July 31, 2020 • 11 mins
Holly and Tracy discuss the week's topics, including their own experiences with Central Park, and a segment of the summer edition of Unearthed! that Tracy cut.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production
of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome to the podcast. I'm
Holly Fry and I'm Tracy B. Wilson, and welcome to
Casual Fridays or we do our behind the scenes minisodes
m This week we talked about Seneca Village, which, as
(00:24):
I said, was something I've had on my list for
a long time. Yeah. Uh, and then you know, the
list is like building a castle on sand, It's always shifting.
But I was really really glad to be reminded of
it and to take some time to dig into it.
It's one of those things that I love Central Park
and I often go when I'm in New York. But
(00:46):
now I have a vested interest in seeking out this
area so that I can just go and see it
for myself. Even though there's nothing of the original village
there on the site, you can just know that you're
in that space. Um, and I want to check out
the various plaques that they put up to commemorate and
explain the history and see how all of that is
(01:07):
has been managed. Yeah. We're having a thunderstorm at my house,
so if any listeners are like, what is happening? You
may hear thunder in the background today I have. I
think I've only been to Central Park maybe once, because
the first time that I went to New York City
I was I was in my like I think was
(01:29):
an eighth grade field trips seventh or eighth grade. I
was in middle school. We took a bus overnight from
North Carolina to New York City with the strings class
that I was in, And at that point, I don't
know how much of this was influenced by the fact
that we were North Carolina kids from a not very
like a h our school I think was technically in
(01:52):
the city, but like we were mostly from a relatively
rural area. I don't know how much of it was
influenced by that and how much of it was really real.
We were told not to go anywhere near Central Park
because it was dangerous. Well it would have been more
dangerous then, yeah, um My, I don't know how much
of that was real danger and how much of it
was like big city. No, I definitely went through a
(02:16):
very dangerous period. Okay, so yeah we did not we
did not go there. But then the first time you
and I ever did a live show of this podcast, um,
I was really nervous about it, which is funny to
me in hindsight, but I just like, I was very nervous,
and so Patrick and I went out and had lunch
(02:37):
somewhere and then we went on a walk, and when
I got into Central Park, I was like, this is huge.
Like it's I did not have a conception of how
big that park is at all. Um, It's gigantic. This
episode also really reminded me of UM a brief thing
(02:57):
that we touched on in an earlier episode, which was
we talked about the zoot Suit riots, a similar process
of Chavez Ravine being cleared out of all of its
residents to build Dodger Stadium, which, like that had had
some similar traits in terms of people being suspicious of
the residents there because they were predominantly Hispanic. UM. And
(03:20):
then how outsiders viewed that neighborhood versus how the people
living there viewed the neighborhood, with a very similar outcome
of then there was a stadium there instead of homes. Yeah,
I UM, I love Central Park. Brian and I have
gotten in the habit of UM. If we're in New York,
particularly if we are staying near the I heart offices
(03:43):
in midtown to just south of where Central Park starts. Uh,
we'll just walk the length of the park, like we'll
set aside some hours on a day, or we'll book
an extra day there and just walk the park and
then end up at the met and wander around there
for a little bit. And it's like one of our
favorite things to do because it's just a really beautiful
space and its sounds like a great day. It is
(04:04):
a great day. We love it. We love just walking
around in New York. I love just walking around a
place in general. Yeah. Yeah, It's one of those things
where the last one of the last trips that Brian
and I had there was in the fall, and I
was so watted up with work commitments that he kind
of had that moment of can I just walk the
park by myself? As I go ahead? Um, So he went.
(04:27):
He didn't do our full, our full loop that we
usually do, but he went and hung out a bit
because he loves it there too. It's such an interesting
and unique space because it is um I mean admittedly, right,
we talked about in the episode the reasons for wanting
that space were a little bit pretentious in some ways,
trying to emulate Europe's great garden traditions. But it is
(04:51):
quite marvelous to have that big, beautiful space in the
middle of a city that is so busy, and there
are places you can be in Central Park and you
don't you lose all sense of it being like that.
Even though you can look around and see the buildings,
it's still there is a very impressive capture of tranquility
and nature that that is surprising. It's hard to imagine
(05:13):
what New York would be without it. M hm. So uh, yeah,
we're big fans of Central Park and I hope to
go there again sometime one day when travel might exist ever, yes,
but in the meantime we will stay home and stay safe,
which I hope all of our listeners are doing as well.
