Cam Newton, Patriots, where Colin was right & wrong

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one hour from now. Top of next hour. Albert Breer
later this hour from a New England perspective on signing
Cam Newton, and Joy Taylor is joining me in a Monday. Joy,
how are you? I'm great? Wow. That was news to
get in the middle of the afternoon yesterday. It's more
interesting than Jarre Stidham with a Patriot'll tell you it's

(01:07):
more interesting. It's wild. Yeah, it's fun. I mean it's
it's We've said this before. I don't remember a time
in my life where the NFL has had more different
types of quarterbacks, the big, strong, the small, runaround, the
pocket guy, the old guy, the young guy. New England's
gonna be interesting. Now. I don't think Cam's gonna take

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New England to a special place. And here's five or
six reasons why. Number one, it's a very complicated system
and he has not taken a snap in it. Number
two is he's not going to get all the snaps.
Jared Stidham is going to get a lot of snaps.
Tom Brady wouldn't let his back up have snaps. Jared
Stidham's got fans in that locker room, fans on that

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coaching staff. He's gonna get some snaps. Number three is
Dante Scarnekia, the best offensive line coach in the last
twenty years, retired and I don't think this is a
great offensive line. Number four is New England doesn't have
any deep threats. I mean, one of the things about Cam,
he's a home run hitter. You cannot like Cam all
the time. He's not the most efficient guy, but he's

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a home run hitter. They have no deep threats. Number
five is they don't really have a workable tight end.
Tight ends. They drafted a couple tight ends generally struggle
in the NFL first year. It's just one of those positions.
The blocking assignments are difficult. The offenses are more sophisticated.
Let's be honest. This offense is built for like Brady.

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It's built for efficiency in detail. There are no two
play drives. This is a ten play drive, eleven play drive.
Don't make a mistake, you know, efficiency detailed. They don't
have any game breakers. I mean, Patrick Mahomes doesn't have
to be great with details. He's gonna get some cheap
home runs with that offense. Between Andy Reid schemes and

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you know Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey, there are some
cheap touchdowns there. They just got guys beaten guys. This
new England offense, this is what drove Tom Brady nuts.
It has to be meticulous and precise because nobody's remember
he was screaming last year, get open, separate. Nobody does.
So this is kind of built for efficiency in details,

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and I just don't think that's Cam's game. His career
completion percentage is fifty nine percent. Brady, his career completion
percentage never went under sixty. It's about sixty four or
sixty five percent. Now. I do think they're going to
go from a boring six and ten with Jarrett Stidham,
not dynamic at all, to a more dynamic eight and
eight and fun to watch. I'm in, I said, after

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about two quarters of Stidham, I'm done with it. Oh,
I'm totally in. Now they'll be like Cleveland. I don't
know if they'll be good. They'll be fascinating to watch
it grow. But Cam's been in the NFL for nine years.
If you're in the NBA nine years, the NHL nine years,
the NBA, the MLS, I kind of know what you are.
He's dynamic, He's not terribly efficient, but this is the

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thing that's going to be in interesting. So in Carolina
he was the number one pick and it had to work,
and they really built everything around Cam. So every year
they got they got offensive lineman that worked, running backs
that work. Not that he was coddled, but at Auburn,

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at Junior College and at Carolina, the system was built
for Cam. He was he really was panther football. I'm
not even know you know, I mean he for that
period he was Panther football. That's not the way it
works here. They got a system. They won way more
than Cam without him. There's no coddling. They're not building
it for him. Here's our system. Hope it works. That's

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not going to be easy for Cam now. I think
he's talented enough that he'll just make plays. And I
do think he did himself a huge favor working his
ass off and putting videos every third day on the internet.
It showed me I'm committed on when they get wins,
I want to be a guy. I thought that was

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a real important sign of maturity from sometimes a quarterback
that's not the most mature and the most focused. I shot.
I thought in the last three months, I'm into it.
I'm focused, I'm driving, I'm working out with Odell Beckham,
I'm working out. I think Belichick and guys looked at
that and thought, all right, I'll roll the dice with that.
That's the kind of commitment I want. But it's different now, Carolina.

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It was built to make it work. What kind of
commitment does New England have. They're not giving them all
the snaps. It's a one year deal. I mean, if
I said to you, Cam Newton, New England. Do you
think it's a relationship in ten years? No? Do you
absolutely think it's a relationship in five years? I bet

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most of you say no. So when you go into
any relationship, business, person on person relationship, what's the commitment
going in? This feels like God, some sizzle, it's fun.
Here's a year I think the best Cam Newton can do.

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Show he's healthy, Show he's focused, Add a little sizzle
to kind of a rigid, not very dynamic offense. And
then I think in the year from now, the market
will open up for people and they'll say, all right,
he's thirty two years old, he looks like he's healthy.
He will get better protection in New England that he

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got in Carolina, because I think New England protects their
quarterbacks I don't know better than any franchives i've seen ever,
Like that's what they do. I saw pictures yesterday of
Cam Newton in a Patriot Jersey and there was like
grass on it and I'm like, oh, no, he won't
hit the turf munch. No, I mean they this is
what New England did with Tom Brady better than anything else.
It wasn't always about great defenses. They didn't Aways have

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great defenses. It wasn't always a great weapons new England
protects their quarterback. That's what they do. So Cam's gonna
get lots of opportunities three and four seconds to make throws,
but nobody's gonna be open. Nobody's gonna be open deep.
You're not getting much from the tight end position. I
think it's an awkward fit player to system, and I

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think it's a Hollywood marriage, a lot of fun and sizzle.
It's not gonna last real long, but hey, I'm gonna
watch it, and I'm a consumer of football. But I mean,
if you look at Cam since the MVP Super Bowl year,
you can just look at the numbers kind of and
that's where they were trying to get coordinators and coaches

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and players that work for him. Here, we don't care
if it works for you. We got a guy. If
it doesn't work, we'll draft another guy next year. If
it doesn't work, come on in, do your thing. I
think the winner here is Cam Newton if he can
get the Belichick Seal of approval, if he's healthy, focused,
work hard, win some games, and Belichick in the end says, hey,

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we really enjoyed Cam this was great. We really enjoyed it.
We got some other things we're looking at, but we
really enjoyed this relationship. That's the win for Cam. It's
not this job, it's the job after this job, and
I'm rooting for him. I actually am okay, so New England,
So New England, this is what they do. So news

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this morning, I was going to lead about this story.
The Patriots have been fined one point one million dollars.
They lost a third round draft pick next year, they
can't have TV crews film any games next year. That
was going to be my lead today. That was going
to be the lead on Undisputed, Speak for Yourself, First Take,
and every show in every network. That was going to

(08:42):
be the lead story, which doesn't make Robert Kraft look
very good or the Patriots. And then seventeen minutes after
the Patriots learned that from the NFL, they signed Cam Newton.
And Cam Newton's a fun story. All you and I
have been talking about with football since the draft is
COVID stories. Cam's an act, actual player, He's polarizing, and

(09:02):
it's kind of like a feel good story, right, Like
we all know Cam's good enough to start somewhere I
heard the story. I'm my God's fun. I mean, I
don't think Cam's ever been my kind of quarterback, but
it's a fun story. It's an actual player playing for
an actual great coach. And now that's the stories. I
was driving in this morning. I bounced around to all

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the stations. Nobody was talking about the one point one
million fine in the draft pick. It was all Cam
all the time. This is what New England does. This
is the funny thing about New England. And so you know,
like think about Lebron and the Cavaliers. The Cavaliers have
been a mess my whole life, but when Lebron showed
up twice, he sort of added a refinement and a

(09:44):
polish and we forgot all that calms basketball with their winners,
winning games, winning series, and then Lebron leaves in their
back to being who they are. In fact, you can
argue with the Lakers, they were a mess for seven
years and then Lebron came in and we all think,
now number one in the West Man, they really know
what they're doing. Not really, it's it's not a brilliantly
run organization. Lebron makes it look polished and refined. It's

(10:05):
still kind of a mess. Brady is sort of aspirational.
He's got sort of a Joel Ostein with a helmet quality,
like he's make a better life for yourself, and you know,
doesn't drink beer during the season, and he had sort
of a polish and a nice guy and a work
hard He's an overachiever, and he's a family guy and

(10:28):
he loves his kids, and he's kind of corny. He's
kind of a suburban, corny dad, joke guy. But he
added a polish to an organization that for the third
time in thirteen years sort of got caught cheating. But
if you take the polish out of New England, not

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very likable, not very likable. I mean Edelman got arrested
this offseason. Belichick's grumpy with a hoodie. Robert Krafft had
the Florida thing. Tom Brady and Lebron have an amazing
quality that they just beyond their great athletic skills. They

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add a certain gravitas, or a sense of aspiration and
greatness and polish and refinement. The Lakers aren't well run
right now. Lebron's great. The Cavaliers were never run well.
Lebron was great New England is about as likable as
the Sopranos without Brady. I mean, it's like there's a

(11:30):
lot of hoodies and a lot of grumpiness and a
lot of incidents and a lot of problems. And Edelman's
in trouble, and Craft got in trouble, and Belichick just
got his hand slapped, and Tomo has made his think well,
I know, but Tom to the rescue. He was like
a Captain America of football. You take him out, New

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England just kind of look shady, right. I think they're
gonna miss that. I think they're gonna miss I think
the Calves miss Lebron, not just the basketball, but the
organizational excellence in the stature of Lebron and the polish
of Lebron always says the right stuff. New England lost

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their shield, their nice guy there. Don't drink a beer
during the season guy. And if not for Cam Newton,
what would we be talking about this morning? Kind of
shady again, They're gonna miss that. Coming up next. For
all the nice things I say about Tom, he's either

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got the world's best timing or he's the luckiest guy
in the world. And I'll explain that coming up. Be
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know everything in life. It's it's a huge component to life.
Just luck, just timing. Tom Brady has really got good timing.
So Tom Brady, every year he was in New England,
it always felt like I must have done this story

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fifteen times. New England got a lucky schedule like it
was always like, how's their schedules? And they won their division.
It's the first place schedule. Tom Brady elects to leave.
Cam Newton comes in for the first time ever. New
England has the toughest NFL schedule in the entire Belichick era.
Go look at New England schedule next year. What Cam

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would have to play. We got to be fair with
Cam here, so they play out of division. They play
the Seahawks at the Chiefs at the Seahawks forty nine Ers,
Ravens at the Texans at the Rams. Last year, those
teams had a combined record of sixty nine and twenty seven.
They also play out of their division, the Broncos, Cardinals, Charger,
and I think both join. I well, I think some
of this. I think those are the three most improved

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teams in the league this year. I think I think
Denver and the Chargers are gonna look totally different. And
I think the Rams have sort of solved their offensive
line issues in the girly tension locker room issue. You
gotta be kidding me. I mean, that's what. This is
the toughest schedule in the NFL, according to the people
who look at the winning percentages from last year plus Brady.

