July 30, 2020 • 44 mins
Colin comments on Patrick Mahomes not being ranked the top QB, LeBron James is driven-- not anti-social, there's no need to baby Zion Williamson, and the Astros are better off keeping their mouths shut.
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one for the damn fine Show today. Very good, very
good show. I'm not gonna lie. Joey Taylor is joining me. Joy,
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how are you? I am? I am the best I've
been in many months. We have NBA basketball today. We
have been walking through the desert with no water for
six months. Today we've come upon a lake, the oasis vegetables. Yes,
we will eat tonight. Let me start with this. The
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media doesn't have a lot of courage. They don't. They
just don't have a lot of courage. Everybody's got a
follow in line. That's why I don't have that many
media friends. Yeah, that's most of my friends are like
business friends. They're aggressive people, men, women, aggressive, not worried
about following in line. So yesterday the NFL Top one
hundred voted on players did not make Patrick Mahomes the
number one player in the NFL. I'm no problem with it.
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I'd probably put him there, but you know it's okay. Yeah,
Lamar Jackson finished number one, Russell Wilson two. Oh my god,
Patrick's four and the third best quarterback. So let me
ask you, did you watch the Super Bowl where Patrick
Mahomes was outplayed by Jimmy Garoppolo for three and a
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half quarters midway through the fourth quarter of the Super
Bowl With superior weapons and a superior veteran coach, Patrick
Mahomes had no touchdowns, two picks and should have had three,
and was outplayed outplayed by Jimmy Garoppolo. Did your television
not work? Did you watch the game that he trailed
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at home to Houston twenty four nothing in the playoffs,
or where he was shut out in the first half
the year before in the AFC Championship against Bill Belichick
and looked awful finished the game completing fifty percent of
his throws and trailed by four touchdowns entering at home
the fourth quarter. Or did you watch him get outplayed
by Jared Goff a couple of years ago. Patrick Mahomes
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is unbelievably talented, but he admitted, quote late this year unquote,
I learned how to read the defense. He's not without fault.
I'm gonna throw a number at you and you're gonna
be surprised. I'm gonna tell you this. He's not the
best athlete and the league at quarterback. Patrick Mahomes ran
a four eight forty. Lamar Jackson is twice twice the athlete.
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Lamar Jackson's the fastest player on his football team. Patrick
Mahomes may not run the fastest forty at quarterback for
the Chiefs. He's a four eight forty guy. He's not
as dynamic athletically as Lamar Jackson. He's not as experienced
or as elusive as Russell Wilson. Why Russell never gets hit?
He doesn't have the release of Aaron Rodgers, nor does
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he see the field like Tom Brady and probably Drew
Brees and Russell Wilson. He is not without fault. Do
you realize. Patrick mahomes fourth quarter passer rating last year
in the regular season was eighteenth. That is with Andy Reid,
Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, Mitchell Schwartz, Damian Williams. That is
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with an unbelievable, unparalleled, unrivaled schematic, Andy Reid weapon cast.
He was eighteenth. He was getting beat badly at home,
shut out by New England. Worked in the Super Bowl.
He was not great in the Super Bowl for the
first three and a half quarters. Now now, is he
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a great talent? Oh? Absolutely? Does he have the best arm?
Oh god absolutely? Is he the most fun to watch?
He and Lamar way up there. But I don't think
he's as strong as Wentz, not as big. I mean,
when I watched Cam Newton come into the league, I
was like, the hell is that? Oh my god, big
Ben Hatrick Mahomes is a slender kid who run a
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four to eight forty, who's got a baseball arm. Is
fun to watch, is kind of got a Magic Johnson
flair for the game, and I love him. But he
is not without fault. He admits this year I just
figured out how to read a defense. It's a little
late for that, but he's progressing I've said before, I
don't think he's scratching the surface, but I think we
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have an another level of Patrick Mahomes. I think he's
going to take it to another level. I remember when
I used to come back and criticize Aaron Rodgers. I
used to say, I don't think Aaron Rodgers is great.
He's not the leader of Tom Brady. I think he
throws the ball away too much. I don't think he
always is the best guy in the huddle. I can
remember saying that six seven years ago and getting nothing
but heat on that, and saying, I think Aaron is
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an unbelievable talent, but he's kind of He's six two
two fifteen. He's not big and strapping and strong. He
gets hurt, and sometimes he can be condescending, and he
has a weird thing where he doesn't have a lot
to come from behind wins and it's not always the
packer's fault, and not every teammate likes him. And I
think Aaron's a first ballot Hall of Famer. But got
five years ago, I got crap non stop. It wasn't
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until about two years ago when the media, even in
Green Bay started saying some of Aaron's problems are Aaron's fault.
Mahomes isn't a perfect player. I think there's a lot
of things Russell Wilson does better. I really do. I
think there's a lot of things Drew Brees does better
at the line of scrimmage. I think Lamar Jackson's a
way better athlete. Patrick Mahomes ran a four eight forty
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in high school. I run a four to seven five me.
I'm a radio idiot. Okay, So it's so Aaron. The
gap between Aaron Donald and the next best defensive player
in this league is the Grand Canyon. I mean, who's
the second best defensive lineman in the league. Fletcher Cox.
I don't even think he's close to Aaron Donald. And
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Fletcher Cox is a pro bowler and gonna be a
Hall of Famer. The gap between Mahomes and the other
quarterbacks based on multiple skill sets. It's not that great.
Some guys are better at stuff. And again, I can
like you, but can we at least acknowledge. Russell Wilson
is overcoming an antiquated offensive system, a bad on line,
and undrafted wide receivers no tight end. I mean, Russell
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Wilson is taking a lot of nonsense and getting to
the playoffs. Can we acknowledge that pat Patrick Mahomes has
the best his coach drives, Bill Belichick crazy, Andy Reads
a wizard, Travis Kelsey's the best tight end with George
Kittle in football, Tyreek Kills the fastest human that's ever
put on pads, and Brett Veach is one of the
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smartest drafting guys in the league. This idea that everybody's
got a follow in line. What I really loved about yesterday.
This is what I really loved about it that Patrick
Mahomes went to Twitter. He's very funny and he put
a pencil up there. I'm taking notes. I'm taking notes
on this. That's why I love Patrick Mahomes. That's why
I love him. He gets it, got a little chip
on his shoulder. Not that's the best thing that ever
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happened to Patrick Mahomes is the best thing that ever
happened to him. He's too young to be getting five
hundred million dollars and being the talk of the town.
This is a great day for Patrick Mahomes. He got
a chip on his shoulder. Hey, Patrick, you're the third
best quarterback in the NFL. Not third best player. You're
the third best quarterback in the NFL. That's what players think.
That is honestly jet fuel for Patrick Mahomes and why
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he'll win more Super Bowls and four more MVPs and
make everybody in Kansas City happy. All right, I got
this story. NBA's back tonight. Oh we have arrived at
a lake plentiful with fruit and vegetables. Looks like somebody's
looking for Click's True Hoop website or something. Henry Abbott,
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who I know and like. But what in God's name
is going on with Henry? He says, Lebron James. The
least told story in the NBA is Lebron's oppressive, overwhelming
and anti social competitiveness. It is ikey. It's the most
undertold story in the NBA. Abbott noted that James struggles
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to be around normally motivated, gets in patient with those
who don't work as hard, little tolerance for mistakes. In fact,
Henry at one point says this this is worth a chuckle.
Lebron's current teammate, Anthony Davis, may be softening him, since
he has a special affection of the big man. Wait
time out, I want Lebron to be more like Anthony
Davis the hell out of here. That's the last thing
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I want Lebron to be, is that soft. Yeah, I'm sorry, Henry,
I'm sorry, True Hoop magazine, website, whatever you are. We've
spent fifteen years comparing Lebron and MJ mostly doing a
poor job. We finally figured out their match. They're obsessive
because ninety nine percent of the players in the NBA
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are playing for a paycheck. Lebron's playing for immortality. So
was Kobe So's Michael so are the Great? So is
Elon Musk, so is Jeff Bezos, so is Bill Gates,
so is Steep Jobs. They're ruthless. They're relentless because they're
not doing it for a paycheck. Ninety nine percent of
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people in America are going to work for a paycheck
to be content, to get their kids through school. They
like their job, they don't live it. That's fine, But
for the truly gifted, it's different. Friend, and we should
never ask them to come down to us. They're not
demanding we go up to them. Lebron James is not
demanding that Alex Caruso will be six eight and tower
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in Tomahawk Duncan. He's not asking Alex Caruso to do
that or KCP, but he will not. He's sure as heck,
will not go down to your workout standards. Thank God.
Somebody with the Lakers is obsessive. Do you think their
front office is as good as the Clippers? I don't.
Do you think they're owners as rich as the Clippers?
I don't. Do you think they're rosters as good as
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the Clippers? I don't. Thank God, he's compulsive. Thank God,
somebody with the Lakers is. Somebody is focused and driven
and willful. Would I respect Michael Jordan Moore? Let me
ask you this as a parent, one of my greatest fears,
other than my kids running into traffic, one of my
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greatest fears is they will not live up to their potential.
