LeBron James, Tom Brady, Dak Prescott, QB list, & the Astros

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are packed live in Los Angeles. This is the Herd.
Wherever you may be, however you may be listening iHeartRadio,
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next two days. Joey Taylor, how are you? I will
be honest. I spent most of yesterday's sleeping sleeping. That's
significant amount, yes, just chilling out at home and sleeping. Yeah,
like like like how teenagers can sleep like a scene amount.
My daughter takes four and a half. Now, yeah, I
can't do that anymore. I used to be able to
do that, and yesterday I achieved it. So you have
a lot of energy that I'm very well rested. So

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this says to me, I cover football. We cover football
until about you know, the Super Bowl. Than a week
we talk about football, And this is the time I
start watching a lot of NBA games. And last night
I watched Denver and the Lakers, and I'll get more
into the game later, but I want to talk about
Lebron James. He was unbelievable last night. And there's always
been this debate with Michael Jordan and Lebroun, and I've

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always said they're just two different people. And as people age,
I've noticed something they become more of who they truly are.
Because when you get older and you have money and
you don't really need as many things, as you get older,
you become more of who you are. You don't have
to play kate people and be a yes man. And
Brown knows the boss, and you become as you age,

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more of who you truly are. And Lebron I like
the way he ages more than Michael Jordan. Now it
should be noted as the Lakers beat Denver time last
night in Denver, which is saying something that both players
at thirty five years old, mj and Lebron were great.
MJ was the league MVP, twenty nine points a game,
Lebron's averaging twenty five points a game, shooting forty nine percent.

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MJ was the best player in the game. And let's
be honest, Lebron is still the best player, most dominant
player in the NBA and will control the league. Hell
even controls the TV ratings. But here's the stark difference.
And again, as you age, you become more of who
you are. At thirty five, Michael Jordan had the fewest
assists of his Chicago career. Lebron this year has the most.

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And that's who they are. Michael Jordan's answer, and he's
the best basketball player I think I've ever seen. He
Magic Lebron. Michael Jordan's answer to everything was I got this.
Lebron's answer to everything is we got this. As Michael

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became a truer personification of who he was at thirty five,
the fewest assists, Lebron the most. Even their Olympic experiences,
Michael went to the Olympics and was battling Magic to
prove I'm better than you. Lebron goes to the Olympics,
knows he's the best player and tries to create a
community and friendships with other players. If you go listen

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Michael Jordan at this point, at thirty five, Lebron's got
three hundred and twenty more regular season games, four full seasons,
sixty more playoff games. He should be worn down, he
should be beat up. Lebron is fresher, he's happier. I've
never seen him. Last night he was totally laser focused.

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There is no bitterness. Michael Jordan, after his thirty fifth birthday,
quit for a second time, and it really gives you
sort of a view on how to age. Listen, Michael's
a great basketball player, but even as he's retired, he's
just disappeared into his own sort of cocoon. That's not
gonna be how Lebroun retires. He's going to be a
global and domestic basketball ambassador. You'll hear about him all

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the time, not just through press releases like MJ. But
as I looked at Michael Jordan at thirty five years old,
he was great, but it was in his last year
in Chicago. I got this, I'm getting I'm getting another title. Fellas,
get on my shoulders. I got this and that is
seen as bravado and machismo and basketball people love that.
But Michael was burnt out. He retired for a second time,

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and he waited a few years and went to Washington
and was never the same player. I watched Lebron last night,
three hundred twenty more games than MJ sixty more playoff games.
He is so fresh and so good and so focused
and so easy to play with. Last night, He's got done.
He's got the most assist now in his career. He's
averaging eleven and a half a game. And by the way,
they only have one other real true score. It's not

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like he's got seven guys he can depend on. Kyle
Kuzma is their number three and he's averaging fifteen sixteen
a night. So I like the way Lebron is aged.
I like his base DNA. Lebron's gonna age incredibly well
and is aging. He is an incredibly fresh seventeenth year
in the NBA. I see very little wear and tear.

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I see no bitterness. I see a focused loving into it.
We got this DNA guy, And I know you can
call Michael the best ever. I get it. But I
talk about this with my wife all the time. I
don't want to be a crusty, old, bitter guy when
I retire, doing you know, Winnebago commercials on local radio.
I want to age well. I want to be happy.

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I want to be part of a community. I want
to make other people better. I look at Lebron last
night in Denver, a tough place to play. I'm blown
away by it. This guy has figured out how to
do it. Surround yourself, lean on people, ask for some help,
pass the ball more. It's not like Lebron couldn't go
out and score thirty three a night. You watch a

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game last night. Nobody can stop him. Denver's got no
answer for him. Utah's got no answer for him. The
only team in the NBA that has an answer for
him Milwaukee with the honest at the rim and the
Clippers on the wing with Paul George and Kawai. Nobody
else has an answer for Lebron. Utah to never guy
to guard him. Houston doesn't. Portland's got Carmelo in the wing.
He can't stop him. Lebron can score. There's a great

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stat about Lebron James. My favorite Lebron stat of all
time is that Lebron in high school, I think his
junior year, John, you can look it up that my
numbers aren't exact, But Lebron as a junior in high
school average like you know, twenty seven twenty eighty game.
You know, like freshman he averaged this, then sophomore, then junior.
So you could think Lebron as a junior in high

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school's average in like twenty seven points a game. What
did he average thirty nine or forty a senior year. No,
he didn't, he didn't. He averaged a point or two
more as he was in his massive growth stage. Is
That's who Lebron is. That's why he's happy, That's why

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he's not quitting for the second time. That's why he
doesn't turn off all his teammates like MJ did when
he went to Washington, where nobody could stand playing with him.
Last night, they asked Anthony Davis, what do you make
of Lebron? And he's like, well, he's the best player
on the team. The players love him. I mean, what
did what did Joy and I say the amazing thing

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about this Laker team when they added a D and
all these parts. The first thing we said, Joy and
I said the first month was hell. They're like best friends.
Their chemistry is incredible. Michael's last stop, nobody could stand him.
And this is not to bash Michael Jordan, but watching
Lebron play with the joy and the focus and the

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happiness and the sharing and the most assists. That's how
I want to age. That's how you do it. That's
how you do it. You give a little, you know,
it's a I got this, it's a we got this,
and it's it is a pleasure to watch. All right. Well,
the Interweb for those of you just tuning in, that's
the Internet. It was Al Gore created it years ago,

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I think, and it's called the Interweb. I'm on it
all day, and boy it went crazy yesterday when my
friend Bucky Brooks, who played in the NFL that sort
of matters and scouted for the Carolina Panthers and now
he works for the NFL network, he came out and
oh scary times. On the Interweb. He listed his top
five quarterbacks. Oh, Joe Burrow wasn't number one. In fact,

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Bucky Brooks top five quarterbacks were the exact order I
would put them in to a number one, Joe Burrow
number two, Justin Herbert very close to to a three,
Jordan Love four, and Jacobieson five. By the way, until
mid November. You do realize everybody had two over Joe

