October 20, 2021 • 39 mins
Colin gives his take on the Ben Simmons mess in Philly and why the NFL doesn't have as many divas (3:00). Then, Bucs Head Coach and Super Bowl champ Bruce Arians and Colin discuss the similarities and differences between Tom Brady and Peyton Manning (8:00), how Brady changed the team culture (10:00), how winning the Super Bowl has changed his life (11:00), what he considers a fire-able offense for his staff (15:00), why he was on board with adding the controversial Antonio Brown (16:00), the reason he and GM Jason Licht work so well together (24:00), what Patrick Mahomes did during his pre-draft work out that blew Bruce away (27:00), and why he decided to un-retire and get back into coaching (32:00).
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sharing Ends, Tom Brady's current head coach Super Bowl winner,
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is going to be joining us here in about five minutes.
You know, all sports leagues copy each other to some degree.
They steal little ideas the NFL stole some of the
Instagram and social media momentum the NBA had. They lightened
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up the post touchdown celebrations for players. Let players do
dances and they've been rewarded by it. They get a
lot more free pub a lot more love on social
media for younger consumers. The NBA, which is consumed with
being cool, could do themselves a favor and borrow something
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from the NFL, and that would be a backbone. There's
only four hundred and fifty roughly current NBA players, but
you have three stars Ben Simmons with the Sixers, Kyrie
Irving with the Nets, and James Harden with Houston last
year that have gone total diva and held their team's hostage.
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The NFL has over four times as many current players,
and there is not a single player going all diva.
Why because the NFL doesn't tolerate it. The NFL doesn't
coddle the football culture in America. You can be in
an NFL locker room, be unvaxed like Cole Beasley or
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vaxed like Josh Allen. You can be a conservative like
Cole Beasley or a liberal like many NFL players. In
the NBA you can't remain a broadcaster for an NBA
team if you take a more conservative worldview. I have
lots of friends that work in the NFL and lots
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of ends that work in the NBA, and my NFL
friends are overwhelmingly happier people. I know two NBA beat
writers who quit this past year, really talented, one covering
the Warriors, one covering the Oklahoma City Thunder. You have
to align in the NBA with players beliefs. Coaches do,
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broadcasters do executives do. In fact, there's sort of an
inside joke. NBA head coach is the world's worst great job.
So the NBA and the basketball culture in general in
America is about coddling. Ben Simmons has been coddled at AU,
coddled at LSU, coddled his first several years in Philadelphia,
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so shocker, he's a spoiled brap. This is where the
NBA really struggles. I'm all for players having power. We
know that nobody goes to watch baseball for the executives,
football or basketball for the executives. That doesn't mean I
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relinquish total power to the labor force. To kids. What
you're seeing in the NBA is a result of how
basketball's culture is shaped and how basketball stars are coddled.
Three stars last year have held their team's hostage, Like
what happens to James Harden, what happens to Kyrie Irving,
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what happens to Ben Simmons. They have absolutely no self awareness.
They don't understand the architecture of a business and architecture
of the entire league. So when I see the Simmons
situation with Philadelphia, when I see the Kyrie situation with
Brooklyn or James Harden last year, this is what you
get for coddling your athletes. I'm not saying they shouldn't
be paid. I'm not saying they shouldn't be compensated at
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the highest of levels. You can't let the employees run
the business. X guest needs an all introduction. He is
the Super Bowl winning coach of the Buccaneers, Bruce arians
two time Coach of the Year, whether he was an
interim the head coach, one of the most respected and
light guys in the NFL, and he looks so damn
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comfortable today. Look at you. Look at you. You look
like you're gonna go fishing in fifteen minutes. You are
just perpetually happy, aren't you. That's that time you're going
to be happy. You win in a row. You know,
you lose all your defensive back, so why not. You know,
it's funny, Bruce, you were Peyton Mannings first coach, and
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you know, Brady and Manning have some similarities. Good height,
throw a good ball, smart guys, work their ass off.
I always I talked to Bill Paulian once and he said,
you know, Peyton was a little bit of a teeth clencher.
He was a little tight and we had to say, Peyton,
you can lighten up Tom's intense. But Bruce, it looks
like a different intense. Like where are their similarities in
their differences? Well, yeah, I think what Peyton was like
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the ultimate prankster. You know when when he was in
the room, it was like take note, take notes, notebooks.
I had a notebook on every corner in the league.
But in the locker room, Oh, he was the ultimate prankster,
you know, pulling pranks on everybody. And those those those
are legendary Tom. Tom has laid back more um again,
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preparations meticulous, you know, grinds it out about every single
little thing. And they both had that same quality. But
they're not losing. You know, I don't give you their playing,
they ain't losing, right, you know, Bruce, were you worried
at all that? You know when when this thing happened.
I remember saying on the air, I said, I don't
worry about Bruce and Tom. I said, but it's there's
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some young players, and Tom is intense and he's not
gonna sit around. He'm not gonna be real patient with
some of these young guys. Were you would all worried about, Okay,
here comes Tommy. Tommy's culture, Tommy's intensity. Are my guys
read for Tommy's intensity? Was there ever a moment you
worried a little bit about that? No, I actually embraced it.
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And we needed it. We needed you know that we
had everything, everything was in place. We needed a guy
who'd been there, done it and they would follow. And
you know, the first year you saw some of that.
But the one thing about Tom I didn't know how
great a teammate he is. I mean, you talk about
those young players, he coaches the Hella, he'd take him
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under his wing, whether it's off the field, TB twelve, anything,
their assignments, how they're running routes and just work with
them constantly, and he's an ultimate teammate. Has it made
it easier for you? Do you find yourself going from
I'm a coach. I mean, you're always coaching, but sometimes
you're almost now managing because Tom does is so detail oriented. Yeah,
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it's fun for me because you know, I'll be telling
the receiver, look, you're coming out you break, you're up
pumping your arms, you know, and they say, okay, and
Tom mcover. Hey, Look when you coming of the break,
you gotta pump your arms. I'm throwing the ball over here.
Okay Tom, And they do it. So I'll tell him
sometimes to tell them what I want to coach him
on because they listen more. You know what I mean?
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Has it been bruised for you? I mean you look fantastic?
Has it been? Is it may be younger? Is it?
Let's be honest about it. You're winning almost all your
games here in the last twelve Take me to your
life in the last twelve to fifteen games. Is it
easier to drive to work? Do the eggs taste better
in the morning? Like? What's your life like? Yeah? It's
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so much, so much different. You know, when you had
that title super Bowl winner. It changes everything. And my
son always tells me, no, you ain't smarter. You know,
you just gotta you got that that that that trophy now.
And but hey, there's a lot of fun because we
have such a great coaching staff. And for me, I
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am just riding the bus. We got great offense according
to defense, according an entire staff, and I get way
too much credit for the offer. I don't even go
to the meetings. I mean, Byron runs this offense from
top to bottom and doesn't get enough credit for it.
