February 1, 2019 • 38 mins
Colin warns people to slow down comparing Sean McVay to Bill Belichick after just two playoff victories. He thinks the Patriots are a lot like the Beatles and this season is their "Abbey Road." Plus, Rams legend and NFL Hall of Fame RB Eric Dickerson joins the show from Atlanta to talk about what the Rams need to do to upset the Patriots on Sunday. Presented by Perky Jerky.
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Lay it out for you, Joy, How are you great?
Sighting days? A lot done on there is a there
is a lot of NBA stuff, There's a lot of
NFL stuff. We'll go back and forth today on this.
I want us start here though, before I get to
the NBA stuff, and I've got a lot of NBA
stuff to talk about today on the phone, texting, talking
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last twenty four hours. Let me start with us though.
Sean McVay is thirty three years old. That is half
the age of Bill Belichick, who's sixty six. He is
the hot new boy genius and he has earned all
of it. He is sharp, he is fun, he is smart,
he is relatable. And when you put the resumes next
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to Bill Belichick, who wait a minute, dead, they're not close.
I mean not really even close. Sean McVay has two
wins that anybody in this league historically would care about.
He beat the Cowboys off a buy at home, got
a few calls, and he beat the Saints on the
road and got a big call. Now, I do think
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the Rams are better than both of those teams, but
that's it. Two wins, that's it. We love in the
NFL to anoint the next dynasty. Anybody's seen Philadelphia this week?
Anybody's seen the Eagles? I can't. I can't. Well, they're
nowhere to be found. That's because what happened to Philadelphia
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is what happens to virtually everybody not named the Patriots.
I want to remind you something about the Los Angeles Rams.
They are in a division that's really good in getting
better San Francisco. Kyle Shanahan Jimmy Garoppolo, Seattle, Pete Carroll,
Russell Wilson. They've already locked in three of their stars,
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Big Boy Money, Aaron Donald, Todd Gurley and Brandon Cooks.
And oh, by the way, Gurley showing signs of wear
and tear. They're going to eventually pretty soon here have
to pay Jared Goff a lot of money will limit
who they can sign. And oh, by the way, their
offensive line is old and getting really old fast. And
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I want to remind you of the four franchises we
were absolutely sure that we're going to take over this league.
The Saint Louis Rams and Kurt Warner, fastest show on turf,
and who ended their dynasty? New England, the Seattle Seahawks,
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Russell that defense, the Legion of Boom, who ended that dynasty?
The New England Patriots, the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're getting big
bend getting to super Bowls and who has really ended
that dynasty? Haven't been there in seven years to the
Super Bowl. The New England Patriots and Peyton Manning was
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gonna wreck this league. Remember Colts gonna go to like
ten super Bowls. Eight He won one super Bowl in Indianapolis,
why four for four the New England Patriots. They are favored,
they are more experienced, they are going to reload. Brady
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played his best game in years against the Chargers. They're
probably most believed going to win Sunday. And it should
be noted they've got a big edge in this game.
The two wide receivers for the Rams, one's a former
Patriot and the Patriots best corner guarded the other one
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Robert Woods for four years in Buffalo. We love to
annoint the next dynasty. Four of them have all ended
due to Belichick and Brady. All right, let's segue into this.
Oh lordy, lordy, lordy. Next Thursday is the NBA trading deadline.
And you and I know the NBA is changing. These days,
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players have more power. But it should be noted it's
been a players league since I started watching it in
nineteen seventy two. It was a players league then it
really was. Coaches didn't get fired as often, but they
got fired. Wilt didn't, Jerry West didn't, Elgin Baylor didn't. Okay,
it's always been a players league. Well yesterday, oh today,
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there's a lot of stuff freaking people out. Anthony Davis
has said I want to be a Laker and play
with a great player. Oohs, that's never happened before. Oh wait,
it's happened a million times. Poor Zingis wasn't happy with
the Knicks, and so he went to very aggressive owner
of the Dallas Mavericks, Mark Cuban, And now the Knicks
have the availability for two stars in free agency. That's bad.
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Kyrie Irving said this morning, I don't know anybody anything.
I don't owe the Celtics anything. And people are freaking
out because Kyrie Irving doesn't oh the Celtics anything. Charles
Barkley was on TV last night. He is beside himself,
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adam self, I need to block that trade. Why. I
don't like what the Lakers are doing. I don't think
it is right. I don't think the Lakers are doing Yes,
I don't think what did they do? We're collusion, you
know it's collusion. Let's take you something. Chris Paul got
mad at me because I said a month ago to
fix us in and the Davids going to the Lakers,
and he didn't like me saying the fix was in.
The fix has been in. I don't I think commister Sterne,
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who I like a lot. Did you come and says, hey,
we can trade out to Davis, but he cannot go
to the Lakers. We cannot have players and agents colluding
to set the stack superteam. What timeout time out My
entire life, and I've said this one hundred times. Agents
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and shoe companies and stars have controlled this league. What's
different now? What's different is Lebron is friends with Rich
Paul and the billionaires don't like it. But folks, if
you're in your twenties and thirties, you don't know who
David Falk is or Arne tell Um. They ran this
league for three decades. David Falk was so powerful they
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called him the invisible hand in union negotiations. The NBA
had a lockout and then ended a lockout, and David
Stern and David Falk were controlling it. He was an agent.
Arn Tellum had Shack and had Kobe, and David Falk
had Michael Jordan, and he had Iverson and he had Ewing,
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and those two agents controlled the NBA for years along
with Nike. That's been the league forever. What's different now?
What's different is Lebron is friends with Rich Paul. Call
me crazy, But wasn't David Falk one of Michael Jordan's guys.
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Of course, wasn't Arne tell Um really close to Kobe
may still be? Yes, that's an agent's job to be
your friend. I've got an agent. We're good friends. Why
I trust him. That's the same way Michael and Ewing
and Iverson all felt about David Falk. They were friends,
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a lot of stakes, a lot of cigars, a lot
of laughs, a lot of champagne together, private jets together,
golf tournaments together. So because Lebron's buddies would Rich Paul,
everybody's worked up Anthony Davis to the Lakers. Yeah, that's
never happened. A great player wants to leave his crappy
team and go to Lebron in LA. Yeah, that's just
crazy talk. It's been happening for fifty years. Wilt became
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a Laker and Shack became a Laker. Where did Shack
leave a small southern franchise? Kareem left Milwaukee a small
Midwest franchise. Come on, nothing crazy here. We had a
bunch of player movement yesterday. It was called good. Dallas
rolled the dice on poors ingas he's seven foot three
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and a half a slasher, he is brittle, he's coming
off a nasty injury. I don't know if I want
to pay him max money. I kind of like what
the Knicks half, but I haven't liked what the Knicks
have done for ten years. That was the first time
I kind of looked at the next and went wow,
I kind of got their act together. Fear drives ratings
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in politics Fox News and MSNBC in the World's gonna
end and Republicans are the end of the world, and
liberals are the end of the world. Everybody's away was
telling me the NBA is too top heavy. Tell me
the last time it wasn't. People are telling me stars
have too much power. Tell me the last time they didn't.
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Burden Magic, not a commissioner saved the league. Michael Jordan,
not a commissioner, made it global. Kobe Lebron shack. Nobody's
watching for owners. This league has been controlled by David Falk.
Aren't tell him Rich Paul Lebron, James Magic Johnson, Larry Bird.
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Sometimes a commissioner doesn't have a lot of power. Let's
all stop the fear mongering in the the Oh my god,
the World's gonna end stars in the NBA. Here's what's happened.
David Stern saved this league. It was not doing well financially,
and David Stern said, let's make it about the name
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on the back of the jersey. Put it on the front.
Give guys marketing and Nike and McDonald's, and it has,
you know, gassed up some of these players. They feel
pretty empowered, like any of us would. And now suddenly
the players talk and text and share the same agents
and say, you know what, we deserve a little more power.
