January 7, 2019 • 39 mins
Colin isn't upset by the Bears loss because teams that are one sided shouldn't advance very far in the playoffs. He thinks the Cowboys win over Seattle was a classic Dak Prescott game where he is inaccurate but makes a big play when it counts. He describes where he was right and wrong over the weekend and Super Bowl Champion Trent Dilfer explains why Lamar Jackson and QBs that play like him will never win a Super Bowl. Presented by Perky Jerky.
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Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong? Joy Taylor joining
me and what will be our best show of the year. Now,
it's only like the seventh of January, so I don't
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have to compare it to a lot of shows, Joy,
but I think we're gonna have our best say that
we've done so far. Yeah, Okay, hope We're not going
to peak this early. I have so many things to
talk about today. I'm gonna wear everybody out. I'm gonna
wear you out. I've got so many things moving around
my head right now. I've given it so let's just
let me just start with this. I never bought into
the Chicago Bears. I picked Philadelphia to win this weekend.
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All year long, I was getting hate mail and hate
tweets and all stuff on my social media. You don't
get it. And I thought, blah blah blah. Of course
Chicago fans love their team. I never bought into it.
I thought it was a college offense. I thought it
was a lot of smoking mirrors. I called Matt Naggie,
the head coach of the Bears, David Copperfield, look over here,
look over here, and there's the quarter. And you know,
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I just didn't buy into it. So I don't have
a problem with them being out of the playoffs, because
my question is they shouldn't be a super Bowl team.
We don't want our super Bowl champ to this to
be the model where your ten best players are all
on defense. According to Pro Football Focus, and I think
that's a very good site. Chris Collinsworth on some of that,
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the ten highest graded players for the Bears are all
on defense, totally unbalanced. You want that to be the
model that wins in football. Do you think the NBA
would be in a better spot today if the Golden
State Warriors dynasty didn't have Durant Staff, Clay Thompson, Boogie Cousins. No, no, no,
it had four Dennis Rodman's who roughed you up, couldn't shoot,
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rebounded really well. We're great defensive players. There's a reason
why leagues modify rules to help offense, because it's hard
to score. Even Michael Jordan's shot only fifty percent. It's
hard to hit a baseball. It's hard to score in football.
New England is the current dynasty. They do everything well.
They're totally bounced. They're coaching is excellent, their quarterback is excellent.
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They always have a good running game, they always have
an efficient passing game. They have a situational pass rush.
But their defense once against top ten in the league.
Their special teams are excellent. They're really good at home,
but not terrible on the road. They do everything well.
So football is being rewarded by a team that values
everything and can do everything pretty well. The Bears do
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something like defense great and have a college quarterback. You
don't want that. That shouldn't be the model of it works.
If I was a commissioner in baseball, I'd make it
easier to hit a baseball. If I was a commissioner
in basketball or football, I'd make it easier to score.
Do you know what the average NFL score was this year?
And remember this is the big offensive year, right, This
was the year that all offense all on no defense.
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The average NFL score was twenty six to twenty three.
We should be helping the offense. And by the way,
most of the teams that are left Indianapolis, New England, Saints, Eagles, Chargers,
they play offense and defense. Dallas heavily leans on defense,
but at least they do have some offensive stars like Zeke,
Zack Martin, Mari Cooper. Kansas City leans heavily on offense,
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but they have d Ford, they have Chris Jones, Eric Berry.
They got good defensive players too. But Chicago is completely
absolutely unbalanced, and I never bought into them. I like football,
when coaching is rewarded, offenses rewarded, defense is rewarded, special
teams are rewarded, not against. It's nothing against this, but
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you do realize that Lamar Jackson and Mitch Trubisky, who
were really very similar, both lost this weekend because the
game is not built to have all your best dynamic
players on one side of the football. So I have
no problem with Chicago losing. By the way, the top
five scoring defenses now are all eliminated and out of
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football because they didn't do enough on the offensive side.
So I just never bought into Chicago. Listen, I trust
my eyes on this, and I think sports for fans
is better when it's artistic. It's better when hockey games
are four to three, not one and nothing. Baseball games
are better seven to six with a lot of base runners.
NBA games are better when Kevin Durant can score and
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not have somebody draped on him. And football is better
when I get a twenty seven twenty six game. My
team can play from behind Baltimore. Chicago is not very
good at it. My team can play with a lead.
That's New England, That's Philadelphia, that's the Rams, that's the Chargers.
Kansas City and Dallas are heavily weighted to one side
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of the field, but the Chiefs do have some defensive
stars and the Cowboys do have some offensive stars. Chicago
is ten best players on one side of the football.
I didn't lose any sleep watching them lose. I don't
root four teams or against teams, But I do root
for many elements of football because I love the sport
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being valued. That's nothing against Trent Dilfrey's on the show
Next Hour in the Ravens, but I don't want that
to be the model of football. That was one of
the most boring teams I've ever watched. Now, I also
don't need my teams to be the fastest show on
turf or Kansas City this year. But I never for
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a second bought into Chicago is the way to do
it in the NFL. And they lost because, frankly, like Baltimore,
they were completely unbalanced. And that's how seasons end when
you're completely unbalanced. All right, let me shift to this.
We had a good weekend. We went four for four
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inner picks. We took Indie, we took the Cowboys, we
took the Chargers, and I picked the Eagles to upset
the Bears. Now, the game I liked the most was Dallas,
and it was closer than I thought. But the first
thing I do when games are over, I go online
or I get a box score, and it tells me this.
If you just look at the box score, Dallas had
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over twice as many first downs as Seattle twenty more plays,
one hundred more yards, over double the rushing yards, almost
two yards more per run, and completely dominated time of possession.
You know what the box score tells you, because if
you watch the game, the game told you Russell Wilson
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is better than Dak, but the box score tells you
Dallas is way better than Seattle. This was a personnel mismatch,
and I'm surprised it was this close. Seattle did not
have a first down a first down until their fourth possession.
I said going into the game, Seattle's a great story.
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They're not a great football team. Dallas. We think of
them as dysfunctional. Jerry Jones can't win playoff games. They're
a highly functioning organization. This is an excellent roster, but
because of the limitations at quarterback, they have to win
a certain way. And the game went the way it
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needs to go. Zeke had a big day. They were
at home. Defense did their part, and then Dak does
what he does often, made one big play late. I
did like DA's run late. Of course, he wouldn't have
had to been a hero if he'd not thrown that
awful paths on the previous drive. But If you look
at the top ten players on the Seahawks and the
Cowboys roster, Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner make it for Seattle.
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The other eight best players Zeke Layton, vanderessh Amari Cooper,
Zack Martin, Tyron Smith, Jalen Smith, DeMarcus Lawrence, Byron Jones,
They're all Cowboys. Seattle has two great players, they are
not a great team. Dallas is loaded with a limited quarterback,
and I think increasingly this was actually a very classic
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Dak Prescott game. He was mostly uninspiring, his stats were mad.
He's consistently infuriating and inaccurate. But Zeke big day, defense delivered,
and he makes a play late. We've said from day
one about Dak it ain't pretty, but he has a
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certain personal resonance and calm in crisis. He tends to
be better with the game on the line than he
is in the first three quarters with just first downs
on the line. But I do think this weekend is
interesting because I think Dak Trubisky and Lamar are different
versions of the same quarterback. The difference is Lamar and
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Trubisky have a ways to go until they get paid.
Dak is about to get paid and hopefully once again,
Dak Prescott has the self awareness to understand there is
a recipe for Dak to win and those things all
have to work, and they all did this weekend home
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running defense make a big play late because it's decision
time on Dak real soon and he'll win a lot
of games. And Dallas is not dysfunctional. They're gonna win
a lot of games. They may win their division again
next year. But going forward, does Dak want wins or
let us? Because if he wants wins, this was classic DAC.
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It all had to work at home to not just
beat Seattle, but understanding that Seattle personnel wise right now
today isn't even close to Dallas. They're not look up.
Ten best players between these two teams. Wagner, Russell, Wilson
are in it. It is all cowboys After that, be
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and the iHeartRadio app. In football, you gotta be careful
of falling for the hot thing. A lot of people
fell for tebows. No no, no, no, no no no.
A lot of people fall you know, hey, Mitch Trubisky,
this college RPOs, that's not what wins in this league.
