just wall to
wall excellence. Yes, totally. They're not a dull moment. I mean,
we've we've watched some sci fi horror movies from the
fifties that, uh, you know, they might have a really fun,

(01:51):
goofy looking monster, or they might have elements that work
really well, not of this Earth comes to mind. But
then there will be other moments that are kind of
some dead space. Yeah, we're kind of dull, square log dude,
it's just standing around delivering dry dialogue. This movie has
essentially none of that. It's all killer, no filler exactly.

(02:12):
Um oh man, yeah, this this one's this one is great.
Would this count as our first science fiction horror, romantic
comedy musical, Yes, it definitely would. Um. And it I
guess you could. You could rank it as one of
our first true musical sorts, as close to a true
musical as we've covered. Certainly, some of the movies we've
looked at have complete songs within them, but this one

(02:33):
has multiple musical numbers. I mean they're not I mean
they're they're very they're definitely lip syncd um there. There's
there's maybe only a limited amount of dance choreography going on,
but still there's enough music in this film that it
feels like a musical. Oh no, I would defend the
dance sequences. There's one dance scene in this movie that

(02:53):
is just divine. It's the one later on where Lalo
Gonzalez is dancing and singing to the to the Vampire Queen.
Spoiler well, we'll get to some twists about this later on.
But he's also trying to steal her, like her technology,
her space weapon, and so they're dancing around and she's
making eyes at him, and he's singing a song about
the seasons. Yeah true, okay, but that that felt also

(03:16):
very organic. It felt like organic dancing. They just came
out of the music in the moment. Yeah, So of course,
folks out there. You know, we love our unlikely genre
mash ups. We've talked about, uh, supernatural wrestling movie, supernatural
biker movies, but this has got to be one of
the biggest, like you know, suicide soft drink kind of

(03:37):
mashups of all time. It's got really almost every movie
genre in the same thing. I think it is most
often referred to as a science fiction comedy, but it's
also definitely got horror elements. Like some of the things
about the monsters in this movie gets surprisingly dark in
a way that you would not expect for a light comedy,
and the musical numbers are just just wonderful. Yeah, Like

(04:00):
when we say they're alien monsters and their hunks or males,
you might think of, um, what's what's that movie at
the head Jeff Goldblum in it where they were all
h alien hunks. Uh? Oh is that Earth girls are easy? Yeah,
you might be thinking of Earth girls are easy, But no,
these are entirely non human aliens that they some of
them are not even remotely human. So just go ahead

(04:22):
and um and exercise that image from your mind. This
movie might be called Earth males or liars, but lovable
liars But so anyway, having read about this movie before
I watched it, I expected the plot to be bonkers,
which it absolutely is. It is just like Goober's Inside Out.
This this movie will give you hard boiled egg guys.

(04:43):
But also the musical numbers are are charming, The comedy
scenes are really funny. It just works on almost every level.
It pretty much rules. Yeah. Yeah, the humor I found
held up pretty well. I was laughing at at some
of the intentional humor in this In this picture, I
also have to throw in that, oh man, I love

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a good movie poster, and if you look around for
movie posters for this film, you'll find some kind of
boring images. But there's also a terrific image of the
sort of lizards cyclops monster way bigger in the poster
than than he is in the in the in the film,
and he's holding a woman in one hand like palm

(05:23):
like a baseball, and it's got this wonderful orange and
red look going on. Is absolutely beautiful, And in fact,
I showed this to my wife and she has agreed
that if we can find this, we are going to
put it on a wall in our house. It's just
that lovely. Godspeed on your quest. I hope you do
find it. And now you've been having trouble, right, it
seems like merch for this movie is rather scarce on

(05:46):
the ground. Yeah, yeah, so far, all I've seen is
somebody in Italy selling, uh, this poster on eBay. So
I'm going to continue to look around a little bit.
Now I think this poster is the Italian poster for
the movie, right, because it's the title a little bit different.
It's La Nave del monstery. Yes, that would be a
yeah that now I think I've Yeah, I think I've

(06:06):
also seen maybe the Italian DVD has this art on it. Um, so, yes,
I highly recommend looking this up. It's just gorgeous. Maybe
we can hit a little montage of some audio from
the film sabrists Pigs? Is that looks our? Well? I

(07:02):
hope that conveyed at least some of the magic of
this of this this film, because there's a lot visually
going on here. Are Are you ready to talk about
some of the people involved. Yeah, let's get into it, okay.
So the director of this movie was named Rogalio A Gonzalez,
and I was looking around for for good biographical info
about him. I couldn't find much in English, but I

(07:23):
found a biography in Spanish on the website of the
National Autonomous University of Mexico website, and I had to
run this through Google Translate. So I hope nothing significant
is getting lost, but just to summarize some of the
stuff that's covered in there. Gonzalez was a Mexican actor, director,
radio host, radio producer, film producer, and screenwriter who worked

(07:46):
throughout the Golden age of Mexican cinema. He was born
on January seven, nineteen two, in Monterey, Nuevo Leon as
Antonio Rogalio Gonzalez Villa Real, and apparently in his younger years,
Gonzalez was preparing for a career in medicine, but at
some point he got that movie bug. He quit his

(08:07):
studies and he went into the film industry, first as
an actor and a screenwriter in the forties and then
as a director beginning in the fifties. And he directed
a ton of movies in the fifties through the early eighties,
though I don't think I have seen any of them
other than this one. Now, yeah, I agree, I don't
think I've seen anything on this list, though there's some
interesting looking titles. I noticed that his last picture in

(08:30):
eighty three was Mexico two thousand, some sort of a
sci fi political commentary satire sort of a thing. Yeah,
and there was one title of his I came across
the I don't remember if he wrote this one and directed.
It was called like the Skeleton of Mrs So and So.
I don't know, Mrs Morales. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, And um,

(08:51):
I've also heard the Conquistador de la Luna is also
supposed to be rather weird. Oh, Conqueror of the Moon. Yeah, Actually,
Michael Weldon mentions that one. Yeah, he mentions that has
been stand out weird as well. I was trying to
find a copy of this that could be watched the
The only thing I can find is it's on a
DVD that you can get somewhere that I think does