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The entire time Brady was in the division, the Buffalo,
the Jets, Miami were running through coaches, a lot of
bad coaches. He leaves, and it looks like Sean McDermott
co to the Bills and Brian Flores coach of the Dolphins.
It kind of looks like, h finally grown ups. These
guys are going to be around forever. We also now

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have Josh Allen Darnold and Tua I think's gonna pop.
And the whole time Brady was there, it was a
revolving door coaches and just bad quarterback play. And meanwhile, Tom,
maybe this was a he seguays to a division where
Carolina is in a rebuild, Atlanta's got a lame duck coach,

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and Drew Brees has what a year left? Taysom Hills
the next guy like, maybe it's all planned by Tom.
Maybe he looked at the schedule and went whoo at Seattle,
at Kansas City, Ravens, I got no weapons, I'm out
of here. Or maybe Brady as the greatest luck of
any player of my life. Joy Taylor of the News, No,

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no on the this is the Herd Line News. So
Norv's turner was the last person who called plays for
Cam Newton and Carolina, and he told Albert Brier that
Bill Belichick called him this offseason to talk about the
former MVP. NORV gave Cam a glowing review and he
doesn't think his health would be a problem moving forward.
He says, when Cam was healthy and we were there

(15:48):
with him in twenty and eighteen, we were six and two.
Just look at the tape played his ass off. His
issue was more health than anything else. And for what
I understand, I don't think these health issue. These are
health issues he can't overcome. He's had a time off.
Now I think it'll be great. I think it'll be
really good for Cam and I think it'll be good
for the Patriots. Yeah, there's been a lot of people
in the NFL. I talked to a GM about six
months ago and he said, if you watched Cam play,

(16:09):
something was wrong with his shoulder, right, you just look
at it. Something's wrong. So is that better? I don't know,
but I'll tell you this. When you watch all these videos,
he looks spry, he looks he looks a little thinner,
he looks athletic. Again, he's got to pop to everything.
So good for him. Well, I mean, he had surgery
on his foot recently, so it's if he was rehabbing

(16:30):
his shoulder, he wasn't having to put that through any
extra stress. He has had a lot of time off.
When it comes to these injuries, especially with football, you
don't really ever have the time off, especially at that
position because you're rushing back. So rest is is important,
is coming back and testing out whatever is injured from
your body as well, because there is a little bit
of a mental aspect to coming back from these surgeries

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as well. So I think this is a great move
for the Patriots. Obviously, you and I were on the
same page about Jared said, I'm just completely not convinced.
Turns out maybe we were a little ride oh the
roding Cam Newton. So but this is exciting for me,
Like I did not see this coming, just because I
didn't Patriots, I didn't. This is did not see this coming.
But Bill Belichick, he's always got to check up his hoodie,

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and this this one shocked me yesterday. I mean, we're look,
we are looking for content too, and it's like the Patriots,
Tom Brady, Cam Newton have been the gift of this
this time for us. Who was I telling this too
this morning? The league's better with Caminet, of course, It's
why I'm such a big cam fan. He is and
some people just have a little extra on them. They're

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just stars. We like them. They're energetic, they're they have
a gravitational pool about them, and you can't explain it's
this this X factor. When Cam is healthy and is
playing at a high level, the league is more fun.
And it's also he's polarizing, and leagues need villains, leagues
need teams to root against. I mean, like I always say,

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Baseball is better when the Yankees are great because then
have to sport hates them, like it's okay for you know,
it's great when Ohio State wins because the South the
Cowboys are great. Yes, just like Cam's got Baker Mayfield.
People think I hate him. He's great for my show.
He's great for the league. He's getting people to take
I like athletes. People take sides on Westbrook, people don't
like him. How many segments of it done on Westbrook?

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You take sides on him. He's a polarizing guy for sure.
But I'm in an impossible spot now because I thought
I was done with having to watch the Patriots or
even have to pay attention to them. Now they're going
to be competitive if Cam comes in healthy, like this
is supposed to be the Bill's year, supposed to be
like the AFC's have finally taken a turn Bill. All right,
So the NFC South has some strong quarterback talent in

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it this season, and Matt Ryan is going to be
facing teams led by Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Teddy Bridgewater.
But he's confident in his abilities. He was asked on
pardon my take if he thought he was the best
quarterback in the division right now, and he said currently. Yeah.
He also thinks they would win win around twelve games.
That's pretty comm in his squad this year. Well, he's

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a good player, he's a what is Bucky Brooks always
said he's there's tractors and trailers like he needs to
be pulled a little bit. He's not gonna pull average.
But you know, Atlanta, to the organization's credit, he's had
pretty good weapons. They do have great weapons. They've always
given Maddie pretty good weapons to play with. As I mean,

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we don't none of us really have a good gauge
on what Todd Gurley is. But if Todd Gurley gets
back to ninety percent of what Todd Gurley was before
all these injuries, we're just forgetting that he's there now
because we didn't like what he's how it ended with
the Rams, But Todd Gurley could be a huge X
factor for them this year. This division is just gonna
be crazy. Yeah, it's gonna it's the best quarterback division
of my life. There is if Teddy Bridgewater's the worst quarterback,

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that's the best, that's the best, fourth best quarterback. And
also Teddy's got Matt Rule and Christian McCaffrey and DJ
Moore and Curtis Samuel. It's like, that's gonna be a
very good offense and that's the fourth best team in
the division. It's really impressive. So the NBA released the
schedules for the seating games in Orlando. The restart will
kick off Thursday, July thirtieth with the Jazz and the Pelicans,

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followed by the Lakers and the Clippers. The Lakers did
not catch any breaks in Orlando. They have the third
toughest schedule based on the opponent's winning percentage, but Zion
has a great chance of getting the Pelicans into the
playoffs with the easiest schedule, So these are for the
playoff play in games right it's finished the season, and
beside the seating Pelicans have the Jazz, the Clippers, the Grizzlies,

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King's Wizards, Spurs, Kings, and Magic and the toughest schedules
are the Raptors, Heat, Lakers, Nuggets, Showblazers, and Grizzlies Pelicans
are trying to catch the Grizzlies for the last spot,
so I just they end up seeing Zion in the playoffs. Office.
I have a weird feeling Portland's gonna under deliver, Like
Damian Letard has been cool on the whole thing, and
Memphis is so excited to be given this opportunity. There's

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my upset. In the first round, Memphis knocks off Portland.
I just I'm really looking forward to this, but I
really have I'm not comfortable predicting anything that's going to
happen down there because there's so many X factors in
this restart that it could really it could be anyone's
championship at this point, because there's so many different things
that I did. Like Adam Silver, who came out late

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last week and acknowledged, listen, this bubble. Things not perfect,
but we were not built not to play like this
with this virus. We don't have a vaccine. So you
can shut down all the businesses again, but like our
country's economy cannot take that. We have to shut down bars,
but you can't shut down all restaurants again. So about
Adam Silver, you know, they said, listen, we're gonna have
to get through this. We're gonna have players to get this.

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This is the reality of this. Thank god, we have
great therapy to help, great doctors. Have to manage it.
You have to just manage this thing. Like when this
whole thing started with COVID, if you suggested four months ago,
we're not going to solve this, let's manage it, it
was outrageous, like you lacked empathy. Now commissioners are acknowledging
we're just managing this thing, which has been not that

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I'm right on this because I don't know anything about it,
but health crises in my life. Nobody solves suicide, Nobody
solves all We can't solve the flu, so why we
have a flu shot. We can't even solve it. So
you just go into this thing. You have all the therapeutics,
all the doctors, you try to socially distance, wear masks,
and if nine percent of the players get it, hopefully
in an outboom, they're doing the best that they can.

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And the player's safety is very important to them. It's
not like they're rushing through that part of it. Good stuff,
Joy with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks
for stopping by. The herd Line News. You know it's
interesting about Cam. I was thinking about this. So he
signs a one year deal with the Patriots. It is remarkable.

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Everybody's always romanticizing the past and excited for the future,
but sometimes you just have to own what we have.
And it is amazing the quarterback plan this league we have.
I was going to do this. We have like eight
different categories of quarterbacks in this league now, and I
mean from the board reclamation project Ryan Tannehill to the

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young and small and fascinating Kyler Murray Cam back in.
This is just ask yourself, is it an interesting story? Hell? Yes,
then it's great for the league. I mean, it's just
it's what Now the good guys are playing longer, the
young guys are better sooner. It used to be like
it was kind of like you got good at twenty
seven to about thirty three and then you were done.

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Now we got guys at twenty two that are popping,
guys at forty two that can still play. This business
model has just expanded, and so I think Cam's just
a fascinating story. And if Ryan Tannehill, if his reclamation
project works, you can't you can't quit on Cam yet
if Ryan Tannehill can go and win games with a

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different staff, then Cam can. I don't think it's New
England long term, but I think this is going to
expand the opportunities for him. Let's bring in Albert Breer
via the Coward Global Satellite Network, brought to you by
Mercedes Ben's the Best or Nothing Monday Morning Quarterback. So
let's start with this. Albert. How long was this in
the works? Well, I can tell you that the Pages

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have been making calls on him for a couple of months.
It intensified over the last few days. But Bill Belichick
talked to Norv Turner and some other coaches who've worked
with Cam, i'd say in March and April, and it
was sort of one of those things that was a
slow burn on the table for them. And then i'd
say over the last couple of weeks or so, some
of the Patriots offensive assistants started making calls on Cam

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and the people around Cam started to get the idea
this thing could happen. Does it mean New England's out
on Jarrett Stidham. Not necessarily. I don't think they're going
to hand the job to Cam Newton. That said, I
think Cam's clearly the favorite for the job. Now they're
gonna make him learn it. What's so fascinating about this,
Colin is they basically spent the entire offseason preparing Jared

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Stidham to be the starter, putting him through all that,
developing him as a young quarterback, giving him personal attention,
and now on the doorstep of training camp, they're giving
him competition. They've got him under contract for another couple
of years they can continue to develop him. So in
a lot of ways, this is sort of giving Stidham
some competition. You see, if he's ready, chances are you

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going with Cam? Maybe he wows you. If he doesn't,
You've got a great answer from writing for right now.
And either way, you're throwing multiple darts at the dartboard.
Don't forget that's how the Seahawks found Russell Wilson ten
years ago. They struck out on a lot of guys
Pete Carroll and John Schneider did before they found Wilson,
Guys like Matt Flynn, Charlie Whitehurst. That's basically what the

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Patriots are doing now. They're throwing multiple darts at that
quarterback dartboard. So I'll tell you where. I'm not pessimistic,
but I have questions. This offense does not have a
deep thread, doesn't really have a proven tight end. I
don't think it's one of the more talented old lines
in Dante' Scarnekia retired. It is not an offense built

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for easy touchdowns. It is going to need eleven play drives, fumbles,
no penalties. Now, Cam is dynamic, but he has not
always been consistent and efficient. It feels a little bit
like you're asking Cam to be what he's not instead
of saying, hey, be yourself, you know, do what you do,
be dynamic. I don't think they have the pieces around him,

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regardless of how good Cam is to be special. Is
that a fair Devil's advocate take? This is going to
test them, Colin and I get all of your points right.
I'm gonna take you back two years to twenty and eighteen.
The Patriots were looking at Lamar Jackson. They really liked
Lamar Jackson. They toyed with the idea of drafting Lamar Jackson.
Part of the discussion in that room was, we would

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really need to blow up what we are offensively and
what we've been offensively for almost two decades to make
this work for Lamar Jackson. Go back two years before that.
Look at what they did for Jacoby Brissette. You may
remember he started on a Thursday night, basically on three
days notice, they were able to flip their offense upside
down and run a totally different offense to accommodate joke

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Obie Brissette. They beat the Houston Texans sixteen to nothing
that night, And so I get all the points that
you're making. No one is better at tailoring a offense
or a defense to what he's got on each side
of the ball than Bill Belichick is. We've seen it.
It's just about every other position on the field. We
haven't seen it so much at quarterback. Now we'll get

(27:20):
to see it at quarterback. But I promise you, if
Cam Newton's the starter, the Patriots are going to look
a lot different offensively than they have the last twenty
years with Tom Brady. So the Cam Newton announcement came,
you know, seventeen minutes after the cheating, the fuzzy shady
situation with the filming of the Bengals practice. The skeptic

(27:42):
in me says, they kind of did that on purpose. Right, Yeah,
I don't. I don't think you're I don't think you're
a way off, babe. I think there was probably some
attention there, you know. Look like I even believe their story, Like,
I think this was an honest mistake. But if you're
the New England Patriots, Colin, what is the one piece
of equipment that you cannot be caught doing anything nefarious

(28:02):
with the cameras? It's a video camera. This is like
the Astros getting caught doing something with a drum, right,
So I think the league looks at this and has
to say, well, we got to do something here. And
I think what's most interesting about it, Look, the one
point one million dollar penalty is certainly significant, even if
it is a drop in the bucket for Robert Kraft.
I think the draft pick part of this is really

(28:24):
really important because the Patriots had pushed for this to
be seen as sort of a non football violation. By
adding the draft pick in, they're basically telling Patriots football
operations you are responsible for this. So that was sort
of the interesting twist there. But I do believe on
the surface that this was an honest mistake, and I
also understand where the league has to come down on

(28:45):
them for this because of their history. By the way,
Demorris Smith, Players Association President says, the Tom Brady stuff,
the Russell Wilson stuff working out is not healthy. To that,
I would say it may not be healthy, but it
is about winning, and so Wilson and tom Brady, this
is who they are many they're driven cats. I mean,
what are you hearing behind the scenes? Is the league