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Go look at the last thirty winning super Bowl quarterbacks.
It's mostly Hall of Fame guys who can throw it
from the pocket and can't run. There's a dilemma in Philadelphia.
They can't pay Carson Wentz and Nick Foles next year,
and they're gonna have to pay both. Wentz is better
than Foles. He's a bigger player, he's a better arm,
he's more of an athlete. He's absolutely a better quarterback talent.
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But Foles keeps winning. Foles is fog over the playoffs.
Foles has a Super Bowl. Foles he's eleven and two.
And this is what it comes down to. This is
something that with every gift the man upstairs give you
gives you there's a burden. Every guy would like to
be a little taller, you know, every guy would like
to be a little type nice. I'm six two. I'd
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love to be six four. I'd love to be six
but he's a little taller. I could, but there's a
burden with being that tall. Try traveling on a commercial airline.
Try finding shoes and clothes when you're six seven. Those
NBA guys can shop in about three places in America.
It's almost biblical. If the man upstairs gives you a gift,
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my friends, you will use it. People that sing in
the shower do because it sounds good. The man upstairs
gave him a voice, he or sheet. The man upstairs
gave Carson Wentz and very few others on the planet
all the gifts. Carson Wentz is six five two thirty
five A plus. His arm is a rocket A plus.
His mobility is an A plus. Cam Newton, Carson Wentz,
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and Aaron Rodgers are absurdly gifted by any historic quarterback standard.
And when you're given those gifts, you're a little less
patient in the pocket. You'll just go out and run.
You're slightly harder to coach. Sometimes you've got this hey,
I got it mentality. We've seen it with Rogers, we've
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seen it with Cam, and it's why Carson Wentz keeps
getting hurt. This is not to say Carson Wentz is
difficult to coach, but Nick Foles is easier because Nick
Foles is limited. He's not a great athlete, he doesn't
have a rocket arm, he's not very mobile. He accepts
coaching because he has to. He's more patient in the
pocket because he has to be. He's better priests nap
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at this point between the two because he has to
be the two best pre snap quarterbacks in my life,
for Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, they had to be.
They weren't great athletes. When the man upstairs gives you gifts,
you will use them. That is the burden of being
Cam and the burden of being Aaron Rodgers, and the
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burden of being John Elway. And that is the burden
of having Terry Bradshaw's arm. You're going to try to
throw it through a keyhole from thirty eight yards Alex
Smith never does. Nick Foles is not more talented. Carson
Wentz is your future. But when you watch the Eagles
play and Nick Foles throws it, you end up saying
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this a lot wow, what a catch. When Carson Wentz
throws it and you watch the Eagles, you end up
saying this a lot wow, what a throw. This team
does feel more like a cohesive team with Nick Foles,
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and they'll have to figure that out. But as Chris
Carter said this morning on First Things First, don't kid
yourself don't fall for brief lightning in a bottle. Whence
is the decade long talent going forward. I'm gonna give
you your hypothetical situation. He wins the Super Bowl, and
you know what I do. I recrup some of those
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picks and I shift him out of town because if
he does falls out of town, yes, absolutely, I get
you what you want. I get you some of those picks,
and I go with the quarterback. This's got the lower
cap number and it's got the higher siling. So if
Nick Foles has won you two super Bowls, let me
tell you something. He's tapped out. You think he's gonna
win a third way? I completely agree. This is football.
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One of the reasons it's so much better than every
other sport. It's complicated. I mean, we know the Warriors
are gonna win. They got more good players, but football
is it's tricky. You can have the best defense and
not win, and an average defense and win. But boy,
it helps if you have a great quarterback. But Dak
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Prescott wasn't as good as Russell Wilson and he won.
And who's the better quarterback? Tim Tebow looks like, oh
he's not very good. We thought he was really good,
and Mark Sanchez looked good and then he wasn't good.
And long term sustainability, Chris Carter is right. Wentz is
the better player. Over time, he'll get better better pre snap.
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But football is great because there are no easy answers
and falls and Wentz it's a dilemma. But Howie Roseman's
one of the smartest guys in this league running the Eagles.
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Colin was right, Colin was wrong, and here we go
where Colin was right. Well, I not only went four
and oh on the playoff games. What was really funny
is I brought three guests on my show Friday, and
of the twelve picks they disagreed with eleven. I'll give
you a S and these are three guests I love.
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I love these guys. Across the board. They disagreed with
virtually every pick guy made. Here's a sample. Nope, you're
done done Like Seattle, Prett likes him, you like him.
I'm leaning towards the Texans and here's why nobody who's
played in the Super Bowl has played in a road
game since twenty twelve. There's gonna be an upset this week.
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I'll roll the dice and say Philadelphia shocks the world.
Really yeah, so you and I are diametrically opposed on
every pick. Here's how it worked out. And by the way,
they all made really good arguments for their team. Sometimes
you get lucky. This week I got lucky four. No
where Colin was wrong. If Nick Foles beats the Saints
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in New Or, I'm bringing a white flag to the
show and just waving it. I surrender. I give up.
I can't. I mean, it's just incredible. The kid is loose.
He made some terrible throws. Now, I have said I
picked Philadelphia about a month left in the regular season
to make the playoffs. I love their GM. I think
they have a really good roster, their secondary. He's beat out,
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but there's a lot to like about this team playoff experience.
But Nick Foles is remarkable. I watched them in college.
He wasn't the best college quarterback in his own conference.
He's Every source I've ever had has said he's a really, really,
really high end backup. But he is now four known
the playoffs ten and two as a starter in Philadelphia.
And the thing I like about him in these late
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game situations he is completely composed. He is not rattled
in the least and I almost think that sort of
a DNA thing. Either you're anxious or you're not anxious.
I mean he he made all the plays on that
last drive. There is Carson Wentz could not have been
any better on that last drive. You can't even deny
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that where Colin was right. The rest of the world
was freaking out after that money Night game between the
Rams and the Chiefs. There's too much offense. It looks
like Canadian football. It's the Big twelve. I said, take
a deep breath. Wait until late December and early January.
The weather's gonna change. Defenses will figure it out, some
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of the offensive players will get hurt. Folks, you've been
watching football for four months. I've been watching it for
four decades. This is the way it always works. Offenses
look great in the first eight weeks, then guys get hurt,
the guys getting tackled, offensive players get hurt, and then
the backups aren't as good, and defensive coaches figure out
offensive schemes like Baltimore, and then the weather gets released
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surly and the offenses come back down to earth. Only Dallas,
with twenty four points, hit their season average this week
and half the teams didn't score twenty points this weekend.
Six of the eight teams this weekend didn't score a
touchdown in the first half. This is why you keep
tweaking the rules to help offense, because over the course
of the season, it gets really, really hard to score.
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In the NFL. Where Colin was wrong. There has never
been an NBA team that I have missed more than
the Minnesota Timberwolves. They fired their coach Tom Tibodet. I've
been telling you for three years, you just wait, Oh,
you just wait. Carl Anthony Towns, well now he's regressed.
Andrew Wiggins invisible. I mean, I have been waiting for
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the Minnesota Timberwolves to pop for three years and it
ain't happening. And Jimmy Butler got tired of it, and
I'm officially tired of it. And now they're tired of
their coach. Carl Anthony Towns, who I would have sworn
three years ago is going to be the best center
in the league is not the same player. Andrew Wiggins
is a nice kid, gives you eighteen you don't remember
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any of them. And I've just I mean, I've just
completely whipped on this franchise. They just never They're eleventh
in the West, not in the NBA, They're eleventh in
the West. I give up where Colin was right. I
think the thing I'm proudest of of this show is
most media people just react to what happened, and we don't.
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Sometimes we do, but mostly we predict. We watch the
games and we say, here's what's going to happen. And
a lot of times we're wrong. But I like that
our staff and our team has the guts to do it.
And we picked the Indianapolis Colts to make the playoffs
when they had a losing record, and we said, keep
your eye in Indianapolis. Andrew Luck is not getting touched.
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And we picked up on this about week six. We said,
this offensive line, they fixed it. He's got all day
to throw. They're not great defensively, but they're owning time
of possession. They're not turning the ball over. Luck's getting
rid of it early. And we said this team late September,
early October when everybody bailed on him. We said, this
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team's gonna make the playoffs. They're gonna sneak in, but
they're gonna go in a winning streak. And everything we
thought has happened. They're now a very good time of possession.
