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July 30, 2020 • 30 mins

This week on Inside the (Rob) Parker, Rob explains why the Marlins/Phillies COVID outbreak isn't entirely unexpected, why MLB had to suspend Joe Kelly for headhunting the Astros, and why he's glad Nick Markakis reversed his opt-out decision and decided to return for the season.

Former MLB 2nd baseman/current A's analyst Bip Roberts joins the pod to give his take on the start to the unprecedented 2020 season, his view on black players vocal support for Black Lives Matter, and previews Oakland's season. Click here to subscribe and download all of the latest Inside the Parker podcasts!!

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Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame voter
number eighty six, Rob Parker. Welcome into the podcast. I'm
your host, Rob Parker. We have a very special New
York City edition of Inside the Park, a great show
for you this week. Biit Roberts, the former All Star

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and current NBC Sports Bay Area analysts, joins us. They'll
talk about Major League Baseball. And the Oakland A's also
we have foul on fair and so much more. Let's
got to lead off. It's getting round to keep him on.
Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories in Major

(01:24):
League Baseball. Number one, No one should be surprised that
there was an outbreak. I mean, let's just be honest.
People are quick to point fingers at Major League Baseball
and what they're doing. They're testing everybody. We know, there's
not a bubble. This is not the NBA. There's over
eight hundred players. And when you start talking about the

(01:45):
staffs and pitching coaches and bat boys and all the
other people, you will be trying to monitor over a
thousand people. The bottom line is this is uncharted waters.
All you really can do is test people and ask
them to, you know, to follow the protocol and the idea.

(02:06):
The Marlins seemed to me to be a product of
its environment because of what's happened in Florida and the
outbreaks there, and Miami's a hotbed more so than it's
something that Major League Baseball did. Because Major League Baseball
is still being played, test is still being taken. People
are not testing positive, so it's not like it's widespread

(02:28):
throughout the league. Obviously it's a concern. It's something that
Baseball has to take a look at and has to monitor.
But this this is all new, and I give baseball
for trying to have a season, trying to make this work.
But I don't think anybody to think that baseball is
gonna have it totally under control and nobody was gonna

(02:51):
get sick or anything. I think that's just far fetched
and not realistic. Baseball is trying, the players are trying,
and I give the mad respect to continue to play
the game, even some teams that voted to continue to
play and continue to go on to the next city.
So my hats off for baseball on trying to get

(03:12):
us some sort of season, and hopefully the Marlins is
an outlier, not what's going to happen to the rest
of the league. Two. Oh, yes, it was a melee
in Houston with the Dodgers and the Astros. To no surprise,
the Dodgers felt like the Astros stole a World Series

(03:32):
for them with their cheating scandal. So what did Joe
Kelly do? He threw out a couple of a couple
of Astros and it cost him On Wednesday, major League
Baseball suspended him for eight games for the actions he
took in the bottom of the sixth inning at Minute
May Park, and it is not surprised. Dodger manager Dave

(03:54):
Roberts received a one game suspension for Kelly's actions. And
Baseball has to do this. I mean, they don't want
to have like all these teams throwing at the Astros.
Guys are gonna get suspended. Remember it's just a sixty
game season in sixty seven days, and you just don't Obviously,

(04:15):
people are all upset. This would be totally different if
this was a normal year. I think the Astros would
be ducking and dodging a lot of pitches. But I
think this sends a message to the rest of the
league about how serious baseball is. Everybody knows the Astros
broke a code of ethics with the achieving scandal, but
I don't think Baseball had any other choice but to

(04:37):
let the Dodgers know that this is not going to happen.
And don't forget the Yankees are upset with the Astros.
Some other teams are. So we'll see how this affects
us going forward in baseball and whether or not the
healthy suspension will curb other teams from not doing the
same thing when they face the Houston Astros. Number three

(04:59):
say it isn't so. Nick Mark Cakes has had a
change of heart. You remember, the veteran outfielder had decided
that he was going to opt out of the season,
not play for the Braves. But you know what, he
changed his mind and he is going to return to
the Atlanta Braves. He was quoted. He said, quote, sometimes

(05:20):
we all make rast decisions that are not thought out thoroughly.
End quote. So Mark Cakes, obviously, the thirty six year
old veteran, you know, spent time away from the team,
not with his guys, and decided that he wanted to
be a part of it. It speaks volumes considering that
this decision comes after the breakout with the Marlins, and