Will you when will you get your first look at
the game plan? Uh? Normally either Monday evening at Tuesday,
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I'll throw some things on Byron's desk. Normally he hasn't
done by it. He's one of those four thirty in
the morning guys like Todd Bows. I'm not a four
thirty in the morning guy, right, So yeah, who'll have
it done early? We'll sit down, we'll talk about you know,
how about we put this guy in that position? I
love the pattern. Who's the best to do that that
type of the same thing, red zone. We'll sit down,
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you know, Wednesday evening and uh, but you know we're
not grinders. We're out of there early, and we don't.
We're not in our office at ten o'clock. And always
been like that or is it the Brady influence. It's
always been that way for me. Thursday night's been date
night with my wife for eighteen years. And you know
a lot of guys are grinding it out in the
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office on short yards and goal line or whatever their
Thursday routine is, and it's like, you know, for me,
it's been out of there by five o'clock on Thursdays forever,
and the same thing to me. You can make this
game really complicated, you know, and if you're one of
those teams that you're always looking for ideas from somebody
else's film, you know, then you don't really have an offense.
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You know, we'd have a system that we just changed
to the week to week to what we think that
matchups are the best. Say Todd does a great job defense,
So they're putting those guys in position, Hey we're gonna
do cover two this week, or we're gonna we're gonna
play man this week, or we're gonna not blitz at all.
Just put the guys in position to be successful, and
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you know, They're great teachers, both of them, and Keith
Armstrom the same way in special teams. They're all great teachers.
You know. Tony Dungee had to talk Peyton Manning into
that whole family thing, and Peyton wanted to get notes
on Saturday or Friday, and Tony told me, He's like, hey,
it's Peyton. You don't need to go through it again,
did you? Was it a Was Tony an influence for
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you on that? No? You know I never worked with Tony,
but Peyton was. You know, I'd never gone home before
a player, and our first years together in Indy Thursday night,
I'd be there like six seven, Yes, A dude, are
you ever going home? Now? We're gonna watch this. I said, look,
here's my number. I'm going to take my wife out
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to dinner. You got a question, call me, I'm out
of here. He called. He called two or three times.
You know, hey, what about this against Chicago two years ago?
I said, I haven't really watched that one, but I'm
sure it's okay whatever you're talking about. Well, there is
one of the things I remarked I didn't like in
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college football. A couple of years ago, they came up
with a second recruiting signing date, and I said, shit,
these guys got no lives. It used to be college.
You get some summers off. So in the NFL there
are some miserable coaches, And to me, it's refreshing to
hear people because I always had this theory in my
business prep like hell and letter rip, don't don't overthink
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the room. If you've been doing something for twenty years,
you can watch film and even if you want twenty
eight nothing, you'll pick the flaws out first time watching
the film. So do you think sometimes do you want
to tell these are coaches you know it doesn't have
to be this hard. Yeah, Oh, totally totally. And I
tell all my coaches too. If you've missed a recital,
a baseball game, a basketball game, I fire you ass.
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I mean I had to do that with one job
I had. And you don't get that time back. You know,
your kids are grown and gone and you're still sitting
in the office. There's time you can come back at
eleven o'clock at night if you want to go to
the game. You know, if it's a peewee football game
on Sarady and want to hell, mister walk through Wook
cover it. You know, make sure, make sure you do
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everything with your kids. It's interesting you've built it's a
trusting culture. I mean Tom Brady brings in Antonio brown
Well documented had some issues before Tampa. Did you and
Tom you trusted Tom? Tom trusted AB. Was that a
difficult acquisition? Was that a difficult moment? Did you have
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long discussions on you know, Tom tends to put his
arms around young people that need help. He'll put his
arms around guys. You have been a guy. You'll give
guy second You'll give guys second chances. Was the AB
thing something you guys wrestled with or did you come
to an agreement fairly quickly. No, It's really funny because
you know Tom brought it up in the summer. He's
looking at eight games suspension, and I coached a B
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We drafted him in Pittsburgh. I had him for the
first couple of years. Yep, you know, personally, and as
our season went on, Chris Godwin's down, Mike Evans is
on one leg, and we've got a really good football team.
So we owe it to ourselves to investigate the best
players of build. So Jason and I went in what
about Ab you know, brought him in, had a great
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conversation with him, obviously over your knew Tom was on
board and Jason and I his idea like all right,
let's go with it. And uh. And when when Ab
and I met, it's like, dude, there's no second chances.
All right, this is you and I know each other,
all right, this is it. This is your ladd rodeo.
And he'd been he'd been great. We's also been important.
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I mean there's there's he's you know, you have a
rare situation right now between you know, Scottie and Chris
and Mike hell O, j Howard. Uh, you've got three
tight ends when Gront comes back. Ab Uh, you had
Tyler Johnson, the kid out of the Minnesota who is
not a burner but he's more of a possession guy.
But he's a really smart KG player. Is do you
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have to sometimes tell these guys fellas, there's gonna be
twenty nine thirty two passes today. This isn't gonna be
your week, especially from for accomplish people. Bruce, That's never
been a problem in the NFL. But there's so many receivers.
Seems like you have about twenty percent of the league's receivers.
Is there moments or weeks where you got to tell guys,
this is not going to be your week production wise.
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Now we're kind of put that fire out long time ago,
you know. And it starts with Mike Evans. He's probably
the most unselfish superstar I've ever coached. He just wants
to win. Chris Godwin is the same type of guy
and any of their best friends. That's as long as
we're winning. And you know, a ab bought right in. Look, dude,
you're you're not playing eighty snaps a game, you know.
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You know, we have I tell my audience all the time,
this is the Golden age of quarterbacks. They're tall, they're short,
they're fast, they're slow, it doesn't matter. It is incredible
what I'm watching right now. So through the years you've
written the book on this, are there things that you
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look at for a young quarterback and you just know,
Bruce that's not going to work in this league, or
that's a trait that doesn't work because a lot of
different stuff Bruce works. I thought Kyler was too small.
I didn't think Josh Allen was accurate enough. And I
look up and I'm like, the two of the top
five quarterbacks in the league. But are there things if
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I was a dad listening to this and I got
a high school quarterback, are there things like a not
gonna work, be not gonna work in the NFL? Yeah.
I think it's the hardest thing to judge. And that's
the brain. If you can't process information at one point
five two seconds, you can't play, and you can be
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as talented as there ever was. If you can't process
that information with them split seconds, that's really what separates
all the good ones. And I think what's really helped
all these seven on seven leagues in high school? And
you know, all these high school teams throwing the ball
more than they you know, there's no more wing teas
and uh, you know, or wishbones. And it's like the
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college is got total flooded with athletes playing quarterback. Now
you can separate him on the blackboard quickly. Yeah, and
you can watch the tape and like, oh, he looks
once and he takes off running. You know he's gonna
struggle all right. Now, if he's Michael Vick, that might
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be different. That's right, This Lamar might be. Now Lamar
has really came on as a pastor. Yes, he could slink.