They start very quickly. And what happens is now that
defense with a lead can just rear its head back
and they've really created a really good pass rush. And
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Deshaun Watson was under you know, peril the entire game.
So when you get leads and you watch the Colts,
now they have nine draft picks, they're gonna draft pass
rushers and Andrew luck Is gonna have leads sitting on
the sideline and watch the Colts pass rushing specialists deteriorate
the opponents for the next eight years. We bought him early.
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Nobody else did proud of it. Where Colin was raw.
Doug Peterson got hired by the Philadelphia Eagles as head coach.
I said, he didn't even call plays in Kansas City.
How do I know he played? He played for Green Bay.
I remember that. But how do you go from not
calling plays to run in the Philadelphia Eagles. He's now
one of the best play callers in the sport. He's
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four for four on fourth down calls in the playoffs
as a Philadelphia head coach. And when Philadelphia, you had
that ball in the last couple of minutes yesterday, Joy,
and they were calling timeouts, and you're like, why at
calling timeouts this guy dials up plays. I was wrong.
He has been unbelievable and I gotta give him a credit.
In the middle of this year, he loses his quarterback. Okay,
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this is a second year in a row it's been
man overboard. I lose my star quarterback and he figures out.
I mean, this team was on crutches to start the
year they had. They were Green Bay. They had every
reason to be awful. They had every reason to go
into the tank, and Doug Peterson never stopped believing. They
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lost both times to Dallas. I put a white flag
in them both times. And they just keep battling and
battling and battling and overcoming. And Doug Peterson deserves a
ton of praise. You don't do what they did this
year with just players. Some of that's the guy wearing
the headset. Where Colin was right, Well, we said young
quarterbacks and mobile quarterbacks. We think you're going to have
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a rough weekend. We picked against Rabisky, we picked against
Lamar Jackson, we picked against Deshaun Watson. Now Russell Wilson
is also a good pocket quarterback, so I don't count him. Listen,
is it is a throwers league. That's not to say
I don't like my quarterback to have mobility. I wish
Philip Rivers was a little more mobile. I wish Tom
Brady was a little more mobile. But when it comes
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to January football, it's the quarterbacks that don't make mistakes,
that don't fumble, that don't turn it over, that can
get out of problems pre snap. Three of the four
younger quarterbacks lost this weekend. Where Colin was right. We
love the Golden Tape moved by the Eagles and the
Amari Cooper moved by the Cowboys. Both teams went and
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acquired playmaking wide receivers. Now Amari Cooper is better than
golden tape, a golden tate. They went and acquired him,
and he won the game for him on this play,
he was worth a playoff. W And the NFL has changed.
This is not baseball. It changes every year. Multiple times
wide receivers, especially veteran guys like Golden Tate and Amari Cooper,
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they come in, they learn a playbook very quickly, they
are amenable to coaching. They're just worth draft picks. And
you know, college receivers may be younger and cheaper, but
when you're as good as Philadelphia and you're as good
as Dallas, and you have those rosters and you've got
to win playoff games, now I'm gonna roll the dice
and give up picks to get an Amari Cooper and
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to get a Golden Tape. And Amari Cooper at over
one hundred yards and it took him about two weeks
to figure out the playbook, and they put Golden Tate
in and it took him about three weeks to figure
out what Philadelphia does. But we love both those moves,
and we loved him early, and they both were on
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Trent Dilford. All right, let's let's start with this Bears defense.
I didn't buy into him. I thought it was a
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lot of smoking mirrors. Offensively, I have my questions about
Mitch Robiski, and I don't think if your ten best
players are all on one side of the football, you're
balanced enough to win. I didn't buy the Bears. I mean,
what do you make of you can win Super Bowls
in twenty nineteen with just a great defense. What do
you buy with Chicago and not buy? I think those
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people that say that have their head in the sand.
It was obviously possible when we did in Baltimore. We
played fantastic defense, maybe the greatest defense of all time.
We're smart on offense, manage the game from the quarterback position.
I'd be the first to tell you that was what
my job was as Tampa did it a couple of
years later with a very good defense. I don't know
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if i'd call it great, but very good. Seattle did
it against the Denver Broncos. But outside of that, I
don't think you're ever going to see it again. And
I think the mistake everybody made on the Bears was
calling it a great defense. They're very good and they
have a chance to be really really good in years
in the future years, but by no means great. If
they were great, Philly doesn't go down the field and
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score a touchdown when the Bears have a five point lead.
It's that simple. People will talk about the kick, people
can talk about the kick return, all that stuff all
they want. The bottom line is, if the Bears played
great defense, Philly wouldn't have gone down with the backup
quarterback and scored a touchdown. So I'm with you, Callin.
I don't think there'll be a team that is completely
defensive centric that wins the Super Bowl. Again, the rules
aren't set up for it. I think the teams are
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forward thinking and the ones that we're going to see
in the Super every year or put more of an
emphasis on offense, on aggressive quarterback play, on creativity, and
I think that's bearing. I think the regular season will
bear itself out in the postseason even more as we
go forward with offenses having to apprehend all right, you
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know we've gotten to a point with dak Is. I
think there's a formula and all the boxes checked at
home running game, good defense, and Dak tends to play
a little better on the final drive than the first drive.
But I'm told you liked Dack this weekend. I thought
it was the second best quarterback in the playoffs this weekend.
Andrew Luck was Andrew Luck was phenomenal. Who else was better?
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I mean, Russell played well considering his circumstances, didn't have
a lot to work with. They knew they worked about
throw the ball against the Cowboys front seven with the
pass rush. Who else played well at the quarterback position?
Nick Foles didn't played very well to the last drive,
So don't use Nick Poles on me. Through two picks
when it was a red zone interception. Philip Rivers wasn't
very good. Lamar Jackson was awful until the end. Deshaun
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Watson wasn't very good. So who played better than Dak
besides Andrew Luck? And I don't disagree with you. We've
kind of been like minded on the Dak Presky. I
think you've been more sticking to a narrative of he's
the most overrated player on their team. I think Dak's
a winning quarterback in the NFL. I think like his team,
and I've said this before in the show. Is a
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low ceiling, high floor guy. But with this football team,
with the talent that they have, with maybe the best
runner in football is their tailback, They've been stubborn with
their play calling in a good way. The edition of
Amari Cooper. I think Dak Prescott's the right quarterback for
this team. I think he played very well. He's played
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very well the last few weeks. But also at the
same in the same sentence, cannot disgree with you and
say it's all been set up for him. This will
be a different challenge this next week. But up to
this point, Dak Prescott has been very good for the Cowboys.
I rely on you often texting on this show, calling
off the air about you know, evaluation of quarterbacks. And
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I said this earlier, is that many of the interception
leaders in NFL history had the strongest arms Brett farm
because it's the it's the burden of great gifts is
that if God gives you a singing voice, you're gonna
be singing in the car, You're gonna be singing in
the shower. Whence is remarkable, Falls is not. And the
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way I describe it is Falls is working there's a
symmetry between Falls and this staff right now, that's better
than wins in the symmetry with his staff. Because when
my eyes tell me, Wentz is way better than Falls,
but Falls wins more. What is it? So it's a
it's a bit one to dive into, and I think
both sides can be right. And I think what you
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are saying, and the argument you've created is absolutely correct
that when you get a guy that plays within the system,
that plays within the xs and oos, that recognizes his limitations,
that that adds a level of comfort to the play caller,
the coaching staff, they know exactly what they're getting every week.
And that has worked for the Eagles with Nick Foles
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the end of last year, obviously through the super Bowl,
and so far this year with Carson Wentz hurt. The
problem looking at this long term though, is that if
you talk to great football people, they will say, yeah,
but we want a guy that can play beyond the
axes and os and trust that the longer he plays
the position, he will learn to also play the majority
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of the downs within the axes and os. So what
you see with Nick Foles and I got him in trouble,
asks on the red zone interception. Anytime he tries to
play outside the axes and os, it gets him in trouble.
