February 13, 2020 • 41 mins
Colin explains why he prefers the way LeBron James is aging to the way Michael Jordan did. He thinks Tua Tagovailoa is clearly the best QB in the draft and explains why. He only sees one team that's a realistic landing spot for Tom Brady if he leaves the Patriots and it's not the team everyone thinks. Plus, former NFL DB and Super Bowl Champion Will Blackmon talks about the contract Dak Prescott deserves and why retirement should be a serious option for Tom Brady.
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Fox Sports Radio. Ah, here we go on a Thursday.
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We are packed live in Los Angeles. This is the
Herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening iHeartRadio,
Fox Sports Radio and FS one. I had a one
day retirement yesterday Aidan Omelet took a nap play tennis.
I had the greatest one day retirement of all time
on midweek day off and now I'm back for the
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next two days. Joey Taylor, how are you? I will
be honest. I spent most of yesterday's little thing sleeping.
That's significant amount, yes, just chilling out at home and sleeping. Yeah,
like like how teenagers can sleep. Ye, I'm scene amount.
My daughter takes four and a half. Yeah. I can't
do that anymore. I used to be able to do
that and yesterday, I achieved it, So you have you
have a lot of energy to that. I'm very well rested.
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So this says to me, I cover football. We cover
football until about you know, the Super Bowl. Than a
week we talk about football. And this is the time
I start watching a lot of NBA games. And last
night I watched Denver and the Lakers. And I'll get
more into the game later, but I want to talk
about Lebron James. He was unbelievable last night. And there's
always been this debate with Michael Jordan and Lebron and
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I've always said they're just two different people. And as
people age, I've noticed something, they become more of who
they truly are. Because when you get older and you
have money and you don't really need as many things.
As you get older, you become more of who you are.
You don't have to play kate people and be a
yes man and Brown knows the boss, and you become
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as you age, more of who you truly are. And
Lebron I like the way he ages more than Michael Jordan.
Now it should be noted as the Lakers beat Denver
and over time last night in Denver, which is saying
something that both players. At thirty five years old, MJ
and Lebron were great. MJ was the league MVP, twenty
nine points a game, Lebron's averaging twenty five points a
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game shooting forty nine percent. MJ was the best player
in the game. And let's be honest, Lebron is still
the best player, most dominant player in the NBA and
will control the league, hell even controls the TV ratings.
But here's the stark difference. And again, as you age,
you become more of who you are. At thirty five,
Michael Jordan had the fewest assists of his Chicago career.
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Lebron this year has the most. And that's who they are.
Michael Jordan's answer, and he's the best basketball player I
think I've ever seen. He Magic Lebron. Michael Jordan's answer
to everything was I got this. Lebron's answer to everything
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is we got this. As Michael became a truer personification
of who he was at thirty five, the fewest assists,
Lebron the most. Even their Olympic experiences, Michael went to
the Olympics and was battling Magic to prove I'm better
than you. Lebron goes to the Olympics, knows he's the
best player, and tries to create a community and friendships
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with other players. If you go listen Michael Jordan at
this point, at thirty five, Lebron's got three hundred and
twenty more regular season games, four full seasons, sixty more
playoff games. He should be worn down, he should be
beat up. Lebron is fresher, he's happier. I've never seen him.
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Last night he was totally laser focused. There is no bitterness.
Michael Jordan, after his thirty fifth birthday, quit for a
second time, and it really gives you sort of a
view on how to age. Listen, Michael's a great basketball player,
but even as he's retired, he's just disappeared into his
own sort of cocoon. That's not gonna be how Lebron retires.
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He's going to be a global and domestic basketball ambassador.
You'll hear about him all the time, not just through
press releases like MJ. But as I looked at Michael
Jordan at thirty five years old, he was great, but
it was in his last year in Chicago. I got this,
I'm getting I'm getting another title fellas get on my shoulders.
I got this, and that is seen as bravado and
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machismo and basketball people love that. But Michael was burnt out.
He retired for a second time, and he waited a
few years and went to Washington and was never the
same player. I watched Lebron last night, three hundred twenty
more games than MJ sixty more playoff games. He is
so fresh and so good, and so focused and so
easy to play with. Last night, He's got done. He's
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got the most assist now in his career. He's averaging
eleven and a half a game. And by the way,
they only have one other real true score. It's not
like he's got seven guys he can depend on. Kyle
Kuzma is their number three. He's average in fifteen sixteen
a night. So I like the way Lebron is aged.
I like his base DNA. Lebron's gonna age incredibly well
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and is aging. He is an incredibly fresh seventeenth year
in the NBA. I see very little wear and tear.
I see no bitterness. I see a focused, loving into it.
We got this DNA guy, And I know you can
call Michael the best ever I get it, but I
talk about this with my wife all the time. I
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don't want to be a crusty, old, bitter guy when
I retire, doing you know, Winnebago commercials on local radio.
I want to age well. I want to be happy.
I want to be part of a community. I want
to make other people better. I look at Lebron last
night in Denver, a tough place to play. I'm blown
away by it. This guy has figured out how to
do it. Surround yourself, lean on people, ask for some help,
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pass the ball more. It's not like Lebron couldn't go
out and score thirty three a night. You watch a
game last night. Nobody can stop him. Denver's got no
answer for him. Utah's got no answer for him. The
only team in the NBA that has an answer for
him Milwaukee with the Honors at the rim and the
Clippers on the wing with Paul George and Kwai. Nobody
else has an answer for Lebron. Utah didn't have a
guy to guard him, Houston doesn't, Portland's got Carmelo in
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the wing. He can't stop him. Lebron can score. There's
a great stat about Lebron James My favorite Lebron stat
of all time is that Lebron in high school I
think his junior year, John, you can look it up
that my numbers aren't exact, but Lebron as a junior
in high school average like, you know, twenty seven twenty
eighty game. You know, like freshman he averaged this, then sophomore,
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then junior. So you could think Lebron as a junior
in high schools average in like twenty seven points a game.
What did the average thirty nine or forty a senior year. No,
he didn't, he didn't. He averaged a point or two
more as he was in his massive growth stage. Is
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That's who Lebron is. That's why he's happy. That's why
he's not quitting for the second time. That's why he
doesn't turn off all his teammates like MJ did when
he went to Washington, where nobody could stand playing with him.
Last night, they asked Anthony Davis, what do you make
of Lebron? And He's like, well, he's the best player
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on the team. The players love him. I mean, what
did what did Joy and I say? The amazing thing
about this Laker team when they added a D and
all these parts. The first thing we said joy and
I said the first month was hell. They're like best friends.
Their chemistry is incredible. Michael's last stop, nobody could stand him.
And this is not to bash Michael Jordan, but watching
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Lebron play with the joy and the focus and the
happiness and the sharing and the most assists, that's how
I want to age. That's how you do it. That's
how you do it. You give a little you don't.
It's a I got this, it's a we got this,
and it's it is a pleasure to watch, all right. Well,
the Interweb for those of you just tuning in, that's
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the Internet. It was Al Gore created it years ago,
I think, and it's called the Interweb. I'm on it
all day, and boy it went crazy yesterday when my
friend Bucky Brooks, who played in the NFL that sort
of matters and scouted for the Carolina Panthers and now
he works for the NFL Network, he came out and
oh scary times. On the Interweb. He listed his top
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five quarterbacks. Oh, Joe Burrow wasn't number one. In fact,
Bucky Brooks top five quarterbacks were the exact order I
would put them in two, a number one, Joe Burrow
number two, Justin Herbert very close to to a three,
Jordan Love four and Jacobieson five. By the way, until
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mid November, you do realize everybody had two over Joe
Burrow and mid November. But what happened, and this happens
a lot in sports. You get these perfect storms and
Joe Burrow, nobody will admit this. I like the kid,
but he had a perfect storm. LSU rolled the dice
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on a coach from the Saints named Joe Brady. None
of us knew who he was, and Joe Brady ended
up being a perfect fit. LSU's offensive line was named
the number one offensive line in the country this year.
They had a star running back, two star receivers, and
a good tight end. They also played two when he
was about sixty percent, and then they got to play
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the National Championship, you know, as a home game in
New Orleans. It was a perfect storm, perfect storm for
Joe Burrow, who, it should be noted, is a fifth
year senior. That's what I said about Baker Mayfield. Be
careful about Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield came into the NFL
older than Sam Darnold older than Lamar Jackson, so he
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was closer to his ceiling. I think what you see
of Baker is his ceiling. I think what you Joe Burrow.