I think my kids are really good. They're curious, they
got but they're smart. One of my biggest fears is
I'm on my deathbed and they took all that potential
and didn't do anything with it. You're a parent, doesn't
that worry? Ever? You just want the best for your kids.
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Use all your gifts that I didn't have. Would I
respect Michael Jordan Moore today? If he was less relentless,
less willful, and wouldn't have tapped every ounce of greatness
out of his potential. That's why we loved Kobe and
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why we love MJ. That's why we love Lebron because
you get so rarely a Tiger Woods or an Oprah
or an Elon Musk who are flawed, but they have
this massive intellectual capacity or athletic capacity or emotional capacity
and they just squeeze that damn towel. They get everything
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out of it, and you become an icon. Lebron doesn't
ask you to be as great as him, but he
should never lower his standards for me or you or
Alex Caruso. This article is nonsense. I want Lebron to
me more like Anthony Davis in what lifetime. I want
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everybody that has nearly as much talent as Lebron. Schoolteacher, scientist, engineer,
radio host, be relentless, be willful, be a pain in
the arts occasionally, not every day. What you want for
your kids is what the greats all through this country
give us. It's why we'll get through COVID, because we've
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got nine thousand people working on vaccines and they're brilliant,
the idea that I'm supposed to look at the greats
in this country, the Mark Cubans, the Obama's, and I'm
supposed to go, you know, if they can just slow
down a little for me, Nah, not remotely interested. Be
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talking about my kids and my fears as a dad
that they won't at least achieve some of their talent,
some of their capacity, or they won't reach at least
some of the heights. I think they could. We tend
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to and I could. I hope I'm not guilty of this.
We all baby our kids. There used to be something
called helicopter parents, where parents hover over their kids. Now
they call it bulldoze parents, where parents like clearer paths
so their kids have no problems. They call them bulldoze parents.
I saw it a lot in the Northeast. I saw
it a lot in the Northeast with prep schools. Parents
just bulldozing a pass so their kids have no struggles.
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Dad on the phone yelling at the principle how could
you give my child to be? It's bulldozing parents, so
you end up raising a bunch of weenies who aren't
used to like getting pushed back in life. You'll notice
most of the great quarterbacks in the NFL we talk
about this all the time, got told, no, got hit,
got hurt. Junior college, too short, too slow. You give
everybody a perfect childhood. It's it's rough. I'm not saying
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Zion Williamson had a perfect childood. That's not what I'm saying.
But I'm already hearing a lot of this. Let's slow
down on Zion. Let's protect Zion. This is we're asking
too much of Zion. Here's his coach, Alvin Gentry as
Zion debuts tonight, hopefully, talking about Zion going forward. I
think he's a very mature kid. You know, he's a
twenty year old kid, and I think a lot of
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times we forget about that, as we did with Lebron.
You know, you know, these guys are still kids. You know,
they're he you know, he does about all of the
nineteen and twenty year old people do. So I think
we've got to be a little bit careful about, you know,
and all the extra things on his shoulders. He's here
to play, he's here to have a good time. You know,
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hopefully he'll be healthy enough to play, you know, in
conditioning enough to play. But other than that, we should
we should treat him like a twenty year old. Oh stop,
you're the one coach who just compared him to Lebron.
You put him in the same sentence with Lebron, and
he's not going to be Lebron. He's not going to
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be that good. Zion can handle it. Kids today are
so much smarter, so much more self aware. There's so
many advantages with technology. Zion knows what he's doing. He
has more support than players did in the seventies and eighties.
Warren Buffett always talks about this. Every generation of kids
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has a better life and easier life and more support
than the previous generation. Nutritional advantages, Michael Jordan didn't have,
therapy advantages, psychology coaching advantages, and support personnel, personal coaching.
Zion could get on the phone today and get Adam Silver, Lebron, James,
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Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant, Mike Shashevsky on the phone. Within
five minutes, the NBA Commissioner, the best college basketball coach,
the Olympic coach, the best player in the game, the
greatest player ever, the second greatest player ever. He could
get all of him on the phone in five minutes.
On a cell phone, he could be shooting a basketball
with his left hand and talking to him with his
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right hand. Stop bulldozing the kids. He can handle it.
Zion's a smart kid. He was asked yesterday about the bubble.
You know what he said in three words, I wanna hoop.
I wanna hoop, Let me hoop. He can handle it.
Did you see how this kid handled duke when he
got hurt. Did you see how he handled it? He
handled like a forty five year old. I'm fifty. I
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had cereal for breakfast. I can't handle it. This kid
handled the Duke's situation definitely smartly, like a grown up.
Have we seen Patrick Mahomes Patrick m Maholmes could if
he didn't have his act together, could unravel tomorrow. He
goes to Twitter last night, A little clever thing. These
kids today, these athletes. I've been saying this now for
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a while. It is unbelievable how lucky we are as
sportscasters and fans find the bad guy, find the turd,
find the bad NBA guy. I mean, don't get me wrong,
the Lakers look like a reality show. They got the
goofiest set of guys in the league. They literally should
be a hard knocks NBA, but they're goofy. There's not
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a bad guy in the league. NFL's got some guys
you have to worry about. I'm not saying it's perfect,
but the stars J J. Watt, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson. Yeah,
I mean, they're like good kids. They got a fortune there.
Zion's gonna be fine. His coach should stop putting him
in a sentence with Lebron James. That's not fair because
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he's not gonna be Lebron. Good God, he's not gonna
be Lebron. We're not gonna see Lebron. But there's never
gonna be another Lebron. Like that's over. It's like Tiger
Woods for twelve years, Tiger Woods. Johnson's great Brooks Kepka,
you we're never gonna see Tiger again. He was He
wouldn't even a comet. He was a planet. It flew by.
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We had to sweet and change the gravity. It's like
mentioning him when Lebron is unfair, he can handle it.
This kid from day one Duke basketball shoe explodes. Nie
has heard. He has been a total A nineteen twenty
year old kid today is a thirty year old in
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the seventies and eighties. The coaching, the nutrition, the trainers,
the guidance, the financial support is so much better today.
Get Mike Schevski on, ask him what it was like
his first two years at Duke, and ask him what
he's created now. Those kids come out of Duke, they
are ready to roll, they are ready to go. They
got financial support, insurance, parental support, therapy, nutrition training. I mean,
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they got these kids. You don't think Kansas, Duke, Carolina.
Those kids come out of those programs and they miles
ahead of where kids seventies, eighties, even Michael Jordan saw
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Henry Abbitt writes a story. He said Lebron's anti social,
he's overly competitive. He Anthony Davis had softened him, and
my takeaways what's talk about? I want Lebron to be
more like Anthony Davis. I don't buy it. I don't
understand the criticism of Lebron. I don't buy this he's
obsessive stuff. I think he's relentless, like the all time greats,
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like Elon Musk, like Michael Jordan. What are you? What
are your takeaway on it? Yeah? And look I know
himry well. He's a former editor of the NBA at
ESPN dot com and a great guy, great reporter. But
I agree, and first of all, Lebron is far from antisocial.
I mean, Lebron is one of the most gregarious people
that you'll meet, particularly in the NBA, so that that
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was wrong. I do think he's obsessed with greatness, which
is which is what all the greats are. Michael Jordan
obviously was obsessed with greatness. And sometimes when you're obsessed
with greatness, it rubs people that don't mind being mediocre
or okay or very nonchalant about whinny, it rubs them
the wrong way. We saw it with Jordan, Magic Johnson,
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for all the smiling and all that he was obsessed
with greatness, same with Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas. That's how
the greats are, so there's no issue there. And I
even thought, like the story talked about how because of
Lebron's personality that some guys haven't liked playing with him
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and things like that. I think it's more about the
fact that when Lebron plays, he everything goes through him.
I think that is what has kind of pushed more
players away than just Lebron's obsessiveness and control over everything.
Now I'm not saying it doesn't rub some guys the
wrong way, but I think the bigger challenge is that
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everything goes through Lebron. When he's on the team. He
becomes the system. He makes all the plays, and that
can be challenging when you're a great player. Even if
Kyrie Irving, who's a point guard, had to back off
and let Lebron handle the ball most of the time, Yeah,
which has never bothered being but I do believe it's
a reality to play with Lebron James d Wade, Kyrie Irving,
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it's Lebron's team now Lakers Clippers tonight does it matter
more for one of the teams? And why Colin as
excited as I am about this game just because it's
the return of basketball. What makes me even more excited
are the dynamics. Now what has happened in the bubble.