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Not the IVY League agent, not the billionaire owner that
doesn't even understand basketball. It's all gonna be okay. The
Knicks are finally relevant. Dallas rolled that dies. The Lakers
are gonna be good again. They're gonna get Anthony Davis Kyrie.
Maybe he stays in Boston, maybe he doesn't, but it's
a captivating story whatever happens to him. But I disagree
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with Charles Barkley. It's not collusion, it's empowerment. I've moved,
you'll move, stars moved. Anthony Davis has given the Pelicans
six years. Lebron initially gave the camp seven. I've watched NBA,
NFL guys like Elway and Eli Manning stay, I'll never
play for that franchise. NBA guys are giving you six
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seven years. They just get tired of it and want
to go somewhere else and play with their friends. It's
all good. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Herd weekdays and noon Eastern a Empacific on Fox Sports
Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. I understand why
Cam Newton, big personality, stylish, Baker Mayfield, Aaron Rodgers, big band,
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Jamis Winston, a lot of fun, big quotes, lot of drama.
I understand why they're popular, and they're all really talented.
But I said it with Baker Mayfield. For me, as
a GM not draftable, you go ahead. I'm not interested
at the quarterback position. I'm looking for even keel, no peaks,
no valleys. I don't care my wide receivers, you know,
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my middle linebacker, my safety, my tight end, big personality guys,
but this is somebody that's running my franchise in crisis.
I need him to walk into the huddle and say,
s I got this. Rob Hammnstein's a great offensive lineman
for the Rams. The perception is Jared Goff doesn't have
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a huge personality and doesn't have a commanding presence. Against
the Saints late in the game, he came into the huddle,
according to Rob and basically dropped F bombs and said
be quiet, I'll take care of things. This is mine.
Andrew Whitworth doubled down on the comments Jared Goff is
not a lot of noise, is not a lot of personality,
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is not a lot of drama. But he showed in
crisis he can grab the room, grab the huddle. He
talked about his personality at the super Bowl earlier this week,
something that I was kind of born with and how
I grew up and how I've been and you know,
I probably attribute it to my parents and the way
they raised me and just try to understand that it's
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still just a game and have fun with it. You
are who you are. I think there's plenty of different
personalities around the league and at different positions, and I think,
you know, for myself, personally, I like to take a
certain approach just the way I am, and I know
for some guys it's a different approach, and I think
whatever works is what you should do. Through for forty
seven hundred yards this year and thirty two touchdowns. That's
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with a Todd Gurley who was never the same in November,
in December, and losing his favorite target, Cooper Cup early
in the year to an acl. What he does have, though,
is he has traits that I admire for a quarterback,
not everybody. Maturity, temperament, professionalism. He outplayed Drew Breese late
in the Superdome that can't be understated. And for years
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and years everybody rolls their eyes. I've called it my
bore four. Boring Brady Breeze, Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson.
Those are my four favorite quarterbacks in the NFL. The
bore four even temperament, you know, an occasional fist pump,
an occasional get into the huddle and drop you know
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a word, but no quotes, even keel even temperament, I mean,
struggled to tell a joke. These are These are not hip,
They're not lit, they're not cool, they're not noisy, they're
not loud. That sometimes I would argue they all have
a little dorkiness. The boar four. If Jared goffwin Sunday,
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I'm going to insert him and add one more quarterback.
It will be called the flat five flat even keel,
no peak, no valley. It will be Brady and Goff, Breeze,
Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck. I like my quarterbacks, less ego,
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no quotes, don't care if you have style, you can
have a neck beard, you can be a little dorky.
You don't look great at the combine in your underwear
doesn't look like your bench press Rhode Island. I'm okay
with it. I like boring, I like flat personalities. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and
noon Easter nine am Pacific this season. If New England wins,
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it will be their greatest achievement generally over time. This
is the way it works. Dynasties fade, Shack and Kobe
lost their last finals together. Magic lost to Michael Jordan.
At the end, Lebron and the Heat ditto. That's the
way it works. Get kind of old at the end.
New England's had eight Super Bowl appearances. This is nine
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and it's the most impressive. Obstacles unraveling. Gronk and Brady
went anti Bill in the offseason for a month. There
was that Alex Guerrero situation where he got a little
too close to Tom Brady, several ugly road losses, Edelman
suspended controversy. Yet they destroyed the Chargers best roster I
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believe in football. And they went to Kansas City and
beat Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. And it's starting to
remind me of the Beatles. They were already the Beatles,
the Goat, they were already a musical dynasty. Their legacy
was intact. Suddenly you heard reports that John Lennon and
Paul McCartney couldn't be in the room together. Why because
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Lennon's wife, Yoko Ono, had gotten so close to John,
too close. She was offering progressive teachings like the Patriots,
Tom Brady and Alex Guerrero got so close with new
progressive healing measures that it kind of turned off Bill Belichick.
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He kicked Arrow off a plane. The Beatles were coming
apart of the seams unraveling. They're big four Lennon, McCartney,
Ringo Star and George Harrison, and the Patriots Big four Belichick,
Bob Kraft, Brady and Gronk similarly starting to unravel. But
then something amazing happened with this musical dynasty. The Beatles
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released their greatest, most iconic album ever just when we
counted them out Abbey Road. You know the iconic album cover.
They came together, their last recorded album and their greatest
ever musical and NFL dynasties. Be very careful. I know
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what you're saying, this is looney Tunes. But I look
at the great John Lennon, Yoko owner Paul McCartney coming
apart Abbey Road, and I look at Brady and Guerrero,
Gronk Craft and Bella Check and you're counting them out.
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They were not to be undone by Yoko, and the
Patriots were not to be undone by Alex Guerrero New
England by about a touchdown. One more Herd. The Herd
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on demand whenever you'd like. It has been an absolutely nutty,
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crazy week. Yesterday, the Knicks traded their star Chris stops
Porzingis to the Dallas Mavericks, clearing up space for potentially
Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. Anthony Davis Pelicans will be
a Laker. The question is when I believe it will happen.
With that via the Coward Global Satellite Network, Chris Bruce
Hard joins us, all right, let's start with a Porzingis trade.
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People in New York freaked out. What was your take
on it? I think it was a great trade for
both teams. You know, if you just look at it
from a standpoint of how good are they today, yeah,
you would freak out and say Dallas robbed them. But
when you look at the big picture, you see it
was great for both teams. Let's start with the Mavericks.
Obviously you got Porzingis, who will stay there long term.
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He knows has a relationship with Luka Donchech. Dirk Navitski
will obviously tell him about how great the franchise is,
and those two are building blocks for a future contender.
Also like Tim Hardaway Junior because he can shoot the ball,
and with those two drawings so much attention, he'll get
a lot of open looks from the Knicks perspective. As
you said, it's all about having the max cap space. Colin,
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there are people in the league who have told me
weeks months ago, long before they had the cap room
to get two Max guys. They think Kevin Durant is
going to New York. There were people thinking Kyrie Irvy
might go there. Now they have the cap space for
both of them. And I don't think Durant will go
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to New York by himself, but if he and Kyrie
want to go, and look, the league can't do anything
about it. There's gonna be tampering galore going on with
all these players. Kyrie's gonna be talking with KD. Kd's
gonna be talking with Jimmy Butler, Kyrie's gonna be talking
with Anthony Davis. They're all going to be talking figuring
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out what they want to do. And the dream wishless
for the Knicks is Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant in
New York. Let's talk about Kyrie Irving. This morning, release
some audio saying I don't give a blip, I don't
know anybody anything. Where do you think that came from?
Is he setting the Celtics up for an exit? Perhaps? Well,
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that's a heck of a backtrack, isn't it. From what
he said months ago about wanting to resign with the Celtics.
He said he's gonna do what's best for him. Again,
these last few weeks, I'll even say since he had
the conversation with Lebron, there has really been a lot
of speculation, a lot of talk around the league from
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people saying he's not staying in Boston. And this is
people close to the situation. He's not staying in Boston.