He could spin it at Loewsville, you know, and so
each I think, each and every one. You can't you
can't judge the heart in the brain. You can measure
everything else. You know. It's interesting, Bruce Um. I don't
need to name names, but there are coaches that seek
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power and personnel. Jason has always been an underrated town evaluator.
I mean, good god, you go get try on from Washington.
I saw his high school tape. He was a skinny guy.
Didn't even look like an NFL player. He was a
three star guy from Tacoma Federal Way. And then I
watched him at Washington put on like thirty pounds and
when you guys got him, I'm like, oh my god,
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went and got another one. Um how much it doesn't
feel like to me you have this power need to
control persnel, but you also know it. So how do
you go? How do you and Jason work? Because man,
when you look at your last three or four drafts,
you guys don't miss. Yeah, it's it's a great collaboration
between the scouts, the coaches. We're all in it together.
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You know. We just want to get the best eight
or nine players or ten players that day that are
going to make us better the next year. And who
cares who gets the credit? You know, if I don't care,
Jason is a very undervalued in this league. I know
that for sure. I mean, he's one of the best
I've been around. And we worked together in Arizona. Steve
Kimon I had that same relationship, and it was like,
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let's just get the best players for the Bucks to win,
and we have a blast. He and I sit there
and the scouts they have their board. The coaches have
their guys, you know. And I'll tell all the coaches,
give me a guy you love in the fifth round,
give me a guy you're not getting the first round pick.
You give me a guy you love in the six
you jump on the table for and then we have
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to you know, that huge hundred thirty five un forty
guys on that board. And Jason has a great way
of he's going to go right about here. You want
him him or him? I want him? All right, we'll
we'll move him up here. And it just that is
so much fun Besige on that board the week of
the draft. And and I used to hate the draft.
I love the draft And why you hate it? When
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I was assistant coach, had no control, okay, and uh,
you just get your voice, you know, and then let's
get out here. But now it's it's so much fun.
And h if and when I ever retired, I'm I'm
really missed. Yeah, you know it's I I tell friends
the draft outside of the season, the Draft's my favorite
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sporting event in the country. Because I love college football.
I can make it. I make this argument. A lot
of the quarterbacks come from the West, but you could
almost live off the SEC outside of the quarterback. If
I just said, you can only draft the SEC. I
don't know why it is. Maybe it's the culture. It
matters more to them. But when you do, you are
you looking for a different kind of player offensively to defensively.
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Like defensively you gotta guys got a lot to have
a little dynamite in him, like he's okay to just
lead head first? Are there different personalities for different positions
in your career? Oh, I don't think there's any doubt.
I don't think there's any doubt. And you know that's
the hardest thing in the evaluation, you know that we're
so limited now and that personal one on one stuff,
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not having a combine. You know, those little silly interviews
they very important to get to really for fifteen minutes,
you know, good you could tell a bullshit or and
the heartbeat and uh, you know the guy that's rehearsed
all his answers and then hey man, whence the last
time we smoked dope? Was it yesterday? Did you get
did you get out yesterday before you ran? And you
start seeing I'm shaking like you know, but no, yes,
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that going out going out to the colleges. You know,
now he can only take three guys. We used to
have an authorized them. People really liked him. Might be
not the guy that's the star. It might be two
guys that were working out with him that you just
wanted to look at in person. Kind of back go
out of the backfield and catch little things, you know,
and hey, just listen them reacting to your coaching. One
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of the greatest greatest workout I've ever had was Patrick
Mahomes and who it is so smart? I mean Byron
And I had him on the board for about an
hour and a half and you know, you can see
the arm and the wind was blown thirty miles an
hour and loved it. Which a night day and in
the middle of the workout, I say, hey, I'm the safety.
I'm blittening. It's slide protection. And he ripped off exactly
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the worst to fix the protection and he just learned
them an hour and a half before that in the meeting.
Then I was like, hey, I'm the strong safetist man
man protection. He fixed it. Like I looked at Byron.
We've had guys that took three years to get that done.
It was like amazing. His recall from that meeting, got
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on the field in the arms, which arm? It's crazy.
Have you ever had a quarterback you worked with you're
surprised how good they got? Yeah, oh yeah. I mean
I've had a couple of guys. Kelly Holcomb, it's one
of my favorite all time guys. He was just a battler.
But every time he played to throw for four hundred
you know. And whether it's Indie, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, you know Cleveland.
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I think he had three or four starts in Cleveland,
they're all four hundred yards. One was in the playoffs
against the Steelers. And uh, but he's he. I might
have had something to do with him, you know. The
rest of them, God and their parents, they did all that.
You know, when we have seventeen games. Now, you're playing
really well, you have a hiccup in Los Angeles, you're
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playing well. They always talk about this in college basketball.
You don't want to peak in January. You want to
peak in March. Have you thought about Okay, I got
some veteran players. I'm gonna give him the bye week.
I'm gonna give him. You know, this is no shell
this week. No, have you thought about Bruce the year
differently because of just as an extra week, but it
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is substantial to players. Yeah, we've changed our Wednesday practice
schedule already and Thursday we've taken some reps out each
price for which week or was we just walked through
on a Wednesday. It was a real physical game. We
had some guys to beat up that wouldn't practice, that
are going to play on Sunday, but they wouldn't practice.
Let's just do a walkthrough and and come back and
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have a really heavy practice on Thursday. We've got a
great sports science team here who helps me a bunch
with that kind of stuff. But I have about seven
guys over thirty that we really monitor their workload, you know, Fridays.
We have a lot of guys that don't practice on Friday,
so they're ready for Sunday. Is it? So that's easy
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for you to embrace, It's not easy for everybody. Like
there's been a cultural a little bit of a revolution
in the last six or seven years. I mean McVay
came in this league and said, I'm not I'm not
playing anybody in the preseason. I'm not playing anybody. A
lot of people push back on that. You have always
been willing. I mean, hell, you retired, you're broadcasted. He
came back. You're always kind of an adapter. A lot
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of guys are rigid. You're not a real rigid guy.
I mean last year in the bye you and Tom
came out and the offense had been tweaked. Where does
that come from? That you're most football coaches. It's the
football mentality. This is my lane, that's not I don't
perceive that as you Where does that come from? I
think I've always been a pretty good listener, you know,
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and if you're telling me stuff and it makes sense
to me, Like this sports science stuff was all move
started in Arizona with us. You know, we went thirteen
and three, came back, lost the championship game, had a
killer spring, killer camp, and lost the entire team with injuries.
So this year is I don't want to see if
that until mandatory mini camp. We took the fifty young guys.
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We had OTAs and you could come if you wanted to,
but you weren't going to practice. We had mini camp.
Man Bro, they were about to kill each other. I'm like,
whoa slow down? We don't I mean, pads are nothing.
It's like and then we got to camp and we
had a hell of a good camp. And again it
was you're not practicing today. You're practicing two, you're off one.