This is his fifth year, he's transferred. Last year at
Lash was numbers were average. He's an older quarterback, closer
to his athletic ceiling. Tuah didn't have to wait until
his fifth year to be great. He was remarkable at
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nineteen as a true freshman, called on in the National
Championship against a great Georgia team and delivered three touchdown
passes to win the game. Take a deep breath. Until
mid November, two was number one on everybody's board. Then
he got banged up. People are freaking out and they've
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moved him down. I'll say it again. It happens in sports,
and it happens all the time. You get this perfect
storm of events. You play Oklahoma first, you don't have
to play Ohio State first in the playoff. You get
the championship at home. You bring in an assistant that
takes an average Joe Burrow and fits perfectly. You have
the best offensive line, a star running back, great la
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wide receivers. You played two when he's sixty percent. I
love Tuah. I like Joe Burrow, but loving Tuah doesn't
mean you hate Joe Burrow. I just think it was
a perfect series of events that allowed Ed Orgeron, a
guy that lost a Troy at home in his second
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year at LSU, to be named national coach of the Year.
I'm gonna bet that never happens again, and I'm happy
for Ed and he'll win a bunch of games, but
he was on his way out by year three if
they lost one more game. It was such a perfect
year for LSU that Ed Orgeron fired at Old Miss
USC wouldn't give him a shot about the kit candid
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LSU when the national coach of the Year deserves it.
Happy for him, good guy, great story. But I think
Ed's story at this point is leaped his coaching ability.
He's a solid coach, He's not the best college football coach,
and Joe Burrows story and perfect storm has leaped his ability.
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Arm solid size, okay, athletic ability, solid good. Tuah's accuracy
is Drew Breeze, great interweb. Take a deep breath. We
get these perfect storms all the time, and they elevate
coaches and players. I love Tuah, I like Burrow and
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Bucky Brooks nailed it. Tua Burrow, Herbert Love, Jacobison, one
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now have and I noticed this about nine months ago
when Adam Schefter, a friend of mine and somebody I respect,
somebody everybody at Fox respects NFL reporters, said this Brady thing,
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he's going to look around. Don't kid yourself on this.
So this is not Slappy the blogger, it's Adam Schefter.
Christian Fourier, a former NFL or patriot, now works in Boston,
and media came out yesterday and said Tom's done, and
they're done with Tom. New England's done with Tom now again.
I have my beliefs on where he's going to go,
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but there's three or four things we have to all
be honest about here. We now have legitimate reporters who
I trust, and players that know Tom that are saying
these are not Again, these are not bloggers quoting each other.
These are real people. We also know that Brady and Belichick,
Jay Glazer reported Tom's not taken a pay cut. We
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also know Belichick generally doesn't pay anybody, I mean outside
of Stefan Gilmore, anybody. We've seen tension in this relationship.
We know that. I can tell you I have one
thing sourced. Brady is privately grumbling to those close to
him about the lack of weapons and New England's inability
over the last five or six years post Randy Moss
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to get weapons and keep weapons and draft and develop weapons.
These are all things you can't dispute. So I've been
thinking a lot about this this morning on our show.
We love pies. We love a good, delicious pie, and
I was going to do a Brady pie this morning
because I think it's it's at least optically, it's the
easiest thing to put your arms around seventy percent of
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the pie. I think Tom's going back to New England,
not because he's totally happy, but moving at his age,
learning a new offense is a pain in the rear.
I'll give one percent to retirement. He just throws his
hands up in the air. Four percent a surprise team.
I just don't buy the Chargers. I don't I have
connections to the franchise. I don't buy them. I don't
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buy Oakland. I don't care that he bought a house there.
I don't buy that. I don't buy Miami a team
I'm gonna throw out there. And the more I think
about this, I think they're the favorite in the clubhouse.
Beyond New England, it's the Tennessee Titans. And I'll tell
you why I think this. I've moved four times in
my career across the country, and I was comfortable and
making a lot of money in all the places. But
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when you move, you always move the same reasons. You
choose a place that is solving a current headache. Every
place I left there was an obstacle or a headache,
and I wanted to solve it, and I didn't believe
I could solve it. Sort of like Brady. What are
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Brady's two annoyances in New England that he can't solve?
Number One, Belichick will not spend money on weapons. He doesn't.
He wouldn't spend it on his buddy Welker. He doesn't.
And Tom can't overcome that because Tom can't control acquisitions
and trades. So Tom can't control that. So he wants
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better weapons. Secondly, is he wants to have more fun.
He wants to have fun. He's got the money. In
the titles, Bill's not fun, Bill's uncomfortable. They don't have
a relationship really, so just think of thee one place
that solves both of those, the two annoyances Tom can't
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fix fun. Mike Vrabel is one of his best friends.
He coaches Tennessee. He'd have fun with Mike Vrabel. Number
two is they have excellent weapons. Arguably the best running
back in the league. They've got two excellent receivers or
rookie last year from all Miss crushed it. They've got
a slot receiver Adam Humphreys, and a lot of draft picks.
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They solve the annoyances that are currently unsolvable. He would
have a lot more fun, and they've got weapons. Nashville
is also a cool city. I don't think that's the
be all end all, but if you said Indianapolis or Nashville,
most people with money and options would choose Nashville as
a place to live. I certainly would joy if given
an option, probably would I think Tom Brady would. I
don't think that's the be all end all, but I
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do think Nashville's a fun, cool, hip city where you know,
it's still close to the Eastern time zone. I think
Nashville to me kind of gain steam and the other
thing that matters here. You know, they've said before it's
easier for a child's brain to learn a new language
than an older person. That it's my daughter can speak
French at twelve and thirteen and fourteen years old. She
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picked up French. Like that. If you're trying to get
me to figure out how to speak French, good luck.
Picking up a new language later in life is hard.
Tennessee speaks Tom's language. Mike Vrabel knows his culture and
his language. The GMS a former patriot. There are patriots
all through the building. They're not all through the building
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an Indie or Miami or Oakland or the Chargers, they're not.
There's a couple in Miami, a couple. So between solving
the two annoyances, he'd have more fun, and he'd have
more weapons, and the reality that in an incredibly winnable division,
and that you talk about a place he could go tomorrow.
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A Jacksonville, functional Houston, Indianapolis doesn't have a quarterback. He
walks in can win a division. They speak my language.
I'd have fun and I'd have weapons. Here's my Tom Brady,
my official final Tom Brady Delicious Pie seventy percent in
New England twenty five percent, Titans four percent, Shocker one percent.
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I give up. I'm quitting. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart
Radio app. I have never watched the ton of NBA
in October, November, December, January. I don't think the teams
care much. You get into mid February, late February, and
then you start watching these NBA games and the players
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are into it. You can tell the good teams start
to dial stuff in the trading deadlines over so you're
stuck with what you got. You know, you can't go
to the social media and demand this or demand this.
At this point. The teams are what they are. This
is what they are, and I watch. I watched the
Lakers and the Nuggets last night in Denver. It was
a great game, and it was a great game, and
it felt like a playoff game. It felt like a playoff. Yeah, yeah,
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you could see this. You can now Jannis took the
night off from Milwaukee and they couldn't score, So you
can do that way as well. But last night I
watched Denver and at home, a very good team, and
then I watched the Lakers. And I have said about
Denver after Yokitch and then I like Jamal Murray. They
don't have a third guy you just can't go into
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and they're really really young. Last night it's a great
example of why Denver is not going to get out
of the West yet and why the Lakers have a
chance to get out of the West and win it all.
Although I don't think the Lakers should be favorite, last
night showed you all the limitations of Denver and it
showed you why the Lakers are going to end up
at minimum in the Western Conference finals. And I said
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this two days ago. So I watched the game last
night and it was classic second quarter. Yokich, a great player,
gets cold, doesn't do anything, He's just he's They get
outscored eighteen to two. Jamal Murray, he disappears, and they
don't have a third score. That's Denver's problem. You can't
rely on Yokis to be dominant for forty eight minutes.
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Players have dry spells, players get fatigued. Players he did,
He kind of disappears, and there's nobody else in the
building for Denver, nobody. Jamal Murray shot three times, missed
all of them. They don't have a third score. Gary
Harris is not going to get you to the next
You can't depend on him. It showed all the limitation
to Denver. Denver's at home, it's high altitude, it's the
day before the All Star Game. It's Denver's game to win.
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They got the home crowd, they're standing as they tip
it off, and they have a dry spell in the
first half and debt, and then late in the game.
Denver has twenty four year old Yokis, twenty two year
old Jamal Murray, twenty five year old Gary Harris, one
starter over thirty years old, over twenty five excuse me,
one starter over twenty five years old. Late in the
game and overtime, they just couldn't make the play. Of
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course they couldn't because they're kids. And the Lakers who
have Rondo Dwight Howard was once carrying team to the finals.
You got JaVale McGee, Avery Bradley, Lebron James, you have
all this playoff experienced. The Lakers go to Denver high
altitude game goes to overtime, they should be gas with
their old roster, and the Lakers made all the big
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plays late. And that's what the playoffs are for an
old team day before the All Star Game, to go
into high altitude Denver and to be able to go
to overtime. I mean that place. It's a different altitude, folks.
You're not playing at sea level. Playing up in the mountains,
it buries teams. Even average Denver teams are good at home.