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Burrow in mid November. But what happened, and this happens
a lot in sports. You get these perfect storms and
Joe Burrow, nobody will admit this. I like the kid,
but he had a perfect storm. LSU rolled the dice
on a coach from the Saints named Joe Brady. None
of us knew who he was, and Joe Brady ended

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up being a perfect fit. LSU's offensive line was named
the number one offensive line in the country this year.
They had a star running back, two star receivers, and
a good tight end. They also played two when he
was about sixty percent, and then they got to play
the National Championship, you know, as a home game in
New Orleans. It was a perfect storm, perfect storm for

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Joe Burrow, who, it should be noted, is a fifth
year senior. That's what I said about Baker Mayfield. Be
careful about Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield came into the NFL
older than Sam Darnold, older than Lamar Jackson, so he
was closer to his ceiling. I think what you see
of Baker is his ceiling. I think what you see

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Joe Burrow. This is his fifth year, he's transferred. Last
year at Lash was numbers were average. He's an older quarterback,
closer to his athletic ceiling. Tuah didn't have to wait
until his fifth year to be great. He was remarkable
at nineteen as a true freshman, called on in the
National Championship against a great Georgia team and delivered three

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touchdown passes to win the game. Take a deep breath.
Until mid November, two was number one on everybody's board.
Then he got banged up. People are freaking out and
they've moved him down. I'll say it again. It happens
in sports, and it happens all the time. You get

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this perfect storm of events. You play Oklahoma first, you
don't have to play Ohio State first in the playoff.
You get the championship at home. You bring in an
assistant that takes an average Joe Burrow and fits perfectly.
You have the best offensive line, a star running back,
great La Shoe wide receivers. You played two when he's
sixty percent. I love Tuah. I like Joe Burrow. But

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loving Tuah doesn't mean you hate Joe Burrow. I just
think it was a perfect series of events that allowed
Ed Orgeron, a guy that lost a Troy at home
in his second year at LSU, to be named national
coach of the Year. I'm gonna bet that never happens again,
and I'm happy for Ed and he'll win a bunch
of games, but he was on his way out by

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year three if they lost one more game. It was
such a perfect year for LSU that Ed Orgeron fired
at Old Miss USC wouldn't give him a shot about
the kit candid LSU when the national coach of the
Year deserves it. Happy for him, good guy, great story,
But I think Ed's story at this point is leaked

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his coaching ability. He's a solid coach, He's not the
best college football coach, and Joe Burrows story and perfect
storm has leaped his ability arm solid size, okay, athletic ability,
solid good. Tuah's accuracy is Drew Breese great Interweb. Take

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a deep breath. We get these perfect storms all the time,
and they elevate coaches and players. I love Tuah, I
like Burrow and Bucky Brooks nailed it, Tua Burrow, Herbert
Love jacobieson coming up next. Oh, we have a we
have a former Patriot now living in Boston that says,

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forget Brady. New England is done with Brady. One hundred
percent done with Brady. That's what he said. We'll address
that coming up. A new leader in the clubhouse, potentially
for Tom Brady's next football operation. Be sure to catch
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blades available at Walmart. I can't believe how much we
have today. You know, in our business, everybody knows. You know,
there's football season. Then you have the NBA playoffs in
February March are kind of considered a downtime. It's amazing
to me how much good stuff we have going on

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the NBA season. I'm telling you, I watched Denver Lakers
last night. It felt like a playoff game. It really
did these teams. Now this is when I start really
watching the NBA watching you know more than just quarters
and highlights. And I'll get to that Laker Denver game
because I thought it said of volumes about what you're
gonna get from Denver in the playoffs and what you're
going to get from the Lakers. But I want to

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talk about this. We now have and I noticed this
about nine months ago when Adam Schefter, a friend of
mine and somebody I respect, somebody everybody at Fox respects
NFL reporters, said this Brady thing, he's going to look around.
Don't kid yourself on this. So this is not Slappy
the blogger, it's Adam Schefter. Christian Fourier, a former NFL

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or Patriot now works in Boston Media, came out yesterday
and said Tom's done, and they're done with Tom. New
England's done with Tom Now again, I have my beliefs
on where he's going to go, but there's three or
four things we have to all be honest about here.
We now have legitimate reporters who I trust, and players

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that know Tom that are saying these are not Again,
these are not bloggers quoting each other. These are real people.
We also know that Brady and Belichick. Jay Glazer reported
Tom's not taken a pay cut. We also know Belichick
generally doesn't pay anybody, I mean outside of Stefan Gilmore, anybody.

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We've seen tension in this relationship. We know that. I
can tell you I have one thing sourced. Brady is
privately grumbling to those close to him about the lack
of weapons and New England's inability over the last five
or six years post Randy Moss to get weapons and
keep weapons, and aft and develop weapons. These are all
things you can't dispute. So I've been thinking a lot

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about this this morning on our show. We love pies.
We love a good, delicious pie, and I was going
to do a Brady pie this morning because I think
it's it's at least optically, it's the easiest thing to
put your arms around seventy percent of the pie. I
think Tom's going back to New England, not because he's
totally happy, but moving at his age, learning a new

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offense is a pain in the rear. I'll give one
percent to retirement. He just throws his hands up in
the air. Four percent a surprise team. I just don't
buy the Chargers. I don't I have connections to the franchise.
I don't buy them. I don't buy Oakland. I don't
care that he bought a house there. I don't buy that.
I don't buy Miami a team I'm gonna throw out there.

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And the more I think about this, I think they're
the favorite in the clubhouse. Beyond New England, it's the
Tennessee Titans. And I'll tell you why I think this.
I've moved four times in my career across the country,
and I was comfortable and making a lot of money
in all the places. But when you move, you always
move for the same reasons. You choose a place that

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is solving a current headache. Every place I left there
was an obstacle or a headache, and I wanted to
solve it, and I didn't believe I could solve it.
Sort of like Brady. What are Brady's two annoyances in
New England that he can't solve? Number One, Belichick will

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not spend money on weapons. He doesn't. He wouldn't spend
it on his buddy Welker. He doesn't. And Tom can't
overcome that because Tom can't control acquisitions and trades. So
Tom can't control that, So he wants better weapons. Secondly,
is he wants to have more fun. He wants to

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have fun. He's got the money. In the titles Bill's
not Fun, Bills uncometer bull. They don't have a relationship really,
so just think of the one place that solves both
of those, the two annoyances Tom can't fix fun. Mike

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Vrabel is one of his best friends. He coaches Tennessee.
He'd have fun with Mike Vrabel. Number two is they
have excellent weapons. Arguably the best running back in the league.
They've got two excellent receivers. A rookie last year from
All Miss crushed it. They've got a slot receiver Adam Humphreys,
and a lot of draft picks. They solve the annoyances

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that are currently unsolvable. He would have a lot more fun,
and they've got weapons. Nashville is also a cool city.
I don't think that's the be all end all, but
if you said Indianapolis or Nashville, most people with money
and options would choose Nashville as a place to live.
I certainly would joy if given an option, probably would
I think Tom Brady would. I don't think that's the
be all end all, but I do think Nashville is
a fun, cool, hip city where you know, it's still

