March 3, 2021 • 34 mins
Colin explains why Tom Brady doesn’t have to retire from the NFL anytime soon after winning his 7th Super Bowl. He gives praise to Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray and argues it’s time to buy in on Murray as a great player in the league right now. Plus, he talks to Nick Wright from First Things First about Dak Prescott and what will end up happening with his contract this off season with the Cowboys.
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as they do on Wednesday. It's great heavy. George Taylor
is joining us. I am gonna defend Tom Brady righteously.
He said, I really know it's it's not really a
I can always leave with Brady, right, but yeah, we
can always say that Brady. Giselle is starting to get
under my skin. Oh okay, that's what we're doing. Yeah,
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what is it about women not letting us have fun
Oh okay, I mean life is I mean, you can
have all the funny. What. So Tom Brady was a
Super Bowl He's on James Cordon, right, funny talk show guy.
And he's on the show, and James Cordon asked him
about right after he won the Super Bowl, and here's Brady.
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All of a sudden, I see my oldest son run
over to me, dad, you know, and I gave big
high I saw my you know, my two little ones,
and all of a sudden, I saw my wife and
I gave her a big hug. And just as I
did it, she says, what more do you have to prove?
It's not about that. Let me speak for guys a little.
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It's not about that. Some of it's just it's fun
to hang out with guys and laughs and common rotterie.
When all these guys retire, they all hate practice, you
know what they miss just to laugh with other funny
alpha males and inappropriate, stupid guys in the locker room.
And we all got a little meathead in us. It's
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not about proving stuff. Gizelle's gonna model until, you know,
in her sixties or seventies. What does she have to prove?
Is she gonna get more beautiful? I don't know. She
just likes doing it. It's fun, fun to feel good
about yourself. You know. Here's something that I talked about
briefly yesterday, so coincidental, this was a topic. Twenty four
hours in a day. You sleep eight, that means there's
sixteen hours left in the day to do stuff. And remember,
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if you're a successful athlete, you're wealthy. And if you're wealthy,
wealthy people don't have to do the mindless crap you
and I do to fill out their day. Yesterday, Greg Twoey,
producer on My show, had a flat tire, had to
go to three tire store, still couldn't get it fixed.
Wasted two and a half hours. I was booking airline flights.
I'm on Delta dot com, I'm on the phone. Wasted
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ninety five minutes of my life. And Brady's not doing that,
James Harden's not doing that, Kevin Duran's not doing that,
Lebron's not doing that. They got a staff from the
time of season ends to the time camp starts. His
five months, he's got six homes, a private jet, and
a staff. That's sixteen hours a day. You can be
a great dad and a great family man. Is a
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professional athlete, and you can be a great professional athlete.
You can do both at the same time. Now, if
you're a CEO, I always say best jobs in the
world are great athletes. It's not a ceo. It's not
Elon Musk. Elon Musk is on the clock every day.
A great surgeon's on the clock every day, a great
attorney's on the clock every day. A CEO for our
company on the clock every day. Pro athletes get time off,
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They get time off. They get more free stuff than
other rich people. Tom braden't pay for anything. They have
free stuff all the time. So this idea that you
can be a great athlete or you can be a
great family person. He's got sixty now a day. And
by the way, by the time your kids get to
be fourteen, they don't want to hang out with you
all day anyway. Did you want to hang out with
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your parents when you were fourteen and fifteen? I didn't.
What is this rush to get Brady out of football?
What's this rush to get athletes out of football? Peyton
Manning retired. He is so bored. He's doing a comedy
show on ESPN Plus and another show where he watches film.
He's bored out of his mind. How many rounds of
golf can you do? Nobody's telling Meryl Streep, she's got
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to retire. Nobody's telling Hanks or Denzel they got to retire.
In fact, I went to the top five grossing bands
of twenty nineteen, Elton John mid seventies, Metallica. They're around
rolling stones. What nobody's telling them to retire? You can
be a great athlete and you can be a great
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family guy. It's not just about what do you need
to prove? That's part of it. You like to prove
people wrong. I like to prove people wrong. I had
a lot of doubters join. I would bounce around the country.
We've had critics and dowty. It's kind of fun to
stick at Tom. But in the end, this is fun.
We're off at noon. They have paid. Well, you're off
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at noon. You're never going to get this camaraderie back
when I retire. I'm not going to get a sit
in a room for two hours. I've said this before.
I like creating the show as much as I like
doing the show. I just like being curious and getting
ideas and building little rants. So I mean, Gazelle's great
and everything, but can we slow down on this. Tom
Brady's also a guy. He's Philip Rivers has a little
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bit of this in him. He likes practice. Brady's into
football practice. Most guys aren't. It's tedious. I briefly played
high school football. Football practice is hard. It's what I
grew up on the coast of Washington. It's wet, you
get hit, it's just it's just awful. Of course, I
was in small high school showers and it was, you know,
not great facilities. But a football practice is generally no fun.
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And Brady loves football practice, so I don't understand the rush.
He's got sixteen hours a day after how long can
you jet ski? How many times can you ride a
horse in Costa Rica? Football's fun and you know, and
it's really fun when you're winning Super Bowls. Don't give
it up. My theory on life, find stuff that makes
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you happy and do it over and over and over
and over again. And that's a great life. I tell
my kids all the time, what makes you happy? My
son loves tech. Do tech a lot, hang out with
people who talk tech. I hear him on his little
computer upstairs, laughing all the time. There's little buddies. They
can't be together during the pandemic. But they're just talking
about the silliest stuff. And I don't get any of it.
And it's silly to me, and it's tech stuff. It
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makes him happy. So do it over and over and
over again. Tom Brady, let me knock down a beer. There.
You got a little drunk one, little sideways off the rails.
But that's not who he is. Who he is is
a family guy and a football guy, and there's time
for both. Okay. So jj Watt, as predicted, has acknowledged
that a big reason he went to Arizona was like style.
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But one of the other reasons jj Watt went to
Arizona was Kyler Murray, the quarterback, and jj Watt said
as much yesterday. She's been a winner at every stage
of his life. And that's not a coincidence. You're a
winner because of the way that you work, and because
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of the aura that you give off, and because of
the talent that you have. And I think that he
has all of those things and he's going to continue
to win and continue to have success and that's a
part of the reason that I'm here. I told him
yesterday in Texas, I'm here because I believe in you,
and so I'm here. You have to have a quarterback
in this league to have a chance, and he's our guy,
and I'm looking forward to going out there and playing
with him. It's interesting when you look at the passing
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stats first year to second year, Kyler Murray approved a
little bit, and it reminds me of my phone bill.