The Lakers made all the crucial steel couple threes by
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ad they tie up, create a jump ball, all the
crucial plays late by all the veteran Laker players, and
that young team in Denver doesn't make them. And that's
the playoffs. This is why Denver can win a playoff series,
potentially could win a second, but they'll never to me,
never win the Western Conference finals. Last night, it's a
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great example. It was a playoff game in February. That's
what a playoff game feels like, and it was a
classic game. The Lakers will end up winning those in
the playoffs because they have all these sage veterans. I
mean Dwight Howard's coming off the bench, and this is
a guy who's been two NBA Finals. This is the
guy who was a leader of a franchise. He's not
what he used to be. He's been a hell of
a player for the for the Lakers this year off
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the bench. And then I'm not a Rondo fan, but
Avery Rondo javail. It was that game told you exactly
what you're gonna see in April. Young talented Denver team
that needs a third guy and count count on anybody
when Yokich is a little off or as a dry
spell for six minutes, and a Laker team that's gonna
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get out played certain nights and figure out a way
to win because they have all these KG veterans. Lebron
talked about the game last night, which which you could
tell clearly he felt like this is a big one
because we may end up plan at Denver in the playoffs,
and we want to let them know these are the
games will win. Every opportunity that we get to play
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in a close game or it's a tough opponent, you know,
it's a learning experience for all of us. It prepares us,
you know for a postseason game where it's gonna be
back and forth, back and forth. I thought tonight was
a playoff atmosphere of both teams being number one and
number two in the West Conference, you know, jocking for positions.
So you know, I'm just trying to make plays whatever
it takes, you know, on the offensive vent on a
defensive van and you know, and an eighty was there,
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you know, knocking down big threes, getting a block, getting
some stops. You know, it was just it was got
the got the jump ball as well, just a big time,
all the big plays. Spectrum sports Net, thanks for the
video there, all the big players late, the old team
that should be tired and ot getting ready for a
nice all star break, made all the big plays late.
The young guys did not welcome to what the playoffs
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look like. In April, May and ju be sure to
catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon eastern
a Empacific. Dak Prescott was asked a couple of days
ago as he worth forty million dollars and at Dak
shot back, what do you think to the reporter? People
tend to use They tend to use words like deserve.
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Let's just talk about what contract negotiations are. Here's the
word leverage. It's not about deserving. I've never been paid
because I deserve something. I've been paid a lot of money.
If I have some leverage, the company needs me at
least a little bit, and maybe I have other offers,
it's called leverage. It's not called deserve or earn. Dak
has some leverage here because the Cowboys don't have anybody
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behind him that can play, and it's the world's well,
it's America's big as sports brand. That's leverage. Forget deserve
and earn. Dak's got some leverage. Cowboys have some leverage
on the open market. Dak's not getting a lot of
offers for thirty seven million. Let's start with zero and
work our way down. So they both have leverage, different
kinds of leverage, and because of that a deal will
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get done. Now it just comes down to a certain number,
but the deal will get done because Dak needs them
on the open market, he's not getting this money, and
the Cowboys need him. They don't want to go into
chaos mode at quarterback. That's a nightmare. The one time
they did networks took Cowboy games off and Jerry loves
the publicity. Now, the concern is, we have a quarterback
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in Dak that is going to get paid a lot
of money thirty five thirty six million. If you look
at the current quarterbacks that are making that kind of money,
Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl, Ben won two, Jared
Goff got to one, Aaron got to one in one,
Carson Wentz was having an MVP year when he got hurt.
Clearly shown the ability to carry a team, and Matt
Ryan got to should have but didn't win a super Bowl. Dak,
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with the best a line, with the best running back,
has a playoff win. That's a concern. Here's the reality
with Dak. He doesn't misstarts, got excellent leadership qualities, and
he keeps in most NFL games that in his leverage,
is going to get him probably thirty five million bucks
goes up, it won't hurt nearly as much. Here's my
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biggest problem with Dak and why I would probably franchise
tag him. Here's my problem when I say the word Apple, Google, Amazon,
those are massive brands. They are imperfect and flawed, but
they don't really have a ceiling. If I say Real
Madrid Manchester United international sports teams, they are imperfect and
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have bad seasons, but they never have low ceilings. They
can go get and pay for who they want. When
I say Dallas Cowboys, Los Angeles Lakers and New York Yankees,
I'm not asking for perfect, but I would never want
to be trapped and feel like I have a low ceiling.
When the brand is universal, Google, Apple, Amazon, Real, Madrid Lakers,
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I can deal with imperfection. I don't like the term
low ceiling. That's what worries me with Dak. Pam thirty five.
You're not going to be able to resign some guys defensively,
and I think Dak's good, He's not special. I don't
love that. It's why I would franchise him. I'd like
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to see him play again without Zeke for a couple
of weeks, maybe with a beat up offensive line, prove
he can carry it like Wentz has to meet so far.
But a deal's going to get done. It's not about
deserving or earning. It's about leverage, and Dak has enough
and Dallas has enough that a deal will get done.
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Blackman is joining me ten NFL seasons, a Super Bowl
champ with the Giants, and now he's in the wine business.
I screwed up last night. You slid into my DMS
and asked me about slide. Ask you a question. You
asked me a question, which was I said, what kind
of wine do you like? And I thought I put
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Pinot noir and I put pink noir, so I said Rose,
and I'm like, no, Oregon Pinots like like duh. And
then I'm like I just read five minutes ago, and
I'm like, oh, I did put pink noir. My problem
is I'd had a couple of glasses of Pinot noir,
so I couldn't see strap. I was at the shop.
I was going to shop for you, and then you
you took too long? You were a what shop? You're
at the wine shop? Yeah? Do you drink rose? No? No,
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but I've had rose? Why not? Though? Because like pinots? Okay,
I'm a guy that goes back to the same thing
over and over. I'm not like a I find what
I like in life at a restaurant and I order
one or two things at the same I go to
the same restaurants and I order the same two things.
I'm not going to take big chances in my life. Now.
Why not? You don't bungee jump at seventy Why not?
My grandpa went skiing at seventy three. All skiing's done
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a risk for me. I'm an excellent skier, but I'm
not going to jump out of a plane at eighty
if I If I die at eighty four, it'll say
coward dies of old age. It won't say jumped off
a cliff just to have a good time. Coward dies.
So I'm not moving on to wines that I haven't
tasted and haven't grown an affinity that's very extreme, though
jump I go to Plano trying rose. That is a
very extreme bro Will Blackman is joining me. So let
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me ask you this. When you take over a new business,
I've done this a few times. I start a new show,
I generally want to start from scratch. I went out
and found John Goulay because I've had John Goulay before,
so I said, I got to get somebody that's familiar
with me. I buy the Carolina Panthers, I got a
new coach, I've changed the front office. I think I
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would move off Cam. I think I would move off him.
And by the way, I'm already picking seven. I can
get to the number two spots. I've moved off of
a really good coach, So that's not far fetched. So
what would you do if you ran the franchise in
Carolina with Cam? Well? Based off what Temper said, he said,
I handled the business side, now I need to go
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down and handle the football side. And he is truly
going through every single a little piece of what's going
on there. Yes, and his last interview, he said, okay,
is Cam healthy, because if he's not healthy, we can't
do anything yet. So I'm sure he's truly waiting to
see if he's healthy because he can't. He can't be
a guy that owns a dealership. And he's like, man,
I got this twenty eleven Bentley that is ready to go.
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We've got a couple of flats hires, so you have
to wait until we repair it, you know. So I
think that's truly what it is. I think he can
get a second for Kim. You get a second rounder. Yeah,
so I can draft my future quarterback. I've got a
transitional piece Kyle Allen. That's not my future, but I
can compete with him. But An he's someone you can
hold onto because he gets it. He's a backup quarterback.
You can win with backups for a while. They did well. Absolutely.
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Now let's go to Matt Stafford. Now, at least Cam's
gotten to a super Bowl. I like Matt. He's a
good kid, he's got talent. Eleven years no division titles.
Now he's a little broken down. He's still young enough.
I could send him out to the trade market for
Indie or the Chargers, and I think both potentially would bite.
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I would move off him, take the cap hit for
a year. We're not winning the super Bowl anyway, because
I'm gonna draft Tua with a number three pick. I'm
not worried about Super Bowl for a year. What I
need to do is add juice, energy and start over.
Is that crazy or would you keep Stafford? If Stafford
went to Indie, They're anstantly going to the playoffs because
he's not gonna get hit. So he has value on
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the market, has tons of because just based on his
skill set alone. I think the most underrated things people
realize with Stafford is his arm strength. Yes, no question.
I still have a ligament that is partially torn because
I try to pick off one of his passes and
it just went right through my hands. Like he has
a strong and he's able to lead his team back.