(09:11):
not have dubbing or English subtitles as far as I
can tell. So, but I don't know. It looks so
visually strange that it might be worth it. Even if
you don't speak Spanish, you can probably kind of suess
out the plot. But anyway, a little more about Gonzalez's
Regalio Gonzalez's biography. They're actually two major Gonzalez is in
this movie, but Rogalio Gonzalez, the director. He was also

(09:32):
a union leader in the Director's Division of the Mexican
Union of Cinema Production Workers, and he passed away due
to a tragic highway accident in nineteen eighty four. But
as for personal descriptions of his sort of you know,
his his presence and personality. The website I mentioned cites
a description of Gonzalez from a magazine called Sinevos in

(09:55):
the year nineteen forty nine. This would have been before
he started directing, back when he was just an actor
and a writer. Um. But the description through translation goes
like this, he has a clear intelligence and his sentences
are logical and precise, despite the passion he puts into them.
He is tall, with blue eyes, then almost transparent. Sometimes

(10:18):
he hunches over, as if overwhelmed by excessive work, since
he writes at all hours, sometimes living exclusively at night. Now,
this profile was written many years before he made Ship
of Monsters. Ship of Monsters came out in nineteen sixty. Again,
I think this was in nine, but I'd like to
imagine that it was this nocturnal consciousness that birthed the

(10:40):
physical forms of the eye popping monsters in this movie,
the Furry Spider Beetle, the irritable Lizard Cyclops, the Kissy
Face Brain Mutant, and and the wonderful Bone Boy. So,
like I said, I have not seen any of Gonzalez's
other movies, but given this, he's got a real talent
for a extremely visually charming, tight well paced cinema. Yes. Absolutely. Uh.

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Now a quick note about the the individuals with writing
credits on this film. First of all, the story credit
goes to Jose Maria Fernandez Unsan, who lived one through
two thousand and three, an Argentinian film director, screenwriter, and
playwright who was exiled to Mexico after the overthrow of

(11:26):
Jan Pron. This was this was because uns had connections
to Eva Paron, so very prolific. He has I think
a hundred and twenty two writing credits on IMDb. But
then adaptation writing credit goes to Alfredo Varella, who lived
nineteen twelve through nine six. Now, this is a guy
who wrote various westerns um and now according to IMDb,

(11:49):
this is definitely the Mexican born Alfredo Farrella, but there's
also an Argentinian novelist and communist journalist named Alfredo Farrella
who lived at the same time, like with birth and
death dates just like two years off. So I was
a little confused by that at first. I was trying
to figure out could this be given the the the
Argentina connection here, but it seems to be two different people. Okay,

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Now coming to the cast. Uh, this movie again just
has a wonderful cast, and we should start with the
the lead actor, you Lalio Gonzalez also known as Lalo Gonzalas,
also known by the nickname El Piporo, And I was
trying to look it up. What does that really mean?
I I don't know if it means something different in
the context of his nickname. But the only thing I

(12:32):
could really find is a translation is that this word
means bassoon ist, like the player of a bassoon. I'm
not sure what to make of that. But Lalo Gonzalez
was a musician. He was widely known as a comic,
actor and a singer. Yeah, Gonzalez was a musician, comedian, actor, director,
and producer. And in this film, yeah, he's playing this
Piporo character, a kind of stereotypical North Mexican rancher. Uh

(12:57):
This was an immensely popular character. It was central to
uh To, to his his musical identity, and it helped
make him the face of Musico Nortonia during the Golden
Age of Mexican cinema. Now, Musico Nortonia is the regional
music of northern Mexico. That's that's essentially what it means. Traditionalized,

(13:19):
traditionally utilizing the accordion, the the the bajo sexto guitar
uh and it apparently emerged in the nineteenth century out
of elements of traditional Mexican music, along with like German,
Austrian and Czech folk music, very popular in Northern Mexico
and also among many Mexican Americans. So within this genre

(13:42):
and within Mexican cinema all this period, Uh Piporo here
Gonzalez is a legend. I think it's important to to
to realize, like this is the this is a film
that is showcasing somebody that was already at or near
the peak of their their their initial popularity. Though this
is a guy that would remain important throughout his life

(14:03):
right and so as we're saying so much about this
movie is great, but a lot of it really rests
on the incredible star power of Lolo Gonzalez. He he
is a I would say like he has a once
in a generation kind of star presence. His screen charisma
is overwhelming. He's just an absolutely lovable liar rascal, and

(14:25):
the personality it just sort of like drips out of
the TV screen. Um like fifteen minutes into the movie.
Rachel and I were Rachel when I watched it together,
and she adored the movie as well. But we were
immediately just like googling other Lalo Gonzalez movies. We wanted
to see everything he was in. Unfortunately I couldn't find
anything else he did involving monsters. So this might be

(14:47):
the apex, but but we'll see. Yeah, yeah, I mean
his his humor really translates even without an actual like
trans I mean with translation. Obviously we had subtitles. I
think we we each had slight the different subtitles, as
is kind of becoming a tradition here, but you still
it still oozes through, you know, Like you said, he's

(15:08):
very charismatic, He's very funny. I think you would find
him humorous even if you didn't know what he was saying.
I'm not aware that this movie has ever been dubbed
into English, but it's the kind of performance where I
would recommend watching it with the Spanish audio with subtitles,
just because, like the line delivery is is so funny.
It's like you can hear that it's funny even if
you don't speak Spanish, right, right. And then also the

(15:31):
songs that he that he's singing there, I think always
part of the plot, so you need to know what
he's singing as well. Right. So, if if anyone out
there wants to learn more about Nortonia, then, uh, there
are various sources you can go to. But I was,
I was looking around, and there's actually a book by
Catherine Ragland titled Musical Nortonia Mexican Americans Creating an Nation

(15:54):
between Nations. This came out in two thousand and nine.
In this book, she explores the topic in up. But
I found this this particular summary rather interesting. Quote. Musical Nortagia,
a musical genre with its roots in the folk ballad
traditions of northern Mexico and the Texas Mexican border region,
has become a hugely popular musical style in the US,