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Just load management those guys through camp. Tom, how's your
arm today? Do you need a day? Uh? No, he
hates not practicing, but as like, you're not practicing today,
all right, and just making them take a day off.
And and those guys do a great job with Man,
they got so many gizmos on them, and you can
tell what the legs is weak and just by how
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they're running with all the stuff. But you gotta have
somebody can read that ship. I had no clue with
that stuff. Man. They send me these graphs all the time,
like what does that mean? Is he tired? Yeah, he's tired.
Day off. You know when you left Arizona. If I recall,
it was kind of a burnout thing. Um, how did
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you get talked back into coming the coach? Yeah it was.
You know, I enjoyed broadcasting. I hated to travel, you know.
I'm used to getting on the team bus and a
team plane and go to the game and come back
and said that ship going through their boards, grabbing cabs
and nah, that was that wasn't gonna get it anymore.
But I love going to practice on Fridays. I love
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talking to the coaches and seeing the coaches. And then
my son had a big mus Son's my agent, and
he said, look, you got to talk to Jason, and
I soa, what do you mean? You know? They got
a really good young football team. It's close to home. Um.
Then as I got interested, my whole staff became a
lad and my wife, Todd Byron Keith, the whole eighteen guys,
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and we've added some more. It's like I told my wife,
you're gonna walk into eighteen wives. You guys can go
have a hell of a lunch on Tuesday. Right off
the bat, it's like grand babies are close. Everything just
fell into place, and I think she's so excited. I
got about it, and you know, and I gotta give
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the Glacier family a lot of credit because I don't
fit the mold they hired. I'm not the thirty seven
young genius, you know. But it's worked out pretty good. Yeah,
I know. I worked out in Tampa for two years.
Rich McKay was the GM Sam wish Antonia or the coach.
I love the Glacier family. They were great to me. Yeah.
And they by the way they're about family, they are
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they were olds that way. You know. It is interesting.
We kind of joke a couple of years ago, Shit,
if you had a lunch with Sean McBay, you got
a job. It was like everybody had to be young, young, young,
And I'm like, come on, Belichick still doing a lot
of games. We got to slow down on the young thing.
If you coach Bruce today against thirty six year old
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Bruce arians, where would you take advantage of him? And
where would you look at and go, oh, like like
coach against yourself twenty five years ago, Well, you're better
be physical first of all, your better your team better
be physical, you know, because I would you know, when
I was thirty six, I was still the head coach
of Temple and it was my last year. But when
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we played, we were you knew you were in a
football game. You're gonna lose some guys in the game,
and you might beat us, but you might lose next week.
It was like that was our motto, Temple tough and
broad Street bullies and all that good stuff. And so yeah,
I would I would know that when I'm going against
this guy. This is gonna be a physical, physical game.
And that hasn't changed for you. No, that's still I
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haven't been a wishbone quarterback, I guess you know. Um yeah,
it was ingrained in me that that was that was
the way to play the game. And you know, I
was so fortunate because I don't know if you know
the story, but my senior in my senior in college,
I was trying to get a junior high coaching job
and I didn't get it, and we got a new coach.
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He taught me in the coming back out my fifth
year and we had fifty eight guys in my freshman
class scholarship. I was the only one to make it
to the third head coach. That guy changed my life.
I mean, I've started a seventh team quarterback, ended up
captain of the team, most valuable player, and my record
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helped for forty years most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback
in one year. I win more money on that one, mere,
Michael Vick. So you, by the way, so you sort
of get the Tom Brady chip on the shoulder overlook
thing like you probably get it totally all the way,
all the way. I mean we went to Super Bowl
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forty three. Every offensive coordinator who's one of a two
minute drive to win a Super bowls at least got
an interview. I didn't get a phone call, and it
was like this, this isn't in the cards, you know,
for me to become a head coach, Chuck, how do
you get them? Keyman? Why do you think that is? Yeah?
I don't know. We've also had a lot of drinks
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talking about it, and probably because I'd probably told you
exactly what I thought I did on those interviews. And
don't ask me a question you don't want to write, ansh.
I don't give a shit who you are. Right well,
to be honest with you, this is a true story.
When I covered Tampa, Tony Dungee had to interview three
times to get the job, and I remember they went
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to burn Steakhouse and I was taught. I talked to
Rich McKay's, a reporter, and I said, are you going
to name him after this? He goes, Listen, we know
he's the guy, but shit, he's so quiet, he goes,
we'd just like to see him fired up a little.
So you didn't fit you, and Tony didn't fit the mold.
I mean it was very much a there was a parcels,
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you know, no kind of physical presence, kind of angry
you didn't fit the mold. I was probably more that
way than the other. And uh, you know, but yeah,
I saw. I wouldn't change anything, that's for damn sure.
Do you a couple minutes left when when after winning
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the Super Bowl? Was there a moment you're with your wife,
you're having a margarita and you're looking at the Tampa sunset.
Maybe it's the Causeway, maybe you're on Davis Island and
you kind of pinch yourself and you're like Tom Brady,
married to the woman I love? What a great city?
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I mean, did you have it? There? Has there been
a little bit of an out of body experience, Like Jesus,
this stuff has really worked out. Yeah. I mean on
the field on the field at the game, you know,
we wanted three people on the field. So my wife,
my son, and my daughter they came running out. We
just had the most unbelievable family hug. Because it's been
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a hell of a journey. We've moved nineteen times. Yeah. Wow,
my daughter went to ninth grade. Tenth grade, it's grade
she would have went to twelfth grade, but I left
and she stayed all right, So it wasn't not an
easy journey, and uh so it was. We have a
huge picture of it and it was just the most
ratifying moment I think at ever. And then we did
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we did go out to to to a local tiki
bar and just sit in the sunset and go, this
is really cool. There's I mean, you're in right now.
It looks like you're in good shape. There's no reason
to stop right No, I'm having a blast and physically
really good right now. And you know the thing in
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Arizona that that second cancer thing really shook me up.
And uh but that my sun turned forty and that
really shook me and uh like where did all that go?
And but the cats are Um that that was like
is this all worth it? You know? And then once
we got all cleared up and all that was gone
(36:52):
and healthy again and all this was available, Yeah, you're
in good spirits. That's what winning streaks do. There's no doubt.
There's no doubt even I mean after that thirteen or
three year when we lost all our quarterbacks, everybody, and
you fought your ass up to get date and et.
It's still fun, you know. I know our injury situation
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right now is this is bad, especially on the back end.
You're to get worse before it gets better. But hopefully
in three weeks we'll get a bunch of guys back.
Just keep hanging on to the great seeing you. You
look fantastic. You're an easy guy to root for. Not
everybody is easy to root for. Bruce, You're an easy
one to root for. Appreciate it, brother, alright, great seeing
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you all right, Bruce. Arians I get to talk to
him a couple of times a year. He's really a
special cat. I love the idea of date night on Thursday.