The Lakers are focused, they are zero. Then Lebron James
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looked like he hasn't missed the beat. He looks like
he's in great shape, and that team is serious, and
the Clippers are the opposite. They got guys going in
and out of the bubble, guys you know, going to
to nightclubs, and Kawhi doesn't look good in the first
three exhibition games. So my point is this, if the
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Lakers can't beat the Clippers tonight under these circumstances, They've
got a d They've got Lebron, they're healthy, and the
Clippers are without their third and fourth best players Lou
Williams and Montres Harold and maybe their fifth best player,
Patrick Beverley. And if they still beat the Lakers tonight,
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then I don't know how you can think the Lakers
are gonna beat the Clippers in the playoffs if they
lose tonight. Now I think the Lakers will win, but
if they lose, that'll be three losses in four games
this season. Twice, the Clippers will have been without their
full complement of players, and now they're just kind of
lollygagging through the bubble so far, and they still could
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beat the Lakers. This is, I would say, virtually a
must win for the Lakers, assuming they play Lebrond thirty
plus minutes and try to win. So Charles Barkley came
on the other day and he said, if the Lakers win,
it's up to Anthony Davis. I think I don't see
the Lakers as a championship team. I think they're gonna
be really good because of Lebron and a D. But
I don't like their bench. I think it's an odd
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mix of guys way past their prime. I don't trust
Kyle Kuzman in a big spot. Alex Caruso is limited.
I've never seen him in this moment. I don't think
the Lakers are a championship team. But your thoughts about
how valuable a D is. Is he more valuable than Lebron.
I think the Lakers are the second best team in
the league. I think the Clippers are the best. So
I think if somehow, if the Clippers get upset by
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someone else, or if the Lakers get past them. I
think they'll win it. I think they'll beat Milwaukee or
whoever were to come out of the East. Look, Lebron
is clearly the Lakers most valuable player. I mean he
makes everything go. But I do agree with Charles in
that Ad will be the key. Doesn't mean he'll be
the finals MVP necessarily, but he will have to be
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dominant against the Clippers because Barkley's right. With Kawhi Leonard
and Paul George, they match up well with Lebron. We
saw in the first two meetings of the regular season,
George wasn't even playing and Lebron was not able to
take over the fourth quarters because the Clippers have great
perimeter defense. That means Anthony Davis, who the Clippers have
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no matchup for, is going to have to be dominant
in the fourth and Colin That's one thing I'm gonna
be watching for tonight. In their three games, he's averaged
twenty six points. So that can fool you and make
you think, oh wow, Ads had his way with the Clippers,
but no, He's had eight points in the fourth quarters
of the three games combined. That's twenty one minutes. He's
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got to be much better. I've been saying it all year.
The Lakers need to get a d used to being
a go to guy in the fourth quarter. So Alvin
Gentry says, oh, come on, slow down on Zion. We're
putting too much weight in his shoulders. It's like Lebron,
it might take his Zion has shown us since Duke
he's a big boy. He can handle this. He's got
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maturity beyond his years. Nobody thinks he's gonna win the title.
That Alvin's Alvin's bulldoze, pairenting him. He's clearing all the
runway for him. It's like Alvin, chill out, well, this
is this is what Alvin doesn't. Alvin's a great guy.
Any buying the NBA tell you that. But he under
what is it? Under promises and over delivered. That's what
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he sets the tone. He always downplays everything. So, um,
I look, I think right now, and as you said earlier,
you're absolutely right. First of all, why are you putting
him in the same sentence as Lebron if you want
to downplay expectations. I think right now, Colin, everything is great.
All we expect from Zion is big time scoring and excitement.
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That's it. Some dunk, some excitement, some hype, and you
give us twenty plus points. He can do that. The
challenge for Zion will come in a few years, perhaps
if it becomes the challenge is when people start expecting
him to win. Daddy. Right now, he's got two, three years,
four years maybe of a honeymoon period. Yeah, where we
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just want the hype, we just want the highlights. Twenty
five points and you're good. You're an All Star every year.
Once we start saying, okay, can you win, that is
when the challenge will become for Zion, because I'm not
convinced yet that his greatness and he's gonna be a
star will lead to winning though, because you know, can
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he rebound the ball at big numbers? We'll see he's
only give me a seven a game right now, and
they're winning. They're ten to nine with him, Colin. They
were eleven and five in the sixteen games before Zion
repoot or Zion returned, so they were already playing well.
The good thing for him is he's with a really
good young team. You got lines on, you got Ingram,
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you got Drew Holliday, so they should be in a
position to win in a few years. I'm not sure
if he'll be the driving force, the number one guy,
but you'll put up big numbers and they should be
a pretty good team. So Nick Wright and I are
going to be at my house tonight having some tequila,
watching it and going on Instagram, and so you'll want
to check that out, Bruce Hard, because there'll be a
lot of basketball knowledge being dropped on IG live. I've
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never done Instagram live. Tonight, I'm doing it with Nick
Wright and tequila. That sounds exciting. It kind of exciting.
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Dodgers had the twenty seventeen World Series potentially taken from
them because the Houston Astros cheated. They had a spreadsheet
called Codebreaker in which they stole signed and then relayed
them to hitters. That's sort of a no no. They
lost draft picks, but they never had a game taken
from them yet. Major League Baseball suspended four eight games,
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meaning the Dodgers will probably lose once or twice more
because Joe Kelly pitcher has been suspended for throwing at
and over the head of Houston Astro batters. Lance McCullers
is a fine player pitcher for the Astros, and he
did not like what Joe Kelly did. Joe Kelly threw
a ball behind Bregman's head on three and now on purpose.
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Not only did he, you know, take it upon himself
to you know, I guess send a message, but he
wasn't even part of the team during that season. You know,
we knew coming into the game that he likes to
go off script. So it is what it is. It
was done unprofessionally. What do you get after your punched out?
Carey was unprofessional? Running into the dugout was unprofessional. So
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it is what it is. We're here to play baseball.
We just want to win, so you know that's it.
Let's deconstruct some of those comments. Joe Kelly did it
on purpose? Did you not cheat on purpose? Joe Kelly
was unprofessional. Rigging the twenty seventeen World Series wasn't unprofessional.
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All we're all we're here to do is win. No
in twenty seventeen. That's not all you were there to do.
You were there to rig the sport. Stop talking, Lance,
Stop talking. Baseball and other sports don't have this. Baseball
polices itself. Baseball doesn't have a clock. Other sports have
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a clock. Baseball doesn't. Other sports have a salary cap,
all of them. Baseball doesn't. Baseball has a lot of
things unwritten rules. Other sports don't. Baseball's unique. And baseball
also has a system in which they police themselves. And
if you cheat, you will have a small, hard baseball
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thrown at you. Colony thrown his head. He's a professional pitcher.
He knew where it was going. These are pro athletes.
They can move out of the way. Find me the
litany of players hitting the head boinked by a baseball
who never played again. It's short When Astro supporters and
players and fans and coaches chuck about Joe Kelly's intent.
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He threw it a guy. Your intent was to rig
the sport, I'm gonna go with that's worse. And baseball
never really punished you. Draft picks fired your gm oh
talk about a slap on the wrist. So baseball didn't
take away any games from you. So Joe Kelly is
doing what baseball pitchers and players do. And by the way,
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it is allowed because I've seen it a thousand times.
John Smoltz came on our show Hall of Famer and said, yeah,
occasionally I was asked to throw it. Guys, all right,
you throw a little high, Well what I only get
a hitch on the ankles? You rig the World Series
and I get a throw right at your butt. That's it.
You weren't limited, Why am I? I have no problem.
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When you work at a company, you have to know
what you can get away within what you can. In football,
if you jump offsides. This is why a lot of
edge rushers join. I talked about this yesterday. This is
why they guess. They guess, they get to five year penalty.
This is why you see two or three times a
game a great edge rusher. He is guessing, he is
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looking at that ball, he is moving off side because
it's not much of a penalty. In the NBA. Occasionally,
to send a message second quarter, you do a hard foul,
guy gets a couple free throws. That's why guys occasionally
hard foul in baseball if you cheat or stay at
a home run like it or not, there will be repercussions,
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and that ball's a weapon, and it hurts, and these
guys throw ninety eight and you'll get one in the ribs.
Maybe sail it high. Joe Kelly can occasionally be wild.
He knows, he knows where the ball's going. Nobody got hit,
nobody got hurt. But baseball is absolutely hurt by what
the Astros did. I think repercussions are okay, you stole
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something from us. Baseball didn't make it punitive. This time.
We took it into our own hands a little, a
little fine, little suspension. I'm not saying life should be
a prison yard, right, That's not what I'm saying here.
But throwing the ball at a guy throwing behind him
eight games seems a little stiff to me. This is baseball.
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In football, you get a five yard penalty. In baseball,
you get a ninety eight mile an hour a heater
to the ribs. Don't cheat, that's a U problem, Houston,
and stop talking, Lance mc colors intent, sh don't want
to hear it. On purpose, not interested. All we're here
is to win. You get a spreadsheet called Codebreaker. Be
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sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays and
noon Eastern Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and
the iHeart Radio app. So tonight, NBA's back. I do
not think the Lakers are a championship team. I think
they're just asking too much of Lebron. I don't like
the bench. Kyle Kuzma's not a legitimate three. You don't
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know what you're getting Kuzma twenty six one night, zero
the next, thirty six one night for the next. He
did this all regular season. It's who he is. He
loses confidence and I don't think Lebron trusts him. And
I think Anthony Davis is somebody that's I've never seen
an alpha dog. I've never seen it. He's just talented,
and I think in the NBA, in the playoffs, two
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things matter, talent and leadership, and he's just talented. Charles Barkley,
though disagrees, he thinks Lakers are a championship team. I've
always said this. I love Lebron everything about him, but
he's gonna come down to Anthony Davis because you think
about this, Lebron is gonna have his hands full with
Paul George Kay offensively and defensibly so at his age
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that's a lot to ask to handle those two guys.
