Lady Anne Blunt, Part 2

As Anne matured and her marriage fell apart, she continued to travel between the Arabian desert and England, always working to improve her horse breeding program. Eventually, she and Wilfrid separated, and her final years were devoted entirely to her horses. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Stuff you Missed in History Class from how
Stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.
I'm Holly Fry and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. Okay, so,
if you listen to the first episode of this two parter,
you probably recall that the whole thing was downright soap

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opera esque in many ways, and it is going to
continue in a similar vein. So if you are listening
with younger history buffs, be aware that there is a
lot of talk of marital infidelity and children out of wedlock,
and just a lot of drama in terms of relationships,
and a lot of this really becomes the tale of
Lady Anne Blunt's husband, because that really puts into pretty

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sharp focus the unhappy nature of her marriage and what
she was enduring while simultaneously showing horses and running a
successful horse breeding program and making a name for herself
which he often took credit for. Um So we do
highly wreck man listening to the first part of this
before you jump into this one, because we're kind of
hopping in right where we left off. But for a

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very quick recap, we ended the last episode at something
of a turning point in Lady Anne's life at the
end of the eighteen seventies, so at that point she
was over forty uh, an age her mother told her
she was never going to reach, so she felt this
weird sense of liberation about it. She had also converted
to Catholicism, something that her grandmother, Lady Byron, would never

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have approved of, so it also marks a break in
her mentality in terms of doing what others thought of
her um and she had found what she felt was
her calling as she traveled the Arabian Desert seeking out
horses to combine with English thoroughbreds in her breeding program.
And Ann's husband, Wilfred Blunt, after a very brief period

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in which he attempted to stop his adulterous habits, had
gone right back to philandering. But though the marriage had problems,
Anne and Wilfred's partnership breeding horses at crabb At Farm
as part of their credit stud program remained constant, and
later the couple's daughter Judas, wrote that Anne was really
the one with all of the knowledge about this breeding

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program and that she was basically succeeding despite her husband
Wilfred's quote reckless disregard when it came to keeping and
breeding horses. Yet Wilfrid is the one with the historical marker.
Oh yes, he got credit for everything, and he was
much more famous than his wife in their time and
really even now. But as historians have examined their lives,

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it becomes really clear that she was doing all the
heavy lifting and he was kind of show voting. So
in late eighteen eighty the Blunts traveled to Cairo. From
there they made their way first to the Red Seat
coast and then back to Cairo in the following January.
From there they went into Syria. They went back to
England after this with dozens of new horses, but at

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one point Anne considered abandoning this work altogether. She was
really exhausted, both physically and mentally from all the travel
and from assess thing and arranging the purchase of so
many animals. Yeah, we mentioned in the last episode that like,
while she was taking care of these things and really
keeping incredible records of all of the horses they had seen,
like Wilfred was doing some foolish things like I'm gonna

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go hunt pigs and causing all kinds of problems. But
as additional journeys into Egypt and Syria were scheduled. Anne
felt more and more that where she wanted to be
for a while at least was at the crabbit stud
with their horses. She was increasingly unhappy at being away
from them and from the program, but she went on
these trips, although she noted in her diary that during

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this time she often felt ill while she was traveling.
In early two the Blunts purchased a thirty seven acre
property outside of Cairo to open a stable there, and
up until this point they found themselves increasingly entangled in
the politics that we're leading up to the Anglo Egyptian War.
Wilfrid and Anne often found themselves being just thrust into

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positions where they were seen as mediators among English, Ish,
French and Egyptian diplomats and leaders. The Blunts managed to
weather all of this, largely because they were wealthy and
well connected, but they went back to England in March
of that year, so as a situation became more heated. Yeah.
As you'll recall, before he got married to Anne, Wilfred

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had worked for the Foreign Service, so it was not
completely bizarre that they returned to on occasion to help
out in these discussions. But it wasn't something he was
really necessarily super prepared for either. But once they got
back to England, Wilfred continued to work on his diplomatic efforts,
so much so that he decided that he needed to
move out of the house and to an apartment in