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particularly among Mexican immigrants, featuring evocative songs about undocumented border crossings,
drug traffickers, and the plight of immigrant workers. Musical Nortagia
has become the music of a quote nation between nations,
and she also points out that it's sometimes seen this
particular genre is being maybe less technically refined compared to

(16:37):
other genres of Mexican of like folk music, but it
is seen as often seen as being imbued with more feeling.
And a lot of this seems to come from the
idea that this was the music of working people who
had to make time for music in the evenings and
and then put all their passion into that. That's true,
and a lot of the greatest folk music traditions are

(16:58):
do have origins like this. They're not people who were,
you know, full time professional musicians, but you know, consist
of songs and structures and uh and and song elements
created by people who were you know, just like regular
working people who were playing music for entertainment in the evenings. Yeah. Yeah,
So anyway, I was very interested to learn this. So
if anyone out there, if you know a great deal

(17:19):
more about nortonia uh and you have some experience with it,
Uh do right in let us know. I'd love to
know no more about this, this this interesting genre of music.
But the excellent cast does not stopped there. So Lolo
Gonzalez is playing our our main earthling for the movie.
He is uh. Loriano is his character's name. But there

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are also a couple of other major characters who are Aliens.
These uh, these ladies from Beyond, and they are played
by Anna Bertha Leppe and Lorrain of Alasquez. Yes, Lepe
plays Gamma and Velasquez plays Beta. Uh. Both of our
Venusians are played by former Miss Mexico's. Now, I know

(18:01):
you could easily make this mistake, but I want to
be very pedantic about this. Lorraine of Alasquez's character Beta,
though she initially starts the movie on the planet Venus,
she is not a Venusian, they say. They say she
is a daughter of or the planet of Shadows, and
so she's an alien on Venus at the beginning of
the movie and then travels with the Venusian Gamma on

(18:23):
her mission. Yeah. One of the really delectable things about
this film is that there seems to be so much
world building going on in it that on the surface
would would be completely unnecessary for a dumb monster movie
that is basically just a vehicle for a popular musician.
And uh, and you know in a couple of very

(18:43):
attractive actors. This is a light, romantic musical comedy with
killer monsters in it. Yeah, and yeah, you get a
sense that somebody puts some thought into this about like, Okay,
how what is Venus's role in the Solar system and
realms beyond the Solar system? How is their power? Because
we ultimately have an interplanetary civilization outlined within this film. Yeah,

(19:06):
all right, well, let's talk about these, uh, these two individuals.
First of all, Lepe who again plays Gamma. She lived
nineteen thirty four through and she was a big deal.
She was a stunning star of Mexico's Golden Age of
cinema and a runner up representing Mexico in the nineteen
fifty three Miss Universe pageant. Other credits of hers include

(19:27):
uh Renee Cardona's Neutron Traps, The Invisible Killers from nineteen
sixty five that stars also starts a guy by the
name of Jorge Rivierio who was in a film called
Werewolf that I think you're familiar with. Jorge Rivero. Yeah, yeah, um.
She was also in three Santo movies, Santo Versus The
Diabolical Brain from sixty three, Santo in the Hotel of

(19:49):
Death from sixty three, and Santo Versus The King of
Crime from sixty two. Okay, you gotta put those on
the list. Which one are we doing first? Diabolical Brain?
That that sounds good. I don't know. I was looking.
I think these all sound like maybe they're more crime
based Santa movies. You know. Oh, diabolical Brain isn't like
a huge alien brain. It might be like a smart criminal. Yeah. Now, Velasquez,

(20:14):
who again plays Beta. She was born in seven I
think is as of this recording is still around. Um.
She was also a big deal during Mexico's Golden Age
of cinema. She was in two different Santo movies, both
in sixty two, Santo Versus the Zombies and Santo Versus
The Vampire Women, and in that she plays Zorina, Queen

(20:36):
of the Vampires. Okay, there's gonna be some cross over here. Warning,
I think I already said something to this effect. We
will be spoiling some minor twists in this film. I
hope you're okay with that and so. So here's the spoiler.
There is just a delightful twist about halfway through this
movie where Lorrain of Alasquez's character is revealed to be

(20:57):
a space vampire from the planet of the Vampires. In fact,
she's going to become the Queen of the Vampires by uh,
I don't recall the exact plan, sucking everybody's blood and
kidnapping Lola Gonzalez, I think, right, And there's some politics
in there, you know, like marrying the Prince of Mars
and so forth. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, but um but yeah,
she's she's a natural to play a vampire queen. You know,

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she's got the look, she's got the charisma. Um and she.
I gotta say she is so good in this movie
and in a comedy performance, because even in moments where
she doesn't have any lines, she's really funny. She's often
the funniest actor in a scene just by doing hilarious
things with her face, like she does these weird I

(21:39):
want that eyes at things, you know, like at weapons,
or at monsters, or at a jukebox or at Piporo
when he's dancing and singing a song about the seasons.
She just does these eyes that that had Rachel and
I shrieking with laughter. Yeah, she's she's really good. And
you know sometimes in films of this caliber, uh, you

(21:59):
have a role like this, go to somebody who's just
kind of stands there. But now she's she's never still,
if not physically, at least like energy wise, there's always
something going on in her head. Um. She was also
in Renee Cardonast three non Santo wrestling picture Doctor of Doom,
in which she stars as female wrestler or luchadora Gloria Venus,

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who has to stop an evil, mad scientist with an
ape named Gomar from carrying out sadistic brain transplant experiments.
What Yeah, and she's Gloria Venus and in this movie
she's on a mission sponsored by the planet Venus. It
makes me think that this film was a big hit
or at least impressed enough people where they're like this,
this gal is great. We need a we're gonna make

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a movie. We need a vampire queen. Bam, she's in.
Or hey, we're thinking about having a Venusian. Uh, let's
put her in. She has some sort of tide of Venus.
Because she went on to play that Glory of Venus
character again in nineteen sixty four is wrestling women versus
the Aztec Money. So yeah, the number of interesting films
are coming up with these two. Beta is a queen