Nobody in the NBA can match up with Anthony Davis.
To me, he's gonna be the guy who's gonna dictate
whether the Lakers win the championship or not. And I
think if that's the case, it's a not. I've never
seen him be a dog. I've never seen him be
a leader. I've never seen him bark at a player.
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When KG and Rondo were in Boston, they would they
would bark at Doc Rivers, forget, forget teammates and opponents
Miami Lebron Wade Bosh barking at Mario Chalmers. Great teams
are verbal and they bark and they demand, and they
got dogs. Anthony Davis is simply talented. I've never seen it.
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All the Anthony Davis fans go, oh, the numbers, numbers, numbers.
He had those numbers in New Orleans they won a
single playoffs series. I know he gets numbers. The playoffs
aren't about numbers. The playoffs are about leadership because these
games are close, and the better coaches and the better
stars and the better I've seen Bird yell at people.
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I've seen MJ. I've seen Magic I've seen Kobe, I've
seen Lebron, I've seen d Wade, I've seen Kevin Durant,
Barkett guys, I've seen Draymond Barkett guys. Never seen Anthony
Davis do it? I want to see it. Otherwise you're
just talented. I'm over talented. The world's full of talented people.
Doesn't have many leaders. World's got talent everywhere. NBA's got
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talent everywhere. How many leaders are there? Five eight seven,
not a lot of leaders. So if it's coming down
to Anthony Davis, even on those Pelican teams, remember when
they won that playoff series against Portland. The leader, the
leader in that series with Drew Holiday in Rondo, That's
what everybody talked about. They're like, God, Drew Holliday just
took the series over. Anthony was just talented. And I
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don't think talent wins it alone. I think Toronto won
the championship last year. They got some breaks with health,
but they had great leaders on the team. They had
veteran players, they had a coach that people believed in,
they had Kawhi Leonard. There was leadership all over that
locker room. That Warriors team wasn't just talent. Steph Curry
and Kevin Durant, Draymond Green have real leadership qualities. Lebron
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d Way, you go last twenty five years in the NBA,
you go look at that Dallas team that shocked everybody.
There was leadership there, Rick Carlyle. It was a veteran
NBA team in dirt. Nabisca is a bunch of old guys.
They weren't the most athletic, they had leadership. San Antonio's
dynasty is about leadership, not just talent. So if Anthony
Davis is the reason you're gonna win, a guy, get
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me more than stats. Gott to bark at guys, Gotta
get after guys, Gotta hold guys accountable. Leadership's hard talent.
You wouldn't be in the league if you didn't have it.
NFL came out yesterday nfl dot Com Top one hundred
players voted on by the players. A lot of its nonsense,
but they're you know, they're mostly accurate. Number one, Lamar Jackson, two,
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Russell Wilson, three, Aaron Donald, Paul Patrick Mahomes number four,
And I think that's I was happiest about. And you
know what it's going to be. The players now are
finally acknowledging Russell Wilson's great battle lines, below average tight ends,
seventh round running back anequated offensive system. I was talking
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to a former NFL quarterback last night, a guy I've
never brought on this show before, really smart, and he said,
Russell Wilson is the doing more with less quarterback in
the league. That's not to say he's without flaws, but
if you look at Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes, they
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got the coach and the system and the old line
and the weapons and the running backs, and Russell does not.
This is finally players. By the way, last year, Russell
Wilson was ridiculously twenty fifth in this This is players going, Oh,
we get it, and that's okay. One of the things
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Bill Maher's a commentator on HBO, and he said this
for years and years with politics, stop yelling and screaming
because everybody doesn't get everything. At the same time, twelve
years ago, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were opposed to
gay marriage. It was a bad take, But you can't
demand growth and perfection. If we're going to grow, then
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we've made mistakes and we've been on the wrong side
of history and wrong side of humanity, and so players
for a long time they just didn't get Russell Wilson
and maybe a little smaller. He didn't have the mahomes arm,
you know, the system over there as it was very
Marshawn Lynch and defense and the defense had a nickname.
And Pete Carroll's a legend. And but if players now
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are acknowledging, all right, guy, they have him second best
player in the league. That's this is where he should be,
top three player in the league. I've said I think
he's the best football player in the world. I don't
necessarily think he's the best quarterback talent. I think Maholmes
is currently the best quarterback talent in the NFL. I
could argue Aaron Rodgers is the second best quarterback town
Lamar is probably the greatest athlete and getting better at
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the quarterback stuff. But Russell, to me, is the best
football player in the league if you combine playmaking, toughness, leadership,
IQ self awareness elevating others. World's best football player right there.
And by the way, I've had I used to say
this about Ladanian Tomlinson when he played for the Chargers.
I thought he was the best football player in the world.
He never fumbled, he could catch, he could block, he
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could run. He was a leader, he'd never got in trouble.
He made everybody better around him. I thought Ladanian Tomlinson
for about five years, was the world's best football player.
I'm not saying most valuable, but literally did everything well.
I think Aaron Donald right now is probably the second
best football player in the world, and Russell Wilson won
Aaron Donald two. The gap between Aaron Donald and the
second best defensive player in the league, it's absurd. Aaron
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Donald's graded everything pass, rush, double team against the run.
Leadership never gets hurt, has to be schemed. So it's
nice the players finally got it. Took him a while.
I get it. By the way, I started the show
today talking about there's an article out there criticizing Lebron
for being antisocial. True Hoop went out and say, you
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know he's antisocial. He's overly obsessive, which I don't even
know what that means. I mean, you're obsessive or and
I don't know what over what's the line of obsessive.
But I saw a story in May and I just
I wrote, sometimes the media wears me out. Most people
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in the media are not aspirational. I mean, if you
wrote two columns a week and that's all you do,
it's a nice lifestyle. You go to games, get free hotdogs,
a couple of columns a week. You're not trying to
change the world. But don't criticize people like Michael Jordan
and Elon Musk who are trying to change the world.
So Slate, which is kind of everybody's a victim website,
they wrote an article about Michael Jordan and the and
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the headline was, is there anything more to Michael Jordan
than basketball? If this documentary is the final word in
his legacy? The answer is apparently not. Oh good, hell,
he had an incredible relationship with his mother, great relationship
with his wife, close to his kids. He has an
incredibly tight circle of friends, same guys for twenty five years.
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He's got a hobby golf, loves it. If that and oh,
by the way, his profession, he's the greatest in the
world at it, not just basketball at pail. If that's
not a full life from some sportswriter for Slate, what's
your life look like? The documentary was a journey through
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the nineteen ninety eight season when the general manager said,
we're firing Phil Jackson. Regardless, that's what the documentary was about.
It was about a season of Michael Jordan. They sprinkled
in his family, they sprinkled in parts and elements of
his life, but his wife did not appear in it.
Michael probably didn't want his wife in it. He probably
don't want his kids in it. You know, a lot
of people in my business don't put their kids on
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Twitter or social media. Don't want their kids out there.
The idea that Michael Jordan has this shallow life, Oh
my god, he sleeps with a basketball. What a ship
he's got. If I know somebody and they have a
great relationship with their parents and a great relationship with
their kids, and they've had professional success and a good hobby,
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I'm out. That's a great life, parents, kids, tight friends,
good career, and yet even have a hobby. Everybody should
have a hobby. Everybody should have a good hobby. That's
not a complete life like the media is. You know
what can most of the media aren't aspirational. They're right there.
Two columns, Get a free hot dog, at a game
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and go home. That's what your life is. You just
don't get. You don't get those like Michael and Lebron.
And we have politicians in this country. They're they're immortals.
They want to be. They see they can change the world,
not just change a comma on a column. Michael doesn't
have a life. I mean people are. It's just it's incredible,
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the gall of it. If that's not having a life,
I would like to sign up. Yeah, can I have
Michael Jordan's lousy life, great relationship with his mom, his kids,
He's had to say. Michael's had the same group of
about six guys he runs with for twenty years. That's
that's the way to do it. Also, being obsessed with
what you're great at is not a bad thing. Yeah,
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Like if I if I was obsessed, if I was
obsessed about like singing, and I have no I can't sing,
I have no ability, I can't carry a single tune. Yeah. Actually,
I think we all probably know someone like that who's
obsessed with something they like but they are not particularly
talented at. It's called American idol. People spend twenty years
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and like at one point Simon Calligo's Your grandma told
you could sing. I'm here to tell you you can't.
That's sad being obsts of something you're not good at.
If I was obsessed with a golf it'd be pathetic.