I have a phone bill that's eight hundred and nine
hundred dollars a month, and that seems outrageous. And for
almost all of my life that was outrageous. But then
phones changed, and now my Rolodex is on my phone,
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my alarm clock's on my phone. All six kids have
a phone. I pay for wife's got a phone. I've
got a phone. I book travel on my phone, my
calendars on my phone. I buy food on my phone.
I order Christmas presents on my phone. So nine hundred
dollars from my phone bill used to be ridiculous. Now
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it's a steal. That's all I paid to do all
that in my phone. That's Kyler Murray. Don't look at
his quarterback stats you have to look at what he
provides that other quarterbacks can't and never did. If you
look at his quarterback stats, they barely went up, but
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you know went up wins five ten and one to
eight and eight. You know it up his rushing yards
and touchdowns forty percent. He went from twenty four touchdowns
total touchdowns with thirty seven, seventh best in the NFL.
The other six ahead of him are all great quarterbacks.
The six ahead of him are Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen, Brady,
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Russell Wilson Mahomes, Tannehill, and then Kyler Murray. He is
a non traditional quarterback. And my phone bill now isn't
like my phone bill for the first fifty years of
my life. In the last seven eight years, I do
so much with my phone. I feel like I'm stealing
it for under a thousand dollars a month. It's everything.
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It's my guest booker and my calendar, and it's my FaceTime.
I was telling Joy the other day outside of the television,
do you understand the value I get on FaceTime? I
talk to my kids every single day right next to me.
Everything's on my phone. I buy food, I buy clothes,
I book vacation. I do everything on my phone. I
watch movies when I fly on my phone. It's my television,
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it's my computer, it's everything. And so when you look
at kid, don't look at just the passing stuff. In
the NFL history, the league history, there's two quarterbacks who
have had twenty five passing touchdowns and ten plus rushing touchdowns.
He's one of them. He's a completely non traditional quarterback.
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And I agree with JJ Watt. You can win a
Super Bowl with Kyler Murray. You can. Don't look at
the passing stats he is. That's not what he's about.
That that's not just what he's about. There's another dimension
that's probably forty percent of his game that virtually nobody
else in league history can provide. Throw it and run it.
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He can do it with anybody ever in this league.
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FS one and the iHeartRadio app. I watched the Lakers
Suns game last night. Devin Booker got thrown out, which
usually for Phoenix last year would have meant an automatic loss,
and yet they beat the Lakers. That's what now Phoenix
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does all the time because Chris Paul showed up. Chris
Paul after Lebron James, is the single most influential player
in the NBA. I know he's not cool or lit.
He's not even likable, and I love him. He's not
even likable. He's not vertical mid range guy. Phoenix hasn't
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made the playoffs in eleven years. The last three pre
CP three years, they were the worst team in the
West seventy four one hundred and sixty three. Chris Paul arrives.
They now are second in the West with the same roster.
Last night Devin Booker got thrown out. DeAndre Ayton said,
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Chris Paul took over the huddles. Here's what followed the CPS.
A guy's who who leads vocally. Man, he's always on
his shown us the little things on how to win,
the small details that count, especially today's game, um, you know,
losing the book. Uh, you know, he sat us down
in the huddle and made us made sure we ow
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when you have to do winning plays and you know
there's no mistakes, and you know when when the game's
junkie like this, you know, just to keep our head
and you know us as young playz you just want
to listen, and you know it's contagious the way I
approached the game, So you know it's a blessing. Chris
Paul joined your team, you win, he leaves, you lose.
Only other player you can say that about in the NBA.
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Only other player is Lebron James. Oklahoma City got rid
of him because they were trying to tank and he
made him win too much. He's the anti Zach Levine.
Zach Levine is vertical and flashy and hits threes and
bunches and gets hot and is streaky and is a
blast to watch. And his winning percentage is thirty one percent,
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lowest in the league for a player with three hundred games.
Zach maybe the greatest guy in the world. Never makes
anybody better. Two weeks ago, rookie Anthony Edwards had a
filthy dunk on the baseline plays to the t Wolves.
Twitter exploded, Oh my god, that's unbelievable. You know what
else was unbelievable. Anthony Edwards went oh for seven in
that game on threes, three for fourteen from the floor,
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and a plus minus of negative thirteen. That's also pretty unbelievable,
but hey, he was cool. Chris Paul's never cool. When
he was with Blake Griffin, all I heard for years
was he is holding Blake Griffin down. Since the divorced,
Blake Griffin has not won a playoff game. Chris Paul's
won twenty but he doesn't sell any issues of Slam magazine.
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I'm not sure he can dunk. There's a real John
Stockton quality to him. He's sort of annoying. He's not
always likable. He's kind of snarky and snarly at times.
He is Stockton, who I think is the third or
fourth best point guard, Magic's best. After that, we can
argue about all of them. But I love Chris Paul.
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I loved him at Wake four. I loved him with
the Clippers. I think he's as smart as anybody in
the NBA, not a shock many say his best friend
in the league is Lebron James. It's not as big,
as as strong, not as talented, but Chris Paul can
be on the cover of my magazines. Ed Norton's not
going to be on people either, as Don Cheatle because
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they have, you know, their act together. So does Chris Paul.
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your podcast from. Nick right now joins me, host of
First Thing. So let's start with this. I'm a little
upset with Gazelle Bungeing Supermodel because she said after Tom
won the Super Bowl, Brady admitted she came up and said,
what do you have to prove? And I'm like, it's
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not about just that, Like she's gonna be a supermowl forever.
She has nothing to prove. It's like if you are
great at something and you're well compensated. Nobody's running Rolling
Stones off the stage. Nobody's running Metallican Denzel off the stage. God,
why don't we rushed him to get rid of Brady?
The greatest American patriot, the greatest American football hero? All right? Uh? Yeah, Listen,
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there's two people in America that need to retire, Tom
Brady and Colin cowhurt, and both for me, Tom Brady
because I'm sick of him, and Colin Cowherd because I've
been drating for that seat for you, talked about the
years together with you for five years to keep signing
contract extensions. Yeah, I agree with Giselle and unlike listen,
maybe I don't think Denzel still does his own stunts.
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I don't you know the rolling Stones. No one's hitting
Mick Jagger with a guitar when he walks off the stage.
I think Tom should really consider it. I think the
you know, I heard Tom's interview with James Gordon talked
about throwing that trophy that could have gone terribly for him.
Walk off on a high note. Tom, I know nobody's
talking about it, but the more listen. I think Giselle
Bunchen makes some really really strong points, and I really
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once again, Colin, you ended last week's interview with a
non question question about Tom Brady, and you're starting this week.
There was no question there. It's just an excuse for
you to make me watch these highlights again, which I
don't want to watch. So can we please move on?
By the way, you see Nick's haircut to do Look
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how sharp Nick looks. He looks really good. Well, it's
desk because his wife does that for a living, right,
She's all right, all right? So I joy and I laugh.