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Lorrainovlasque has rocks the screen in this film. Now we
also have an actual queen in this We have the
Queen of Venus and she is played by Quincuelo Frank
who lived nineteen twelve through nineteen one. And she has
to Santo credits as well. Uh sixty seven Santo versus
the Martian Invasion and sixty Santos versus the Villains of

(23:26):
the Ring. I haven't seen that one, but that one
sounds like the most obvious title. Of course, Santo is
going to fight villains of the Ring. I don't know. Yeah,
she was also she was active much earlier. She was
in uh I think two different nineteen forty two Mexican
adaptations um of first The Three Musketeers but then also
The Count of Money Cristo. Now, another great thing about

(23:56):
this film is that has wonderful costumes, has wonderful monster effects.
Uh So I had to look up, well, who's who's
behind this? And I'm not sure exactly sometimes the monster
credits are kind of lost, especially in limited credits for
a film like this, But uh, Julio Chavez is credited
for costumes, and I noticed that among many other credits,
they did costumes and wardrobe on nineteen sixty nine Santo

(24:19):
in the Treasure of Dracula, which has covered several months back.
So this is a Santo heavy connection section. Yeah, yeah.
And and when it comes to the music, we have
another direct reference to Santo and the Treasure of Dracula
because Sergio Guerrero, who lived through two thousand and eight, Uh,
he did the music in this which which has some
neat sci fi sounds in there in places which I liked.

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But this is a guy with two hundred and fifty
two composer credits on IMDb, including such Mexican films as
Neutron Traps, The Invisible Killers, Los Ombra, Vin Gadora, and
Against Santo and The Treasure of Dracula. So yes, lots
of Santo connections here. Now, if Guerrero here did the music,
I don't know if that necessarily would include other types
of sound design, but I did want to highlight that

(25:05):
this movie has some really good sound design, like there
are moments where the monsters are speaking, and it's not
necessarily music, though I do love the music in this movie.
But it's like the way that the vocal effects they've
done on the voiceovers for when the puppets are talking,
giving them these raspy voices as if they're emanating from

(25:26):
the caves of Hades, you know, just just great monster voices. Yeah,
some wonderful Spanish monster voices in this It's it's pretty great. Well,
should we get into the plot a little bit here?
We've been talking it up. Let's let's tell folks what
this movie is about. Okay, Now, we're not going to
do a full scene by scene on this one. We
might go a little more detail early on and then
later for the for the later parts of the movie,

(25:47):
just talk about some highlights and ideas. But I do
want to get very granular with the introduction because I
think the very intro of the movie really sets the
move fast and break things tone. I would say, in
the in the much better sense of that that phrase. Um,
that's the the attitude this film has towards plotting. So
the very first thing we see is an atom you

(26:08):
see a little like the old school representation of the
atomic nucleus with all of its orbitals, and the narrator says,
this is an atom. Then it shows us a planet.
At first I thought it was the Moon, but I
think it's supposed to be planet Earth. And then it says,
this is the universe. And then it goes on and
atom is infinitely small, the universe is infinitely large. However,

(26:31):
everything is ruled by the same laws. Man has learned
to release the power of the atom, and with it
wants to conquer the universe. Some really elegant symmetry in
this opening narration. This is almost a strange poem of sorts.
And then the narration goes on. It says, but he
dreams of leaving the Earth and leaving his seed on

(26:52):
a distant planet, perhaps with the subconscious desire of starting
a new race, one that will remain ignorant of atomic
power and warfare. Right, So the idea is that, okay,
all all species maybe that discover atomic energy and atomic weapons,
eventually we'll want to go sort of create a new
version of themselves on a planet that is blissfully free

(27:16):
of this terrible knowledge. And of course, throughout that while
this we're getting a lot of we're getting stock footage
of mushroom clouds from atomic tests. Um. But then but
then it goes on to say, and that is a
planet known to us. So here we cut to Venus.
It says, let's go on a characteristically dark night to Venus,

(27:36):
and we see these creepy images of lights with a
hazy four grounds. So they're just kind of uh uh,
the these very fuzzily defined lights in the background and
mist and darkness with these figures and cloaks wandering into
the frame, and it's actually quite creepy. It is I was.
I found this quite evocative early on. Now I understand

(27:58):
some of these space scenes we see early in the
film or are taken from nine seven's Road to the Stars,
a Soviet film about the possible future of space flight.
But I'm not sure about these, uh these kind of
dark hooded figures here with the cosmic backdrop. Yeah, I
don't know about those. I do think, yeah, I think
you're right. I was also reading that some of these
early scenes are just lifted from other films. One thing

(28:20):
I want to add is that you could easily you
could be watching this and think, all right, here's our
sort of out there's introduction, but then we're going to
go into another movie and this will have little more
nothing to do with where we're going. But it does
come back up again. It seems to be in here,
you know, it seems to be stitched into the plot itself,
and it's not just something that's just tacked on the
front to uh, yeah, you know, keep us in our

(28:40):
seats for a few minutes. That's right. I would say
that actually this is this is pretty coherent. As as
bonkers as the plot of this movie is, it all
kind of ties together, like it it makes sense, even
though it's nuts. So okay, we learned that the planet
Venus is preparing for the most important interplanetary space flight
in their history, and we get shots of the surface

(29:01):
of Venus where we see a bunch of women lining
up in military formations outside of a rocket ship and
there is nary a man in sight. So what's going
on here? Well, we get some exposition. The regent of
Venus comes out. I think she's the queen of the
planet and she's addressing to women. So you have Anna,
Bertha Leppe, and Lorraine of Alasquez as the characters Gamma

(29:23):
and Beta, respectively. And they are being given a mission.
Gamma is the commander in chief of the interplanetary spacecraft.
So the region of Venus explains the situation, and the
situation is dire. She says, Okay, the last male on
our planet is dead. They're all gone. They're dead due
to an atomic scourge. And so she is giving a