(29:07):
really bothered by it? Or is it one of these
eye rolls like they want to pretend like they're bothered.
I mean, I think it's, you know, basically a message
to the public that we are taking this seriously, the
same way the protocols were. You know, you got those
nine pages of training camp protocols, and I think a
lot of the teams said, well, this is basically a
press release. This is a signal to the public that
they're taking COVID very very seriously and that we're all

(29:30):
going to have to adjust as we go. But some
of the stuff in the protocols weren't practical, and it's
also probably not practical in such a competitive environment to
tell quarterbacks not to gather all of their skill position
players people in one place and get to work if
they know everybody else is working. And this is happening everywhere.
We saw Dad do it earlier in the offseason. Matt

(29:51):
Stafford has done this a couple of times. Matt Ryan,
I'm telling you. Colin basically ran a nine week off
season program for the Falcons in both California and Florida.
And most recently, Kyler Murray paid for all the cardinal
skill position players to fly to Dallas. They all worked
out at his high school, Alan High School for a
few days. So this is happening across the NFL. It's

(30:12):
such a competitive environment. I think the NFL knows there's
no stopping it, but they have to at least signal
to the public that they are taking these things serious.
By the way, when does Cam report to New England?
He goes. He goes NFC to AFC, warm weather to
cold weather, totally different environment. When're you gonna show up
in New England? Well, he would. The report date for
quarterbacks is going to be a few days before the

(30:35):
report date for everybody else. But the Patriots open on
the first Sunday of the regular season, and all the
teams that start in that first Sunday have a report
date of July twenty eighth, So July twenty eighth would
be the veteran report date. My guests would be that
Cam Newton would be in probably sometime less than a
week before that. Yeah, it's gonna looks so different in
the Patriot uniform. It's just crazy. Albert great stuff, Monday

(30:57):
Morning Quarterback lead stratagist, covered the NFL for fifteen years. Thanks,
but appreciate it all right, Thanks going top of the hour.
Colin right, Colin wrong. Some thoughts. You know, there's so
many different angles on Cam Newton. I want to address
another one and why we should all just sit back
and be thankful, incredibly thankful on what we're seeing now.
It's a revolution in football and it's awesome that's coming up.

(31:21):
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feet and the shoulder check out. Well, I did have
a general manager or three. Tell me if you looked
at film last year at Cam, something's wrong with his shoulder.

(31:43):
It wasn't right as mechanics, and as mechanics have always been.
He's a little like Matt Stafford that when your arm
is that good, you know, you get a little sloppy,
you know, because Cam can throw off his back foot
and Stafford can throw off his back foot, and Stafford's
mechanics have always been hot and old. When he's on,
he's on. But he kind of, you know, when you're gifted,

(32:05):
sometimes things come easy, and there are throws for Cam
and Stafford that kind of come easy. You know. Brady
has to have flawless mechanics. He's getting old. He doesn't
have a huge arm. So the guys that have to
have great arms, you know. Again, Drew Brees has to
have perfect mechanics because that's not a cannon. So I
think one thing we have to come to terms with

(32:27):
is we are living in a time like I've never
seen in the NFL. For quarterbacks, we have so many
different categories of quarterbacks. In the seventies, eighties and the
mid nineties, quarterbacks kind of looked and all played the same.
I mean, Steve Young was crazy. He was left handed
and moved around. Right now, we've got these young, dynamic guys.

(32:47):
We've got like Tyler Murray and Lamar Jackson, to Shaun Watson.
They're like playmakers. And then we've got these guys with
cannon arms, Josh Allen Mahomes, Carson Wentz. Then we've got
these legendary old guys who are going to be first
ballot Hall of Famers and own the record book, Brady Breeze,

(33:07):
Big Ben. Then we've got these middle age guys who
are really all time talents, Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson.
Then we've got stat compilers that we know they get
a bunch of numbers, but they drive us nuts, like
Matt Ryan kirk Cousins, Matt Stafford, Like, Okay, I get it.
You get all the numbers, but you don't win enough.

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Then we've got the guys that do win a lot,
aren't always stat compilers, but we're still criticizing them. You know,
Dak Prescott and Jimmy Garoppolo and Jared Goff, like they're winning,
they're getting the Super Bowls, they're winning divisions and we're
not really into them. And then the other guys are
stat compilers who have great stats, but we're not really
into them. We have a reclamation project that we all

(33:50):
gave up on, Ryan Tannehill and you're like, hell, he's
in the AFC Championship. And then we have Cam Newton
and Cam sort of his own category. You know, it's
Cam is without talking about politics, he's sort of political.
You can't convince the Trump fans anything's wrong with him,
and you can't convince the Biden critics anything's right with him.

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People will find what they want and gravitate to it.
And that's where I feel like Cam is very much that.
Cam Newton, if you love him, is going to give
you enough glimpses of what you love about him, and
you're gonna see, say Brady couldn't do that, she did him.
And if you're not into Cam, and I'm not a

(34:34):
huge Cam fan, He's gonna give me plenty of opportunities
to go wide open guy in the flat red zone, touchdown,
blew it. Cam gives you whatever side you're on with Cam,
he gives you enough ammunition to love him or hate him.
So nobody that doesn't like Cam is gonna like him
by the end of this year, and nobody that loves

(34:55):
him is not gonna like him. So Cam is kind
of his own polarizing political self. He's very Westbrook to me,
like Westbrook can't shoot. It's a shooters league. I'll always
have that. But then you'll have nights when he scores
thirty eight and I'll be like, Okay, he pretty much
won the game single handedly. Now I've said it before,

(35:18):
is that there are certain quarterbacks that just drive me crazy.
Baker Mayfield, a Jay Cutler has this quality Cam Newton
where it depends on the quarter, or the day or
the series, it's uneven. I'm never sure what I get.
I tend to prefer the Andrew Luck Russell Wilson. I
know what I get physically, I know what I get emotionally,

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I know what I get in effort every single play.
Andrew Luck's not perfectly threw too many picks, you know.
Russell Wilson's not the elegant thrower of Patrick Mahomes. But
that's just the quarterback I like. I like the quarterback
where I know what I'm getting physically, emotionally effort on
every play. Baker Cutler ham drive me nuts. It would

(36:01):
be very hard for me as a GM to sign
him or a coach to coach him. I just don't
know what I get. But nobody that likes Cam's not
gonna like him after this New England experiment. Nobody that
doesn't like him is gonna love him after the New
England experiment because he doesn't have enough good players around
him here to win twelve games. They just don't have
enough good players. I mean they really don't. Last year,
everybody was like, oh, their defense is special, and then
they started playing better teams down the stretch in their

(36:22):
defense one nuts special. Buffalo's defense was special. So I
think we are so lucky though we've got so many
unique categories of quarterbacks. The young guys are better than
ever and better sooner than ever. The old guys are
better than ever and lasting longer. And then we've only

(36:43):
got about two guys right in the middle that are
absolute low Hall of famers, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers. And
we've got a couple guys around him that will get votes,
Matt Ryan, maybe Matt Stafford. I doubt it. But I
think the cam thing is Joy likes him, and so
she's gonna find a lot of moments. I'm gonna come
in on a Monday and go, yeah, he won the game,
he just did crazy stuff. You've got a huge arm.

(37:04):
And then there's gonna be mondays, I'm gonna come in
and say, you know, he's eighteen and thirty four and
missed like four open guys. I will say this the people.
I I don't think Cam has a huge market, but
I do think if he gets the Belichick stamp of
approval and he's healthy and takes him to eight and eight,
let's just say you're not right, he's gonna be great,

(37:25):
and I'm not great. I'm not right, and let's just
meet in the middle. They're nine and seven and don't
make the playoffs, because let's be honest about it. Buffalo's
got a better roster, Baltimore's got a way better roster,
Pittsburgh's got a better roster, The Chargers have a better roster.
Kansas City, he's got a way better roster. Did I
say Balto? Cleveland's got a way better roster. Houston. I

(37:46):
think he's got issues, but a way better roster. So
I think it's very possible that Cam goes like eight
and eight, nine and seven, they missed the playoffs, but
I do think his market expands. Then there's about three
teams that go, listen, we don't have our guy. You know,
he looked pretty good. God, New England's got no wide
receivers and no tight ends, and if we put them
with our guys, somebody will talk themselves into Cam. I

(38:09):
think if Cam's not great, but he's focused, he's healthy,
and it's a new look for him. He now has
to fit into New England. Carol Lena doesn't have to
fit into Cam. And I think if he comes in headdown,
works hard, good teammate, I think you're going to see
an expanded market for him. I don't know if jameis
Winston or Nick Foles, it'd be hard to convince me.

(38:31):
There's a lot of guys in the room saying yeah,
But I think Cam's kind of got that appeal in
that style Stylistically, I think if he pops a little,
I don't think he has to be great for them.
If you told me today, Cam goes all throw numbers out.
They don't have much at wide receiver and tight end.
If Cam goes twenty three touchdowns, eleven picks, sixty one

(38:56):
and a half percent completion percentage, they go nine and seven.
Is passer rating is ninety one. He's gonna get offers
and he's healthy, He's not limping off the field. And
that maybe with that offensive personnel that may be about it.
He's a little more accurate, a little more efficient. He's
not gonna pop for thirty five touchdown passes. They don't

(39:17):
have any freebee touchdowns on this roster, like they don't
have any. But you know what, he and nikkil Harry
may actually generationally, stylistically, they may work better together than
Tom Brady and Nikil Harry. We'll see on that good
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(39:58):
number two and this is the Hurt. Wherever you may
be and however you may be listening. We're on iHeartRadio,
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with Cam and covered Cam, will be joining us in
fifteen minutes. Aaron Jones great running back to the Green
Bay Packers joined us in an hour and fifteen minutes,
all fired up for him. Yeah, I don't you know.
I watched all these athletes trained and I'm like, you know,

(40:20):
we're croathletes. I mean, just Albert Breer said that Matt
Ryan's had a nine week camp. It's like, is what
it is? Man? You can't ask You can't ask people.
They don't you know, if Tom Brady was going from
practice to nursing homes, I'd be like, that's irresponsible. Tom
Brady hanging out with his family that doesn't have COVID,
hanging out with an hour and a half every day
with players who are getting tested and don't have it.

(40:41):
It's not like he's going out to applebs and bars
late night and homework homework, young athletes, best shape in
the world. Maybe you've got more empathy than I do.
As long as we're not jamming people into nursing homes.
And there's like four or five places that are really
problematic meatpacking plans, boats, cruises, churches, indoors. That stuff worries me.

(41:03):
But pro athletes you got to be kind of an alpha.
You gotta be kind of aggressive to be a pro athlete.
You ever watch UFC fighters. I watched them this weekend.
They see the world differently. They're going to a ring
to beat on each other, and it's like they're wired
differently than I am, And then most of us are.
Joey Taylor is joining me, Joy, how are you? I'm good?
I mean, it's they're also not doing anything illegal. If
it was if we were still in the stay at

(41:25):
home orders and no one was supposed to be around
each other and they were out doing this, I would
have a big problem with it because everyone is supposed
to be home. Yeah, but we're not quarantined anymore. But
the other thing I always hear is, you know Tom
Brady is sending a bad message. I'm a grown up.
Do you think, oh Tom's not wearing a mask, I
won't wear one. Well, unfortunately, everyone doesn't think like that.