About Dak Prescott, it's the story that won't end. It's
like that movie Gettysburg. It's like seven hours. I'm like,
could the story end with Dak? You have a belief
on how the Dak Prescott thing is gonna end? What
is it? Yeah? I don't know why it took me
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this long to have this epiphany. But Dak's not signing
an extension, and he's not going to sign an extension
because he shouldn't. So, Colin, here's the thing. From twenty
sixteen until twenty twenty two, do you know which NFL
player has guaranteed guaranteed himself the most money. It's Kirk
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Cousins one hundred and ninety two million dollars cash money.
Kirk Cousins will have been compensated from twenty sixteen through
twenty twenty two, unless the Vikings cut him in the
next twenty days. If he's on the roster by I
think it's March twenty seventh, next year's salary, meaning the
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twenty twenty two salary gets locked in fully guaranteed. And
it's because he played the franchise tag game in one
and so once you get franchise tagged the one time
at the quarterback position, if you can stomach it for
the second time, you are just essentially guaranteed to be
able to sign the perfect contract, which is what Cousins
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did the first time with the Vikings, and then he
was able to parlay that into a second contract with
the Vikings, both of which de facto fully guaranteed. So
I don't think Dak's gonna blink. I think Dak's gonna say,
you paid me thirty one million last year, you're gonna
have to pay me thirty seven million this year, and
then I'm going to be able to either sign with
you or with anybody on my terms. And so I
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think the Cowboys misplayed this hand. I think they believed
what to be fair to them. I believed which right
was right before last season, I thought Dak would blink.
I thought, right before last season, Dak would say, come on, like,
all right, I'll take whatever the best last offer is.
I need to get paid. And he didn't do it.
He didn't do it two years ago, he didn't do
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it last year. And now I think he has all
the leverage in the world to just say, franchise tag me,
that's fine, and then I'm going to get a four year,
hundred and sixty million dollars, fully guaranteed contract from somebody.
So yesterday I did something and nothing ever gets. In fact,
I predicted it on the show with Joy Taylor. I said,
this won't be contextualized and people will not understand this.
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We were talking about Dak's contract, and I said, if
you could pay people in order of what they're worth,
and the worth would be on talent and then on value.
Because let's be honest, Bill Belichick let go of a
lot of talented people. He never let go of super
valuable people. There's a big difference. I've worked with a
lot of people in my business who are talented, you
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get let go. Companies don't let go of valuable people.
So I said, the US offense is so bad schematically,
Seattle can't score without Russell Brady wins you Super Bowls.
We've watched the Packers without Aaron Rodgers. They can't win games.
And Josh Allen, let's be honest, they were twenty years
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of nonsense. He's their best running back and their best
quarterback in the second tier. And I knew this would
get people worked up. I put Mahomes and here was
my reasoning. I said, he's more talented than all of them.
But Andy Reids won thirteen playoff games without him. They
beat the Vikings two years ago, a playoff team without him.
They are so well coached, they have such good weapons.
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They would win games without him. They won the divisions
without him. They just wouldn't win any Super Bowls. So
his talent is an a plus. But in terms of
the franchise would be Titanic without him, No, they just
wouldn't be special. And everybody looked at that and went,
that is I'm literally canceling you. And I thought, is
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that an outrageous opinion. Yes, it's an outrageous opinion, okay.
And also I really like what you did there, which
is one of my favorite moves at the very beginning,
which is I'm being attacked for this opinion, not because
it's a terrible one, but because people don't understand how
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brilliant it is. I go to that move a lot.
It's not always correct. Sometimes it's I'm being attacked for
this opinion because the opinions terrible, and you have recreated
this Chief's dynasty pre Mahomes that didn't exist in the
Chiefs from Joe Montana's retirement until the day Patrick Mahomes
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started his first game. The Chiefs won one playoff game,
and it was against the Bill O'Brien coach team, so
I don't know if it counts. They won one Andy Rito,
he wins divisions. Yeah, and he won one playoff game
with Alex Smith, a single, solitary, very playoff game. And
and somehow you twisted the logic to where you could
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argue that Mahomes should be if you were just doing
it based on like salary, the Josh Allen thing, I maybe,
but if you're gonna have Rogers where he is, you
cannot have mahomes beneath him. So no, Colin, you were
not attacked for this because it was you know, you
got unfairly edited on Twitter. You were attacked for this
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because it's wrong, all right, And I you know, I
dare I say, I think you need to issue an
apology because I'm not for canceling people, but I think
this is cancelable, I really do. I think it's such
a bad opinion. And finally, you are more stylish than me.
I'm not real. You know. I'm an accountant who has
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a talk show. You know, I like business. Your board
of death with it. You. You've got a lot of
flash and sizzle. You're the Zach Levine of talk show host.
I'm the Chris Paul. But here's the thing. Oh, Chris
Paul goes to Phoenix. They were a mess forever. Take
Lebron out of the league. There's an argument to be made.
The only people that show up on People Magazine don't
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have their act together. They sell magazines. Don cheatle and
Ed Norton never end up on it. Chris Paul, similarly,
we don't talk about him. He's not good on YouTube.
He's not good on the highlights ever since Blake Griffin
and him divorced. He's got twenty playoff wins. Blakester nothing win.
Are people gonna get Chris Paul? How is Phoenix now
the second best team in the West. How it's the
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same crappy roster could win. This is a good opinion.
Dare I say a great opinion? This is why I
would argue and nobody agrees with me on this that
at the All Star break, if we're doing MVPs, you
have Lebron and Embid battling for the top spot. If
I had a ballot, Chris Paul would be third. Don't
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care what his stats say, don't care that he averages
in the low teens and points. This guy impacts as
much as anyone in the league not named Lebron games. Yeah,
you absolutely are correct. It is The gaudy numbers are
not there. But he is at He understands how to
control games, He understands how to help get the most
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out of his teammates. He is as good at the
end of games as anybody. Look, Oklahoma City last year
was supposed to be tanking. Yeah, he dragged them to
the postseason. Everyone was in love with the Suns because
they went eight no in the Bubble. They were so
bad last year that they went eight no in the
Bubble and didn't even make the play in game because
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their record pre Bubble was so egregious. He is the difference,
So this I won thousand percent agree with you on.
I think you can make the argument he is the
second greatest truly small guy in NBA history, behind only
the original Isaiah Thomas. And by the way, there are
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a lot of similarities to him and Zeke, which is
the numbers don't show you their true impact and control
of a basketball game. So when the Chris Paul thing,
I one thousand percent agree with you. I don't know
why Zach Levine and I got drive by it on
that set that aside, I agree with you a thousand
percent on cle. The minute that came out of my mouth,
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I felt terrible because Zach Levine's from the Northwest, so
I always kind of root for him, and you're my friend.