I think if you listen to what he said today
at the press conference when they asked him, has your
view change from what you said months ago to now?
He said, asked me July first. He didn't say no,
I still love it here. You know, we'll see. We
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got a long season left. Let's see what happens, he said,
asked me July first. I'm doing what's best for me.
I don't owe anybody anything. Kyrie is from nearby West Orange,
New Jersey. He grew up a next fan, but the
Knicks are obviously the show in New York. He likes
the spotlight. He's a fantastic player. And even though Kyrie
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and Lebron have mended fences, if you still are a
competitor and if you want to show I can win
it without Lebron, James, what better way to do it
than with Kevin Durant in New York. And if you're
Kevin Durant, and we know he's competitive with Lebron even
though their friends. If you want to one up Lebron James,
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what better way to do it than win a three
peat in Golden State, then go to New York and
lead them to a championship with Kyrie Irving. If he
leads them to a championship in New York, Durant, it's
I don't think he's as good a player as Lebron James,
but he will certainly have a legacy, yes, or an
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accomplishments that surpassed Lebron James. If he can do that
from a winning perspective. Yeah, Remember the Knicks also had
can get a hold of one of those duke players
like Zion Williamson. They have Kevin Knox, so it's not
like they don't have anything. They got a top pick,
a young man they like. Now I want to shift
into Lebron and Dennis Smith Junior's actually pretty good. Yeah quickly, Yeah,
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I want to shift to this. Okay, let's go Anthony
Davis to the Lakers. I've been told it's gonna happen.
I think you've been told that they had the Lakers
certainly yesterday Brad Turner La Time said they're willing to
give up everybody. You agreed with that. The question becomes,
the Knicks now appear to be out on Anthony Davis
more he has said publicly or through an agent, Boston's
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not his thing. Right, it looks like the Lakers now
certainly in the running for having the best package. If
you were the Pelicans, what would you do? Well? First
of all, you're right, Kylie, yesterday was a great day
for the Lakers too. There were three winners, the MAVs,
the Knicks, and the Lakers. Because to your point, the
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Knicks are out of it Boston. If Kyrie leaves, they're
out of it. Let me say this quickly. If Kyrie
resigns with Boston somehow, Danny Ainge, even if he's told
it's a one year rental, a d won't stay. He
will pull you throw the dice and try and get
Davis there for one year. Believe it, he could convince
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him to stay. If Kyrie's gone. I wouldn't do that.
If I'm Danny Ainge, he may still do it, but
I wouldn't do it if I'm anged so when we
look at the Lakers. Yeah, if I'm the Pelicans, there's
no way Colin I'm trading him to the Lakers before
the deadline, even if I know he's gonna end up
there eventually. What I would do if I'm the Pelicans,
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I would send Anthony Davis home for the rest of
the season. Go to Chicago. Just get out of New Orleans.
Go to Chicago. This ruins their franchise to a large extent.
Go to Chicago. We'll let you know when we're trading you.
I wouldn't even think about doing it before February seventh.
I believe I can get that best Lakers offer in
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the summer, just like I can get it now. So
because here's why some people think, well, with Boston out,
with New York out, the Lakers will be able to
low ball you and you'll have to take it. Not
necessarily because remember Anthony Davis has to stay around all
next year. Lebron James is not going to let another
year with this mediocre squad play out. He's going to
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get impatient and at some point he'll say, look, get
after Davis. I don't care who you have to give up,
And then they'll go do it. I want to play
a bite last night, Charles Barkley, he's all worked up.
Do we have the bite on Charles bark Let's play
this Charles Barkley last night, Adam Silver need to block
that trade. Why. I don't like what the Lakers are doing.
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I don't think it's right. I don't think the Lakers
are doing. Yes, I don't think what did they do?
We're collusion and you know it's collusion. Let's tell you something.
Chris Paul got mad at me because I said a
month ago to fix us in and the David's going
to the Lakers. And he didn't like me saying the
fix was in. The fix has been in. I don't
I think Commister Sterne, who I like a lot, did
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you come and says, hey, we can trade out to Davis,
but he cannot go to the Lakers. We cannot have
players and agents colluding to the stack superteam, all right,
Chris Bruce Sard respond to what Sir Charles said, Well,
first of all, he's wrong. He's talking about now these
players have the same agents. That's always been the case.
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David falk had, Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing, Alonzo Mourning and
many others when he was the top agent in the game.
So that's nothing new. What's new is this. In two
ten Lebron James showed players how they can take control
of their own destiny. That's what he did, and that's
what this is. Now instead of players leaving their destiny
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in the hands of the GM, the owner and the
other front office members, they are taking control of it themselves.
Now they have to be careful because it doesn't work
out for everybody. Dwight Howard ruined his career when he
got eyes for every place else and left Orlando ruined it.
Chris Paul when he left New Orleans went to the Clippers,
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didn't ruin his career, but he didn't basketball wise, he
didn't get to the conference finals in LA. Now he's
kind of a role player next to James Harden in Houston.
Carmelo Anthony when he went to New York, he was
still a celebrity and a superstar, but he didn't win.
It didn't help him battlesketball wise, his team in Denver
was better. So it has it worked out for everybody.
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Some of these players need to be careful. But this
is what you see happening in players are following the
Lebron James blueprint that he has started. Kevin Durant actually
did it better than Lebron and is on a better
team in Golden State and win him. But this is
what this is. Players are now seeing how the GM.
I'm not gonna let him send me wherever he wants to.
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I'm going to go where I want to. We can
build teams. We know more about basketball than them, or
just as much, so we can build these teams instead
of letting them do it. Now. It may whether you
like it or not. That's the reality of the situation
at this point. Well you and I agree on this
and always have great stuff. Chris Brussard, who is also
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a hell of a football guy. It's favorite sport. Good
Hooper loved his football. You know, if you, if you
were just a little tougher, you could have played football
and covered football. But you know you're a little soft.
It got painful, Colin, the older I got the more
painfully guy. Good seen you, Chris. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon eastern a
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The Cowboys, Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones. Jerry Jones Jones
family said that they're not going to extend Jason Garrett's
contract this next year. They're going to see how it goes.
For the record, I think they're right. This is not
college football. It's going to hurt recruiting. I think this
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is what they should do. And I would say this,
and I've said it multiple times. Stop lumping Dallas into
the crazy zany dysfunctional group. They are not. They draft well,
they developed players, they trade smartly, and they win games.
That's a good division. They've won it two or three
years and they won a playoff game this year with
a fourth round quarterback. There is a Ferris wheel of
dysfunction in the NFL. The Raiders in Tampa and Cleveland
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and Jacksonville, Detroit and Cincinnati. The Ferrest wheel of dysfunction
do not include the Cowboys in this. They win to visions,
they develop players, they trade smartly, they draft well. They're
gonna go draft to tight end. It's a good year
for tight ends. They're going to try to replenish their
offensive line. It's getting old. They know what they're doing.
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They will be a nine ten win team next year,
it is all good. I will say this though. There
are four coaches to keep your eye on. Lincoln Riley
just signed a contract with Oklahoma. But if he gets
into the Final FOURIG and wins a national title. Remember
Jerry hired a college coach Jimmy Johnson to win his
Super bowls, keep your eye and Barry Switzer, so he's
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two for two in the college guys. Keep your eye
on Sean Payton. If Drew Brees after next year shows
signs of age and retires, Sean Payton wants worked for
Jerry Jones. Keep your eye on Josh McDaniels. If Brady
again shows age, they failed to get to a Super Bowl.
Josh McDaniels with no quarterback in New England after Brady,
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Jerry Jones would look at him and Mike McCarthy, and
McCarthy's been to Zimber Bowl, he's won a Ziber Bowl.
He'll still be on the market. So Lincoln Riley, Sean Payton,
Josh McDaniels, Mike McCarthy all potentially available in one year
from now. This is not college football. You don't have
to sign ear coach. It's not hurting any recruiting class.
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So I think the Cowboys are in a good spot.