(29:44):
mission to to to these two brave space pilots. They're
going to fly around and go to all the planets
and collect the most perfect male specimens to bring back
to Venus. And then Gamma says, I will bring you
the most beautiful male specim and the most perfect of
them will sire the new generations of Venus. And then

(30:05):
we get the part I alluded to earlier where the
regent says to says that Beta, played by Lorrain of Alaskaz.
She's a foreigner to Venus. She's the daughter of Or,
the planet of Shadows, and she has been assigned to
travel alongside Gamma on her mission because she's the greatest
space navigator on the planet. And then the last thing

(30:25):
she says to them is in you we trust. Question
about Gamma's outfit, Did you ever figure out what the
thing on her shoulder is. Oh yeah, it kind of
has this kind of tassely feathery thing um, but also
might be an antenna. I'm not sure. Maybe she has
like wireless in in the suit. I'm not sure. I
couldn't tell if it was supposed to be decorative or

(30:46):
supposed to be technology. But yeah, she has this array
of spriggs of something coming off of her left shoulder
and I don't know what they are, and they're there
like the whole movie. She changes outfits, but that's always there.
It looks kind of like she had some of those
like wire fairy wings, but some somebody crumpled them up
and moved them all to one shoulder. I don't know. Yeah,

(31:07):
I mean it's stylish. I mean that seems to have
been the main intent here is that these women should
look extremely stylish as they travel through space. They look
super cool and it is It has announced via footage
from another movie that the orbits have aligned and so
it is time for them to depart, so we see
Gamma and Beta. They enter the interior of their spaceship,

(31:27):
which maybe we should describe because a lot of the
action of the film will take place here. So they're
like two pilot seats where they're operating these big control panels.
I guess Beta is the navigator and Gammas the commander,
and then behind them there is all this heavy machinery
which looked like real heavy machinery, not just like something
on the set. I don't know what they were filming.

(31:47):
Maybe they were uh, generators of some kind, like these
big gears working back and forth. Yeah, the set is great.
It it definitely. They do a great job establishing it
as the command center of this space. I've got kind
of tones of observatory from parts of it, but I'm
not really sure because clearly huge parts of it are

(32:08):
an actual set, so it's not just that they went
into an observatory or into a factory and started filming there.
There's also some some really elaborate stuff they constructed, so
I don't know. Yeah, there are these big clusters of
balls up on the ceiling, like like gigantic grapes. I
don't know what those are supposed to be. And then
there is a big platform looking out over the rest

(32:28):
of the set like a preacher's pulpit, and there's I
don't know, various weird glass bulbs and files in the background.
And just rivets and metal everywhere. It's cool. And then
while the credits play, we see them setting down on
strange worlds, including this one world that's full of crooked
spires of rock that are sort of the same size

(32:49):
and shape as the rocket that lands, except they're you know,
they're stony and jagged. Uh And I guess this must
be happening off screen. But during this credit sequence, were
to understand that they're out there collecting all of the
males along their journey, which they tend to keep frozen
in giant cubes of ice. And they accomplished this by
operating a camera flash at them. Uh and and it

(33:11):
made me wonder which of the male monsters comes from
the spike rock planet. I don't know, it could be
home to. Well, we we know this is not the
surface of Mars, because we know what Mars looks like,
so right, that's where brain Boy comes from. Yeah, yeah,
it's not the Prince of Mars, so it must be
must be one of the others. This would be a
suitable planet, and perhaps for the the skeletal, fleshless being

(33:32):
h yeah, yeah, Billy Bones. Yeah, but we'll we'll get
to him in a minute. Another major development on the
initial premises that somewhere along the way, Gamma and Beta
acquire an alien robot called Tour, and Tour is a
major helper of their mission as they go along. That
he wasn't there as originally, but they say that they again,
in a strange bit of just just ever so briefly

(33:53):
alluded to world building, they say that they collected him
from a dead planet where all of the human's had
annihilated themselves with atomic war. Yeah. He's key to the
whole operation though, because he has the ability to freeze
the monsters in blocks of some sort of ice um. Otherwise,
I mean, they could still handle the monsters. They prove

(34:14):
that later on they have space flamethrowers, but this is
a huge help. Well now I think they can also
freeze the monsters with their little like camera flashbox, I think.
But but he's very helpful for he's very helpful because
he contains these encyclopedias of knowledge about all the planets. Right, yeah,
that's right, And these are often really funny sometimes with

(34:36):
some you know, kind of I guess political satire thrown
in there. They feel like asking about Mexico and stuff, right, Yes,
so so eventually the robot tells them their spacecraft is
suffering mechanical trouble and they got to set down on
the nearest planet for repairs. Well, what's the nearest planet,
the robots says, it is in Tarsus one sub two,

(34:58):
planetoid of the four the order. And so how does
the robot know what this planet is? Well, he says,
you know, before the men of his planet all destroyed
themselves with nuclear war, they left these encyclopedias of knowledge
inside his computer brain. And the men of his planet
had originally wanted to explore this planetoid and Tarsi sub two,

(35:21):
they wanted to explore it, but then they learned a
bit a bit more about it and ultimately decided it
was not worth it because, quote, it is inhabited by
beings that seem to be intelligent, but they do not
know what they want and enjoy destroying each other. And
of course what planets he talking about, it's us and
that's that's pretty spot on. Yeah, So Gamma invade it,

(35:43):
perform a perilous emergency landing, and they set down in
the Mexican state of Chihuahua, which is in the central north.
It's along the border with Texas and New Mexico. Uh
and and so they're setting down their spaceship. And as
that's happening, we get our first meeting with Lalo Gonzalez
as a character named Loriano. What's he doing, Well, of

(36:03):
course he is out riding his horse and singing a
love song to nobody in particular. And the first scene
where we meet him, you just kind of instantly fall
in love with this, Like he sees the rocket ship,
he thinks it's a shooting star, and he makes a
wish and his wish is for uh is for quote,
I hope for a pretty girl, but one who loves me.

