February 11, 2019 • 40 mins
Colin says Dak Prescott is being ridiculous saying Tom Brady takes payouts because his wife makes a lot of money. He thinks Kyler Murray going to the NFL will be exciting and sees him as potentially a top ten pick. He talks about where he was right and wrong in the past week. Plus, former NBA player Cuttino Mobley talks about the Celtics struggles and why last season may have been their peak. Presented by Perky Jerky.
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Good to have you enjoyed, Good to see you. Hope
your weekend was great. It was great. How was yours?
Just a goodday out Friday? Little skiing back, ready to
go nice, Let's see it, flying down that hill, flying
down this hill. Here we go. So I was off Friday.
So on Thursday night the Lakers beat the Celtics for
John Rondo last second win. And you know I watched
the end of the game, and then I Friday morning,
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I woke up and I went on the internet and
people were going crazy and headlines were unbelievable, and it
saved the season. The Lakers season has been saved. They
can beat anybody. They've come together. This team is for real.
That is total, utter nonsense. So I checked my phone
and I thought, well, who do they play next? They're
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out East Sixers, and I thought to myself, well, what
do they go get beat by twenty five of the Sixers?
L O L They did NBA media settle down individual
wins in February or irrelevant. The Lakers are a completely
average team and that game didn't save any season. They're
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one star and thirteen possible transactions. Kyle Kuzma's their second
best player, and he disappears in games he did against
the Sixers. He does it all the time, and he's
their second best player. And I know they're all transactions
because I read stories last week where the Lakers were
willing to give up every single young player. And I
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scolded the Lakers and I said, this is a big mistake.
Do not get into business with the Pelicans like this.
It will get ugly. It's a cautionary tale. When a
team like the Pelicans has nothing to lose, be very
careful about what you offer. They're just manipulating you. Because
the Lakers put out a list of seven players and
five draft picks they were willing to give up. All
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the players now know their pawns. This is an average
team with one great player on the back nine of
his career. Though he's still remarkable, he's not as dominant
as he once was. He's coming off an injury. Only
one other player is a true asset, Kyle Kuzma, and
he disappears in games. And I thought the trade and
all of it, and all the nonsense in the media
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confuse an average locker room. Javail McGhee. Magic Johnson flew
out to the East Coast to talk to the kids
and talk to the team after all those trade rumors
were out there, and JaVale McGee was asked by the
La Times what he made of Magic Johnson talking to
the players about all the trade rumors that never transpired.
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JaVale McGee said, it felt good. How am I supposed
to answer that? How did I feel? Tingly inside? I
don't know. The reporter said, was it productive? Yeah, I
got so much out of it. It's crazy, DP Exhale.
I don't know what you're trying to ask. Yeah, either
do I. Magic Johnson flew out to soothe the young
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players who are freaking out, which all young people, middle
aged people, or old people would do if they feel
they're completely expendable. Magic Johnson talked about that meeting with
the team with making this about thinking these guys of babies,
because that's what you're treating. They're professionals, all of them.
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And then this is how this league works. They know it.
I know it. All deals though a lot of them
remain in puffic. We didn't make it in puppet. That's
what happens. We got big boys too. They bounced back.
They're fine, They're not fine. They didn't look fine yesterday.
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This is not about kids being babies. I'll say it again.
Luke Walton is in big trouble. This is a confused
locker room. And be very careful about doing business with
people who have nothing to lose. The Pelicans didn't dirtied
up all the trade rumors and manipulated Magic and the Lakers.
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I don't blame the players if you can sense your
demise or the fact that you're completely expendable. That's tough
for anyybody to deal with. Guys are some people are married,
some have families, some are comfortable with their current employer.
That win against the Celtic take a deep breath, meant nothing.
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This is going to be an incredibly choppy second half
and Luke Walton, unfortunately will take the hit. Let me
shift gears to this. This is really confusing because I
like this player. There is a rule in professional sports.
There's two things you don't talk about. You don't talk
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about another player's wife, and you don't talk about another
player's money. Oh wait, Dak Prescott this weekend talked about both.
Nobody's wife makes as much money as his wife does either,
So make sure we know that, all right. When Tom
Brady's isn't the breadwinner in the home, then that's a
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great problem to have. So in that case, he can
do that, he can, he can you know, do his
contracts however you want to do him. Oh, brother, tom
Brady's wife. First of all, once you get to one
hundred million dollars net worth, hundred and fifty million dollars
net worth simply doesn't matter, It doesn't change anything. It's
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all about ego. Tom Brady has been restructuring his contract
pre Gizelle and post Giselle because Tom Brady is all
about winning. Kirk Cousins isn't. Kirk Cousins is about getting
his money. Kirk Cousins isn't dumb. Kirk Cousins knows that
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the more a quarterback makes, the less you can afford
on your offensive line or in your running game, both
liabilities last year for the Vikings. Players make decisions all
the time. NBA stars make a boatload of money with
apparel and shoes. Therefore, guys like Kevin Durant best served
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taking a little less to win more and shaping his legacy.
Dak Prescott has all the data in the world. Now
he is saying he will not take a paycut, He
has all the data in the world. It is clear
that in a salary cap league, the top six paid quarterbacks,
none of them made the playoffs last year. Does Dak
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Prescott really believe that those two major endorsement deals he's got,
one with a yogurt and one with Campbell's soup, that
he would have those if not for the Dallas Cowboys really,
he really believes that does Dak Prescott believe that Zeke
makes him better, that front seven defensively puts him in
better field position, and that Tyron Smith at left tackle
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has elevated his protection. Once data is provided to any American,
then the choices are yours. Tom Brady has been restructuring
his deal. He did it back in the Randy Moss
days because Tom Brady's a winner. Tom Brady knew that
if I take less, we can get Randy Moss and
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we can keep he and Wes Welker. That's what Brady's
been doing very early in his career. That's why he
fits so well in New England. In fact, I wouldn't
be surprised if New England doesn't just pay Brady in
goats since he is one. This is not about anything
about a wife, about money. That is just an excuse
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to take money and hurt your legacy. There's something very
clear that is happening. The two biggest stars in America
right now in sports are NBA stars and NFL quarterbacks,
and with both we have decisions that need to be
made by those stars. In quarterbacks, we know that quarterbacks
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are better served Drew Brees a great example of taking
a little less, and since Brees decided to do that
several years ago, the Saints running game and offensive line
and defense are significantly better. And it should be noted
that Steph Curry made forty two million dollars last year
off the court, Clay Thompson made thirteen and has virtually
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no personality. Kevin Durant makes more with Nike than he
does with the Warriors. But those players know that nobody
really watches the NBA from October to February, but they
do watch in April, May and June. And you want
to be on TV, and you'll be on TV if
you're on a team good enough to win series after
series after series. So NFL quarterbacks and NBA stars, be
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it the wife or the shoe deal, know that career
longevity and elevation is secured by not being data now
clearly provided. The highest paid guy, Dak Prescott Brady's not
about his wife. It's not anything about that Tom made
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a career decision pre Gazelle. I want to constantly restructure
my deal because I want to win games. The question, now, Dak,
do you be sure to catch live editions of the
Herd weekdays and noon Easter nine a Empacific on Fox
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Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. So the
New York Knicks did something I thought was really brilliant.
Actually I thought this was absolutely brilliant by the New
York Knicks, very very funny. So they were asking their
fans about ticket renewals, and they put Kevin Durant, who
is rumored to be interested in the Knicks in that photo.
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By the way, I couldn't tell you who that Nick is,
but I know it's Kevin Durant. This is not tampering.
It is not tampering. It's brilliant, it's funny, and they
should have never taken it down. Though they were pressured.
The NBA gases up their stars and then they just
don't like it when their stars have mobility. This is
not tampering. In fact, I'd argue it's pampering. The Knicks
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are pampering their season tickets, selling them a dream and
hope and optimism. That's pampering, not tampering. By the way,
Lebron with the Yannis, they were on a TV show
Charles Barkley included Shag and so they were drafting they've
decided to televise this. It's very very smart, very funny.
I love it. So they televise now star players Yannis
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for the East, Lebron for the West, and they pick
they're all star teams. It's a great idea. They televised
it and they were joking about all the tampering stuff.
