The Art of Sway
Welcome to The Art of Sway, a podcast that dives deep into the exciting and dynamic world of influencer marketing. Join hosts Danielle Wiley of Sway Group and Casey Benedict of Maverick Mindshare as they engage in spirited discussions on controversies, platform updates, industry news, and compelling hot topics of this growing industry. Tune in each week for expert insight, lively debates, and smart ideas on the future of influencer marketing.
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In this conversation, Danielle and Casey delve into the intricacies of influencer marketing, focusing on the processes and tactics that underpin successful campaigns. They discuss the dynamics of working with global agencies, the importance of vetting influencers, and the challenges of client approval processes. The conversation highlights the significance of communication and understanding client needs, as well as the role of samp...
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April 28, 2025 • 31 mins
In this conversation, Danielle and Casey discuss the characteristics of good and bad clients, emphasizing the importance of communication, feedback, and collaboration in client relationships. They share personal experiences and insights on how to foster better partnerships and the value of understanding clients' business dynamics. The discussion also touches on the role of influencer marketing and the need for agencies to navigate ...
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In this conversation, Danielle and Casey discuss the essential non-negotiables for brands when hiring influencer marketing agencies. They explore the importance of transparency in agency fees, the need for agencies to deliver on promises, and the significance of having a knowledgeable team behind the agency. The discussion also touches on the challenges faced by the industry and the expectations brands should have from their agenci...
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In this conversation, Danielle and Casey discuss their experiences at the Nimbus Innovation Summit, focusing on the importance of collaboration in influencer marketing, the challenges of pricing and measurement, and the emotional dynamics involved in negotiations. They emphasize the need for support and resources in the industry, the significance of job satisfaction, and the value of in-person connections. The discussion highlights...
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March 31, 2025 • 34 mins
In this conversation, Danielle and Casey explore the evolution and significance of influencer events in marketing. They discuss the shift from large, extravagant gatherings to more intimate, meaningful experiences that foster genuine connections between brands and influencers. The duo emphasizes the importance of creating engaging, accessible events that provide value to participants while also addressing the challenges brands face...
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March 24, 2025 • 28 mins
In this conversation, Danielle and Casey discuss the evolving landscape of the creator economy, emphasizing the shift from mere influence to entrepreneurship among creators. They explore the pressures placed on influencers to launch their own brands, the misconceptions surrounding influencer value, and the need for brands to support influencers in their marketing efforts. The discussion highlights the challenges and expectations fa...
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March 17, 2025 • 28 mins
In this episode, Danielle and Casey discuss the recent announcement by Unilever to significantly increase their investment in influencer marketing. They explore the implications of this bold move, the operational challenges it presents, and the potential role of AI in influencer marketing. The conversation also touches on the current economic climate and how it may affect marketing strategies moving forward.
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In this conversation, Danielle and Casey explore the intersection of social media management and influencer marketing, discussing the importance of understanding algorithms, trends, and audience engagement. They emphasize the value of expertise in creating effective marketing strategies and the need for authentic connections in the industry. The discussion also touches on the challenges of navigating client expectations and the evo...
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February 24, 2025 • 34 mins
In this conversation, Danielle and Casey explore the implications of AI in influencer marketing, discussing the absurdity of AI influencers, the ethical considerations of using deep fakes, and the potential impact of AI-driven agencies on the industry. They also delve into the evolving landscape of SEO and marketing in the age of AI, emphasizing the importance of creativity and chaos in maintaining authenticity and connection in ma...
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February 17, 2025 • 32 mins
In this conversation, Danielle Wiley and Casey Benedict discuss the cultural impact of the Super Bowl, particularly focusing on the Doritos ad campaign that invited creators to submit commercials. They critique the implications for the creator economy, emphasizing the need for fair compensation and the importance of nurturing talent. The discussion also touches on the challenges brands face in bridging generational gaps in marketin...
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February 10, 2025 • 34 mins
In this conversation, Danielle Wiley and Casey Benedict discuss their experiences at recent marketing events, focusing on the Creator Economy Live and the Women's Agency Ownership Summit. They explore the dynamics of networking, the challenges faced in influencer marketing, and the misconceptions surrounding the ease of influencer campaigns. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding audience perceptions of sponsored...
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February 3, 2025 • 30 mins
In this conversation, Danielle and Casey explore the nuanced differences between influencers and creators, discussing their roles in marketing and the implications for brands. They delve into the evolving language around these terms, the importance of trust and expertise in influencer marketing, and how aspirational marketing plays a role in consumer behavior. The discussion highlights the value of understanding these distinctions ...
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January 27, 2025 • 30 mins
In this conversation, Danielle and Casey discuss the overwhelming nature of current events and the impact on their work in social media and influencer marketing. They explore the challenges of navigating a rapidly changing digital landscape, the importance of building trust with clients, and the need for safe spaces within professional communities. They emphasize the value of connection, the cyclical nature of social media trends, ...
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January 20, 2025 • 30 mins
In this conversation, Danielle Wiley and Tracie Nall discuss the recent instability surrounding TikTok, particularly in light of the current ban. They explore the implications for clients and creators, the challenges of shifting to alternative platforms like Instagram and YouTube, and the impact on influencer marketing strategies. The discussion highlights the importance of adapting to the changing social media landscape while ensu...
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In this conversation, Danielle Wiley and Casey Benedict explore the complexities of influencer marketing, discussing the spectrum of platforms available, the importance of human oversight in vetting influencers, and the role of technology in boosting content and reporting metrics. They emphasize that while platforms can streamline processes, the human element remains crucial for effective influencer marketing campaigns.
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January 6, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode, Danielle Wiley and Casey Benedict reflect on the year 2024, discussing the challenges and successes in influencer marketing. They share personal experiences with influencer collaborations, emphasizing the importance of communication, professionalism, and creativity. The conversation highlights the need for influencers to establish clear communication styles, navigate exclusivity and usage fees thoughtfully, and eng...
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In this conversation, Danielle Wiley and Casey Benedict discuss the chaotic nature of the holiday season for parents, the potential ban on TikTok and its implications for marketing, the emergence of B2B influencers on LinkedIn, and the challenges faced in B2B influencer marketing. They explore the complexities of influencer partnerships, the importance of authenticity, and the need for best practices in this evolving landscape.
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In this conversation, Danielle Wiley and Casey Benedict discuss the complexities surrounding influencer agency fees, including the lack of consensus on what these fees should be, the evolution of transparency in the industry, and the challenges of negotiating fees while maintaining proprietary knowledge. They also touch on the growing importance of influencer marketing as a legitimate part of the marketing mix and the issues of dis...
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November 25, 2024 • 31 mins
In this episode, Danielle Wiley and Casey Benedict discuss the relevance of engagement rates in influencer marketing. They explore the declining trends in engagement metrics, the challenges of communication between agencies and clients, and the complexities of calculating engagement rates. The conversation also touches on the limitations of engagement rates as a sole metric for success and the importance of understanding consumer s...
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November 11, 2024 • 38 mins
In this conversation, Danielle Wiley and Casey Benedict explore the evolving landscape of influencer marketing, focusing on the tension between performance metrics and brand awareness. They discuss the historical context of influencer marketing, the importance of understanding consumer behavior, and the challenges faced by agencies in meeting client expectations. The conversation highlights the need for a balanced approach that val...
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