January 31, 2019 • 42 mins
Colin says this was the year to beat the Patriots and the entire AFC blew the best chance they're going to get. He thinks the Rams have done an incredible job creating a glamorous culture in LA in not even 3 seasons. Plus, Panthers TE Greg Olsen and Seahawks QB Russell Wilson each tell Colin about their own Super Bowl experiences and explain how tough it is to do what Tom Brady is doing. Presented by Perky Jerky.
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This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowhern
on Fox Sports Radio. Here we go to Thursday, super
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Bowl getting closed. This is the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. We are live
in Los Angeles iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio and right here
in FS one. Game's getting close. Got my pick Tomorrow
we'll unveil the pick today. I got Greg Olson, I
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got Russell Wilson, got Darius Leonard on the show today.
Joey Taylor is joining me in the Thursday. We're getting
very very very very very close, very close, so close,
very close. Very good morning to you, Greg Olson. Later
this hour, Russell Wilson topa next hour. Even industry leaders
have off years. Now. Let's say Apple, you're battling Apple
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in the tech sector. An Apple comes out with an
iPhone and it's got a bunch of glitches. Apple is vulnerable.
This is time for Apple's rivals to take advantage. Let's
say you're an automaker and you're battling a Ford or
a Chevy or a GM, one of these great companies,
and they have a major recall, they have a break
pad issue. They are vulnerable. You're the number two sales
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guy in your workforce and the number one sales guy's
going through a divorce. You got a duy. He's vulnerable.
He's wobbling. This is your year. Even industry leaders are vulnerable,
have off years, have controversies in every business, even for
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I know you hate the Patriots. I don't, but I
know most of you do. I just want you to
realize this was the year to knock him off. Okay,
they finally had a controversy. Okay, they haven't had a
controversy like this in eighteen years. They finally had one.
Belichick Brady first big argument. He slept on the couch,
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their number one draft pick at the number one need
on the team. Left tackle got hurt. The guy protecting
Tom Brady, the rookie from Georgia got hurt. Never played
major issue. They had to scramble make a trade with
the forty nine ers. The veterans, many of them important veterans,
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Danny m Mendola, Dion Lewis, Malcolm Butler. They all left
at once in free agency. Whoa, these were good players
and they all left. Julian Edelman was suspended for four games.
He was out for all of September, and coming off
an ACL we just didn't know how good he was
gonna beat. You had the Josh Gordon distraction that was
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just a mess. That really the Pittsburgh game, you were like,
what's wrong with New England? I mean it literally disrupted
a game for them, and then a week ago you
had to you had to play a road playoff game.
Talk about an obstacle. I mean, this was the year
to beat them. Tom Brady talked about this the other day.
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This has been roadblock after roadblock. It's never linear. I mean,
I guess you have a few years in there, and
I can think of a few in our team history
that just kind of went like obviously the the Oh
seven team and twenty ten I thought we had a
great team, we lost the Jets in the playoffs, and
there's some other years that are just you got you
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gotta fight in cloth. Two thousand and one was like that.
This year has been like that. But here's the problem
for the rest of the NFL. None of those problems.
The controversy, the number one draft pick that didn't play,
the veterans at all left in free agency, Edelman being
suspended for September, the Josh Gordon mess having to play
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a road game in the playoffs against the MVP quarterback.
They probably don't face any of those next year. My
guess is they're not going to have their second big distraction,
their second big Brady Belichick beeve they've got twelve draft picks,
really fourteen if he count the two picks last year
that one starting jobs and got heard. There's no big
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free agent losses looming other than maybe Trey Flowers, and
I think they pay for him. Gronk is leaving said
as much yesterday. That'll free up cap space and the
Jets of the Dolphins have new head coaches, translation, new systems.
That takes a little bit, so they probably takes those
teams to October early November. New coach, new system, new offense,
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new defense to kind of be upright informidable, folks, This
was the year and they're in the Super Bowl and
they're favored by a field goal, and even the Sharps
in Vegas. All nine of the biggest bats are on
New England. If Apple comes out with a glitch in
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their iPhone, or a major automaker has a break pad
issue and has to do a recall, or the number
one salesperson is going through a divorce, industry leaders are
all at some point vulnerable. You better take advantage. And
this year the Rams are the last chance to take
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advantage of a vulnerable dynasty, the longest in NFL history.
All right, let me shift to this. Anthony Davis, Lakers
Lebron It's going to happen, right, We're just not sure when. Well.
According to reports, the Pelicans general manager Dell Demps is
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not picking up the phone. He is so mad he
is not picking up the phone. In fact, according to
Mark Stein New York Times, if no trade materializes between
now in the February seventh deadline, they may just shelve
Anthony Davis and not playing for the rest of the year.
Oh boy. There are several stages of divorce. There's the
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yelling and screaming stage. There's the bitterness stage. There's the
simmering stage, and then there's the acceptance stage. They are
clearly in the bitterness stage. The general manager will not
pick up the phone. They're thinking if a trade doesn't
get done, they're not even going to play Anthony Davis.
They're not even to the simmering stage yet. They're they're
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in the bitter stage. Maybe no yelling and screaming, but
they're in the bitterness stage. Pelican fans, never forget this.
NBA already bailed you out once, Chris Paul deal. Okay, okay,
just remember that, and you have to remember this for
people in New Orleans. In every league, college or pro,
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there are destinations with historic advantages. LSU football will forever
be more attractive place than Missouri football or Kentucky football
or Vanderville football. Forever, one hundred years from now, LSU
will be a cooler place to play college football than Missouri,
then Mississippi State. Not saying those programs aren't good, but
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it'll always be cooler. By the way, in the NFL,
Green Bay and Buffalo will never be top free agent markets.
One's been to four Super Bowls, lost all of them,
but got to four, and Green Bay won it. Was far.
They went it with Bart Starr, and they went it
with Aaron Rodgers. They've had to overcome that New Orleans
is never going to be a free agent destination. Either
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was Cleveland until a kid named Lebron was born in Akron.
Either was Orlando and they got to two finals. There
are certain absolute truths in college sports. Kentucky basketball is
always gonna matter more than Oregon State basketball forever. Alabama
football is always gonna mean more than Kentucky football forever.
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And there are certain markets in the NBA. Sacramento is
never going to be a glamor market. New Orleans, Orlando
are never going to be a glamor market. But look
on the bright side, Anthony Davis gave you a heads up.
He's like, yeah, I'm not gonna stay here. By the way,
the next guy you drafted, he's as good as Anthony Davis.
You've got about six years with him, and then he'll
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also decide, yeah, I'm not gonna stay here. You got
six years with him. Now he's giving your heads up,
So go get three or four players, two or three
draft picks. Reboot just because a star leaves, What did
you lose in this whole deal. You had him for
six years. You were one and eight against the Warriors
in the playoffs. You weren't doing anything with him. By
the way, the Washington Wizard Star got hurt John Wall,
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they're better without him. You've seen in the right last
two years when he gets hurt. The Boston Celtics got
to the Eastern Conference Finals Game seven. This year. They
got their stars back. Gordon Haywards clogged everything up. They
were better last year. By the way. The Indiana Pacers,
Paul George says, I'm out of here. He gave my
heads up. The Pacers front office, Kevin Pitcher did a
great job. They're better without Paul George. You just have
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to come to the realization there are certain truths in sports.
The Oakland Days have won a lot of games. It's
not where free agents go. The San Antonio Spurs, it's
not where free agents go. Does it mean he can't win?
Green Bay Packers in Buffalo won They've been new Between
the two of them, what ten Super Bowls? Free Agents
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don't want to go there. There's different ways to win
in sports. Anthony Davis is never gonna be built for
fourteen years in New Orleans. If you get a guy
like Anthony Davis, you're gonna get him for his first contract,
the way the NBA contract work. You'll get him for
a second, but he's not signing a third there And
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you got in Cleveland. You got Lebron for a contract
and then a second contract, and then he went to Miami.
You didn't get a third straight contract out and when
he came back, he did one year deals. You can't
get stars in those markets. You're not getting a third
contract out of them. You get their rookie deal, then
they resigned to make the first big money of their life,
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and then they're generally gone. Okay, so you have your
six years. If you're Cleveland with Lebron, you couldn't do anything.
You've had your six years with Anthony Davis. Drew Holliday's
your next best player, couldn't do anything. But this is
not even The Yankees are a glamor market. The Red
Sox are a glamour market. Okay. LSU football is a
glamour program. Texas football is a glamour program. But right now,
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in the divorce stage, the Pelicans are in the bitterness stage.
And I would strongly recommend you get to the simmering stage,
and you get to the Septon stage because you better
pick up the phone. Get three players, maybe four, get
several draft picks. Reboot. It's been proven time and time again.
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The way you're gonna get stars is draft them. You'll
get them for six years, but you're not getting them
for a third contract. Lakers will keep theirs, Yankees can
keep theirs. Red Sox can keep theirs. LSU football will
keep the best high school players in their state. Just
the way the game works. No reason to pout about it.
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in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
FS one and the iHeartRadio app. It's very important that
for a radio show for a football team. If I
say New England Patriots, their brand is system over player,
really really smart. You know that's important. That's their brand.