I like where they're going. I think they're highly functional.
They do things. I like, they draft smart, they trade smart,
they develop players like New England Trey Flowers has been
developed into a nice pass rusher. I didn't know who
David Lawrence was in college. I didn't watch him. So
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I mean it's easy to draft Zeke get Amari Cooper,
but to develop a lot of the young players, David Irving,
they have done a great, great job. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter
nini Empacific played for over a decade a Hall of famer,
led the NFL and rushing four times. He was a
Pro Bowl or six times, all time eighth NFL rusher,
and he has mister Ram. He's joining us in Atlanta
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via the Coward Global Satellite Network. Eric Dickerson, let me
ask you this. I watched Todd Gurley last week and
he didn't look the same. And I mean you you
can tell when a running back's not right. He dropped
a pass and he usually has great hands. He missed
a block. He's a very good blocker. Do you believe
Eric he is healthy. Yes, I believe he's healthy. You know,
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colin this time of the year, you're never one pcent healthy.
You know, you're usually like seventy and eighty percent healthy.
But that's healthy. In the National Football League, let me
tell you first of all, it's it's very hard hard
to play in New Orleans. It's hard to hear in
that stadium, it's hard to get a rhythm. You have
bad games, and Todd didn't play well last week. That's
just part of it, and you look forward to the
next week to redeem yourself. So, I mean, Todd, here's
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what everyone else has been saying. So I know he
wants to play very well in this Super Bowl game,
and possibly he plays well enough he could be MVP.
If if the Ram's been this football game, what kind
of game do you envisioned? I could see it being
like the Eagles and the Patriots, where you have two
good offensive lines, quarterbacks that get the ball out fast,
or their players. I could see high scoring. What about you?
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I see I see high scoring this football game. I
said maybe thirty seven, thirty thirty seven, twenty eight some
somewhere around there. You know, I think that you know
one thing about the Rams. They can score points, you know.
And but the big thing is you can't make mistakes
against a team like the New England Patriots because they'll
make you pay for it and then send us since
vice versa, we make teams pay for making mistakes against us.
Our defense has to get to Tom Brady. You can't
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let him sit back and just pick us apart. You
can't play zone on him. You have to, you know,
hit him. No quarterback in the National Football League likes
to get hit. They don't like hands in the face.
We have the guys that can do it and dominant
Sue and Aaron Donald, you know so and Broccos you have.
We have to get to him and hit the receivers
and also shut down that running game. The running game
is the key to the Patriots. If they can run
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the football, run the football successfully, that gives them that
two headed soul that they want. With Tom Brady, you
know what he can do, and you have a running
game to go along with it makes that much more dangerous.
I see. We have that. We have that in c. J. Anderson,
and we haven Todd gurlif a Shier and our young
quarterback Jared Goff. I think Jared Goff has a lot
of traits and similarities to Brady. I think he has
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a better arm though than Tom didn't. I think he's
more talented at this stage than Tom was. When you
look at Jared Goff, what do you see? I saw
a young man that that struggled his first year and
I think really because of the coaching, didn't have the
proper coaching. He has the talent, but you know, playing
the quarterback position, you have to have a guy, a
coach that can coach you. Up right, two weeks ago
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when he played in that NFC championship game, he won
that game. Really he did, because if we didn't have
Jared Goff, we wouldn't be here today. You know, the
throws that he made, the scrambles that he made, you know,
run the ball when he had to, you know, getting
the signals out there. You know people, I mean, you
really don't understand how hard it is to hear and
you can't hear. And the way they ran their offense,
they'll be able to score twenty six points and a
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real hostile, hostile environment you know is big and in
the throw right here, he too, the Brandon Cooks that
was a That wasn't just a good throw, that was
a great throw. Yeah. Do you think you know they've
They've already got Girly signed up and Brandon Cooks and
they've got a top division and then they've got to
pay Jared Goff. Their offensive lines getting a little old
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in the tooth. Do you think this championship window is
maybe shorter? I mean, the division's really tough. They're gonna
play Seattle and they got Jimmy Garoppolo. How long do
you think this championship window lasts? You know, honest with
your colin, I think it's our time. I think this
championship winner's gonna run for a while. I think that
we have the players. I mean we may we're losing
players for sure, but we have the pieces in place.
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You know, the most important things you have. You have
the players, but the coaching is so important. I mean
you look at you look at New England, and I
tell you use them as an example with Belichick. Sometimes
they don't have all the greatest players, but they were
still able to win with our young coach, Sean McVeigh.
To me, he is a mini version of him, He
really is. He's a he's a mini version because mcspay
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is a football guy, and I mean a football guy
he is. He's all about detail, just like Belichicks. He's
about detail. He's about, you know, having respect of the players,
and every players respect him. And the big thing is
I think one thing when people talked about all year
that McBay can't handle all these big personalities, you got
to leave. You got Peters, you know, and Kenny Hanley's guys.
You have heard nothing come out of RAM camp. It's
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all about winning football games, and I believe that. I
think that we'll have this run for a while. I
don't know if we'll do it like the Patriots. I
don't think we'll ever see that again. But you know,
we have a very good football team. What worries you
about this game? If you're a RAMS guy, what worries you? What?
What's your worst nightmare? Turn the football over? That's it.
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Turn the football over because you and you have to
be committed to the run those two things. Don't turn
the ball over and run the football. I think we
win this football game because I think our defense is
gonna step up. I think one of the key things
in this game is is way Phillips. I think people
are underestimating Waye phillips defense. They've been playing very well
the last couple of weeks. He's been in this situation before.
He's beating the page before. Before when they won the
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Super Bowl against the Carolina Panthers, he put it on
Cam Newton in their offense. And that's what I'm hoping
that he'll be able to do this Sunday against the
New England Patriots. Are you how surprised are you that
they brought in and Dominican Sue and Marcus Peters, nakib
to Leibe. These guys had a little baggage, these guys,
you know, their resumes were spotty. Are you surprised how
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well the chemistry has worked with the Rams? You know what, No,
I'm not after hearing about how Sean McVay dealt with players.
I mean, and as this comes from players that have
played under him, you know, players that have been around
him and talked about Eric. Let me tell you something.
It's only one Sean Nickbay. He said, they can try
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to find another Sean nicvay. They're not gonna find him.
He said, you might thank you, Gavin, Sean Nibey. You don't,
he said. He is such a football guy. He loves football,
he wants to work. And I think the big thing
is you find coaches don't listen to the players. The players,
we're at the end the fight. We're not talking about
the fight. And that's one thing I think that coach
McVeigh does. He talks to his players say, Okay, tell
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me what you see, tell me what you want to do,
and that's that's important. And if it's not working, he's
the first one to tell the Hey, the players, let
me show you why it's not working. And you have
to take the time to do those kind of things
with players in the National Football League. Now, how big
is it for LA if they win? What does it
mean to you? Oh, oh my gosh, you know, forget
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me the city of Los Angeles. This means so much
to our city of LA. You know, we had the floods,
we had the fires, we have the shooting at Borderline.
I mean, this is so big. You know, sports, sports
takes you away. You know, it's like I just need
a vacation. I need something to root for. And that's
what this gives us. This gives us something to root for.
All the fans back and I've been talking to fans
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back in LA, my friends, and they've been saying, man,
this Ram stuff everywhere in the offices, that that's all
they talking about his rams. You know, a lot of
it's not a whole lot of Ram fans out of
This is a long way. I mean, you gotta say this,
this is a long trip. Yeah, but man, you know
this is so big for our city of Los Angeles.
And like I said, forget me. You know, this is
about the city of LA and the player and the
young players that we have on this football team and
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the older players we have on the team. Also, by
the way, Eric Dickerson, who has told me that he
only eats like one meal a day, I hope you've
splurged a little in Atlanta and had had two meals
a day. Eric, that's I wanted you to be. You
have it in fun. Okay, let me tell you for Kylin.