That was kind of the terrible thing to say. Yeah,
you're talking extemporaneously and sometimes stuff comes out you feel
bad about. It happens five years. By the way, when
you're talking about people being with you. I thought about
this April coming up April. It's me and my wife's
I should know this eighth year anniversary, but during my
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five year anniversary. How about that? You mean you've coming
on a boomy boom. Yeah, you and I five years
in April. Yeah, I'm not leaving you and you're not
booing me. That's something. It's something. I don't know what
it is, but it's something. I'll talk to you later,
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you get your podcast from. So a report came out
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Sunday ESPN that the Jets were reportedly in this word's
important intrigued by BYU quarterback Zach Wilson. Intrigued is a
keyword because intrigued means we're considering it, but we're not
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sure yet. I'll get back to that in a second.
So the Jets essentially put the house for sale, but
you're not sure which house, the Sam Darneld House or
the Number two Pick House. That's why they use the
word intrigued. It's very ambiguous. You go many different ways.
So when I saw the story, my takeaway was they
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were first softening the blow for Donald and his agent.
Hey guys, we're gonna move off you. Here's a little
heads up. Soften the blow before it happens or trade
talk starts. It was also, in my opinion, when I
saw the We're intrigued with Kyle Wilson, it was telling
the Bears, the forty nine ers, and the Washington football
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team call us and make an offer for Sam Darnold.
Now there may be part of this because they're probably
ninety ten or eighty twenty, was Zach Wilson. Where they're
telling Denver, Philadelphia and Carolina, why don't you make as
an offer for the number two pick? You need a quarterback?
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Maybe we'll listen there. This is putting the for sale
sign up. You're just not telling everybody quite what's up
for sale. And then today these stories leaked. Now it's official.
Now they're telling you what's for sale. Joe Douglas, the
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Jets general manager, according to Ian Rappaport, tells reporters he
will answer calls pertaining to potentially trading Sam Darnold. Brian Castello,
New York Post covers the Jets. Douglas says he'll answer
calls about Sam him. This is a departure from his
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stance last year in October that he said he was untouchable.
So Sunday they put the for sale sign up. Are
they selling the two pick or they selling Darnald? And
today they made it official. They are moving off Sam Darnold.
It's probably ninety ten, you know, eighty twenty. If they
don't get a good deal, maybe they move off it.
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If somebody like Carolina steps up and gives them the moon.
But they're going to move off Sam Darnold. I've said
this before. If I was I have my questions about
Zach Wilson. He looks skinny. I didn't see him beat
any good teams in college. But you know, either to
Josh Allen, I trust my eyes, he just doesn't. He
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doesn't look like a guy that's going to take over
the league. But you know what do I know Trevor
Lawrence does, Josh Allen does Herbert this year dead they's
big strong move Big Ben in his prime did us.
There's guys that they looked the part. You're like, oh,
that guy could take over the league. Um, you know
Deshaun Watson has moments. You're like, that guy should be winning.
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You know a lot of playoff games. So um, I
will say this is that I always I kind of
felt they would move off Darnold. And the reason was
simple is that new GM wants his quarterback and new
coach wants his quarterback. And in the end, and I
think this happens a lot, you just want a fresh start.
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I mean, you know, you moved to a new house
and you just want to buy some new furniture you want.
You want it to feel like like a new play,
even though you may not need everything. You're like, you know,
let's just get let's get a new couch, and let's
get let's get like, let's let's uh kind of redo
a bathroom. You want to make it your own. Joe
Douglas wants to make the team his own, and Robert
saul of the head coach, wants to make the team
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his own. And so they're gonna move off. Sam Darnold,
and I'll say it again, John Lynch of the Niners,
I know likes him. Chicago has foals Washington. This was
what I talked about a month ago. He feels like
a tough guy, very much a Ron Rivera fit. So
Sam Darnold, he's the house for sale. Make your calls.
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context to stuff, and I don't like this thing about
this whole label. You don't like Baker Mayfield Joey Taylor
as my witness on this show. I said I wouldn't
draft him a little bit too much off the field nonsense.
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But he's a franchise Quarterback's not mine. I said, his
ceiling is lower than everybody is saying. But he's a
franchise quarterback. His comp is not Drew Brees, that's stupid.
His comp is a better Case Keenum, to which people
were outraiged, And I said, Case Keenan went like eleven
and three one year when he had a good Minnesota team.
Case keenam complay. It's one of the best backups in
the league. Baker's better than Case Keenum, but they have
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similarities physically. They don't have a huge arm. Baker's got
a better case. They're not great athletes, they don't have
big size, but the guys can ball. Baker's better than him.
But that's his camp. By the way, when I said that,
I had a GM text mean he's like, you're right
on that. Nobody will ever give you credit. So yesterday
Kevin Stefanski came out and he said, I think Baker's
just gonna get better and better and better. And my takeaways, No,
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what you saw last year is his ceiling, and it
ain't a bad ceiling. He had the highest credited offensive
line the best running back duo, and they had an
easy schedule. They went eight no against the awful NFC
East and the mostly awful and dysfunctional AFC South eight no.
The other eight games they went three and five, and
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he completed fifty nine percent of his throws. Against the
NFC East and AFC South. He was eight no fourteen
t these two picks. So this year Cleveland schedule gets
way tougher. They faced Kansas City away, They're at Pittsburgh,
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at Baltimore, Cincinnati will be better. They kind of go
and go at the Chiefs, at the Chargers, at the Packers,
at New England and no more, no more Giants, Eagles, nonsense.
So what I said is, if you look at Baker's
numbers last year, they're put them up again. And you
look at Case Keenum's best year ever, same thing, same guy.
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That's it. That's all I've ever said. Now Baker is
better than case Keenum. But that is what I said.
As Comp was, everybody was saying, Drew Brees, you're sitting
as Comp's one of the eight best quarterbacks ever played football.
That's stupid, Drew Brees. They're never gonna be another Drew Brees.
They're never gonna be a never gonna be another five
eleven and a half six foot quarterbacks. The most accurate
quarterback ever to throw football. It's not gonna have it again.
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So anyway, I when I saw this yesterday and I
heard this, Oh this, he's gonna get a lot better.
Remember the minute you pay Baker. Can't have both running backs.
You can't have the best graded offensive line. You can't
have the most underrated wide receiver in the NFL, Jarvis Landry,
who's just unbelievable. By the way, the backup tight end
David and Joku now wunts out. You can't have all
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these stars on offense. And also because the defense is
so bad on the back end, Baker's always in these shootouts.
You can't have Baker dropping back. Last year when Cleveland
asked Baker to carry the team, when they said throw
the ball thirty five times or more, he's one and four.
So this again, Joy is here. This is not a
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shot at Baker. Lets let's contextualize this. It's not a shot.