With my first pick in a second round, I'm going
with Anthony Davis. You're sure you want him to be
your teammate. I know, I'm very sure of that. Isn't
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that tampering doesn't imply well, I think the best way
to do this for Yannis to trade everybody on his
bench for Anthony Davis. Ah, that's hilarious, Charles Barkley, this
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is part and parcel to the league. Being afraid of
player mobility is like being afraid of technology. Hey, it's
not going anywhere, and b it's a whole lot of fun.
Steve Kerr came out after one of his stars, Kevin Durant,
was pushing back and all the rumors about where Kevin
Durant was going to play, and Steve Kerr, like Lebron,
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was very level headed. He said, we're all actors in
a soap opera. Understand that's a big part of the
revenue stream. The intense interest and passion that fans have
where who why, what team people. It'd be nice if
people just paid attention to pick and roll coverage, but
they don't. Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Anthony Davis. A huge
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component to their wealth is the speculation. You know. That's
why TV people make more than newspaper people. Were called
TV shows and there's TV stars. That's why newspapers have
people that cover television, and television doesn't have people that
cover newspapers and breakdown columns. That's the way the game works.
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TV is a show. The NBA is entertainment. What the
Knicks did was pampering, not tampering. There is no reason
to be afraid of it. What are we protecting with
Anthony Davis and the Pelicans his great legacy there, God,
they were called all hornets fifteen minutes ago. I love
how Lebron handled it. I love how Steve Kerr handled it.
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In an ideal, perfect world, we would deeply care about
the minutia of sports, and we don't. One of the
reasons I like the NBA. In fact, I preferred over
baseball is because of the soap operas, and of the
rumors and of the speculation, and of the constant elevation
of storylines. It's just more fun. Tip of the cap
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to Janis, Barkley, Kerr and Lebron. That's what this league's
all about. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Herd weekdays and noon Easter ninety Empacific. Kyler Murray breaking
news has announced he will play football over choosing Major
League baseball. He was the quarterback for the Oklahoma Sooners.
He is much smaller than any quarterback that's had success
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in this league. I think he's slightly shorter than Doug Flutie.
He is a remarkable athlete baseball and football. I do
believe he will be drafted in the first round. I
do believe he made a very smart choice choosing football
over baseball. He's going to get as a first round pick,
four years of guaranteed money. He is firmly and fully
committed to his life to become an NFL quarterback. It's
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on his Twitter today. I agree with him. I think
it's the smart move. I also think he's a fascinating
player and instead of going to minor league baseball and disappearing.
He will be playing on Sundays and getting mega endorsement
deals if he succeeds. I think this is the obvious choice.
And I think there's two things. The NFL's a copycat league.
Number One, you watch Lamar Jackson come in, and he's
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not a totally developed thrower. Kyler Murray's a way better
thrower than Lamar Jackson. But he runs around a lot
and he got he got his team to Ravens to
the playoffs running around a lot. Now, Kyler Murray is
a much better thrower of the football. Kyler Murray. If
there's a prototype in the NFL, I'd say it's Russell Wilson. Again,
Russell Wilson's one of the best quarterbacks I've ever seen,
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So it's it's not fair to compare anybody to Russell Wilson.
There's a little bit of Russell Wilson. There's a little
bit of Johnny Manziel, although I think he's a much
better athlete than Johnny Manziel and I frankly think he's
a better thrower of the football than Johnny Manziel. We
kind of put all of the shorter quarterbacks in one category, right,
They really aren't that much funny, Like you would never
say Johnny Manziel as the same type of quarterback as
Russell Wills. Well, if what's funny is I think Russell
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Wilson got Johnny Manziel drafted. But it's the mature at
of Russell Wilson that makes him not just running around parts.
He's a really bright, mature guy. So I think Murray
is a draftable first round quarterback. Again, probably not a guy.
My number one quarterback is Dwayne Haskins at Ohio State.
He's not a runner at all. He is a complete
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one percent pocket passer. That's my favorite quarterback. He's a big,
strong kid for the Buckeyes. But Kyler Murray is draftable.
He's really small. He looks small in the college game.
In the NFL, he'll look really small, and that's not
true because I'm six to one and he's not close
to me. I'd say it's closer to five eight and
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a half. But I think here's the ether thing. So
the NFL's copycat league. We had a run around guy
Lamar Jackson and to some degree, Mitch Traubisky lead their
team to the playoffs. Okay, the second thing is the
big twelve. Everybody always rolled their eyes at the big twelve, right,
big twelve quarterbacks run and shoot, this stuff can't work
in it. And Baker Mainfield came in, You're like, oh, oh,
big twelve quarterbacks, because NFL looks more and more like
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big twelve football. Now everybody spread out. You know the
Super Bowl that was standing, you know, most of the
NFL this year was guys running around. Pat Rick Mahomes,
Baker Mayfield. Big twelve quarterbacks are now having success in
the NFL. So I think the kid made the right choice.
Probably not a guy i'd build around first. But here's
the NFL draft order. Here it is. I'll give it
to you right now. Arizona Cardinals, just keep your NYE, Arizona.
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I think if I was the Buccaneers at five, I
would consider drafting him. If I was the Jacksonville Jaguars
at seven, I think I would draft him. I think
I would draft him. I'm not joking. If the Denver Broncos,
probably not. I don't think John Gruden, by the way
he said he loves him, Raiders have the fourth pick again.
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The world's changing now. Ten years ago, I would have
laughed at this, But Russell Wilson's five eleven and a
half and he's gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
He's got the best quarterback ranking in the fourth quarter
in the history of the league outside of I think
Aaron Rodgers, and I think people Johnny Manzel got drafted
because of Russell Wilson and the idea of the you know,
you're five eleven, five ten, You can't plan this league.
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The league's changed. The league's changed now. I would still
rather have a pocket guy. Okay, that my favorite quarterbacks
in this league, your guys who can sit in the
pocket and throw darts. But there's the NFL gives you
about college football gives you one of those every year
one if you need a quarterback. The coaching staff sitting
there thinking, okay, this is Kyler Murray's really interesting. So
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good congratulations to the kid. I think he made the
right call. I think he's going to be exciting, and
I think you can go disappear in the minor leagues
in baseball, or you can go be a first round
pick in the NFL. It's a no brainer. It's a
total no brainer. As a kid, you mean again, you
can go play in Modesto or you know, you know,
middle in Texas well. Also, I think Tim Tebow has
shown that you can try your hand at the NFL
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and go back to baseball if you're really that skill
about it. You know what, He's interesting. I want to
see the kid play. Yeah, I want to see the
kid play. I think he made the right choice. It's
good for him. All Right, we do it every Monday.
Colin right, Colin wrong? Here we go where Colin was right. Well,
I've said it for years and I'll say it again.
The NFL and professional football is king in America. The
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American Alliance of Football, which is an awful name for
a league, beat the NBA Saturday night. And it wasn't
just an NBA game. It was Russell Westbrook, James Harden,
Chris Paul, Paul George, Rockets Thunder. I mean that's remarkable.
It was a star stud an NBA game. Now, I
don't think they're going to beat the NBA. You know,
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over the rest of the season, a lot of these
games will not be on CBS, They'll be on their
cable outfit. But I do believe, and I've said this
for years, do not listen to the media. Do not
listen to the NFL is dying. It's just a bunch
of absolute nonsense. This is the sport that we bet.
We watched the combine, which is people getting measured from
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colleges We've never seen on television doing cone drills. We
will watch a spring football league. I think either this league,
the XFL, which will be introduced next year at this time,
or both will make Maybe they converge over four or
five years, but spring football will, I believe absolutely work.
In America where Colin was raw, Lebrow never happened. Listen,
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when I started hearing all the rumors last week, my
feeling was Lebrow's gonna work. They're gonna make this happen.
But our Lebrown meter is officially under construction. I'm not
even shirt today. To be honest with you, I'm not
sure today Anthony Davis would be great with Lebron, and
I'm not sure he's ever going to be a Laker.
I think I do think the Lakers have the ability
to pay for a max guy, and they'll get one,
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but maybe Jimmy Butler and not Anthony Davis. Maybe it's
a Bradley Beale and It's not an Anthony Davis. But
when I saw that cash a that the Pelicans turned
down reportedly, I kind of bought into it. I thought
this poppy's gonna happen. I don't think the Pelicans are
ever going to get a better deal than the one
that was out there. But right now the Lebrow meter
is under construction. Where Colin was right. I've never understood
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the triple double. It means nothing. Here's what I know.