It was a two o'clock, three o'clock. I haven't even
all day. I had one meal. Yes, you know what
time I ate yesterday, twelve o'clock at night. Twelve o'clock
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at night when I had my first meal last night.
I was not hungry. Lord Eric great talking to you. Hey,
good talking to you, Kylin,
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Lay it out for you, Joy, How are you great?
Sighting days? A lot done on there is a there
is a lot of NBA stuff, There's a lot of
NFL stuff. We'll go back and forth today on this.
I want us start here though, before I get to
the NBA stuff, and I've got a lot of NBA
stuff to talk about today on the phone, texting, talking
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last twenty four hours. Let me start with us though.
Sean McVay is thirty three years old. That is half
the age of Bill Belichick, who's sixty six. He is
the hot new boy genius and he has earned all
of it. He is sharp, he is fun, he is smart,
he is relatable. And when you put the resumes next
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to Bill Belichick, who wait a minute, dead, they're not close.
I mean not really even close. Sean McVay has two
wins that anybody in this league historically would care about.
He beat the Cowboys off a buy at home, got
a few calls, and he beat the Saints on the
road and got a big call. Now, I do think
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the Rams are better than both of those teams, but
that's it. Two wins, that's it. We love in the
NFL to anoint the next dynasty. Anybody's seen Philadelphia this week?
Anybody's seen the Eagles? I can't. I can't. Well, they're
nowhere to be found. That's because what happened to Philadelphia
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is what happens to virtually everybody not named the Patriots.
I want to remind you something about the Los Angeles Rams.
They are in a division that's really good in getting
better San Francisco. Kyle Shanahan Jimmy Garoppolo, Seattle, Pete Carroll,
Russell Wilson. They've already locked in three of their stars,
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Big Boy Money, Aaron Donald, Todd Gurley and Brandon Cooks.
And oh, by the way, Gurley showing signs of wear
and tear. They're going to eventually pretty soon here have
to pay Jared Goff a lot of money will limit
who they can sign. And oh, by the way, their
offensive line is old and getting really old fast. And
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I want to remind you of the four franchises we
were absolutely sure that we're going to take over this league.
The Saint Louis Rams and Kurt Warner, fastest show on turf,
and who ended their dynasty? New England, the Seattle Seahawks,
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Russell that defense, the Legion of Boom, who ended that dynasty?
The New England Patriots, the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're getting big
bend getting to super Bowls and who has really ended
that dynasty? Haven't been there in seven years to the
Super Bowl. The New England Patriots and Peyton Manning was
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gonna wreck this league. Remember Colts gonna go to like
ten super Bowls. Eight He won one super Bowl in Indianapolis,
why four for four the New England Patriots. They are favored,
they are more experienced, they are going to reload. Brady
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played his best game in years against the Chargers. They're
probably most believed going to win Sunday. And it should
be noted they've got a big edge in this game.
The two wide receivers for the Rams, one's a former
Patriot and the Patriots best corner guarded the other one
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Robert Woods for four years in Buffalo. We love to
annoint the next dynasty. Four of them have all ended
due to Belichick and Brady. All right, let's segue into this.
Oh lordy, lordy, lordy. Next Thursday is the NBA trading deadline.
And you and I know the NBA is changing. These days,
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players have more power. But it should be noted it's
been a players league since I started watching it in
nineteen seventy two. It was a players league then it
really was. Coaches didn't get fired as often, but they
got fired. Wilt didn't, Jerry West didn't, Elgin Baylor didn't. Okay,
it's always been a players league. Well yesterday, oh today,
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there's a lot of stuff freaking people out. Anthony Davis
has said I want to be a Laker and play
with a great player. Oohs, that's never happened before. Oh wait,
it's happened a million times. Poor Zingis wasn't happy with
the Knicks, and so he went to very aggressive owner
of the Dallas Mavericks, Mark Cuban, And now the Knicks
have the availability for two stars in free agency. That's bad.
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Kyrie Irving said this morning, I don't know anybody anything.
I don't owe the Celtics anything. And people are freaking
out because Kyrie Irving doesn't oh the Celtics anything. Charles
Barkley was on TV last night. He is beside himself,
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adam self, I need to block that trade. Why. I
don't like what the Lakers are doing. I don't think
it is right. I don't think the Lakers are doing Yes,
I don't think what did they do? We're collusion, you
know it's collusion. Let's take you something. Chris Paul got
mad at me because I said a month ago to
fix us in and the Davids going to the Lakers,
and he didn't like me saying the fix was in.
The fix has been in. I don't I think commister Sterne,
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who I like a lot. Did you come and says, hey,
we can trade out to Davis, but he cannot go
to the Lakers. We cannot have players and agents colluding
to set the stack superteam. What timeout time out My
entire life, and I've said this one hundred times. Agents
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and shoe companies and stars have controlled this league. What's
different now? What's different is Lebron is friends with Rich
Paul and the billionaires don't like it. But folks, if
you're in your twenties and thirties, you don't know who
David Falk is or Arne tell Um. They ran this
league for three decades. David Falk was so powerful they
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called him the invisible hand in union negotiations. The NBA
had a lockout and then ended a lockout, and David
Stern and David Falk were controlling it. He was an agent.
Arn Tellum had Shack and had Kobe, and David Falk
had Michael Jordan, and he had Iverson and he had Ewing,
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and those two agents controlled the NBA for years along
with Nike. That's been the league forever. What's different now?
What's different is Lebron is friends with Rich Paul. Call
me crazy, But wasn't David Falk one of Michael Jordan's guys.
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Of course, wasn't Arne tell Um really close to Kobe
may still be? Yes, that's an agent's job to be
your friend. I've got an agent. We're good friends. Why
I trust him. That's the same way Michael and Ewing
and Iverson all felt about David Falk. They were friends,
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a lot of stakes, a lot of cigars, a lot
of laughs, a lot of champagne together, private jets together,
golf tournaments together. So because Lebron's buddies would Rich Paul,
everybody's worked up Anthony Davis to the Lakers. Yeah, that's
never happened. A great player wants to leave his crappy
team and go to Lebron in LA. Yeah, that's just
crazy talk. It's been happening for fifty years. Wilt became
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a Laker and Shack became a Laker. Where did Shack
leave a small southern franchise? Kareem left Milwaukee a small
Midwest franchise. Come on, nothing crazy here. We had a
bunch of player movement yesterday. It was called good. Dallas
rolled the dice on poors ingas he's seven foot three
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and a half a slasher, he is brittle, he's coming
off a nasty injury. I don't know if I want
to pay him max money. I kind of like what
the Knicks half, but I haven't liked what the Knicks
have done for ten years. That was the first time
I kind of looked at the next and went wow,
I kind of got their act together. Fear drives ratings
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in politics Fox News and MSNBC in the World's gonna
end and Republicans are the end of the world, and
liberals are the end of the world. Everybody's away was
telling me the NBA is too top heavy. Tell me
the last time it wasn't. People are telling me stars
have too much power. Tell me the last time they didn't.
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Burden Magic, not a commissioner saved the league. Michael Jordan,
not a commissioner, made it global. Kobe Lebron shack. Nobody's
watching for owners. This league has been controlled by David Falk.
Aren't tell him Rich Paul Lebron, James Magic Johnson, Larry Bird.
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Sometimes a commissioner doesn't have a lot of power. Let's
all stop the fear mongering in the the Oh my god,
the World's gonna end stars in the NBA. Here's what's happened.
David Stern saved this league. It was not doing well financially,
and David Stern said, let's make it about the name
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on the back of the jersey. Put it on the front.
Give guys marketing and Nike and McDonald's, and it has,
you know, gassed up some of these players. They feel
pretty empowered, like any of us would. And now suddenly
the players talk and text and share the same agents
and say, you know what, we deserve a little more power.
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Not the IVY League agent, not the billionaire owner that
doesn't even understand basketball. It's all gonna be okay. The
Knicks are finally relevant. Dallas rolled that dies. The Lakers
are gonna be good again. They're gonna get Anthony Davis Kyrie.