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you know, reading the news and watching the news every
day and hearing about NFL players opting out left and right,
you know, and what's going on. For him to just
decide that he wanted to be a part and wanted
to give it a shot with baseball is amazing. But
we'll walk back. Nick Mark Cakes to the Atlanta Braves,

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a thirty six year old wants to play ball even
during the pandemic. Hats off to Nick Mark Cakes. Here
comes the Big Interviews. Listen head, Larry, it's so good,
all right now, let's welcome to the podcast. Bip Roberts,
the former major leaguer, of course, who had a lifetime

(06:24):
batting average of two ninety four, played for a number
of teams, including the Padres and the Reds and the
Royals and the Indians and the Tigers and the Athletics,
and he's also a analyst for NBC Sports Bay Area.
What's up, Bip, oh Man, I don't think it is good.
I'm just home, isolated, doing this pandemic and just trying

(06:46):
to make the best of it. You know what I'm saying, Pip.
It is definitely crazy. Baseball did somehow, some way and
got kicked off, you know. I mean, people weren't sure
whether we were gonna be able to get a season,
and but obviously coronavirus is still prevalent. Tell me about
this first, would you, as a player, would you have

(07:08):
opted to play, as most guys have a handful of
opted out, but most guys are playing. Would you have played? Yeah,
I'm pretty sure I would have played. You know, if
you had little kids or you know, mama at home pregnant,
maybe not. But I think as all baseball players want

(07:29):
to do is they want to get out there and
keep their skills sharp, because if you don't play baseball,
you lose your skills quickly. So I think I would
have gotten out there and played. And you know, if
you know my story, the game was taken away from
me at one time, so when I was able to
get back into the big leagues, I didn't want to
give him that up. So I'm pretty sure that I
would have played, you know. And we just think the

(07:50):
powers that be, Matt Fred and Tony Clark for coming
together finding a way to get the guys back on
the field so that at least they could make this choice,
whether the play or not. Obviously, you know, people of
some of criticized Baseball for, you know, the way that
this has been handled and the you know situation. I
don't know if there's a correct way. We're all learning this.

(08:13):
This is all new as we go forward. I know
they're trying to get the games on. I've appreciated watching them,
but but the Marlins thing, what do you make of that?
With you know, with sixteen players and coaches, you know,
coming down. It doesn't seem like that's the case for
most teams, but in the Marlins case, maybe this is

(08:35):
a part of the environment because you know, Florida's had
a large outbreak of this in the whole state, right right,
you know, and that that's scary because you did anticipate
what would happen from a team from Miami, because we
knew that it was a hot spot in the country
and these guys were down there working out that they
were not in the bubble. They were still living their lives,
going out doing things that in the public and not

(08:57):
wearing masks or whatever it may be, the social distance yourself.
So you just knew a team come out of Miami
there could just be a time bomb ticking waiting to happen.
And as we see now when you look at it
to day, there's eighteen guys amongst that organization who tested
positive for it, So you know, it was we expected.
We knew that the baseball was not in the bubble,

(09:18):
although all the teams are trying to find some type
of way to keep guys away from the public when
they travel, but you know, we just knew coming out
of Miami, happened, listened to what was happening in the news.
You just knew that eventually there would be a guy
to test positive from Miami. But then all of a sudden,
as quickly as this disease spreads, they have eighteen guys. Now,
so wow, you know, what do you do? What's the

(09:41):
right way and what's the wrong way. We don't know.
We're just taking a day by day and hopefully now
we can understand that if we isolate ourselves on the road,
or if we isolate ourselves from the public, especially as
the ball players are, that's gonna be the only way
we get through this season. Our guest is are all
star bit Roberts, who was now also a baseball analyst

(10:04):
with the NBC Sports Bay Area. How about there are
all the players who are like, we're still in we
want to play. They're trying to fight through this. We
don't know about the other sports you see in every day,
like football players are opting out. I get baseball players
some respect that they are trying to play in a

(10:26):
very very tough situation. Do you look at it that way? Yeah,
because you know, Rob, some of us as ball plays
in baseball we don't get started until like the second
month of the season. A lot of guys struggled early,
so you knew that guys were gonna get out the
box slow and it was gonna be frustrating. And then
you have the COVID situation going with that, and you
know how to deal with that about playing with your