Oklahoma City's won ten of eleven. Why because Russell Westbrook
is shooting less. Triple doubles don't mean anything to me.
What means something to me is, as we predicted, PAULA.
George would become Oklahoma City's best player. It's twenty nineteen.
Westbrook can't shoot. He can't be taking twenty three shots
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a game. Westbrook is now significantly less of a volume shooter,
and magically, Oklahoma City is now working very well together.
Paul George is their best player. Paul George is averaging
thirty five points over his last eleven games and shooting
forty eight percent on threes, and they're red hot. I'll
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say it again, you cannot win big in this league.
If Westbrook is shooting twenty five times. You cannot win
in this league big time. It's an exhausting style and
he is not efficient enough. And I don't give a
rip about triple doubles. They don't mean anything. You know
what matters? Okayse's one ten of eleven. Why Westbrook shooting less?
Paul Georgia can shoot? Is shooting more? Where Colin was?
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Ben Simmons Sixers, What happened? What happened, I'll tell you
what happened. He's dating a Jenner. He didn't work in
the off season, and he's completely plateaued. I thought this
guy was going to take over the Philadelphia seventy six ers,
but Lebron's defense against him yesterday was just don't guard him.
He was three for thirteen. There were times he looked
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like the seventh best player on the floor. And Joe Lmbad,
who I like. He's funny and he's talented, but he's
a center, is clearly the sixers best player. He's their
physical leader and beads, their emotional leader, he's their communication leader.
He's the player other players like Ben Simmons and I
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don't know this, but I'm just gonna say it. I
don't know if basketball means enough to him right now
in his life. He has not improved one iota on
his primary weakness, shooting oh for fourteen on threes. You
think you'd work on that a little in the offseason,
and he obviously did not. Where Colin was right, Kyrie
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Irving's hurt again. I've said, folks, it's a little bit
of a diva. He's a point guard that dune path.
He's a little flaky, wanted out of Lebron and now
won't commit to Brad Stevens, and he's hurt all the time.
For the record, the Cavaliers with Kyrie Irving before Lebron
got there were awful, and the Celtics got to the
Eastern Conference Finals Game seven without him. I'm not saying
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he's not talented. There is a ton of sizzle with
Kyrie Irving. I don't see a lot of steak. I
don't see the body component. I don't see the emotional discipline.
I don't see a rock solid guy for ten years.
I'm all in. I'm building around him. I see that
with Anthony Davis, I see it with Janis, I even
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see it with Kawhi Leonard. I'm seeing it now with
Paul George. I see it with Lebron so a lot
of guys in this league. I see it with James Harden,
but Kyrie Irving be very careful about saying that's my guy.
And that's what I'm going to build around. Big gap
between talent and franchise player. There's a lot of talent
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in basketball, not a lot of guys. I'm gonna build around.
Where Colin was right. John Wall got hurt. That's unfortunate.
He's out for two years, and that stinks for the Wizards.
But here's what's not crazy. They were eleven and twenty
two with him, they're now thirteen and ten without John Wall. Listen,
the guy's talented, and I feel bad for the Wizards
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and John Wall, but let's be honest here. He's not
a winner. He doesn't make people better. And frankly, now
he is the owner of the worst contract in NBA history,
and there is not a second place. It hasn't even
started yet. He is going to average forty four million
dollars a year and he's going to be coming off
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a debilitating surgery. And I feel bad for Wall because
he is an exciting player. He's good for the league.
He's fun. But I never bought into John Wall as
a franchise player, and I've said this for years. Hyper
athletic point guards that are not great shooters do not
age well. And I've never believed Wall had the leadership
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component that helped his team win. They are now better
officially when he's not there where Colin was row. I
love Dak Prescott's maturity, but man, I don't like his
comments about tom Brady's wife. He said yesterday, nobody's wife
makes as much money as his wife does. Just don't
go there. Tom Brady's been taken restructuring in paycuts. You know,
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tom Brady's never made twenty million dollars. Tom Brady has
been underpaid his entire career. But that's because tom Brady's
been constantly restructuring it. It's not because of Giselle. He
was restructuring his deal pre Giselle. And I really do
like Dak Prescott, but there's a qualifier. I like him
at a price. Listen, I drove a Honda Prelude in
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high school. In college. I wouldn't pay forty thousand for it,
but I did like it. Everything's got a price and
I think Dak Prescott did something that he's almost never
done in the NFL misstep. It's a very unda comment.
Yes I don't necessarily disagree with all of it, but
it's very undocked, like he'd normally be like, oh, whatever,
Tom makes his Tom's business right where Colin was right.
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Mark L. Foults, remember when I told you this past year,
I said, don't buy the pr spin. This guy's in
the witness protection program. They literally won't show you video
of him shooting. He's a shooting guard. He is now
officially last two years, he was traded for an end table.
It's over like he's a shooting guard that can't shoot.
And I didn't buy into this. Listen, he's just coming around.
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Remember the quotes he were hearing six months ago. Listen,
he's really found his touch. Were excited for him. Mark L.
Folts is going to prove everybody wrong. And then there
was this grainy like weird video that surfaced where he'd
had this awful shooting mode and it end up some
gym in Northville or something. This story has been a
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nightmare from the beginning. I feel bad for the kid,
but I never bought for a second the rehab was working.
He was a bust. It was a bad pick. They
moved up to get him, allowing the Celtics get the
guy they really wanted, Jason Tatum. It is an all
time bust where Colin was right tip of the cap
to TNT. They televised their All Star Games selection with
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Jannis and Lebron James and they should have a year ago.
And it was great television. And this is what the
NBA's about. Charles Barkley was funny, and Shack was funny,
and Lebron and Jannis and everybody was funny. And that's
exactly what the NBA should have. We have some sound
of it. They didn't want to televise it last year.
They were worried about how it would play. And as
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you'll see, it played great. With my first pick in
a second round, I'm gong with Anthony Davis. You're sure
you want him to be your teammate. I even know,
I'm very sure of that. Isn't that tempering no temp
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rules does not imply on All Star weekend? Well, I
think the best way to do this for Yannis to
trade everybody on his bench Anthony Davis. That was great
and the NBA embraced this stuff. Doug Gottlieb and I
disagree on that. Just embrace all this player movement. As
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Steve Kerr said to soap Opera, one of the real
revenue stream creators in the NBA is all this soap
opera stuff. Colin right, Colin wrong again. Kyler Murray has
chosen the NFL over baseball. He's the spectacularly fun quarterback
for the Oklahoma Sooners, between Patrick Mahomes and Baker Mayfield,
big twelve quarterbacks being you know, success stories in the NFL.
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It's ended that narrative. The big twelve quarterbacks don't work.
And I think you had Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray's
a much better thrower than Lamar come into this league
and you know, kind of chop it up and tear
it up and leave the Ravens over the Steelers. So
I think between that momentum, I think Kyler Murray made
the right choice. I think he's gonna get drafted in
the first round. If I'm Jacksonville, I think Jacksonville's roster
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with a right quarterback, I think he would be a
completely game changing, dynamic player for them. He is remarkably
small when compared to even other smaller quarterbacks. But I
think the kid chose the right sport. One more Herd.
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live or on demand whenever you like. My dog Buddy
is not disciplined enough to be in that because he
chases cats around the house all the tell we have
beautiful cats and he just he just is annoying. He
doesn't want to hurt him. He wants to play with
him all day. So you could have Buddy all trained
in the minute he saw a cat out of his
left eye, he'd fly around the corner. And you don't
think he could make him go around not undisciplined dog
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Katino Mobley over a decade in the NBA Dog or
Cat guy. You know what, I grew up with cats.