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Golden State Warriors analytics, very comfortable with stars, they shoot
the three. That's their brand. You know what you're getting
when you're going in. So everybody in the building knows
this is what we are. New England. We draft smart players,
we don't draft egos. Its system. It helps the scouts,
it helps the coach, it helps the staff, it helps
the owner, it helps everybody, Golden State. If you can't
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shoot threes, we don't have a lot of need for you.
If you can't deal with other people and handle stars,
we don't have much need for you. Establishing a brand
is very important, from the owner to the GM to
the coach in sports. Out of sports, DeShawn Jackson yesterday,
and we predicted this. We said, if the Rams get
to the super Bowl and win it, win it or
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not get there, they are establishing a brand in this league.
And remember that, Lavian Bell tweeted a week ago. He
tweeted about the Rams. He said, hey, look what they're doing.
It's working for them. Lavian Bell is saying, as a
star player on the market as a team as I
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like that team, I like what they do well. DeShawn Jackson,
not even a free agent yet, talked about where he'd
love to end up worst case scenari if anything, I
would like to kind of end up in La Oh, yeah,
you know, we got some connections, yeah, DC. But you know,
we'll see how it plays up there. You go, think
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about this, The La Rams have not been in this
city for a full three years yet and they've already
established their brand. They are officially the glamor franchise in
the NFL. Not saying the best with the glamour franchise.
They're fun. Stars are welcome. We'll take divas, lots of offense.
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We don't make you play in the preseason. Our practices
aren't burdensome. They've already gott now play. It's very NBA
feel to it. Stars are absolutely welcome here. And you
know who deserves credit on this, Jerry Jones of the Cowboys.
This organization was in the NFL forever in Saint Louis
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and they didn't have any brand. They were Tampa, they
were Detroit, they were Jacksonville, they were the Jets, they
were Arizona. What's their brand? What's their point of view?
What are they? Okay? Jerry Jones went to the owner,
Stan Cronki, They're very close, have been for years, done
business for years, and said, get this thing to La Go.
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You got a bunch of land in Los Angeles, build
a stadium. Okay, I'll go to the owners, get to
Los Angeles. Help our league even though their rivals, even
though they're in the NFC. Jerry Jones told Stan Cronky.
Jerry Jones also got Oakland to Las Vegas. Jerry has
been on the forefront of convincing other owners for years
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and years. NFL was anti Vegas. Jerry got into a
room and convinced them those days are over. Wasn't much
long after gambling, sports, gambling egalies in America. Jerry very much.
People don't like to move. Team said, let's get to
Los Angeles. Stan Cronky's like, I'm not sure how this
is gonna play. Jerry said, you got a bunch of
land out there, go build a stadium. Less than three
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years in the league, the Rams already have a brand established.
And by the way, this is what every league is
looking for. The Celtics have a historic brand, The Lakers
have a brand. Golden State now has a brand. The
problem with the Knicks is they don't have a brand.
That's why it's an underperforming franchise. NFL loves brands. Green
Bay's got a brand, great quarterbacks, you know, the wholesome
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city in a small town. Green Bay's a brand. The Cowboys,
the Steelers, the Patriots. I mean this is give Jerry
Jones credit. He got stand cronky in this league. They
didn't want to do it. They didn't move teams in
a while, he got him to move to LA and
three years in we have another established brand and it's
the Glitz Glimmer brand in the NFL saand's gonna win
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a bunch of Super Bowls. But brands are important and
Jerry deserves a lot of credit. Be sure to catch
live editions of the Herd weekdays in neun Easter nay
Em Pacific. Let's go to Greg Olson via the Coward
Global satellite net were twelve NFL seasons, three time pro bowler.
My guess is he's going to end up in the
Hall of Fame, and he's also if he wants to quit,
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it's gonna have multiple networks bidding for his rights as
a broadcaster. Greg, it's good to see you again. I
want to I want to throw us up mountain. You
tell me it's an advantage. So the New England Patriots,
Stefan Gilmore played for four years in a row with
Robert Woods of the Rams. Knows every move. The Patriots
faced Robert Woods for years. The Patriots, by the way,
had Brandon Cook for a year. They know his strengths
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and weaknesses. The Patriots had a key to lead for
two years. Isn't an advantage for the Patriots that they
know key members of the RAMS personnel? Yeah, I think
to a degree. I think especially a team like New England, right,
who is so interested in turning over every stone gaining
every advantage possible, they think of every single scenario. Yeah,
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they know if Robert Woods struggles with press verse off.
They know what routes he struggles getting in and out
of breaks should we you know, they know the intricacies.
They saw him every day in practice. Their coaches knew
what he struggled with, what he couldn't do, you know,
Brandon Cooks. I'm saying so like they understand what these
guys can and can do better than almost anyone playing
against Robert Woods up in Buffalo. They can see what
he does. You know, I think there is something too that. Now, again,
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it's a different scheme. You know, Sean McVay is going
to have his counter to that, right, They're gonna have
their counter to Belichick taken away. You know what La
is going to do. So I think that chess match
is interesting, But I don't think there's anyone better at
isolating your weaknesses and exploiting them more than Belichick and
just generally the Patriots. You know, you were at a
super Bowl, and the super Bowl the first one I
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have Russell Wilson on next hour, he went to two.
His first one is the week of practice and the
extra week and the relatives and the tickets is the
It wasn't hard. Was it a different week? It's definitely
a different you know, it's really a different two weeks.
You know. We you do a whole week of practice
on the front end, back of your facility back home.
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Then we traveled on Sunday, had a practice Monday, and
then went through another entire prepper week. It almost was
too much practice, too much downtime, too much meetings. You know,
you can kind of overthink it. You know. We're so
routine oriented calling in the NFL, where every Wednesday's a Wednesday,
every Thursday's a Thursday, and we just clip off week
after week after week, and when you're rolling, you don't
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want to buy Well, we were rolling off the NFC championship.
We just put up forty five plus points against the Cardinals,
you know, one of the top teams in the league
that year, and got to buy that We didn't, you know,
in essence, had an extra week, and you know it
hurt us. We really peaked two weeks too early. And offensively,
we just really played poorly, and I think we didn't
do a great job handling the changes that that that
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Super Bowl build up led to, and as a result,
we squandered a really a really promising opportunity. Are you
or how surprised are you that the Rams got to
leave and Marcus Peters and and Dominican Sue and Dante Fowler,
guys who had either underachieved, Guys who had at times
had you know, a little baggage here and there, and
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yet it's worked. Greg, as you watched the Rams from Afar,
were you kind of surprised they were able to take
a young quarterback, a young coach, superstar running back, free
agent trade guy with a little baggage and it all
kind of worked. It surprised you, you know, I didn't
know a lot about Sean mcveay, you know, coming from
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his background with Washington and got that job. I think
everyone had the same reaction. I just don't think anyone
who watches closely, someone who follows the game, I don't
think it took long to realize there was something unique
about him. There was something and I'm not talking about
his play design and scheme. I think when you hear
him talk. I interacted with him a little bit last
year when I ran into him at NFL Honors, and
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you can be around him for a couple of minutes
and he just has a very unique kind of corre
isma that comes across. And again, let's not forget here's
a young guy that's being questioned. Be very easy for
him getting in this job, to be very insecure, surround
himself with his people. And who does he hire. He
hires Wade Phillips. He hires a guy that if he
gets off to a really bad start out there, coming
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off a terrible couple years with Jeff Fisher, if he
gets off to a similar start, that's the coach, interim
coach in waiting on your staff. He was confident in himself, saying, listen,
I don't have all the answers. I can deliver a message.
I can run an offense, but I'm gonna get an
associate head coach in essence to run the defense and
someone that I can lean on. I think that move
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sums up what is very in a very selfish and
a very uncomfortable NFL world that we create. Sean McVay
was so confident in himself, he was not threatened by anybody,
by the way, How do players look at Brady not
just as longevity, but the fact that he's done something
which is generally not cool. He's taken pay cuts. He's
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done it like Tim Duncan. I mean, he's going to
sign another extension. He's gonna probably make about fifteen million
a year, which makes him the twenty eight highest paid quarterback.
Are there a few guys in the league that look
at Brady and think, Okay, enough is enough. You're killing
us here on the free agent market. I'm sure there are,
and I think he's He's learned a long time ago
that you know, striking while it's hot and maximizing your
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pay is not always in your best interest. Sustain success
both individually and as a team. That's the true ticket, right,
That's the true path towards making a lot of money
being the best player of all time. There's a lot
that goes into it. In today's world, with the quarterbacks
around the league taking up as big a percentage of
the cap that they are, you know, you've got guys
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making thirty plus million dollars a year on one hundred
and fifty one hundred and sixty million dollars cap. There's
only so much now to go around you. And I
think he's he's understood that for a long time. He
has a unique situation obviously with his ability to generate
income in other areas. But you know, winning has been
that's the backbone of his career. He's not you know,
not the yards, not the touchdowns. Winning is what he's
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known as. And I think he would take that over
every other you know, recognition, every other record that you
could throw out there. Okay, you've played twelve years, you've
had some injuries. How shocked are you? And I know
tight ends a much more physically imposing position, more daunting
than a quarterback, But are you kind of shocked that
Brady against the Chargers, that's as good as I've ever
seen him play? Like you ever? Just go is it
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the Kale pajamas? I mean, are you kind of amazed
by it? It is? I mean, listen, he has really
devoted his entire lifestyle to playing quarterback for a long time,
and at a high level. In a very late stage
of his life, and you know, to be talking about
playing into his mid forties, late forties is almost unheard of.