So I'm married, right, and so I got we have
a couple date nights. And that has always sort of
been my theory. Like when we prep as a lot
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the herd. My thing is prep really really hard, do
the show and go home. Don't sit around the office,
because you know when you're not good, and you know
when you're good. There's no reason to talk about it.
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is going to be joining us here in about five minutes.
You know, all sports leagues copy each other to some degree.
They steal little ideas the NFL stole some of the
Instagram and social media momentum the NBA had. They lightened
(01:28):
up the post touchdown celebrations for players. Let players do
dances and they've been rewarded by it. They get a
lot more free pub a lot more love on social
media for younger consumers. The NBA, which is consumed with
being cool, could do themselves a favor and borrow something
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from the NFL, and that would be a backbone. There's
only four hundred and fifty roughly current NBA players, but
you have three stars Ben Simmons with the Sixers, Kyrie
Irving with the Nets, and James Harden with Houston last
year that have gone total diva and held their team's hostage.
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The NFL has over four times as many current players,
and there is not a single player going all diva.
Why because the NFL doesn't tolerate it. The NFL doesn't
coddle the football culture in America. You can be in
an NFL locker room, be unvaxed like Cole Beasley or
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vaxed like Josh Allen. You can be a conservative like
Cole Beasley or a liberal like many NFL players. In
the NBA you can't remain a broadcaster for an NBA
team if you take a more conservative worldview. I have
lots of friends that work in the NFL and lots
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of ends that work in the NBA, and my NFL
friends are overwhelmingly happier people. I know two NBA beat
writers who quit this past year, really talented, one covering
the Warriors, one covering the Oklahoma City Thunder. You have
to align in the NBA with players beliefs. Coaches do,
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broadcasters do executives do. In fact, there's sort of an
inside joke. NBA head coach is the world's worst great job.
So the NBA and the basketball culture in general in
America is about coddling. Ben Simmons has been coddled at AU,
coddled at LSU, coddled his first several years in Philadelphia,
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so shocker, he's a spoiled brap. This is where the
NBA really struggles. I'm all for players having power. We
know that nobody goes to watch baseball for the executives,
football or basketball for the executives. That doesn't mean I
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relinquish total power to the labor force. To kids. What
you're seeing in the NBA is a result of how
basketball's culture is shaped and how basketball stars are coddled.
Three stars last year have held their team's hostage, Like
what happens to James Harden, what happens to Kyrie Irving,
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what happens to Ben Simmons. They have absolutely no self awareness.
They don't understand the architecture of a business and architecture
of the entire league. So when I see the Simmons
situation with Philadelphia, when I see the Kyrie situation with
Brooklyn or James Harden last year, this is what you
get for coddling your athletes. I'm not saying they shouldn't
be paid. I'm not saying they shouldn't be compensated at
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the highest of levels. You can't let the employees run
the business. X guest needs an all introduction. He is
the Super Bowl winning coach of the Buccaneers, Bruce arians
two time Coach of the Year, whether he was an
interim the head coach, one of the most respected and
light guys in the NFL, and he looks so damn
(05:12):
comfortable today. Look at you. Look at you. You look
like you're gonna go fishing in fifteen minutes. You are
just perpetually happy, aren't you. That's that time you're going
to be happy. You win in a row. You know,
you lose all your defensive back, so why not. You know,
it's funny, Bruce, you were Peyton Mannings first coach, and
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you know, Brady and Manning have some similarities. Good height,
throw a good ball, smart guys, work their ass off.
I always I talked to Bill Paulian once and he said,
you know, Peyton was a little bit of a teeth clencher.
He was a little tight and we had to say, Peyton,
you can lighten up Tom's intense. But Bruce, it looks
like a different intense. Like where are their similarities in
their differences? Well, yeah, I think what Peyton was like
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the ultimate prankster. You know when when he was in
the room, it was like take note, take notes, notebooks.
I had a notebook on every corner in the league.
But in the locker room, Oh, he was the ultimate prankster,
you know, pulling pranks on everybody. And those those those
are legendary Tom. Tom has laid back more um again,
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preparations meticulous, you know, grinds it out about every single
little thing. And they both had that same quality. But
they're not losing. You know, I don't give you their playing,
they ain't losing, right, you know, Bruce, were you worried
at all that? You know when when this thing happened.
I remember saying on the air, I said, I don't
worry about Bruce and Tom. I said, but it's there's
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some young players, and Tom is intense and he's not
gonna sit around. He'm not gonna be real patient with
some of these young guys. Were you would all worried about, Okay,
here comes Tommy. Tommy's culture, Tommy's intensity. Are my guys
read for Tommy's intensity? Was there ever a moment you
worried a little bit about that? No, I actually embraced it.
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And we needed it. We needed you know that we
had everything, everything was in place. We needed a guy
who'd been there, done it and they would follow. And
you know, the first year you saw some of that.
But the one thing about Tom I didn't know how
great a teammate he is. I mean, you talk about
those young players, he coaches the Hella, he'd take him
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under his wing, whether it's off the field, TB twelve, anything,
their assignments, how they're running routes and just work with
them constantly, and he's an ultimate teammate. Has it made
it easier for you? Do you find yourself going from
I'm a coach. I mean, you're always coaching, but sometimes
you're almost now managing because Tom does is so detail oriented. Yeah,
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it's fun for me because you know, I'll be telling
the receiver, look, you're coming out you break, you're up
pumping your arms, you know, and they say, okay, and
Tom mcover. Hey, Look when you coming of the break,
you gotta pump your arms. I'm throwing the ball over here.
Okay Tom, And they do it. So I'll tell him
sometimes to tell them what I want to coach him
on because they listen more. You know what I mean?
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Has it been bruised for you? I mean you look fantastic?
Has it been? Is it may be younger? Is it?
Let's be honest about it. You're winning almost all your
games here in the last twelve Take me to your
life in the last twelve to fifteen games. Is it
easier to drive to work? Do the eggs taste better
in the morning? Like? What's your life like? Yeah? It's
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so much, so much different. You know, when you had
that title super Bowl winner. It changes everything. And my
son always tells me, no, you ain't smarter. You know,
you just gotta you got that that that that trophy now.
And but hey, there's a lot of fun because we
have such a great coaching staff. And for me, I
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am just riding the bus. We got great offense according
to defense, according an entire staff, and I get way
too much credit for the offer. I don't even go
to the meetings. I mean, Byron runs this offense from
top to bottom and doesn't get enough credit for it.
Will you when will you get your first look at
the game plan? Uh? Normally either Monday evening at Tuesday,
(09:26):
I'll throw some things on Byron's desk. Normally he hasn't
done by it. He's one of those four thirty in
the morning guys like Todd Bows. I'm not a four
thirty in the morning guy, right, So yeah, who'll have
it done early? We'll sit down, we'll talk about you know,
how about we put this guy in that position? I
love the pattern. Who's the best to do that that
type of the same thing, red zone. We'll sit down,
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you know, Wednesday evening and uh, but you know we're
not grinders. We're out of there early, and we don't.