(10:48):
teammates and then going home. So there's a lot of
things that are variables that we didn't have to do
as players. We didn't worry about that. And then you
don't have any fans to give you that extra motivation
once you're out there. So these guys and dealing with
something that is unprecedented, you know, I don't know how
they're dealing with it, but these guys are strong mentally.
I don't know how I would have dealt with that, honestly,

(11:09):
because you know, when you think about it, you have
no fans. You're gonna be stuck at home. You don't
have any outlets too when you have tough days, and
most of us are slow starters, so we're gonna have
those tough days and there's no outlets. Once you have
a tough day, you can't go hang out anywhere, you
can't go to a club and just relax. You can't
just sit around the pool and just relax. There's nothing

(11:30):
you can do to take your mind off of what's
at hand, which is the game every day and every
day and every day and every day, and now you
only have sixty games, so it becomes a sprint, and
if you're a slow starter, a lot of frustration gets
set in. So when I watch what's happening around and
I see Christian Yellick off to a slow start, I
just pray for him because I love to watch him

(11:51):
play and I want to see him do well, but
also know that he's just He's a human being, and
sometimes human beings, as baseball players, get off to a
slow start. So you know, I feel for guys right
now when I watch them get off to a slow start.
What do you make of the black baseball players who
were involved in Black Lives Matter and what Major League
Baseball has done. You've seen players like a Mookie Betts

(12:14):
and John Carlo Stanton and Aaron Hicks, you know, Neil
other players around baseball. When you see that, what does
that say to you? Order How does that make you feel?
But I like the fact that they're Rezilion in their bulletproof.
They don't care what people say, what people think, And
I'm pretty much the same vote with them. Guys. If

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I was a player now, I do the same thing,
because you know, the time has come and there's drastic
changes that need to be made, and baseball was always
one of the slower sports to make those changes. And
when you see the black brothers get together and now
they're on the same page and they understand exactly all
the systemic racism and the injustices that happen in our country.
They're willing to stand forth and say some things now.

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Back in the past when we were playing, some guys
were afraid to say anything because you lose your job.
You know. Back then, it wasn't like it is now.
And I just appreciate what these guys are doing taking
their platform, standing strong, coming together as a unit, and
letting everyone know, hey, we're here, We're not going to
accept this, and we're gonna do what we have to
do to bring justice to this platform, but also bring

(13:17):
justice in this country. Because I think right now this
is the right time to stand on that platform and
speak out exactly what it is you feel in your heart. Now,
whatever changes are made. Those are things that have to
be worked on behind the door. But right now, when
you have this public access and you're on the field
and you have the ability to whether stand or kneel,

(13:39):
and you make a decision to kneel, you're letting everyone
know that you don't You're not gonna take this anymore.
And I just applaud these guys because, as I said,
as an older guy, now, I wish there was more
of us who did that back in the past. But
back in the past it was easier for us to
lose our jobs. You mentioned, we mentioned Mookie Bets is

(13:59):
one of those guys. Do you like him as a player?
I mean, he can do everything and he got that
big three hundred and sixty five million dollars twelve attention
When you saw that number for a little guard man,
I know you were like, man, oh yeah, Rob, I
love it. Man. I mean I met Lukie a couple
of years ago when he's with Boston. When he came
in Oakland, Tommy Goodwin introduced me to him and I

(14:21):
was able to take a picture with him, and I
just because he was my favorite player, you know, a
little guy that could do everything and so you know,
the guys that have passed have paved the way for
these guys to get this type of money, and you
just want to rejoice in it with him because he's
had such a great career so far, and he's put
up numbers that not many guys have done. You know
when one season he was MVP Gold Love Championship and

(14:42):
he's just on batting titles. He's done so many different things.
And I really liked him from the first time I
watched him play where in Oakland he was on first base,
he took off on the pitch, there was a groundball
base in to left field, and Lukie Betts scored and
I was in off right then I said, I've seen
a guy score on a basic groundball to left field

(15:05):
from first base, So you know, instantly I said, this
is my guy. That's so sweet, no doubt about it.
All right, let's put put on your Oakland A's Baseball
Analyst hat because the AIDS are off to a good start,
you know, in the twenty twenty season, and the AIDS
are trying to make it to the playoffs for the
third year in the role, which would be impressive considering