I'm just saying what I've always said. He's a franchise quarterback.
His ceiling is lower than all the nonsense on the interweb,
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as they do on Wednesday. It's great heavy. George Taylor
is joining us. I am gonna defend Tom Brady righteously.
He said, I really know it's it's not really a
I can always leave with Brady, right, but yeah, we
can always say that Brady. Giselle is starting to get
under my skin. Oh okay, that's what we're doing. Yeah,
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what is it about women not letting us have fun
Oh okay, I mean life is I mean, you can
have all the funny. What. So Tom Brady was a
Super Bowl He's on James Cordon, right, funny talk show guy.
And he's on the show, and James Cordon asked him
about right after he won the Super Bowl, and here's Brady.
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All of a sudden, I see my oldest son run
over to me, dad, you know, and I gave big
high I saw my you know, my two little ones,
and all of a sudden, I saw my wife and
I gave her a big hug. And just as I
did it, she says, what more do you have to prove?
It's not about that. Let me speak for guys a little.
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It's not about that. Some of it's just it's fun
to hang out with guys and laughs and common rotterie.
When all these guys retire, they all hate practice, you
know what they miss just to laugh with other funny
alpha males and inappropriate, stupid guys in the locker room.
And we all got a little meathead in us. It's
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not about proving stuff. Gizelle's gonna model until, you know,
in her sixties or seventies. What does she have to prove?
Is she gonna get more beautiful? I don't know. She
just likes doing it. It's fun, fun to feel good
about yourself. You know. Here's something that I talked about
briefly yesterday, so coincidental, this was a topic. Twenty four
hours in a day. You sleep eight, that means there's
sixteen hours left in the day to do stuff. And remember,
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if you're a successful athlete, you're wealthy. And if you're wealthy,
wealthy people don't have to do the mindless crap you
and I do to fill out their day. Yesterday, Greg Twoey,
producer on My show, had a flat tire, had to
go to three tire store, still couldn't get it fixed.
Wasted two and a half hours. I was booking airline flights.
I'm on Delta dot com, I'm on the phone. Wasted
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ninety five minutes of my life. And Brady's not doing that,
James Harden's not doing that, Kevin Duran's not doing that,
Lebron's not doing that. They got a staff from the
time of season ends to the time camp starts. His
five months, he's got six homes, a private jet, and
a staff. That's sixteen hours a day. You can be
a great dad and a great family man. Is a
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professional athlete, and you can be a great professional athlete.
You can do both at the same time. Now, if
you're a CEO, I always say best jobs in the
world are great athletes. It's not a ceo. It's not
Elon Musk. Elon Musk is on the clock every day.
A great surgeon's on the clock every day, a great
attorney's on the clock every day. A CEO for our
company on the clock every day. Pro athletes get time off,
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They get time off. They get more free stuff than
other rich people. Tom braden't pay for anything. They have
free stuff all the time. So this idea that you
can be a great athlete or you can be a
great family person. He's got sixty now a day. And
by the way, by the time your kids get to
be fourteen, they don't want to hang out with you
all day anyway. Did you want to hang out with
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your parents when you were fourteen and fifteen? I didn't.
What is this rush to get Brady out of football?
What's this rush to get athletes out of football? Peyton
Manning retired. He is so bored. He's doing a comedy
show on ESPN Plus and another show where he watches film.
He's bored out of his mind. How many rounds of
golf can you do? Nobody's telling Meryl Streep, she's got
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to retire. Nobody's telling Hanks or Denzel they got to retire.
In fact, I went to the top five grossing bands
of twenty nineteen, Elton John mid seventies, Metallica. They're around
rolling stones. What nobody's telling them to retire? You can
be a great athlete and you can be a great
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family guy. It's not just about what do you need
to prove? That's part of it. You like to prove
people wrong. I like to prove people wrong. I had
a lot of doubters join. I would bounce around the country.
We've had critics and dowty. It's kind of fun to
stick at Tom. But in the end, this is fun.
We're off at noon. They have paid. Well, you're off
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at noon. You're never going to get this camaraderie back
when I retire. I'm not going to get a sit
in a room for two hours. I've said this before.
I like creating the show as much as I like
doing the show. I just like being curious and getting
ideas and building little rants. So I mean, Gazelle's great
and everything, but can we slow down on this. Tom
Brady's also a guy. He's Philip Rivers has a little
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bit of this in him. He likes practice. Brady's into
football practice. Most guys aren't. It's tedious. I briefly played
high school football. Football practice is hard. It's what I
grew up on the coast of Washington. It's wet, you
get hit, it's just it's just awful. Of course, I
was in small high school showers and it was, you know,
not great facilities. But a football practice is generally no fun.
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And Brady loves football practice, so I don't understand the rush.
He's got sixteen hours a day after how long can
you jet ski? How many times can you ride a
horse in Costa Rica? Football's fun and you know, and
it's really fun when you're winning Super Bowls. Don't give
it up. My theory on life, find stuff that makes
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you happy and do it over and over and over
and over again. And that's a great life. I tell
my kids all the time, what makes you happy? My
son loves tech. Do tech a lot, hang out with
people who talk tech. I hear him on his little
computer upstairs, laughing all the time. There's little buddies. They
can't be together during the pandemic. But they're just talking
about the silliest stuff. And I don't get any of it.
And it's silly to me, and it's tech stuff. It
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makes him happy. So do it over and over and
over again. Tom Brady, let me knock down a beer. There.
You got a little drunk one, little sideways off the rails.
But that's not who he is. Who he is is
a family guy and a football guy, and there's time
for both. Okay. So jj Watt, as predicted, has acknowledged
that a big reason he went to Arizona was like style.
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But one of the other reasons jj Watt went to
Arizona was Kyler Murray, the quarterback, and jj Watt said
as much yesterday. She's been a winner at every stage
of his life. And that's not a coincidence. You're a
winner because of the way that you work, and because
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of the aura that you give off, and because of
the talent that you have. And I think that he
has all of those things and he's going to continue
to win and continue to have success and that's a
part of the reason that I'm here. I told him
yesterday in Texas, I'm here because I believe in you,
and so I'm here. You have to have a quarterback
in this league to have a chance, and he's our guy,
and I'm looking forward to going out there and playing
with him. It's interesting when you look at the passing
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stats first year to second year, Kyler Murray approved a
little bit, and it reminds me of my phone bill.
I have a phone bill that's eight hundred and nine
hundred dollars a month, and that seems outrageous. And for
almost all of my life that was outrageous. But then
phones changed, and now my Rolodex is on my phone,
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my alarm clock's on my phone. All six kids have
a phone. I pay for wife's got a phone. I've
got a phone. I book travel on my phone, my
calendars on my phone. I buy food on my phone.