(36:24):
And then he sings a song about wishing on this
star to find a woman to fall in love with.
In my translation, he kept saying he was searching for
a divine love. But then the other half of the
song is about how everybody incorrectly believes that he is
no good. So the lyrics include things like they say,
I'm a crook and a liar and I chicken out
in the end, but it's not true. And then he

(36:46):
gets you, remember when when he gives the horse guarantee,
He's like, if you don't believe me, ask my horse,
my horse will tell you I never tell a lie,
and then the horse starts like bucking and neighing. Oh yeah, yeah,
there's some fun stuff. When you first see this character,
there might be a temptation to think, Okay, this is
gonna be just a shining white night. You know that
he's going to be a pure hero. But then you

(37:09):
quickly realize no, he's a barred if not an actual rogue,
but a very funny one. Like he's The comedy begins
to shine through, and there's some stuff with him, like
the way he's riding his horse, either intentionally or accidentally,
but I believe it must be part of the character.
You get the idea that he's not that good at
riding the horse. There's some awkward dismounts, which adds to

(37:32):
the comedic nature of this character. You know, I was
trying They may have said it in the movie and
it went past me. I was trying to figure out
what does Loriano do? I was thinking, maybe he's supposed
to be a rancher, but you don't really see much
about that. Is he just a professional liar? He has
a cow. He spend a lot of time with that cow,
so I think he's technically a rancher. Maybe that's part

(37:53):
of the joke, is that he's because the character I'm
to understand his performance character is supposed to be a
North Mexican rancher. But maybe the joke is, Okay, he
only has this one cow, and it may or might
not even be that good of a milk producer, depending
on the joke. But but basically all he does is
like right around singing and then go go into town

(38:15):
and tell awesome lies. So we see him go into
a bar and everybody's drinking and he's telling these tall
tales about like how he foiled a robbery with a
bunch of bandits and he killed two bandits with one
bullet left in his gun by holding a knife in
front of the barrel and splitting the bullet in half
so it hit them both. And then he starts shifting

(38:36):
from here to these increasingly bizarre stories about unusual bears
and then dinosaurs. Did your translation include dinosaurs? It did? Yes.
Wasn't entirely sure what to make of that. At first,
I thought maybe it's a joke about chickens, And I
was thinking, oh, this is actually scientifically accurate in some respects.
But but then there's the thing about dinosaurs without bones,

(38:57):
and I'm not sure, so maybe something's something is ultimately
lost in translation, but it still came off is very
fun and funny. It seems like normally he just he
is want to tell stories about dinosaurs out by the sawmill,
dinosaurs without bones, boneless boneless buffalo dinosaurs. But in this
whole situation he almost sort of gets into a duel

(39:18):
like a shoot shoot out a scenarios name Rubyano or something.
Yeah yeah, but then kind of talks his way, jokes
his way out of it. So it may do a
great job of establishing his character. Like no, you know,
everybody loves him, but also everybody's a little sick of him. Um,
you know, he's he's a likable guy, but maybe he's
not really doing the most important job in town, whatever

(39:40):
it may be. You almost get the impression that if
he were to encounter real monsters later, nobody would believe
him because he has cried dinosaur too many times. Meanwhile,
after Gamma and made a land on Earth, they come
out to explore their surroundings and there is this hilarious
scene where they just appear to get extreme pleasure of
the discovery of breathable atmosphere. Yes, yeah, this is a

(40:05):
great part of my My wife actually walked in the
room and solve this parton. She was laughing as well.
They're just totally turned on by this planet's atmosphere um,
and they do a great job of playing this up. Yeah.
And so the two aliens come across Loriano on the
road while he's out wandering, and they are just immediately smitten, right,
as I guess nearly anyone would be. But so there

(40:25):
are some some jokes about them trying to find a
language where they can both communicate, but it turns out
the aliens do speak Spanish. I think they've got sort
of encyclopedic knowledge of all languages in the Solar System.
And then through a radio uplink to their robot tour
they like, they look things up. They like in the
middle of the conversation freeze Loriano and then look up

(40:47):
like Mexico to learn things about it. And then also
when he asks our our YouTube from the circus, I
assume because of the strange way they're dressed, Uh, they
have to look up what a circus is. And this
was really fun. Tour gets back to them and says, well,
circuses where animals do human jobs and humans do animals joms.
I love that part. Yeah yeah, um but so oh

(41:10):
and then they're also like, so hey, Loriana or all
earthmen as gorgeous as you, and he's like, no, I
admit it, No they're not, because it should be stressed.
All the males that they have kidnapped thus far are
literal monsters. Yeah, they're not even remotely human. They're big,
like scaly or shaggy or pulsating monsters, and so yeah,

(41:34):
like it makes sense that they see this guy and
they're like, well, well heck, we can stop the project
right here, right, So they split. They tell him they'll
meet him later, and then they go to their ship
to phone home. They're like, Commander, we have hunks uh,
and they're going to bring him back to Venus and
so I don't know, I think some other stuff happens here.
But then eventually we get back to the home of Loriana,

(41:56):
where he also he He lives with his little brother
who he takes care of, named Chewy, and Chewi plays
a decisive role in the climax of the film. Uh
in a big violent showdown with some monsters. But eventually
Gamma and Beta come by Loriano and Chewie's house where
they want to learn about love. Like they show up
at the door and they're like, hey, we don't have
love on our planet. Can you explain to us what

(42:17):
love is? And he explains love by singing a song
accompanied by a juke box that's in his house. Yeah.
I I didn't know what to make of this. I
mean it, it certainly pays off in the plot, uh,
But I was asking myself why why would there be
a jukebox in the house, not only a jukebox, but
a jukebox they have to use a quarter on, so

(42:40):
they're they're having to pay to use it. And I
don't I'd never heard of this being a thing, And
maybe it wasn't. Maybe it just makes sense in this film.
Who would come and collect the quarters for the jukebox
inside your house? I don't know. But this man loves music,
so maybe it's a good investment. But I think here

(43:05):
actually is where we start to get a taste of
conflict between the visiting aliens, because because it starts to
become clear that maybe both Gamma and Beta want Loriano
for themselves, but Loriano seems to only love Gamma. He's
just like not in the Beta, right, He's just not
into her. And you know, he's very upfront, you know,
he's he's very clear that he's not French. Uh, he's