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most of the Eastern time zone. I think Nashville to
me kind of gain steam and the other thing that
matters here. You know, they've said before it's easier for
a child's brain to learn a new language than an
older person. That it's my daughter can speak French at
twelve and thirteen and fourteen years old. She picked up French.
Like that. If you're trying to get me to figure

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out how to speak French, good luck. Picking up a
new language later in life is hard. Tennessee speaks Tom's language.
Mike Vrabel knows his culture and his language. The GMS
a former patriot. There are patriots all through the building.
They're not all through the building in Indie or Miami

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or Oakland or the Chargers, they're not. There's a couple
in Miami, a couple. So between solving the two annoyances,
he'd have more fun, and he'd have more weapons, and
the reality that in an incredibly winnable division, and that
you talk about a place he could go tomorrow. A
Jacksonville dysfunctional Houston, Indianapolis doesn't have a quarterback. He walks

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in can win a division. They speak my language. I'd
have fun and I'd have weapons. Here's my Tom Brady,
my official final Tom Brady Delicious Pie. Seventy percent, New
England twenty five percent, Titans four percent, Shocker one percent.
I give up. I'm quitting joy with the news. No, no,

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this is the herd Line newsoking that little skinny four
percent slice. That is I don't believe it true. But
I mean we get shocked all the time. Yeah, so
so that is a I didn't I didn't see Kevin
Durant going to the Warriors. I didn't see it. I whipped.
I was wrong. I acknowledge it. Sometimes I get shocked.
And my thing is, with all this noise, why would

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need to stay in New England's That's why I have
it at seventy percent. I don't know. That's why I
think my big look at Tom in the middle of
that pie, he looks like he wants a pizza pie. Well,
time is sticking for the Cowboys to get a deal
done with Dak Prescott, which is one of the teams
that we've talked about possibly being in that pie. And
in an interview with Kimberly Martin of Yahoo Sports. He

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sidestepped a question of how much he thinks that contract
should be worth. Are you a forty million dollars quarter right?
You tell me. I'm asking you. It's your contracts if
it's my call to right it? Yeah, no, talent. I mean,
let's be honest, right. I mean, like I said before,
I mean, I trust my agent, I trust the Cowboys.
Something will get done. We're not gonna sit here and
put a number on it. Something will happen. When are

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we going to see you get paid? That's what everybody
wants to know. Yeah, I mean I'm wondering the same thing.
Y'all know just as much as me love when that
day comes. But I've confidence in my agency, My agent
is my team. I've got commidist in the Cowboys. Some
don't get done. We're really interested to see what we
hear about the what was actually going on here once
the contract is done, because I think we're all assuming

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that they are going to get a contract done. I
do think it's I don't think they franchise sag him. Yeah,
I mean I think I would consider it, but I
don't think they'll consider it. Well, when you look at
what the highest paid quarterbacks are because the report was
that he had turned down thirty three million dollars, So
Russell Wilson this is the annual average value in twenty twenty.

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Russell Wilson is the highest with thirty five million, Ben
Roethlisberger thirty four million. And then you get into the
range that they reportedly offered Dak, which was be Jared
Goff and Aaron Rodgers at thirty three point five, and
Carson Wentz is kind of to me the comp to Dak. Now,
obviously a lot of people feel that Carson Wentz is
more talented than Dak, but in my opinion, availability is
a skill, and Carson Wentz has been injured a lot

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fair and they came in same year obviously not the
same round, but their records are similar. Dak Prescott has
won a playoff game, obviously Carson Wentz has not. But
he was obviously a part of that season where they
won the Super Bowl, and he was not the quarterback
of it because he got injured. But you know, to me,
they're just like, okay, you can put this here and
this year and then this year and this year with
Dak and Carson and he's making thirty two million don't

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see them paying him an astronomical amount higher than thirty
three million, So maybe they set a little like thirty
five and as the cap goes up thirty three, you'll
feel like twenty nine. Now, well, that's my argument with this.
We know that Patrick Mahomes is going to get a
ridiculous contract, as he should, and he deserves it, and
that makes sense, and anyone would pay Patrick Mahomes whatever
it is that he wanted. But the cap goes up.

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All of these contracts when they were first signed seemed unbelievable,
even at the highest level of talent. It changes, and
then eventually you're not the highest paid, and then another
guy gets paid, and this is how it goes. I
know Cowboys fans don't want this to happen, but he's
been playing on a fourth round rookie contract. He's not
made any money. The thing you don't want in the
NFL joy is chaos at quarterback. So they have Dak,

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you won't have chaos. Well that's my question. What's the option. Okay,
so you franchise Tag him and then next year you
franchise Tag because I mean, he's gonna be more expensive
next year. Yeah, I mean I think I would franchise
tag him, draft a quarterback perhaps, but I have but
I don't think that's going to happen. I think Dallas
is too big of a brand to be chaotic at quarterback.
I think they're just the brand is worth too much money.

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If the Cowboys go at Nate, they're on every network
and the value of the franchise goes up, and life
is good in Dallas. If you go eat Nate, you
got a bunch of people on sports radio like me
and you ripping him. But eight Nate for Dallas is
way better than oh, hell, we don't have a quarterback,
And so I think that alone gets Dak a six
five year deal. The only time the Cowboys are not
relevant is if they're completely awful. The one is when

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they don't have a quarterback. Yeah, it's the year they
had chaos at quarterback, right, It's not It's not worth
the risk to me. So Cam Newton is still recovering
from a foot injury that ended his twenty nineteen season,
and Panther's owner David Tepper wants to know Cam's final
health status before making a decision on his future with
the team. Where do you stand do you think he'll
be back. Listen, I'm not a doctor, you know, and

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I said it a million times. Is he healthy? And
how does he? I mean, he's not a doctor, so
you know, just a lot of different things can happen,
But first, is is he healthy? To tell me that,
and then we can talk very ball the question of
how healthy is foot and otherwise, And that's still the
number one overwhelming thing to see how healthy is and
how we can figure out when he's healthy or not well.