(05:35):
So we're almost at the end of July, but we
do finally have Unearthed in July this week. Indeed. Yeah,
it was something that I was planning to do a
little bit earlier than we did, but then Cohen telpro
morphed into a two part thing, which pushed stuff out
a little bit, and then this one became a one
part thing, which for a lot of the time that
(05:55):
I was working on it it was right on the
line of is this going to be one part or two?
I always like to ask you if you have a
favorite among the topics of the unearthed of that whatever
period we're working on. And I just, I, uh, the
the dog poop story of just I mean, it's not
(06:16):
even just because it's scatological, just the sort of this
the surprise factor of how much dog poop there is
in the archaeological record delighted me. Um. I also had thing.
I had one that I had originally been leading off
with that I took completely out. That was about poison control. Yeah. Uh.
(06:40):
And how when we talked about the poison control system
and our pretty recent episode on the evolution of the
poison control system in the US, we talked about how
poison control or poison exposures were increasing because of there
being a lot more focused on cleaning and sanitation and
a lot more toxic cleaning and sanitation products in people's homes.
And then in the first three months of a very
(07:03):
similar uptick reported by the Centers for Disease Control in
the More Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report UM as people
were trying to like keep their houses and what not
more clean, in sanitary because of the pandemic, a big
increase in cause to poison control. It was like a
increase Q one nineteen versus Q one, and then an
(07:30):
increase I think just March nineteen versus March, like a
whole big thing and not surprising, and it um most
of the exposures, it was like more than half of
them were exposure to bleach um and then the like
portions were non alcohol cleansers and hand sanitizers, and a
(07:51):
lot of that exposure was inhaling, so people trying to
bleach their stuff and not being in a well ventilated base. Um.
And I wound up cutting it out because I was like,
now we have to talk about how this like this
trend is continuing, and like I just I'm talking about
(08:13):
it now, even though I wasn't going to talk about
it in the episode. I was like, and we're gonna
talk about the thing that the President said where he
asked if you could inject disinfectants because a lot of
cities reported more poison control calls after that, and I
was like trying to work all of that into an
episode that already felt a little bit long, it was
just making it longer and I was like, you know what,
I could cut out of this episode this and apparently
(08:36):
we're just going to talk about it in the behind
the scenes instead. There you go. And I ever told
you that I don't use bleach ever, No, I hate it,
like I'm a little afraid of it for all of
the inhalation reasons you mentioned. But moreover, I associate bleach
with childhood trauma because my mom loved it. She ruined
(08:57):
so many garments by bleaching. So, um, yeah, we do
have a small thing of household bleach here in our house,
but are our preferred disinfecting methods are are not that
we have other cleansers and whatnot? Yeah? Uh so anyway,
(09:18):
like that was a whole I was like, this is
uh the the amount of time it was taking to
explain all that? Was like, this is now two thirds
of this update section, right right, So maybe maybe we
can just leave that out. Yeah yeah, I I imagine
we're going to be continuing to see the same trends
(09:39):
and poison control calls because this pandemic is still happening. Yeah,
it seems like some people have moved on. Um. I
also said last time that it was the first time
that I had worked on an an Earth episode where
it felt like the same world circumstance kept coming up
(09:59):
over and over, and that was the case with this one.
Also because there was a lot more stuff about this
work was supposed to happen, but it had to be
delayed because of the pandemic or the reason we were
going through this part of our archive was because, like
we're trying to stay busy at work during a pandemic
when we don't have visitors in our museum, that kind
of stuff. So, um, we'll see how things are in
(10:21):
three more months when we do the next the next unearthed,
so long as the pandemic hasn't stopped everything, in which
case we'll do something else. Yeah, yeah, I mean, um,
since since I did not include stuff that happened in July,
I know for sure I already have a few things
that we can talk about next time, because we're recording
(10:43):
this on July four. There you go. Yeah, Uh, you
have questions or anything, send us an email. History podcast
that I heart radio dot com. Otherwise, Happy Friday, everybody,
have a good weekend. Take care of yourselves. Yeah, you're
working this weekend. I hope the people who are coming
into your business, are kind and not rude to you.