I'm losing nine golf balls around. That would be fetic
being obsessed with basketball. If you're Michael, why not
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one for the damn fine Show today. Very good, very
good show. I'm not gonna lie. Joey Taylor is joining me. Joy,
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how are you? I am? I am the best I've
been in many months. We have NBA basketball today. We
have been walking through the desert with no water for
six months. Today we've come upon a lake, the oasis vegetables. Yes,
we will eat tonight. Let me start with this. The
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media doesn't have a lot of courage. They don't. They
just don't have a lot of courage. Everybody's got a
follow in line. That's why I don't have that many
media friends. Yeah, that's most of my friends are like
business friends. They're aggressive people, men, women, aggressive, not worried
about following in line. So yesterday the NFL Top one
hundred voted on players did not make Patrick Mahomes the
number one player in the NFL. I'm no problem with it.
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I'd probably put him there, but you know it's okay. Yeah,
Lamar Jackson finished number one, Russell Wilson two. Oh my god,
Patrick's four and the third best quarterback. So let me
ask you, did you watch the Super Bowl where Patrick
Mahomes was outplayed by Jimmy Garoppolo for three and a
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half quarters midway through the fourth quarter of the Super
Bowl With superior weapons and a superior veteran coach, Patrick
Mahomes had no touchdowns, two picks and should have had three,
and was outplayed outplayed by Jimmy Garoppolo. Did your television
not work? Did you watch the game that he trailed
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at home to Houston twenty four nothing in the playoffs,
or where he was shut out in the first half
the year before in the AFC Championship against Bill Belichick
and looked awful finished the game completing fifty percent of
his throws and trailed by four touchdowns entering at home
the fourth quarter. Or did you watch him get outplayed
by Jared Goff a couple of years ago. Patrick Mahomes
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is unbelievably talented, but he admitted, quote late this year unquote,
I learned how to read the defense. He's not without fault.
I'm gonna throw a number at you and you're gonna
be surprised. I'm gonna tell you this. He's not the
best athlete and the league at quarterback. Patrick Mahomes ran
a four eight forty. Lamar Jackson is twice twice the athlete.
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Lamar Jackson's the fastest player on his football team. Patrick
Mahomes may not run the fastest forty at quarterback for
the Chiefs. He's a four eight forty guy. He's not
as dynamic athletically as Lamar Jackson. He's not as experienced
or as elusive as Russell Wilson. Why Russell never gets hit?
He doesn't have the release of Aaron Rodgers, nor does
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he see the field like Tom Brady and probably Drew
Brees and Russell Wilson. He is not without fault. Do
you realize. Patrick mahomes fourth quarter passer rating last year
in the regular season was eighteenth. That is with Andy Reid,
Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, Mitchell Schwartz, Damian Williams. That is
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with an unbelievable, unparalleled, unrivaled schematic, Andy Reid weapon cast.
He was eighteenth. He was getting beat badly at home,
shut out by New England. Worked in the Super Bowl.
He was not great in the Super Bowl for the
first three and a half quarters. Now now, is he
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a great talent? Oh? Absolutely? Does he have the best arm?
Oh god absolutely? Is he the most fun to watch?
He and Lamar way up there. But I don't think
he's as strong as Wentz, not as big. I mean,
when I watched Cam Newton come into the league, I
was like, the hell is that? Oh my god, big
Ben Hatrick Mahomes is a slender kid who run a
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four to eight forty, who's got a baseball arm. Is
fun to watch, is kind of got a Magic Johnson
flair for the game, and I love him. But he
is not without fault. He admits this year I just
figured out how to read a defense. It's a little
late for that, but he's progressing I've said before, I
don't think he's scratching the surface, but I think we
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have an another level of Patrick Mahomes. I think he's
going to take it to another level. I remember when
I used to come back and criticize Aaron Rodgers. I
used to say, I don't think Aaron Rodgers is great.
He's not the leader of Tom Brady. I think he
throws the ball away too much. I don't think he
always is the best guy in the huddle. I can
remember saying that six seven years ago and getting nothing
but heat on that, and saying, I think Aaron is
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an unbelievable talent, but he's kind of He's six two
two fifteen. He's not big and strapping and strong. He
gets hurt, and sometimes he can be condescending, and he
has a weird thing where he doesn't have a lot
to come from behind wins and it's not always the
packer's fault, and not every teammate likes him. And I
think Aaron's a first ballot Hall of Famer. But got
five years ago, I got crap non stop. It wasn't
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until about two years ago when the media, even in
Green Bay started saying some of Aaron's problems are Aaron's fault.
Mahomes isn't a perfect player. I think there's a lot
of things Russell Wilson does better. I really do. I
think there's a lot of things Drew Brees does better
at the line of scrimmage. I think Lamar Jackson's a
way better athlete. Patrick Mahomes ran a four eight forty
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in high school. I run a four to seven five me.
I'm a radio idiot. Okay, So it's so Aaron. The
gap between Aaron Donald and the next best defensive player
in this league is the Grand Canyon. I mean, who's
the second best defensive lineman in the league. Fletcher Cox.
I don't even think he's close to Aaron Donald. And
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Fletcher Cox is a pro bowler and gonna be a
Hall of Famer. The gap between Mahomes and the other
quarterbacks based on multiple skill sets. It's not that great.
Some guys are better at stuff. And again, I can
like you, but can we at least acknowledge. Russell Wilson
is overcoming an antiquated offensive system, a bad on line,
and undrafted wide receivers no tight end. I mean, Russell
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Wilson is taking a lot of nonsense and getting to
the playoffs. Can we acknowledge that pat Patrick Mahomes has
the best his coach drives, Bill Belichick crazy, Andy Reads
a wizard, Travis Kelsey's the best tight end with George
Kittle in football, Tyreek Kills the fastest human that's ever
put on pads, and Brett Veach is one of the
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smartest drafting guys in the league. This idea that everybody's
got a follow in line. What I really loved about yesterday.
This is what I really loved about it that Patrick
Mahomes went to Twitter. He's very funny and he put
a pencil up there. I'm taking notes. I'm taking notes
on this. That's why I love Patrick Mahomes. That's why
I love him. He gets it, got a little chip
on his shoulder. Not that's the best thing that ever
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happened to Patrick Mahomes is the best thing that ever
happened to him. He's too young to be getting five
hundred million dollars and being the talk of the town.
This is a great day for Patrick Mahomes. He got
a chip on his shoulder. Hey, Patrick, you're the third
best quarterback in the NFL. Not third best player. You're
the third best quarterback in the NFL. That's what players think.
That is honestly jet fuel for Patrick Mahomes and why
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he'll win more Super Bowls and four more MVPs and
make everybody in Kansas City happy. All right, I got
this story. NBA's back tonight. Oh we have arrived at
a lake plentiful with fruit and vegetables. Looks like somebody's
looking for Click's True Hoop website or something. Henry Abbott,
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who I know and like. But what in God's name
is going on with Henry? He says, Lebron James. The
least told story in the NBA is Lebron's oppressive, overwhelming
and anti social competitiveness. It is ikey. It's the most
undertold story in the NBA. Abbott noted that James struggles
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to be around normally motivated, gets in patient with those
who don't work as hard, little tolerance for mistakes. In fact,
Henry at one point says this this is worth a chuckle.
Lebron's current teammate, Anthony Davis, may be softening him, since
he has a special affection of the big man. Wait
time out, I want Lebron to be more like Anthony
Davis the hell out of here. That's the last thing
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I want Lebron to be, is that soft. Yeah, I'm sorry, Henry,
I'm sorry, True Hoop magazine, website, whatever you are. We've
spent fifteen years comparing Lebron and MJ mostly doing a
poor job. We finally figured out their match. They're obsessive
because ninety nine percent of the players in the NBA
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are playing for a paycheck. Lebron's playing for immortality. So
was Kobe So's Michael so are the Great? So is
Elon Musk, so is Jeff Bezos, so is Bill Gates,
so is Steep Jobs. They're ruthless. They're relentless because they're
not doing it for a paycheck. Ninety nine percent of
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people in America are going to work for a paycheck
to be content, to get their kids through school. They
like their job, they don't live it. That's fine, But
for the truly gifted, it's different. Friend, and we should
never ask them to come down to us. They're not
demanding we go up to them. Lebron James is not
demanding that Alex Caruso will be six eight and tower
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in Tomahawk Duncan. He's not asking Alex Caruso to do
that or KCP, but he will not. He's sure as heck,
will not go down to your workout standards. Thank God.
Somebody with the Lakers is obsessive. Do you think their
front office is as good as the Clippers? I don't.
Do you think they're owners as rich as the Clippers?
I don't. Do you think they're rosters as good as
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the Clippers? I don't. Thank God, he's compulsive. Thank God,
somebody with the Lakers is. Somebody is focused and driven
and willful. Would I respect Michael Jordan Moore? Let me
ask you this as a parent, one of my greatest fears,
other than my kids running into traffic, one of my
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greatest fears is they will not live up to their potential.