And it's not even so much that he's able to play,
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it's that he's able to lead his team to the
super Bowl and not just be a member. Right, So
we played Payton Manning that year in the Super Bowl.
He's Payton Manning. He's an all time great player. That
defense and that circumstance is what, at least in the
Super Bowl beat us. Brady is still the number one
factor preparing to play it at his stage of his career.
That's unheard of. It's it's truly remarkable. A lot of
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it's his preparation, his mindset, his training routine. It's a
little different, but it works. It works with what he's
asked to do. It works within the scheme of what
he's asked to do. He's not going to run around,
he's not looking to be a hero and get hit.
He's gonna just stand there and throw the ball. And
as long as his arm works and his brain works,
he's in good shape. Greg continued success. You're one of
the good guys. Thanks Bud, Thank you, always enjoy it.
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Russell Wilson super Bowl Champ. Been to a couple of
these things. Great to see your rust. You're ready to go.
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I know you'd rather actually be in the game, but
I want you to take my audience back to your
first Super Bowl. A lot of media you were becoming
a star, A million requests. Did you find it like
the Rams this week, a little disruptive and out of
your usual habits? No, I think that you're prepared for it.
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You know, I've actually prepared for it the year before.
You go back to two thousand and twelve. You know,
I think about my rookie year. I actually actually went
to the Super Bowl to experience all that, to understand
what it would be like just in case I went
in the next year or whenever it would be, and
so I prepared for that. I prepared for what the
half time would be like. I'll be prepared for what
the media could be like potentially, and so that helped
me going into twenty thirteen being prepared for it. Hey,
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you know what, embrace it, don't don't fear it. And
so you know, listen, you either love the big moments
that you don't. And I think that you look forward
to him. I definitely look forward to him, that's for sure.
You know, it's interesting. I've heard players say this before
that as a quarterback, you can be excited ross but
you can't get too excited because it'll hurt your accuracy.
You know, you'll you'll you'll be too amped up the
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first series up the game. Do you remember it? Do
you remember trying to kind of control your energy? Can
you take us back there? Yeah? I felt I felt
cold as eyes, I felt ready to go. I felt
like it was I was meant to be there, you know,
I was. There's a saying that I always tell myself,
I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, and that
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kind of just gets my my my mind, right, you know,
funny things about the coin toss. One of my favorite
things about the Super Bowl, going back and even watching
all the Super Bowls and in the past, you know,
twenty plus years of my life. You know. It was
one of my favorite things of the coin toss. And
why it's because you realize you're actually at the Super Bowl.
Because the flashing lights, right, you know, people kick up
the ball off and everything else. And I'll never get
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this funny story. I would go out for the coin
toss and Peyton Manning's coming across the way, you know, uh,
you know, Champ Bailey And next thing I know, I
go out for the coin toss and it's and it's uh,
you know, it's Joe Namath out there ready to do
the coin toss. And we we flipped the we flipped
the coin and he flips it too early, right, he
flips the coin toss too early, and the ref catches
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in the mid air. He said, hey, hey, Joe, we
gotta let him call heads or tails, you know, and
he goes, he goes, he goes to me, he goes.
You know, Russell, I always had a quick release, you know,
so that kind of that kind of broke the ice
for me pretty early. Yeah. Did you know you faced
the Rams twice this year? Now, Ross, and they were
really really good games. In fact, the first game they
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may have been undefeated. They were on a roll and
you guys, it came down to the last play. Take
my audience, Russell into what that defensive front is like.
They have a very aggressive, talented secondary. What do the
Rams do that you found, you know, disruptive or difficult defensively? Well,
I think you know, going back to those games, you know,
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we were right there at the first game we played
at home, I think there were eight o seven and
oh at the time. Yep, we had unbelievable game. Scored
thirty one points in that game. We had the ball
in the thirty one yard line going in with less
than two minutes ago, I believe, and we get two
penalties in a row. Unfortunately, Yeah, kicks us out of
field goal range. We don't get to win the game
to kick a field goal store touchdow, you know. And
then they end up winning a game. The second time,
we go to a tough environment in La all the
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Malibu fires were happening, is very emotional game. Yeah, we
go back and forth. We scored thirty one again, maybe
even more, and they scored. They end up scoring a
couple more points than us again. So um, you know,
I think the thing about their defensive line. It starts
with Aaron Donald. You got a double team this guy
all game, all day. But the problem is you got
in the Dominican sus sitting next to him. And the
biggest thing they did was they got Fowler, which is
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the biggest acquisition they had really throughout the season. Yeah,
who makes plays and out to leaves back. So they're
gonna be ready to play some football. They're a very
very good football team. Now let's talk now about facing Belichick.
You had success, you move the ball. In fact, I
remember in the second half you have a lead on them,
and most teams in the second half. You know, the
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offense dries up against New England. It did not with
you in the Seahawks. So let's go back to that.
What did Bill throw at you, Belichick? That was a
little wrinkle Russ. Yeah, well, you know what they did
to us. You know, first of all, that they just rushed.
You know, they would only rush two guys at a time,
So I'll be sitting there just kind of hanging out.
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They drop everybody else out and we were able to
make a lot of big plays down the field and
make some key crucial plays throughout that game. Uh, and
the super Bowl, and obviously the last one didn't work
the way we wanted to. But you know, they end
up we were we had the lead, they end up
coming back unfortunately with I don't know, six minutes to go,
and we we end up we end up getting the
ball two minutes and I look forward to those moments.
We go all the way down the field and unfortunately
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doesn't work out for us. But the other two times
we played them too. In my rookie year we played
them at home, and then the year after that, I
believe after the Super Bowl m we played them at
New England and it was a back and fourth game.
We end up scoring a bunch of points. They end
up scoring some points too as well, and it comes
down to the fourth, fourth down and one Tom has
the ball in the one yard line and they don't
get it. So, uh, you know, listen, this is gonna
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be a tremendous game. I think that the thing about
Bill Belichicki's he's gonna have a note card of defensive calls.
He's not gonna try to do too much. He's gonna
do it right, and you got to execute better than
they do. And finally, Russ, when when you look at
you faced Jared Goff, and I remember, I think you
said this once to me that you came into the
league and it was about year three when everything kind
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of clicked. The game slows down. It's hard for young guys.
Now Goff now is in year three and you were
successful before that, but it is hard to go from
the Big ten, the Pac twelve to NFL schemes and defenses.
So Jared Goff, now you've seen a lot of him
the last couple of years. What do you like about him? Well,
he's poised, he's calm, he's got a great coach. They
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got great players around him. You know, I think the
thing about this game is he's just got to do
what he does best, you know, and facilitate the ball,
make his big throws. Um. You know, I really like
his demeanor a lot. So he's he's gone a great
player for a long time. Okay, Russ has been on
Team Bows forever. By the way, I got one of
those radio since twenty fourteen. You're also teaming with a
free app called Tally. What is it? Well, you know,
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first of all, with both, it's super exciting. I got
these new frames, by the way, they're pretty sick. Okay,
there's there's these glasses. You know, I'm I'm walking around
the streets of Atlanta, you know, hot Landau with these
glasses on listen to my music, you know, Sierra's performer nights.
I'm getting my mind right. And then uh and then
with uh with with with you know obviously that you
mentioned the Tally app. Tally's pretty cool. It's predict fun
predictions game where it's free to play and people get
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to play it. It's basically twelve question think HQ, but
for live events, live moments like the super Bowl, live
moment moments like NBA Finals, NBA games, Uh, the Bachelor,
even you know, the Oscars, the Grammys, those moments are
always great. So uh, we've you know, there's this new
app called you know that it's it's called Tally. Go
download it, play tally dot com. It's a lot of
fun and you know from this game, you can win
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up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars if you
get it all all the answers right. So everybody should
go play. It's it's super exciting. It's a lot of fun,
So go play Tally. It's a lot that's really cool.
And I'm gonna do it while I'm wearing these glasses
while I do it. Colin, if you don't mind, now,
I don't mind. My sister never like sports until Russell
wilson Um became the Seahawk orderback. And you're my sister's
favorite player and the only reason my sister never liked sports.
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And I was a sports junkie. So you've made the
family closer. I'm a huge fan. I love having you
and Ross. Good luck to you. What's always a pleasure. Man,
Go Hawks, I'll see you soon. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter nine
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the
iHeart Radio app. It's funny about the word committed, and
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you know Brady's taken commitment to a new level. He
won't drink a beer during the season. You know, like
that's that's true. That that I you know, and we
talk about on this show. The audience doesn't see it,
but we come in for two and a half hours
every day. We sit and just bang on a table
trying to get topics. You know, we've all had the
more or less successful person in our family where they
think forty five hours a week is really committed, and
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you're like, I work sixty five hours a week. That's
why I'm more successful. Commitments are really interesting word. What
is truly committed? One of the things where like Brady
and him Duncan are more committed than I think a
Lebron James. Lebron James is physically committed, he's mentally committed.