(41:46):
They don't know, they don't, they do not Some people
really actually just don't wear masks because they see other
people not wearing masks. Because as crazy as that is,
I know, it doesn't make anything. I went for a
run yesterday, for instance. I don't wear one when I
run because I'm flying by people, I'm moving around him.
If I see him I especially if I see older
people on a walk where I'm running. I make sure
social distance, stay away from other people. If you can,

(42:09):
am irresponsible next to people indoors wear a mask. I
wear it to best Buy, I wear it to the
grocery store. I wear it to the pharmacy. Of course.
I went for a run yesterday and I'm flying down
and I can't breathe, and it's it's like I went
with a buddy who I know doesn't have it because
we've been tested, and we went for a run and
I saw old people. I just moved seven feet away.
Plus I kind of put my you know, I angle
my head. Life I see somebody, I'll kind of turn

(42:30):
the other way. Am I irresponsible? I don't think so.
You know why. I think we're all supposed to be
taking care of each other in this time. So wearing
a mask when you're in close quarters. You know what
the doctors are telling us to do? Just do that.
It's really simple. Are you doctor? No, I'm not a doctor,
So what are the doctor's heels to do? Just do that?
All right? It's Colin right, Colin wrong. I'm plenty of

(42:50):
both on a Monday. Oh is it this time. Here
we go where Colin was right. Well, clearly Jarrett Stidham
is not blowing everybody away, despite what everybody is claiming
for the last six months, even people I like. Listen,
they wanted to bring back Tom Brady at forty three
off his worst year in a long time, and they
brought in Cam for a reason. Belichick's seen every snap
of Jarret Sidham. He's obviously not blown away by it.

(43:13):
I watched Stidham in college. He was okay. Teen touchdowns
at Auburn. They had plenty of NFL guys on the
old line, running back, tied end, and wide receiver. He's fine.
My guess is Jarret Stidhim will end up being a
career backup. But all this chatter and talk about how
Grady was, Belichick keeps telling you how Grady thinks he is,
and that ain't much where Colin was wrong. Cam Newton

(43:33):
to New England doesn't feel like an ideal fit. I
think it's interesting, and I'm in the interesting business. I
would have just just didn't. A lot of people suggested this,
by the way, I just never bought into it. It
just didn't feel like a right fit New England's system.
Is kind of rigid, details efficiency, low turnover. You know
they win by defense. You know Cam's dynamic and it's

(43:56):
a risk taker and a big arm. And it doesn't
feel like he fits them or their personnel fits his style.
I mean they don't. They don't have a cheap touchdown
on that roster. So it's a weird fit, but it's
a fit. And I was wrong where Colin was right.
I am a big believer in the forty nine ers
and I love hyper aggressive teams. And last week they

(44:16):
went after Jamal Adams of the Jets. Reportedly, two different
sources Niners would like to make a deal for the
star safety for New York. Listen. They have been aggressive
on Jimmy Garoppolo. They signed him before anybody bought into him.
They've been aggressive with Trent Williams. They're aggressive now with
Deforce Buckner. They moved him. Aggressive wins in the forty
nine ers not only play aggressively, they operate aggressively. I

(44:38):
think John Lynch has come in and much like John
Lynch was as a player and I covered him, John
Blue stuff up and apologize later. And San Francisco has
taken a wildly aggressive stance on how to run a franchise,
and I really love it where Colin was wrong. I

(44:59):
like this, but I'm shocked by it. Major League Baseball
for the next sixty games in the postseason will allow
a runner to start at second base and extra innings.
It is gimmicky, it is sticky. I'm for it, but
this is a sport that's paralyzed by tradition that struggled
for years to get instant replay right, and for them

(45:23):
to go, yeah, we're gonna do this thing that we're
gonna did. We tried it in the minor leagues, and
we're just gonna start a guy at second base so
we don't have these seventeen inning laughably in baseball games
in the middle of a week where the game ends
at one forty five in the morning. I don't think
it's a bad idea. I don't think the universal DH

(45:45):
is surprising. That was going to happen eventually. Baseball guys
were coming to terms with its fifteen more jobs for
sluggers and old, well known players. DH should be in baseball.
Who wants to watch pitchers hit? It's awful. It's like
watching punter's pass. What's the point where Colin was right.
Zion Williamson. What do you know? He got the easiest

(46:05):
schedule in the NBA. Well, what do you know? Zion
Williamson also will be the first game back on July thirtieth.
Who's going to be in it? Not the Lakers, Zion Williamson.
You ever notice how the critics got very quiet on Zion.
They were just picking him apart. He can't shoot, he's
not big enough, he's not ready. This here's what he is.

(46:26):
A star, unique body, unique game, unique power. He's just
a fascinating kid. And he was so incredibly likable at Duke.
I mean, we all knew he was gonna last one year,
and he came out and said, no, I'm gonna play
through my injury, and I'd really come back and play

(46:47):
another year. I love college basketball, but you know everybody
tells me, I gotta go pro. You can't define star.
I mean, like Magic Johnson, the game, the name helped.
Some guys just pop. Other guys are good, but don't pop.
The NBA gets it. Let's get him into these games.
Let's get him up first, Let's highlight him, Let's put
him on television. Nothing against Brandon Ingram, but that's not

(47:08):
why they're playing first. It's Zion where Colin was wrong.
Not the only real criticism I've ever had of Adam Silver.
I think sometimes he needs to be more defiant and stronger,
and I've heard he is behind the scenes, but I
thought he did a Roger Goodell move and I actually
liked it. Last week and it surprised me. He came

(47:30):
out and he said, listen, COVID nineteen is with us
for the foreseeable future. We are left with no choice
but to learn and live with it, no options or
risk free. We're very comfortable in Orlando. And some media
people won't like it, and some players won't like it,
but this is exactly what the NFL is doing. We're
gonna roll the dice. It's not perfect, but these are

(47:51):
world class athletes, and if they do get COVID, we've
got the doctors, we've got the therapeutics. We cannot We're
not built the shut down the league. And by the way,
if the league got shut down, it would be horrible
for the players. The cap would plummet. The NBA owners
have her right if this season's canceled, to rip up
the CBA and start over. You want to have another lockout.

(48:14):
You don't want to. I mean, Lebron James is the
face of the league. You want him not playing now
and not playing next year. You gotta be strong, you
gotta be defiant. The chance of a player getting critically
ill is incredibly low, and life is full of risk.
And I applaud being wrong and Adam Silver being strong
on that where Colin was right. Lebron and Maverick Carter
on the cover of Bloomberg Business one hundred million dollars

(48:39):
deal for Springhill Entertainment. This is called the mogul stage.
I've been told by somebody close to Lebron he loves La,
He's never moving from La, that it's a perfect fit
for him. And though he's never loved basketball more, the
ability to make deals is exactly why he moved to

(49:02):
Los Angeles, where the big financiers and the cities have
all opened up their ears and their wallets to him.
This is exactly why he didn't choose the Sixers, who
had a better roster. For the record, I don't think
the Lakers are very well run right now. I still
think there's all sorts of issues. But this is exactly
why we thought the Lakers was the best fit. Where

(49:24):
Colin was rong. I've always defended Adam Gates of the Jets.
I think he's smart. I think he's intense. He had
a winning record with Ryan Tannehill in Miami thirteen and eleven,
and he had a winning record last year with Sam
Darnold who had no help and Mono and they got
the roster. Stinks, but boys, he toxic. Greg Williams last
week does not respect him enough to hide during the

(49:48):
Jamal Adams contract situation, Greg Williams, let me talk, ask
me questions. Oh you joy, Jamal Adams is leaking stuff
and firing shots at him. Listen, think he and Darnold work.
I think he's demanding, an intense and I think he's
a really smart football guy. I think he's got a
lot of Kyle Shanahan. But you know, maybe because I

(50:09):
like him, I don't see the toxicity as much. But
I mean, he just they're just certain people that drive
other people crazy, and this guy's got a lot of
enemies in that locker room and around this league. Where
Colin was right, I've always thought the fitting conclusion to
this Dak situation, it's a franchise tag. He's the perfect

(50:29):
franchise tag quarterback. Last year, he did not play well
down the stretch. He did not play well against good teams.
I think he was one in six against playoff teams.
Let's see him with McCarthy for a year. Well, we
got two weeks left and there was no more chatter
from Cowboy insiders of a contract. I have been hearing
about a contract for a year and a half, and

(50:50):
I've been saying the entire time Dallas pays everybody. We
know the numbers. Here, show me the money. I'm not
interested in anything else. Two weeks left now and it's
a franchise tag, and I think this is inevitable. I
think it's the right move. I don't think it's a
shot at DAK. I think there's concerns in the building
that the league's seen him, and there's limitations. I actually

(51:13):
do think he's gonna play pretty well with Mike McCarthy
and probably get a really tasty long term deal. But
as of now, I'm right on the contract which has
not materialized. Where Colin was right. Nobody manipulates rules and
the league quite like the Patriots. Seveneen minutes after New

(51:35):
England was tagged with a million point one dollar fine.
They signed Cam Newton. This is so New England, it hurts.
They knew this was going to be the story on
every talk show, which is not good for Robert Kraft
and the brand. So Robert Kraft says, anyway, you could
get this off the front page of every newspaper in America.
And what do the Patriots do, Well, it's just a crazy,

(51:56):
whacky coincidence. They signed Cam Newton. Now, I think they
were going to sign Cam Newton anyway, according to reports,
but seventeen minutes after the stories handed down. It's just
so Patriots. They I'm not saying it's they just manipulate
everything cameras and rules and footballs, and is just what

(52:18):
they do, all right. Jeff Schwartz knows Cam played with Cam,
understands Cam lives in the same town as Cam until
the next week. He's going to be joining us next.
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(53:02):
Schwartz played in the NFL for almost a decade. His
brother now is an elite offensive lineman a pro bowler
for the Kansas City Chiefs protecting Patrick Mahomes. And Jeff
Schwartz is joining me via the Coward Global Satellite Network
here on a Monday. All right, So you know Cam,
you play with him, you talk about him a lot.
He's a huge, huge I mean, listen, he is the

(53:24):
Panthers for the last eight to nine years. Now he's
going to be a one year deal for the Patriots.
It's a whole different feel, but let's start with this.
Do you think it works in New England? I think
it does work because both parties need to make it work, right.
Cam Newton needs us to go well because he wants
to revive his career. If he plays well in New England,

(53:44):
he can obviously resign with the Patriots, but go somewhere
else for a big, big contractor he can revive his
entire career doing this. And Bill Belichick wants to give
a middle finger to everyone who doesn't think he win
without Tom Brady. So both parties need to make this work.
It's just a one year deal. It's not a five
year deal, it's not a six year deal. It's a
one year deal. And both parties have a lot of

(54:04):
incentive to make this go as well as possible. So
I think it does work assuming this whole discussion basically
assuming Cam is healthy, right, because that's a big part
of this, and he's not healthy, it's not going to
go well. But if he is, I think it's a
great combination between the brains of Belichick, McDaniels, and what
Cam Newton can do as an athlete. From that position,

(54:24):
it feels like a little bit like an audition, Like
nobody thinks they're going to be married. It's the classic
Hollywood marriage, a lot of sizzle. None of us think
it's going to be around in twenty years. This feels
like an audition. Is that too cynical? Yeah, it's a
one year deal. I mean it's it's for the minimum.
I mean, I'm shocked. And how cheap they got him.
The leverage was obviously on the Patriots side here as

(54:45):
Cam warrant to start. It was very clear from the
beginning of Frenchie there were not a lot of places
for him to go and start, and New England was
one of them. So they got him for very cheap.
And yeah, it's a it's an audition, especially for Cam.
He's been hurt for the back half of twenty eighteen,
he was for most twenty nineteen. People are questioning his
health obviously after being hurt for that long, and this

(55:06):
is a huge deal for him. He goes to New England, right,
I mean, if you play well in New England, We've
seen what happens to Jimmy Garoppolo, to Matt Castle, to
guys that play well in New England, they get big
opportunities elsewhere. And if Camp can prove for the one
year that he can do it, he's gonna get paid
a lot of money next season by somebody. It might
be New England, it might still be in New England,
but he didn't get paid a lot of money somewhere. Yeah.

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I mean we saw Durell Reevas get paid out of
New England. We saw Dion Lewis, the running back get
paid out in New England. I mean that's that's the reality.
So here am I. I'm predicting the stats now. I
don't know if he starts week one because it may
be a situation where we have limited practices. Thirty one
hundred yards, twenty two tents, eleven picks, passer rating in
the eighty nine, completion percentage sixty one. He'll have better

(55:50):
protection than he's generally had, but he doesn't have any dynamic,
easy home run threats. You look at those numbers, what
do you make of it? That's my projection. In twenty eighteen,
he played with NORV Turner or this OC. We know
NORV Turner excellent OC for many years in the NFL.
It was the first time in his career he played
in a traditional, more traditional pro style type passing attack.