But well, I've always said this when the Colts moved
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off Peyton. When you get a divorce, yeah, you have
to realize as a man. I'll speak as a man
when you get a divorce. My ex wife is going
to find happiness elsewhere. I've got to come to terms
with that and not worry about it. Denver Indianapolis had
to realize Peyton's gonna leave us and he's going to
win for a while, but we're gonna move on to
luck green Bay moves off, far Brett's gonna be able
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to beat us for the next couple of years as
we go to Rogers. When you move off somebody, the
only way to move off a player with value is
he's going to win somewhere else. You're gonna come to
you off. But you also better have a plan. And
two was my plan because two was not going one.
So I love too as a plan. I'm just saying
I like that too. If I could take two and say, listen,
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I'm gonna move Stafford, I'm gonna trade him. But there's
so many parts with Detroit where it's like they're not
far off. Oh you really think that? I think yeah,
in the NFC. The NFC, I don't think they're far off.
Because one, when's the last time they had a two
I mean a thousand yard of Russia Reggie Bush? Was
it like they gonna have one? Now? You gotta find
you gotta get something like that. You gotta get something
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there that's gonna once again. He has enough talent where
is plenty of talent where he needs something complimenting around him.
You know, when Marvin Jones came back, they will lighten
it up until Marvin Jones gott injured. You know, they
still have Kenny Gallady, a great receiver. They got to
get just more pieces than offensive around him, find a
way to protect him. They're not when you you they
have a franchise quarterback. Like you said, he's still young
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and he's still able to do all these things. He
can throw for four thousand yards in his sleep. I
guess my take on cam and Stafford is they have
market value, they will win elsewhere. I don't deny it
with the right fit, but I need to start over.
I need new juice. Right, I'm eleven years in with
Matt Stafford and I don't have a division title, and
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I don't have a playoff win. Yeah, Detroit is Detroit
is an interesting It's a lot confusing organization because you
don't know, at least with Tepper that he speak. He's
telling you what we're doing. Oh, I know, I listen.
Tepper is gonna win games. I think he's gonna offend
some people, but he's gonna win games because he's honest.
He's brutal, he's he's cutthroat, bottom line, super bright. He's
running his football team like he ran his hedge fund.
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He's gonna makes give me another quarterback, Dac. What do
you do? You pay him? All? Right? How much? Thirty five?
That's fair? Thirty six? Yeah, I mean I wouldn't pay
him that much. Why can't a franchise tag him for
one year? Because he I think I believe he deserves
the contract. Deserves Yeah, deserves gets a lot of jams
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fired is he special? He's a franchise quarterback. All right,
so he's is he? Is he better than Andy Dalton?
He's better than he? Is he better than Matt Ryan?
He's not better than Matt Ryan. Is he better than
Kirk Cousins. That's debatable? Okay, So thirty five million for
Kirk Cousins and you'd be comfortable with that if I
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had a like a turnkey situation like Minnesota and like
Dallas does. Yeah, Dak is good. Kirk Cousins is good
for that, all right, just come just coming here and
don't mess it up. Well, that's not that's not very
willful in aspirations. It's not wolf in aspirations. But that's
why I look at what don't mess it up? For example,
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you can't win in Super Bowls on don't mess it
up woll For example, Minnesota thought they were one quarterback away,
so they go get Kirk as he coming here and
get us where we need to be because we have
everything in peace in place. Dallas they felt like they
had things in place and they need they needed someone
to come here and as a head coach to get
us to where we need to go because we have
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a lot of the pieces here. So you think McCarthy
and Dak is capable of getting to a conference champions
I believe so. All right, then then, by the way,
you should pay him if you believe that. Yeah, because
if you if you think about forget the super Bowl,
if you believe your quarterback, this is every quarterback in
the league. Do you believe your quarterback can get to
the conference championship? I didn't say win it. Yeah, if
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your quarterback can get day that should be the line. Yeah,
because once you get to the conference championship, you're facing
Brady's and Rogers, You're facing Russell Wilson Mahomes. That that
really is the baseline to all of this. It is
if you believe your quarterback, with the current construct of
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your coaching staff, can get to a conference championshipvision title
is not enough now, it's no, that's not enough. Shaun
Watson Now he's gonna win this off pretty much ever
since Angel Luck left, He's gonna win this auf a while.
So Dak and McCarthy to you can get than pay him? Yeah,
that's fair. What would you what do you make it?
I can't believe this is a story. So years ago
when Will Blackman's joining us, So years ago when Tim
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Tebow got hot and I was at the other place,
and I think I was the only on air person
of note in America during a seven game winning stream.
He said, I just said, this is not He's winning,
but I'm not building around he is a good football player.
It's not sustainable. There's a difference between can he wins
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Sunday and are you gonna are you gonna build around him?
So all of a sudden, I never even thought of
Taysom Hill as a starting quarterback. I mean, he's a
good kid. I think he's a more athletic Tim Tebow.
He run a four to four to five Tebo round
a four to seven. He's a more athletic Tebow with
a better throwing motion. I think he can win on Sunday.
Taysom Hill can win on Sunday. But in all the
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years he's been in New Orleans, he's attempted. If theme
passes pretty much sums up what they think. If there's
blocking punts. He is a great athlete. I never thought
of him really as a franchise quarterback. I think of
him as a more athletic Tebow. And I always said
about Tebow, love to have him on my roster. I'm
just not building around him. So there's this belief that
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if Breeze retired, I would go with Teddy Bridgewater. I
wouldn't even think twice about it. Right, there's a lot
of people out there saying, you know, the special Team's
coach said he throws a better ball than Lamar Jackson.
Do you, as a football player, see Taysom Hill as
a franchise quarterback. No, neither do I. I've never seen
anything that will let me believe that that's exactly what
I think. He's a guy who's going to play ten
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years because he has value, and I would pay him,
by the way, I would love to have him on
my roster. I give him some kind of like like
a mass leader type of deal. I even more because
I think he can score touchdowns. Matt can block a punt, right,
you know there are guys in this league. I think
the mistake we make will as we confuse. He could
win a game Sunday with I'm building around him. The
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infrastructure for Taysom Hill would have you'd have to have
this quirky off it. It just wouldn't work. So he's
not as hyper athletic as Lamar and he can't throw
nearly as well as the top twelve quarterbacks in the league.
I don't. I don't get the story here. Yeah, because
you know, he wasn't healthy in college. I think he
got a medical red shirt in order to, you know,
keep playing. And then I don't. I haven't seen any
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full preseason games of him. By the way, he's gonna
have to go somewhere and win a job. I could
be wrong here. Let me look this up real quick.
Hold on one second, right, what's up. He's gonna turn thirty.
He's gonna turn thirty, Okay, so ask yourself. In the
history of comedy, one stand up comedian was a late bloomer.
One Rodney Dangerfield. Everybody else by sixteen eighteen twenty two,
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now he was good and young, was he? Dangerfield's the
only generally, if you look at most in tech, nobody's
a late bloomer in tech. The people that are great
at twelve eighteen, Bill Gate sixteen, you can't be thirty.
And nobody has said let's make him a franchise quarterback.
It's not a position you can beat. Quarterbacks don't aren't
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late bloomers. I just don't see it. Finally, Tom Brady,
your Tom today, What do you do? I am staying
with New England and we look at Tom Brady and
you're like, okay, what's the incentative? Right? He's done everything?
All right? I'm if I look at if there's one
thing that would motivate Tom is because there are only
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two organizations that have six Super Bowls, right, Patriots and Steelers.
Maybe he wants seven. You stay and get seven, otherwise
you go home. That's what here's my Brady pie. Seventy
percent in New England, twenty five percent in Nashville because
he would have fun and he has struggled having fun.
Retirement surprise team one percent retirement, Yeah, I mean one percent.
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He just says, I'm done with this, guys. I don't
trust New England. I've taken a beating. He's in Costa
Rica with his wife and kids and he's like, you
know what, I don't miss it. I'm out. You think,
what do you think retirement's at? I think it's higher
than that, higher as in twenty five, do you think? Yeah?
I think it's seventy five, twenty five, seventy five New
England twenty five retirement. I can see him going to
Costa Rica and just saying, you know what, where I don't.
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We don't show any indication we're going to draft a
tight end or wide receivers. And I'm out. I can
see it, but I just have it a smaller percentage. Yeah,
if from him, I'm waiting to see what happens during preseason?
Do I get weapons? He just needs offensive weapons as well.
You know, all you have to wait for is the draft.
You don't have to wait for preseason. But but that time,
it's listen to New England's gotta thread the needle here
because bottom line, in order if they want him, they
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have to pay him by March eighteenth or too much
bigger cap hit. So they have to thread the needle
on this. And I don't think it's gonna happen. Look,
it's it's funny here. Tom can really screw over the Patriots.
Tom can basic well I'm not saying he would, but
Tom's got a lot of leverage here. They don't have
anybody in house who can win a lot of games.
Is very true. You will Blackman, good see and you yeah,
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always a pleasure, yeah, yeah, like when you're telling in
your life. Yeah, among other things David Bruce Peanot noir. Fantastic.