I order Christmas presents on my phone. So nine hundred
dollars from my phone bill used to be ridiculous. Now
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it's a steal. That's all I paid to do all
that in my phone. That's Kyler Murray. Don't look at
his quarterback stats you have to look at what he
provides that other quarterbacks can't and never did. If you
look at his quarterback stats, they barely went up, but
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you know went up wins five ten and one to
eight and eight. You know it up his rushing yards
and touchdowns forty percent. He went from twenty four touchdowns
total touchdowns with thirty seven, seventh best in the NFL.
The other six ahead of him are all great quarterbacks.
The six ahead of him are Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen, Brady,
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Russell Wilson Mahomes, Tannehill, and then Kyler Murray. He is
a non traditional quarterback. And my phone bill now isn't
like my phone bill for the first fifty years of
my life. In the last seven eight years, I do
so much with my phone. I feel like I'm stealing
it for under a thousand dollars a month. It's everything.
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It's my guest booker and my calendar, and it's my FaceTime.
I was telling Joy the other day outside of the television,
do you understand the value I get on FaceTime? I
talk to my kids every single day right next to me.
Everything's on my phone. I buy food, I buy clothes,
I book vacation. I do everything on my phone. I
watch movies when I fly on my phone. It's my television,
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it's my computer, it's everything. And so when you look
at kid, don't look at just the passing stuff. In
the NFL history, the league history, there's two quarterbacks who
have had twenty five passing touchdowns and ten plus rushing touchdowns.
He's one of them. He's a completely non traditional quarterback.
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And I agree with JJ Watt. You can win a
Super Bowl with Kyler Murray. You can. Don't look at
the passing stats he is. That's not what he's about.
That that's not just what he's about. There's another dimension
that's probably forty percent of his game that virtually nobody
else in league history can provide. Throw it and run it.
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He can do it with anybody ever in this league.
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Suns game last night. Devin Booker got thrown out, which
usually for Phoenix last year would have meant an automatic loss,
and yet they beat the Lakers. That's what now Phoenix
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does all the time because Chris Paul showed up. Chris
Paul after Lebron James, is the single most influential player
in the NBA. I know he's not cool or lit.
He's not even likable, and I love him. He's not
even likable. He's not vertical mid range guy. Phoenix hasn't
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made the playoffs in eleven years. The last three pre
CP three years, they were the worst team in the
West seventy four one hundred and sixty three. Chris Paul arrives.
They now are second in the West with the same roster.
Last night Devin Booker got thrown out. DeAndre Ayton said,
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Chris Paul took over the huddles. Here's what followed the CPS.
A guy's who who leads vocally. Man, he's always on
his shown us the little things on how to win,
the small details that count, especially today's game, um, you know,
losing the book. Uh, you know, he sat us down
in the huddle and made us made sure we ow
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when you have to do winning plays and you know
there's no mistakes, and you know when when the game's
junkie like this, you know, just to keep our head
and you know us as young playz you just want
to listen, and you know it's contagious the way I
approached the game, So you know it's a blessing. Chris
Paul joined your team, you win, he leaves, you lose.
Only other player you can say that about in the NBA.
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Only other player is Lebron James. Oklahoma City got rid
of him because they were trying to tank and he
made him win too much. He's the anti Zach Levine.
Zach Levine is vertical and flashy and hits threes and
bunches and gets hot and is streaky and is a
blast to watch. And his winning percentage is thirty one percent,
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lowest in the league for a player with three hundred games.
Zach maybe the greatest guy in the world. Never makes
anybody better. Two weeks ago, rookie Anthony Edwards had a
filthy dunk on the baseline plays to the t Wolves.
Twitter exploded, Oh my god, that's unbelievable. You know what
else was unbelievable. Anthony Edwards went oh for seven in
that game on threes, three for fourteen from the floor,
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and a plus minus of negative thirteen. That's also pretty unbelievable,
but hey, he was cool. Chris Paul's never cool. When
he was with Blake Griffin, all I heard for years
was he is holding Blake Griffin down. Since the divorced,
Blake Griffin has not won a playoff game. Chris Paul's
won twenty but he doesn't sell any issues of Slam magazine.
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I'm not sure he can dunk. There's a real John
Stockton quality to him. He's sort of annoying. He's not
always likable. He's kind of snarky and snarly at times.
He is Stockton, who I think is the third or
fourth best point guard, Magic's best. After that, we can
argue about all of them. But I love Chris Paul.
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I loved him at Wake four. I loved him with
the Clippers. I think he's as smart as anybody in
the NBA, not a shock many say his best friend
in the league is Lebron James. It's not as big,
as as strong, not as talented, but Chris Paul can
be on the cover of my magazines. Ed Norton's not
going to be on people either, as Don Cheatle because
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they have, you know, their act together. So does Chris Paul.
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(15:06):
your podcast from. Nick right now joins me, host of
First Thing. So let's start with this. I'm a little
upset with Gazelle Bungeing Supermodel because she said after Tom
won the Super Bowl, Brady admitted she came up and said,
what do you have to prove? And I'm like, it's
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not about just that, Like she's gonna be a supermowl forever.
She has nothing to prove. It's like if you are
great at something and you're well compensated. Nobody's running Rolling
Stones off the stage. Nobody's running Metallican Denzel off the stage. God,
why don't we rushed him to get rid of Brady?
The greatest American patriot, the greatest American football hero? All right? Uh? Yeah, Listen,
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there's two people in America that need to retire, Tom
Brady and Colin cowhurt, and both for me, Tom Brady
because I'm sick of him, and Colin Cowherd because I've
been drating for that seat for you, talked about the
years together with you for five years to keep signing
contract extensions. Yeah, I agree with Giselle and unlike listen,
maybe I don't think Denzel still does his own stunts.
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I don't you know the rolling Stones. No one's hitting
Mick Jagger with a guitar when he walks off the stage.
I think Tom should really consider it. I think the
you know, I heard Tom's interview with James Gordon talked
about throwing that trophy that could have gone terribly for him.
Walk off on a high note. Tom, I know nobody's
talking about it, but the more listen. I think Giselle
Bunchen makes some really really strong points, and I really
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once again, Colin, you ended last week's interview with a
non question question about Tom Brady, and you're starting this week.
There was no question there. It's just an excuse for
you to make me watch these highlights again, which I
don't want to watch. So can we please move on?
By the way, you see Nick's haircut to do Look
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how sharp Nick looks. He looks really good. Well, it's
desk because his wife does that for a living, right,
She's all right, all right? So I joy and I laugh.