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The first eight weeks the year when he was healthy,
he completed sixty eight percent of his passes. So we've
seen him do it. I've been as hard as anybody
on cam News accuracy, especially in the Charlotte region where
people just don't want to hear anything. But Cam is
the greatest quarterback ever. But he convinced me in that
eight game sample size, small sample size, that he can
do it. He can play in an offense that is
more traditional, that does feature less down the field bombs

(56:33):
or is what Schula had in the offense for so
many years, and just more of a steady offense. And
he did that. So I think in this offense now,
that's what they've done for years with Tom Brady. Right,
you're just five yards, seven yards, eight yards, take a
shot here and there. I think he's gonna complete about
sixty seven percent of passes like he did. I don't
know how many yards he throws for touchdowns he runs
for or throws for. I mean that's kind of, you know,

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just depending on the weapons like you said that he
doesn't really have. But I think he will very functional
in this offense. And I do think they'll work in
some wrinkles with his legs. I don't think it's going
to be a part of the offense that people think
it will be. I think they'll use it very situationally,
but make sure to put him a situation where he
can succeed, and then they'll have some wrinkles off of it,
some cool play action passes, some trick plays. They always

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love trick plays. It'd be a lot of fun to
watch this connection as it begins to happen in camp. Okay,
so let me ask you this. There's gonna be people
in that building that have formed a relationship with Jared Stidham.
So Cam's not getting every snap. I mean, what does
this say about Stidham? Is it say Stidham was always
a smoke screen and Belichick doesn't like him. I kind

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of thought it was. I mean, look at the history
of the NFL. I know Tom Brady's the outlier, Russell
Wilson is Dak Prescott, but most franchise quarterbacks are in
the first or second round. And I never bought Stidham
as being the guy. One thing they consider here that
it's very unique to just this offseason is you look
at Cam Newton as a veteran, right, he's seen it all.
He has not playing this offense, But coming into training

(57:58):
camp this year, you're gonna have probably less practice time
just because of a ramp up period to get guys
in shape. You're gonna have possibly only two preseason games.
You're gonna need a guy to play positions, not just
a quarterback for New England. But there'll be spots around
the league where veterans get the nod because they know
what they're doing right. Stidham has not been the building
the entire offseason, get the training camp. Who do you

(58:19):
trust it to be ready to play? Do you trust
Cam New who's done it for so many years and
who's won an MVP or Jared Stidham, who's stown a
handful of passes in the NFL. I trust Cam New
to be ready to play Week one. It's unique to
this offseason. If it was a different offseason, I'd say, Hey, look,
maybe Sidham's the guy, But I do think day one,
if Cam is healthy again, big, if that he will
be the starter Day one. Who get the first scraps

(58:41):
with the ones? You know it's I said, Tom Brady's
got to be the luckiest guy in the world. So
his entire stay in New England, it always felt like
they got scheduling breaks. Yeah, this year, for the first
time in the Belichick era, first time, it's the toughest
schedule in the NFL at Seattle at Kansas City Ravens Texans,
and then they face a bunch team to I think
are going to be massively improved Denver Chargers Arizona. Yeah.

(59:04):
I look at this and I think to myself, the
timing is a little suspicious. Do you think possibly Brady
looked at that and thought, we got no weapons. I'm
not gonna face that offensive juggernaut. What do you make
of that schedule for cam Oh, I'm sure that Tom
Brady looked at that. The guy looks at everything in
his life. Every detail of this life is thought about.

(59:25):
Guarantee you looked at the schedule. It's tough, right, I mean,
they finally go to Kansas City after three years of
the Chiefs coming to them. That's obviously a big game there.
The Bills are going to be better. I don't know
about the Jets. I have faith in Sam Darnold, but
not really the coaching staff there. The Texans are going
to be tough as well. I'm not sure the Rams'
I don't really buy the Rams this year. Chargers could
be good depending on what happens. It's a tough schedule,

(59:45):
I mean it really is. But I get Bill Belichick.
I get Cam Newon health again, I have to say healthy,
Cam Newon. I like their chances, but I'm never gonna
bet against the Patriots. You don't make money betting against them,
and I'm not gonna do it now until proven otherwise.
By the way, Tom Brady's practicing, Albert Breyer told us
an hour ago Matt Ryan had a nine week camp.
Russell Wilson's putting out videos take me to how an

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NFL player thinks with this pandemic, training and going against
what the league wants them to do guideline wise, Well,
first of all, most NFL players feel invincible in general, right,
So I think the general feeling is, hey, obviously there's
a pandemic happening. We have to protect my family and
loved ones. But personally me, personally, I'm not going to

(01:00:31):
get sicker. If I am, I won't show symptoms. I'm
gonna go out and train, because look, training camp starts
in about a month from now approximately. You cannot use
the excuse of Hey, the pe told me I can't
work out with my friends, I wasn't ready to play.
That doesn't fly with teams. So guys right now, in
their head their heart. They know that they have a
month till camp. They know they have to prepare to

(01:00:52):
get ready to play on the first day training camp.
And that's why you see Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson. Obviously
you mentioned Brady. Other guys are on the NFL that
are working out together that you know they are getting right,
you have to do this. I think that you're you
can't tell I mean, you can't tell them, but they're
not going to listen to that. They have to play.
Tom Brady knows one month from now when Cam starts,

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he has to be ready to go from day one
to get ready to play in the first game. And
I think that an every player I would have done
this too. I would be working out, they wouldn't getting
ready to go. I would think to myself, hey man,
I'm gonna take the precautious needed to not get sick
and make it work. Yeah. By the way, last week
the graphics department here who were strongly considering replacing I

(01:01:35):
said during my morning meeting, I said there was a
story out about Dwayne Haskins and I said, the five
most catchable balls in the NFL. Well, they put up
the top five arm talents and the Internet exploded, and
I said, it's not an armed talent argument. It's they
throw incredibly catchable balls. I said, Wilson, Brady, Breeze, Kyler Murray,

(01:01:55):
Jared Goff. The Internet imploded because I didn't have a
guy in Kansas City on it? What did you make him?
My list? Any list of a positive quarterback trait that
doesn't include Pat Mahomes is not an accurate list. He
gives everything. I mean catchable ball, mean, he's on the
back of his foot throwing the ball to Tyree Hill.
I mean obviously the throw here to walk in. There

(01:02:17):
was a throw against Baltimore this year. When he's backing up,
he hits a guy. I mean, I think that obviously.
Any list that I mean he just from now until
he retires, Any list that that there is just just
like you put Russell Wilson and Tom Brady on every
list you have, Pat Mahomes is on is on every
single one of them as well. I mean, this guys,
it's unbelievable to watch him, to watch him play. He
just doesn't he he just can sling him, man. I

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mean even last year when his when his kind of
feet were messed up and his ankle was messed up
and his knee, and then he just still found a
way to make it work. And obviously in the playoffs
he was healthy. And we see all the all the
throws he made here him. It's incredible. But these balls
so's so beautiful. By the way, congrats on your new
pool for your family. Looked like, oh, it's the perfect time.

(01:03:01):
I'm so glad we put it right before this started
and now it's ready. It's awesome. Thank you. Where to go. Congratulations.
Jeff Schwartz, former NFL offensive lineman, and Joey Taylor now
joining us with the news. No, no turn on the news.
This is the herd Line News. I believe. Jeff retweeted

(01:03:21):
the list and said, did Pat Mahomes retire? Yeah? Listen,
that was his initial reaction. The graphics department is reeling
right now. I felt for you a little bit. I
tried to defend you. Oh you did. Yeah. I asked
everyone to stop yelling at you and started yelling at me.
And you said that I was trending for like a
half hour in America. Yeah. Yeah. People were very upset

(01:03:41):
with you. People are not upset about the Cam Newton signing.
He's getting another chance in the NFL with the Patriots
this year. Players around the league reacted to the news
when it broke yesterday. Couldn't be happier for Cam Newton.
Patriots are getting a stud from greg Olsen. Odell tags
Cam and says you've been working, you deserve that. Swea
but crying emojis. Cam Jordan said, we all saw it

(01:04:04):
coming the AFC issues. Now healthy Newton is gonna be
a problem, and then Jamal Adams said, I salute coach
Bill Belichick for that. That's real. Congratulations Cam, well did
Jamal's got a little angle on that. Well, you know
a lot. This is a lot going on there. It's
it is really it's one of those stories in one
of those situations where it doesn't surprise me. This is

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the reaction around the league because Cam is just Cam
is such a unique personality and talent. It's just there's
I can't even think of someone like him like it
said that polarizing and discussable, and when he's great, he's
so great. When he's not playing great, he's so criticized
and so well liked around the league. He's just very unique.

(01:04:47):
If you you and I have one thing absolutely in
common is that we like you know, I always joke
a good tire fire is good for our freeway draw.
We need stories, right, There's a lot of good athletes,
but they're not They're not that captivating. We both like interesting, yes,

(01:05:08):
and like I don't. My thing with Cam is when
I first saw this story, I'm like, oh, I'll watch
their games. I had told you I thought they were
gonna be bad and boring, and you can be bad
in the NBA. Last year Cleveland was bad, never boring.
Arizona was bad. Yeah, but I watch root for teams
to be bad. But if you're bad and captivating, it's

(01:05:28):
good for us, it's good for the league. New England's
not going to be terrible because they have the best
coach and their defense. Let's be honest, they're gonna keep
people in the low twenties, so they're gonna win some games.
I think they have gone this morning from six and
ten and boring to eight and eight and fascinating, and
that is a huge win for everybody there. Must watch Telen.
Of course they are. Whereas we both agreed, you I

(01:05:51):
was probably gonna watch them lasted you. But we're gonna
see what this jarrets did of situation is, and then
we're probably gonna turn out the way we both think
it well, and then we'll be off to whatever other
team is interesting. But like I was finally in a
space where I felt comfortable, like, at least for this year,
if they're really going to roll out there with Jared Sidham,
which I always kept a little tiny piece of anxiety

(01:06:13):
that that wasn't really actually the plan. Turns out that
that was true, was not the plan that this is.
This is the plan. This is a long term plan
for next year. Right, So they're obviously not tanking, or
you wouldn't have brought Cam Newton in. Well. Yeah, I mean,
there's just so many there's so much to unpack. I
also think that the league is changing. Belichick's always been

(01:06:36):
in front of the league, not behind it. They kind
of stayed with the pocket thing because it worked, they
were winning super Bowls. I think there's a lot of discs.
One of the reasons they like Garoppolo is they could
move the pocket with Garoppolo. So with Brady you kind
of like you didn't do a lot of what the
league is doing. Part of me thinks that part of
me think, not cynically, let's coach Cam for a year.