(11:07):
The thing that I've heard so many stories about over
the last few months. Stuff you missed in History Class
is a production of I heart Radio. For more podcasts
from I heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production
of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome to the podcast. I'm
Holly Fry and I'm Tracy B. Wilson, and welcome to
Casual Fridays or we do our behind the scenes minisodes
m This week we talked about Seneca Village, which, as
(00:24):
I said, was something I've had on my list for
a long time. Yeah. Uh, and then you know, the
list is like building a castle on sand, It's always shifting.
But I was really really glad to be reminded of
it and to take some time to dig into it.
It's one of those things that I love Central Park
and I often go when I'm in New York. But
(00:46):
now I have a vested interest in seeking out this
area so that I can just go and see it
for myself. Even though there's nothing of the original village
there on the site, you can just know that you're
in that space. Um, and I want to check out
the various plaques that they put up to commemorate and
explain the history and see how all of that is
(01:07):
has been managed. Yeah. We're having a thunderstorm at my house,
so if any listeners are like, what is happening? You
may hear thunder in the background today I have. I
think I've only been to Central Park maybe once, because
the first time that I went to New York City
I was I was in my like I think was
(01:29):
an eighth grade field trips seventh or eighth grade. I
was in middle school. We took a bus overnight from
North Carolina to New York City with the strings class
that I was in, And at that point, I don't
know how much of this was influenced by the fact
that we were North Carolina kids from a not very
like a h our school I think was technically in
(01:52):
the city, but like we were mostly from a relatively
rural area. I don't know how much of it was
influenced by that and how much of it was really real.
We were told not to go anywhere near Central Park
because it was dangerous. Well it would have been more
dangerous then, yeah, um My, I don't know how much
of that was real danger and how much of it
was like big city. No, I definitely went through a
(02:16):
very dangerous period. Okay, so yeah we did not we
did not go there. But then the first time you
and I ever did a live show of this podcast, um,
I was really nervous about it, which is funny to
me in hindsight, but I just like, I was very nervous,
and so Patrick and I went out and had lunch
(02:37):
somewhere and then we went on a walk, and when
I got into Central Park, I was like, this is huge.
Like it's I did not have a conception of how
big that park is at all. Um, It's gigantic. This
episode also really reminded me of UM a brief thing
(02:57):
that we touched on in an earlier episode, which was
we talked about the zoot Suit riots, a similar process
of Chavez Ravine being cleared out of all of its
residents to build Dodger Stadium, which, like that had had
some similar traits in terms of people being suspicious of
the residents there because they were predominantly Hispanic. UM. And
(03:20):
then how outsiders viewed that neighborhood versus how the people
living there viewed the neighborhood, with a very similar outcome
of then there was a stadium there instead of homes. Yeah,
I UM, I love Central Park. Brian and I have
gotten in the habit of UM. If we're in New York,
particularly if we are staying near the I heart offices
(03:43):
in midtown to just south of where Central Park starts. Uh,
we'll just walk the length of the park, like we'll
set aside some hours on a day, or we'll book
an extra day there and just walk the park and
then end up at the met and wander around there
for a little bit. And it's like one of our
favorite things to do because it's just a really beautiful
space and its sounds like a great day. It is
(04:04):
a great day. We love it. We love just walking
around in New York. I love just walking around a
place in general. Yeah. Yeah, It's one of those things
where the last one of the last trips that Brian
and I had there was in the fall, and I
was so watted up with work commitments that he kind
of had that moment of can I just walk the
park by myself? As I go ahead? Um, So he went.
(04:27):
He didn't do our full, our full loop that we
usually do, but he went and hung out a bit
because he loves it there too. It's such an interesting
and unique space because it is um I mean admittedly, right,
we talked about in the episode the reasons for wanting
that space were a little bit pretentious in some ways,
trying to emulate Europe's great garden traditions. But it is
(04:51):
quite marvelous to have that big, beautiful space in the
middle of a city that is so busy, and there
are places you can be in Central Park and you
don't you lose all sense of it being like that.
Even though you can look around and see the buildings,
it's still there is a very impressive capture of tranquility
and nature that that is surprising. It's hard to imagine
(05:13):
what New York would be without it. M hm. So uh, yeah,
we're big fans of Central Park and I hope to
go there again sometime one day when travel might exist ever, yes,
but in the meantime we will stay home and stay safe,
which I hope all of our listeners are doing as well.