We're not in our office at ten o'clock. And always
been like that or is it the Brady influence. It's
always been that way for me. Thursday night's been date
night with my wife for eighteen years. And you know
a lot of guys are grinding it out in the
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office on short yards and goal line or whatever their
Thursday routine is, and it's like, you know, for me,
it's been out of there by five o'clock on Thursdays forever,
and the same thing to me. You can make this
game really complicated, you know, and if you're one of
those teams that you're always looking for ideas from somebody
else's film, you know, then you don't really have an offense.
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You know, we'd have a system that we just changed
to the week to week to what we think that
matchups are the best. Say Todd does a great job defense,
So they're putting those guys in position, Hey we're gonna
do cover two this week, or we're gonna we're gonna
play man this week, or we're gonna not blitz at all.
Just put the guys in position to be successful, and
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you know, They're great teachers, both of them, and Keith
Armstrom the same way in special teams. They're all great teachers.
You know. Tony Dungee had to talk Peyton Manning into
that whole family thing, and Peyton wanted to get notes
on Saturday or Friday, and Tony told me, He's like, hey,
it's Peyton. You don't need to go through it again,
did you? Was it a Was Tony an influence for
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you on that? No? You know I never worked with Tony,
but Peyton was. You know, I'd never gone home before
a player, and our first years together in Indy Thursday night,
I'd be there like six seven, Yes, A dude, are
you ever going home? Now? We're gonna watch this. I said, look,
here's my number. I'm going to take my wife out
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to dinner. You got a question, call me, I'm out
of here. He called. He called two or three times.
You know, hey, what about this against Chicago two years ago?
I said, I haven't really watched that one, but I'm
sure it's okay whatever you're talking about. Well, there is
one of the things I remarked I didn't like in
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college football. A couple of years ago, they came up
with a second recruiting signing date, and I said, shit,
these guys got no lives. It used to be college.
You get some summers off. So in the NFL there
are some miserable coaches, And to me, it's refreshing to
hear people because I always had this theory in my
business prep like hell and letter rip, don't don't overthink
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the room. If you've been doing something for twenty years,
you can watch film and even if you want twenty
eight nothing, you'll pick the flaws out first time watching
the film. So do you think sometimes do you want
to tell these are coaches you know it doesn't have
to be this hard. Yeah, Oh, totally totally. And I
tell all my coaches too. If you've missed a recital,
a baseball game, a basketball game, I fire you ass.
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I mean I had to do that with one job
I had. And you don't get that time back. You know,
your kids are grown and gone and you're still sitting
in the office. There's time you can come back at
eleven o'clock at night if you want to go to
the game. You know, if it's a peewee football game
on Sarady and want to hell, mister walk through Wook
cover it. You know, make sure, make sure you do
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everything with your kids. It's interesting you've built it's a
trusting culture. I mean Tom Brady brings in Antonio brown
Well documented had some issues before Tampa. Did you and
Tom you trusted Tom? Tom trusted AB. Was that a
difficult acquisition? Was that a difficult moment? Did you have
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long discussions on you know, Tom tends to put his
arms around young people that need help. He'll put his
arms around guys. You have been a guy. You'll give
guy second You'll give guys second chances. Was the AB
thing something you guys wrestled with or did you come
to an agreement fairly quickly. No, It's really funny because
you know Tom brought it up in the summer. He's
looking at eight games suspension, and I coached a B
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We drafted him in Pittsburgh. I had him for the
first couple of years. Yep, you know, personally, and as
our season went on, Chris Godwin's down, Mike Evans is
on one leg, and we've got a really good football team.
So we owe it to ourselves to investigate the best
players of build. So Jason and I went in what
about Ab you know, brought him in, had a great
(14:05):
conversation with him, obviously over your knew Tom was on
board and Jason and I his idea like all right,
let's go with it. And uh. And when when Ab
and I met, it's like, dude, there's no second chances.
All right, this is you and I know each other,
all right, this is it. This is your ladd rodeo.
And he'd been he'd been great. We's also been important.
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I mean there's there's he's you know, you have a
rare situation right now between you know, Scottie and Chris
and Mike hell O, j Howard. Uh, you've got three
tight ends when Gront comes back. Ab Uh, you had
Tyler Johnson, the kid out of the Minnesota who is
not a burner but he's more of a possession guy.
But he's a really smart KG player. Is do you
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have to sometimes tell these guys fellas, there's gonna be
twenty nine thirty two passes today. This isn't gonna be
your week, especially from for accomplish people. Bruce, That's never
been a problem in the NFL. But there's so many receivers.
Seems like you have about twenty percent of the league's receivers.
Is there moments or weeks where you got to tell guys,
this is not going to be your week production wise.
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Now we're kind of put that fire out long time ago,
you know. And it starts with Mike Evans. He's probably
the most unselfish superstar I've ever coached. He just wants
to win. Chris Godwin is the same type of guy
and any of their best friends. That's as long as
we're winning. And you know, a ab bought right in. Look, dude,
you're you're not playing eighty snaps a game, you know.
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You know, we have I tell my audience all the time,
this is the Golden age of quarterbacks. They're tall, they're short,
they're fast, they're slow, it doesn't matter. It is incredible
what I'm watching right now. So through the years you've
written the book on this, are there things that you
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look at for a young quarterback and you just know,
Bruce that's not going to work in this league, or
that's a trait that doesn't work because a lot of
different stuff Bruce works. I thought Kyler was too small.
I didn't think Josh Allen was accurate enough. And I
look up and I'm like, the two of the top
five quarterbacks in the league. But are there things if
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I was a dad listening to this and I got
a high school quarterback, are there things like a not
gonna work, be not gonna work in the NFL? Yeah.
I think it's the hardest thing to judge. And that's
the brain. If you can't process information at one point
five two seconds, you can't play, and you can be
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as talented as there ever was. If you can't process
that information with them split seconds, that's really what separates
all the good ones. And I think what's really helped
all these seven on seven leagues in high school? And
you know, all these high school teams throwing the ball
more than they you know, there's no more wing teas
and uh, you know, or wishbones. And it's like the
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college is got total flooded with athletes playing quarterback. Now
you can separate him on the blackboard quickly. Yeah, and
you can watch the tape and like, oh, he looks
once and he takes off running. You know he's gonna
struggle all right. Now, if he's Michael Vick, that might
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be different. That's right, This Lamar might be. Now Lamar
has really came on as a pastor. Yes, he could slink.
He could spin it at Loewsville, you know, and so
each I think, each and every one. You can't you
can't judge the heart in the brain. You can measure
everything else. You know. It's interesting, Bruce Um. I don't
need to name names, but there are coaches that seek
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power and personnel. Jason has always been an underrated town evaluator.
I mean, good god, you go get try on from Washington.
I saw his high school tape. He was a skinny guy.