(01:06:59):
He's not going to be here long term. But if
we get Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields or the kid
from North Dakota State, they're all runners. So the New
England staff says, why don't we experiment with Cam for
a year, because in one year we're going to draft
the guy that's more similar to Cam then Tom, Trevor
Lawrence can run. Justin Fields is unbelievable. In the North

(01:07:21):
Dakota State kid which everybody keeps sending videos, he's a runner.
So is part of it just like, Hey, let's kind
of go that route for a year. Yeah, I mean,
maybe he's on a one year deal. If it turns
out a better situation like the Ryan Tannehill situation and
he gets a couple more years contract, who knows, but
either way, everyone's gonna be watching that. So Tom Brady

(01:07:44):
continues to work out with his Bucks teammates, despite the
Players Association urging them not to get together until training camp,
and NFLPA executive director de Morris Smith made it clear
he does not agree with the decision that Brady and
other players have made to work out together. He said,
those practices are not in the best interest of player safety,
not in the best interest of protecting our players heading
into training camp, and I don't think they're in the
best interests of getting us through an entire season. There's

(01:08:06):
two ways to look at this, and Jeff was just
talking about it. So my issue is that they're not
doing anything illegal. Right, So obviously they have to make
this statement because we are in a pandemic still. But
if this, if the government was still saying you need
to stay at home, no gathering, no social gatherings, no workouts,
nothing of the sort, right, everything, all things open except

(01:08:28):
for essential businesses. We all just went through this and
then they were out there doing this. I would disagree
with that because we've been told to stay home, but
we are no longer quarantined, right, Like there are certain
businesses that are still shut down. They had to shut
down bars because well, you know, you talk loud and
yelling each other's faces in the bars and you don't
wear masks. So for the time being, that makes sense.
While the numbers are surging, right, gyms are open, pools

(01:08:49):
are open, salons are open. Those are way more dangerous
than practicing with nine guys. This doesn't look dangerous to me.
But there's another health factor too. This because they are
going to continue doing their jobs in a few months
that requires them to be in a certain type of
shape or they are going to get injured. Like they

(01:09:11):
can't go from sitting on the couch or doing band
workouts in their home to going on the field and
working out. So while the NFLPA, I understand has to
put out this statement, I also see it from their
perspective of I can't just go cold into training camp.
I need to be doing workouts like this, not just
running around in a circle around my neighborhood. I have
to get my body in that kind of shape otherwise

(01:09:31):
someone's gonna get injured, which which is gonna then cause
problems with for their future. So as long as they're
being responsible, I don't have a problem with it. Finally,
the Lakers are reportedly finalizing a deal to sign JR.
Smith for the rest of the season, and he is
expected to be on the roster Lakers submit to the
league on Wednesday. The two sides have been in talks
since Avery Bradley decided to opt out of the restart
in Orlando kind of felt like this was coming. There

(01:09:53):
was a lot of buzz about this even before I
believe Aby Bradley said he was sitting out. He's a
big athletic body who's been in big games. He's not
as good as Avery Bradley in the dependability or defensive side,
but j Jr. Is bigger than you think. He's a
big athletic body who can shoot threes, and he's been
in a lot of big games, and all these games
are gonna feel big, so it works. Also, Lebron feels

(01:10:15):
comfortable with JR. Smith clearly. I mean, look, when we
think of Jared Smith, obviously it's going to be sought
for him s ever live down that game one dribbling
the ball out situation. We know that. But Jr. Has
hit big shots. He's someone that Lebron feels comfortable with.
I think he'll fit in perfectly. And these rosters have
to be expanded because of the risk of of COVID
down in the bubble, so they're going to have more

(01:10:35):
guys in the team. Jr. Fits perfectly. There makes sense. Yeah,
good stuff, Joy with the news. Well that's the news,
and thanks for stopping by the herd. Lie. He's one
of the best backs in the NFL. Aaron Jones and
the Packer is going to be joining us next. Never
talk to him. Can't wait. Plus Chris Hogan, former Patriot,
we'll be joining us last hour, but Aaron Jones coming
up next. Be sure to catch live editions of The

(01:10:57):
Herd week dayson noon Easter nine am. SI. Well. Aaron
Jones with the Packers not only great, he has a
fascinating story. His parents, Alvin and Burgess, have been two
military sergeants almost sixty years combined time in the service.
He's lived everywhere, so going from UTEP to Green Bay
not culture shock. He actually is joining us now via

(01:11:20):
the Coward Global Satellite Network. Tied in the NFL last
year with Christian McCaffrey for night team touchdowns. So just
to introduce you to our audience, we obviously know you
the football player. You come in a military background. You
lived in Germany for three years, so you were telling
something tell me something off fair? So when did you
live in Germany? And just tell me something about the experience.

(01:11:42):
From when I was two to five, lived there with
me and our brother, went to a German daycare, so
we became fluent in German. We would go to the
grocery store and we would translate from my parents and
so it was pretty fun. When we got back to
the United States, it was only me and my brother
in the family who knew German, so we were speaking

(01:12:03):
of must each other. But there was really no German
tutors around at the time, so we kind of lost it. Well,
and then your dad, your parents like retire and they
start a marketing company because they want to promote you
to the recruiting services. So you're not getting recruited by
the by the big dogs, by Texas Oklahoma. You go
to UTAP, you smash all their records and you still

(01:12:25):
dropped the fifth round of the packers, even though you had,
you know, four thousand yards at UTAP, most rushing yards
in the history of the program. So you have been overlooked.
You were overlooked in recruiting, you were overlooked in college,
you were overlooked in the NFL. Has that given you
a little chip on your shoulder as an NFL player?

(01:12:45):
I mean I've had a chip ever since I was little.
I mean coming up. I mean you know, as a kid,
you want to go to those Army All American Games,
those under arm all American games and you're not even
getting it looked. Then you feel like you could play
with the best players in the country, and uh, you
don't even have stars, and you look up to have
five stars, and that just keeps adding to the chip

(01:13:06):
on your shoulder. And uh, you don't, you don't forget
those things and you and you let it show in
your play, and um, you just continue to work and
your time will come. You know what's interesting when I
watch you run, I don't know if I see anybody else.
I think you haven't own your own style. I think
you're hard to bring down and you've got to burst.
If when you were starting, when you took the ball

(01:13:27):
when you were six years old, you're a little boy
and you want to be a running back, was there
a running back or something like? I don't see anybody else.
I think your style like if if you were a
silhouette and you didn't have a jersey on. You have
a unique style. Um is there somebody you patterned after? Um?
I mean my favorite running back growing up was Emma Smith,

(01:13:47):
But um, I mean I've watched a lot of running
backs all the time, La, Damien Thomas, and um, who
else I'm drawing a blank right now, Jamal Charles, Sorry, uh,
Marshall Falk watching numerous amount of people, So I think
I kind of trying to take a little bit of
everybody's game. And I know speed kills and you play

(01:14:09):
you get vertical quick and defense plays on lines and
different things like that. So you get vertical, you always
have a chance. Well, the other thing Aaron is and
you're very unique. Some guys can taste the end zone.
You had thirty high school thirty touchdowns a senior in
high school, you were a touchdown machine at El Paso.
Even with Aaron Rodgers throwing to Davante Adams, You're a

(01:14:30):
touchdown machine in the NFL. You've got to feel for
it and a taste for it. When you went from
you tapped a Green Bay. That's a culture shock for
most people, but you obviously felt very comfortable very quickly
in Green Bay. Take me back to your rookie year.
You go to the smallest professional sports city in America.

(01:14:51):
It's cold, it's isolated, but it worked for you. Did
you immediately feel like this is family and I fit definitely.
I mean, you get the college field from it being
such a small city. And everything there is about football,
and you just feel the love from everybody. And then
I always have my parents coming up there, and so

(01:15:13):
it just felt like home. And it still feels like home,
and I love it there and the people they are
giving me going. So I've been critical from time to
time of Aaron Rodgers and people think I don't like him,
and I say, he's a Hall of Famery's first ballot.
He's very unique, but he's very, very demanding. And so
you go to your first camp with Aaron Rodgers, he
probably barked at you a few times because he barks

(01:15:34):
at everybody, and he's smart and he's demanding. But it's
interesting if you go back to your very first year
there again, it looked like you and Aaron connected on
some level. He trusted you. Take me back to your
first year with Aaron. I wouldn't even say demanding. I
would say he just expects you to be professional. He
knows what everybody else is doing on the field, from

(01:15:57):
every receiver to offensive line into running back back to
what the olon call is and what blitz is coming.
So he expects you just to know your job so
the office can run smoothly. So that's the only expectation
he puts on you. So he's a great leader, a
great teammate, and he he has an eye for guys
who are ready to come in and work and about

(01:16:18):
their business. And that's what I did. I just came in.
It was about my business, put my head down and
worked in and practice, just kept gaining his trust, trying
to make as many players I could in practice, so
when it did come game time, he knew he could
trust me or call my number. So was there a moment?
So you come from you're a fifth rounder, you come
from El Paso, and then all of a sudden you

(01:16:40):
go to the NFL and the party is probably like
I think I can play here. I'm really good, but
I don't know. Like a lot of fifth rounders don't
make it in the NFL. When was the first moment
in camp or a game that you knew I'm gonna
make this team, I'm gonna make it in the NFL,
I'm gonna be an NFL football player. When Davante Adam
came up to me and he was like, we had

(01:17:02):
drafted three backs at the time in my class and
he comes up to me and say, hey, you're my
dark horse done. Too many people on the team got
you as winning the competition, but I got you. And
coming from him, I mean, like, man, this is one
of the best receivers. This is our best receiver on
the team, one of the best receivers in the league.
And he's telling me this. He sees something in me.

(01:17:23):
And then when I stepped on the field I think
it was Week four against Chicago to take my first
offensive snap, Arra told me, I'm one of your biggest
fans in this organization. You got your opportunity, now make
the most of it. And I just took those words
and I ran with it because, like he said, you,
when you get your opportunity, you have to make the
most of it because you never know when the next

(01:17:44):
opportunity will come. Okay, now, how are you staying in shape?
I mean you could do. You could sit in a
treadmill all day and lift weights, but but do you
feel that if you compared this year Aaron to last
year at this time, are you in reasonably close shape
do a year ago? I'm in better shape. I mean

(01:18:05):
I have a goal, had a nasty taste in my
mouth since we lost to Santa France, so I've just
been continued to work. I'm not out here in the desert,
so I got sand hills. I got everything I need here.
So I'll just continue to work and work on my
craft and try to help my team get to the
super Bowl next year. Yeah, what a total pro. Tell
me about the pandemic. Has anybody in your family been affected?

(01:18:28):
What's kind of your I mean, obviously you in amazing shape.
Are one of the handful of Americans that probably would
be asymptomatic or suffer very little. Just you're an elite
American athlete. But family is a hit your family? Do
you know anybody Are you a little uncomfortable going to camp?

(01:18:48):
It hasn't hit anybody in my family, leaving taking right
measures and steps to avoid it, just being a healthy
cleaning your hands every day when you come in, and
taking showers, just different things like that. Um. I do
feel comfortable playing, but I trust the NFL um to
get to get it right, and um they'll know when

(01:19:10):
the time is right. But like I said, I'm excited
to play. I'm ready to get back on the field. Now.
Now you spoke German and then you stop speaking it.
But I have to believe you remember some German, right, like,
could you say hi, Colin, thanks for having me on
the show in German? I did not remember any German. Okay,

(01:19:31):
oh my stars, I could speak a little Spanish. I
mean I'm hearing. I'll pass on now a little Spanish. Poquito.
There you go. Well, congratulations to you. Now, when do
you head up to Milwaukee? When do you head up
to Green Bay? Je twenty eight? You look like you're
in shape to me, Bud, it's great meeting you, sir. Congratulations,

(01:19:53):
great story, and thank you so much for coming on
our show. Yes, sorry, thank you for having me. All right,
Aaron Jones told pro what a great story. At Germany
lived near the Mexican border. He lived in multiple planning, Virginia,
Tennessee U Tap. Nobody recruits him. He's like a no
star running back, two star running back, ends up just

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crushing it at U Tap, then goes to the NFL.
Last year, he had nineteen touchdowns on what we perceive
as a throwing offense. He tied for the most rushing
touchdowns last year with Derrick Henry. He is a great player.
He tied. So he tied with Derreck Henry on rushing
touchdowns they're a running team. He's on a passing team.