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Cam has said he absolutely expects to be with the
Panthers next season, and they do have to find out
what happened and how he's recovering from his surgery that
he had in September. In December, it was a successful
Liz Frank surgery. Remember he was trying to rehab it
and eventually they just had the surgery. And that was
against the Patriots during the third preseason game that he
had that injury. In miss fourteen games this season with

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that injury, and then he had a shoulder injury in
twenty and eighteen. So obviously Cam, we know Cam plays hurt.
That's that's the book on Cam. He's very tough. He
plays through injuries, which to me, can sometimes be a
detriment because then you're obviously making it worse. But you know,
as David Ever said, none of us are doctors. Yeah,
I expect to see him there next year, though, Yeah,
I think i'd move on. If what I would do

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if I was Carolina, I'd move on and I'd move
up in the draft and I'd go get a quarterback
because I know, if I started a show, which I've
done before, I like a clean slate. Mostly. I like
the clean slate. Like when when a football coach Mel
Tucker left Colorada goes to Michigan State, he's gonna get
rid of even some really good coaches at Michigan State
because he wants his own guys. I think if I

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was a new owner and a nude coach, I just
want my own guy and none of the other stuff.
Unless my guy was Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson or Mahomes,
then I inherited a superstar. But I but how I
would do it is just, hey, appreciate your service. We're
gonna let you move on. We're moving up in the draft,
and that's that's what I would do. Well, he's in
the final year of his contract, it has its twenty
one point one million dollars cap hit. Ye cheap. If

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they trade him or decide to cut him, they could
save nineteen million dollars. Yes, so, I mean, I do
think there's a value if you're gonna take a young
quarterback to have a veteran guy in that place. But
Cam Newton maybe too much of a star, yes, to
be in that role. That's what I think. So. Finally,
a report surface yesterday that the Detroit's could book to
move on from Matthew Stafford and draft their next quarterback

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with a third overall pick this year. But according to
GM Bob Quinn, trading Stafford is not of the team's plan.
He told the Detroit Free Press that the rumors the
Lions are shopping Matthew Stafford are one hundred percent false. Okay, now,
he missed eight games last season with a back injury,
and then Stafford's wife fueled some rumors by posting on
our Instagram story that if Detroit is done with us,

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I could stay in Callie in reference to the Chargers. However,
his cap hit is twenty one point three million. Yes,
it moves up to thirty two millions if he's traded
and he's shaded before his twenty twenty option bonuses exercise.
It would transfer to his new team and it would go.
The hit would be twenty four point eight million. Yeah,
that's probably what they would work. Again. Matt Stafford's fine,

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he has value on the market. The Chargers would take
him today if they could. I really believe that. I
just I think I've seen eleven years in Detroit and
no division titles. I'm about listen. I'm ready to move
off Jameis Winston. Somebody will get him. I'm ready to
move off Matt Stafford. Somebody will get him. It's not
that I don't like these guys. I just think this

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franchise needs juice. I think Detroit's boring, bad going nowhere.
I think it needs to reboot as a franchise. Again,
we're not talking about these guys on a personal level. Yes,
So it's never about this guy's great, that guy's nice,
like they're all great people. It's not about that what
are you doing on the field? To me, Matthew Stafford
has just been a guy like what is what has happened?

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And he's not been a guy that makes big plays
late in games, which is increasing do you always say
the NFL's about winning, doesn't win enough. It's like Andy
Dalton doesn't win enough. What do you want from me?
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to be Mercedes. Oh yeah, Mercedes the best or nothing.
Let's segue into this. So I suggested a couple of
days ago, I said, I like matt Stafford, but there's
about I know that Indianapolis and the chart Church would
take him tomorrow if they could. There's no doubt in
my mind. I know both gms. I haven't talked to him,
but I know how they think. Stafford's got a good

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four to five years laft, probably at least two to
three prime. I think it's time for a reboot in Detroit.
That was met with resistance all over the internet. You
covered him, am I nuts, No you're not. And if
I was still in Detroit, I'd drive him to the airport.
I mean, come on with the Matthew Stafford eleven years,
no playoff wins. He was the first overall pick. It's

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not that hard. The Lions have won one playoff game
Colin since nineteen fifty seven. I mean, let's let's be
honest and if you're not winning, he hasn't done it.
He just hasn't done it. To have him one enough,
you just says though. I hear Lion fans crushed me
yesterday because I said I'd take two h if since
he goes Burrow, I take two at three. He's juice.

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I think he's a better talent. I don't care about
the medical stuff. Carson Wentz has medical issues in college.
In the pros. I him whatever I have to pay him.
People said this, though Stafford is the only thing that's
redeemable about Detroit. Totally wrong. And the fans they're in
Detroit are delusional. They're still beat down. They have him
won anything that they think that he's something special because

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he allows them to be seven and nine every year
or stay in the mix. Seriously, and it's ridiculous. I'm
with you. The Lions won't do it because they've never
gone out and taken a chance on a special talent.
I'm one with you. Go get to move on the
other teams that need a quarter. When you are doing
radio in Detroit, what would your callers say on Stafford

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because you were very you called him stat Pafford because
of him patting his numbers. So what did your callers
say that that would always say, Oh, you're just a hater.
Look at his numbers. He've got Hall of Fame numbers,
but he doesn't have the wins. It's about what I
always say, sports as a short menu, wins and losses.
That's what it comes down too. You can't look at

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its football is not that hard. Where the Lions have it,
you know what, They've had so much, so much trouble
with making even first round picks. You probably have a
better chance, Colin, of picking out a good peach at
the supermarket than they have picking out a number one
player that has been an impactful player to the organization. Well,
they're brand at this point as a franchise. Is our
hall of famers quit early? They've had two great players

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walk out on them, and you don't even mention in
domin con sued and quit but walked out on him
as well. They had three great players walk out on them.
And that's why when you look at Bob Quinn's the GM.
He can't keep doing the same old thing. They ran
Jim Cardwell out of there. Remember they said nine and
seven wasn't good enough. And now Matt Patricia is the coach.

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He's won nine games in his first two years. Is
that good? It's amazing because Cleveland's bad, but we talk
about him. Oakland's dysfunctional, but we talk about him. The
Giants are a mess, but we talk about him. They
have brands. Detroit has no brand and they don't win.
It's this idea you would have thought I suggested that,
you know, the Chiefs trade Patrick Mahomes. It's incredible. Can

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I give you a fun fact on the lines when
and I used to go to all the games when
I was a columnist at the Detroit News. Yeah, those
were the days. But those were the days. And you
ready for this. They lost under Matt Millan when he
was a GM twenty four straight road games twice. Twenty
four straight road games twice. Can you imagine that in
this NFL would all the parody? I mean, that's how

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bad it's been in Detroit. And people need to wake
up and move away from the same old, same old.
They'd rather be like, win a few games, but that's here.
That's who you are. You moved out of Detroit to
move to Bristol and now Los Angeles. So you who
are not you're my wife's from Michigan. People that grow
up in Michigan like to stay in Michigan. That's not
your m oh you're from the Queens. You're from Queens.