Didn't even look like an NFL player. He was a
three star guy from Tacoma Federal Way. And then I
watched him at Washington put on like thirty pounds and
when you guys got him, I'm like, oh my god,
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went and got another one. Um how much it doesn't
feel like to me you have this power need to
control persnel, but you also know it. So how do
you go? How do you and Jason work? Because man,
when you look at your last three or four drafts,
you guys don't miss. Yeah, it's it's a great collaboration
between the scouts, the coaches. We're all in it together.
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You know. We just want to get the best eight
or nine players or ten players that day that are
going to make us better the next year. And who
cares who gets the credit? You know, if I don't care,
Jason is a very undervalued in this league. I know
that for sure. I mean, he's one of the best
I've been around. And we worked together in Arizona. Steve
Kimon I had that same relationship, and it was like,
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let's just get the best players for the Bucks to win,
and we have a blast. He and I sit there
and the scouts they have their board. The coaches have
their guys, you know. And I'll tell all the coaches,
give me a guy you love in the fifth round,
give me a guy you're not getting the first round pick.
You give me a guy you love in the six
you jump on the table for and then we have
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to you know, that huge hundred thirty five un forty
guys on that board. And Jason has a great way
of he's going to go right about here. You want
him him or him? I want him? All right, we'll
we'll move him up here. And it just that is
so much fun Besige on that board the week of
the draft. And and I used to hate the draft.
I love the draft And why you hate it? When
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I was assistant coach, had no control, okay, and uh,
you just get your voice, you know, and then let's
get out here. But now it's it's so much fun.
And h if and when I ever retired, I'm I'm
really missed. Yeah, you know it's I I tell friends
the draft outside of the season, the Draft's my favorite
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sporting event in the country. Because I love college football.
I can make it. I make this argument. A lot
of the quarterbacks come from the West, but you could
almost live off the SEC outside of the quarterback. If
I just said, you can only draft the SEC. I
don't know why it is. Maybe it's the culture. It
matters more to them. But when you do, you are
you looking for a different kind of player offensively to defensively.
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Like defensively you gotta guys got a lot to have
a little dynamite in him, like he's okay to just
lead head first? Are there different personalities for different positions
in your career? Oh, I don't think there's any doubt.
I don't think there's any doubt. And you know that's
the hardest thing in the evaluation, you know that we're
so limited now and that personal one on one stuff,
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not having a combine. You know, those little silly interviews
they very important to get to really for fifteen minutes,
you know, good you could tell a bullshit or and
the heartbeat and uh, you know the guy that's rehearsed
all his answers and then hey man, whence the last
time we smoked dope? Was it yesterday? Did you get
did you get out yesterday before you ran? And you
start seeing I'm shaking like you know, but no, yes,
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that going out going out to the colleges. You know,
now he can only take three guys. We used to
have an authorized them. People really liked him. Might be
not the guy that's the star. It might be two
guys that were working out with him that you just
wanted to look at in person. Kind of back go
out of the backfield and catch little things, you know,
and hey, just listen them reacting to your coaching. One
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of the greatest greatest workout I've ever had was Patrick
Mahomes and who it is so smart? I mean Byron
And I had him on the board for about an
hour and a half and you know, you can see
the arm and the wind was blown thirty miles an
hour and loved it. Which a night day and in
the middle of the workout, I say, hey, I'm the safety.
I'm blittening. It's slide protection. And he ripped off exactly
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the worst to fix the protection and he just learned
them an hour and a half before that in the meeting.
Then I was like, hey, I'm the strong safetist man
man protection. He fixed it. Like I looked at Byron.
We've had guys that took three years to get that done.
It was like amazing. His recall from that meeting, got
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on the field in the arms, which arm? It's crazy.
Have you ever had a quarterback you worked with you're
surprised how good they got? Yeah, oh yeah. I mean
I've had a couple of guys. Kelly Holcomb, it's one
of my favorite all time guys. He was just a battler.
But every time he played to throw for four hundred
you know. And whether it's Indie, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, you know Cleveland.
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I think he had three or four starts in Cleveland,
they're all four hundred yards. One was in the playoffs
against the Steelers. And uh, but he's he. I might
have had something to do with him, you know. The
rest of them, God and their parents, they did all that.
You know, when we have seventeen games. Now, you're playing
really well, you have a hiccup in Los Angeles, you're
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playing well. They always talk about this in college basketball.
You don't want to peak in January. You want to
peak in March. Have you thought about Okay, I got
some veteran players. I'm gonna give him the bye week.
I'm gonna give him. You know, this is no shell
this week. No, have you thought about Bruce the year
differently because of just as an extra week, but it
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is substantial to players. Yeah, we've changed our Wednesday practice
schedule already and Thursday we've taken some reps out each
price for which week or was we just walked through
on a Wednesday. It was a real physical game. We
had some guys to beat up that wouldn't practice, that
are going to play on Sunday, but they wouldn't practice.
Let's just do a walkthrough and and come back and
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have a really heavy practice on Thursday. We've got a
great sports science team here who helps me a bunch
with that kind of stuff. But I have about seven
guys over thirty that we really monitor their workload, you know, Fridays.
We have a lot of guys that don't practice on Friday,
so they're ready for Sunday. Is it? So that's easy
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for you to embrace, It's not easy for everybody. Like
there's been a cultural a little bit of a revolution
in the last six or seven years. I mean McVay
came in this league and said, I'm not I'm not
playing anybody in the preseason. I'm not playing anybody. A
lot of people push back on that. You have always
been willing. I mean, hell, you retired, you're broadcasted. He
came back. You're always kind of an adapter. A lot
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of guys are rigid. You're not a real rigid guy.
I mean last year in the bye you and Tom
came out and the offense had been tweaked. Where does
that come from? That you're most football coaches. It's the
football mentality. This is my lane, that's not I don't
perceive that as you Where does that come from? I
think I've always been a pretty good listener, you know,
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and if you're telling me stuff and it makes sense
to me, Like this sports science stuff was all move
started in Arizona with us. You know, we went thirteen
and three, came back, lost the championship game, had a
killer spring, killer camp, and lost the entire team with injuries.
So this year is I don't want to see if
that until mandatory mini camp. We took the fifty young guys.
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We had OTAs and you could come if you wanted to,
but you weren't going to practice. We had mini camp.
Man Bro, they were about to kill each other. I'm like,
whoa slow down? We don't I mean, pads are nothing.
It's like and then we got to camp and we
had a hell of a good camp. And again it
was you're not practicing today. You're practicing two, you're off one.
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Just load management those guys through camp. Tom, how's your
arm today? Do you need a day? Uh? No, he
hates not practicing, but as like, you're not practicing today,
all right, and just making them take a day off.
And and those guys do a great job with Man,
they got so many gizmos on them, and you can
tell what the legs is weak and just by how
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they're running with all the stuff. But you gotta have
somebody can read that ship. I had no clue with
that stuff. Man. They send me these graphs all the time,
like what does that mean? Is he tired? Yeah, he's tired.