I think my kids are really good. They're curious, they
got but they're smart. One of my biggest fears is
I'm on my deathbed and they took all that potential
and didn't do anything with it. You're a parent, doesn't
that worry? Ever? You just want the best for your kids.
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Use all your gifts that I didn't have. Would I
respect Michael Jordan Moore today? If he was less relentless,
less willful, and wouldn't have tapped every ounce of greatness
out of his potential. That's why we loved Kobe and
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why we love MJ. That's why we love Lebron because
you get so rarely a Tiger Woods or an Oprah
or an Elon Musk who are flawed, but they have
this massive intellectual capacity or athletic capacity or emotional capacity
and they just squeeze that damn towel. They get everything
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out of it, and you become an icon. Lebron doesn't
ask you to be as great as him, but he
should never lower his standards for me or you or
Alex Caruso. This article is nonsense. I want Lebron to
me more like Anthony Davis in what lifetime. I want
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everybody that has nearly as much talent as Lebron. Schoolteacher, scientist, engineer,
radio host, be relentless, be willful, be a pain in
the arts occasionally, not every day. What you want for
your kids is what the greats all through this country
give us. It's why we'll get through COVID, because we've
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got nine thousand people working on vaccines and they're brilliant,
the idea that I'm supposed to look at the greats
in this country, the Mark Cubans, the Obama's, and I'm
supposed to go, you know, if they can just slow
down a little for me, Nah, not remotely interested. Be
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sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and
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one and the iHeart Radio app. And I was just
talking about my kids and my fears as a dad
that they won't at least achieve some of their talent,
some of their capacity, or they won't reach at least
some of the heights. I think they could. We tend
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to and I could. I hope I'm not guilty of this.
We all baby our kids. There used to be something
called helicopter parents, where parents hover over their kids. Now
they call it bulldoze parents, where parents like clearer paths
so their kids have no problems. They call them bulldoze parents.
I saw it a lot in the Northeast. I saw
it a lot in the Northeast with prep schools. Parents
just bulldozing a pass so their kids have no struggles.
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Dad on the phone yelling at the principle how could
you give my child to be? It's bulldozing parents, so
you end up raising a bunch of weenies who aren't
used to like getting pushed back in life. You'll notice
most of the great quarterbacks in the NFL we talk
about this all the time, got told, no, got hit,
got hurt. Junior college, too short, too slow. You give
everybody a perfect childhood. It's it's rough. I'm not saying
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Zion Williamson had a perfect childood. That's not what I'm saying.
But I'm already hearing a lot of this. Let's slow
down on Zion. Let's protect Zion. This is we're asking
too much of Zion. Here's his coach, Alvin Gentry as
Zion debuts tonight, hopefully, talking about Zion going forward. I
think he's a very mature kid. You know, he's a
twenty year old kid, and I think a lot of
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times we forget about that, as we did with Lebron.
You know, you know, these guys are still kids. You know,
they're he you know, he does about all of the
nineteen and twenty year old people do. So I think
we've got to be a little bit careful about, you know,
and all the extra things on his shoulders. He's here
to play, he's here to have a good time. You know,
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hopefully he'll be healthy enough to play, you know, in
conditioning enough to play. But other than that, we should
we should treat him like a twenty year old. Oh stop,
you're the one coach who just compared him to Lebron.
You put him in the same sentence with Lebron, and
he's not going to be Lebron. He's not going to
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be that good. Zion can handle it. Kids today are
so much smarter, so much more self aware. There's so
many advantages with technology. Zion knows what he's doing. He
has more support than players did in the seventies and eighties.
Warren Buffett always talks about this. Every generation of kids
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has a better life and easier life and more support
than the previous generation. Nutritional advantages, Michael Jordan didn't have,
therapy advantages, psychology coaching advantages, and support personnel, personal coaching.
Zion could get on the phone today and get Adam Silver, Lebron, James,
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Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant, Mike Shashevsky on the phone. Within
five minutes, the NBA Commissioner, the best college basketball coach,
the Olympic coach, the best player in the game, the
greatest player ever, the second greatest player ever. He could
get all of him on the phone in five minutes.
On a cell phone, he could be shooting a basketball
with his left hand and talking to him with his
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right hand. Stop bulldozing the kids. He can handle it.
Zion's a smart kid. He was asked yesterday about the bubble.
You know what he said in three words, I wanna hoop.
I wanna hoop, Let me hoop. He can handle it.
Did you see how this kid handled duke when he
got hurt. Did you see how he handled it? He
handled like a forty five year old. I'm fifty. I
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had cereal for breakfast. I can't handle it. This kid
handled the Duke's situation definitely smartly, like a grown up.
Have we seen Patrick Mahomes Patrick m Maholmes could if
he didn't have his act together, could unravel tomorrow. He
goes to Twitter last night, A little clever thing. These
kids today, these athletes. I've been saying this now for
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a while. It is unbelievable how lucky we are as
sportscasters and fans find the bad guy, find the turd,
find the bad NBA guy. I mean, don't get me wrong,
the Lakers look like a reality show. They got the
goofiest set of guys in the league. They literally should
be a hard knocks NBA, but they're goofy. There's not
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a bad guy in the league. NFL's got some guys
you have to worry about. I'm not saying it's perfect,
but the stars J J. Watt, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson. Yeah,
I mean, they're like good kids. They got a fortune there.
Zion's gonna be fine. His coach should stop putting him
in a sentence with Lebron James. That's not fair because
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he's not gonna be Lebron. Good God, he's not gonna
be Lebron. We're not gonna see Lebron. But there's never
gonna be another Lebron. Like that's over. It's like Tiger
Woods for twelve years, Tiger Woods. Johnson's great Brooks Kepka,
you we're never gonna see Tiger again. He was He
wouldn't even a comet. He was a planet. It flew by.
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We had to sweet and change the gravity. It's like
mentioning him when Lebron is unfair, he can handle it.
This kid from day one Duke basketball shoe explodes. Nie
has heard. He has been a total A nineteen twenty
year old kid today is a thirty year old in
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the seventies and eighties. The coaching, the nutrition, the trainers,
the guidance, the financial support is so much better today.
Get Mike Schevski on, ask him what it was like
his first two years at Duke, and ask him what
he's created now. Those kids come out of Duke, they
are ready to roll, they are ready to go. They
got financial support, insurance, parental support, therapy, nutrition training. I mean,
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they got these kids. You don't think Kansas, Duke, Carolina.
Those kids come out of those programs and they miles
ahead of where kids seventies, eighties, even Michael Jordan saw
in the nineties. Be sure to catch live editions of
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Henry Abbitt writes a story. He said Lebron's anti social,
he's overly competitive. He Anthony Davis had softened him, and
my takeaways what's talk about? I want Lebron to be
more like Anthony Davis. I don't buy it. I don't
understand the criticism of Lebron. I don't buy this he's
obsessive stuff. I think he's relentless, like the all time greats,
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like Elon Musk, like Michael Jordan. What are you? What
are your takeaway on it? Yeah? And look I know
himry well. He's a former editor of the NBA at
ESPN dot com and a great guy, great reporter. But
I agree, and first of all, Lebron is far from antisocial.
I mean, Lebron is one of the most gregarious people
that you'll meet, particularly in the NBA, so that that
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was wrong. I do think he's obsessed with greatness, which
is which is what all the greats are. Michael Jordan
obviously was obsessed with greatness. And sometimes when you're obsessed
with greatness, it rubs people that don't mind being mediocre
or okay or very nonchalant about whinny, it rubs them
the wrong way. We saw it with Jordan, Magic Johnson,
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for all the smiling and all that he was obsessed
with greatness, same with Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas. That's how
the greats are, so there's no issue there. And I
even thought, like the story talked about how because of
Lebron's personality that some guys haven't liked playing with him
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and things like that. I think it's more about the
fact that when Lebron plays, he everything goes through him.
I think that is what has kind of pushed more
players away than just Lebron's obsessiveness and control over everything.
Now I'm not saying it doesn't rub some guys the
wrong way, but I think the bigger challenge is that
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everything goes through Lebron. When he's on the team. He
becomes the system. He makes all the plays, and that
can be challenging when you're a great player. Even if
Kyrie Irving, who's a point guard, had to back off
and let Lebron handle the ball most of the time, Yeah,
which has never bothered being but I do believe it's
a reality to play with Lebron James d Wade, Kyrie Irving,
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it's Lebron's team now Lakers Clippers tonight does it matter
more for one of the teams? And why Colin as
excited as I am about this game just because it's
the return of basketball. What makes me even more excited
are the dynamics. Now what has happened in the bubble.