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London so that he would not be interrupted by Anne
or their daughter Judith. And while he had been seen
by dignitaries in Egypt as a man of influence and
import in England, back home, the staff at the Foreign
Office kind of thought he was just meddling in diplomatic affairs,
and to some he was even regarded with suspicion, like
they were like why are you coming here and trying

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to push this again into like are you a spy
of some sort. Similarly, he came to be seen eventually
as a political pot stir in Egypt as things started
to settle down, so much so that he was eventually
banned from the country for three years, and Anne, who
had also supported the cause of Egyptian nationalists, went back
to work with the Horses. While that ongoing conflict and

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violence was playing out in Egypt, Lady Anne had continued
to be loyal to Wilfrid in spite of his behavior,
but he finally pushed things too far, and it was
far enough that Anne said something about it. He had
been having an affair with Lady Augusta Gregory, that two
of them had met in Egypt and they bonded over
their shared dismay over the way that the British Empire

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was handling things in Egypt. For context, Lady Gregory, who
would make a great show topic one day, founded the
Irish Literary Theater and the Abbey Theater. Later in her life.
She did that with William Butler, Yates and Edward Martin. Yeah,
Lady Anne and Wilfrid Blunt, their lives bump up against
all kinds of famous figures in England at the time.

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Like they knew Oscar Wilde, they were friends with um
Gertrude Bell, like there are a lot of people that interact.
But because he had an affair with Lady Gregory, I
wanted to make sure we gave some clarification on who
she was. And Anne had been supportive and tolerant of
Wilfred's work as essentially a volunteer statesman. At this point,

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she had made space for him to do so and
had left him to his own devices, so he was
paying no attention to her their daughter. But she was like,
it's okay, you're working. But in return for all of
this kindness and making these allowances, Wilfred openly declared his
love for another woman, Lady Gregory. And though Wilfred decided
to dial back the relationship with Lady Gregory in order

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to concentrate on his work, after he did, he behaved
almost as though he had been jilted himself. His temper
was short, he sulked, He basically was insufferable, and Anne
had turned a blind eye to his philanderings through out
their marriage. But he claimed to love this woman, which
to her was a different matter, and it wounded her
very deeply. This was when Lady Anne really reached the

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point that enough was enough, and to make that clear,
on auguste she wrote a lengthy letter to her husband.
She detailed how much pain that he had caused her
and how she had realized that what she thought she
had was all a lie. She wrote quote it is
too late I accept the truth, preferring it to a
false dream. She wrote all of her feelings out on

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two pages of Fool's cap, and that's a paper size
that's similar to a legal pad. She handed this letter
over to Wilfred, but she didn't speak to him on
the matter again, and she didn't change her behavior with
him later on, as Wilfred continued his various affairs, including
with Lady Gregory, and wrote quote, I don't agree to
Lady g having all the rose leaves while the thorns

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are kept for me. Yeah, it was interesting, she um.
She was not an emotionally super demonstrative person. She was
very even keel, and we even talked about in the
first part of this two parter, like when she talked
about her wedding day and wrote it down in her journal.
It was pretty dispassionate, more like a catalog of the
day's events. So it was kind of a big deal

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that she had written this letter so passionately, even though
she just handed it to her husband and did not
engage in like a verbal sparring with him at that point,
that was a pretty big statement for her. It is
unclear when Wilfred Blunt wrote his reply to that letter,
Although it is not actually a direct reply to her,
it's more of a commentary on her letter, and it

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seems to have happened sometime between eighteen three and eighteen
eighty six, but again, because of the way um it's
mentioned in their diaries, it's not clear when it actually happened.
But in that letter that he wrote, he confessed his infidelity,
but he also managed to take little to no responsibility
for the problems in their marriage, writing quote in the

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long history of my vagrant heart, I have said little
of what was my conjugal life at home. This, in
spite of my many lapses, had in reality, been quite
a happy one. Though I have loved other women, I
have not for that reason been less kind to my wife,
nor has she had cause to reproach me with the
neglect of those duties for which matrimony was primarily ordained.