What is that, David Bruce, Peanot noire. It wars out
of Santa Cruz Mountains, oh Yo. He was His wind
was in the nineteen seventy six judgment of Paris, finished
top ten out of twenty. It's a sleeper. It's sleeper.
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Draft is legit, dude,
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We are packed live in Los Angeles. This is the
Herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening iHeartRadio,
Fox Sports Radio and FS one. I had a one
day retirement yesterday Aidan Omelet took a nap play tennis.
I had the greatest one day retirement of all time
on midweek day off and now I'm back for the
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next two days. Joey Taylor, how are you? I will
be honest. I spent most of yesterday's little thing sleeping.
That's significant amount, yes, just chilling out at home and sleeping. Yeah,
like like how teenagers can sleep. Ye, I'm scene amount.
My daughter takes four and a half. Yeah. I can't
do that anymore. I used to be able to do
that and yesterday, I achieved it, So you have you
have a lot of energy to that. I'm very well rested.
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So this says to me, I cover football. We cover
football until about you know, the Super Bowl. Than a
week we talk about football. And this is the time
I start watching a lot of NBA games. And last
night I watched Denver and the Lakers. And I'll get
more into the game later, but I want to talk
about Lebron James. He was unbelievable last night. And there's
always been this debate with Michael Jordan and Lebron and
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I've always said they're just two different people. And as
people age, I've noticed something, they become more of who
they truly are. Because when you get older and you
have money and you don't really need as many things.
As you get older, you become more of who you are.
You don't have to play kate people and be a
yes man and Brown knows the boss, and you become
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as you age, more of who you truly are. And
Lebron I like the way he ages more than Michael Jordan.
Now it should be noted as the Lakers beat Denver
and over time last night in Denver, which is saying
something that both players. At thirty five years old, MJ
and Lebron were great. MJ was the league MVP, twenty
nine points a game, Lebron's averaging twenty five points a
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game shooting forty nine percent. MJ was the best player
in the game. And let's be honest, Lebron is still
the best player, most dominant player in the NBA and
will control the league, hell even controls the TV ratings.
But here's the stark difference. And again, as you age,
you become more of who you are. At thirty five,
Michael Jordan had the fewest assists of his Chicago career.
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Lebron this year has the most. And that's who they are.
Michael Jordan's answer, and he's the best basketball player I
think I've ever seen. He Magic Lebron. Michael Jordan's answer
to everything was I got this. Lebron's answer to everything
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is we got this. As Michael became a truer personification
of who he was at thirty five, the fewest assists,
Lebron the most. Even their Olympic experiences, Michael went to
the Olympics and was battling Magic to prove I'm better
than you. Lebron goes to the Olympics, knows he's the
best player, and tries to create a community and friendships
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with other players. If you go listen Michael Jordan at
this point, at thirty five, Lebron's got three hundred and
twenty more regular season games, four full seasons, sixty more
playoff games. He should be worn down, he should be
beat up. Lebron is fresher, he's happier. I've never seen him.
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Last night he was totally laser focused. There is no bitterness.
Michael Jordan, after his thirty fifth birthday, quit for a
second time, and it really gives you sort of a
view on how to age. Listen, Michael's a great basketball player,
but even as he's retired, he's just disappeared into his
own sort of cocoon. That's not gonna be how Lebron retires.
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He's going to be a global and domestic basketball ambassador.
You'll hear about him all the time, not just through
press releases like MJ. But as I looked at Michael
Jordan at thirty five years old, he was great, but
it was in his last year in Chicago. I got this,
I'm getting I'm getting another title fellas get on my shoulders.
I got this, and that is seen as bravado and
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machismo and basketball people love that. But Michael was burnt out.
He retired for a second time, and he waited a
few years and went to Washington and was never the
same player. I watched Lebron last night, three hundred twenty
more games than MJ sixty more playoff games. He is
so fresh and so good, and so focused and so
easy to play with. Last night, He's got done. He's
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got the most assist now in his career. He's averaging
eleven and a half a game. And by the way,
they only have one other real true score. It's not
like he's got seven guys he can depend on. Kyle
Kuzma is their number three. He's average in fifteen sixteen
a night. So I like the way Lebron is aged.
I like his base DNA. Lebron's gonna age incredibly well
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and is aging. He is an incredibly fresh seventeenth year
in the NBA. I see very little wear and tear.
I see no bitterness. I see a focused, loving into it.
We got this DNA guy, And I know you can
call Michael the best ever I get it, but I
talk about this with my wife all the time. I
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don't want to be a crusty, old, bitter guy when
I retire, doing you know, Winnebago commercials on local radio.
I want to age well. I want to be happy.
I want to be part of a community. I want
to make other people better. I look at Lebron last
night in Denver, a tough place to play. I'm blown
away by it. This guy has figured out how to
do it. Surround yourself, lean on people, ask for some help,
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pass the ball more. It's not like Lebron couldn't go
out and score thirty three a night. You watch a
game last night. Nobody can stop him. Denver's got no
answer for him. Utah's got no answer for him. The
only team in the NBA that has an answer for
him Milwaukee with the Honors at the rim and the
Clippers on the wing with Paul George and Kwai. Nobody
else has an answer for Lebron. Utah didn't have a
guy to guard him, Houston doesn't, Portland's got Carmelo in
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the wing. He can't stop him. Lebron can score. There's
a great stat about Lebron James My favorite Lebron stat
of all time is that Lebron in high school I
think his junior year, John, you can look it up
that my numbers aren't exact, but Lebron as a junior
in high school average like, you know, twenty seven twenty
eighty game. You know, like freshman he averaged this, then sophomore,
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then junior. So you could think Lebron as a junior
in high schools average in like twenty seven points a game.
What did the average thirty nine or forty a senior year. No,
he didn't, he didn't. He averaged a point or two
more as he was in his massive growth stage. Is
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That's who Lebron is. That's why he's happy. That's why
he's not quitting for the second time. That's why he
doesn't turn off all his teammates like MJ did when
he went to Washington, where nobody could stand playing with him.
Last night, they asked Anthony Davis, what do you make
of Lebron? And He's like, well, he's the best player
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on the team. The players love him. I mean, what
did what did Joy and I say? The amazing thing
about this Laker team when they added a D and
all these parts. The first thing we said joy and
I said the first month was hell. They're like best friends.
Their chemistry is incredible. Michael's last stop, nobody could stand him.
And this is not to bash Michael Jordan, but watching
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Lebron play with the joy and the focus and the
happiness and the sharing and the most assists, that's how
I want to age. That's how you do it. That's
how you do it. You give a little you don't.
It's a I got this, it's a we got this,
and it's it is a pleasure to watch, all right. Well,
the Interweb for those of you just tuning in, that's
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the Internet. It was Al Gore created it years ago,
I think, and it's called the Interweb. I'm on it
all day, and boy it went crazy yesterday when my
friend Bucky Brooks, who played in the NFL that sort
of matters and scouted for the Carolina Panthers and now
he works for the NFL Network, he came out and
oh scary times. On the Interweb. He listed his top
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five quarterbacks. Oh, Joe Burrow wasn't number one. In fact,
Bucky Brooks top five quarterbacks were the exact order I
would put them in two, a number one, Joe Burrow
number two, Justin Herbert very close to to a three,
Jordan Love four and Jacobieson five. By the way, until
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mid November, you do realize everybody had two over Joe
Burrow and mid November. But what happened, and this happens
a lot in sports. You get these perfect storms and
Joe Burrow, nobody will admit this. I like the kid,
but he had a perfect storm. LSU rolled the dice
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on a coach from the Saints named Joe Brady. None
of us knew who he was, and Joe Brady ended
up being a perfect fit. LSU's offensive line was named
the number one offensive line in the country this year.
They had a star running back, two star receivers, and
a good tight end. They also played two when he
was about sixty percent, and then they got to play
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the National Championship, you know, as a home game in
New Orleans. It was a perfect storm, perfect storm for
Joe Burrow, who, it should be noted, is a fifth
year senior. That's what I said about Baker Mayfield. Be
careful about Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield came into the NFL
older than Sam Darnold older than Lamar Jackson, so he
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was closer to his ceiling. I think what you see
of Baker is his ceiling. I think what you Joe Burrow.
This is his fifth year, he's transferred. Last year at
Lash was numbers were average. He's an older quarterback, closer
to his athletic ceiling. Tuah didn't have to wait until
his fifth year to be great. He was remarkable at
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nineteen as a true freshman, called on in the National
Championship against a great Georgia team and delivered three touchdown
passes to win the game. Take a deep breath. Until
mid November, two was number one on everybody's board. Then
he got banged up. People are freaking out and they've
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moved him down. I'll say it again. It happens in sports,
and it happens all the time. You get this perfect
storm of events. You play Oklahoma first, you don't have
to play Ohio State first in the playoff. You get
the championship at home. You bring in an assistant that
takes an average Joe Burrow and fits perfectly. You have
the best offensive line, a star running back, great la
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wide receivers. You played two when he's sixty percent. I
love Tuah. I like Joe Burrow, but loving Tuah doesn't
mean you hate Joe Burrow. I just think it was
a perfect series of events that allowed Ed Orgeron, a
guy that lost a Troy at home in his second
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year at LSU, to be named national coach of the Year.