The Lakers are focused, they are zero. Then Lebron James
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looked like he hasn't missed the beat. He looks like
he's in great shape, and that team is serious, and
the Clippers are the opposite. They got guys going in
and out of the bubble, guys you know, going to
to nightclubs, and Kawhi doesn't look good in the first
three exhibition games. So my point is this, if the
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Lakers can't beat the Clippers tonight under these circumstances, They've
got a d They've got Lebron, they're healthy, and the
Clippers are without their third and fourth best players Lou
Williams and Montres Harold and maybe their fifth best player,
Patrick Beverley. And if they still beat the Lakers tonight,
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then I don't know how you can think the Lakers
are gonna beat the Clippers in the playoffs if they
lose tonight. Now I think the Lakers will win, but
if they lose, that'll be three losses in four games
this season. Twice, the Clippers will have been without their
full complement of players, and now they're just kind of
lollygagging through the bubble so far, and they still could
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beat the Lakers. This is, I would say, virtually a
must win for the Lakers, assuming they play Lebrond thirty
plus minutes and try to win. So Charles Barkley came
on the other day and he said, if the Lakers win,
it's up to Anthony Davis. I think I don't see
the Lakers as a championship team. I think they're gonna
be really good because of Lebron and a D. But
I don't like their bench. I think it's an odd
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mix of guys way past their prime. I don't trust
Kyle Kuzman in a big spot. Alex Caruso is limited.
I've never seen him in this moment. I don't think
the Lakers are a championship team. But your thoughts about
how valuable a D is. Is he more valuable than Lebron.
I think the Lakers are the second best team in
the league. I think the Clippers are the best. So
I think if somehow, if the Clippers get upset by
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someone else, or if the Lakers get past them. I
think they'll win it. I think they'll beat Milwaukee or
whoever were to come out of the East. Look, Lebron
is clearly the Lakers most valuable player. I mean he
makes everything go. But I do agree with Charles in
that Ad will be the key. Doesn't mean he'll be
the finals MVP necessarily, but he will have to be
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dominant against the Clippers because Barkley's right. With Kawhi Leonard
and Paul George, they match up well with Lebron. We
saw in the first two meetings of the regular season,
George wasn't even playing and Lebron was not able to
take over the fourth quarters because the Clippers have great
perimeter defense. That means Anthony Davis, who the Clippers have
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no matchup for, is going to have to be dominant
in the fourth and Colin That's one thing I'm gonna
be watching for tonight. In their three games, he's averaged
twenty six points. So that can fool you and make
you think, oh wow, Ads had his way with the Clippers,
but no, He's had eight points in the fourth quarters
of the three games combined. That's twenty one minutes. He's
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got to be much better. I've been saying it all year.
The Lakers need to get a d used to being
a go to guy in the fourth quarter. So Alvin
Gentry says, oh, come on, slow down on Zion. We're
putting too much weight in his shoulders. It's like Lebron,
it might take his Zion has shown us since Duke
he's a big boy. He can handle this. He's got
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maturity beyond his years. Nobody thinks he's gonna win the title.
That Alvin's Alvin's bulldoze, pairenting him. He's clearing all the
runway for him. It's like Alvin, chill out, well, this
is this is what Alvin doesn't. Alvin's a great guy.
Any buying the NBA tell you that. But he under
what is it? Under promises and over delivered. That's what
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he sets the tone. He always downplays everything. So, um,
I look, I think right now, and as you said earlier,
you're absolutely right. First of all, why are you putting
him in the same sentence as Lebron if you want
to downplay expectations. I think right now, Colin, everything is great.
All we expect from Zion is big time scoring and excitement.
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That's it. Some dunk, some excitement, some hype, and you
give us twenty plus points. He can do that. The
challenge for Zion will come in a few years, perhaps
if it becomes the challenge is when people start expecting
him to win. Daddy. Right now, he's got two, three years,
four years maybe of a honeymoon period. Yeah, where we
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just want the hype, we just want the highlights. Twenty
five points and you're good. You're an All Star every year.
Once we start saying, okay, can you win, that is
when the challenge will become for Zion, because I'm not
convinced yet that his greatness and he's gonna be a
star will lead to winning though, because you know, can
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he rebound the ball at big numbers? We'll see he's
only give me a seven a game right now, and
they're winning. They're ten to nine with him, Colin. They
were eleven and five in the sixteen games before Zion
repoot or Zion returned, so they were already playing well.
The good thing for him is he's with a really
good young team. You got lines on, you got Ingram,
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you got Drew Holliday, so they should be in a
position to win in a few years. I'm not sure
if he'll be the driving force, the number one guy,
but you'll put up big numbers and they should be
a pretty good team. So Nick Wright and I are
going to be at my house tonight having some tequila,
watching it and going on Instagram, and so you'll want
to check that out, Bruce Hard, because there'll be a
lot of basketball knowledge being dropped on IG live. I've
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never done Instagram live. Tonight, I'm doing it with Nick
Wright and tequila. That sounds exciting. It kind of exciting.
Y sounds dangerous. I couldn't see anybuddy one more Herd.
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Dodgers had the twenty seventeen World Series potentially taken from
them because the Houston Astros cheated. They had a spreadsheet
called Codebreaker in which they stole signed and then relayed
them to hitters. That's sort of a no no. They
lost draft picks, but they never had a game taken
from them yet. Major League Baseball suspended four eight games,
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meaning the Dodgers will probably lose once or twice more
because Joe Kelly pitcher has been suspended for throwing at
and over the head of Houston Astro batters. Lance McCullers
is a fine player pitcher for the Astros, and he
did not like what Joe Kelly did. Joe Kelly threw
a ball behind Bregman's head on three and now on purpose.
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Not only did he, you know, take it upon himself
to you know, I guess send a message, but he
wasn't even part of the team during that season. You know,
we knew coming into the game that he likes to
go off script. So it is what it is. It
was done unprofessionally. What do you get after your punched out?
Carey was unprofessional? Running into the dugout was unprofessional. So
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it is what it is. We're here to play baseball.
We just want to win, so you know that's it.
Let's deconstruct some of those comments. Joe Kelly did it
on purpose? Did you not cheat on purpose? Joe Kelly
was unprofessional. Rigging the twenty seventeen World Series wasn't unprofessional.
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All we're all we're here to do is win. No
in twenty seventeen. That's not all you were there to do.
You were there to rig the sport. Stop talking, Lance,
Stop talking. Baseball and other sports don't have this. Baseball
polices itself. Baseball doesn't have a clock. Other sports have
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a clock. Baseball doesn't. Other sports have a salary cap,
all of them. Baseball doesn't. Baseball has a lot of
things unwritten rules. Other sports don't. Baseball's unique. And baseball
also has a system in which they police themselves. And
if you cheat, you will have a small, hard baseball
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thrown at you. Colony thrown his head. He's a professional pitcher.
He knew where it was going. These are pro athletes.
They can move out of the way. Find me the
litany of players hitting the head boinked by a baseball
who never played again. It's short When Astro supporters and
players and fans and coaches chuck about Joe Kelly's intent.
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He threw it a guy. Your intent was to rig
the sport, I'm gonna go with that's worse. And baseball
never really punished you. Draft picks fired your gm oh
talk about a slap on the wrist. So baseball didn't
take away any games from you. So Joe Kelly is
doing what baseball pitchers and players do. And by the way,
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it is allowed because I've seen it a thousand times.
John Smoltz came on our show Hall of Famer and said, yeah,
occasionally I was asked to throw it. Guys, all right,
you throw a little high, Well what I only get
a hitch on the ankles? You rig the World Series
and I get a throw right at your butt. That's it.
You weren't limited, Why am I? I have no problem.
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When you work at a company, you have to know
what you can get away within what you can. In football,
if you jump offsides. This is why a lot of
edge rushers join. I talked about this yesterday. This is
why they guess. They guess, they get to five year penalty.
This is why you see two or three times a
game a great edge rusher. He is guessing, he is
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looking at that ball, he is moving off side because
it's not much of a penalty. In the NBA. Occasionally,
to send a message second quarter, you do a hard foul,
guy gets a couple free throws. That's why guys occasionally
hard foul in baseball if you cheat or stay at
a home run like it or not, there will be repercussions,
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and that ball's a weapon, and it hurts, and these
guys throw ninety eight and you'll get one in the ribs.
Maybe sail it high. Joe Kelly can occasionally be wild.
He knows, he knows where the ball's going. Nobody got hit,
nobody got hurt. But baseball is absolutely hurt by what
the Astros did. I think repercussions are okay, you stole
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something from us. Baseball didn't make it punitive. This time.
We took it into our own hands a little, a
little fine, little suspension. I'm not saying life should be
a prison yard, right, That's not what I'm saying here.
But throwing the ball at a guy throwing behind him
eight games seems a little stiff to me. This is baseball.
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In football, you get a five yard penalty. In baseball,
you get a ninety eight mile an hour a heater
to the ribs. Don't cheat, that's a U problem, Houston,
and stop talking, Lance mc colors intent, sh don't want
to hear it. On purpose, not interested. All we're here
is to win. You get a spreadsheet called Codebreaker. Be
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sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays and
noon Eastern Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and
the iHeart Radio app. So tonight, NBA's back. I do
not think the Lakers are a championship team. I think
they're just asking too much of Lebron. I don't like
the bench. Kyle Kuzma's not a legitimate three. You don't
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know what you're getting Kuzma twenty six one night, zero
the next, thirty six one night for the next. He
did this all regular season. It's who he is. He
loses confidence and I don't think Lebron trusts him. And
I think Anthony Davis is somebody that's I've never seen
an alpha dog. I've never seen it. He's just talented,
and I think in the NBA, in the playoffs, two
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things matter, talent and leadership, and he's just talented. Charles Barkley,
though disagrees, he thinks Lakers are a championship team. I've
always said this. I love Lebron everything about him, but
he's gonna come down to Anthony Davis because you think
about this, Lebron is gonna have his hands full with
Paul George Kay offensively and defensibly so at his age
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that's a lot to ask to handle those two guys.