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No one, in truth ever had a stronger desire for
the procreation of children, and yet we had no air. Now, However,
the day of such hopes was fairly at an end.
I was forty two and forty five, and with the
vanishing of what we have so long desired in common,
a certain estrangement had begun between us, for which I
do not, in my conscience think I was seriously to blame. Nevertheless,

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the gradual separation was in secret making her unhappy. My
infidelity she had condoned as due to my poets nature,
but my inconstancy, for she so deemed it filled her
with despair. It did not con tinue thus to love her.
It was proof that I had never loved her truly. So,
in case you missed it, he blames her for not

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having a son, and that that's the reason, of course,
once we couldn't have kids anymore. Really, of course I
wanted to see other women, even though he was seeing
them while they were trying for children. Uh, and none
of it's his fault. And she said he could cheat
even though she never really had. Um, I'm not Wilfred's
biggest fan. I'll be very frank about it. Well, And

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in case, in case folks have forgotten from part one,
while they were having trying to have children, she had
a series of complications and miscarriages and and premature births,
and the whole thing was I mean, it was a
big deal. Yeah, So for that to be the thing
that he's sort of pinning the blame on is particularly frustrating. Yeah,

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It's definitely like the writing of someone who is super
self involved and cannot see how their actions have any
uh impact on other people, or that their actions could
in any way be judged wrong. So once again, in
all of this, And found solace in her work with

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horses and her ongoing lessons in Arabic language. They traveled
again in three and eventually made their way to India
that November. During the trip, AND's journals really reflected her
ongoing animosity toward her husband. When Wilfred was sick in Bombay,
she wrote, Wilfred begins again to look much worn and tired,

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and yet he is too independent of any sympathy from
me to care about having it, so that I shall
no longer venture to make even the smallest advance. Yeah,
they kind of got in this habit where they would
travel uh in eastward during the winters and then go
back to England during the spring and summer, and so
the cycle continued over and over. But we're gonna pick

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up with Anne and Wilfred's life once they traveled back
home after this first trip, after they had had that
sort of quiet blowout about his affair with Lady Gregory.
But first we are going to pause and have a
little sponsor break. So later, after the couple had returned

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to England and continued to feel lonely and isolated, and
she wrote about having to one day explain the enmity
of their household to their daughter Judith. But even as
the pair seemed to be emotionally completely separated, they did
stay married and and supported Wilfred as he pursued various
political positions and causes. In the eighteen seventies, he had

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a son out of wedlock with a woman named Mrs
Georgie Sumner, and Ann's money her inheritance paid for that
boy's schooling. After the fallout from Wilfred's love of Lady
Gregory and his ongoing efforts in politics, he turned his
attention entirely to Ireland, hen he started did lobbying for
Irish home rule. He decided to travel to Ireland alone

(13:05):
in eighteen eighty six and wrote in his journal at
the time that he had only enemies and that no
one loved him despite his efforts to be a just
and loving man himself. Again, it's the same thing right
where he can't see how his behaviors are causing his problems.
The family, though including Judith, did all grouped back together

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and they traveled to Rome for Christmas in eighteen eighty six,
and then they moved on to Egypt. From there, they
had gotten special permission that Wilfred could return, although that
permission was granted with some trepidation and with things being
made very clear that like, hey, we told you you
could not come back to this country behave yourself. Um.
So they got to spend time at their stables there
and have what seemed to actually be a pretty RESTful

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stay for several months and something close to an amicable
peace between the spouses, but Blunt's involvement in Irish politics
brought more strife into the family. After they returned home
from Egypt in October seven, Wilfred led a tenant protest
outside of Galway when words circulated that the owner of

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the land was planning to evict everyone. He was arrested.
He wound up spending two months in jail, which was
something that he took as a source of pride. He
claimed to be the only Englishman to take up the
cause of Ireland. Similarly to how things played out regarding
his role in Egypt, he came to be seen as
more of a rabble rouser than a true leader, and
he let that feed his ego. Once he was released