(15:28):
that they don't have to gigantic payroll. But they've been
able to win games. Obviously, it's just running into the
wrong teams in the playoffs and they can't seem to
move forward. But should they make the playoffs, obviously there's
expanded PLAYFFS. Tell me about this age team, how good
is it? Well, they have an anchor in that lineup
right now and Matt Chapman. This kid is unbelievable with

(15:48):
the glove. I mean, he is probably the best third
basement I've seen in a long time. When we talk
about a platinum glove, he has that. And now it's
kind of coming over to the office or side. But
he's more confident. Having played in the league a couple
of years now, he knows what he's gonna face. He's
hitting third in the lineup, which means he's the best
hitter in the lineup according to where you put this

(16:09):
guy in the lineup. And so right now he's just
swinging the bat well and he's carrying this team. Most
of the wins are because he's gotten some big hits.
Hit a home run today, and he continues to swing
the bat well. Now the rock and the guy who
should be the anchor is Chris Davis, but he's struggling
right now, so he's on the bench watching the day.
But the bottom line is when you can get him going.

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With Matt Chapman and Matt Olsen and Marcus Simeon and
Ramon Lariano, these guys swing the bat consistently and they
do damage day in and day out. The pitcher staff
has been tremendous day. They're giving up some runs right now,
but the offense has the capability of overcoming the runs
that they give up. And the age defense right now,
I believe that when you have Matt Olsen and Matt

(16:51):
Chapman at first and third base, you've got two of
the best players in all the baseball. I believe Matt
Olsen is the best first baseman in baseball and Matt
Chapman maybe the best basement in baseball. There's some great
players out there, but I like these guys are not
biased because they're open age, but when I watch them
play day in and day out, they have that high
IQ and it goes along with their play. And Marcus Simeon, again,
this is a guy who one year had almost fifty

(17:14):
eras a short stop and last year he was almost
a gold Glover and almost an MVB. So this guy
continues to get better and better and better. Now second
base they have guys coming in and out with Kemp
and Tender and Baretto and guys like that. So these
guys are gonna have to get their feet wet and
get comfortable and become part of a solid infield. The
outfield it is what it is. Loriano a center for

(17:35):
Scottie and Wright, and then they have a bunch of
guys that may mix in and left field. But the
nucleus of this team is one that is used to winning.
They were developed, you know, in a period where they
learned how to play nine innings. Bob Melvin taught him
how to play nine, and then they started competing for nine,
and then they learned how to win. So this team
right now has a nucleus to get past the first round.

(17:57):
It's a matter of ken they execute. Can they get
off to a great start, and notorious for slow starts,
but right now they consistently win a some ballgame, So
that's a good sign right now, all right. His name
is Bip Roberts, the former Major League Baseball All Star
and of course baseball analysts for NBC Sports Bay Area
covered them way back in the nineties and we've been

(18:18):
cool ever since then. One of my favorite people the
Bip Bip Roberts. Thanks Bip, Hey, you got it. Man,
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Analytics is his game, Anthony? What do you got for
me today? All right, rob, let's give it up for
the old guys, specifically ones who hit bombas for that
club up in Minnesota. Nelson Cruise is fresh off his
best season in three eleven, with forty one homers and
an ops over a thousand, and now the forty year

(20:30):
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three homers, and driving in ten in his team's first
three games. Now, on Sunday, in a fourteen to two
drubbing of the White Sox, Cruise became only the fourth
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getting a sixty game season of hopefully at this point,

(20:53):
it is feasible for someone like Cruz, who has twenty
three more homers than any other player since twenty fourteen,
toresaty homer mark, and if he does, not only would
it be impressive in such a shortened crazy season, but
he'd be just the third forty year old all time
with thirty plus homer in the season, joining the Tigers
Darryl Elevans in nineteen eighty seven and our very owned

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Big Poppy David Ortiz back in his final season of
twenty sixteen. The only three players have ever posted an
ops over a thousand after turning forty the aforementioned Ortiz,
Barry Bonds in his final age forty two season in
two thousand and seven, and Ted Williams final campaign back
in nineteen sixty. We could easily see crews joining that
list by season's end. And like Eliah said, age ain't

(21:37):
nothing but a number and Nelson CRUs is proving that
point daily. And it was a big week in the
Big league? Is it followed? Or is it fair? And
now here? Shadow League dot Com MLB insider JR. Gambo