I have a dog now named Boomer Golden Retriever. Yeah,
discipline the best. He's the best dog. Disciplined he is
he is. Unless if we leave him at the house,
you know he'll he'll probably just like Marcus Territory because
nobody walking well the net Boomers pretty cool. So what
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do you make Lakers beat the Celtics, the world explodes
in glee, and then they go get hammered by the Sixers,
which is the reality of it to me. They're a
young team that needs Lebron in the court, and when
he's not, they're wildly inconsistent. What do you make of
them as a team. Listen, they're young, they and when
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you're young, I think people are a little more patient
with you. Now, when Lebron was out for those seventeen
games they went or whatever how many games they were
six and twelve or something like that. If you go,
if you win ten ten eleven of those were not
even talking about them, you know, if Lebron wasn't hurt
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and Lebron was in, if you win ten eleven those games,
you're like in fourth place still. Again, I just think
that with all this chaos with those guys, those younger guys,
it's hard for them to play hard one hundred percent
every single day knowing something can happen, you know, behind
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the scenes. Oh, I think that they all see themselves
as totally expendable. Now. I think psychologically it matters, and
these kids are younger than ever. Kyle Kuzma is rare
most of these guys come right out of college after
a year and they're not ready for it. They're just
trying to figure the league out emotionally, and then your
scene is a pawn. I mean, I would say this.
You know the NBA is funny this way. Do you
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think the Lakers win a playoff series this year? Yes,
you know, I listen. It's like betting against Tom Brady
and Bellowship. I can't bet against Lebron James. So I
give Lebron James the odds of winning a playoff series.
I do, Okay, So they're gonna have to play either that.
You know, they're not gonna be a top three seas
so they're gonna have to play Houston, Golden Stain or
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Oklahoma City, and I don't think they can beat those teams.
You're you're right, you're right, But those teams have to
beat Lebron James four times right in Houston. You're a
little banged up James. You make is extraordinary as you
are at the moment. It takes a toll on your
body when the playoffs happen. Not saying that you know
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the first round you're not going to do well, But
I'm betting on Lebron James and whoever he's playing, he's
going to give him a run for their money. Whoever
he's playing, and you have Rondo with you, they know
how to win. And if those guys stay healthy, I'm
betting with those guys because they're winners. I want to
go to Russell Westbrook that he is shooting less and
they're winning more. I'm not into this triple double stuff.
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When I'm in news double us, I'm not into those
stats which I think you can have a bad game
and have a triple double. I mean, if Lebron went ten,
ten and ten would be an awful game for Lebron
and they have a triple double. I don't care about it.
What I care about is Westbrook is listening, he's shooting
lest they're winning more. Here's my question, though that's fine
in the regular season, we get to the playoffs. I've
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watched Westbrook. Is it fair for me to say, Katino,
once we get to the playoffs, I don't see Westbrook
as being as giving as he is today. I agree,
because listen, what I've earned in life is I don't
pay attention to so much of what you say, but
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what you do. It's a pattern. I'm listening to the
pattern right, I'm watching. I'm listening to the pattern that
you are now. I was speaking about this earlier. Russell
Westbrook is amazing, is an amazing athlete. Yes, I think
now is the eleventh year, ten to eleventh year. Russell
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has got to the point where it now is like
I don't really have anything individually to prove now and
I have to literally sacrifice my ego to win. Can
you do that? That's great now in the season, but
I need to see you win its finals and will
you be the old Russell or the new one? I
got a bet on a Lion's going to be a
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lion Russell's You're gonna be Russell unless you prove to
me wrong that you're going to defer to Paul George
in the playoffs. I saw him implode last two years
in the playoffs. Yeah, that's why. That's why Paul George
had a bad series last year against Utah. It was inconsistent,
He had no consistency, and he needs the ball more. Yeah,
I mean, I think at this point Paul is a
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better two way player, right. I think that's not a
shout of Westbrook. He is. I think Paul is one
of the top three two way players in the NBA,
is true, and I think he's about the twelfth best player.
But he and Kawhi Leonard to me in Clay Thompson
of the best two way players in the NBA. That's true.
All right, that's true. What do you make of the
Celtics Kyrie Irving's hurt again? You had kind of an
interesting take on this. Um. There is this belief if
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the Boston Celtics are the guide to rebuilding. But this morning,
Kyrie Irving's hurt again, Gordon Hayward's not working, and Anthony
Davis I've been told last week they're not gonna be
a Celtic. Do you buy into the Celtics long term?
Kyrie got hurt again. I don't. Why not? I don't.
I think they reached a peak. Um, it's the weirdest thing.
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It's the other day when they lost against the Lakers.
If you notice who's the best defender Boston Celtics, Marcus
Marcus Smart. He's not in the game. One foul, He's
not in the game. At the end of the game.
You have Gordon Hayward, in no disrespect to Gordon Haywood.
But you're not a stopper, So why why is Marcus
Smart not in? You had timeouts? Why is Marcus Smart
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not in the game. Kudos to the Lakers for winning
it right and coming back, but why is Marcus Smart
not in the game? That's one of them. So you
have this, do you have a team full of talent
that don't mesh well? Well, well, yesterday one of their
players came out and said, it's not fun here. We
feel I feel like we're individuals. That was one of
the Celtic players yesterday. And they think about that. He
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said this yesterday. But prior to that, a week ago,
prior today, they were what the last twelve games ten?
They won ten and lost two. So for him to
say that right now, I don't know about that so
much as far as actually he is going to my
point with Marcus Smart. Now, Mars says it, guys are
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a little inconsistent, like it's not like last year. So
it's not you bring Gordon Hayward over, who Brad Stevens loves.
Not sure if the players do. Kyrie's his own dude.
He's in Alpha, but he's his own dude. What you're
basically saying, is the collection of talent on papers impressive?
But there are a five seed in the East today.
It's not mashing right. And see Brad Stevens loves Gordon Hayward.
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That's cool. Guess what. I loved my high school girlfriend too.
But we all grow. We all grow where don't we
Like you're still loving the person that was at Butler,
Like he's totally different and he doesn't fit well with
that team. I don't think he's so either. That seems faster,
more athletic. And yeah, you came off an injury and
I understand that and we want to give you time,
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but you still don't fit well with those guys. Yeah,
I think even Celtic fans would acknowledge Gordon Hayward hasn't
been a great fit matters. Yeah, it does. The chemistry, Okay.
I think the Golden State Warriors in terms of stars,
do it better than anybody. Their coach deflects criticism. He's
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media savvy. Steph Curry's like the world's greatest star teammate.
You're in a city in San Francisco where you know
Kevin Durant can go in and just score, drive home,
put it you know, put some music in the car
and the Mercedes is a good life. I think going
to the next they lose with Kevin, He's gonna take
all the heat and I don't think he's one of
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those guys built for that. I think Kevin's a sensitive guys.
I think he's super You've played with guys like that, Yeah, yeah,
like like you didn't deal with the social media. Kevin sensitive.
I think he can do a little hiding in Golden State.
I don't like to move to the next It's just
too much pressure. The organization is a little messed up,
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right when it comes to the ownership. How they Yeah,
I know, lack of a better terms. Playing with Golden State,
when you have Stephren Curry as the most important player
to me on that team that makes that team run,
it's like Tom Brady. If I'm not whining and I'm
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not doing this, and I'm taking these cuts and I'm
doing X, Y and Z, everybody else should fall in line.
You have four guys on that team, not even counting
k d who whose IQ is super high from like
a point card perspective, so things are easier. You can
kind of defer, or you can be the leader, and
no one cares. If you go somewhere else and you
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got Golden State fans, you know, I mean, they're amazing.
Then you go to New York and it's a little
harder to live. The fans they're expecting greatness right away.
It's gonna be hard for you, Kevin, because you and
not in a bad way, but he is. He wears
his emotions on his sleepers say Aaron Rodgers, same exact way. Yeah,
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they're not wrong with Aaron. But by the way, Kevin
and Aaron are single, don't have kids, so they go
home at night and they're on their device. Right. No,
I mean seriously, right, you go home, you got kids,
you got responsibilities, you got a wife. And I say
this all the time, is that I don't have time
to be on the angry bird all day. I can't be.
I can't, I don't, I don't. What did they say,
idle time is a devil's playground. Yeah, Like, if you
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have so much time and something hurts you right away,
my daughter come over and give me a kiss and
I'm cool. My son come and actually throw the football
and I'm okay. A lot of these guys, they have
so much time they can just get on them voice
and it gets in their head for whatever reason, like
just let it go, you know, count to five, a
count to ten and let it go, a lot of
this stuff, but they just voice it. Great seeing you man,
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Thanks for having me. Are you on speak for yourself today? Yeah?
That's good. You are the best dressed guests we have. Goulet,
you could take a thing or two from this guy.