About Dak Prescott, it's the story that won't end. It's
like that movie Gettysburg. It's like seven hours. I'm like,
could the story end with Dak? You have a belief
on how the Dak Prescott thing is gonna end? What
is it? Yeah? I don't know why it took me
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this long to have this epiphany. But Dak's not signing
an extension, and he's not going to sign an extension
because he shouldn't. So, Colin, here's the thing. From twenty
sixteen until twenty twenty two, do you know which NFL
player has guaranteed guaranteed himself the most money. It's Kirk
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Cousins one hundred and ninety two million dollars cash money.
Kirk Cousins will have been compensated from twenty sixteen through
twenty twenty two, unless the Vikings cut him in the
next twenty days. If he's on the roster by I
think it's March twenty seventh, next year's salary, meaning the
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twenty twenty two salary gets locked in fully guaranteed. And
it's because he played the franchise tag game in one
and so once you get franchise tagged the one time
at the quarterback position, if you can stomach it for
the second time, you are just essentially guaranteed to be
able to sign the perfect contract, which is what Cousins
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did the first time with the Vikings, and then he
was able to parlay that into a second contract with
the Vikings, both of which de facto fully guaranteed. So
I don't think Dak's gonna blink. I think Dak's gonna say,
you paid me thirty one million last year, you're gonna
have to pay me thirty seven million this year, and
then I'm going to be able to either sign with
you or with anybody on my terms. And so I
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think the Cowboys misplayed this hand. I think they believed
what to be fair to them. I believed which right
was right before last season, I thought Dak would blink.
I thought, right before last season, Dak would say, come on, like,
all right, I'll take whatever the best last offer is.
I need to get paid. And he didn't do it.
He didn't do it two years ago, he didn't do
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it last year. And now I think he has all
the leverage in the world to just say, franchise tag me,
that's fine, and then I'm going to get a four year,
hundred and sixty million dollars, fully guaranteed contract from somebody.
So yesterday I did something and nothing ever gets. In fact,
I predicted it on the show with Joy Taylor. I said,
this won't be contextualized and people will not understand this.
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We were talking about Dak's contract, and I said, if
you could pay people in order of what they're worth,
and the worth would be on talent and then on value.
Because let's be honest, Bill Belichick let go of a
lot of talented people. He never let go of super
valuable people. There's a big difference. I've worked with a
lot of people in my business who are talented, you
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get let go. Companies don't let go of valuable people.
So I said, the US offense is so bad schematically,
Seattle can't score without Russell Brady wins you Super Bowls.
We've watched the Packers without Aaron Rodgers. They can't win games.
And Josh Allen, let's be honest, they were twenty years
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of nonsense. He's their best running back and their best
quarterback in the second tier. And I knew this would
get people worked up. I put Mahomes and here was
my reasoning. I said, he's more talented than all of them.
But Andy Reids won thirteen playoff games without him. They
beat the Vikings two years ago, a playoff team without him.
They are so well coached, they have such good weapons.
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They would win games without him. They won the divisions
without him. They just wouldn't win any Super Bowls. So
his talent is an a plus. But in terms of
the franchise would be Titanic without him, No, they just
wouldn't be special. And everybody looked at that and went,
that is I'm literally canceling you. And I thought, is
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that an outrageous opinion. Yes, it's an outrageous opinion, okay.
And also I really like what you did there, which
is one of my favorite moves at the very beginning,
which is I'm being attacked for this opinion, not because
it's a terrible one, but because people don't understand how
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brilliant it is. I go to that move a lot.
It's not always correct. Sometimes it's I'm being attacked for
this opinion because the opinions terrible, and you have recreated
this Chief's dynasty pre Mahomes that didn't exist in the
Chiefs from Joe Montana's retirement until the day Patrick Mahomes
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started his first game. The Chiefs won one playoff game,
and it was against the Bill O'Brien coach team, so
I don't know if it counts. They won one Andy Rito,
he wins divisions. Yeah, and he won one playoff game
with Alex Smith, a single, solitary, very playoff game. And
and somehow you twisted the logic to where you could
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argue that Mahomes should be if you were just doing
it based on like salary, the Josh Allen thing, I maybe,
but if you're gonna have Rogers where he is, you
cannot have mahomes beneath him. So no, Colin, you were
not attacked for this because it was you know, you
got unfairly edited on Twitter. You were attacked for this
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because it's wrong, all right, And I you know, I
dare I say, I think you need to issue an
apology because I'm not for canceling people, but I think
this is cancelable, I really do. I think it's such
a bad opinion. And finally, you are more stylish than me.
I'm not real. You know. I'm an accountant who has
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a talk show. You know, I like business. Your board
of death with it. You. You've got a lot of
flash and sizzle. You're the Zach Levine of talk show host.
I'm the Chris Paul. But here's the thing. Oh, Chris
Paul goes to Phoenix. They were a mess forever. Take
Lebron out of the league. There's an argument to be made.
The only people that show up on People Magazine don't
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have their act together. They sell magazines. Don cheatle and
Ed Norton never end up on it. Chris Paul, similarly,
we don't talk about him. He's not good on YouTube.
He's not good on the highlights ever since Blake Griffin
and him divorced. He's got twenty playoff wins. Blakester nothing win.
Are people gonna get Chris Paul? How is Phoenix now
the second best team in the West. How it's the
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same crappy roster could win. This is a good opinion.
Dare I say a great opinion? This is why I
would argue and nobody agrees with me on this that
at the All Star break, if we're doing MVPs, you
have Lebron and Embid battling for the top spot. If
I had a ballot, Chris Paul would be third. Don't
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care what his stats say, don't care that he averages
in the low teens and points. This guy impacts as
much as anyone in the league not named Lebron games. Yeah,
you absolutely are correct. It is The gaudy numbers are
not there. But he is at He understands how to
control games, He understands how to help get the most
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out of his teammates. He is as good at the
end of games as anybody. Look, Oklahoma City last year
was supposed to be tanking. Yeah, he dragged them to
the postseason. Everyone was in love with the Suns because
they went eight no in the Bubble. They were so
bad last year that they went eight no in the
Bubble and didn't even make the play in game because
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their record pre Bubble was so egregious. He is the difference,
So this I won thousand percent agree with you on.
I think you can make the argument he is the
second greatest truly small guy in NBA history, behind only
the original Isaiah Thomas. And by the way, there are
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a lot of similarities to him and Zeke, which is
the numbers don't show you their true impact and control
of a basketball game. So when the Chris Paul thing,
I one thousand percent agree with you. I don't know
why Zach Levine and I got drive by it on
that set that aside, I agree with you a thousand
percent on cle. The minute that came out of my mouth,
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I felt terrible because Zach Levine's from the Northwest, so
I always kind of root for him, and you're my friend.