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But Lebron James doesn't have to take the salary he
takes Duncan and Brady. Their commitment isn't just a body,
isn't just a practice, isn't just too lifestyle. It's to
the commitment. I'm going to take less. Now. I know
Tom's married to a supermodel. He has all that ancillary income.
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Well so does Lebron. It's called a billion dollar lifetime
Nike contract. Lebron makes more money with Nike Aaron Rodgers
makes over ten million a year with commercials like commitments
a funny word. What Brady and Tim Duncan have done
is I'm not just committed at practice, to schemes, to
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being amenable to coaching. I'm so committed in a salary
cap league, I'm gonna take less money. That's a different
level that Lebron doesn't do. Kobe would not do, Aaron's
not willing to do for a long time. Drew Brees
would not do it. And I just don't think we
ever think about that. And I know what you say, Well,
Brady's got a supermodel wife. Aaron Rodgers makes over ten
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million dollars a year. I've been told on commercials he
doesn't have to take thirty three million. He could take
twenty seven and they could have two more players. And
I'm not, you know, I'm not. I'm just saying, what
does commitment mean? You think prepping for a radio show
forty minutes his commitment. I see two and a half hours.
Rush Limbaugh may do four and a half hours. I
think one of the great because I just saw a
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story here where Robert Kraft is open to extending Tom Brady.
And Brady right now is the twenty seventh highest paid
quarterback in the Nfowl. And you could say, well, he's
got money, but it's all about respect an ego. I mean,
Tom obviously doesn't need money, he'll never spend it. Well,
either's Lebron. I mean Tim Duncan. When you're able to
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be still at the top of your game. And I
keep staying Brady and Duncan because I don't think they're
the best they've ever been. I do think there is
some erosion, but you know, Duncan want to title over
Miami late in his career. But it's a commitment. If
you want to go really deep on commitment, some of
it is in a salary cap league. I'll take less.
And by the way, before you say, well, that's by
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the way, NBA players take less all the time. Kevin
Durant took less to go to Golden State, Anthony Davis
is going to take less to go to the Lakers.
Chris boss In Wade took class. Took class. So don't
tell me players won't take less. NBA players take less
all the time. Lebron could easily more than any player,
get paid significantly less and not demand it if he could.
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You know, the union obviously wants him to take the most,
but I would say this with all players. We don't
consider Brady's willingness to constantly restructure his deal as a thing,
and we never talked about it with Tim Duncan. But
there's no question the Patriots dynasty has been extended due
to it, and the Spurs dynasty was extended to Duncan's selflessness.
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Didn't have to just didn't take the money, So I
don't just buy it to ohas you know Tom Brady's
wife's a billionaire. Well, these NBA guys make so much
money on shoes and merchandise that NFL guys don't. Tom
Brady didn't make any money on his cleats. These NBA
guys make Derrek Rose made one hundred million dollars on
shoes and he barely wore him because he was never healthy.
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NBA guys make a fortune on gear. They're like golfers.
So what's your commitment? How deep does it go? By
the way Nick Wright earlier this morning on what Brady
should look for in his next deal, I would try
to exert a little bit of leverage and say, hey,
I have taken below market deals every year. I will
continue to do that for you. But I've said I
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want to play to long forty five. I want this
contract to take me till I'm forty five. That's a
three year deal and i'd like it to be guaranteed.
So if you want me to play for fifteen to
eighteen million a year, the way I have been over
the last four years, when other guys are getting twenty
eight Rogers and Stafford getting thirty plus. I will play
for half of my market value, but I want three
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years forty five million. Call it that tacked onto the
end of it, and go ahead and make that a
fully guaranteed contract. I think now that's it's a very
interesting proposition. I'll ask you, Joy, if Brady told you
I'll take fifteen million a year that is in the
to Rod Taylor class, I'll take it, but you gotta
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get me three years. You own the Patriots, would you
do it? Yes, of course you do it. Well, I
would too. I'm just yeah. I mean, because let's say
you get two more years at this kind of level.
Who cares if at that point, Well, if he said
he's gonna play to forty five, Yeah, if he's asking
for a deal, it takes him to forty five and
it's guaranteed. Then before his last year, if you see
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any erosion, yeah, you draft a quarterback, right, or you
make provisions. He's told you he's going to play that long. Yeah,
we know that he's not gonna play till he's fifty,
or I don't know. I actually I can't really say that.
We're not gonna assume he's not going to play that
long at this level. So you he's giving you the
opportunity to make those plans if he sticks to that.
By the way, I've been told this year by somebody
I trust, New England has twelve picks they will draft
a quarterback. Now it'll probably be it will not I
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don't think it'll be their first two picks. But remember
New England's got six picks in the first three rounds.
That is a lot of picks. So I think New
England's gonna draft a quarterback with one of their first
six picks. Now they're gonna go to find a nag rusher.
They want another corner. That they're a tight end is
a huge need for them. And by the way, that
means nothing that they're gonna take a quarterback. No, but sure.
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I always said if I ran an NFL franchise, I
would draft a quarterback every year. Now some years it
would be like John Elway got the kid from Northwestern
in the seventh round. But it doesn't even if I
have Jared Goff and I'm the Rams and I have
my full compliment of picks. Draft picks are like forty
fifty percent. Once you get past the second round, I'm
making the league. I take a quarterback either every year
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or two out of three years. You just don't know
when you're gonna find a jam. And by the way,
if they do become Garoppolo on a Gem, well you
got either a great backup or you got trade value. Yeah.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd week
dayson noon Easter nine a Empacific. By the way, I
was talking to a scout in the NFL last night
and he said, it's a real thing. He said, don't
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kid yourself. He goes a really big advantage for the Patriots,
and he goes, I don't think it's just a small
advantage it. Belichick is really good once guys get into
the league. Bills made some mistakes in the draft, okay,
but he said, once guys get into the league, Bills
a great town evaluator. Once guys get into the league.
On what fits, how to stop players, and the Rams
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two biggest offensive threats on the perimeter. Brandon Cooks played
for the Patriots last years. All of his straints, all
of his weaknesses, what routes he runs well, what routes
he doesn't. And so the Patriots have intimate knowledge of
Brandon Cooks, what he can do, what he can't. All
those corners for New England, they've all covered him at
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practice for a year. That is a big advantage for
New England and Robert Woods. Robert Woods played for four
years in Buffalo. Belichick has faced Robert Woods many many times.
And to add to that, Stefan Gilmore, the best corner
for the Patriots, played with Robert Woods for four years.
You don't think Stefan Gilmore knows every single move of
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Robert Woods. The other thing is, so those two big
offensive weapons. This is what worries me for the Rams.
I don't know if Todd Gurley's healthy. So if Todd Gurley,
and I'm not sure he's been healthy since late October.
If Todd Gurley's not one hundred percent, and he wasn't
last week, he lost confidence. He couldn't catch, he couldn't block,
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there is a big advantage for New England here on
the perimeter. Belicheck knows NFL players. Now Again, he's not
always been the best drafter. He's made plenty of mistakes
once guy's getting the league. Bill knows weaknesses strengths. He's
really an NFL guy. He leans on Saban urban Meyer
some of his guys for college stuff, and people in
his staff for college stuff. Bill's not sitting on Saturday
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night watching hours and hours of college football. Some coaches do.
But he knows Brandon Cooks, and he knows Robert Woods.
Keep to Leeb was with him for two years in
the Patriot system, so he knows his vulnerabilities and his strengths.
Those are three really important players in this game. Robert Woods,
Brandon Cooks and the keep to Leeb all Rams all
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very very important players. And they know him really, really well.
And I haven't heard anybody talk about that. You know,
it's it's not maybe a you know, a sexy, glamorous topic,
but you know it's something well we've been talking about
it a lot. With the Todd Girley C. J. Anderson situation,
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it's a huge advantage for Bill Bilochick to not know
what's going on there because he always takes away your
biggest weapon, right, So if your biggest weapon in Todd
Gurley eliminates himself, I mean you assume that they're going
to do whatever they can to take Robert Woods out
of the game. If that's their number one receiver and
then the most reliable target. It's interesting, Joy, because I
don't know if I have Stefan Gilmore, I can put
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him on Robert Woods. I'm not sure I have to double.
I think that's a good matchup. I advantage nobody. I
think that's a really good matchup. You know, we asked
it this week. Is the number one weapon for the
Rams was Cooper Cup. It was Girley and Cooper Cup. Well,
Cooper Cup's gone and Jared Goff's numbers have come down.
I think if Cooper Cup was in this game and
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Todd Gurley, I knew one hundred percent healthy, I think
I take the RAMS. I mean I would have no problem.