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He tied for the most total touchdowns in the league
with Christian McCaffrey, who's seen as the best receiving back
in the NFL. He's a machine, high school college pro.
He just gets to the end zone. How about that?
And his parents are Alvin and Vergess. They served in
the military for fifty six combined years. When he talks,

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you can tell you it's not a surprise. It's very
thank you, thank you very much. I mean, there's something
to be said about his background. Is military. Get up,
do your job like he's very habits. There's a construct
discipline that's night. There's so much talent in America. He's
a fifth round football player. Everybody in the league passed

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on him for four and a half rounds. I mean,
there you go, because I don't know where Green Bay
picked in that fifth round, but it was probably low
because they're always pretty good. Chris Hogan's coming up, former Patriot,
former Bill and a Patriot. Now Buffalo's actually got the
better franchise in my opinion, or at least a better
roster that's coming up Our three in LA it's the
Herd be sure to catch live editions of The Herd
weekdays and noon Easter ninety Empacific. So we had Aaron

(01:21:41):
Jones with the Packers on earlier and his story, this
is what's great about the NFL. Half the league is
undrafted and Aaron Jones grows up in Germany. His parents
were in the military. He bounces around, none of the
recruiting services give him any love. He goes to U
tap crushes it and then it falls to the fifth
round and ends up being last year. Nineteen touchdown tied

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for the NFL lead for a running back, and he
had sixteen rushing touchdowns, tied with Derrick Henry. And that's
why Aaron rodgers in a passing offense. So it's a
remarkable and my next guest, Chris Hogan, has a similar story.
So Chris Hogan goes to Penn State on a lacrosse scholarship,
not football. He read shirts his sophomore year and he's like,

(01:22:24):
I got a year left. So after going to you know,
Penn State, he decides I'm gonna go to Monmouth and
play football one year. One year of eligibility. Well, he
was good enough that the Buffalo Bill said come on
to camp. He stays four years in Buffalo. Then the
Patriots are impressed enough they go and get him. Three

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years in New England, wins two Super Bowls, and now
he's in Carolina. Now he's actually a free agent and
he is joining us. Chris Hogan from his car running
errands today on Long Island. If you had the Coward
Global Satellite Network, you know it is interesting. So there's
so many ways to look. Let's first talk about Chris.
The culture of New England. It looks like as a sportscaster,

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it's complicated, it's it's intense, it's demanding. When you went
from Buffalo to New England, explain to my audience how
different it was and how demanding it appears to be.
It took a little bit getting used to, but I
would say that the second that you walk into that building,

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you know, you can kind of feel that that demanding
presence um. You know, that do your job mentality everywhere
you know, in that you know, in that facility and
in the you know, in the building, and uh, for me,
you know, you kind of because it's just one of
the one of those things that everyone in there um

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really has. It oos people that are working on the
front office. So it's something I think that Bill does
a really good job of getting gases to you know, completely,
And Noah, we're still working on his phone connection here.
It's something that you want to that you want to

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buy into. So let me ask you this so Cam
Newton style, He's all right, we're gonna adjust here real quick.
Talk to me, Alex, what are you gonna do? All right,
We're gonna wait one minute, get back to Chris Hogan.
We're going to adjust. It is. It is remarkable. And
I told the story this summer that technology just I

(01:24:36):
can't figure it out. This summer or last summer, we
sent my daughter to Cape Town, South Africa for a
leadership council. Yeah, and so one day I'm on Manhattan Beach,
walking on the water and she calls and she's in
a tiny room in South Africa. I'm on the beach
in Manhattan Beach and it's crystal clear with no delay, FaceTime,

(01:24:58):
right FaceTime. And I was like, I don't understand this.
This doesn't make any sense to me. She was in
a her door was closed, she had a roommate, her
door was closed, and I'm talking to her and there
was like a half a second delay. And I'm on
a beach in Manhattan Beach and it's, you know whatever, midnight.
She should have been debended by then. It's noon here,
and I told her at some point I'm like, I'm

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as fascinated by the technology as I am with my daughter.
I don't understand how we're talking right now. And it
was crystal clear. So it's amazing. I was telling our
staff this last week because of the COVID virus, we
have a lot of calls we take now from all
over the place. Guys are in their trucks, from in
their cars, they're at home, they're in gyms, they're upstairs,
they're in basements. Roger Goodell had the NFL draft from

(01:25:42):
his basement. So Chris is driving around Long Island now,
he's kind of tooling around Long Island in his car.
So our guys are trying to get it all set
up before we go back to it. But I think
it's what he said with the first question is Belichick
does kind of a good job. Here we go here,
Chris is on the phone now, so let's go let's
go back to this. So cam in in Carolina, the

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system was kind of built for Cam Chris in New England,
the system is the system, it's not built specifically for
his style. You played with Cam last year, how do
you think his style fits New England's culture and offense.
I mean, I think the thing that about in New
England is that they had they adapt to the players

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that they have, and Bill is gonna put the best
eleven guys after our offense on defet and they're going
to use their strengths. They're not gonna, you know, if
someone's not great at something or they have weaknesses, it's
something they're either are going to get better at it
during the year. They're going to use the strength to
you know, they're the best that they can that they
put themselves in a good position. So I think but

(01:26:48):
in Cam, you know, if Cam is the quarterback in
New England, I think that they're just gonna do what
you know, Cam is good at and they're gonna, you know,
they're obviously it's going to be a learning curve and
they're gonna have to adjure, you know. I think on
both sides, Cam's gonna have to adjust. He's you know,
learning a new offense and a new playbook and new
new receivers, new everything, and you know, I think they're

(01:27:09):
just gonna have to feel each other out. But I
think at the end of the day, if Cam is
quarterbacking for the leg, you know they're gonna do with
Cam is good at So when you played with Cam
and you had you had an injury, and you played
with him early in the season and then Cam got
Cam got hurt, what is Cam style different than Tom?
And that you know, Tom comes to the line, He's
been doing this for so long. He's audible and in

(01:27:29):
and out constant communication. Is Cam more of an ad
liber Does Cam audible as much? What is Cam style
like as a wide receiver to work with? I think
the time that I got to spend with camrading camp
and in the first few weeks before, um, you know,
he was sidelined. You know, I think, you know, no one,
no one's Tom Brady. I mean, let's just put that

(01:27:50):
out there and you can't really compare it to him.
But when I was with Cam, the communication there is
you know, he was using audibles, he was using different
hands things, I was trying to put his guys into positions. Then, um,
I think the offense that he was in also you know,
maybe it didn't you know, wasn't as freeing or did
you know, limited into what he could do. I think

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in New England's offense, I think he you know, the
way that he sees the field and the time that
I sent with him, and how well, you know, I
thought he had a good feel for the game. I think,
you know, I think he's gonna do well. Honestly, you know,
it is interesting. Belichick is perceived as intense and hard
and it's not for everybody. It's not. It doesn't feel

(01:28:32):
pro player. But yeah, you walked in and had great
success with it. Why did the system work for you? Chris?
I bought into it. You know, I wasn't. I knew
where I was at in my career first of all,
and I was gonna do whatever they told me. I mean,
I was like, you know, I was undrafted, it played
four years in Buffalo. You know, now I get a
chance to play with Tom Brady and the New England Patriots.

(01:28:54):
But you know, it wasn't no brainer for me to
kind of go into that with whatever they wanted me
to do on the field, regardless of what what it
was Bill Bill asked, I was going to do it.
To the best that I could. And I think that
the guys that succeed in that do well there have
that mentality. And I think a guy like Cam, you know,
going in there at this point in his career, you know,

(01:29:17):
people kind of you know, writing him off. You know,
a lot of people doing that coming off an injury.
I think Cam's bought in. I think he's he's got
to drive, been there like never before, and I think
he wants to you know, I think he wants to win.
I think he's gonna go into into New England and
he's gonna do whatever Bill asked him to do. And
I don't think he's gonna change his personality, but I

(01:29:39):
think he's gonna go there with a pretty open mind,
you know, ready to work. You know. I want to
shift to Brady and Tampa because you know Tom very well.
It's it's fascinating. So New England is a political, sports hub,
an academic hub. It's intense, cold weather. I lived in
Tampa for a couple of years. It's fun, it's lose,
it's or city. It's a party town without without much history.

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Tom is going to go down there, Chris, and he's intense,
and you know, Tom doesn't have two game losing streaks,
he won't be in the mood for it. It's interesting
as Tom goes down into this a little looser more,
you know, chill culture. Do you think some of the players,
you know, Tom starts barking. I think it'll be easy

(01:30:25):
for Tom. But do you think they're ready for Tom's
intensity in Tampa? Um? I think so. I think he's
you know, you see what he's doing now with all
the guys and trying to get to know people. I
think I think Tom's intensity is no secret. You know
everyone sees on Sundays. They see it all over the media.
You know, Tom hates to lose. I mean, his competitive

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nature is unmatched. I think that. I think everyone on Tampa,
knowing that Tom's going down there, is fully aware of
what they're getting themselves into. You know, with how demanding
he is, Um, you know, how can peaditive he is,
and you know his willingness to win. I mean, you
know he wants to win, and I think he's gonna
do whatever it takes. So I think those guys will
buy into it pretty quickly. Did you sense And I

(01:31:10):
always said this, I'm always amazed because many of the
Great like Scottie and Pippen. Scottie, Pippen and Jordan didn't
last forever. Shaq Kobe didn't last forever. It's very rare
that you can get like Brady Belichick lasted twenty years.
I'm actually stunned. I'm stunned that it lasted that long. Um,

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did you ever see even little bits of wear and
tear where like a marriage, you could see times they
were they were wearing each other out. I mean, you're
around anyone for twenty years, You're probably gonna have a
little bits of wear and tear. Um. I think just
Tom is just at a point in his career where
he was ready to take on a new challenge, and Um,
you know, that's that's what it was. You know, I

(01:31:53):
can't really speak for Tom or for or for Bill.
You know, the relationships that they had was, you know,
they wanted to do whatever it takes the win football games.
I think anything off the field it was what it was.
But when it comes down to playing football and winning
football games, they were on the same page. If you
go back and look at your career. Penn State lacrosse
scholarship play at Monmouth, go to Buffalo then it's New

(01:32:14):
England is when you're in the center of the football universe.
Was there ever a moment when you just took a
deep breath and thought, God, I'm playing lacrosse at Penn State.
I am literally on a Super Bowl team playing with
Tom Brady. There were there ever moments that you, maybe
with your bride, maybe with your friends, You're like, oh

(01:32:36):
my god, this doesn't even this wouldn't even people wouldn't
believe this. If it was a movie. I'm gonna be
working on the movie soon. I think that's I think
it's got legs. But I think after the first Super Bowl,
I think I finally took a breath, just because everything
happened so fast in the offseason and just trying to
learn that playbook and fit into that team, and I
think I took a breath for a few minutes and

(01:32:58):
just realized how how special and how unique of an
opportunity that I was to play in Super Bowl from
where I had come from on the previous years. So
it was pretty It was definitely pretty special. And then
to go to back to back to back, you know,
to two more after that was even more and crazy.
So you you're a free agent, you would play, I
imagine if offered. Are you in good shape now? How

(01:33:20):
are you working out? I have not missed a day
since probably it's been a while since. You know, it's
been three years since I didn't have I wasn't playing
in the playoff and I had had. I think I
went right back to working out, probably uh, January first,
and I haven't missed a day, so that. Wow, knee,
knee is healthy. Um, you know you had to. I

(01:33:41):
had to navigate a little bit in the quarantine and um,
you know, making things work. But um, you know, I
have a lot of good people out here around me
that I've been able to, you know, work out pretty intensively.
And I am just doing waiting and hopefully this all
this quarantine stuff and you know, we can figure it
out sooner rather than later. But um, I'm just looking

(01:34:05):
forward to playing football again. That's all I want. Yeah,
We're looking forward to watching football, believe it or not. Yeah,
Chris Hogan, free agent. Great talking to you, Bud. Thank
you so much for coming on our show. Thank you
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No turn on the news. This is the herdline news. Well,
some pretty big news with the Cam Newton signing yesterday
dramatically overshadowed. The other news from the Patriots yesterday was

(01:34:51):
that the NFL handed the Patriots their punishment for violating
league rules by filming the Bengals sideline last season. The
team was fined one point one million and lost third
round draft pick in twenty twenty one. Their in house
TV crew will also not be allowed to film any
games this season, and senior club officials will have to
go through training on league operation and games. Oh, I'm

(01:35:12):
sure Belichick will love that. Is so you can no
longer plead ignorance the next time that you are clearly
breaking the rules that everyone knows about. You mean, you
can't film? It's so funny to listen to New England
fanboys defend them. Of course you can't do this. And
then plus those guys that got caught were like whoa

(01:35:34):
or what do they say? Like they will erase it
right now, such like that's not how this works. It
sounded like a couple of Weasley guys got caught. Listen,
I am not someone to fake outrage. If I am outraged,
it's because I genuinely feel that way. This does not
make me outraged. It does it disappoint me. No, because

(01:35:55):
I expect this from the Patriots. Well. As a matter
of fact, when this news first came down, I was like,
many good fines, they'll move on, this will be great. Well,
here's the thing. Let's say Warren Buffets, a legendary stock guy. Yeah,
if you found out like twice in his fifty year
career that he got some information because he was at
a lunch and somebody said, hey, so and so and

(01:36:16):
so and so, would I and it was probably the
FCC could probably SEC could probably look at it and go, hey,
that was you know kind of you're not supposed to
get that. Would you think he doesn't know what he's doing?
Like I know, New England's great. I just think they
pushed the envelope. But it doesn't make me think they
wouldn't be great without this. Brady would still be great
and Belichick would still be smarter than everybody. I mean,
they just get caught so much. Well, I have to

(01:36:38):
imagine that they just they just bend the rules a lot,
and they take the losses where they come like, well,
clearly that's what they do, Like they know what they're doing.
And I mean in the case the in the scenario
you just drew up, you're supposed to go to jail
for that. So you know, I don't think if you
take those kind of risks that I can like look
the other way in this situation, like a million dollars

(01:37:00):
is not hurting them. Obviously we know that there's precedent
for it. So that's why we know that's what they're
getting fine for. I just think at this point it's
tough to look at the Patriots and not like you
can't tell the Patriots story without that try about how
much cheating they done. Well, that's right, that's the fair
thing to say. It's like you can't tell their story.
There's too many instances now so and they don't really care.