(22:01):
The Marlins had sixteen players and personnel test positive for
COVID nineteen, leading to the postponement of several other MLB games.
The outbreak seems to be contained to the Marlins, but
if another team has a similar outbreak, is it foul
or fair to say that Major League Baseball might have

(22:23):
to shut down for the season? Fair? I don't want
this to be the case. MLB Commissioner Manfred met with
team owners Monday, following two postponed games and said that
the situation is not a nightmare. He's not thinking of
cancer leading the season at this point. He even indicated

(22:43):
that the Marlins could be turned to the field as
early as Wednesday. I'm not going to tell MLB what
to do. It's always tough when the final decision is
on you, and so many jobs and lives are possibly
at state. But one more outbreak on the team like
the Marlins, who are at fourteen and counting between players
and staff and NFB will probably have to shut down.

(23:08):
No baseball fan wants that to be the case. The
league and the players knew people would contract COVID. Take
into account that the players travel to different cities exposure,
don't have a bubble environment exposure, and are pretty much
free to do what they please after game, go home,
hang out in COVID, pre tree dishes, etc. More possible exposures.

(23:30):
Then you haven't seen the celebrations. They haven't changed. There's
no social distancing going on when a guy hit to
walk off, and that one of our concerns on the
inside the Parker Podcast at the beginning, they're all hugging.
All baseball can do right now is hold is collective
breath and hope COVID can be contained to one team
and not become the worst case scenario and MLB outbreak.

(23:54):
As a fan, I can selfishly support and praise Manfress
for not shutting it down yet, although as a scientist
I'd probably be cursing his name right now. Now it's
time for some diamond dust with wish TVs. Phil Sanchez.
He played baseball in college. Now here is MLB knowledge. Well,

(24:16):
now that we have a few games in the books,
there's really a lot to unpack. First, anyone who thought
nobody wanted to watch baseball in stadiums without fans basically
just dead wrong, and the ratings so far prove it.
Listen to this opening Nights game between the Yankees and
the Nationals saw an average an average of four million viewers,
making it the largest audience for an opening night game

(24:39):
in ESPN history and the largest regular season game on
any network since twenty eleven. Needless to say, America is
starving for sports, and baseball, even without live fans, has
filled that void. Now that brings us to our next topic. Secondly,
a lot has been said about the outbreak of COVID
nineteen on the Marlins. This after a total of seventeen

(25:02):
people in the organization tested positive, including eleven players and
two coaches, forcing the Marlins and Orioles postpone their games,
as well as the Phillies and Yankees because the Phillies
were just wrapping up a series with the Fish. Well,
a lot of people, including players, took the social media
to voice their opinions, including David Price, who said quote,
Now we really get to see if MLB is going

(25:24):
to put players health first. Price, of course, decided to
sit out this season because he felt the league and
Rob Manford wasn't taking COVID nineteen seriously enough. But as
a reminder, MLB and Rob Manford did propose a bubble
type atmosphere similar to the NBA and MLS and the
players and the Players Union said no. So there's a

(25:47):
lot of blame to go around on both sides. Hopefully
they figure it out and everyone stay safe. And lastly,
how about Nelson Cruz. Dude forty years old and just
killing it. CRUs one al Player of the Week after
becoming the fourth oldest player in MLB history to have
seven rbids in one game. So if Nelson keeps this up,

(26:09):
when it's all said and done, we could be pretty
sure that Nelson Cruz is the Tom Brady of Major
League Baseball. Take out the it's time for trash talk
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(26:32):
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to a double header for NFL game or an NBA game.
It's never happened, or shouldn't happen. In the long tip,
I mean, let's just say that they used to play
doubleheaders in the NBA years ago, but in this case,
there will be two games on Saturday to make up

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for some of the games that have been lost because
of the pandemic. But you don't see that very often,
but you'll have a traditional doubleheaders Saturday were there'll be
two games for the price of one, which is pretty
pretty amazing. Even in the modern days, you've always had
the day night doubleheader where you have two different crowds

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and whatnot and people coming in and out. Obviously there's
no crowd involved in here, so they'll just play two
games on Saturday, an old fashioned doubleheader, and there'll be
plenty of television watching for Phillies and Blue Jay fans.
I commend Baseball. We're not losing any games doubleheaders for
makeup game from here on out. We can't get it.

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