My reluctance to take the Rams is all statistical. Cooper
Cup left, acl Goff's never quite been the same. That's
factual to the point where Sean McVay went and got
another running back because he knew they had to become
more run centric and and and for the record, should
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also be noted that you and I don't know how
healthy girl he is. Everybody on the internet last week
was was trying to figure out, you know, how healthy
is he. I don't know. I just know he wasn't
completely healthy, right,
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(00:24):
Bowl getting closed. This is the Herd. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. We are live
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in FS one. Game's getting close. Got my pick Tomorrow
we'll unveil the pick today. I got Greg Olson, I
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got Russell Wilson, got Darius Leonard on the show today.
Joey Taylor is joining me in the Thursday. We're getting
very very very very very close, very close, so close,
very close. Very good morning to you, Greg Olson. Later
this hour, Russell Wilson topa next hour. Even industry leaders
have off years. Now. Let's say Apple, you're battling Apple
(01:11):
in the tech sector. An Apple comes out with an
iPhone and it's got a bunch of glitches. Apple is vulnerable.
This is time for Apple's rivals to take advantage. Let's
say you're an automaker and you're battling a Ford or
a Chevy or a GM, one of these great companies,
and they have a major recall, they have a break
pad issue. They are vulnerable. You're the number two sales
(01:37):
guy in your workforce and the number one sales guy's
going through a divorce. You got a duy. He's vulnerable.
He's wobbling. This is your year. Even industry leaders are vulnerable,
have off years, have controversies in every business, even for
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I know you hate the Patriots. I don't, but I
know most of you do. I just want you to
realize this was the year to knock him off. Okay,
they finally had a controversy. Okay, they haven't had a
controversy like this in eighteen years. They finally had one.
Belichick Brady first big argument. He slept on the couch,
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their number one draft pick at the number one need
on the team. Left tackle got hurt. The guy protecting
Tom Brady, the rookie from Georgia got hurt. Never played
major issue. They had to scramble make a trade with
the forty nine ers. The veterans, many of them important veterans,
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Danny m Mendola, Dion Lewis, Malcolm Butler. They all left
at once in free agency. Whoa, these were good players
and they all left. Julian Edelman was suspended for four games.
He was out for all of September, and coming off
an ACL we just didn't know how good he was
gonna beat. You had the Josh Gordon distraction that was
(03:08):
just a mess. That really the Pittsburgh game, you were like,
what's wrong with New England? I mean it literally disrupted
a game for them, and then a week ago you
had to you had to play a road playoff game.
Talk about an obstacle. I mean, this was the year
to beat them. Tom Brady talked about this the other day.
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This has been roadblock after roadblock. It's never linear. I mean,
I guess you have a few years in there, and
I can think of a few in our team history
that just kind of went like obviously the the Oh
seven team and twenty ten I thought we had a
great team, we lost the Jets in the playoffs, and
there's some other years that are just you got you
(03:50):
gotta fight in cloth. Two thousand and one was like that.
This year has been like that. But here's the problem
for the rest of the NFL. None of those problems.
The controversy, the number one draft pick that didn't play,
the veterans at all left in free agency, Edelman being
suspended for September, the Josh Gordon mess having to play
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a road game in the playoffs against the MVP quarterback.
They probably don't face any of those next year. My
guess is they're not going to have their second big distraction,
their second big Brady Belichick beeve they've got twelve draft picks,
really fourteen if he count the two picks last year
that one starting jobs and got heard. There's no big
(04:34):
free agent losses looming other than maybe Trey Flowers, and
I think they pay for him. Gronk is leaving said
as much yesterday. That'll free up cap space and the
Jets of the Dolphins have new head coaches, translation, new systems.
That takes a little bit, so they probably takes those
teams to October early November. New coach, new system, new offense,
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new defense to kind of be upright informidable, folks, This
was the year and they're in the Super Bowl and
they're favored by a field goal, and even the Sharps
in Vegas. All nine of the biggest bats are on
New England. If Apple comes out with a glitch in
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their iPhone, or a major automaker has a break pad
issue and has to do a recall, or the number
one salesperson is going through a divorce, industry leaders are
all at some point vulnerable. You better take advantage. And
this year the Rams are the last chance to take
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advantage of a vulnerable dynasty, the longest in NFL history.
All right, let me shift to this. Anthony Davis, Lakers
Lebron It's going to happen, right, We're just not sure when. Well.
According to reports, the Pelicans general manager Dell Demps is
(06:01):
not picking up the phone. He is so mad he
is not picking up the phone. In fact, according to
Mark Stein New York Times, if no trade materializes between
now in the February seventh deadline, they may just shelve
Anthony Davis and not playing for the rest of the year.
Oh boy. There are several stages of divorce. There's the
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yelling and screaming stage. There's the bitterness stage. There's the
simmering stage, and then there's the acceptance stage. They are
clearly in the bitterness stage. The general manager will not
pick up the phone. They're thinking if a trade doesn't
get done, they're not even going to play Anthony Davis.
They're not even to the simmering stage yet. They're they're
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in the bitter stage. Maybe no yelling and screaming, but
they're in the bitterness stage. Pelican fans, never forget this.
NBA already bailed you out once, Chris Paul deal. Okay, okay,
just remember that, and you have to remember this for
people in New Orleans. In every league, college or pro,
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there are destinations with historic advantages. LSU football will forever
be more attractive place than Missouri football or Kentucky football
or Vanderville football. Forever, one hundred years from now, LSU
will be a cooler place to play college football than Missouri,
then Mississippi State. Not saying those programs aren't good, but
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it'll always be cooler. By the way, in the NFL,
Green Bay and Buffalo will never be top free agent markets.
One's been to four Super Bowls, lost all of them,
but got to four, and Green Bay won it. Was far.
They went it with Bart Starr, and they went it
with Aaron Rodgers. They've had to overcome that New Orleans
is never going to be a free agent destination. Either
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was Cleveland until a kid named Lebron was born in Akron.
Either was Orlando and they got to two finals. There
are certain absolute truths in college sports. Kentucky basketball is
always gonna matter more than Oregon State basketball forever. Alabama
football is always gonna mean more than Kentucky football forever.
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And there are certain markets in the NBA. Sacramento is
never going to be a glamor market. New Orleans, Orlando
are never going to be a glamor market. But look
on the bright side, Anthony Davis gave you a heads up.
He's like, yeah, I'm not gonna stay here. By the way,
the next guy you drafted, he's as good as Anthony Davis.
You've got about six years with him, and then he'll
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also decide, yeah, I'm not gonna stay here. You got
six years with him. Now he's giving your heads up,
So go get three or four players, two or three
draft picks. Reboot just because a star leaves, What did
you lose in this whole deal. You had him for
six years. You were one and eight against the Warriors
in the playoffs. You weren't doing anything with him. By
the way, the Washington Wizard Star got hurt John Wall,
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they're better without him. You've seen in the right last
two years when he gets hurt. The Boston Celtics got
to the Eastern Conference Finals Game seven. This year. They
got their stars back. Gordon Haywards clogged everything up. They
were better last year. By the way. The Indiana Pacers,
Paul George says, I'm out of here. He gave my
heads up. The Pacers front office, Kevin Pitcher did a
great job. They're better without Paul George. You just have
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to come to the realization there are certain truths in sports.
The Oakland Days have won a lot of games. It's
not where free agents go. The San Antonio Spurs, it's
not where free agents go. Does it mean he can't win?
Green Bay Packers in Buffalo won They've been new Between
the two of them, what ten Super Bowls? Free Agents
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don't want to go there. There's different ways to win
in sports. Anthony Davis is never gonna be built for
fourteen years in New Orleans. If you get a guy
like Anthony Davis, you're gonna get him for his first contract,
the way the NBA contract work. You'll get him for
a second, but he's not signing a third there And
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you got in Cleveland. You got Lebron for a contract
and then a second contract, and then he went to Miami.
You didn't get a third straight contract out and when
he came back, he did one year deals. You can't
get stars in those markets. You're not getting a third
contract out of them. You get their rookie deal, then
they resigned to make the first big money of their life,
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and then they're generally gone. Okay, so you have your
six years. If you're Cleveland with Lebron, you couldn't do anything.
You've had your six years with Anthony Davis. Drew Holliday's
your next best player, couldn't do anything. But this is
not even The Yankees are a glamor market. The Red
Sox are a glamour market. Okay. LSU football is a
glamour program. Texas football is a glamour program. But right now,
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in the divorce stage, the Pelicans are in the bitterness stage.
And I would strongly recommend you get to the simmering stage,
and you get to the Septon stage because you better
pick up the phone. Get three players, maybe four, get
several draft picks. Reboot. It's been proven time and time again.
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The way you're gonna get stars is draft them. You'll
get them for six years, but you're not getting them
for a third contract. Lakers will keep theirs, Yankees can
keep theirs. Red Sox can keep theirs. LSU football will
keep the best high school players in their state. Just
the way the game works. No reason to pout about it.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
(11:34):
in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
FS one and the iHeartRadio app. It's very important that
for a radio show for a football team. If I
say New England Patriots, their brand is system over player,
really really smart. You know that's important. That's their brand.