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You worked in Michigan, but you've always been a world traveler,
so it's easy for you to say move on. You
are a mover owner. That's who you are in your life.
A lot of people in Michigan they he's their guy.
He's better than the other guys we've had. But I
just don't understand, seriously, with football, when you see it
used to be a joke about remember the ants, right
when people roar bags over the head with it was

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the Aints, the Cardinals, and the Lions. All of them
couldn't win. The Saints won a Super Bowl, the Cardinals
went to a Super Bowl that took Santonio home to
have that great catch to take that Super Bowl away
from them to remember. And the Lions still haven't been there.
They haven't even sniffed it. Think about that they haven't
even won a division title in the inn are outraged

(32:37):
that I suggested, you know, there's two of kids. Good,
I'd roll the dice and move off. I would roll
the dice. Okay, stick around, and we've matched a lot
from you today as a company. You did that show,
you're doing this show. Stick around because I'm gonna get
you to admit Lebron does one thing greater than MJ.
And you're you're gonna have to admit it because I'm
gonna you're going to You're gonna pay me into a corner.
I gotta see this, Rob Parker, it up next. Be

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sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays and
Noon Easter ninety. I'm pacific, you know, I think Rob Parker,
you're a happy guy, and you're fun and you're playful.
You've i would say, you have aged well. And we
all know Joy is aging beautifully if she's still young.
No're young, we're old and you, but you have aged well.
You're not bitter, you're happy, you're funny, you laugh. I've

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never been happier in life. I feel the exact same way.
I feel like I'm the luckiest guy in the world.
I was telling my son yesterday the gratitude I have.
I told my daughter last week, I said, if you
can be, if you can work for a company that
treats you like I'm treated, you hit it out of
the park. Blah blah blah. Sucking up for the bosses now.
I so I tend to surround myself with people who
age similarly. They're happy, They're into their kids, they're into

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their wife, they're into their I don't like bitter people.
At thirty five, having played three hundred and sixty more
games and sixty more playoff games, Lebron James is the happiest,
the most focused. His assist I've never been higher. He's
playing to elevate others. Michael Jordan at thirty five, was

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just about to quit for a second time and disappear
his assists at thirty five, with the lowest of his career.
He stopped passing. I'll do it myself. That MJ's gotta
I got this DNA. Lebron's gotta we got this DNA.
And I'm watching Lebron last night against Denver. He is
so joyful, he is sharing. I've never seen him pass

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this much. We view that as a weakness in sports,
You can't carry your team. But what makes Patrick Mahomes
great He loves sharing in the joy. It's not all
about Patrick. Sometimes with Aaron Rodgers, you and I think
it's all about Aaron. Michael didn't age as well as Lebron.
Look at what he did last night. It's thirty two

(34:49):
fourteen eleven rebounds. Anthony Davis is like, I've never had
more fun. Danny Green is like, it's incredible. How good
our chemistry is. You say that now until they lose
to the Clippers in a playoffs and let's see how
happy everybody is. I mean, Colin, I hear you. I
still would take Michael Jordan at thirty five. You were
coming off a championship and maybe you know when when

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we talk about michael's all about him. He was the
ultimate competitor, always wanted to win, it was and he
took on the brunt of everything that came his way.
I mean, was he tough one teammates, yes, they were,
but there were other guys who made big shots where
he went to them and said, be ready, I'm gonna
pass you the ball. Steve Kerr, be ready, it's coming.

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And he was a part of that, he shared, it
wasn't always he had to be talked out of being
a ballhog by Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson said, listen, do
you want to score sixty or do you want to
be a winner, because right now you're just a guy
that nobody wants to play with, even though you're great.
Lebron's never had to be talked out of share. Here's
the other problem, though, how come guys didn't want to

(35:54):
play with Lebron other than a D was a part
of the management team. Don't think about this other than
a D. That's all. But Kawhi Leonard could have easily
been here. How easy would his life have been with
a D Lebron him? He's still in La, his hometown,
still in LA, playing in the same building, load management,

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and then they would be winning the next three or
four championship. And you know what he's said, No, thank you,
Paul George is from here. He had two chances to
come here, to remember the first time. Wouldn't even talk
to Magic Johnson, wouldn't even give him a meeting, wouldn't
no part of it. So I hear what you're saying
about Lebron. But let's be honest. He's had a hard
time attracting people. No, Kyrie Irving, the earth is flat,

(36:41):
got tired of him. Kawhi Leonard love him, but odd
and unique as a personality. So I'm okay if I
land Anthony Davis, but Quirky Kawhi wants something different. He
doesn't even have an agent. And Kyrie Irving, who doesn't
like any buddy who do the work. I mean, let's
be honest about Kyrie. Okay, but his teammates don't like him,

(37:05):
his coaches don't like him. If you land a D,
it eliminates the argument that nobody wants to play with him.
The first or second best free agent chose him. If
A D wasn't a part of the management team, I
would buy into that argument. But he was a part
of the Lebron brand and Rich Paul. That's all I'm saying. No, no, no,

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he won with Rich Paul first, and then Lebron got there.
It's the other way around. He joined in and then
oh yeah, well he uhould play with Lebron. I get it.
I'm not mad at a D. If he wanted to
come to LA or whatnot. He hasn't committed a did
D Wade and Chris Bosh, two super smart guys want
to play with Lebron. No, right, Lebron wanted to play
with him. Remember he went to Miami. Let me tell

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you some Did he not go to Miami or did
they come to Cleveland to play with Lebron? Which one
was it? Well, Lebron decided I want to be part
of something special. They got on the phone and conjoined
and we're all on board. It wasn't like you beat
me by nine seconds. You're flight landed sooner on the tarmac.
In the end, I always hear this, nobody wants to
play with Lebron. So d Wade, one of the most

(38:10):
beloved players in league history, wanted to Chris Bosh as
a not as smart a player as the league. I
mean is Chris Bosh could run a team. Anthony Davis
is at least the first or second best free agent
available outside of Lebron in the last five years. They
all want to play with Lebron. Kuki Kyrie does it?
And Kawhi who's one about? Paul George who's from here

(38:31):
Palm Dale? Not that far. I'm just asking he had
a chance to come. Everybody thought all the Laker fans
wanted him right, he wanted to come home. He talked
about it for two years. Lebron came when he was traded, right,
but Lebron came, Yeah, and then all of a sudden
he didn't want to He didn't want to come, and
then there was then all of a sudden he wanted
to come back to La but to play with Kauwhai.

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That's all I'm saying is that there are guys who
looked like they didn't want to play Kawhi have all,
by the way, had an easier road with Lebron. And
all I'm saying and is who wanted to play with
MJ at the end, not even his own team at
the end. It was it wasn't pretty. And sometime when
you have guys who are like that, who are driven,
who just winning means everything to him. Wasn't friendly about people.

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I could see that where he wasn't friendly. But you
never said to yourself, he doesn't work hard, he's not
all that fun is good? Winning is better than fun. Well,
remember this, Michael Jordan didn't win anything. Between James Worthy
at North Carolina and Scottie Pippen. He went eight years,
it didn't win anything, and then Phil Jackson and Scottie

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Pippen arrived and suddenly Michael just he's is just a winner.
He wasn't a winner for eight out of ten years
in a decade, all right, And so how many how
many times did Scottie Pippen win the MVP of the finals?
How many times did he win a those six championship?
Michael was a score. Scottie is a slasher. Lebron is
a giver. Michael was a taker. But you're almost out

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of words here. You know that you were good on
that Stafford thing. Now got your cornered. You said you're
gonna pay me into a quarter, and I'm just trying
to think of can you at least acknowledge? Lebron is
aged incredibly. I'll give you that. I'll give you that.
He is playing with such joy and he shares the ball.
It's it's a joy to watch he's playing. He's playing great.