Carson Wentz plays outside of him too often, but also
makes spectacular plays. So what you're looking for is that
sweet spot, that balance of a guy that plays within
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the structure, plays a Bill Walsh in a Mike Holmegrand
type style of football war eighty five percent of the time,
do it exactly my way. But then the fifty percent
of the time I'm wrong, save my ass. And that's
what Carson Wentz can do. And those are the conversations
that Bill Walsh and Mike Holmegren had with Joe Montana
and Steve Young and other great quarterbacks. It's do it
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exactly my way until I'm wrong, then save me. And
that's why they're always gonna be on the Carson Wentz vandwagon,
not the Nick Foles because he can't do that. Yeah,
And I think that's why both sides can be right here.
They really can. But I guarantee you unless they win
the Super Bowl, that's when the discussion maybe really has
to change. But unless the Eagles win the super Bowl,
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this is Carson Wentz's team for the next ten years
and the Baltimore Ravens, and I agreed with them, made
a decision in that game that we're not switching quarterbacks.
What did they say, Trent Dilfer, by not switching quarterbacks
during that game? What did they what were they telling me? Yeah,
that was an organizational statement. I bet you the conversations
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that happened prior week in prior weeks with Joe Flacco
as well, like, Hey, Joe, no matter what happens, no
matter how far we go, no matter what circumstances come
up in a game, besides an injury, Lamar Jackson's our quarterback.
We're we're making an organizational decision to go into the
future with this guy, and we need to ride this
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as long as we can. And it may hurt us
at some point, and you know what, it did. It
hurt him in the first half against the Chargers. But
they were willing to take that chance. So that the
organization and mainly the fifty three guys in the locker
room understand that this is Lamar's team. This is gonna
be Lamar's team for a long time. And today, as
part of the journey of trying to get him to
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be a great player. I think the mistake that the
Ravens have made in this whole process one is not
honoring the greatest quarterback in the history of the Baltimore
Ravens is Joe Flacco a little bit more publicly. I
don't like that they haven't celebrated his career there a
little bit more. And being an ex Raven, being an
ex quarterback for the Ravens, all of us Ravens understand
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what Joe Flacco has done for that organization. He's been fantastic.
I think they should have honored him a little bit more.
And then other thing is I think they're making a mistake.
I don't think you can win a super Bowl with
Lamar Jackson type player. I think you can be really good.
I think you win ten games a year. I think
you can be in the conversation, but I'll be shocked
if the Lamar Jackson ever wins a super Bowl. By
the way, the Rams got rested. The Patriots had a
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week off. Kansas City did before I let you go,
you have played in playoffs, not rested and rested. The
buye week is an interesting thing. Players love it. But
if I was a hot team now the Rams, I
think needed a buy. You know, Patriots maybe didn't. Is
there any advantage to you getting the extra week or
sometimes is it a detriment. I think it's both. Again,
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I know that's a bad radio TV answer, right, I
think both can. I think both can be the answer
some teams needed. I agree with you, the Rams really
needed it. Some teams don't all the time. I think though,
if you're just giving a blanket statement at the end
of the year, your body hurts, You are fatigued physically,
you are fatigued mentally, and sometimes you need impress the
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reset button no matter how hot you are. And that's
where the buy is really really helpful, if the coach
handles it the right way where you don't lose your edge,
because you can't lose your competitive edge, but you can
get rest. It's amazing. Remember, every buddy, this is hard.
It's a hard sport. Your body hurts, your body rights
checks during the course of the season. Just a few days,
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a few days of treatment, a few days of rest
does an amazing thing to your body, your soul, your mind.
And I think that's why the buy teams typically have
an advantage. Good stuff Trent Bill for decade and a
half in this league, relying on regularly Super Bowl Cham
good talking to you a bud see everybody. Be sure
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the iHeart Radio app. I'm never going to jump out
of a plane. I want to look right at the
camera now. I'm never going to jump out of a plane.
But if I decide to jump out of a plane,
I'm not getting in the plane going up to ten
thousand feet and then chickening out, like when I'm make
a decision to jump out of a plane someday. And
I won't, but if I did, I wouldn't be one
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of those people that talks about it, prepares for it,
goes up and then chickens out some things in life.
If you make a decision, you got to go all in. Okay,
you can't pull Lamar Jackson in that game, stop it?
Why not pull Mitch Trubisky. When you make a decision
to run this offense, you are all in on this.
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The Ravens have acknowledged we're gonna draft quarterbacks going forward
that play like Lamar. We're gonna draft offensive lineman they're
a little smaller and a little little leaner, and and
they're a little faster when you make a commitment. And
I don't think this is sustainable to win a super Bowl.
I agree with Trent Dilfer. I don't think Mitch Trubisky
and Lamar Jackson, if they're gonna win a super Bowl,
it'll be the next two years because you're not paying
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him anything once you got to Pam and you can't
have a great defense around him. They're not winning super Bowls,
but you don't. This is so different. There is a
reason if you go to watch if you pay a
hundred bucks to go to a comedy show, they've got
a comic, any an opening comic, and then you have
the big comic. They don't have a poetry reading before
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a comic because you go to laugh. Okay, certain things
you go all in on. If you have Jerry Seinfeld,
you open, you have a comic that opens for Jerry Seinfeld.
You don't go, we're gonna have a punk rock band,
then Jerry Seinfeld, then a poetry. You go all in
on comedy that night at your arena. If you're gonna
go with Lamar Jackson and I don't know if I don't.
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To me, this isn't what I think when super bowls
over ten years, especially once you have to start paying
a quarterback like this twenty five million. You have an
average defense and you gotta win shootouts and you got
to play from behind. But you don't pull Lamar Jackson
and Mitch Trabisky because they've have a bad half. But
by the way, John always had bad halfs. Tom Brady's
had bad If you want to pull quarterbacks, tom Brady
was awful against atlant in the Super Bowl for two
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and a half quarters. That's a great point. You can't
pull quarterback. You gotta go all in on Lamar Jackson.
You gotta go all in on Trabisky. I wouldn't. I said,
Lamar's a second third round pick. You let him sit
for a year. You see if you can develop him
throwing and then he runs six seven times. But this
idea that you got to pull him because he had
a bad half of good hell, I mean, admittedly it's
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a very bad time to have a bad half. Yeah,
but that's those are the decisions that you may Hey,
Peyton Manning against the Seahawks and the Super Bowl, you
watch that game. I mean Tom Brady is the best
example of that. Tom Brady's career was over after the
first half of that Falcon Super Bowl. He was terrible watched.
It's the end of his career. The Patriots dynasty is over.
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I mean everyone called it. Be sure to catch live
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There are four games this weekend and the numbers are big.
Vegas thinks we're gonna We're gonna have decisive wins. Indian
Kansas City Chiefs favored by six, Dallas at Rams, Rams
favored by seven, Philadelphia at the Saints. Saints favored by eight.
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That's a big playoff number. Yikes. And then there's there's
that one game that seems interesting to me. Chargers at
New England, New England favored by four and a half.
That's the one that's very interesting to me. Okay, I
think it's a trap bet. Vegas is begging you to
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bet the Chargers. Vegas does this once in a while.
You see a number and you're like that what that
opened it? Five? You watch the Chargers push the Ravens
around for three and a half hours, and the Ravens
are the real deal. They're begging you to bet the Chargers.
I'll just say this, Tom Brady against the remaining AFC
quarterbacks is fourteen to no. Philip Rivers and seven against
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him Luzo and six and Patrick Mahomes and one. Secondly,
playoff football. What wins in playoff football? Best defense? Well, no,
the Bears just lost. Best quarterback always wins the game. No,
Russell Wilson lost a deck. Best roster not necessarily. I mean,
the Texans have a better roster today. I would argue
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that Indianapolis. You want to know what wins in football
in the NFL and playoffs, situational football. Philadelphia situationally was
great at the end of that football game. Dallas situationally,
Dak's run was great at the end of that football game.
Who's the best situational football team in the NFL? So
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that game, when I see all these lines New England,
I guess the lines in that game, I'm like, man,
that's a pick them. I don't know. It started at
five at feels like a trap game. Just remember this,
don't get caught up on the stuff that doesn't matter
in this league. It's gonna be snowing and twenty eight
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degrees in Foxborough. Remember that this game is not gonna
be pretty. It could very well be just running game,
running game. You think Brady and Rivers gonna be a
it's gonna be a fireworkshow my guess is it is
low scoring situational football. That's my gut feeling. I do
like New England in that spot.