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Golden State Warriors analytics, very comfortable with stars, they shoot
the three. That's their brand. You know what you're getting
when you're going in. So everybody in the building knows
this is what we are. New England. We draft smart players,
we don't draft egos. Its system. It helps the scouts,
it helps the coach, it helps the staff, it helps
the owner, it helps everybody, Golden State. If you can't
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shoot threes, we don't have a lot of need for you.
If you can't deal with other people and handle stars,
we don't have much need for you. Establishing a brand
is very important, from the owner to the GM to
the coach in sports. Out of sports, DeShawn Jackson yesterday,
and we predicted this. We said, if the Rams get
to the super Bowl and win it, win it or
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not get there, they are establishing a brand in this league.
And remember that, Lavian Bell tweeted a week ago. He
tweeted about the Rams. He said, hey, look what they're doing.
It's working for them. Lavian Bell is saying, as a
star player on the market as a team as I
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like that team, I like what they do well. DeShawn Jackson,
not even a free agent yet, talked about where he'd
love to end up worst case scenari if anything, I
would like to kind of end up in La Oh, yeah,
you know, we got some connections, yeah, DC. But you know,
we'll see how it plays up there. You go, think
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about this, The La Rams have not been in this
city for a full three years yet and they've already
established their brand. They are officially the glamor franchise in
the NFL. Not saying the best with the glamour franchise.
They're fun. Stars are welcome. We'll take divas, lots of offense.
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We don't make you play in the preseason. Our practices
aren't burdensome. They've already gott now play. It's very NBA
feel to it. Stars are absolutely welcome here. And you
know who deserves credit on this, Jerry Jones of the Cowboys.
This organization was in the NFL forever in Saint Louis
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and they didn't have any brand. They were Tampa, they
were Detroit, they were Jacksonville, they were the Jets, they
were Arizona. What's their brand? What's their point of view?
What are they? Okay? Jerry Jones went to the owner,
Stan Cronki, They're very close, have been for years, done
business for years, and said, get this thing to La Go.
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You got a bunch of land in Los Angeles, build
a stadium. Okay, I'll go to the owners, get to
Los Angeles. Help our league even though their rivals, even
though they're in the NFC. Jerry Jones told Stan Cronky.
Jerry Jones also got Oakland to Las Vegas. Jerry has
been on the forefront of convincing other owners for years
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and years. NFL was anti Vegas. Jerry got into a
room and convinced them those days are over. Wasn't much
long after gambling, sports, gambling egalies in America. Jerry very much.
People don't like to move. Team said, let's get to
Los Angeles. Stan Cronky's like, I'm not sure how this
is gonna play. Jerry said, you got a bunch of
land out there, go build a stadium. Less than three
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years in the league, the Rams already have a brand established.
And by the way, this is what every league is
looking for. The Celtics have a historic brand, The Lakers
have a brand. Golden State now has a brand. The
problem with the Knicks is they don't have a brand.
That's why it's an underperforming franchise. NFL loves brands. Green
Bay's got a brand, great quarterbacks, you know, the wholesome
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city in a small town. Green Bay's a brand. The Cowboys,
the Steelers, the Patriots. I mean this is give Jerry
Jones credit. He got stand cronky in this league. They
didn't want to do it. They didn't move teams in
a while, he got him to move to LA and
three years in we have another established brand and it's
the Glitz Glimmer brand in the NFL saand's gonna win
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a bunch of Super Bowls. But brands are important and
Jerry deserves a lot of credit. Be sure to catch
live editions of the Herd weekdays in neun Easter nay
Em Pacific. Let's go to Greg Olson via the Coward
Global satellite net were twelve NFL seasons, three time pro bowler.
My guess is he's going to end up in the
Hall of Fame, and he's also if he wants to quit,
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it's gonna have multiple networks bidding for his rights as
a broadcaster. Greg, it's good to see you again. I
want to I want to throw us up mountain. You
tell me it's an advantage. So the New England Patriots,
Stefan Gilmore played for four years in a row with
Robert Woods of the Rams. Knows every move. The Patriots
faced Robert Woods for years. The Patriots, by the way,
had Brandon Cook for a year. They know his strengths
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and weaknesses. The Patriots had a key to lead for
two years. Isn't an advantage for the Patriots that they
know key members of the RAMS personnel? Yeah, I think
to a degree. I think especially a team like New England, right,
who is so interested in turning over every stone gaining
every advantage possible, they think of every single scenario. Yeah,
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they know if Robert Woods struggles with press verse off.
They know what routes he struggles getting in and out
of breaks should we you know, they know the intricacies.
They saw him every day in practice. Their coaches knew
what he struggled with, what he couldn't do, you know,
Brandon Cooks. I'm saying so like they understand what these
guys can and can do better than almost anyone playing
against Robert Woods up in Buffalo. They can see what
he does. You know, I think there is something too that. Now, again,
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it's a different scheme. You know, Sean McVay is going
to have his counter to that, right, They're gonna have
their counter to Belichick taken away. You know what La
is going to do. So I think that chess match
is interesting, But I don't think there's anyone better at
isolating your weaknesses and exploiting them more than Belichick and
just generally the Patriots. You know, you were at a
super Bowl, and the super Bowl the first one I
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have Russell Wilson on next hour, he went to two.
His first one is the week of practice and the
extra week and the relatives and the tickets is the
It wasn't hard. Was it a different week? It's definitely
a different you know, it's really a different two weeks.
You know. We you do a whole week of practice
on the front end, back of your facility back home.
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Then we traveled on Sunday, had a practice Monday, and
then went through another entire prepper week. It almost was
too much practice, too much downtime, too much meetings. You know,
you can kind of overthink it. You know. We're so
routine oriented calling in the NFL, where every Wednesday's a Wednesday,
every Thursday's a Thursday, and we just clip off week
after week after week, and when you're rolling, you don't
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want to buy Well, we were rolling off the NFC championship.
We just put up forty five plus points against the Cardinals,
you know, one of the top teams in the league
that year, and got to buy that We didn't, you know,
in essence, had an extra week, and you know it
hurt us. We really peaked two weeks too early. And offensively,
we just really played poorly, and I think we didn't
do a great job handling the changes that that that
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Super Bowl build up led to, and as a result,
we squandered a really a really promising opportunity. Are you
or how surprised are you that the Rams got to
leave and Marcus Peters and and Dominican Sue and Dante Fowler,
guys who had either underachieved, Guys who had at times
had you know, a little baggage here and there, and
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yet it's worked. Greg, as you watched the Rams from Afar,
were you kind of surprised they were able to take
a young quarterback, a young coach, superstar running back, free
agent trade guy with a little baggage and it all
kind of worked. It surprised you, you know, I didn't
know a lot about Sean mcveay, you know, coming from
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his background with Washington and got that job. I think
everyone had the same reaction. I just don't think anyone
who watches closely, someone who follows the game, I don't
think it took long to realize there was something unique
about him. There was something and I'm not talking about
his play design and scheme. I think when you hear
him talk. I interacted with him a little bit last
year when I ran into him at NFL Honors, and
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you can be around him for a couple of minutes
and he just has a very unique kind of corre
isma that comes across. And again, let's not forget here's
a young guy that's being questioned. Be very easy for
him getting in this job, to be very insecure, surround
himself with his people. And who does he hire. He
hires Wade Phillips. He hires a guy that if he
gets off to a really bad start out there, coming
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off a terrible couple years with Jeff Fisher, if he
gets off to a similar start, that's the coach, interim
coach in waiting on your staff. He was confident in himself, saying, listen,
I don't have all the answers. I can deliver a message.
I can run an offense, but I'm gonna get an
associate head coach in essence to run the defense and
someone that I can lean on. I think that move
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sums up what is very in a very selfish and
a very uncomfortable NFL world that we create. Sean McVay
was so confident in himself, he was not threatened by anybody,
by the way, How do players look at Brady not
just as longevity, but the fact that he's done something
which is generally not cool. He's taken pay cuts. He's
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done it like Tim Duncan. I mean, he's going to
sign another extension. He's gonna probably make about fifteen million
a year, which makes him the twenty eight highest paid quarterback.
Are there a few guys in the league that look
at Brady and think, Okay, enough is enough. You're killing
us here on the free agent market. I'm sure there are,
and I think he's He's learned a long time ago
that you know, striking while it's hot and maximizing your
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pay is not always in your best interest. Sustain success
both individually and as a team. That's the true ticket, right,
That's the true path towards making a lot of money
being the best player of all time. There's a lot
that goes into it. In today's world, with the quarterbacks
around the league taking up as big a percentage of
the cap that they are, you know, you've got guys
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making thirty plus million dollars a year on one hundred
and fifty one hundred and sixty million dollars cap. There's
only so much now to go around you. And I
think he's he's understood that for a long time. He
has a unique situation obviously with his ability to generate
income in other areas. But you know, winning has been
that's the backbone of his career. He's not you know,
not the yards, not the touchdowns. Winning is what he's
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known as. And I think he would take that over
every other you know, recognition, every other record that you
could throw out there. Okay, you've played twelve years, you've
had some injuries. How shocked are you? And I know
tight ends a much more physically imposing position, more daunting
than a quarterback, But are you kind of shocked that
Brady against the Chargers, that's as good as I've ever
seen him play? Like you ever? Just go is it
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the Kale pajamas? I mean, are you kind of amazed
by it? It is? I mean, listen, he has really
devoted his entire lifestyle to playing quarterback for a long time,
and at a high level. In a very late stage
of his life, and you know, to be talking about
playing into his mid forties, late forties is almost unheard of.