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I know where he's averaging twenty five points, his second
lowest totalever. You know, I got the assist up. You
know he could average thirty. You and I know that.
And last year he played really well despite him not
making the playoffs. Right, his numbers were good, So I
get the part of about that. Lebron is that kind
of guy. I was pretty good for you. That's good
for me. As you can. You didn't come around you.

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You moved the meter about ten percent. It's Rob Parker.
He's on a great radio show, The Odd Couple with
Chris Brussard, who threw up today and had to go
home sick. I'm hoping that Chris. Chris is not going
to be working tonight on the show. You got sick,
Feel better? You know what? I thought? It was something
I said, but I think it's a film. I've almost
shown up on some of your taxes, but this was
This was influenza. Get better, Chris our tune in one

(41:02):
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(41:22):
We're on IR Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS one.
Everybody tells me this is the slow time of the year.
We have a ton to talk about today. We have
a million things to talk about. Joy Taylor is joining me.
I have never watched the ton of NBA in October, November, December, January.
I don't think the teams care much. You get into
mid February, late February, and then you start watching these
NBA games and the players are into it. You can

(41:44):
tell the good teams start to dial stuff in the
trading deadlines over so you're stuck with what you got.
You know, you can't go to the social media and
demand this or demand this. At this point. The teams
are what they are. This is what they are, and
I watch I watched the Lakers and the Nuggets last
night in Denver. It was a great game, and it
was a great game, and it felt like a playoff game.
It felt like a playoff. Yeah, yeah, you could see this.

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You can now. Jannis took the night off from Milwaukee
and they couldn't score, so you can do that way
as well. But last night I watched Denver and at
home a very good team. And then I watched the Lakers,
and I have said about Denver after Yokitch and then
I like Jamal Murray, they don't have a third guy

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you just can't go into and they're really really young.
Last night, it's a great example of why Denver is
not going to get out of the West yet, and
why the Lakers have a chance to get out of
the West and win it all. Although I don't think
the Lakers should be favorite, last night showed you all
the limitations of Denver, and it showed you why the
Lakers are going to end up at minimum in the

(42:48):
Western Conference finals. And I said this two days ago.
So I watched the game last night and it was
classic second quarter. Yokich, a great player, gets cold. It
doesn't do anything. He's just he's done. They get outscore
eighteen to two. Jamal Murray disappears, and they don't have
a third score. That's Denver's problem. You can't rely on
Yokis to be dominant for forty eight minutes. Players have

(43:11):
dry spells, players get fatigued. Players he did, he kind
of disappears, and there's nobody else in the building for Denver, nobody.
Jamal Murray shot three times, missed all of them. They
don't have a third score. Gary Harris is not going
to get you to the next You can't depend on him.
It showed all the limitation to Denver. Denver's at home,
it's high altitude, it's the day before the All Star Game.

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It's Denver's game to win. They got the home crowd,
they're standing as they tip it off, and they have
a dry spell in the first half and debt, and
then late in the game. Denver has twenty four year
old yo kids, twenty two year old Jamal Murray, twenty
five year old Gary Harris, one starter over thirty years old,
over twenty five excuse me, one starter over twenty five
years old. Late in the game and overtime. They just

(43:55):
couldn't make the play. Of course they couldn't because they're kids.
And the Lakers who have Rondo Dwight Howard was once
carrying a team to the finals. You got Javal McGee,
Avery Bradley, Lebron James, you have all this playoff experienced.
The Lakers go to Denver, high altitude, game goes to overtime.
They should be gas with their old roster, and the
Lakers made all the big plays late. And that's what

(44:18):
the playoffs are for an old team, day before the
All Star Game, to go into high altitude Denver and
to be able to go to overtime. I mean that place.
It's a different altitude, folks. You're not playing at sea level,
playing up in the mountains. It buries teams. Even average
Denver teams are good at home. The Lakers made all
the crucial steel couple threes by ad they tie up,

(44:41):
create a jump ball, all the crucial plays late by
all the veteran Laker players, and that young team in
Denver doesn't make them. And that's the playoffs. This is
why Denver can win a playoff series, potentially could win
a second, but they'll never to me, never win the
Way Eastern Conference finals. Last night. It's a great example.

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It was a playoff game in February. That's what a
playoff game feels like. And it was a classic game.
The Lakers will end up winning those in the playoffs
because they have all these sage veterans. I mean Dwight
Howard's coming off the bench, and this is a guy
who's been two NBA finals. This is the guy who
was a leader of a franchise. He's not what he
used to be. He's been a hell of a player
for the for the Lakers this year off the bench

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and then I'm not a Rondo fan, but Avery Rondo javail.
It was that game told you exactly what you're gonna
see in April. Young talented Denver team that needs a
third guy and count count on anybody when Yokich is
a little off or as a dry spell for six minutes,
and a Laker team that's gonna get out played certain

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nights and figure out a way to win because they
have all these KG veterans. Lebron talked about the game
last night, which which you could tell clearly he felt
like this is a big one because we may end
up plan at Denver in the playoffs, and we want
to let them know these are the games will win.
Every opportunity that we get to play in a close

(46:05):
game or it's a tough opponent. Um, you know, it's
a learning experience for all of us. It prepares us,
you know, for a postseason game where it's gonna be
back and forth, back and forth. I thought tonight was
a playoff atmosphere of both teams being number one and
number two in the West Conference, you know, jocking for positions,
so you know, just trying to make plays whatever it takes,
you know, on the offensive, vent on a defensive vent
and uh, you know, and an eighty was there, you know,

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knocking down big threes, getting a block, getting some stops.
You know. It was just it was got the got
the jump ball as well, just a big time all
the big players Spectrum sports Net, thanks for the video there,
all the big players late, the old team that should
be tired and ot getting ready for a nice all
star break, made all the big plays late. The young
guys did not welcome to what the playoffs look like

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in April, May and ju All right, let's shift to this.
Dak Prescott was asked a couple of days ago as
he worth forty million dollars, and Dak shot back, what
do you think to the reporter? People tend to use
They tend to use words like deserve. Let's just talk

(47:10):
about what contract negotiations are. Here's the word leverage. It's
not about deserving. I've never been paid because I deserve something.
I've been paid a lot of money. If I have
some leverage, the company needs me at least a little bit,
and maybe I have other offers. It's called leverage. It's
not called deserve or earn. Dak has some leverage here
because the Cowboys don't have anybody behind him that can play,

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and it's the world's well, it's America's big as sports brand.
That's leverage forget, deserve and earn. Dak's got some leverage.
Cowboys have some leverage on the open market. Dak's not
getting a lot of offers for thirty seven million. Let's
start with zero and work our way down. So they
both have leverage, different kinds of leverage, and because of that,

(47:53):
a deal will get done. Now it just comes down
to a certain number, but the deal will get done
because Dad needs them on the open market, He's not
getting this money and the Cowboys need him. They don't
want to go into chaos mode at quarterback. That's a nightmare.
The one time they did, Networks took Cowboy games off
and Jerry loves the publicity. Now the concern is, we