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Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong? Joy Taylor joining
me and what will be our best show of the year. Now,
it's only like the seventh of January, so I don't
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have to compare it to a lot of shows, Joy,
but I think we're gonna have our best say that
we've done so far. Yeah, Okay, hope We're not going
to peak this early. I have so many things to
talk about today. I'm gonna wear everybody out. I'm gonna
wear you out. I've got so many things moving around
my head right now. I've given it so let's just
let me just start with this. I never bought into
the Chicago Bears. I picked Philadelphia to win this weekend.
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All year long, I was getting hate mail and hate
tweets and all stuff on my social media. You don't
get it. And I thought, blah blah blah. Of course
Chicago fans love their team. I never bought into it.
I thought it was a college offense. I thought it
was a lot of smoking mirrors. I called Matt Naggie,
the head coach of the Bears, David Copperfield, look over here,
look over here, and there's the quarter. And you know,
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I just didn't buy into it. So I don't have
a problem with them being out of the playoffs, because
my question is they shouldn't be a super Bowl team.
We don't want our super Bowl champ to this to
be the model where your ten best players are all
on defense. According to Pro Football Focus, and I think
that's a very good site. Chris Collinsworth on some of that,
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the ten highest graded players for the Bears are all
on defense, totally unbalanced. You want that to be the
model that wins in football. Do you think the NBA
would be in a better spot today if the Golden
State Warriors dynasty didn't have Durant Staff, Clay Thompson, Boogie Cousins. No, no, no,
it had four Dennis Rodman's who roughed you up, couldn't shoot,
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rebounded really well. We're great defensive players. There's a reason
why leagues modify rules to help offense, because it's hard
to score. Even Michael Jordan's shot only fifty percent. It's
hard to hit a baseball. It's hard to score in football.
New England is the current dynasty. They do everything well.
They're totally bounced. They're coaching is excellent, their quarterback is excellent.
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They always have a good running game, they always have
an efficient passing game. They have a situational pass rush.
But their defense once against top ten in the league.
Their special teams are excellent. They're really good at home,
but not terrible on the road. They do everything well.
So football is being rewarded by a team that values
everything and can do everything pretty well. The Bears do
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something like defense great and have a college quarterback. You
don't want that. That shouldn't be the model of it works.
If I was a commissioner in baseball, I'd make it
easier to hit a baseball. If I was a commissioner
in basketball or football, I'd make it easier to score.
Do you know what the average NFL score was this year?
And remember this is the big offensive year, right, This
was the year that all offense all on no defense.
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The average NFL score was twenty six to twenty three.
We should be helping the offense. And by the way,
most of the teams that are left Indianapolis, New England, Saints, Eagles, Chargers,
they play offense and defense. Dallas heavily leans on defense,
but at least they do have some offensive stars like Zeke,
Zack Martin, Mari Cooper. Kansas City leans heavily on offense,
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but they have d Ford, they have Chris Jones, Eric Berry.
They got good defensive players too. But Chicago is completely
absolutely unbalanced, and I never bought into them. I like football,
when coaching is rewarded, offenses rewarded, defense is rewarded, special
teams are rewarded, not against. It's nothing against this, but
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you do realize that Lamar Jackson and Mitch Trubisky, who
were really very similar, both lost this weekend because the
game is not built to have all your best dynamic
players on one side of the football. So I have
no problem with Chicago losing. By the way, the top
five scoring defenses now are all eliminated and out of
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football because they didn't do enough on the offensive side.
So I just never bought into Chicago. Listen, I trust
my eyes on this, and I think sports for fans
is better when it's artistic. It's better when hockey games
are four to three, not one and nothing. Baseball games
are better seven to six with a lot of base runners.
NBA games are better when Kevin Durant can score and
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not have somebody draped on him. And football is better
when I get a twenty seven twenty six game. My
team can play from behind Baltimore. Chicago is not very
good at it. My team can play with a lead.
That's New England, That's Philadelphia, that's the Rams, that's the Chargers.
Kansas City and Dallas are heavily weighted to one side
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of the field, but the Chiefs do have some defensive
stars and the Cowboys do have some offensive stars. Chicago
is ten best players on one side of the football.
I didn't lose any sleep watching them lose. I don't
root four teams or against teams, But I do root
for many elements of football because I love the sport
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being valued. That's nothing against Trent Dilfrey's on the show
Next Hour in the Ravens, but I don't want that
to be the model of football. That was one of
the most boring teams I've ever watched. Now, I also
don't need my teams to be the fastest show on
turf or Kansas City this year. But I never for
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a second bought into Chicago is the way to do
it in the NFL. And they lost because, frankly, like Baltimore,
they were completely unbalanced. And that's how seasons end when
you're completely unbalanced. All right, let me shift to this.
We had a good weekend. We went four for four
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inner picks. We took Indie, we took the Cowboys, we
took the Chargers, and I picked the Eagles to upset
the Bears. Now, the game I liked the most was Dallas,
and it was closer than I thought. But the first
thing I do when games are over, I go online
or I get a box score, and it tells me this.
If you just look at the box score, Dallas had
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over twice as many first downs as Seattle twenty more plays,
one hundred more yards, over double the rushing yards, almost
two yards more per run, and completely dominated time of possession.
You know what the box score tells you, because if
you watch the game, the game told you Russell Wilson
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is better than Dak, but the box score tells you
Dallas is way better than Seattle. This was a personnel mismatch,
and I'm surprised it was this close. Seattle did not
have a first down a first down until their fourth possession.
I said going into the game, Seattle's a great story.
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They're not a great football team. Dallas. We think of
them as dysfunctional. Jerry Jones can't win playoff games. They're
a highly functioning organization. This is an excellent roster, but
because of the limitations at quarterback, they have to win
a certain way. And the game went the way it
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needs to go. Zeke had a big day. They were
at home. Defense did their part, and then Dak does
what he does often, made one big play late. I
did like DA's run late. Of course, he wouldn't have
had to been a hero if he'd not thrown that
awful paths on the previous drive. But If you look
at the top ten players on the Seahawks and the
Cowboys roster, Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner make it for Seattle.
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The other eight best players Zeke Layton, vanderessh Amari Cooper,
Zack Martin, Tyron Smith, Jalen Smith, DeMarcus Lawrence, Byron Jones,
They're all Cowboys. Seattle has two great players, they are
not a great team. Dallas is loaded with a limited quarterback,
and I think increasingly this was actually a very classic
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Dak Prescott game. He was mostly uninspiring, his stats were mad.
He's consistently infuriating and inaccurate. But Zeke big day, defense delivered,
and he makes a play late. We've said from day
one about Dak it ain't pretty, but he has a
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certain personal resonance and calm in crisis. He tends to
be better with the game on the line than he
is in the first three quarters with just first downs
on the line. But I do think this weekend is
interesting because I think Dak Trubisky and Lamar are different
versions of the same quarterback. The difference is Lamar and
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Trubisky have a ways to go until they get paid.
Dak is about to get paid and hopefully once again,
Dak Prescott has the self awareness to understand there is
a recipe for Dak to win and those things all
have to work, and they all did this weekend home
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running defense make a big play late because it's decision
time on Dak real soon and he'll win a lot
of games. And Dallas is not dysfunctional. They're gonna win
a lot of games. They may win their division again
next year. But going forward, does Dak want wins or
let us? Because if he wants wins, this was classic DAC.
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It all had to work at home to not just
beat Seattle, but understanding that Seattle personnel wise right now
today isn't even close to Dallas. They're not look up.
Ten best players between these two teams. Wagner, Russell, Wilson
are in it. It is all cowboys After that, be
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sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in
noon Easter not Ampacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one
and the iHeartRadio app. In football, you gotta be careful
of falling for the hot thing. A lot of people
fell for tebows. No no, no, no, no no no.
A lot of people fall you know, hey, Mitch Trubisky,
this college RPOs, that's not what wins in this league.
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Go look at the last thirty winning super Bowl quarterbacks.
It's mostly Hall of Fame guys who can throw it
from the pocket and can't run. There's a dilemma in Philadelphia.
They can't pay Carson Wentz and Nick Foles next year,
and they're gonna have to pay both. Wentz is better
than Foles. He's a bigger player, he's a better arm,
he's more of an athlete. He's absolutely a better quarterback talent.