And it's not even so much that he's able to play,
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it's that he's able to lead his team to the
super Bowl and not just be a member. Right, So
we played Payton Manning that year in the Super Bowl.
He's Payton Manning. He's an all time great player. That
defense and that circumstance is what, at least in the
Super Bowl beat us. Brady is still the number one
factor preparing to play it at his stage of his career.
That's unheard of. It's it's truly remarkable. A lot of
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it's his preparation, his mindset, his training routine. It's a
little different, but it works. It works with what he's
asked to do. It works within the scheme of what
he's asked to do. He's not going to run around,
he's not looking to be a hero and get hit.
He's gonna just stand there and throw the ball. And
as long as his arm works and his brain works,
he's in good shape. Greg continued success. You're one of
the good guys. Thanks Bud, Thank you, always enjoy it.
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Russell Wilson super Bowl Champ. Been to a couple of
these things. Great to see your rust. You're ready to go.
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I know you'd rather actually be in the game, but
I want you to take my audience back to your
first Super Bowl. A lot of media you were becoming
a star, A million requests. Did you find it like
the Rams this week, a little disruptive and out of
your usual habits? No, I think that you're prepared for it.
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You know, I've actually prepared for it the year before.
You go back to two thousand and twelve. You know,
I think about my rookie year. I actually actually went
to the Super Bowl to experience all that, to understand
what it would be like just in case I went
in the next year or whenever it would be, and
so I prepared for that. I prepared for what the
half time would be like. I'll be prepared for what
the media could be like potentially, and so that helped
me going into twenty thirteen being prepared for it. Hey,
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you know what, embrace it, don't don't fear it. And
so you know, listen, you either love the big moments
that you don't. And I think that you look forward
to him. I definitely look forward to him, that's for sure.
You know, it's interesting. I've heard players say this before
that as a quarterback, you can be excited ross but
you can't get too excited because it'll hurt your accuracy.
You know, you'll you'll you'll be too amped up the
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first series up the game. Do you remember it? Do
you remember trying to kind of control your energy? Can
you take us back there? Yeah? I felt I felt
cold as eyes, I felt ready to go. I felt
like it was I was meant to be there, you know,
I was. There's a saying that I always tell myself,
I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, and that
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kind of just gets my my my mind, right, you know,
funny things about the coin toss. One of my favorite
things about the Super Bowl, going back and even watching
all the Super Bowls and in the past, you know,
twenty plus years of my life. You know. It was
one of my favorite things of the coin toss. And
why it's because you realize you're actually at the Super Bowl.
Because the flashing lights, right, you know, people kick up
the ball off and everything else. And I'll never get
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this funny story. I would go out for the coin
toss and Peyton Manning's coming across the way, you know, uh,
you know, Champ Bailey And next thing I know, I
go out for the coin toss and it's and it's uh,
you know, it's Joe Namath out there ready to do
the coin toss. And we we flipped the we flipped
the coin and he flips it too early, right, he
flips the coin toss too early, and the ref catches
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in the mid air. He said, hey, hey, Joe, we
gotta let him call heads or tails, you know, and
he goes, he goes, he goes to me, he goes.
You know, Russell, I always had a quick release, you know,
so that kind of that kind of broke the ice
for me pretty early. Yeah. Did you know you faced
the Rams twice this year? Now, Ross, and they were
really really good games. In fact, the first game they
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may have been undefeated. They were on a roll and
you guys, it came down to the last play. Take
my audience, Russell into what that defensive front is like.
They have a very aggressive, talented secondary. What do the
Rams do that you found, you know, disruptive or difficult defensively? Well,
I think you know, going back to those games, you know,
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we were right there at the first game we played
at home, I think there were eight o seven and
oh at the time. Yep, we had unbelievable game. Scored
thirty one points in that game. We had the ball
in the thirty one yard line going in with less
than two minutes ago, I believe, and we get two
penalties in a row. Unfortunately, Yeah, kicks us out of
field goal range. We don't get to win the game
to kick a field goal store touchdow, you know. And
then they end up winning a game. The second time,
we go to a tough environment in La all the
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Malibu fires were happening, is very emotional game. Yeah, we
go back and forth. We scored thirty one again, maybe
even more, and they scored. They end up scoring a
couple more points than us again. So um, you know,
I think the thing about their defensive line. It starts
with Aaron Donald. You got a double team this guy
all game, all day. But the problem is you got
in the Dominican sus sitting next to him. And the
biggest thing they did was they got Fowler, which is
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the biggest acquisition they had really throughout the season. Yeah,
who makes plays and out to leaves back. So they're
gonna be ready to play some football. They're a very
very good football team. Now let's talk now about facing Belichick.
You had success, you move the ball. In fact, I
remember in the second half you have a lead on them,
and most teams in the second half. You know, the
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offense dries up against New England. It did not with
you in the Seahawks. So let's go back to that.
What did Bill throw at you, Belichick? That was a
little wrinkle Russ. Yeah, well, you know what they did
to us. You know, first of all, that they just rushed.
You know, they would only rush two guys at a time,
So I'll be sitting there just kind of hanging out.
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They drop everybody else out and we were able to
make a lot of big plays down the field and
make some key crucial plays throughout that game. Uh, and
the super Bowl, and obviously the last one didn't work
the way we wanted to. But you know, they end
up we were we had the lead, they end up
coming back unfortunately with I don't know, six minutes to go,
and we we end up we end up getting the
ball two minutes and I look forward to those moments.
We go all the way down the field and unfortunately
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doesn't work out for us. But the other two times
we played them too. In my rookie year we played
them at home, and then the year after that, I
believe after the Super Bowl m we played them at
New England and it was a back and fourth game.
We end up scoring a bunch of points. They end
up scoring some points too as well, and it comes
down to the fourth, fourth down and one Tom has
the ball in the one yard line and they don't
get it. So, uh, you know, listen, this is gonna
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be a tremendous game. I think that the thing about
Bill Belichicki's he's gonna have a note card of defensive calls.
He's not gonna try to do too much. He's gonna
do it right, and you got to execute better than
they do. And finally, Russ, when when you look at
you faced Jared Goff, and I remember, I think you
said this once to me that you came into the
league and it was about year three when everything kind
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of clicked. The game slows down. It's hard for young guys.
Now Goff now is in year three and you were
successful before that, but it is hard to go from
the Big ten, the Pac twelve to NFL schemes and defenses.
So Jared Goff, now you've seen a lot of him
the last couple of years. What do you like about him? Well,
he's poised, he's calm, he's got a great coach. They
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got great players around him. You know, I think the
thing about this game is he's just got to do
what he does best, you know, and facilitate the ball,
make his big throws. Um. You know, I really like
his demeanor a lot. So he's he's gone a great
player for a long time. Okay, Russ has been on
Team Bows forever. By the way, I got one of
those radio since twenty fourteen. You're also teaming with a
free app called Tally. What is it? Well, you know,
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first of all, with both, it's super exciting. I got
these new frames, by the way, they're pretty sick. Okay,
there's there's these glasses. You know, I'm I'm walking around
the streets of Atlanta, you know, hot Landau with these
glasses on listen to my music, you know, Sierra's performer nights.
I'm getting my mind right. And then uh and then
with uh with with with you know obviously that you
mentioned the Tally app. Tally's pretty cool. It's predict fun
predictions game where it's free to play and people get
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to play it. It's basically twelve question think HQ, but
for live events, live moments like the super Bowl, live
moment moments like NBA Finals, NBA games, Uh, the Bachelor,
even you know, the Oscars, the Grammys, those moments are
always great. So uh, we've you know, there's this new
app called you know that it's it's called Tally. Go
download it, play tally dot com. It's a lot of
fun and you know from this game, you can win
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up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars if you
get it all all the answers right. So everybody should
go play. It's it's super exciting. It's a lot of fun,
So go play Tally. It's a lot that's really cool.
And I'm gonna do it while I'm wearing these glasses
while I do it. Colin, if you don't mind, now,
I don't mind. My sister never like sports until Russell
wilson Um became the Seahawk orderback. And you're my sister's
favorite player and the only reason my sister never liked sports.
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And I was a sports junkie. So you've made the
family closer. I'm a huge fan. I love having you
and Ross. Good luck to you. What's always a pleasure. Man,
Go Hawks, I'll see you soon. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter nine
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the
iHeart Radio app. It's funny about the word committed, and
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you know Brady's taken commitment to a new level. He
won't drink a beer during the season. You know, like
that's that's true. That that I you know, and we
talk about on this show. The audience doesn't see it,
but we come in for two and a half hours
every day. We sit and just bang on a table
trying to get topics. You know, we've all had the
more or less successful person in our family where they
think forty five hours a week is really committed, and
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you're like, I work sixty five hours a week. That's
why I'm more successful. Commitments are really interesting word. What
is truly committed? One of the things where like Brady
and him Duncan are more committed than I think a
Lebron James. Lebron James is physically committed, he's mentally committed.