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have a quarterback in Dak that is going to get
paid a lot of money thirty five thirty six million.
If you look at the current quarterbacks that are making
that kind of money, Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl,
Ben won two, Jared Goff got to one, Aaron got
to one in one, Carson Wentz was having an MVP
year when he got hurt, clearly shown the ability to
carry a team, and Matt Ryan got to should have

(48:36):
but didn't win a super Bowl. Dak with the best
a line with the best running back has a playoff win.
That's a concern. Here's the reality with Dak. He doesn't misstarts,
got excellent leadership qualities, and he keeps in most NFL
games that in his leverage, is going to get him

(48:56):
probably thirty five million bucks cap goes up, it won't
hurt nearly as much. Here's my biggest problem with Dak
and why I would probably franchise tag him. Here's my
problem when I say the word Apple, Google, Amazon, those
are massive brands. They are imperfect and flawed, but they
don't really have a ceiling. If I say Real Madrid,

(49:19):
Manchester United international sports teams, they are imperfect and have
bad seasons, but they never have low ceilings. They can
go get and pay for who they want. When I
say Dallas Cowboys, Los Angeles Lakers and New York Yankees,
I'm not asking for perfect, but I would never want
to be trapped and feel like I have a low

(49:40):
ceiling when the brand is universal, Google, Apple, Amazon Real
Madrid Lakers. I can deal with imperfection. I don't like
the term low ceiling. That's what worries me with Dak.
You Pam thirty five. You're not going to be able

(50:01):
to resign some guys defensively. And I think Dak's good,
He's not special. I don't love that. It's why I
would franchise him. I'd like to see him play again
without Zeke for a couple of weeks, maybe with a
beat up offensive line, prove he can carry it like
Wentz has to meet so far. But a deal's going
to get done. It's not about deserving or earning. It's

(50:24):
about leverage. And Dak has enough and Dallas has enough
that a deal will get done, all right. Coming up next,
Will Blackman. He'd DM me last night and asked me
about my favorite Wines. No other football player outside of
Drew Bledsoe ever does that. I got two football guys
that DM me about Wines, Drew Bledsoe and Will Blackman,
the former Giant Funny Guy. Coming up next, be sure

(50:48):
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(51:09):
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ten thousand dollars. I think the LA franchise is kind
of a mess. I want to just say that right now.
I don't think they're gonna win any games already. Yeah,

(51:31):
you can tell there's a couple of teams. I like
LA teams. I don't think it's gonna be good football, though.
I like it. DC's pretty good. Yeah. LA fired their
defensive coordinator Pepper John Johnson too much Pepper maybe for
the er. I don't know. It's it's LA the light
spice right. But further record in the XFL, like guys

(51:53):
can play, is really good football. Yeah. Will Blackman is
joining me ten NFL seasons a super bowl Champ with
the giants. Uh, and now he's in the wine business.
I screwed up last night. You slid into my DMS
and asked me about ask you a question. You asked
me a question, which was I said, what kind of
wine do you like? And I thought I put Pinot
noir and I put pink noir. So I said Rose,

(52:15):
and I said like no, Oregan Pinos like like duh.
And then I'm like, I just read five minutes ago,
and I'm like, oh, I did put pink noir. My
problem is I'd had a couple of glasses of Pinot noir,
so I couldn't see straight. I was at the shop.
I was going to shop for you, and then you
you took too long. You were a what shop? You're
at the wine shop? Yeah? Do you drink rose? No? No,
but I've had rose. Why not though? Because like Pinos? Okay,

(52:40):
I'm a guy that goes back to the same thing
over and over. I'm not like a I find what
I like in life at a restaurant and I order
one or two things at the same I go to
the same restaurants and I order the same two things.
I'm not going to take big chances in my life. Now,
why not? You don't bungee jump at seventy Why not?
My grandpa went skiing at seventy three. All skiing's done
a risk for me. I'm an excellent skier, but I'm
not going to jump out of a a eighty. If

(53:01):
I die at eighty four, it'll say cowhard dies of
old age. It won't say jumped off a cliff just
to have a good time. Coward dies. So I'm not
moving on to wines that I haven't tasted and haven't
grown an affinity. That's very extreme, though, Jumber go to
Planet trying Rose. That is a very extreme bro. Will
Blackman is joining me. So let me ask you this.

(53:23):
When you take over a new business, I've done this
a few times. I start a new show, I generally
want to start from scratch. I went out and found
John Goulay because I'd had John Goulay before, so I said,
I gotta get somebody that's familiar with me. I buy
the Carolina Panthers. I got a new coach. I've changed
the front office. I think I would move off cam.

(53:44):
I think I would move off him. And by the way,
I'm already picking seven I can get to the number
two spot. I've moved off of a really good coach,
so that's not far fetched. So what would you do
if you ran the franchise in Carolina with Cam? Well?
Based off what Temper said, he said, I handle the
business side, now I need to go down and handle
the football side. And he is truly going through every

(54:06):
single little piece of what's going on there. Yes, and
his last interview, he said, Okay, is Cam healthy? Because
if he's not healthy, we can't do anything yet. So
I'm sure he's truly waiting to see if he's healthy
because he can't. He can't be a guy that owns
a dealership and he's like, man, I got this twenty
eleven Bentley that is ready to go. We've got a
couple of flat tires, so you have to wait until

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we repair it, you know. So I think that's truly
what it is. I think he can get a second
for Kim. You get a second rounder. Yeah, so I
can draft my future quarterback. I've got a transitional piece
Kyle Allen. That's not my future, but I can compete
with him. But an he's someone you can hold on
too because he gets it. He's a backup quarterback. You
can win with backups for a while. They did well. Absolutely.

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Now let's go to Matt Stafford. Now, at least Cam's
gotten to a super Bowl. I like Matt. He's a
good kid, he's got talent. Eleven years no division title.
Now he's a little broken down. He's still young enough.
I could send him out to the trade market for
Indie or the Chargers, and I think both potentially would bite.

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I would move off him, take the cap hit for
a year. We're not winning the super Bowl anyway, because
I'm gonna draft Tuah with a number three pick. I'm
not worried about super Bowl for a year. What I
need to do is add juice, energy and start over.
Is that crazy? Or would you keep Stafford? If Stafford
went to Indy, They're anstantly going to the playoffs because
he's not gonna get hit. So he has value on

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the market, has tons of because just based on his
skill set alone. I think the most underrated things people
realize with Stafford is his arm strength. Yes, no question.
I still have a ligament that is partially torn because
I try to pick off one of his passes and
it just went right through my hands like, he has
a strong and he's able to lead his team back.
But will I've always said this when the Colts moved

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off Peyton. When you get a divorce, yeah, you have
to realize as a man, I'll speak as a man
when you get a divorce, my ex wife is going
to find happiness elsewhere. I've got to come to terms
with that and not worry about it. Denver Uh, Indianapolis
had to realize Peyton's gonna leave us, and he's going
to win for a while, but we're gonna move on
to luck. Green Bay moves off, far Brett's gonna be

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able to beat us for the next couple of years
as we go to Rogers. When you move off somebody,
the only way to move off a player with value
is he's going to win somewhere else you're gonna come to.
But you also better have a plan. And two was
my plan because two was not going one. So I
love too as a plan. I'm just saying if I