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But Foles keeps winning. Foles is fog over the playoffs.
Foles has a Super Bowl. Foles he's eleven and two.
And this is what it comes down to. This is
something that with every gift the man upstairs give you
gives you there's a burden. Every guy would like to
be a little taller, you know, every guy would like
to be a little type nice. I'm six two. I'd
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love to be six four. I'd love to be six
but he's a little taller. I could, but there's a
burden with being that tall. Try traveling on a commercial airline.
Try finding shoes and clothes when you're six seven. Those
NBA guys can shop in about three places in America.
It's almost biblical. If the man upstairs gives you a gift,
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my friends, you will use it. People that sing in
the shower do because it sounds good. The man upstairs
gave him a voice, he or sheet. The man upstairs
gave Carson Wentz and very few others on the planet
all the gifts. Carson Wentz is six five two thirty
five A plus. His arm is a rocket A plus.
His mobility is an A plus. Cam Newton, Carson Wentz,
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and Aaron Rodgers are absurdly gifted by any historic quarterback standard.
And when you're given those gifts, you're a little less
patient in the pocket. You'll just go out and run.
You're slightly harder to coach. Sometimes you've got this hey,
I got it mentality. We've seen it with Rogers, we've
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seen it with Cam, and it's why Carson Wentz keeps
getting hurt. This is not to say Carson Wentz is
difficult to coach, but Nick Foles is easier because Nick
Foles is limited. He's not a great athlete, he doesn't
have a rocket arm, he's not very mobile. He accepts
coaching because he has to. He's more patient in the
pocket because he has to be. He's better priests nap
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at this point between the two because he has to
be the two best pre snap quarterbacks in my life,
for Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, they had to be.
They weren't great athletes. When the man upstairs gives you gifts,
you will use them. That is the burden of being
Cam and the burden of being Aaron Rodgers, and the
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burden of being John Elway. And that is the burden
of having Terry Bradshaw's arm. You're going to try to
throw it through a keyhole from thirty eight yards Alex
Smith never does. Nick Foles is not more talented. Carson
Wentz is your future. But when you watch the Eagles
play and Nick Foles throws it, you end up saying
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this a lot wow, what a catch. When Carson Wentz
throws it and you watch the Eagles, you end up
saying this a lot wow, what a throw. This team
does feel more like a cohesive team with Nick Foles,
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and they'll have to figure that out. But as Chris
Carter said this morning on First Things First, don't kid
yourself don't fall for brief lightning in a bottle. Whence
is the decade long talent going forward. I'm gonna give
you your hypothetical situation. He wins the Super Bowl, and
you know what I do. I recrup some of those
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picks and I shift him out of town because if
he does falls out of town, yes, absolutely, I get
you what you want. I get you some of those picks,
and I go with the quarterback. This's got the lower
cap number and it's got the higher siling. So if
Nick Foles has won you two super Bowls, let me
tell you something. He's tapped out. You think he's gonna
win a third way? I completely agree. This is football.
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One of the reasons it's so much better than every
other sport. It's complicated. I mean, we know the Warriors
are gonna win. They got more good players, but football
is it's tricky. You can have the best defense and
not win, and an average defense and win. But boy,
it helps if you have a great quarterback. But Dak
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Prescott wasn't as good as Russell Wilson and he won.
And who's the better quarterback? Tim Tebow looks like, oh
he's not very good. We thought he was really good,
and Mark Sanchez looked good and then he wasn't good.
And long term sustainability, Chris Carter is right. Wentz is
the better player. Over time, he'll get better better pre snap.
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But football is great because there are no easy answers
and falls and Wentz it's a dilemma. But Howie Roseman's
one of the smartest guys in this league running the Eagles.
They will choose Wentz. Be sure to catch live editions
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Colin was right, Colin was wrong, and here we go
where Colin was right. Well, I not only went four
and oh on the playoff games. What was really funny
is I brought three guests on my show Friday, and
of the twelve picks they disagreed with eleven. I'll give
you a S and these are three guests I love.
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I love these guys. Across the board. They disagreed with
virtually every pick guy made. Here's a sample. Nope, you're
done done Like Seattle, Prett likes him, you like him.
I'm leaning towards the Texans and here's why nobody who's
played in the Super Bowl has played in a road
game since twenty twelve. There's gonna be an upset this week.
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I'll roll the dice and say Philadelphia shocks the world.
Really yeah, so you and I are diametrically opposed on
every pick. Here's how it worked out. And by the way,
they all made really good arguments for their team. Sometimes
you get lucky. This week I got lucky four. No
where Colin was wrong. If Nick Foles beats the Saints
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in New Or, I'm bringing a white flag to the
show and just waving it. I surrender. I give up.
I can't. I mean, it's just incredible. The kid is loose.
He made some terrible throws. Now, I have said I
picked Philadelphia about a month left in the regular season
to make the playoffs. I love their GM. I think
they have a really good roster, their secondary. He's beat out,
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but there's a lot to like about this team playoff experience.
But Nick Foles is remarkable. I watched them in college.
He wasn't the best college quarterback in his own conference.
He's Every source I've ever had has said he's a really, really,
really high end backup. But he is now four known
the playoffs ten and two as a starter in Philadelphia.
And the thing I like about him in these late
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game situations he is completely composed. He is not rattled
in the least and I almost think that sort of
a DNA thing. Either you're anxious or you're not anxious.
I mean he he made all the plays on that
last drive. There is Carson Wentz could not have been
any better on that last drive. You can't even deny
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that where Colin was right. The rest of the world
was freaking out after that money Night game between the
Rams and the Chiefs. There's too much offense. It looks
like Canadian football. It's the Big twelve. I said, take
a deep breath. Wait until late December and early January.
The weather's gonna change. Defenses will figure it out, some
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of the offensive players will get hurt. Folks, you've been
watching football for four months. I've been watching it for
four decades. This is the way it always works. Offenses
look great in the first eight weeks, then guys get hurt,
the guys getting tackled, offensive players get hurt, and then
the backups aren't as good, and defensive coaches figure out
offensive schemes like Baltimore, and then the weather gets released
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surly and the offenses come back down to earth. Only Dallas,
with twenty four points, hit their season average this week
and half the teams didn't score twenty points this weekend.
Six of the eight teams this weekend didn't score a
touchdown in the first half. This is why you keep
tweaking the rules to help offense, because over the course
of the season, it gets really, really hard to score.
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In the NFL. Where Colin was wrong. There has never
been an NBA team that I have missed more than
the Minnesota Timberwolves. They fired their coach Tom Tibodet. I've
been telling you for three years, you just wait, Oh,
you just wait. Carl Anthony Towns, well now he's regressed.
Andrew Wiggins invisible. I mean, I have been waiting for
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the Minnesota Timberwolves to pop for three years and it
ain't happening. And Jimmy Butler got tired of it, and
I'm officially tired of it. And now they're tired of
their coach. Carl Anthony Towns, who I would have sworn
three years ago is going to be the best center
in the league is not the same player. Andrew Wiggins
is a nice kid, gives you eighteen you don't remember
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any of them. And I've just I mean, I've just
completely whipped on this franchise. They just never They're eleventh
in the West, not in the NBA, They're eleventh in
the West. I give up where Colin was right. I
think the thing I'm proudest of of this show is
most media people just react to what happened, and we don't.
(20:09):
Sometimes we do, but mostly we predict. We watch the
games and we say, here's what's going to happen. And
a lot of times we're wrong. But I like that
our staff and our team has the guts to do it.
And we picked the Indianapolis Colts to make the playoffs
when they had a losing record, and we said, keep
your eye in Indianapolis. Andrew Luck is not getting touched.
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And we picked up on this about week six. We said,
this offensive line, they fixed it. He's got all day
to throw. They're not great defensively, but they're owning time
of possession. They're not turning the ball over. Luck's getting
rid of it early. And we said this team late September,
early October when everybody bailed on him. We said, this
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team's gonna make the playoffs. They're gonna sneak in, but
they're gonna go in a winning streak. And everything we
thought has happened. They're now a very good time of possession.
They start very quickly. And what happens is now that
defense with a lead can just rear its head back
and they've really created a really good pass rush. And
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Deshaun Watson was under you know, peril the entire game.