Be like, if Gouley dressed like this every day for
the show Joy, wouldn't that be? Nobody wears a suit
better than well, I mean, Goulet's back there. You might
wear sweatpants, you know. Yeah, it's the only like from
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Good to have you enjoyed, Good to see you. Hope
your weekend was great. It was great. How was yours?
Just a goodday out Friday? Little skiing back, ready to
go nice, Let's see it, flying down that hill, flying
down this hill. Here we go. So I was off Friday.
So on Thursday night the Lakers beat the Celtics for
John Rondo last second win. And you know I watched
the end of the game, and then I Friday morning,
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I woke up and I went on the internet and
people were going crazy and headlines were unbelievable, and it
saved the season. The Lakers season has been saved. They
can beat anybody. They've come together. This team is for real.
That is total, utter nonsense. So I checked my phone
and I thought, well, who do they play next? They're
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out East Sixers, and I thought to myself, well, what
do they go get beat by twenty five of the Sixers?
L O L They did NBA media settle down individual
wins in February or irrelevant. The Lakers are a completely
average team and that game didn't save any season. They're
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one star and thirteen possible transactions. Kyle Kuzma's their second
best player, and he disappears in games he did against
the Sixers. He does it all the time, and he's
their second best player. And I know they're all transactions
because I read stories last week where the Lakers were
willing to give up every single young player. And I
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scolded the Lakers and I said, this is a big mistake.
Do not get into business with the Pelicans like this.
It will get ugly. It's a cautionary tale. When a
team like the Pelicans has nothing to lose, be very
careful about what you offer. They're just manipulating you. Because
the Lakers put out a list of seven players and
five draft picks they were willing to give up. All
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the players now know their pawns. This is an average
team with one great player on the back nine of
his career. Though he's still remarkable, he's not as dominant
as he once was. He's coming off an injury. Only
one other player is a true asset, Kyle Kuzma, and
he disappears in games. And I thought the trade and
all of it, and all the nonsense in the media
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confuse an average locker room. Javail McGhee. Magic Johnson flew
out to the East Coast to talk to the kids
and talk to the team after all those trade rumors
were out there, and JaVale McGee was asked by the
La Times what he made of Magic Johnson talking to
the players about all the trade rumors that never transpired.
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JaVale McGee said, it felt good. How am I supposed
to answer that? How did I feel? Tingly inside? I
don't know. The reporter said, was it productive? Yeah, I
got so much out of it. It's crazy, DP Exhale.
I don't know what you're trying to ask. Yeah, either
do I. Magic Johnson flew out to soothe the young
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players who are freaking out, which all young people, middle
aged people, or old people would do if they feel
they're completely expendable. Magic Johnson talked about that meeting with
the team with making this about thinking these guys of babies,
because that's what you're treating. They're professionals, all of them.
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And then this is how this league works. They know it.
I know it. All deals though a lot of them
remain in puffic. We didn't make it in puppet. That's
what happens. We got big boys too. They bounced back.
They're fine, They're not fine. They didn't look fine yesterday.
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This is not about kids being babies. I'll say it again.
Luke Walton is in big trouble. This is a confused
locker room. And be very careful about doing business with
people who have nothing to lose. The Pelicans didn't dirtied
up all the trade rumors and manipulated Magic and the Lakers.
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I don't blame the players if you can sense your
demise or the fact that you're completely expendable. That's tough
for anyybody to deal with. Guys are some people are married,
some have families, some are comfortable with their current employer.
That win against the Celtic take a deep breath, meant nothing.
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This is going to be an incredibly choppy second half
and Luke Walton, unfortunately will take the hit. Let me
shift gears to this. This is really confusing because I
like this player. There is a rule in professional sports.
There's two things you don't talk about. You don't talk
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about another player's wife, and you don't talk about another
player's money. Oh wait, Dak Prescott this weekend talked about both.
Nobody's wife makes as much money as his wife does either,
So make sure we know that, all right. When Tom
Brady's isn't the breadwinner in the home, then that's a
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great problem to have. So in that case, he can
do that, he can, he can you know, do his
contracts however you want to do him. Oh, brother, tom
Brady's wife. First of all, once you get to one
hundred million dollars net worth, hundred and fifty million dollars
net worth simply doesn't matter, It doesn't change anything. It's
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all about ego. Tom Brady has been restructuring his contract
pre Gizelle and post Giselle because Tom Brady is all
about winning. Kirk Cousins isn't. Kirk Cousins is about getting
his money. Kirk Cousins isn't dumb. Kirk Cousins knows that
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the more a quarterback makes, the less you can afford
on your offensive line or in your running game, both
liabilities last year for the Vikings. Players make decisions all
the time. NBA stars make a boatload of money with
apparel and shoes. Therefore, guys like Kevin Durant best served
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taking a little less to win more and shaping his legacy.
Dak Prescott has all the data in the world. Now
he is saying he will not take a paycut, He
has all the data in the world. It is clear
that in a salary cap league, the top six paid quarterbacks,
none of them made the playoffs last year. Does Dak
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Prescott really believe that those two major endorsement deals he's got,
one with a yogurt and one with Campbell's soup, that
he would have those if not for the Dallas Cowboys really,
he really believes that does Dak Prescott believe that Zeke
makes him better, that front seven defensively puts him in
better field position, and that Tyron Smith at left tackle
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has elevated his protection. Once data is provided to any American,
then the choices are yours. Tom Brady has been restructuring
his deal. He did it back in the Randy Moss
days because Tom Brady's a winner. Tom Brady knew that
if I take less, we can get Randy Moss and
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we can keep he and Wes Welker. That's what Brady's
been doing very early in his career. That's why he
fits so well in New England. In fact, I wouldn't
be surprised if New England doesn't just pay Brady in
goats since he is one. This is not about anything
about a wife, about money. That is just an excuse
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to take money and hurt your legacy. There's something very
clear that is happening. The two biggest stars in America
right now in sports are NBA stars and NFL quarterbacks,
and with both we have decisions that need to be
made by those stars. In quarterbacks, we know that quarterbacks
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are better served Drew Brees a great example of taking
a little less, and since Brees decided to do that
several years ago, the Saints running game and offensive line
and defense are significantly better. And it should be noted
that Steph Curry made forty two million dollars last year
off the court, Clay Thompson made thirteen and has virtually
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no personality. Kevin Durant makes more with Nike than he
does with the Warriors. But those players know that nobody
really watches the NBA from October to February, but they
do watch in April, May and June. And you want
to be on TV, and you'll be on TV if
you're on a team good enough to win series after
series after series. So NFL quarterbacks and NBA stars, be
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it the wife or the shoe deal, know that career
longevity and elevation is secured by not being data now
clearly provided. The highest paid guy, Dak Prescott Brady's not
about his wife. It's not anything about that Tom made
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a career decision pre Gazelle. I want to constantly restructure
my deal because I want to win games. The question, now, Dak,
do you be sure to catch live editions of the
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Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. So the
New York Knicks did something I thought was really brilliant.
Actually I thought this was absolutely brilliant by the New
York Knicks, very very funny. So they were asking their
fans about ticket renewals, and they put Kevin Durant, who
is rumored to be interested in the Knicks in that photo.
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By the way, I couldn't tell you who that Nick is,
but I know it's Kevin Durant. This is not tampering.
It is not tampering. It's brilliant, it's funny, and they
should have never taken it down. Though they were pressured.
The NBA gases up their stars and then they just
don't like it when their stars have mobility. This is
not tampering. In fact, I'd argue it's pampering. The Knicks
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are pampering their season tickets, selling them a dream and
hope and optimism. That's pampering, not tampering. By the way,
Lebron with the Yannis, they were on a TV show
Charles Barkley included Shag and so they were drafting they've
decided to televise this. It's very very smart, very funny.
I love it. So they televise now star players Yannis
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for the East, Lebron for the West, and they pick
they're all star teams. It's a great idea. They televised
it and they were joking about all the tampering stuff.
With my first pick in a second round, I'm going
with Anthony Davis. You're sure you want him to be
your teammate. I know, I'm very sure of that. Isn't
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that tampering doesn't imply well, I think the best way
to do this for Yannis to trade everybody on his
bench for Anthony Davis. Ah, that's hilarious, Charles Barkley, this
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is part and parcel to the league. Being afraid of
player mobility is like being afraid of technology. Hey, it's
not going anywhere, and b it's a whole lot of fun.