Maybe he stays in Boston, maybe he doesn't, but it's
a captivating story whatever happens to him. But I disagree
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with Charles Barkley. It's not collusion, it's empowerment. I've moved,
you'll move, stars moved. Anthony Davis has given the Pelicans
six years. Lebron initially gave the camp seven. I've watched NBA,
NFL guys like Elway and Eli Manning stay, I'll never
play for that franchise. NBA guys are giving you six
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seven years. They just get tired of it and want
to go somewhere else and play with their friends. It's
all good. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Herd weekdays and noon Eastern a Empacific on Fox Sports
Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. I understand why
Cam Newton, big personality, stylish, Baker Mayfield, Aaron Rodgers, big band,
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Jamis Winston, a lot of fun, big quotes, lot of drama.
I understand why they're popular, and they're all really talented.
But I said it with Baker Mayfield. For me, as
a GM not draftable, you go ahead. I'm not interested
at the quarterback position. I'm looking for even keel, no peaks,
no valleys. I don't care my wide receivers, you know,
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my middle linebacker, my safety, my tight end, big personality guys,
but this is somebody that's running my franchise in crisis.
I need him to walk into the huddle and say,
s I got this. Rob Hammnstein's a great offensive lineman
for the Rams. The perception is Jared Goff doesn't have
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a huge personality and doesn't have a commanding presence. Against
the Saints late in the game, he came into the huddle,
according to Rob and basically dropped F bombs and said
be quiet, I'll take care of things. This is mine.
Andrew Whitworth doubled down on the comments Jared Goff is
not a lot of noise, is not a lot of personality,
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is not a lot of drama. But he showed in
crisis he can grab the room, grab the huddle. He
talked about his personality at the super Bowl earlier this week,
something that I was kind of born with and how
I grew up and how I've been and you know,
I probably attribute it to my parents and the way
they raised me and just try to understand that it's
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still just a game and have fun with it. You
are who you are. I think there's plenty of different
personalities around the league and at different positions, and I think,
you know, for myself, personally, I like to take a
certain approach just the way I am, and I know
for some guys it's a different approach, and I think
whatever works is what you should do. Through for forty
seven hundred yards this year and thirty two touchdowns. That's
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with a Todd Gurley who was never the same in November,
in December, and losing his favorite target, Cooper Cup early
in the year to an acl. What he does have, though,
is he has traits that I admire for a quarterback,
not everybody. Maturity, temperament, professionalism. He outplayed Drew Breese late
in the Superdome that can't be understated. And for years
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and years everybody rolls their eyes. I've called it my
bore four. Boring Brady Breeze, Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson.
Those are my four favorite quarterbacks in the NFL. The
bore four even temperament, you know, an occasional fist pump,
an occasional get into the huddle and drop you know
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a word, but no quotes, even keel even temperament, I mean,
struggled to tell a joke. These are These are not hip,
They're not lit, they're not cool, they're not noisy, they're
not loud. That sometimes I would argue they all have
a little dorkiness. The boar four. If Jared goffwin Sunday,
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I'm going to insert him and add one more quarterback.
It will be called the flat five flat even keel,
no peak, no valley. It will be Brady and Goff, Breeze,
Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck. I like my quarterbacks, less ego,
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no quotes, don't care if you have style, you can
have a neck beard, you can be a little dorky.
You don't look great at the combine in your underwear
doesn't look like your bench press Rhode Island. I'm okay
with it. I like boring, I like flat personalities. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and
noon Easter nine am Pacific this season. If New England wins,
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it will be their greatest achievement generally over time. This
is the way it works. Dynasties fade, Shack and Kobe
lost their last finals together. Magic lost to Michael Jordan.
At the end, Lebron and the Heat ditto. That's the
way it works. Get kind of old at the end.
New England's had eight Super Bowl appearances. This is nine
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and it's the most impressive. Obstacles unraveling. Gronk and Brady
went anti Bill in the offseason for a month. There
was that Alex Guerrero situation where he got a little
too close to Tom Brady, several ugly road losses, Edelman
suspended controversy. Yet they destroyed the Chargers best roster I
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believe in football. And they went to Kansas City and
beat Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. And it's starting to
remind me of the Beatles. They were already the Beatles,
the Goat, they were already a musical dynasty. Their legacy
was intact. Suddenly you heard reports that John Lennon and
Paul McCartney couldn't be in the room together. Why because
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Lennon's wife, Yoko Ono, had gotten so close to John,
too close. She was offering progressive teachings like the Patriots,
Tom Brady and Alex Guerrero got so close with new
progressive healing measures that it kind of turned off Bill Belichick.
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He kicked Arrow off a plane. The Beatles were coming
apart of the seams unraveling. They're big four Lennon, McCartney,
Ringo Star and George Harrison, and the Patriots Big four Belichick,
Bob Kraft, Brady and Gronk similarly starting to unravel. But
then something amazing happened with this musical dynasty. The Beatles
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released their greatest, most iconic album ever just when we
counted them out Abbey Road. You know the iconic album cover.
They came together, their last recorded album and their greatest
ever musical and NFL dynasties. Be very careful. I know
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what you're saying, this is looney Tunes. But I look
at the great John Lennon, Yoko owner Paul McCartney coming
apart Abbey Road, and I look at Brady and Guerrero,
Gronk Craft and Bella Check and you're counting them out.
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They were not to be undone by Yoko, and the
Patriots were not to be undone by Alex Guerrero New
England by about a touchdown. One more Herd. The Herd
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crazy week. Yesterday, the Knicks traded their star Chris stops
Porzingis to the Dallas Mavericks, clearing up space for potentially
Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. Anthony Davis Pelicans will be
a Laker. The question is when I believe it will happen.
With that via the Coward Global Satellite Network, Chris Bruce
Hard joins us, all right, let's start with a Porzingis trade.
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People in New York freaked out. What was your take
on it? I think it was a great trade for
both teams. You know, if you just look at it
from a standpoint of how good are they today, yeah,
you would freak out and say Dallas robbed them. But
when you look at the big picture, you see it
was great for both teams. Let's start with the Mavericks.
Obviously you got Porzingis, who will stay there long term.
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He knows has a relationship with Luka Donchech. Dirk Navitski
will obviously tell him about how great the franchise is,
and those two are building blocks for a future contender.
Also like Tim Hardaway Junior because he can shoot the ball,
and with those two drawings so much attention, he'll get
a lot of open looks from the Knicks perspective. As
you said, it's all about having the max cap space. Colin,
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there are people in the league who have told me
weeks months ago, long before they had the cap room
to get two Max guys. They think Kevin Durant is
going to New York. There were people thinking Kyrie Irvy
might go there. Now they have the cap space for
both of them. And I don't think Durant will go
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to New York by himself, but if he and Kyrie
want to go, and look, the league can't do anything
about it. There's gonna be tampering galore going on with
all these players. Kyrie's gonna be talking with KD. Kd's
gonna be talking with Jimmy Butler, Kyrie's gonna be talking
with Anthony Davis. They're all going to be talking figuring
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out what they want to do. And the dream wishless
for the Knicks is Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant in
New York. Let's talk about Kyrie Irving. This morning, release
some audio saying I don't give a blip, I don't
know anybody anything. Where do you think that came from?
Is he setting the Celtics up for an exit? Perhaps? Well,
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that's a heck of a backtrack, isn't it. From what
he said months ago about wanting to resign with the Celtics.
He said he's gonna do what's best for him. Again,
these last few weeks, I'll even say since he had
the conversation with Lebron, there has really been a lot
of speculation, a lot of talk around the league from
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people saying he's not staying in Boston. And this is
people close to the situation. He's not staying in Boston.
I think if you listen to what he said today
at the press conference when they asked him, has your
view change from what you said months ago to now?
He said, asked me July first. He didn't say no,
I still love it here. You know, we'll see. We
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got a long season left. Let's see what happens, he said,
asked me July first. I'm doing what's best for me.