So when you get leads and you watch the Colts,
now they have nine draft picks, they're gonna draft pass
rushers and Andrew luck Is gonna have leads sitting on
the sideline and watch the Colts pass rushing specialists deteriorate
the opponents for the next eight years. We bought him early.
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Nobody else did proud of it. Where Colin was raw.
Doug Peterson got hired by the Philadelphia Eagles as head coach.
I said, he didn't even call plays in Kansas City.
How do I know he played? He played for Green Bay.
I remember that. But how do you go from not
calling plays to run in the Philadelphia Eagles. He's now
one of the best play callers in the sport. He's
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four for four on fourth down calls in the playoffs
as a Philadelphia head coach. And when Philadelphia, you had
that ball in the last couple of minutes yesterday, Joy,
and they were calling timeouts, and you're like, why at
calling timeouts this guy dials up plays. I was wrong.
He has been unbelievable and I gotta give him a credit.
In the middle of this year, he loses his quarterback. Okay,
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this is a second year in a row it's been
man overboard. I lose my star quarterback and he figures out.
I mean, this team was on crutches to start the
year they had. They were Green Bay. They had every
reason to be awful. They had every reason to go
into the tank, and Doug Peterson never stopped believing. They
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lost both times to Dallas. I put a white flag
in them both times. And they just keep battling and
battling and battling and overcoming. And Doug Peterson deserves a
ton of praise. You don't do what they did this
year with just players. Some of that's the guy wearing
the headset. Where Colin was right, Well, we said young
quarterbacks and mobile quarterbacks. We think you're going to have
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a rough weekend. We picked against Rabisky, we picked against
Lamar Jackson, we picked against Deshaun Watson. Now Russell Wilson
is also a good pocket quarterback, so I don't count him. Listen,
is it is a throwers league. That's not to say
I don't like my quarterback to have mobility. I wish
Philip Rivers was a little more mobile. I wish Tom
Brady was a little more mobile. But when it comes
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to January football, it's the quarterbacks that don't make mistakes,
that don't fumble, that don't turn it over, that can
get out of problems pre snap. Three of the four
younger quarterbacks lost this weekend. Where Colin was right. We
love the Golden Tape moved by the Eagles and the
Amari Cooper moved by the Cowboys. Both teams went and
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acquired playmaking wide receivers. Now Amari Cooper is better than
golden tape, a golden tate. They went and acquired him,
and he won the game for him on this play,
he was worth a playoff. W And the NFL has changed.
This is not baseball. It changes every year. Multiple times
wide receivers, especially veteran guys like Golden Tate and Amari Cooper,
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they come in, they learn a playbook very quickly, they
are amenable to coaching. They're just worth draft picks. And
you know, college receivers may be younger and cheaper, but
when you're as good as Philadelphia and you're as good
as Dallas, and you have those rosters and you've got
to win playoff games, now I'm gonna roll the dice
and give up picks to get an Amari Cooper and
(24:26):
to get a Golden Tape. And Amari Cooper at over
one hundred yards and it took him about two weeks
to figure out the playbook, and they put Golden Tate
in and it took him about three weeks to figure
out what Philadelphia does. But we love both those moves,
and we loved him early, and they both were on
full display this weekend. One More Herd. The Herd streams
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Trent Dilford. All right, let's let's start with this Bears defense.
I didn't buy into him. I thought it was a
(25:08):
lot of smoking mirrors. Offensively, I have my questions about
Mitch Robiski, and I don't think if your ten best
players are all on one side of the football, you're
balanced enough to win. I didn't buy the Bears. I mean,
what do you make of you can win Super Bowls
in twenty nineteen with just a great defense. What do
you buy with Chicago and not buy? I think those
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people that say that have their head in the sand.
It was obviously possible when we did in Baltimore. We
played fantastic defense, maybe the greatest defense of all time.
We're smart on offense, manage the game from the quarterback position.
I'd be the first to tell you that was what
my job was as Tampa did it a couple of
years later with a very good defense. I don't know
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if i'd call it great, but very good. Seattle did
it against the Denver Broncos. But outside of that, I
don't think you're ever going to see it again. And
I think the mistake everybody made on the Bears was
calling it a great defense. They're very good and they
have a chance to be really really good in years
in the future years, but by no means great. If
they were great, Philly doesn't go down the field and
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score a touchdown when the Bears have a five point lead.
It's that simple. People will talk about the kick, people
can talk about the kick return, all that stuff all
they want. The bottom line is, if the Bears played
great defense, Philly wouldn't have gone down with the backup
quarterback and scored a touchdown. So I'm with you, Callin.
I don't think there'll be a team that is completely
defensive centric that wins the Super Bowl. Again, the rules
aren't set up for it. I think the teams are
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forward thinking and the ones that we're going to see
in the Super every year or put more of an
emphasis on offense, on aggressive quarterback play, on creativity, and
I think that's bearing. I think the regular season will
bear itself out in the postseason even more as we
go forward with offenses having to apprehend all right, you
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know we've gotten to a point with dak Is. I
think there's a formula and all the boxes checked at
home running game, good defense, and Dak tends to play
a little better on the final drive than the first drive.
But I'm told you liked Dack this weekend. I thought
it was the second best quarterback in the playoffs this weekend.
Andrew Luck was Andrew Luck was phenomenal. Who else was better?
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I mean, Russell played well considering his circumstances, didn't have
a lot to work with. They knew they worked about
throw the ball against the Cowboys front seven with the
pass rush. Who else played well at the quarterback position?
Nick Foles didn't played very well to the last drive,
So don't use Nick Poles on me. Through two picks
when it was a red zone interception. Philip Rivers wasn't
very good. Lamar Jackson was awful until the end. Deshaun
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Watson wasn't very good. So who played better than Dak
besides Andrew Luck? And I don't disagree with you. We've
kind of been like minded on the Dak Presky. I
think you've been more sticking to a narrative of he's
the most overrated player on their team. I think Dak's
a winning quarterback in the NFL. I think like his team,
and I've said this before in the show. Is a
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low ceiling, high floor guy. But with this football team,
with the talent that they have, with maybe the best
runner in football is their tailback, They've been stubborn with
their play calling in a good way. The edition of
Amari Cooper. I think Dak Prescott's the right quarterback for
this team. I think he played very well. He's played
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very well the last few weeks. But also at the
same in the same sentence, cannot disgree with you and
say it's all been set up for him. This will
be a different challenge this next week. But up to
this point, Dak Prescott has been very good for the Cowboys.
I rely on you often texting on this show, calling
off the air about you know, evaluation of quarterbacks. And
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I said this earlier, is that many of the interception
leaders in NFL history had the strongest arms Brett farm
because it's the it's the burden of great gifts is
that if God gives you a singing voice, you're gonna
be singing in the car, You're gonna be singing in
the shower. Whence is remarkable, Falls is not. And the
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way I describe it is Falls is working there's a
symmetry between Falls and this staff right now, that's better
than wins in the symmetry with his staff. Because when
my eyes tell me, Wentz is way better than Falls,
but Falls wins more. What is it? So it's a
it's a bit one to dive into, and I think
both sides can be right. And I think what you
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are saying, and the argument you've created is absolutely correct
that when you get a guy that plays within the system,
that plays within the xs and oos, that recognizes his limitations,
that that adds a level of comfort to the play caller,
the coaching staff, they know exactly what they're getting every week.
And that has worked for the Eagles with Nick Foles
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the end of last year, obviously through the super Bowl,
and so far this year with Carson Wentz hurt. The
problem looking at this long term though, is that if
you talk to great football people, they will say, yeah,
but we want a guy that can play beyond the
axes and os and trust that the longer he plays
the position, he will learn to also play the majority
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of the downs within the axes and os. So what
you see with Nick Foles and I got him in trouble,
asks on the red zone interception. Anytime he tries to
play outside the axes and os, it gets him in trouble.
Carson Wentz plays outside of him too often, but also
makes spectacular plays. So what you're looking for is that
sweet spot, that balance of a guy that plays within
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the structure, plays a Bill Walsh in a Mike Holmegrand
type style of football war eighty five percent of the time,
do it exactly my way. But then the fifty percent
of the time I'm wrong, save my ass. And that's
what Carson Wentz can do. And those are the conversations
that Bill Walsh and Mike Holmegren had with Joe Montana
and Steve Young and other great quarterbacks. It's do it
(30:54):
exactly my way until I'm wrong, then save me. And
that's why they're always gonna be on the Carson Wentz vandwagon,
not the Nick Foles because he can't do that. Yeah,
And I think that's why both sides can be right here.