Steve Kerr came out after one of his stars, Kevin Durant,
was pushing back and all the rumors about where Kevin
Durant was going to play, and Steve Kerr, like Lebron,
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was very level headed. He said, we're all actors in
a soap opera. Understand that's a big part of the
revenue stream. The intense interest and passion that fans have
where who why, what team people. It'd be nice if
people just paid attention to pick and roll coverage, but
they don't. Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Anthony Davis. A huge
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component to their wealth is the speculation. You know. That's
why TV people make more than newspaper people. Were called
TV shows and there's TV stars. That's why newspapers have
people that cover television, and television doesn't have people that
cover newspapers and breakdown columns. That's the way the game works.
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TV is a show. The NBA is entertainment. What the
Knicks did was pampering, not tampering. There is no reason
to be afraid of it. What are we protecting with
Anthony Davis and the Pelicans his great legacy there, God,
they were called all hornets fifteen minutes ago. I love
how Lebron handled it. I love how Steve Kerr handled it.
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In an ideal, perfect world, we would deeply care about
the minutia of sports, and we don't. One of the
reasons I like the NBA. In fact, I preferred over
baseball is because of the soap operas, and of the
rumors and of the speculation, and of the constant elevation
of storylines. It's just more fun. Tip of the cap
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to Janis, Barkley, Kerr and Lebron. That's what this league's
all about. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Herd weekdays and noon Easter ninety Empacific. Kyler Murray breaking
news has announced he will play football over choosing Major
League baseball. He was the quarterback for the Oklahoma Sooners.
He is much smaller than any quarterback that's had success
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in this league. I think he's slightly shorter than Doug Flutie.
He is a remarkable athlete baseball and football. I do
believe he will be drafted in the first round. I
do believe he made a very smart choice choosing football
over baseball. He's going to get as a first round pick,
four years of guaranteed money. He is firmly and fully
committed to his life to become an NFL quarterback. It's
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on his Twitter today. I agree with him. I think
it's the smart move. I also think he's a fascinating
player and instead of going to minor league baseball and disappearing.
He will be playing on Sundays and getting mega endorsement
deals if he succeeds. I think this is the obvious choice.
And I think there's two things. The NFL's a copycat league.
Number One, you watch Lamar Jackson come in, and he's
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not a totally developed thrower. Kyler Murray's a way better
thrower than Lamar Jackson. But he runs around a lot
and he got he got his team to Ravens to
the playoffs running around a lot. Now, Kyler Murray is
a much better thrower of the football. Kyler Murray. If
there's a prototype in the NFL, I'd say it's Russell Wilson. Again,
Russell Wilson's one of the best quarterbacks I've ever seen,
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So it's it's not fair to compare anybody to Russell Wilson.
There's a little bit of Russell Wilson. There's a little
bit of Johnny Manziel, although I think he's a much
better athlete than Johnny Manziel and I frankly think he's
a better thrower of the football than Johnny Manziel. We
kind of put all of the shorter quarterbacks in one category, right,
They really aren't that much funny, Like you would never
say Johnny Manziel as the same type of quarterback as
Russell Wills. Well, if what's funny is I think Russell
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Wilson got Johnny Manziel drafted. But it's the mature at
of Russell Wilson that makes him not just running around parts.
He's a really bright, mature guy. So I think Murray
is a draftable first round quarterback. Again, probably not a guy.
My number one quarterback is Dwayne Haskins at Ohio State.
He's not a runner at all. He is a complete
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one percent pocket passer. That's my favorite quarterback. He's a big,
strong kid for the Buckeyes. But Kyler Murray is draftable.
He's really small. He looks small in the college game.
In the NFL, he'll look really small, and that's not
true because I'm six to one and he's not close
to me. I'd say it's closer to five eight and
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a half. But I think here's the ether thing. So
the NFL's copycat league. We had a run around guy
Lamar Jackson and to some degree, Mitch Traubisky lead their
team to the playoffs. Okay, the second thing is the
big twelve. Everybody always rolled their eyes at the big twelve, right,
big twelve quarterbacks run and shoot, this stuff can't work
in it. And Baker Mainfield came in, You're like, oh, oh,
big twelve quarterbacks, because NFL looks more and more like
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big twelve football. Now everybody spread out. You know the
Super Bowl that was standing, you know, most of the
NFL this year was guys running around. Pat Rick Mahomes,
Baker Mayfield. Big twelve quarterbacks are now having success in
the NFL. So I think the kid made the right choice.
Probably not a guy i'd build around first. But here's
the NFL draft order. Here it is. I'll give it
to you right now. Arizona Cardinals, just keep your NYE, Arizona.
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I think if I was the Buccaneers at five, I
would consider drafting him. If I was the Jacksonville Jaguars
at seven, I think I would draft him. I think
I would draft him. I'm not joking. If the Denver Broncos,
probably not. I don't think John Gruden, by the way
he said he loves him, Raiders have the fourth pick again.
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The world's changing now. Ten years ago, I would have
laughed at this, But Russell Wilson's five eleven and a
half and he's gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
He's got the best quarterback ranking in the fourth quarter
in the history of the league outside of I think
Aaron Rodgers, and I think people Johnny Manzel got drafted
because of Russell Wilson and the idea of the you know,
you're five eleven, five ten, You can't plan this league.
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The league's changed. The league's changed now. I would still
rather have a pocket guy. Okay, that my favorite quarterbacks
in this league, your guys who can sit in the
pocket and throw darts. But there's the NFL gives you
about college football gives you one of those every year
one if you need a quarterback. The coaching staff sitting
there thinking, okay, this is Kyler Murray's really interesting. So
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good congratulations to the kid. I think he made the
right call. I think he's going to be exciting, and
I think you can go disappear in the minor leagues
in baseball, or you can go be a first round
pick in the NFL. It's a no brainer. It's a
total no brainer. As a kid, you mean again, you
can go play in Modesto or you know, you know,
middle in Texas well. Also, I think Tim Tebow has
shown that you can try your hand at the NFL
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and go back to baseball if you're really that skill
about it. You know what, He's interesting. I want to
see the kid play. Yeah, I want to see the
kid play. I think he made the right choice. It's
good for him. All Right, we do it every Monday.
Colin right, Colin wrong? Here we go where Colin was right. Well,
I've said it for years and I'll say it again.
The NFL and professional football is king in America. The
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American Alliance of Football, which is an awful name for
a league, beat the NBA Saturday night. And it wasn't
just an NBA game. It was Russell Westbrook, James Harden,
Chris Paul, Paul George, Rockets Thunder. I mean that's remarkable.
It was a star stud an NBA game. Now, I
don't think they're going to beat the NBA. You know,
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over the rest of the season, a lot of these
games will not be on CBS, They'll be on their
cable outfit. But I do believe, and I've said this
for years, do not listen to the media. Do not
listen to the NFL is dying. It's just a bunch
of absolute nonsense. This is the sport that we bet.
We watched the combine, which is people getting measured from
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colleges We've never seen on television doing cone drills. We
will watch a spring football league. I think either this league,
the XFL, which will be introduced next year at this time,
or both will make Maybe they converge over four or
five years, but spring football will, I believe absolutely work.
In America where Colin was raw, Lebrow never happened. Listen,
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when I started hearing all the rumors last week, my
feeling was Lebrow's gonna work. They're gonna make this happen.
But our Lebrown meter is officially under construction. I'm not
even shirt today. To be honest with you, I'm not
sure today Anthony Davis would be great with Lebron, and
I'm not sure he's ever going to be a Laker.
I think I do think the Lakers have the ability
to pay for a max guy, and they'll get one,
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but maybe Jimmy Butler and not Anthony Davis. Maybe it's
a Bradley Beale and It's not an Anthony Davis. But
when I saw that cash a that the Pelicans turned
down reportedly, I kind of bought into it. I thought
this poppy's gonna happen. I don't think the Pelicans are
ever going to get a better deal than the one
that was out there. But right now the Lebrow meter
is under construction. Where Colin was right. I've never understood
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the triple double. It means nothing. Here's what I know.
Oklahoma City's won ten of eleven. Why because Russell Westbrook
is shooting less. Triple doubles don't mean anything to me.
What means something to me is, as we predicted, PAULA.
George would become Oklahoma City's best player. It's twenty nineteen.
Westbrook can't shoot. He can't be taking twenty three shots
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a game. Westbrook is now significantly less of a volume shooter,
and magically, Oklahoma City is now working very well together.