I'm gonna bet that never happens again, and I'm happy
for Ed and he'll win a bunch of games, but
he was on his way out by year three if
they lost one more game. It was such a perfect
year for LSU that Ed Orgeron fired at Old Miss
USC wouldn't give him a shot about the kit candid
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LSU when the national coach of the Year deserves it.
Happy for him, good guy, great story. But I think
Ed's story at this point is leaped his coaching ability.
He's a solid coach, He's not the best college football coach,
and Joe Burrows story and perfect storm has leaped his ability.
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Arm solid size, okay, athletic ability, solid good. Tuah's accuracy
is Drew Breeze, great interweb. Take a deep breath. We
get these perfect storms all the time, and they elevate
coaches and players. I love Tuah, I like Burrow and
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Bucky Brooks nailed it. Tua Burrow, Herbert Love, Jacobison, one
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now have and I noticed this about nine months ago
when Adam Schefter, a friend of mine and somebody I respect,
somebody everybody at Fox respects NFL reporters, said this Brady thing,
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he's going to look around. Don't kid yourself on this.
So this is not Slappy the blogger, it's Adam Schefter.
Christian Fourier, a former NFL or patriot, now works in Boston,
and media came out yesterday and said Tom's done, and
they're done with Tom. New England's done with Tom now again.
I have my beliefs on where he's going to go,
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but there's three or four things we have to all
be honest about here. We now have legitimate reporters who
I trust, and players that know Tom that are saying
these are not Again, these are not bloggers quoting each other.
These are real people. We also know that Brady and Belichick,
Jay Glazer reported Tom's not taken a pay cut. We
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also know Belichick generally doesn't pay anybody, I mean outside
of Stefan Gilmore, anybody. We've seen tension in this relationship.
We know that. I can tell you I have one
thing sourced. Brady is privately grumbling to those close to
him about the lack of weapons and New England's inability
over the last five or six years post Randy Moss
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to get weapons and keep weapons and draft and develop weapons.
These are all things you can't dispute. So I've been
thinking a lot about this this morning on our show.
We love pies. We love a good, delicious pie, and
I was going to do a Brady pie this morning
because I think it's it's at least optically, it's the
easiest thing to put your arms around seventy percent of
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the pie. I think Tom's going back to New England,
not because he's totally happy, but moving at his age,
learning a new offense is a pain in the rear.
I'll give one percent to retirement. He just throws his
hands up in the air. Four percent a surprise team.
I just don't buy the Chargers. I don't I have
connections to the franchise. I don't buy them. I don't
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buy Oakland. I don't care that he bought a house there.
I don't buy that. I don't buy Miami a team
I'm gonna throw out there. And the more I think
about this, I think they're the favorite in the clubhouse.
Beyond New England, it's the Tennessee Titans. And I'll tell
you why I think this. I've moved four times in
my career across the country, and I was comfortable and
making a lot of money in all the places. But
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when you move, you always move the same reasons. You
choose a place that is solving a current headache. Every
place I left there was an obstacle or a headache,
and I wanted to solve it, and I didn't believe
I could solve it. Sort of like Brady. What are
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Brady's two annoyances in New England that he can't solve?
Number One, Belichick will not spend money on weapons. He doesn't.
He wouldn't spend it on his buddy Welker. He doesn't.
And Tom can't overcome that because Tom can't control acquisitions
and trades. So Tom can't control that. So he wants
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better weapons. Secondly, is he wants to have more fun.
He wants to have fun. He's got the money. In
the titles, Bill's not fun, Bill's uncomfortable. They don't have
a relationship really, so just think of thee one place
that solves both of those, the two annoyances Tom can't
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fix fun. Mike Vrabel is one of his best friends.
He coaches Tennessee. He'd have fun with Mike Vrabel. Number
two is they have excellent weapons. Arguably the best running
back in the league. They've got two excellent receivers or
rookie last year from all Miss crushed it. They've got
a slot receiver Adam Humphreys, and a lot of draft picks.
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They solve the annoyances that are currently unsolvable. He would
have a lot more fun, and they've got weapons. Nashville
is also a cool city. I don't think that's the
be all end all, but if you said Indianapolis or Nashville,
most people with money and options would choose Nashville as
a place to live. I certainly would joy if given
an option, probably would I think Tom Brady would. I
don't think that's the be all end all, but I
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do think Nashville's a fun, cool, hip city where you know,
it's still close to the Eastern time zone. I think
Nashville to me kind of gain steam and the other
thing that matters here. You know, they've said before it's
easier for a child's brain to learn a new language
than an older person. That it's my daughter can speak
French at twelve and thirteen and fourteen years old. She
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picked up French. Like that. If you're trying to get
me to figure out how to speak French, good luck.
Picking up a new language later in life is hard.
Tennessee speaks Tom's language. Mike Vrabel knows his culture and
his language. The GMS a former patriot. There are patriots
all through the building. They're not all through the building
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an Indie or Miami or Oakland or the Chargers, they're not.
There's a couple in Miami, a couple. So between solving
the two annoyances, he'd have more fun, and he'd have
more weapons, and the reality that in an incredibly winnable division,
and that you talk about a place he could go tomorrow.
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A Jacksonville, functional Houston, Indianapolis doesn't have a quarterback. He
walks in can win a division. They speak my language.
I'd have fun and I'd have weapons. Here's my Tom Brady,
my official final Tom Brady Delicious Pie seventy percent in
New England twenty five percent, Titans four percent, Shocker one percent.
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I give up. I'm quitting. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart
Radio app. I have never watched the ton of NBA
in October, November, December, January. I don't think the teams
care much. You get into mid February, late February, and
then you start watching these NBA games and the players
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are into it. You can tell the good teams start
to dial stuff in the trading deadlines over so you're
stuck with what you got. You know, you can't go
to the social media and demand this or demand this.
At this point. The teams are what they are. This
is what they are, and I watch. I watched the
Lakers and the Nuggets last night in Denver. It was
a great game, and it was a great game, and
it felt like a playoff game. It felt like a playoff. Yeah, yeah,
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you could see this. You can now Jannis took the
night off from Milwaukee and they couldn't score, So you
can do that way as well. But last night I
watched Denver and at home, a very good team, and
then I watched the Lakers. And I have said about
Denver after Yokitch and then I like Jamal Murray. They
don't have a third guy you just can't go into
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and they're really really young. Last night it's a great
example of why Denver is not going to get out
of the West yet and why the Lakers have a
chance to get out of the West and win it all.
Although I don't think the Lakers should be favorite, last
night showed you all the limitations of Denver and it
showed you why the Lakers are going to end up
at minimum in the Western Conference finals. And I said
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this two days ago. So I watched the game last
night and it was classic second quarter. Yokich, a great player,
gets cold, doesn't do anything, He's just he's They get
outscored eighteen to two. Jamal Murray, he disappears, and they
don't have a third score. That's Denver's problem. You can't
rely on Yokis to be dominant for forty eight minutes.
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Players have dry spells, players get fatigued. Players he did,
He kind of disappears, and there's nobody else in the
building for Denver, nobody. Jamal Murray shot three times, missed
all of them. They don't have a third score. Gary
Harris is not going to get you to the next
You can't depend on him. It showed all the limitation
to Denver. Denver's at home, it's high altitude, it's the
day before the All Star Game. It's Denver's game to win.
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They got the home crowd, they're standing as they tip
it off, and they have a dry spell in the
first half and debt, and then late in the game.
Denver has twenty four year old Yokis, twenty two year
old Jamal Murray, twenty five year old Gary Harris, one
starter over thirty years old, over twenty five excuse me,
one starter over twenty five years old. Late in the
game and overtime, they just couldn't make the play. Of
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course they couldn't because they're kids. And the Lakers who
have Rondo Dwight Howard was once carrying team to the finals.
You got JaVale McGee, Avery Bradley, Lebron James, you have
all this playoff experienced. The Lakers go to Denver high
altitude game goes to overtime, they should be gas with
their old roster, and the Lakers made all the big
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plays late. And that's what the playoffs are for an
old team day before the All Star Game, to go
into high altitude Denver and to be able to go
to overtime. I mean that place. It's a different altitude, folks.
You're not playing at sea level. Playing up in the mountains,
it buries teams. Even average Denver teams are good at home.