They really can. But I guarantee you unless they win
the Super Bowl, that's when the discussion maybe really has
to change. But unless the Eagles win the super Bowl,
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this is Carson Wentz's team for the next ten years
and the Baltimore Ravens, and I agreed with them, made
a decision in that game that we're not switching quarterbacks.
What did they say, Trent Dilfer, by not switching quarterbacks
during that game? What did they what were they telling me? Yeah,
that was an organizational statement. I bet you the conversations
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that happened prior week in prior weeks with Joe Flacco
as well, like, Hey, Joe, no matter what happens, no
matter how far we go, no matter what circumstances come
up in a game, besides an injury, Lamar Jackson's our quarterback.
We're we're making an organizational decision to go into the
future with this guy, and we need to ride this
(31:58):
as long as we can. And it may hurt us
at some point, and you know what, it did. It
hurt him in the first half against the Chargers. But
they were willing to take that chance. So that the
organization and mainly the fifty three guys in the locker
room understand that this is Lamar's team. This is gonna
be Lamar's team for a long time. And today, as
part of the journey of trying to get him to
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be a great player. I think the mistake that the
Ravens have made in this whole process one is not
honoring the greatest quarterback in the history of the Baltimore
Ravens is Joe Flacco a little bit more publicly. I
don't like that they haven't celebrated his career there a
little bit more. And being an ex Raven, being an
ex quarterback for the Ravens, all of us Ravens understand
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what Joe Flacco has done for that organization. He's been fantastic.
I think they should have honored him a little bit more.
And then other thing is I think they're making a mistake.
I don't think you can win a super Bowl with
Lamar Jackson type player. I think you can be really good.
I think you win ten games a year. I think
you can be in the conversation, but I'll be shocked
if the Lamar Jackson ever wins a super Bowl. By
the way, the Rams got rested. The Patriots had a
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week off. Kansas City did before I let you go,
you have played in playoffs, not rested and rested. The
buye week is an interesting thing. Players love it. But
if I was a hot team now the Rams, I
think needed a buy. You know, Patriots maybe didn't. Is
there any advantage to you getting the extra week or
sometimes is it a detriment. I think it's both. Again,
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I know that's a bad radio TV answer, right, I
think both can. I think both can be the answer
some teams needed. I agree with you, the Rams really
needed it. Some teams don't all the time. I think though,
if you're just giving a blanket statement at the end
of the year, your body hurts, You are fatigued physically,
you are fatigued mentally, and sometimes you need impress the
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reset button no matter how hot you are. And that's
where the buy is really really helpful, if the coach
handles it the right way where you don't lose your edge,
because you can't lose your competitive edge, but you can
get rest. It's amazing. Remember, every buddy, this is hard.
It's a hard sport. Your body hurts, your body rights
checks during the course of the season. Just a few days,
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a few days of treatment, a few days of rest
does an amazing thing to your body, your soul, your mind.
And I think that's why the buy teams typically have
an advantage. Good stuff Trent Bill for decade and a
half in this league, relying on regularly Super Bowl Cham
good talking to you a bud see everybody. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon
Easter note Ampacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and
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the iHeart Radio app. I'm never going to jump out
of a plane. I want to look right at the
camera now. I'm never going to jump out of a plane.
But if I decide to jump out of a plane,
I'm not getting in the plane going up to ten
thousand feet and then chickening out, like when I'm make
a decision to jump out of a plane someday. And
I won't, but if I did, I wouldn't be one
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of those people that talks about it, prepares for it,
goes up and then chickens out some things in life.
If you make a decision, you got to go all in. Okay,
you can't pull Lamar Jackson in that game, stop it?
Why not pull Mitch Trubisky. When you make a decision
to run this offense, you are all in on this.
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The Ravens have acknowledged we're gonna draft quarterbacks going forward
that play like Lamar. We're gonna draft offensive lineman they're
a little smaller and a little little leaner, and and
they're a little faster when you make a commitment. And
I don't think this is sustainable to win a super Bowl.
I agree with Trent Dilfer. I don't think Mitch Trubisky
and Lamar Jackson, if they're gonna win a super Bowl,
it'll be the next two years because you're not paying
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him anything once you got to Pam and you can't
have a great defense around him. They're not winning super Bowls,
but you don't. This is so different. There is a
reason if you go to watch if you pay a
hundred bucks to go to a comedy show, they've got
a comic, any an opening comic, and then you have
the big comic. They don't have a poetry reading before
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a comic because you go to laugh. Okay, certain things
you go all in on. If you have Jerry Seinfeld,
you open, you have a comic that opens for Jerry Seinfeld.
You don't go, we're gonna have a punk rock band,
then Jerry Seinfeld, then a poetry. You go all in
on comedy that night at your arena. If you're gonna
go with Lamar Jackson and I don't know if I don't.
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To me, this isn't what I think when super bowls
over ten years, especially once you have to start paying
a quarterback like this twenty five million. You have an
average defense and you gotta win shootouts and you got
to play from behind. But you don't pull Lamar Jackson
and Mitch Trabisky because they've have a bad half. But
by the way, John always had bad halfs. Tom Brady's
had bad If you want to pull quarterbacks, tom Brady
was awful against atlant in the Super Bowl for two
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and a half quarters. That's a great point. You can't
pull quarterback. You gotta go all in on Lamar Jackson.
You gotta go all in on Trabisky. I wouldn't. I said,
Lamar's a second third round pick. You let him sit
for a year. You see if you can develop him
throwing and then he runs six seven times. But this
idea that you got to pull him because he had
a bad half of good hell, I mean, admittedly it's
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a very bad time to have a bad half. Yeah,
but that's those are the decisions that you may Hey,
Peyton Manning against the Seahawks and the Super Bowl, you
watch that game. I mean Tom Brady is the best
example of that. Tom Brady's career was over after the
first half of that Falcon Super Bowl. He was terrible watched.
It's the end of his career. The Patriots dynasty is over.
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I mean everyone called it. Be sure to catch live
editions of the Herd Weekdays and New Easter not a Empacific.
There are four games this weekend and the numbers are big.
Vegas thinks we're gonna We're gonna have decisive wins. Indian
Kansas City Chiefs favored by six, Dallas at Rams, Rams
favored by seven, Philadelphia at the Saints. Saints favored by eight.
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That's a big playoff number. Yikes. And then there's there's
that one game that seems interesting to me. Chargers at
New England, New England favored by four and a half.
That's the one that's very interesting to me. Okay, I
think it's a trap bet. Vegas is begging you to
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bet the Chargers. Vegas does this once in a while.
You see a number and you're like that what that
opened it? Five? You watch the Chargers push the Ravens
around for three and a half hours, and the Ravens
are the real deal. They're begging you to bet the Chargers.
I'll just say this, Tom Brady against the remaining AFC
quarterbacks is fourteen to no. Philip Rivers and seven against
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him Luzo and six and Patrick Mahomes and one. Secondly,
playoff football. What wins in playoff football? Best defense? Well, no,
the Bears just lost. Best quarterback always wins the game. No,
Russell Wilson lost a deck. Best roster not necessarily. I mean,
the Texans have a better roster today. I would argue
(38:49):
that Indianapolis. You want to know what wins in football
in the NFL and playoffs, situational football. Philadelphia situationally was
great at the end of that football game. Dallas situationally,
Dak's run was great at the end of that football game.
Who's the best situational football team in the NFL? So
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that game, when I see all these lines New England,
I guess the lines in that game, I'm like, man,
that's a pick them. I don't know. It started at
five at feels like a trap game. Just remember this,
don't get caught up on the stuff that doesn't matter
in this league. It's gonna be snowing and twenty eight
(39:32):
degrees in Foxborough. Remember that this game is not gonna
be pretty. It could very well be just running game,
running game. You think Brady and Rivers gonna be a
it's gonna be a fireworkshow my guess is it is
low scoring situational football. That's my gut feeling. I do
like New England in that spot.
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