Day off. You know when you left Arizona. If I recall,
it was kind of a burnout thing. Um, how did
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you get talked back into coming the coach? Yeah it was.
You know, I enjoyed broadcasting. I hated to travel, you know.
I'm used to getting on the team bus and a
team plane and go to the game and come back
and said that ship going through their boards, grabbing cabs
and nah, that was that wasn't gonna get it anymore.
But I love going to practice on Fridays. I love
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talking to the coaches and seeing the coaches. And then
my son had a big mus Son's my agent, and
he said, look, you got to talk to Jason, and
I soa, what do you mean? You know? They got
a really good young football team. It's close to home. Um.
Then as I got interested, my whole staff became a
lad and my wife, Todd Byron Keith, the whole eighteen guys,
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and we've added some more. It's like I told my wife,
you're gonna walk into eighteen wives. You guys can go
have a hell of a lunch on Tuesday. Right off
the bat, it's like grand babies are close. Everything just
fell into place, and I think she's so excited. I
got about it, and you know, and I gotta give
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the Glacier family a lot of credit because I don't
fit the mold they hired. I'm not the thirty seven
young genius, you know. But it's worked out pretty good. Yeah,
I know. I worked out in Tampa for two years.
Rich McKay was the GM Sam wish Antonia or the coach.
I love the Glacier family. They were great to me. Yeah.
And they by the way they're about family, they are
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they were olds that way. You know. It is interesting.
We kind of joke a couple of years ago, Shit,
if you had a lunch with Sean McBay, you got
a job. It was like everybody had to be young, young, young,
And I'm like, come on, Belichick still doing a lot
of games. We got to slow down on the young thing.
If you coach Bruce today against thirty six year old
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Bruce arians, where would you take advantage of him? And
where would you look at and go, oh, like like
coach against yourself twenty five years ago, Well, you're better
be physical first of all, your better your team better
be physical, you know, because I would you know, when
I was thirty six, I was still the head coach
of Temple and it was my last year. But when
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we played, we were you knew you were in a
football game. You're gonna lose some guys in the game,
and you might beat us, but you might lose next week.
It was like that was our motto, Temple tough and
broad Street bullies and all that good stuff. And so yeah,
I would I would know that when I'm going against
this guy. This is gonna be a physical, physical game.
And that hasn't changed for you. No, that's still I
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haven't been a wishbone quarterback, I guess you know. Um yeah,
it was ingrained in me that that was that was
the way to play the game. And you know, I
was so fortunate because I don't know if you know
the story, but my senior in my senior in college,
I was trying to get a junior high coaching job
and I didn't get it, and we got a new coach.
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He taught me in the coming back out my fifth
year and we had fifty eight guys in my freshman
class scholarship. I was the only one to make it
to the third head coach. That guy changed my life.
I mean, I've started a seventh team quarterback, ended up
captain of the team, most valuable player, and my record
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helped for forty years most rushing touchdowns by a quarterback
in one year. I win more money on that one, mere,
Michael Vick. So you, by the way, so you sort
of get the Tom Brady chip on the shoulder overlook
thing like you probably get it totally all the way,
all the way. I mean we went to Super Bowl
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forty three. Every offensive coordinator who's one of a two
minute drive to win a Super bowls at least got
an interview. I didn't get a phone call, and it
was like this, this isn't in the cards, you know,
for me to become a head coach, Chuck, how do
you get them? Keyman? Why do you think that is? Yeah?
I don't know. We've also had a lot of drinks
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talking about it, and probably because I'd probably told you
exactly what I thought I did on those interviews. And
don't ask me a question you don't want to write, ansh.
I don't give a shit who you are. Right well,
to be honest with you, this is a true story.
When I covered Tampa, Tony Dungee had to interview three
times to get the job, and I remember they went
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to burn Steakhouse and I was taught. I talked to
Rich McKay's, a reporter, and I said, are you going
to name him after this? He goes, Listen, we know
he's the guy, but shit, he's so quiet, he goes,
we'd just like to see him fired up a little.
So you didn't fit you, and Tony didn't fit the mold.
I mean it was very much a there was a parcels,
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you know, no kind of physical presence, kind of angry
you didn't fit the mold. I was probably more that
way than the other. And uh, you know, but yeah,
I saw. I wouldn't change anything, that's for damn sure.
Do you a couple minutes left when when after winning
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the Super Bowl? Was there a moment you're with your wife,
you're having a margarita and you're looking at the Tampa sunset.
Maybe it's the Causeway, maybe you're on Davis Island and
you kind of pinch yourself and you're like Tom Brady,
married to the woman I love? What a great city?
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I mean, did you have it? There? Has there been
a little bit of an out of body experience, Like Jesus,
this stuff has really worked out. Yeah. I mean on
the field on the field at the game, you know,
we wanted three people on the field. So my wife,
my son, and my daughter they came running out. We
just had the most unbelievable family hug. Because it's been
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a hell of a journey. We've moved nineteen times. Yeah. Wow,
my daughter went to ninth grade. Tenth grade, it's grade
she would have went to twelfth grade, but I left
and she stayed all right, So it wasn't not an
easy journey, and uh so it was. We have a
huge picture of it and it was just the most
ratifying moment I think at ever. And then we did
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we did go out to to to a local tiki
bar and just sit in the sunset and go, this
is really cool. There's I mean, you're in right now.
It looks like you're in good shape. There's no reason
to stop right No, I'm having a blast and physically
really good right now. And you know the thing in
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Arizona that that second cancer thing really shook me up.
And uh but that my sun turned forty and that
really shook me and uh like where did all that go?
And but the cats are Um that that was like
is this all worth it? You know? And then once
we got all cleared up and all that was gone
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and healthy again and all this was available, Yeah, you're
in good spirits. That's what winning streaks do. There's no doubt.
There's no doubt even I mean after that thirteen or
three year when we lost all our quarterbacks, everybody, and
you fought your ass up to get date and et.
It's still fun, you know. I know our injury situation
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right now is this is bad, especially on the back end.
You're to get worse before it gets better. But hopefully
in three weeks we'll get a bunch of guys back.
Just keep hanging on to the great seeing you. You
look fantastic. You're an easy guy to root for. Not
everybody is easy to root for. Bruce, You're an easy
one to root for. Appreciate it, brother, alright, great seeing
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you all right, Bruce. Arians I get to talk to
him a couple of times a year. He's really a
special cat. I love the idea of date night on Thursday.
So I'm married, right, and so I got we have
a couple date nights. And that has always sort of
been my theory. Like when we prep as a lot
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of guys at the volume, no because they work on
the herd. My thing is prep really really hard, do
the show and go home. Don't sit around the office,
because you know when you're not good, and you know
when you're good. There's no reason to talk about it.
Prep Like hell, letter rep, go have a margarita. It's
a great way to live. And I don't even like
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