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and the dust had settled, he declared the end of
his political career and turned to poetry as his primary outlet. Yeah,
he was definitely very prolific later in his life in
terms of writing, once he decided that politics were not
for him anymore. Lady Anne Wilfred and Judith, who had
reached an age where she was easier to travel with,

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continued to travel frequently. They continued that cycle that I
spoke about, where they would traveled to the East in
the winters and back in the spring and summer, and Judith,
in her teenage years, started to see more and more
clearly the very, very poor marriage that her parents shared.
She actually once told Anne that she feared being treated
by a husband the way that her father treated Anne,

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and that really terrified and upset, and so much so
that she wrote later in her journal that one must
try to bury such thoughts or be mortally wounded by them.
While she endured Wilfrid's ongoing womanizing and foolishness, which even
if we just listed the names of all the women
he was involved with, could fill an hour of audio.
She wasn't idle. She was, as we mentioned, just a

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few moments ago. Continuing to study Arabic, and she became
fluent enough that she was able to start working on
translation projects. She published the first of her translated works,
The Stealing of the Mayor in e. This is also
sometimes seen as the celebrated Romance of the Stealing of
the Mayor, and it was originally written in the eleventh century.
This project actually offered up another potential avenue for Anne

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and Wilfred to combine their efforts, similar to the way
that horse breeding kind of state a thing that drew
them together. So she had translated all of the work,
and then he had worked her translation into verse, which
sounds pretty cool, although it was not a great translation.
Her translation was very very um literal kind of word

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for word, so it lost a little bit of the
nuance of the original writing. And then because of the
way Wilfred was taking that kind of direct translation and
making it in diverse, the whole thing ended up a
little bit stilted. It didn't get sort of rave reviews
as being a great English translation of this work of
Arabic culture. In the meantime, they were starting to have

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some serious issues with money. While Anne had researched horse
breeding extensively and managed that aspect of the Crabit stud
Wilfrid had been in charge to the administrative side of
the business and he had really made a mess of wings.
He also overspent personally, and things became so concerning that
Anne had to reassure her brother Ralph that her inheritance

(17:08):
wasn't going to be used to cover their business costs. Yeah,
people started to realize that Wilfred was just being super
irresponsible with money, and they were like, hey, you know this,
this inheritance of yours is intended to to be your
personal Like what keeps you personally afloat? Please don't let
him siphon off everything from you to fix his problems
in business. And Blunt at this point had also grown

(17:31):
more forward with his womanizing. It was kind of like,
once that Lady Gregory situation was out in the open,
he just stopped trying to be subtle at all and
in he invited Lady Mary Elco to visit their property
in Egypt while he and and Judith were there. The
intent was that he was going to seduce her, and
this was not just his usual philandering though his political

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rival in Ireland Arthur Balfour had also been interested in Mary,
and while Wilfred was legitimately interested in her, there was
definitely an element of revenge about this whole situation. Wilfred
called Mary his bedowin wife, and during this time she
became pregnant. Mary's husband, Hugo, showed up in the desert

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and joined this party, and Wilfred had a fit of jealousy.
Hugo and Mary had what seemed to be kind of
an open marriage, so there wasn't a lot of concern
from their parts about the affair. But a child who
had been fathered by Wilfred Blunt, which was the only
possible father based on the timing, was going to be
really problematic for the family's inheritance, and it was just

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going to cause a huge scandal when the Blunts returned
home to England. Both Mary and her husband had written
Wilfred letters chastising him for having ruined Mary's life. Wilfred
coped with all of this by telling his teenage daughter
everything for reasons that do not make sense to me, uh,
and then he kind of ran away for an extended trip.