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But Lebron James doesn't have to take the salary he
takes Duncan and Brady. Their commitment isn't just a body,
isn't just a practice, isn't just too lifestyle. It's to
the commitment. I'm going to take less. Now. I know
Tom's married to a supermodel. He has all that ancillary income.
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Well so does Lebron. It's called a billion dollar lifetime
Nike contract. Lebron makes more money with Nike Aaron Rodgers
makes over ten million a year with commercials like commitments
a funny word. What Brady and Tim Duncan have done
is I'm not just committed at practice, to schemes, to
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being amenable to coaching. I'm so committed in a salary
cap league, I'm gonna take less money. That's a different
level that Lebron doesn't do. Kobe would not do, Aaron's
not willing to do for a long time. Drew Brees
would not do it. And I just don't think we
ever think about that. And I know what you say, Well,
Brady's got a supermodel wife. Aaron Rodgers makes over ten
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million dollars a year. I've been told on commercials he
doesn't have to take thirty three million. He could take
twenty seven and they could have two more players. And
I'm not, you know, I'm not. I'm just saying, what
does commitment mean? You think prepping for a radio show
forty minutes his commitment. I see two and a half hours.
Rush Limbaugh may do four and a half hours. I
think one of the great because I just saw a
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story here where Robert Kraft is open to extending Tom Brady.
And Brady right now is the twenty seventh highest paid
quarterback in the Nfowl. And you could say, well, he's
got money, but it's all about respect an ego. I mean,
Tom obviously doesn't need money, he'll never spend it. Well,
either's Lebron. I mean Tim Duncan. When you're able to
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be still at the top of your game. And I
keep staying Brady and Duncan because I don't think they're
the best they've ever been. I do think there is
some erosion, but you know, Duncan want to title over
Miami late in his career. But it's a commitment. If
you want to go really deep on commitment, some of
it is in a salary cap league. I'll take less.
And by the way, before you say, well, that's by
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the way, NBA players take less all the time. Kevin
Durant took less to go to Golden State, Anthony Davis
is going to take less to go to the Lakers.
Chris boss In Wade took class. Took class. So don't
tell me players won't take less. NBA players take less
all the time. Lebron could easily more than any player,
get paid significantly less and not demand it if he could.
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You know, the union obviously wants him to take the most,
but I would say this with all players. We don't
consider Brady's willingness to constantly restructure his deal as a thing,
and we never talked about it with Tim Duncan. But
there's no question the Patriots dynasty has been extended due
to it, and the Spurs dynasty was extended to Duncan's selflessness.
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Didn't have to just didn't take the money, So I
don't just buy it to ohas you know Tom Brady's
wife's a billionaire. Well, these NBA guys make so much
money on shoes and merchandise that NFL guys don't. Tom
Brady didn't make any money on his cleats. These NBA
guys make Derrek Rose made one hundred million dollars on
shoes and he barely wore him because he was never healthy.
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NBA guys make a fortune on gear. They're like golfers.
So what's your commitment? How deep does it go? By
the way Nick Wright earlier this morning on what Brady
should look for in his next deal, I would try
to exert a little bit of leverage and say, hey,
I have taken below market deals every year. I will
continue to do that for you. But I've said I
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want to play to long forty five. I want this
contract to take me till I'm forty five. That's a
three year deal and i'd like it to be guaranteed.
So if you want me to play for fifteen to
eighteen million a year, the way I have been over
the last four years, when other guys are getting twenty
eight Rogers and Stafford getting thirty plus. I will play
for half of my market value, but I want three
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years forty five million. Call it that tacked onto the
end of it, and go ahead and make that a
fully guaranteed contract. I think now that's it's a very
interesting proposition. I'll ask you, Joy, if Brady told you
I'll take fifteen million a year that is in the
to Rod Taylor class, I'll take it, but you gotta
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get me three years. You own the Patriots, would you
do it? Yes, of course you do it. Well, I
would too. I'm just yeah. I mean, because let's say
you get two more years at this kind of level.
Who cares if at that point, Well, if he said
he's gonna play to forty five, Yeah, if he's asking
for a deal, it takes him to forty five and
it's guaranteed. Then before his last year, if you see
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any erosion, yeah, you draft a quarterback, right, or you
make provisions. He's told you he's going to play that long. Yeah,
we know that he's not gonna play till he's fifty,
or I don't know. I actually I can't really say that.
We're not gonna assume he's not going to play that
long at this level. So you he's giving you the
opportunity to make those plans if he sticks to that.
By the way, I've been told this year by somebody
I trust, New England has twelve picks they will draft
a quarterback. Now it'll probably be it will not I
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don't think it'll be their first two picks. But remember
New England's got six picks in the first three rounds.
That is a lot of picks. So I think New
England's gonna draft a quarterback with one of their first
six picks. Now they're gonna go to find a nag rusher.
They want another corner. That they're a tight end is
a huge need for them. And by the way, that
means nothing that they're gonna take a quarterback. No, but sure.
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I always said if I ran an NFL franchise, I
would draft a quarterback every year. Now some years it
would be like John Elway got the kid from Northwestern
in the seventh round. But it doesn't even if I
have Jared Goff and I'm the Rams and I have
my full compliment of picks. Draft picks are like forty
fifty percent. Once you get past the second round, I'm
making the league. I take a quarterback either every year
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or two out of three years. You just don't know
when you're gonna find a jam. And by the way,
if they do become Garoppolo on a Gem, well you
got either a great backup or you got trade value. Yeah.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd week
dayson noon Easter nine a Empacific. By the way, I
was talking to a scout in the NFL last night
and he said, it's a real thing. He said, don't
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kid yourself. He goes a really big advantage for the Patriots,
and he goes, I don't think it's just a small
advantage it. Belichick is really good once guys get into
the league. Bills made some mistakes in the draft, okay,
but he said, once guys get into the league, Bills
a great town evaluator. Once guys get into the league.
On what fits, how to stop players, and the Rams
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two biggest offensive threats on the perimeter. Brandon Cooks played
for the Patriots last years. All of his straints, all
of his weaknesses, what routes he runs well, what routes
he doesn't. And so the Patriots have intimate knowledge of
Brandon Cooks, what he can do, what he can't. All
those corners for New England, they've all covered him at
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practice for a year. That is a big advantage for
New England and Robert Woods. Robert Woods played for four
years in Buffalo. Belichick has faced Robert Woods many many times.
And to add to that, Stefan Gilmore, the best corner
for the Patriots, played with Robert Woods for four years.
You don't think Stefan Gilmore knows every single move of
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Robert Woods. The other thing is, so those two big
offensive weapons. This is what worries me for the Rams.
I don't know if Todd Gurley's healthy. So if Todd Gurley,
and I'm not sure he's been healthy since late October.
If Todd Gurley's not one hundred percent, and he wasn't
last week, he lost confidence. He couldn't catch, he couldn't block,
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there is a big advantage for New England here on
the perimeter. Belicheck knows NFL players. Now Again, he's not
always been the best drafter. He's made plenty of mistakes
once guy's getting the league. Bill knows weaknesses strengths. He's
really an NFL guy. He leans on Saban urban Meyer
some of his guys for college stuff, and people in
his staff for college stuff. Bill's not sitting on Saturday
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night watching hours and hours of college football. Some coaches do.
But he knows Brandon Cooks, and he knows Robert Woods.
Keep to Leeb was with him for two years in
the Patriot system, so he knows his vulnerabilities and his strengths.
Those are three really important players in this game. Robert Woods,
Brandon Cooks and the keep to Leeb all Rams all
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very very important players. And they know him really, really well.
And I haven't heard anybody talk about that. You know,
it's it's not maybe a you know, a sexy, glamorous topic,
but you know it's something well we've been talking about
it a lot. With the Todd Girley C. J. Anderson situation,
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it's a huge advantage for Bill Bilochick to not know
what's going on there because he always takes away your
biggest weapon, right, So if your biggest weapon in Todd
Gurley eliminates himself, I mean you assume that they're going
to do whatever they can to take Robert Woods out
of the game. If that's their number one receiver and
then the most reliable target. It's interesting, Joy, because I
don't know if I have Stefan Gilmore, I can put
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him on Robert Woods. I'm not sure I have to double.
I think that's a good matchup. I advantage nobody. I
think that's a really good matchup. You know, we asked
it this week. Is the number one weapon for the
Rams was Cooper Cup. It was Girley and Cooper Cup. Well,
Cooper Cup's gone and Jared Goff's numbers have come down.
I think if Cooper Cup was in this game and
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Todd Gurley, I knew one hundred percent healthy, I think
I take the RAMS. I mean I would have no problem.
My reluctance to take the Rams is all statistical. Cooper
Cup left, acl Goff's never quite been the same. That's
factual to the point where Sean McVay went and got
another running back because he knew they had to become
more run centric and and and for the record, should
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also be noted that you and I don't know how
healthy girl he is. Everybody on the internet last week
was was trying to figure out, you know, how healthy
is he. I don't know. I just know he wasn't
completely healthy, right,
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