The Lakers made all the crucial steel couple threes by
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ad they tie up, create a jump ball, all the
crucial plays late by all the veteran Laker players, and
that young team in Denver doesn't make them. And that's
the playoffs. This is why Denver can win a playoff series,
potentially could win a second, but they'll never to me,
never win the Western Conference finals. Last night, it's a
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great example. It was a playoff game in February. That's
what a playoff game feels like, and it was a
classic game. The Lakers will end up winning those in
the playoffs because they have all these sage veterans. I
mean Dwight Howard's coming off the bench, and this is
a guy who's been two NBA Finals. This is the
guy who was a leader of a franchise. He's not
what he used to be. He's been a hell of
a player for the for the Lakers this year off
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the bench. And then I'm not a Rondo fan, but
Avery Rondo javail. It was that game told you exactly
what you're gonna see in April. Young talented Denver team
that needs a third guy and count count on anybody
when Yokich is a little off or as a dry
spell for six minutes, and a Laker team that's gonna
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get out played certain nights and figure out a way
to win because they have all these KG veterans. Lebron
talked about the game last night, which which you could
tell clearly he felt like this is a big one
because we may end up plan at Denver in the playoffs,
and we want to let them know these are the
games will win. Every opportunity that we get to play
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in a close game or it's a tough opponent, you know,
it's a learning experience for all of us. It prepares us,
you know for a postseason game where it's gonna be
back and forth, back and forth. I thought tonight was
a playoff atmosphere of both teams being number one and
number two in the West Conference, you know, jocking for positions.
So you know, I'm just trying to make plays whatever
it takes, you know, on the offensive vent on a
defensive van and you know, and an eighty was there,
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you know, knocking down big threes, getting a block, getting
some stops. You know, it was just it was got
the got the jump ball as well, just a big time,
all the big plays. Spectrum sports Net, thanks for the
video there, all the big players late, the old team
that should be tired and ot getting ready for a
nice all star break, made all the big plays late.
The young guys did not welcome to what the playoffs
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look like. In April, May and ju be sure to
catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon eastern
a Empacific. Dak Prescott was asked a couple of days
ago as he worth forty million dollars and at Dak
shot back, what do you think to the reporter? People
tend to use They tend to use words like deserve.
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Let's just talk about what contract negotiations are. Here's the
word leverage. It's not about deserving. I've never been paid
because I deserve something. I've been paid a lot of money.
If I have some leverage, the company needs me at
least a little bit, and maybe I have other offers,
it's called leverage. It's not called deserve or earn. Dak
has some leverage here because the Cowboys don't have anybody
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behind him that can play, and it's the world's well,
it's America's big as sports brand. That's leverage. Forget deserve
and earn. Dak's got some leverage. Cowboys have some leverage
on the open market. Dak's not getting a lot of
offers for thirty seven million. Let's start with zero and
work our way down. So they both have leverage, different
kinds of leverage, and because of that a deal will
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get done. Now it just comes down to a certain number,
but the deal will get done because Dak needs them
on the open market, he's not getting this money, and
the Cowboys need him. They don't want to go into
chaos mode at quarterback. That's a nightmare. The one time
they did networks took Cowboy games off and Jerry loves
the publicity. Now, the concern is, we have a quarterback
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in Dak that is going to get paid a lot
of money thirty five thirty six million. If you look
at the current quarterbacks that are making that kind of money,
Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl, Ben won two, Jared
Goff got to one, Aaron got to one in one,
Carson Wentz was having an MVP year when he got hurt.
Clearly shown the ability to carry a team, and Matt
Ryan got to should have but didn't win a super Bowl. Dak,
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with the best a line, with the best running back,
has a playoff win. That's a concern. Here's the reality
with Dak. He doesn't misstarts, got excellent leadership qualities, and
he keeps in most NFL games that in his leverage,
is going to get him probably thirty five million bucks
goes up, it won't hurt nearly as much. Here's my
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biggest problem with Dak and why I would probably franchise
tag him. Here's my problem when I say the word Apple, Google, Amazon,
those are massive brands. They are imperfect and flawed, but
they don't really have a ceiling. If I say Real
Madrid Manchester United international sports teams, they are imperfect and
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have bad seasons, but they never have low ceilings. They
can go get and pay for who they want. When
I say Dallas Cowboys, Los Angeles Lakers and New York Yankees,
I'm not asking for perfect, but I would never want
to be trapped and feel like I have a low ceiling.
When the brand is universal, Google, Apple, Amazon, Real, Madrid Lakers,
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I can deal with imperfection. I don't like the term
low ceiling. That's what worries me with Dak. Pam thirty five.
You're not going to be able to resign some guys defensively,
and I think Dak's good, He's not special. I don't
love that. It's why I would franchise him. I'd like
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to see him play again without Zeke for a couple
of weeks, maybe with a beat up offensive line, prove
he can carry it like Wentz has to meet so far.
But a deal's going to get done. It's not about
deserving or earning. It's about leverage, and Dak has enough
and Dallas has enough that a deal will get done.
One more herd. The herd streams twenty four hours a day,
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seven days a week. Within the iHeartRadio app, search Herd
to listen live or on demand whenever you like. Will
Blackman is joining me ten NFL seasons, a Super Bowl
champ with the Giants, and now he's in the wine business.
I screwed up last night. You slid into my DMS
and asked me about slide. Ask you a question. You
asked me a question, which was I said, what kind
of wine do you like? And I thought I put
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Pinot noir and I put pink noir, so I said Rose,
and I'm like, no, Oregon Pinots like like duh. And
then I'm like I just read five minutes ago, and
I'm like, oh, I did put pink noir. My problem
is I'd had a couple of glasses of Pinot noir,
so I couldn't see strap. I was at the shop.
I was going to shop for you, and then you
you took too long? You were a what shop? You're
at the wine shop? Yeah? Do you drink rose? No? No,
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but I've had rose? Why not? Though? Because like pinots? Okay,
I'm a guy that goes back to the same thing
over and over. I'm not like a I find what
I like in life at a restaurant and I order
one or two things at the same I go to
the same restaurants and I order the same two things.
I'm not going to take big chances in my life. Now.
Why not? You don't bungee jump at seventy Why not?
My grandpa went skiing at seventy three. All skiing's done
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a risk for me. I'm an excellent skier, but I'm
not going to jump out of a plane at eighty
if I If I die at eighty four, it'll say
coward dies of old age. It won't say jumped off
a cliff just to have a good time. Coward dies.
So I'm not moving on to wines that I haven't
tasted and haven't grown an affinity that's very extreme, though
jump I go to Plano trying rose. That is a
very extreme bro Will Blackman is joining me. So let
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me ask you this. When you take over a new business,
I've done this a few times. I start a new show,
I generally want to start from scratch. I went out
and found John Goulay because I've had John Goulay before,
so I said, I got to get somebody that's familiar
with me. I buy the Carolina Panthers, I got a
new coach, I've changed the front office. I think I
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would move off Cam. I think I would move off him.
And by the way, I'm already picking seven. I can
get to the number two spots. I've moved off of
a really good coach, So that's not far fetched. So
what would you do if you ran the franchise in
Carolina with Cam? Well? Based off what Temper said, he said,
I handled the business side, now I need to go
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down and handle the football side. And he is truly
going through every single a little piece of what's going
on there. Yes, and his last interview, he said, okay,
is Cam healthy, because if he's not healthy, we can't
do anything yet. So I'm sure he's truly waiting to
see if he's healthy because he can't. He can't be
a guy that owns a dealership. And he's like, man,
I got this twenty eleven Bentley that is ready to go.
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We've got a couple of flats hires, so you have
to wait until we repair it, you know. So I
think that's truly what it is. I think he can
get a second for Kim. You get a second rounder. Yeah,
so I can draft my future quarterback. I've got a
transitional piece Kyle Allen. That's not my future, but I
can compete with him. But An he's someone you can
hold onto because he gets it. He's a backup quarterback.
You can win with backups for a while. They did well. Absolutely.
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Now let's go to Matt Stafford. Now, at least Cam's
gotten to a super Bowl. I like Matt. He's a
good kid, he's got talent. Eleven years no division titles.
Now he's a little broken down. He's still young enough.
I could send him out to the trade market for
Indie or the Chargers, and I think both potentially would bite.
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I would move off him, take the cap hit for
a year. We're not winning the super Bowl anyway, because
I'm gonna draft Tua with a number three pick. I'm
not worried about Super Bowl for a year. What I
need to do is add juice, energy and start over.
Is that crazy or would you keep Stafford? If Stafford
went to Indie, They're anstantly going to the playoffs because
he's not gonna get hit. So he has value on
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the market, has tons of because just based on his
skill set alone. I think the most underrated things people
realize with Stafford is his arm strength. Yes, no question.
I still have a ligament that is partially torn because
I try to pick off one of his passes and
it just went right through my hands. Like he has
a strong and he's able to lead his team back.
But well, I've always said this when the Colts moved
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off Peyton. When you get a divorce, yeah, you have
to realize as a man. I'll speak as a man
when you get a divorce. My ex wife is going
to find happiness elsewhere. I've got to come to terms
with that and not worry about it. Denver Indianapolis had
to realize Peyton's gonna leave us and he's going to
win for a while, but we're gonna move on to
luck green Bay moves off, far Brett's gonna be able
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to beat us for the next couple of years as
we go to Rogers. When you move off somebody, the
only way to move off a player with value is
he's going to win somewhere else. You're gonna come to
you off. But you also better have a plan. And
two was my plan because two was not going one.