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He traveled around Europe and a further complicate matters. He
had also seduced one of Judath's best friends, so again
one of his daughter's best friends, and then when that
young woman got married, he talked to Judith about how
feeling as though he had been abandoned, even though Judith
was also sad because she realized she wasn't gonna get
to spend time with her best friend anymore. When Judith

(19:19):
finally confronted him about his behavior with her closest friend,
he then threatened to marry his daughter off to whomever
he chose. Fortunately that she had remained in the marriage
throughout all of this and had realized that she could
not trust our count on her husband. While she may
have felt unable to make a move against him for
all of these infidelities. When he put the breeding program

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in jeopardy with his poor money management, she decided to
take matters into her own hands. She started breeding some
of her horses at locations that were away from Crabbit,
and she kept those locations so secret that she wouldn't
even put them in her diary. Only she and Judith
knew where she was doing this. She also started making
business arrangements to acquire new stock with her own money

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without her husband's involvement. As the Blunts reached the end
of the nineteenth century, the various indiscretions which had caused
scandals and drama seemed to become less of an issue
As time had passed. People just were less up in
arms about any of it, and Wilfred actually began socializing
with the same people who had treated him as a
pariah just a few years before, including Mary Elko, the

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woman he had gotten pregnant, and all of her friends,
and became even more devoted to her horses, and she
was said to sleep in her riding habits so that
she could jump out of bed and run out to
be with them. First thing. She also allegedly started calling
the veterinarian for her own illnesses as well as those
of her animals. Wilfred was ill and had been for

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a number of years, starting with digestive issues and progressing
to a point where he was taking morphine as a
pain reliever. Yeah, they were both getting up in age
at this point. Keep in mind, so, uh, you know,
many various things were happening. It is a little weird
and eccentric that she stopped calling human doctors and wanted
to see veterinary doctors for herself. Um, but we're going

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to talk more about their daughter, Judith and her life
as an adult in just a moment. But first we
have to have a little moment and hear from one
of the sponsors that keeps his show going. So Wilfred

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sort of pushed their twenty six year old daughter Judith
into marriage. She had had many young men interested in
her over the years, but she had been proposed to
by family friend Neville Litton, six years her junior, and
while she was considering the proposal, Wilfred kind of jumped
the gun and he went ahead and posted an engagement
announcement in the papers. Judith did not dislike Neville, but

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she also didn't feel ready for marriage, and she was
really terrified at the thought of conceiving and bearing children.
But just the same she accepted the fate that had
spooled out before her due to her father's rash behavior.
And the wedding, with the agreement of both families, was
in Cairo, but Wilfred opted out of attending, citing his

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poor health as the reason, and Anne wrote him a
very detailed account of the entire day. Despite just an
increasing list of medical issues, Wilfred managed to continue to
stir up trouble both politically and at home. When Anne
got home from a stay in Egypt after looking after
the stables there and dealing with some of the business
decisions that he had made, she found out that he

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had made an entirely new mess in England. He had
sold off some of their land and horses and had
allowed other land to become marshy. Yeah, he had this
weird idea that he was going to let the land
go back to nature, and so he canceled this carefully
laid out drainage program that they had and Wilfred um
the Blunts finally separated in nineteen o six. So Ann

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had stayed with him for years, knowing he had never
been faithful and that he had had children with other women,
and that he had caused some business problems. But in
nineteen o six, the final straw came when Wilfred just
openly moved his mistress at the time, Dorothy Carlton, into
the home that they shared, and additionally, stirred up by

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this idea that maybe they were going to separate, the
couple began to argue over the future of the stud
that they had built together and how they might proceed
in separating it. The main biography that I read actually
kind of hinted that, less so than Dorothy Carlton, the
way he wanted to handle the stud going forward was
what really just kind of made Lady Anne say, like,

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I am so done with you. Yes, she eventually had
to agree to Wilfrid's desire to split their assets, although
he also believed that in doing so she would owe
him money and that made her really furious. She had
pitched the idea of just turning over the krabbit stud
to Judith, but Wilfred was not open to that idea. Eventually,
she got everything legally settled, She made sure all the

(24:08):
servants were paid, she stocked the pantry, and she left
to move in with Judith and her family. Judith eventually
left her mother in their cottage to move to crabb
It and tend to the breeding business herself full time.
And for what it's worth, Wilfred continued to be embroiled
in drama because he cheated on Dorothy Carlton with many
of the same paramour as he had kept throughout his life,