I don't owe anybody anything. Kyrie is from nearby West Orange,
New Jersey. He grew up a next fan, but the
Knicks are obviously the show in New York. He likes
the spotlight. He's a fantastic player. And even though Kyrie
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and Lebron have mended fences, if you still are a
competitor and if you want to show I can win
it without Lebron, James, what better way to do it
than with Kevin Durant in New York. And if you're
Kevin Durant, and we know he's competitive with Lebron even
though their friends. If you want to one up Lebron James,
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what better way to do it than win a three
peat in Golden State, then go to New York and
lead them to a championship with Kyrie Irving. If he
leads them to a championship in New York, Durant, it's
I don't think he's as good a player as Lebron James,
but he will certainly have a legacy, yes, or an
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accomplishments that surpassed Lebron James. If he can do that
from a winning perspective. Yeah, Remember the Knicks also had
can get a hold of one of those duke players
like Zion Williamson. They have Kevin Knox, so it's not
like they don't have anything. They got a top pick,
a young man they like. Now I want to shift
into Lebron and Dennis Smith Junior's actually pretty good. Yeah quickly, Yeah,
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I want to shift to this. Okay, let's go Anthony
Davis to the Lakers. I've been told it's gonna happen.
I think you've been told that they had the Lakers
certainly yesterday Brad Turner La Time said they're willing to
give up everybody. You agreed with that. The question becomes,
the Knicks now appear to be out on Anthony Davis
more he has said publicly or through an agent, Boston's
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not his thing. Right, it looks like the Lakers now
certainly in the running for having the best package. If
you were the Pelicans, what would you do? Well? First
of all, you're right, Kylie, yesterday was a great day
for the Lakers too. There were three winners, the MAVs,
the Knicks, and the Lakers. Because to your point, the
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Knicks are out of it Boston. If Kyrie leaves, they're
out of it. Let me say this quickly. If Kyrie
resigns with Boston somehow, Danny Ainge, even if he's told
it's a one year rental, a d won't stay. He
will pull you throw the dice and try and get
Davis there for one year. Believe it, he could convince
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him to stay. If Kyrie's gone. I wouldn't do that.
If I'm Danny Ainge, he may still do it, but
I wouldn't do it if I'm anged so when we
look at the Lakers. Yeah, if I'm the Pelicans, there's
no way Colin I'm trading him to the Lakers before
the deadline, even if I know he's gonna end up
there eventually. What I would do if I'm the Pelicans,
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I would send Anthony Davis home for the rest of
the season. Go to Chicago. Just get out of New Orleans.
Go to Chicago. This ruins their franchise to a large extent.
Go to Chicago. We'll let you know when we're trading you.
I wouldn't even think about doing it before February seventh.
I believe I can get that best Lakers offer in
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the summer, just like I can get it now. So
because here's why some people think, well, with Boston out,
with New York out, the Lakers will be able to
low ball you and you'll have to take it. Not
necessarily because remember Anthony Davis has to stay around all
next year. Lebron James is not going to let another
year with this mediocre squad play out. He's going to
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get impatient and at some point he'll say, look, get
after Davis. I don't care who you have to give up,
And then they'll go do it. I want to play
a bite last night, Charles Barkley, he's all worked up.
Do we have the bite on Charles bark Let's play
this Charles Barkley last night, Adam Silver need to block
that trade. Why. I don't like what the Lakers are doing.
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I don't think it's right. I don't think the Lakers
are doing. Yes, I don't think what did they do?
We're collusion and you know it's collusion. Let's tell you something.
Chris Paul got mad at me because I said a
month ago to fix us in and the David's going
to the Lakers. And he didn't like me saying the
fix was in. The fix has been in. I don't
I think Commister Sterne, who I like a lot, did
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you come and says, hey, we can trade out to Davis,
but he cannot go to the Lakers. We cannot have
players and agents colluding to the stack superteam, all right,
Chris Bruce Sard respond to what Sir Charles said, Well,
first of all, he's wrong. He's talking about now these
players have the same agents. That's always been the case.
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David falk had, Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing, Alonzo Mourning and
many others when he was the top agent in the game.
So that's nothing new. What's new is this. In two
ten Lebron James showed players how they can take control
of their own destiny. That's what he did, and that's
what this is. Now instead of players leaving their destiny
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in the hands of the GM, the owner and the
other front office members, they are taking control of it themselves.
Now they have to be careful because it doesn't work
out for everybody. Dwight Howard ruined his career when he
got eyes for every place else and left Orlando ruined it.
Chris Paul when he left New Orleans went to the Clippers,
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didn't ruin his career, but he didn't basketball wise, he
didn't get to the conference finals in LA. Now he's
kind of a role player next to James Harden in Houston.
Carmelo Anthony when he went to New York, he was
still a celebrity and a superstar, but he didn't win.
It didn't help him battlesketball wise, his team in Denver
was better. So it has it worked out for everybody.
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Some of these players need to be careful. But this
is what you see happening in players are following the
Lebron James blueprint that he has started. Kevin Durant actually
did it better than Lebron and is on a better
team in Golden State and win him. But this is
what this is. Players are now seeing how the GM.
I'm not gonna let him send me wherever he wants to.
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I'm going to go where I want to. We can
build teams. We know more about basketball than them, or
just as much, so we can build these teams instead
of letting them do it. Now. It may whether you
like it or not. That's the reality of the situation
at this point. Well you and I agree on this
and always have great stuff. Chris Brussard, who is also
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a hell of a football guy. It's favorite sport. Good
Hooper loved his football. You know, if you, if you
were just a little tougher, you could have played football
and covered football. But you know you're a little soft.
It got painful, Colin, the older I got the more
painfully guy. Good seen you, Chris. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon eastern a
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Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.
The Cowboys, Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones. Jerry Jones Jones
family said that they're not going to extend Jason Garrett's
contract this next year. They're going to see how it goes.
For the record, I think they're right. This is not
college football. It's going to hurt recruiting. I think this
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is what they should do. And I would say this,
and I've said it multiple times. Stop lumping Dallas into
the crazy zany dysfunctional group. They are not. They draft well,
they developed players, they trade smartly, and they win games.
That's a good division. They've won it two or three
years and they won a playoff game this year with
a fourth round quarterback. There is a Ferris wheel of
dysfunction in the NFL. The Raiders in Tampa and Cleveland
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and Jacksonville, Detroit and Cincinnati. The Ferrest wheel of dysfunction
do not include the Cowboys in this. They win to visions,
they develop players, they trade smartly, they draft well. They're
gonna go draft to tight end. It's a good year
for tight ends. They're going to try to replenish their
offensive line. It's getting old. They know what they're doing.
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They will be a nine ten win team next year,
it is all good. I will say this though. There
are four coaches to keep your eye on. Lincoln Riley
just signed a contract with Oklahoma. But if he gets
into the Final FOURIG and wins a national title. Remember
Jerry hired a college coach Jimmy Johnson to win his
Super bowls, keep your eye and Barry Switzer, so he's
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two for two in the college guys. Keep your eye
on Sean Payton. If Drew Brees after next year shows
signs of age and retires, Sean Payton wants worked for
Jerry Jones. Keep your eye on Josh McDaniels. If Brady
again shows age, they failed to get to a Super Bowl.
Josh McDaniels with no quarterback in New England after Brady,
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Jerry Jones would look at him and Mike McCarthy, and
McCarthy's been to Zimber Bowl, he's won a Ziber Bowl.
He'll still be on the market. So Lincoln Riley, Sean Payton,
Josh McDaniels, Mike McCarthy all potentially available in one year
from now. This is not college football. You don't have
to sign ear coach. It's not hurting any recruiting class.
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So I think the Cowboys are in a good spot.
I like where they're going. I think they're highly functional.