(05:35):
So we're almost at the end of July, but we
do finally have Unearthed in July this week. Indeed. Yeah,
it was something that I was planning to do a
little bit earlier than we did, but then Cohen telpro
morphed into a two part thing, which pushed stuff out
a little bit, and then this one became a one
part thing, which for a lot of the time that
(05:55):
I was working on it it was right on the
line of is this going to be one part or two?
I always like to ask you if you have a
favorite among the topics of the unearthed of that whatever
period we're working on. And I just, I, uh, the
the dog poop story of just I mean, it's not
(06:16):
even just because it's scatological, just the sort of this
the surprise factor of how much dog poop there is
in the archaeological record delighted me. Um. I also had thing.
I had one that I had originally been leading off
with that I took completely out. That was about poison control. Yeah. Uh.
(06:40):
And how when we talked about the poison control system
and our pretty recent episode on the evolution of the
poison control system in the US, we talked about how
poison control or poison exposures were increasing because of there
being a lot more focused on cleaning and sanitation and
a lot more toxic cleaning and sanitation products in people's homes.
And then in the first three months of a very
(07:03):
similar uptick reported by the Centers for Disease Control in
the More Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report UM as people
were trying to like keep their houses and what not
more clean, in sanitary because of the pandemic, a big
increase in cause to poison control. It was like a
increase Q one nineteen versus Q one, and then an
(07:30):
increase I think just March nineteen versus March, like a
whole big thing and not surprising, and it um most
of the exposures, it was like more than half of
them were exposure to bleach um and then the like
portions were non alcohol cleansers and hand sanitizers, and a
(07:51):
lot of that exposure was inhaling, so people trying to
bleach their stuff and not being in a well ventilated base. Um.
And I wound up cutting it out because I was like,
now we have to talk about how this like this
trend is continuing, and like I just I'm talking about
(08:13):
it now, even though I wasn't going to talk about
it in the episode. I was like, and we're gonna
talk about the thing that the President said where he
asked if you could inject disinfectants because a lot of
cities reported more poison control calls after that, and I
was like trying to work all of that into an
episode that already felt a little bit long, it was
just making it longer and I was like, you know what,
I could cut out of this episode this and apparently
(08:36):
we're just going to talk about it in the behind
the scenes instead. There you go. And I ever told
you that I don't use bleach ever, No, I hate it,
like I'm a little afraid of it for all of
the inhalation reasons you mentioned. But moreover, I associate bleach
with childhood trauma because my mom loved it. She ruined
(08:57):
so many garments by bleaching. So, um, yeah, we do
have a small thing of household bleach here in our house,
but are our preferred disinfecting methods are are not that
we have other cleansers and whatnot? Yeah? Uh so anyway,
(09:18):
like that was a whole I was like, this is
uh the the amount of time it was taking to
explain all that? Was like, this is now two thirds
of this update section, right right, So maybe maybe we
can just leave that out. Yeah yeah, I I imagine
we're going to be continuing to see the same trends
(09:39):
and poison control calls because this pandemic is still happening. Yeah,
it seems like some people have moved on. Um. I
also said last time that it was the first time
that I had worked on an an Earth episode where
it felt like the same world circumstance kept coming up
(09:59):
over and over, and that was the case with this one.
Also because there was a lot more stuff about this
work was supposed to happen, but it had to be
delayed because of the pandemic or the reason we were
going through this part of our archive was because, like
we're trying to stay busy at work during a pandemic
when we don't have visitors in our museum, that kind
of stuff. So, um, we'll see how things are in
(10:21):
three more months when we do the next the next unearthed,
so long as the pandemic hasn't stopped everything, in which
case we'll do something else. Yeah, yeah, I mean, um,
since since I did not include stuff that happened in July,
I know for sure I already have a few things
that we can talk about next time, because we're recording
(10:43):
this on July four. There you go. Yeah, Uh, you
have questions or anything, send us an email. History podcast
that I heart radio dot com. Otherwise, Happy Friday, everybody,
have a good weekend. Take care of yourselves. Yeah, you're
working this weekend. I hope the people who are coming
into your business, are kind and not rude to you.
(11:07):
The thing that I've heard so many stories about over
the last few months. Stuff you missed in History Class
is a production of I heart Radio. For more podcasts
from I heart Radio, visit the i heart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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