(01:37:24):
They don't care, And it's not that I don't care
that they're cheating, like what I like for them to
do this fairly, sure, but it is what it is.
They're gonna keep doing it. Clearly they don't care. It's
just one of those treats. They clearly don't care. Like
you know, this is the rules. There's no way that
you can say at this point that the Patriots don't
know every single rule. They're so good at stuff that

(01:37:45):
they change rules because Bill Belichick takes advantage of the rules.
He finds ways around them all the time. Well, I
mean John Wooden coach UCLA for years. He had a
legendary booster who paid the players. Now we know Wooden
is an all time great code of course, but he
probably landed a handful of great players because a booster

(01:38:06):
paid for it. And so do I think less of
John Wooden? Or do I think everybody was kind of
doing it. He was just doing it with a better
booster and a better name. And I don't think less
of Wooden, But I do think when you write the
story of Wooden, you have to include a paragraph about
I forget the guy's name, it was Sam something, or
I just think I'm a realist, so I find it

(01:38:27):
difficult to look at things as pure. That's right. I
don't believe in purity, so when things like this happen,
I can't pretend to be shocked. Should I be more upset? Maybe?
Or maybe I'm a big callous in that regard. Like
you said, like everyone's doing it, so how outrage can
you really beat the wrong? Yes? Should they be punished, Yes,
it's just gonna be part of their story. And that's

(01:38:49):
that's just something Patriots fans and Patriot story. The deal.
We have to do it. So Jamal Adams once out
of New York, but jed Jet's coach Adam Gase hope
that Jamal can find some common ground with the team
and can get to a place where he's happy. Gay said, Yes,
I want jam All on our team. We've always gotten along. Well,
this is a tough part of the business when one
of your best players is working through things the organization.
We have to figure out a way to get in

(01:39:10):
a good place, which we'll get him back in the
right spot and ready to go. Yeah, because he's your
best player, so you'd ultimately want him. And can I
just say this, they're not paying that many people. They're
paying C. J. Mosley and Labian Bell. They don't have
huge contracts, So to me, if you just pay him,
don't worry about precedent, because nobody else is that good.
And I think everybody realizes, like everybody gets this, that

(01:39:33):
Lavian Bell and he's a good player. But even Lavian
knows I got about a year here and then they're
gonna try to probably move me. Everybody likes Labian, but
the feeling with Labian, who I think is gonna have
a good year with the better oal line. But the
thing with the Jets is Dallas has paying seven guys.
They're paying two to just pay it. Just keep him,
pay it and let's go because the team actually has

(01:39:55):
some really interesting pieces. Don't blow the season up before
it starts. Don't really buy into the idea that they've
always gotten along well. Obviously, negotiations can turn sour and
things can go badly pretty easily. I just feel like
this never should have happened to begin with. The purpose
of drafting players is that you hope they develop into
stars and then you pay them. Yeah, especially when they're

(01:40:18):
the best player probably in the league in a position.
That's the whole idea. That's a credit to you that
you made a great you made a great choice. Now
he a far seeded expectations being the best in the league.
Now it's time of him to get paid. That's how
this works. You play well, you get paid. That's how
it works. Finally, the UFC is still getting Fight Island
ready to go to host events next month, and Theano
White teas preparations with this picture of a unique feature

(01:40:42):
of Yaz Island and Nabu Dhabi. He hosted a picture
of the octagon being built right on the beach and
where we set up for fighters to train as they
prepare for their fights. I can't wait to watch. I
think UFC has done a great job to this pandemic
they have. I think that they I watched them this weekend.
They've done a great job. UFC two fifty one will
be on Fight Island. It's on July eleventh, so coming
up in the next couple of weeks, we'll get to

(01:41:02):
see all the features of Fight Island. I want them
to do like some behind the scenes stuff too, so
we can see, you know, get more content out of this,
like see what's going on on this on this island.
Dana White, it just never ceases to amaze me with
his like he's just a genius, Like he finds a
way to make the craziest stuff happen, Like this is wild.

(01:41:23):
They're going they're taking fighters to Abu Dhabi. It's on
Yas Island, so it's it's it's like a movie. No,
I think if you look at Dana, Dana to to
become a sport in a world that had enough sports,
you have to be so strong and so resilient and
willful to be able to take a sport. John McCain
threw it off cable. Yeah, and not just any sport,

(01:41:46):
extremely violent sport that was too violent for him. Budweiser
sponsors Networks. And then you get thrown off cable, you
come back and you'll there's also in your lane. There's
another sport called boxing, which has history and money, and
you go right up against it and you certainly become
much more discussed. The story of UFC is a great

(01:42:06):
American business story, and like all those great American business stories,
it's been bumpy and hard and the only they could
face a pandemic and they're like, no, no, we're built
for this. We got thrown off cable. We're we are
totally built for this and at a completely new element
that makes it all the more interesting. Yeah, and I
watched it again this weekend that the fight cards are

(01:42:27):
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and order. We've got that picture of Tom Brady. I
got that thing. Cam Newton agreed to a one year
deal with the Patriots. This offseason has been a lot
of quarterbacks resigning, signing, moving around. It's probably the most
quarterback rich environment of my life. Look at that picture
of Cam in the Patriots. He looks skinnier in that

(01:43:31):
doesn't he looks thinner? Dark colors do that. So here
we go. Here's my best for last. I'm going to
grade all the acquisitions. All right, professor Colin, what grade
are you giving the Bucks for signing Tom Brady? Well,
I think it's an A. They've got the pieces, they
just need efficiency and leadership. Pro Football Focus says they're
the best, fifth best offensive group, fifth best roster. This

(01:43:55):
to me is not about lacking talent. What they sort
of need is an adult, a winner, kind of a
culture change, a little more responsibility taking care of the football.
So this is a I think everybody in Tampa know's
they don't need Tom to be himself dynamic. Just distribute
the heck out of that thing, lower the mistakes, and

(01:44:17):
this is a This is a ten and six team
if you just distribute smartly. Well, great to give the
Saints for resigning Drew Brees. I think they need to
start looking at the future. I'd say an A. Again,
this is a great roster they had Emmanuel Sanders. I
do think they need to get serious about the backup.
I don't think Taysom Hill's a franchise guy to me.

(01:44:38):
But again, this roster is a lot of distribution at
this point. It's a lot of getting the ball to
players that can do it themselves. So I think for
another year this works, but they got they gotta step
on it because I don't think Taysom or Jamis is
probably their future. Well, great to give the Titans for
keeping Ryan Tannehill C minus A lot of money for Ryan.
Let's not kid ourselves here. He threw three hundred and

(01:45:00):
sixty nine total yards in three playoff games combined. You know,
they were too good to get a draft pick. Tennessee's
one of those teams. Had they moved up for Jordan Love,
I would have argued it made success. You know. Tannehill's
the classic, good enough to win games, mostly takes care
of the football. He'll give you about one or two

(01:45:21):
shots down field a game. But I think there's a
ceiling on this. It's pretty low and I think they
overpaid for him. Well, great to give the Colts for
signing Philip Rivers C minus didn't love it. He's the
least athletic quarterback in the league. Here's the good news.
It's a tremendous offensive line, and he'll have time to throw.
And he was good two years ago, but he's never

(01:45:43):
really been good in big games. And I think they
look at that organization. They they're good enough to win games.
They want to win games that matter now, and he's
not been consistent in those. Last year he had twenty picks,
So I don't think the Colts have the Chargers weapons.
I think the Colts have the better old line, so
you know, you can't move the pocket with him. It's
kind of a limited offense. So I don't love it

(01:46:04):
what gread are giving the Panthers for signing Teddy Bridgewater.
I thought that was the sneaky move at the offseason
A minus. I mean, he's not a huge talent, but
Matt Rule brings in a new offense, and Teddy is
one of these pick up a system fast. He's a
grown up, totally focused. Again, I think Carolina's weapons are
better than we think. McCaffrey's a monster, and I think

(01:46:25):
DJ Moore and Curtis Samuel are really good players, So
I think I think he is kind of the antithesis
of Cam. Smaller and limited, but you get a guy
who few mistakes focused distribute. He's to me, he's Drew Brees.
He's Drew Brees. That's what you're looking at. And I

(01:46:45):
think i'd pay money for Drew Brees. Well, he certainly
stepped in for Drew Brees last year. We'll calling to
give what grade you give the Bears for acquiring Nick Foles.
I say B plus, But the more I think about it,
at C plus. Listen to I don't like. I don't
like Nick false contract at all. I think what they did, though,
I will give them the high grade for this. They

(01:47:05):
admitted the trabisky things a con. We whiffed on it,
we butchered it. It's not good. We're not gonna fake it.
So to bring in Nick Foles at that dollar amount,
the general manager is acknowledging I whiffed, and that's you know,
you know you have a problem. The first step is
admitting you have a problem. They're not faking out, they're
not tricking us anymore. They're like, we gotta get a

(01:47:26):
pocket guy who can throw the ball down the field.
But great are you giving the Saints for signing Jamis
Winston a bee. I think he's worth a small contract.
I think he's productive, I'm kind of interested to see
if he gave him two years there, does he get
rid of all the bad judgment pick sixes? There's something
there with him. He's big, with a good arm. I've

(01:47:46):
seen him when shootouts. He's productive. People like him. You know.
The question for me is, okay, can you just clean
him up? Just clean him up? A lot of bad throws.
The Raiders signed Marcus Mariota, but great are giving them.
I didn't like it d First of all, Derek Carr,
could you put your arms around him for an hour?
I mean, God, the guy's already got self esteem problems.

(01:48:09):
So you bring in Mariota? Who I mean, let's Mariota's
kind of limited. You know, he's kind of a non
verbal guy to verbal spot. He's a good backup. But
does it does he take snaps away from Derek Carr?
Does he make Derek Carr think? Good? God, you guys
aren't like at some point you got a show just
a little love for Derek Carr. Who I've got is
about the twelfth best quarterback in the NFL. I mean,

(01:48:31):
I you know, you can keep telling me Derek Carr
can't play, but my eyes tell me makes a lot
of it. He's got a little Tony romo to him.
I don't think he's quite as good, but he's pretty good,
and I think this is just disruptive. What great are
given the Cowboys for franchising Dak B plus, I just
want to see him with McCarthy. I think he'll have
a pretty good year. I want to see him in McCarthy.

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I also, the offensive line is getting old. It's not
as good as it was three years ago. He's not
gonna have the support up front, so let's kind of
see how this works out. Now. The good news is
between Ceedee Lamb and improving Michael Gallup and Amari Cooper,
this is now a really, really good wide receiving corps.
So my guess is Dak's going to sign a franchise

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for a year. He's going to be better than he
was at the end of last year, and he'll get
four to five years at a big price tag. Finally,
Professor Colin, what grade are giving the Patriots for signing
Cam Newton? Kind of a CC minus, it's a weird fit.
The one thing I'll say, it feels like to me
they're saying next year we're gonna get a mobile college quarterback.

(01:49:32):
We better figure it out with Cam first. So it's
kind of an experiment on you know, it's this is
a Hollywood marriage. Let usays, they'll probably not gonna last forever.
But I think they're saying, we're going in this direction.
Let's let's at least get a year of Cam before
we officially go in this direction, which is big quarterback
who can move around and run, and we are out

(01:49:52):
of time. Good stuff today, We will see you tomorrow.
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