(43:28):
not unterested in two women. He wants one woman and
and and there there has to be this mutual attraction there.
So yeah, he's just not feeling it with Beta. It's
literally in the song, he's like singing lyrics about how
he says love is when two people love each other.
If there were three, that would be French. They're at
least a couple of of digs at France in the
picture and also a really awesome dig at Texas at

(43:51):
one point. So the comedy is pretty I forgot that part.
It's something about, oh, they like big things in Texas,
what would they think of this? But I don't I
can't remember what they were referencing. Okay, was it a monster?
Probably a monster, yeah, or spaceship or something. But Loriano
is also so lovable in the gentlemanly way. He sort
of explains things to Beata, so she she also wants

(44:12):
him for herself, but he's like, hey, you know you
can't make somebody love you look I like this other lady. Yeah,
And luckily he has some songs prepared about the nature
of love and he sings them for us, and so
that's very Yeah. Now we haven't really gotten into the
monsters yet, so maybe we should explain the monster subplot
and then how that links up with with what's going

(44:34):
on with Loriano and Gamma and Beta. Okay, yeah, let's
let's dive into these monsters and certainly jump in if
I if you have a different name than I have,
because I think the name did differed slightly. So first
of all, let's talk about this big reptilian cyclops character.
He's the one on that that Italian movie poster that
I that I described earlier. This creature's name is uck

(44:57):
uh spelled uk and he is the King of the
Fire Planet. Yeah, and so he was also called Uk
in mind, and he speaks in a kind of brutish way.
He says like me King fire Planet. Yeah, and he's
all actually, he's like, we're gonna fight, you know. That's
that's he's he's a very brutal kind of an alien.
But then we also have a cerebral alien. And when

(45:19):
I mean cerebral. I mean, he's got a big old brain,
a big pulsating brain. This is the Prince of Mars. Uh,
this is in my version, uh tagoul in mind he
I think he was Tawalla but he Yeah, so he's
the Prince of Mars. I think you only maybe find
that out later. I'm not sure, but at first he
just looks kind of like a I mean, I will

(45:42):
say again, the monster design is great. He's got these
kind of trends lucent layers over his eyeballs and you
can see these obscure pupils moving around back behind the
translucent layer. It's a very creepy effect. I want to
just emphasize yet again sometimes how it is strangely airy
the monsters are for this light musical, romantic comedy. Yeah,

(46:04):
a lot of love went into the craft of making
these monsters. And yeah, you're not gonna watch this and think,
oh my goodness, real monsters. You know, they look like
movie monsters of this time period. But they're they're really good.
I I loved watching them do their thing. But he's
kind of like the brain mutant from This Island Earth,
except maybe actually even more more lovely. Uh. He's got

(46:25):
the big brain head, the creepy eyes, and he's got
this like this fish like kissy mouth, the kind of
trumpet lips that work back and forth in a disgusting manner. Yeah,
all of these, you know, all of these you can
certainly connect to other monster traditions and other films at
the time period. But I love how the stinct they
are um in the stuff to blow your mind. Discord.

(46:47):
Somebody had shared a video about the sameness of monsters
in modern pictures um, which is an interesting argument that
maybe I have I have some critiques on, but you can't.
You cannot say that these monsters are all the aim
in this picture. They all feel the stink, they feel
like they definitely arise from different planets, from different different

(47:07):
evolutionary paths, and and you get a taste of their
culture as well. That's right. Yeah, So we had the
brain mutant, he's the Prince of Mars. But then there
is also this uh furree spider beetle. He's like a
cross between a giant killer insect and a squatch. Yeah,
this is ou tear of the Red Planet, and he's

(47:28):
ravenous and warlike and but plotting, not not just brutal violence,
like uh, like the King of the Fire Planet. No,
he's more like you know, he's sneaky, has some wonderful
lines to Uh. He's this bit where he's speaking in
this creepy voice, and the translation I had was, I
am Outar of the Red Planet and I will devour
your entrails by the light of Utar and it's seven

(47:51):
moons so good. Yeah, like I was saying, strangely uh,
dark and good like creepy imagery. Uh. In my version,
I think he was actually called Crassus, which is the
most different of names we've reviewed so far. I'm not
sure what the what explains that difference. Now, the the

(48:12):
other male alien in this picture is this fleshless creature
that kind of looks like a bear skeleton that's kind
of floating there. He has no name as far as
I can tell, and all we know is that is
his his it's his homeworld. Is a place where the
people gave up their material form ages ago, and now
they're just animate beast bones floating around and talking and

(48:35):
laughing creepily. Yeah, they're rasping phantoms from beyond who are
just uh, who are just pure embodied hate and and
our fang bone buddy here. Uh yeah, he's he's a
mockery of life itself. That the one thing they all
have in common, aside from being males, is that they
all detest the fact that they have been kidnapped. They

(48:57):
do not like it at all. But powerless against the
superior technology of Venus, right, Gamma and Beta have it
locked down because as powerful as these monsters are, they
cannot overpower science, which Gamma and Beta have on their side.
They've got some some powerful technology that even a real,
real strong, beefy reptile cyclops can't overcome. But of course,

(49:19):
as as the plot develops, like we said, love tears
this duo apart um. You know, Gamma first for blood
love and thirst for blood. Beta gets fed up and
she resorts to her old ways. We get this big reveal,
which I think is an ideal reveal for any movie.
This is a great plot twist for any film. Suddenly

(49:41):
reveal that one of your main characters as a space vampire. Uh,
she gives into her dark thirst. Is Um is essentially
you know, cursed by by Gamma for her for giving
into this thirst. And then Beta's basically decides well, heck,
I'm just gonna let the may is loose. I'm going
to strike a bargain with the males and we're just

(50:04):
gonna rampage over this planet and we're gonna do what
we like with Earth. Yes, that's right. So so Beta
vamps a guy she like, you know, there's some rancher guy,
and she drinks his blood and then when Gamma finds out,
it's like, oh no, that's a death sentence. Back on
Venus again. Politics, like a vamporism is a political issue