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so this was clearly not a matter of him and
Anne being poorly matched. It was just who he was.
Lady Anne got in the habit of wintering in Egypt
at the breeding farm there and then traveling back to
Krabbit Park in the summers to visit Judith and Neville
and her grandchildren. She and Wilfrid eventually reached a point
that they could visit with one another in about nineteen fifteen,

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but the family seemed doomed to always have conflict. Various
other issues rose up between Judith and Wilfred, and then
it at an Anne. Wilfred became addicted to morphine, and
after he and Judith had a massive argument in front
of Judith's children, he was no longer allowed to see
his grandchildren. In the fall of nineteen fifteen, Lady Anne

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decided to move to Egypt full time. The Crabbitt Park
facility continued to operate under the stewardship of Judith, although
it still had financial struggles, and for her part, Anne
described herself as quite happy in the desert, although she
was anxious about a variety of things, including things like
finances and her family. She seemed to think she was

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in a much poorer state than she actually was. She
didn't have a full sense of what her financial value
actually was. In November of nineteen seventeen, a letter from
Egypt made its way to Anne's relatives and related the
news that Anne was very ill with dysenterry. Anne had
also had a skin condition that had been disfiguring, and

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she didn't want her family to make the journey to
see her. She died in a real hospital on December fifteenth,
nineteen seventeen. Wilfrid designed the headstone for her grave in Egypt,
which read Pere lies in the Egyptian Desert, which she loved,
Lady Anne Blunt. Lady Anne left Wilfred her notes and
books on horse breeding, but nothing else. Judith received a

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manuscript that Anne had been working on, and Anne left
her little else because she felt that she was pretty
properly squared away financially. The like the family money was
passing to her, and she was married, and she left
all of her major assets, including the land in Egypt,
to trustees to hold for her grandchildren, specifically her granddaughters,
because they were not inheriting the titles that her grandson was.

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Wilfrid and Judith ended up miired in a legal battle
over the assets that the trustees had taken possession of
the horses, which were widely recognized for their value, had
been seized by Blunt, but Judith and her children took
them from his property. They moved him back to Krabbit. Simultaneously,
other breeders were trying to make offers on all the stock,

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but the question of ownership made the whole situation a
big mess. After a legal battle, Wilfred Blunt lost the
horses to his daughter. That was something of a shock
to him. I think he really thought, like I helped
put this whole thing together. They were my wife's horses,
so they should be my horses. He was a little surprised,
but he actually died not that long after all of this,

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on September. Judith Blunt Litton divorced from Neville in nineteen twenty,
but she devoted her life to continuing her mother's work.
She maintained the Crabbitt bloodlines for years. She finished her
mother's book, titled The Authentic Arabian Horse in that had
been Anne's greatest project, and it was the manuscript that

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had been left to Judith in the will, and today
an estimated of Arabian horses in the world can trace
at least one of their bloodlines back to the crabb
At stock and that is all thanks to the work
of Lady Anne Blunt and her daughter Judith. Do you
have some listener mail for us? I do, and it's
not so dramatic Like I the whole time I was

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reading her biography and a biography on Wilfred, I just
kept marveling and how dramatic all of it was, particularly
the fact that so many of these marriages. I mean,
I understood all for a long time that a lot
of marriages at that level of society are kind of
arranged for financial benefit and for positioning, but they really

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were just so casually like, oh, you should go stay
with your mistress while she's sick and we'll hook back
up later, and you I'm gonna go see this person,
and the nature of it is so very soap operay
that it was just startling to me that it was
not necessarily like one or two here and there, pretty common. Uh.
My listener mail, however, is delightful. It is brief because

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this episode ran a little long. It is about the
Georgia gold Rush, and it is sent from our listener
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episode on the Georgia gold Rush. My mother's family has
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an ancestor won a parcel in the land lottery. Unfortunately,
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the Cherokee. I have taken a field trip to a

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gold mine and honestly cannot recommend going out of your
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the idea. I mean, it's not cool what happened to

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