Paul George is their best player. Paul George is averaging
thirty five points over his last eleven games and shooting
forty eight percent on threes, and they're red hot. I'll
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say it again, you cannot win big in this league.
If Westbrook is shooting twenty five times. You cannot win
in this league big time. It's an exhausting style and
he is not efficient enough. And I don't give a
rip about triple doubles. They don't mean anything. You know
what matters? Okayse's one ten of eleven. Why Westbrook shooting less?
Paul Georgia can shoot? Is shooting more? Where Colin was?
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Ben Simmons Sixers, What happened? What happened, I'll tell you
what happened. He's dating a Jenner. He didn't work in
the off season, and he's completely plateaued. I thought this
guy was going to take over the Philadelphia seventy six ers,
but Lebron's defense against him yesterday was just don't guard him.
He was three for thirteen. There were times he looked
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like the seventh best player on the floor. And Joe Lmbad,
who I like. He's funny and he's talented, but he's
a center, is clearly the sixers best player. He's their
physical leader and beads, their emotional leader, he's their communication leader.
He's the player other players like Ben Simmons and I
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don't know this, but I'm just gonna say it. I
don't know if basketball means enough to him right now
in his life. He has not improved one iota on
his primary weakness, shooting oh for fourteen on threes. You
think you'd work on that a little in the offseason,
and he obviously did not. Where Colin was right, Kyrie
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Irving's hurt again. I've said, folks, it's a little bit
of a diva. He's a point guard that dune path.
He's a little flaky, wanted out of Lebron and now
won't commit to Brad Stevens, and he's hurt all the time.
For the record, the Cavaliers with Kyrie Irving before Lebron
got there were awful, and the Celtics got to the
Eastern Conference Finals Game seven without him. I'm not saying
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he's not talented. There is a ton of sizzle with
Kyrie Irving. I don't see a lot of steak. I
don't see the body component. I don't see the emotional discipline.
I don't see a rock solid guy for ten years.
I'm all in. I'm building around him. I see that
with Anthony Davis, I see it with Janis, I even
(23:48):
see it with Kawhi Leonard. I'm seeing it now with
Paul George. I see it with Lebron so a lot
of guys in this league. I see it with James Harden,
but Kyrie Irving be very careful about saying that's my guy.
And that's what I'm going to build around. Big gap
between talent and franchise player. There's a lot of talent
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in basketball, not a lot of guys. I'm gonna build around.
Where Colin was right. John Wall got hurt. That's unfortunate.
He's out for two years, and that stinks for the Wizards.
But here's what's not crazy. They were eleven and twenty
two with him, they're now thirteen and ten without John Wall. Listen,
the guy's talented, and I feel bad for the Wizards
(24:29):
and John Wall, but let's be honest here. He's not
a winner. He doesn't make people better. And frankly, now
he is the owner of the worst contract in NBA history,
and there is not a second place. It hasn't even
started yet. He is going to average forty four million
dollars a year and he's going to be coming off
(24:50):
a debilitating surgery. And I feel bad for Wall because
he is an exciting player. He's good for the league.
He's fun. But I never bought into John Wall as
a franchise player, and I've said this for years. Hyper
athletic point guards that are not great shooters do not
age well. And I've never believed Wall had the leadership
(25:13):
component that helped his team win. They are now better
officially when he's not there where Colin was row. I
love Dak Prescott's maturity, but man, I don't like his
comments about tom Brady's wife. He said yesterday, nobody's wife
makes as much money as his wife does. Just don't
go there. Tom Brady's been taken restructuring in paycuts. You know,
(25:37):
tom Brady's never made twenty million dollars. Tom Brady has
been underpaid his entire career. But that's because tom Brady's
been constantly restructuring it. It's not because of Giselle. He
was restructuring his deal pre Giselle. And I really do
like Dak Prescott, but there's a qualifier. I like him
at a price. Listen, I drove a Honda Prelude in
(25:59):
high school. In college. I wouldn't pay forty thousand for it,
but I did like it. Everything's got a price and
I think Dak Prescott did something that he's almost never
done in the NFL misstep. It's a very unda comment.
Yes I don't necessarily disagree with all of it, but
it's very undocked, like he'd normally be like, oh, whatever,
Tom makes his Tom's business right where Colin was right.
(26:20):
Mark L. Foults, remember when I told you this past year,
I said, don't buy the pr spin. This guy's in
the witness protection program. They literally won't show you video
of him shooting. He's a shooting guard. He is now
officially last two years, he was traded for an end table.
It's over like he's a shooting guard that can't shoot.
And I didn't buy into this. Listen, he's just coming around.
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Remember the quotes he were hearing six months ago. Listen,
he's really found his touch. Were excited for him. Mark L.
Folts is going to prove everybody wrong. And then there
was this grainy like weird video that surfaced where he'd
had this awful shooting mode and it end up some
gym in Northville or something. This story has been a
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nightmare from the beginning. I feel bad for the kid,
but I never bought for a second the rehab was working.
He was a bust. It was a bad pick. They
moved up to get him, allowing the Celtics get the
guy they really wanted, Jason Tatum. It is an all
time bust where Colin was right tip of the cap
to TNT. They televised their All Star Games selection with
(27:30):
Jannis and Lebron James and they should have a year ago.
And it was great television. And this is what the
NBA's about. Charles Barkley was funny, and Shack was funny,
and Lebron and Jannis and everybody was funny. And that's
exactly what the NBA should have. We have some sound
of it. They didn't want to televise it last year.
They were worried about how it would play. And as
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you'll see, it played great. With my first pick in
a second round, I'm gong with Anthony Davis. You're sure
you want him to be your teammate. I even know,
I'm very sure of that. Isn't that tempering no temp
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rules does not imply on All Star weekend? Well, I
think the best way to do this for Yannis to
trade everybody on his bench Anthony Davis. That was great
and the NBA embraced this stuff. Doug Gottlieb and I
disagree on that. Just embrace all this player movement. As
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Steve Kerr said to soap Opera, one of the real
revenue stream creators in the NBA is all this soap
opera stuff. Colin right, Colin wrong again. Kyler Murray has
chosen the NFL over baseball. He's the spectacularly fun quarterback
for the Oklahoma Sooners, between Patrick Mahomes and Baker Mayfield,
big twelve quarterbacks being you know, success stories in the NFL.
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It's ended that narrative. The big twelve quarterbacks don't work.
And I think you had Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray's
a much better thrower than Lamar come into this league
and you know, kind of chop it up and tear
it up and leave the Ravens over the Steelers. So
I think between that momentum, I think Kyler Murray made
the right choice. I think he's gonna get drafted in
the first round. If I'm Jacksonville, I think Jacksonville's roster
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with a right quarterback, I think he would be a
completely game changing, dynamic player for them. He is remarkably
small when compared to even other smaller quarterbacks. But I
think the kid chose the right sport. One more Herd.
The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days
a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen
(29:37):
live or on demand whenever you like. My dog Buddy
is not disciplined enough to be in that because he
chases cats around the house all the tell we have
beautiful cats and he just he just is annoying. He
doesn't want to hurt him. He wants to play with
him all day. So you could have Buddy all trained
in the minute he saw a cat out of his
left eye, he'd fly around the corner. And you don't
think he could make him go around not undisciplined dog
(29:58):
Katino Mobley over a decade in the NBA Dog or
Cat guy. You know what, I grew up with cats.
I have a dog now named Boomer Golden Retriever. Yeah,
discipline the best. He's the best dog. Disciplined he is
he is. Unless if we leave him at the house,
you know he'll he'll probably just like Marcus Territory because
nobody walking well the net Boomers pretty cool. So what
(30:21):
do you make Lakers beat the Celtics, the world explodes
in glee, and then they go get hammered by the Sixers,
which is the reality of it to me. They're a
young team that needs Lebron in the court, and when
he's not, they're wildly inconsistent. What do you make of
them as a team. Listen, they're young, they and when
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you're young, I think people are a little more patient
with you. Now, when Lebron was out for those seventeen
games they went or whatever how many games they were
six and twelve or something like that. If you go,
if you win ten ten eleven of those were not
even talking about them, you know, if Lebron wasn't hurt
(31:03):
and Lebron was in, if you win ten eleven those games,
you're like in fourth place still. Again, I just think
that with all this chaos with those guys, those younger guys,
it's hard for them to play hard one hundred percent
every single day knowing something can happen, you know, behind
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the scenes. Oh, I think that they all see themselves
as totally expendable. Now. I think psychologically it matters, and
these kids are younger than ever. Kyle Kuzma is rare
most of these guys come right out of college after
a year and they're not ready for it. They're just
trying to figure the league out emotionally, and then your
scene is a pawn. I mean, I would say this.