They do things. I like, they draft smart, they trade smart,
they develop players like New England Trey Flowers has been
developed into a nice pass rusher. I didn't know who
David Lawrence was in college. I didn't watch him. So
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I mean it's easy to draft Zeke get Amari Cooper,
but to develop a lot of the young players, David Irving,
they have done a great, great job. Be sure to
catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter
nini Empacific played for over a decade a Hall of famer,
led the NFL and rushing four times. He was a
Pro Bowl or six times, all time eighth NFL rusher,
and he has mister Ram. He's joining us in Atlanta
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via the Coward Global Satellite Network. Eric Dickerson, let me
ask you this. I watched Todd Gurley last week and
he didn't look the same. And I mean you you
can tell when a running back's not right. He dropped
a pass and he usually has great hands. He missed
a block. He's a very good blocker. Do you believe
Eric he is healthy. Yes, I believe he's healthy. You know,
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colin this time of the year, you're never one pcent healthy.
You know, you're usually like seventy and eighty percent healthy.
But that's healthy. In the National Football League, let me
tell you first of all, it's it's very hard hard
to play in New Orleans. It's hard to hear in
that stadium, it's hard to get a rhythm. You have
bad games, and Todd didn't play well last week. That's
just part of it, and you look forward to the
next week to redeem yourself. So, I mean, Todd, here's
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what everyone else has been saying. So I know he
wants to play very well in this Super Bowl game,
and possibly he plays well enough he could be MVP.
If if the Ram's been this football game, what kind
of game do you envisioned? I could see it being
like the Eagles and the Patriots, where you have two
good offensive lines, quarterbacks that get the ball out fast,
or their players. I could see high scoring. What about you?
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I see I see high scoring this football game. I
said maybe thirty seven, thirty thirty seven, twenty eight some
somewhere around there. You know, I think that you know
one thing about the Rams. They can score points, you know.
And but the big thing is you can't make mistakes
against a team like the New England Patriots because they'll
make you pay for it and then send us since
vice versa, we make teams pay for making mistakes against us.
Our defense has to get to Tom Brady. You can't
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let him sit back and just pick us apart. You
can't play zone on him. You have to, you know,
hit him. No quarterback in the National Football League likes
to get hit. They don't like hands in the face.
We have the guys that can do it and dominant
Sue and Aaron Donald, you know so and Broccos you have.
We have to get to him and hit the receivers
and also shut down that running game. The running game
is the key to the Patriots. If they can run
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the football, run the football successfully, that gives them that
two headed soul that they want. With Tom Brady, you
know what he can do, and you have a running
game to go along with it makes that much more dangerous.
I see. We have that. We have that in c. J. Anderson,
and we haven Todd gurlif a Shier and our young
quarterback Jared Goff. I think Jared Goff has a lot
of traits and similarities to Brady. I think he has
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a better arm though than Tom didn't. I think he's
more talented at this stage than Tom was. When you
look at Jared Goff, what do you see? I saw
a young man that that struggled his first year and
I think really because of the coaching, didn't have the
proper coaching. He has the talent, but you know, playing
the quarterback position, you have to have a guy, a
coach that can coach you. Up right, two weeks ago
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when he played in that NFC championship game, he won
that game. Really he did, because if we didn't have
Jared Goff, we wouldn't be here today. You know, the
throws that he made, the scrambles that he made, you know,
run the ball when he had to, you know, getting
the signals out there. You know people, I mean, you
really don't understand how hard it is to hear and
you can't hear. And the way they ran their offense,
they'll be able to score twenty six points and a
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real hostile, hostile environment you know is big and in
the throw right here, he too, the Brandon Cooks that
was a That wasn't just a good throw, that was
a great throw. Yeah. Do you think you know they've
They've already got Girly signed up and Brandon Cooks and
they've got a top division and then they've got to
pay Jared Goff. Their offensive lines getting a little old
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in the tooth. Do you think this championship window is
maybe shorter? I mean, the division's really tough. They're gonna
play Seattle and they got Jimmy Garoppolo. How long do
you think this championship window lasts? You know, honest with
your colin, I think it's our time. I think this
championship winner's gonna run for a while. I think that
we have the players. I mean we may we're losing
players for sure, but we have the pieces in place.
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You know, the most important things you have. You have
the players, but the coaching is so important. I mean
you look at you look at New England, and I
tell you use them as an example with Belichick. Sometimes
they don't have all the greatest players, but they were
still able to win with our young coach, Sean McVeigh.
To me, he is a mini version of him, He
really is. He's a he's a mini version because mcspay
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is a football guy, and I mean a football guy
he is. He's all about detail, just like Belichicks. He's
about detail. He's about, you know, having respect of the players,
and every players respect him. And the big thing is
I think one thing when people talked about all year
that McBay can't handle all these big personalities, you got
to leave. You got Peters, you know, and Kenny Hanley's guys.
You have heard nothing come out of RAM camp. It's
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all about winning football games, and I believe that. I
think that we'll have this run for a while. I
don't know if we'll do it like the Patriots. I
don't think we'll ever see that again. But you know,
we have a very good football team. What worries you
about this game? If you're a RAMS guy, what worries you? What?
What's your worst nightmare? Turn the football over? That's it.
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Turn the football over because you and you have to
be committed to the run those two things. Don't turn
the ball over and run the football. I think we
win this football game because I think our defense is
gonna step up. I think one of the key things
in this game is is way Phillips. I think people
are underestimating Waye phillips defense. They've been playing very well
the last couple of weeks. He's been in this situation before.
He's beating the page before. Before when they won the
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Super Bowl against the Carolina Panthers, he put it on
Cam Newton in their offense. And that's what I'm hoping
that he'll be able to do this Sunday against the
New England Patriots. Are you how surprised are you that
they brought in and Dominican Sue and Marcus Peters, nakib
to Leibe. These guys had a little baggage, these guys,
you know, their resumes were spotty. Are you surprised how
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well the chemistry has worked with the Rams? You know what, No,
I'm not after hearing about how Sean McVay dealt with players.
I mean, and as this comes from players that have
played under him, you know, players that have been around
him and talked about Eric. Let me tell you something.
It's only one Sean Nickbay. He said, they can try
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to find another Sean nicvay. They're not gonna find him.
He said, you might thank you, Gavin, Sean Nibey. You don't,
he said. He is such a football guy. He loves football,
he wants to work. And I think the big thing
is you find coaches don't listen to the players. The players,
we're at the end the fight. We're not talking about
the fight. And that's one thing I think that coach
McVeigh does. He talks to his players say, Okay, tell
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me what you see, tell me what you want to do,
and that's that's important. And if it's not working, he's
the first one to tell the Hey, the players, let
me show you why it's not working. And you have
to take the time to do those kind of things
with players in the National Football League. Now, how big
is it for LA if they win? What does it
mean to you? Oh, oh my gosh, you know, forget
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me the city of Los Angeles. This means so much
to our city of LA. You know, we had the floods,
we had the fires, we have the shooting at Borderline.
I mean, this is so big. You know, sports, sports
takes you away. You know, it's like I just need
a vacation. I need something to root for. And that's
what this gives us. This gives us something to root for.
All the fans back and I've been talking to fans
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back in LA, my friends, and they've been saying, man,
this Ram stuff everywhere in the offices, that that's all
they talking about his rams. You know, a lot of
it's not a whole lot of Ram fans out of
This is a long way. I mean, you gotta say this,
this is a long trip. Yeah, but man, you know
this is so big for our city of Los Angeles.
And like I said, forget me. You know, this is
about the city of LA and the player and the
young players that we have on this football team and
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the older players we have on the team. Also, by
the way, Eric Dickerson, who has told me that he
only eats like one meal a day, I hope you've
splurged a little in Atlanta and had had two meals
a day. Eric, that's I wanted you to be. You
have it in fun. Okay, let me tell you for Kylin.
It was a two o'clock, three o'clock. I haven't even
all day. I had one meal. Yes, you know what
time I ate yesterday, twelve o'clock at night. Twelve o'clock
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at night when I had my first meal last night.
I was not hungry. Lord Eric great talking to you. Hey,
good talking to you, Kylin,
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