(50:24):
in the interplanetary politics of this movie, where it's like
a known crime that has been observed and dealt with
in the past, and if you drink the blood of
a human you will face the death penalty on Venus. Yeah,
it raises a lot of questions, Like I was wondering,
what is it like on the shadow planet? Is everyone
a vampire there? Or are these like former Venusians who

(50:46):
had to acquire some sort of vampiric uh infection in
order to survive on a shadow world? Like what's going
on here? There's something, There's something there, There's something under
the surface, and it's so tantalizing because it it feels
thought out. It feels hole. It doesn't feel like just
a uh you know, just a scrap of sci fi
thrown into this romance. Yeah again the movie. It's catching

(51:07):
you off guard. Every single twist and turn. We we
were screaming at this, just an amazing twist. And when
we say space vampire, she can turn into a bat
and it looks pretty good. It looks pretty good, a
big bat at one point. At one point, Lolo Gonzale
is like points at it because it's swooping down to
attack Gamma and he's like, look a vulture. But so yeah,

(51:28):
from here we get moving into the third act. Oh wait, wait,
there's one more important bit here, and that is that
Beta has also aligned with the Prince of Mars, So
I don't know if they're going to be married and
rule over Mars. There's some talk of this, though it's
also pointed out by the Prince of Mars that he
doesn't particularly find her attractive, but it seems like they're

(51:50):
willing to work through this. Oh yeah, there's a great
part where he's like, you are very ugly, but I
what does he say? He's like, you are extremely ugly
to me, but I admire your your dedication to hatred
or something, and she she's like, oh, like she's really
excited by this observation. Yeah. Her plan now is so
with the loose males, they're going to destroy the initial

(52:13):
settlement of Earth Links and then they're going to spread
out and just take out the rest of the planet.
But she realizes if she's gonna leave this, she needs
to she needs to assign tasks to the different monsters.
So uh, she divides humanity up among the loose males.
So Tire gets the children. Um, that's the that's the
spider monster, um uk or uck. He gets the animals,

(52:37):
and he seems fine with this. He's like, yes, let
me at those cows. I will eat cows. Yeah. And
Beta and the Prince of Mars they're going to I
think they're just gonna get the blood of humanity. They
bond over their thirst for blood, and they're like, let's
do it. They seem to leave the Bone guy out
of this entirely. He shows up, does he? He disappears
from the movie at one point. Um he is in

(52:59):
this scene where all the aliens, all the loose males,
attack our hero, but he's not very obvious in that scene.
You kind of see clattering bones in the background, like
maybe they couldn't figure out how to properly bring that
to life on screen. I don't know. I really thought
the bone guy disappeared from the movie, but but yeah,
I could be wrong. So he I don't recall him

(53:20):
in the conclusion. Does anybody defeat him in the final battle? No, no,
he does. He does kind of vanish at that point
because all the other monsters get some sort of a
cool death. Um So, Cook's face is burned off by
I think by the robot. They're kind of wrestling. There's
a robot burns him. I think, yeah, the brainy at guy,
the big brain Guy is shot in the eye by

(53:42):
the boy with like a slingshot I think, right, yeah, yeah,
with a slingshot, and then his brain deflates like a
punctured volleyball. Yeah, it's a nice grizzly scene. Um Utier
the Spider Beast is forced to bite himself and kill
himself with his own venom brutal. Oh, and then Beta
has a pretty awesome death scene as well. Yeah. She

(54:03):
goes to attack Gamma, and Gamma sort of like dodges
out of the way at the right time and then
Beta gets gets staked, like vampire staked with the branch
that's sticking up. Yeah, and then all that the fleshless
One is never defeated. So I don't know, maybe he
h we don't know what part of humanity was given
over to him. Perhaps he just went out and claimed

(54:24):
it and and he's the one who wins the day. Oh.
But there's one last thing. I almost don't want to
say because I don't want to spoil it because it's
so good. But there's a stinger right at the end
of the movie. If you don't want to hear it,
if you don't want to be spoiled, you want to
see the movie for yourself, maybe you should stop right here.
But if you're okay with it, the the surprise at
the end, we're tore in the juke box fall in love. Yes,

(54:45):
amazing reveal. Yeah, because Tour makes eyes at the juke
box pretty early. He's like hey uh. And then at
the end they're happy together. They're they're leaving the planet,
they have found each other and they're flying away in
a spaceship. Yeah. He like compliments the juke box. He's
like going up to the glass thing like what beautiful
bulbs you have. So at the end, everybody's happy. Uh,

(55:08):
everyone's in love. Monsters and the forces of evil have
been defeated, and it seems like political stability has been
maintained for the interplanetary community. Gamma in the end learns
that that it was wrong to kidnap males from all
the planets to take them back to Venus. Instead, she's like, hey, look,
I'm not going back to Venus. I found a man
on Earth I'm in love with, So we're just gonna

(55:29):
hang out here in Mexico. Yeah. So he no longer
has a cow, so I'm not sure what he's gonna do.
You know, was killed and stripped to bones by two
bones with a stand, so yo. Yeah, the cyclops reptile
comes in and like bites the cow and then the
cow is just clean, like a bone model of a

(55:50):
cow on a stand with like bars. He did a
great job. But anyway, I was gonna say, Loriano, he's
always going to find a way to get by. It's true. Yeah,
he's a survivor. So Ship of Monsters what a delight. Yeah,
this one really is a delight. I highly recommend viewing
this now. I think I should also add that all

(56:11):
versions of this are apparently in black and white. I
don't think there's any evidence of an actual color cut
of the film. Uh. If you think back to our
Santo and the Tomb of Dracula episode we discussed how
at least later, at least you know, close to a
decade later, you have this tradition of shooting in black
and white and in color for different markets. I don't

(56:32):
think that was the case here. I ran across some
color images of the film, but I think these were
just colorized stills that were used to promote it. Oh
that would make sense. Yeah. But still, even in black
and white, this film is just it's so alive. You'll
just be drawn right here. People are over forever, all right. Well,
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(56:54):
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