That was kind of the terrible thing to say. Yeah,
you're talking extemporaneously and sometimes stuff comes out you feel
bad about. It happens five years. By the way, when
you're talking about people being with you. I thought about
this April coming up April. It's me and my wife's
I should know this eighth year anniversary, but during my
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five year anniversary. How about that? You mean you've coming
on a boomy boom. Yeah, you and I five years
in April. Yeah, I'm not leaving you and you're not
booing me. That's something. It's something. I don't know what
it is, but it's something. I'll talk to you later,
all right, Buddy, Nick Wright. First things first, One more
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Sunday ESPN that the Jets were reportedly in this word's
important intrigued by BYU quarterback Zach Wilson. Intrigued is a
keyword because intrigued means we're considering it, but we're not
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sure yet. I'll get back to that in a second.
So the Jets essentially put the house for sale, but
you're not sure which house, the Sam Darneld House or
the Number two Pick House. That's why they use the
word intrigued. It's very ambiguous. You go many different ways.
So when I saw the story, my takeaway was they
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were first softening the blow for Donald and his agent.
Hey guys, we're gonna move off you. Here's a little
heads up. Soften the blow before it happens or trade
talk starts. It was also, in my opinion, when I
saw the We're intrigued with Kyle Wilson, it was telling
the Bears, the forty nine ers, and the Washington football
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team call us and make an offer for Sam Darnold.
Now there may be part of this because they're probably
ninety ten or eighty twenty, was Zach Wilson. Where they're
telling Denver, Philadelphia and Carolina, why don't you make as
an offer for the number two pick? You need a quarterback?
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Maybe we'll listen there. This is putting the for sale
sign up. You're just not telling everybody quite what's up
for sale. And then today these stories leaked. Now it's official.
Now they're telling you what's for sale. Joe Douglas, the
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Jets general manager, according to Ian Rappaport, tells reporters he
will answer calls pertaining to potentially trading Sam Darnold. Brian Castello,
New York Post covers the Jets. Douglas says he'll answer
calls about Sam him. This is a departure from his
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stance last year in October that he said he was untouchable.
So Sunday they put the for sale sign up. Are
they selling the two pick or they selling Darnald? And
today they made it official. They are moving off Sam Darnold.
It's probably ninety ten, you know, eighty twenty. If they
don't get a good deal, maybe they move off it.
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If somebody like Carolina steps up and gives them the moon.
But they're going to move off Sam Darnold. I've said
this before. If I was I have my questions about
Zach Wilson. He looks skinny. I didn't see him beat
any good teams in college. But you know, either to
Josh Allen, I trust my eyes, he just doesn't. He
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doesn't look like a guy that's going to take over
the league. But you know what do I know Trevor
Lawrence does, Josh Allen does Herbert this year dead they's
big strong move Big Ben in his prime did us.
There's guys that they looked the part. You're like, oh,
that guy could take over the league. Um, you know
Deshaun Watson has moments. You're like, that guy should be winning.
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You know a lot of playoff games. So um, I
will say this is that I always I kind of
felt they would move off Darnold. And the reason was
simple is that new GM wants his quarterback and new
coach wants his quarterback. And in the end, and I
think this happens a lot, you just want a fresh start.
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I mean, you know, you moved to a new house
and you just want to buy some new furniture you want.
You want it to feel like like a new play,
even though you may not need everything. You're like, you know,
let's just get let's get a new couch, and let's
get let's get like, let's let's uh kind of redo
a bathroom. You want to make it your own. Joe
Douglas wants to make the team his own, and Robert
saul of the head coach, wants to make the team
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his own. And so they're gonna move off. Sam Darnold,
and I'll say it again, John Lynch of the Niners,
I know likes him. Chicago has foals Washington. This was
what I talked about a month ago. He feels like
a tough guy, very much a Ron Rivera fit. So
Sam Darnold, he's the house for sale. Make your calls.
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FS one and the iHeartRadio app. I think I had
context to stuff, and I don't like this thing about
this whole label. You don't like Baker Mayfield Joey Taylor
as my witness on this show. I said I wouldn't
draft him a little bit too much off the field nonsense.
(31:35):
But he's a franchise Quarterback's not mine. I said, his
ceiling is lower than everybody is saying. But he's a
franchise quarterback. His comp is not Drew Brees, that's stupid.
His comp is a better Case Keenum, to which people
were outraiged, And I said, Case Keenan went like eleven
and three one year when he had a good Minnesota team.
Case keenam complay. It's one of the best backups in
the league. Baker's better than Case Keenum, but they have
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similarities physically. They don't have a huge arm. Baker's got
a better case. They're not great athletes, they don't have
big size, but the guys can ball. Baker's better than him.
But that's his camp. By the way, when I said that,
I had a GM text mean he's like, you're right
on that. Nobody will ever give you credit. So yesterday
Kevin Stefanski came out and he said, I think Baker's
just gonna get better and better and better. And my takeaways, No,
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what you saw last year is his ceiling, and it
ain't a bad ceiling. He had the highest credited offensive
line the best running back duo, and they had an
easy schedule. They went eight no against the awful NFC
East and the mostly awful and dysfunctional AFC South eight no.
The other eight games they went three and five, and
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he completed fifty nine percent of his throws. Against the
NFC East and AFC South. He was eight no fourteen
t these two picks. So this year Cleveland schedule gets
way tougher. They faced Kansas City away, They're at Pittsburgh,
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at Baltimore, Cincinnati will be better. They kind of go
and go at the Chiefs, at the Chargers, at the Packers,
at New England and no more, no more Giants, Eagles, nonsense.
So what I said is, if you look at Baker's
numbers last year, they're put them up again. And you
look at Case Keenum's best year ever, same thing, same guy.
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That's it. That's all I've ever said. Now Baker is
better than case Keenum. But that is what I said.
As Comp was, everybody was saying, Drew Brees, you're sitting
as Comp's one of the eight best quarterbacks ever played football.
That's stupid, Drew Brees. They're never gonna be another Drew Brees.
They're never gonna be a never gonna be another five
eleven and a half six foot quarterbacks. The most accurate
quarterback ever to throw football. It's not gonna have it again.
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So anyway, I when I saw this yesterday and I
heard this, Oh this, he's gonna get a lot better.
Remember the minute you pay Baker. Can't have both running backs.
You can't have the best graded offensive line. You can't
have the most underrated wide receiver in the NFL, Jarvis Landry,
who's just unbelievable. By the way, the backup tight end
David and Joku now wunts out. You can't have all
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these stars on offense. And also because the defense is
so bad on the back end, Baker's always in these shootouts.
You can't have Baker dropping back. Last year when Cleveland
asked Baker to carry the team, when they said throw
the ball thirty five times or more, he's one and four.
So this again, Joy is here. This is not a
(34:35):
shot at Baker. Lets let's contextualize this. It's not a shot.
I'm just saying what I've always said. He's a franchise quarterback.
His ceiling is lower than all the nonsense on the interweb,
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