So I love too as a plan. I'm just saying
I like that too. If I could take two and say, listen,
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I'm gonna move Stafford, I'm gonna trade him. But there's
so many parts with Detroit where it's like they're not
far off. Oh you really think that? I think yeah,
in the NFC. The NFC, I don't think they're far off.
Because one, when's the last time they had a two
I mean a thousand yard of Russia Reggie Bush? Was
it like they gonna have one? Now? You gotta find
you gotta get something like that. You gotta get something
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there that's gonna once again. He has enough talent where
is plenty of talent where he needs something complimenting around him.
You know, when Marvin Jones came back, they will lighten
it up until Marvin Jones gott injured. You know, they
still have Kenny Gallady, a great receiver. They got to
get just more pieces than offensive around him, find a
way to protect him. They're not when you you they
have a franchise quarterback. Like you said, he's still young
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and he's still able to do all these things. He
can throw for four thousand yards in his sleep. I
guess my take on cam and Stafford is they have
market value, they will win elsewhere. I don't deny it
with the right fit, but I need to start over.
I need new juice. Right, I'm eleven years in with
Matt Stafford and I don't have a division title, and
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I don't have a playoff win. Yeah, Detroit is Detroit
is an interesting It's a lot confusing organization because you
don't know, at least with Tepper that he speak. He's
telling you what we're doing. Oh, I know, I listen.
Tepper is gonna win games. I think he's gonna offend
some people, but he's gonna win games because he's honest.
He's brutal, he's he's cutthroat, bottom line, super bright. He's
running his football team like he ran his hedge fund.
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He's gonna makes give me another quarterback, Dac. What do
you do? You pay him? All? Right? How much? Thirty five?
That's fair? Thirty six? Yeah, I mean I wouldn't pay
him that much. Why can't a franchise tag him for
one year? Because he I think I believe he deserves
the contract. Deserves Yeah, deserves gets a lot of jams
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fired is he special? He's a franchise quarterback. All right,
so he's is he? Is he better than Andy Dalton?
He's better than he? Is he better than Matt Ryan?
He's not better than Matt Ryan. Is he better than
Kirk Cousins. That's debatable? Okay, So thirty five million for
Kirk Cousins and you'd be comfortable with that if I
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had a like a turnkey situation like Minnesota and like
Dallas does. Yeah, Dak is good. Kirk Cousins is good
for that, all right, just come just coming here and
don't mess it up. Well, that's not that's not very
willful in aspirations. It's not wolf in aspirations. But that's
why I look at what don't mess it up? For example,
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you can't win in Super Bowls on don't mess it
up woll For example, Minnesota thought they were one quarterback away,
so they go get Kirk as he coming here and
get us where we need to be because we have
everything in peace in place. Dallas they felt like they
had things in place and they need they needed someone
to come here and as a head coach to get
us to where we need to go because we have
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a lot of the pieces here. So you think McCarthy
and Dak is capable of getting to a conference champions
I believe so. All right, then then, by the way,
you should pay him if you believe that. Yeah, because
if you if you think about forget the super Bowl,
if you believe your quarterback, this is every quarterback in
the league. Do you believe your quarterback can get to
the conference championship? I didn't say win it. Yeah, if
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your quarterback can get day that should be the line. Yeah,
because once you get to the conference championship, you're facing
Brady's and Rogers, You're facing Russell Wilson Mahomes. That that
really is the baseline to all of this. It is
if you believe your quarterback, with the current construct of
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your coaching staff, can get to a conference championshipvision title
is not enough now, it's no, that's not enough. Shaun
Watson Now he's gonna win this off pretty much ever
since Angel Luck left, He's gonna win this auf a while.
So Dak and McCarthy to you can get than pay him? Yeah,
that's fair. What would you what do you make it?
I can't believe this is a story. So years ago
when Will Blackman's joining us, So years ago when Tim
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Tebow got hot and I was at the other place,
and I think I was the only on air person
of note in America during a seven game winning stream.
He said, I just said, this is not He's winning,
but I'm not building around he is a good football player.
It's not sustainable. There's a difference between can he wins
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Sunday and are you gonna are you gonna build around him?
So all of a sudden, I never even thought of
Taysom Hill as a starting quarterback. I mean, he's a
good kid. I think he's a more athletic Tim Tebow.
He run a four to four to five Tebo round
a four to seven. He's a more athletic Tebow with
a better throwing motion. I think he can win on Sunday.
Taysom Hill can win on Sunday. But in all the
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years he's been in New Orleans, he's attempted. If theme
passes pretty much sums up what they think. If there's
blocking punts. He is a great athlete. I never thought
of him really as a franchise quarterback. I think of
him as a more athletic Tebow. And I always said
about Tebow, love to have him on my roster. I'm
just not building around him. So there's this belief that
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if Breeze retired, I would go with Teddy Bridgewater. I
wouldn't even think twice about it. Right, there's a lot
of people out there saying, you know, the special Team's
coach said he throws a better ball than Lamar Jackson.
Do you, as a football player, see Taysom Hill as
a franchise quarterback. No, neither do I. I've never seen
anything that will let me believe that that's exactly what
I think. He's a guy who's going to play ten
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years because he has value, and I would pay him,
by the way, I would love to have him on
my roster. I give him some kind of like like
a mass leader type of deal. I even more because
I think he can score touchdowns. Matt can block a punt, right,
you know there are guys in this league. I think
the mistake we make will as we confuse. He could
win a game Sunday with I'm building around him. The
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infrastructure for Taysom Hill would have you'd have to have
this quirky off it. It just wouldn't work. So he's
not as hyper athletic as Lamar and he can't throw
nearly as well as the top twelve quarterbacks in the league.
I don't. I don't get the story here. Yeah, because
you know, he wasn't healthy in college. I think he
got a medical red shirt in order to, you know,
keep playing. And then I don't. I haven't seen any
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full preseason games of him. By the way, he's gonna
have to go somewhere and win a job. I could
be wrong here. Let me look this up real quick.
Hold on one second, right, what's up. He's gonna turn thirty.
He's gonna turn thirty, Okay, so ask yourself. In the
history of comedy, one stand up comedian was a late bloomer.
One Rodney Dangerfield. Everybody else by sixteen eighteen twenty two,
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now he was good and young, was he? Dangerfield's the
only generally, if you look at most in tech, nobody's
a late bloomer in tech. The people that are great
at twelve eighteen, Bill Gate sixteen, you can't be thirty.
And nobody has said let's make him a franchise quarterback.
It's not a position you can beat. Quarterbacks don't aren't
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late bloomers. I just don't see it. Finally, Tom Brady,
your Tom today, What do you do? I am staying
with New England and we look at Tom Brady and
you're like, okay, what's the incentative? Right? He's done everything?
All right? I'm if I look at if there's one
thing that would motivate Tom is because there are only
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two organizations that have six Super Bowls, right, Patriots and Steelers.
Maybe he wants seven. You stay and get seven, otherwise
you go home. That's what here's my Brady pie. Seventy
percent in New England, twenty five percent in Nashville because
he would have fun and he has struggled having fun.
Retirement surprise team one percent retirement, Yeah, I mean one percent.
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He just says, I'm done with this, guys. I don't
trust New England. I've taken a beating. He's in Costa
Rica with his wife and kids and he's like, you
know what, I don't miss it. I'm out. You think,
what do you think retirement's at? I think it's higher
than that, higher as in twenty five, do you think? Yeah?
I think it's seventy five, twenty five, seventy five New
England twenty five retirement. I can see him going to
Costa Rica and just saying, you know what, where I don't.
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We don't show any indication we're going to draft a
tight end or wide receivers. And I'm out. I can
see it, but I just have it a smaller percentage. Yeah,
if from him, I'm waiting to see what happens during preseason?
Do I get weapons? He just needs offensive weapons as well.
You know, all you have to wait for is the draft.
You don't have to wait for preseason. But but that time,
it's listen to New England's gotta thread the needle here
because bottom line, in order if they want him, they
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have to pay him by March eighteenth or too much
bigger cap hit. So they have to thread the needle
on this. And I don't think it's gonna happen. Look,
it's it's funny here. Tom can really screw over the Patriots.
Tom can basic well I'm not saying he would, but
Tom's got a lot of leverage here. They don't have
anybody in house who can win a lot of games.
Is very true. You will Blackman, good see and you yeah,
(41:00):
always a pleasure, yeah, yeah, like when you're telling in
your life. Yeah, among other things David Bruce Peanot noir. Fantastic.
What is that, David Bruce, Peanot noire. It wars out
of Santa Cruz Mountains, oh Yo. He was His wind
was in the nineteen seventy six judgment of Paris, finished
top ten out of twenty. It's a sleeper. It's sleeper.
(41:23):
Draft is legit, dude,
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