You know the NBA is funny this way. Do you
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think the Lakers win a playoff series this year? Yes,
you know, I listen. It's like betting against Tom Brady
and Bellowship. I can't bet against Lebron James. So I
give Lebron James the odds of winning a playoff series.
I do, Okay, So they're gonna have to play either that.
You know, they're not gonna be a top three seas
so they're gonna have to play Houston, Golden Stain or
(32:10):
Oklahoma City, and I don't think they can beat those teams.
You're you're right, you're right, But those teams have to
beat Lebron James four times right in Houston. You're a
little banged up James. You make is extraordinary as you
are at the moment. It takes a toll on your
body when the playoffs happen. Not saying that you know
(32:31):
the first round you're not going to do well, But
I'm betting on Lebron James and whoever he's playing, he's
going to give him a run for their money. Whoever
he's playing, and you have Rondo with you, they know
how to win. And if those guys stay healthy, I'm
betting with those guys because they're winners. I want to
go to Russell Westbrook that he is shooting less and
they're winning more. I'm not into this triple double stuff.
(32:52):
When I'm in news double us, I'm not into those
stats which I think you can have a bad game
and have a triple double. I mean, if Lebron went ten,
ten and ten would be an awful game for Lebron
and they have a triple double. I don't care about it.
What I care about is Westbrook is listening, he's shooting
lest they're winning more. Here's my question, though that's fine
in the regular season, we get to the playoffs. I've
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watched Westbrook. Is it fair for me to say, Katino,
once we get to the playoffs, I don't see Westbrook
as being as giving as he is today. I agree,
because listen, what I've earned in life is I don't
pay attention to so much of what you say, but
(33:36):
what you do. It's a pattern. I'm listening to the
pattern right, I'm watching. I'm listening to the pattern that
you are now. I was speaking about this earlier. Russell
Westbrook is amazing, is an amazing athlete. Yes, I think
now is the eleventh year, ten to eleventh year. Russell
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has got to the point where it now is like
I don't really have anything individually to prove now and
I have to literally sacrifice my ego to win. Can
you do that? That's great now in the season, but
I need to see you win its finals and will
you be the old Russell or the new one? I
got a bet on a Lion's going to be a
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lion Russell's You're gonna be Russell unless you prove to
me wrong that you're going to defer to Paul George
in the playoffs. I saw him implode last two years
in the playoffs. Yeah, that's why. That's why Paul George
had a bad series last year against Utah. It was inconsistent,
He had no consistency, and he needs the ball more. Yeah,
I mean, I think at this point Paul is a
(34:39):
better two way player, right. I think that's not a
shout of Westbrook. He is. I think Paul is one
of the top three two way players in the NBA,
is true, and I think he's about the twelfth best player.
But he and Kawhi Leonard to me in Clay Thompson
of the best two way players in the NBA. That's true.
All right, that's true. What do you make of the
Celtics Kyrie Irving's hurt again? You had kind of an
interesting take on this. Um. There is this belief if
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the Boston Celtics are the guide to rebuilding. But this morning,
Kyrie Irving's hurt again, Gordon Hayward's not working, and Anthony
Davis I've been told last week they're not gonna be
a Celtic. Do you buy into the Celtics long term?
Kyrie got hurt again. I don't. Why not? I don't.
I think they reached a peak. Um, it's the weirdest thing.
(35:23):
It's the other day when they lost against the Lakers.
If you notice who's the best defender Boston Celtics, Marcus
Marcus Smart. He's not in the game. One foul, He's
not in the game. At the end of the game.
You have Gordon Hayward, in no disrespect to Gordon Haywood.
But you're not a stopper, So why why is Marcus
Smart not in? You had timeouts? Why is Marcus Smart
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not in the game. Kudos to the Lakers for winning
it right and coming back, but why is Marcus Smart
not in the game? That's one of them. So you
have this, do you have a team full of talent
that don't mesh well? Well, well, yesterday one of their
players came out and said, it's not fun here. We
feel I feel like we're individuals. That was one of
the Celtic players yesterday. And they think about that. He
(36:08):
said this yesterday. But prior to that, a week ago,
prior today, they were what the last twelve games ten?
They won ten and lost two. So for him to
say that right now, I don't know about that so
much as far as actually he is going to my
point with Marcus Smart. Now, Mars says it, guys are
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a little inconsistent, like it's not like last year. So
it's not you bring Gordon Hayward over, who Brad Stevens loves.
Not sure if the players do. Kyrie's his own dude.
He's in Alpha, but he's his own dude. What you're
basically saying, is the collection of talent on papers impressive?
But there are a five seed in the East today.
It's not mashing right. And see Brad Stevens loves Gordon Hayward.
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That's cool. Guess what. I loved my high school girlfriend too.
But we all grow. We all grow where don't we
Like you're still loving the person that was at Butler,
Like he's totally different and he doesn't fit well with
that team. I don't think he's so either. That seems faster,
more athletic. And yeah, you came off an injury and
I understand that and we want to give you time,
(37:09):
but you still don't fit well with those guys. Yeah,
I think even Celtic fans would acknowledge Gordon Hayward hasn't
been a great fit matters. Yeah, it does. The chemistry, Okay.
I think the Golden State Warriors in terms of stars,
do it better than anybody. Their coach deflects criticism. He's
(37:30):
media savvy. Steph Curry's like the world's greatest star teammate.
You're in a city in San Francisco where you know
Kevin Durant can go in and just score, drive home,
put it you know, put some music in the car
and the Mercedes is a good life. I think going
to the next they lose with Kevin, He's gonna take
all the heat and I don't think he's one of
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those guys built for that. I think Kevin's a sensitive guys.
I think he's super You've played with guys like that, Yeah, yeah,
like like you didn't deal with the social media. Kevin sensitive.
I think he can do a little hiding in Golden State.
I don't like to move to the next It's just
too much pressure. The organization is a little messed up,
(38:10):
right when it comes to the ownership. How they Yeah,
I know, lack of a better terms. Playing with Golden State,
when you have Stephren Curry as the most important player
to me on that team that makes that team run,
it's like Tom Brady. If I'm not whining and I'm
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not doing this, and I'm taking these cuts and I'm
doing X, Y and Z, everybody else should fall in line.
You have four guys on that team, not even counting
k d who whose IQ is super high from like
a point card perspective, so things are easier. You can
kind of defer, or you can be the leader, and
no one cares. If you go somewhere else and you
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got Golden State fans, you know, I mean, they're amazing.
Then you go to New York and it's a little
harder to live. The fans they're expecting greatness right away.
It's gonna be hard for you, Kevin, because you and
not in a bad way, but he is. He wears
his emotions on his sleepers say Aaron Rodgers, same exact way. Yeah,
(39:16):
they're not wrong with Aaron. But by the way, Kevin
and Aaron are single, don't have kids, so they go
home at night and they're on their device. Right. No,
I mean seriously, right, you go home, you got kids,
you got responsibilities, you got a wife. And I say
this all the time, is that I don't have time
to be on the angry bird all day. I can't be.
I can't, I don't, I don't. What did they say,
idle time is a devil's playground. Yeah, Like, if you
(39:37):
have so much time and something hurts you right away,
my daughter come over and give me a kiss and
I'm cool. My son come and actually throw the football
and I'm okay. A lot of these guys, they have
so much time they can just get on them voice
and it gets in their head for whatever reason, like
just let it go, you know, count to five, a
count to ten and let it go, a lot of
this stuff, but they just voice it. Great seeing you man,
(39:58):
Thanks for having me. Are you on speak for yourself today? Yeah?
That's good. You are the best dressed guests we have. Goulet,
you could take a thing or two from this guy.
Be like, if Gouley dressed like this every day for
the show Joy, wouldn't that be? Nobody wears a suit
better than well, I mean, Goulet's back there. You might
wear sweatpants, you know. Yeah, it's the only like from
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