Nobody in the NBA can match up with Anthony Davis.
To me, he's gonna be the guy who's gonna dictate
whether the Lakers win the championship or not. And I
think if that's the case, it's a not. I've never
seen him be a dog. I've never seen him be
a leader. I've never seen him bark at a player.
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When KG and Rondo were in Boston, they would they
would bark at Doc Rivers, forget, forget teammates and opponents
Miami Lebron Wade Bosh barking at Mario Chalmers. Great teams
are verbal and they bark and they demand, and they
got dogs. Anthony Davis is simply talented. I've never seen it.
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All the Anthony Davis fans go, oh, the numbers, numbers, numbers.
He had those numbers in New Orleans they won a
single playoffs series. I know he gets numbers. The playoffs
aren't about numbers. The playoffs are about leadership because these
games are close, and the better coaches and the better
stars and the better I've seen Bird yell at people.
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I've seen MJ. I've seen Magic I've seen Kobe, I've
seen Lebron, I've seen d Wade, I've seen Kevin Durant,
Barkett guys, I've seen Draymond Barkett guys. Never seen Anthony
Davis do it? I want to see it. Otherwise you're
just talented. I'm over talented. The world's full of talented people.
Doesn't have many leaders. World's got talent everywhere. NBA's got
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talent everywhere. How many leaders are there? Five eight seven,
not a lot of leaders. So if it's coming down
to Anthony Davis, even on those Pelican teams, remember when
they won that playoff series against Portland. The leader, the
leader in that series with Drew Holiday in Rondo, That's
what everybody talked about. They're like, God, Drew Holliday just
took the series over. Anthony was just talented. And I
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don't think talent wins it alone. I think Toronto won
the championship last year. They got some breaks with health,
but they had great leaders on the team. They had
veteran players, they had a coach that people believed in,
they had Kawhi Leonard. There was leadership all over that
locker room. That Warriors team wasn't just talent. Steph Curry
and Kevin Durant, Draymond Green have real leadership qualities. Lebron
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d Way, you go last twenty five years in the NBA,
you go look at that Dallas team that shocked everybody.
There was leadership there, Rick Carlyle. It was a veteran
NBA team in dirt. Nabisca is a bunch of old guys.
They weren't the most athletic, they had leadership. San Antonio's
dynasty is about leadership, not just talent. So if Anthony
Davis is the reason you're gonna win, a guy, get
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me more than stats. Gott to bark at guys, Gotta
get after guys, Gotta hold guys accountable. Leadership's hard talent.
You wouldn't be in the league if you didn't have it.
NFL came out yesterday nfl dot Com Top one hundred
players voted on by the players. A lot of its nonsense,
but they're you know, they're mostly accurate. Number one, Lamar Jackson, two,
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Russell Wilson, three, Aaron Donald, Paul Patrick Mahomes number four,
And I think that's I was happiest about. And you
know what it's going to be. The players now are
finally acknowledging Russell Wilson's great battle lines, below average tight ends,
seventh round running back anequated offensive system. I was talking
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to a former NFL quarterback last night, a guy I've
never brought on this show before, really smart, and he said,
Russell Wilson is the doing more with less quarterback in
the league. That's not to say he's without flaws, but
if you look at Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes, they
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got the coach and the system and the old line
and the weapons and the running backs, and Russell does not.
This is finally players. By the way, last year, Russell
Wilson was ridiculously twenty fifth in this This is players going, Oh,
we get it, and that's okay. One of the things
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Bill Maher's a commentator on HBO, and he said this
for years and years with politics, stop yelling and screaming
because everybody doesn't get everything. At the same time, twelve
years ago, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were opposed to
gay marriage. It was a bad take, But you can't
demand growth and perfection. If we're going to grow, then
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we've made mistakes and we've been on the wrong side
of history and wrong side of humanity, and so players
for a long time they just didn't get Russell Wilson
and maybe a little smaller. He didn't have the mahomes arm,
you know, the system over there as it was very
Marshawn Lynch and defense and the defense had a nickname.
And Pete Carroll's a legend. And but if players now
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are acknowledging, all right, guy, they have him second best
player in the league. That's this is where he should be,
top three player in the league. I've said I think
he's the best football player in the world. I don't
necessarily think he's the best quarterback talent. I think Maholmes
is currently the best quarterback talent in the NFL. I
could argue Aaron Rodgers is the second best quarterback town
Lamar is probably the greatest athlete and getting better at
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the quarterback stuff. But Russell, to me, is the best
football player in the league if you combine playmaking, toughness, leadership,
IQ self awareness elevating others. World's best football player right there.
And by the way, I've had I used to say
this about Ladanian Tomlinson when he played for the Chargers.
I thought he was the best football player in the world.
He never fumbled, he could catch, he could block, he
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could run. He was a leader, he'd never got in trouble.
He made everybody better around him. I thought Ladanian Tomlinson
for about five years, was the world's best football player.
I'm not saying most valuable, but literally did everything well.
I think Aaron Donald right now is probably the second
best football player in the world, and Russell Wilson won
Aaron Donald two. The gap between Aaron Donald and the
second best defensive player in the league, it's absurd. Aaron
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Donald's graded everything pass, rush, double team against the run.
Leadership never gets hurt, has to be schemed. So it's
nice the players finally got it. Took him a while.
I get it. By the way, I started the show
today talking about there's an article out there criticizing Lebron
for being antisocial. True Hoop went out and say, you
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know he's antisocial. He's overly obsessive, which I don't even
know what that means. I mean, you're obsessive or and
I don't know what over what's the line of obsessive.
But I saw a story in May and I just
I wrote, sometimes the media wears me out. Most people
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in the media are not aspirational. I mean, if you
wrote two columns a week and that's all you do,
it's a nice lifestyle. You go to games, get free hotdogs,
a couple of columns a week. You're not trying to
change the world. But don't criticize people like Michael Jordan
and Elon Musk who are trying to change the world.
So Slate, which is kind of everybody's a victim website,
they wrote an article about Michael Jordan and the and
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the headline was, is there anything more to Michael Jordan
than basketball? If this documentary is the final word in
his legacy? The answer is apparently not. Oh good, hell,
he had an incredible relationship with his mother, great relationship
with his wife, close to his kids. He has an
incredibly tight circle of friends, same guys for twenty five years.
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He's got a hobby golf, loves it. If that and oh,
by the way, his profession, he's the greatest in the
world at it, not just basketball at pail. If that's
not a full life from some sportswriter for Slate, what's
your life look like? The documentary was a journey through
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the nineteen ninety eight season when the general manager said,
we're firing Phil Jackson. Regardless, that's what the documentary was about.
It was about a season of Michael Jordan. They sprinkled
in his family, they sprinkled in parts and elements of
his life, but his wife did not appear in it.
Michael probably didn't want his wife in it. He probably
don't want his kids in it. You know, a lot
of people in my business don't put their kids on
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Twitter or social media. Don't want their kids out there.
The idea that Michael Jordan has this shallow life, Oh
my god, he sleeps with a basketball. What a ship
he's got. If I know somebody and they have a
great relationship with their parents and a great relationship with
their kids, and they've had professional success and a good hobby,
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I'm out. That's a great life, parents, kids, tight friends,
good career, and yet even have a hobby. Everybody should
have a hobby. Everybody should have a good hobby. That's
not a complete life like the media is. You know
what can most of the media aren't aspirational. They're right there.
Two columns, Get a free hot dog, at a game
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and go home. That's what your life is. You just
don't get. You don't get those like Michael and Lebron.
And we have politicians in this country. They're they're immortals.
They want to be. They see they can change the world,
not just change a comma on a column. Michael doesn't
have a life. I mean people are. It's just it's incredible,
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the gall of it. If that's not having a life,
I would like to sign up. Yeah, can I have
Michael Jordan's lousy life, great relationship with his mom, his kids,
He's had to say. Michael's had the same group of
about six guys he runs with for twenty years. That's
that's the way to do it. Also, being obsessed with
what you're great at is not a bad thing. Yeah,
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Like if I if I was obsessed, if I was
obsessed about like singing, and I have no I can't sing,
I have no ability, I can't carry a single tune. Yeah. Actually,
I think we all probably know someone like that who's
obsessed with something they like but they are not particularly
talented at. It's called American idol. People spend twenty years
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and like at one point Simon Calligo's Your grandma told
you could sing. I'm here to tell you you can't.
That's sad being obsts of something you're not good at.
If I was obsessed with a golf it'd be pathetic.
I'm losing nine golf balls around. That would be fetic
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