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could take two and say, listen, i'm gonna move Stafford,
I'm gonna trade him. But there's so many parts with
Detroit where it's like they're not far off. Oh you
really think that I think, yeah, in the NFC, And
then I don't think they're far off because one when's
the last time they had to I mean a thousand
yard of Russia Regie Bush was it like there, gonna
have one? Now you gotta find you gotta get something

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like that. You got to get something there that's gonna
once again. He has enough talent. Where's plenty of talent
where he needs something complimenting around him. You know, when
Marvin Jones came back, they will lighten it up. Until
Marvin Jones got injured. You know, they still have Kenny Gallady,
a great receiver. They got to get just more pieces
than offensive around him, find a way to protect him.
They're not when you you they have a franchise quarterback.
Like you said, he's still young and he's still able

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to do all these things. He can throw for four
thousand yards in his sleep. I guess my take on
cam and Stafford is they have market value. They will
win elsewhere. I don't deny it with the right fit,
but I need to start over. I need new juice.
Right I'm eleven years in with Matt Stafford and I
don't have a division title, and I don't have a

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playoff win. Yeah, Detroit. Detroit is an interesting it's a
confusing organization because you don't know, at least with Tepper
that he speak. He's telling you what we're doing. Oh,
I know, I listen. Tepper's gonna win games. I think
he's gonna offend some people, but he's gonna win games
because he's honest. He's brutal, he's he's cut wrote bottom line,
super bright. He's running his football team like he ran

(58:03):
his hedge fund. He's gonna make give me another quarterback, Dak.
What do you do? You pay him? All right? How much?
Thirty five? That's fair? Thirty six? Yeah, I mean I
wouldn't pay him that much. Why can't I franchise tag
him for one year? Because he I think I believe
he deserves the contract. Deserves Yeah, deserves gets a lot

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of jams fired. Is he special? He's a franchise quarterback?
All right? So he's is he? Is he better than
Andy Dalton? He's better than he? Is he better than
Matt Ryan? He's not better than Matt Ryan. Is he
better than Kirk Cousins? That's debatable? Okay, so thirty five
million for Kirk Cousins, and you'd be comfortable with that

(58:46):
if I had a like a turnkey situation like Minnesota
and like Dallas does. Yeah, Dak is good. Kirk Cousins
is good for that, all right, just come just come
in here and don't mess it up. Well, that's not
that's not very willful in aspirations. It's not wolf in aspirations.
But that's why I look at don't mess it up.
For example, you don't win in Super Bowls on don't

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mess it up wolf. For example, Minnesota thought they were
one quarterback away, so they go get Kurt as in
coming here and get us where we need to be
because we have everything in peace in place. Dallas they
felt like they have things in place and they need
they needed someone to come here and as a head
coach to get us to where we need to go
because we have a lot of the pieces here. So

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you think McCarthy and Dak is capable of getting to
a conference champions I believe so. All right, then then
by the way, you should pay him if you believe that. Yeah,
because if you if you think about forget the Super Bowl,
if you believe your quarterback, this is every quarterback in
the league. Do you believe your quarterback can get to
the conference championship? I didn't say win it. Yeah, if

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your quarterback can get believe Dad, Okay, that should be
the line. Yeah, because once you get to the conference championship,
you're facing Brady's and Rogers, You're facing Russell Wilson Mahomes.
That that really is the baseline to all this. It
is if you believe your quarterback, with the current construct

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of your coaching staff, can get to a conference championship
title is not enough? Now, It's no, that's not enough.
Deshaun Watson. Now he's gonna win the South pretty much
ever since Angel Luck left. He's gonna win this auth
a while. So Dak and McCarthy to you can get
then pay him. Yeah that's fair. What would you, um,
what do you make it? I can't believe this is
a story. So years ago when Will Blackman's joining us,

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So years ago, when Tim Tebow got hot and I
was at the other place and I I think I
was the only on air person of note in America
during a seven game winning stream. He said, I just said,
this is not He's winning. But I'm not building around
he flayer. He is a good football player. It's not sustainable.

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There's a difference between cann he wins Sunday and are
you gonna are you gonna build around him? So all
of a sudden, I never even thought of Taysom Hill
as a starting quarterback. I mean, he's a good kid.
I think he's a more athletic tim Tebow. He ran
a four or four or five Tebo run a four
to seven. He's a more athletic Tebow with a better
throwing motion. I think he can win on Sunday. Taysom
Hill can win on Sunday. But in all the years

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he's been in New Orleans, he's attempted fifteen passes. Pretty
much sums up what they think. If there's blocking punts.
He is a great athlete. I never thought of him
really as a franchise quarterback. I think of him as
a more athletic Tebow. And I always said about Tebow,
love to have him on my roster. I'm just not
building around him. So there's this belief that if Breeze retired,

(01:01:36):
I would go to Teddy Bridgewater. I wouldn't even think
twice about it. Right, there's a lot of people out
there saying, you know, the special team's coach said he
throws a better ball than Lamar Jackson. Do you, as
a football player, see Taysom Hill as a franchise quarterback. No,
neither do I. I've never seen anything that will let
me believe that. That's exactly what I think. He's a
guy who's going to play ten years because he has value,
and I would pay him, by the way. I would

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love to have him on my roster. I give him
some kind of like a mass Later type of deal
by even more because I think he can score touchdowns.
Matt can block a punt, right. You know, there are
guys in this league. I think the mistake we make
will as we confuse. He could win a game Sunday
with I'm building around him. The infrastructure for Taysom Hill
would have. You'd have to have this quirky offense. It

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just wouldn't work. So he's not as hyper athletic as Lamar,
and he can't throw nearly as well as the top
twelve quarterbacks in the league. I don't I don't get
the story here. Yeah, because you know he wasn't healthy
in college. I think he got a medical red shirt
in order to, you know, keep playing and then I don't.
I haven't seen any full preseason games of him. By
the way, he's gonna have to go somewhere and win

(01:02:42):
a job. I could be wrong here. Let me look
this up real quick. Hold on one second. What's up.
He's gonna turn thirty. He's gonna turn a thirty. Ok
So ask yourself and the history of comedy. One stand
up comedian was a late bloomer. One Rodney Dangerfield. Everybody
else by sixteen eighteen twenty two bed No, he was
good and young? Was he? Okay? Danger Field's the only generally,

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if you look at most in tech, nobody's a late
bloomer in tech. The people that are great at twelve eighteen,
Bill Gates sixteen, you can't be thirty. And nobody has
said let's make him a franchise quarterback. It's not a
position you can be. Quarterbacks don't aren't late bloomers. I

(01:03:25):
just don't see it. Finally, Tom Brady, your Tom today,
What do you do? I am staying with New England
and we look at Tom Brady and you're like, okay,
what's the incentative? Right, He's done everything. If I'm if
I look at if there's one thing that would motivate
Tom is because there are only two organizations that have

(01:03:47):
six Super Bowls, right, Patriots and Steelers. Maybe he wants seven.
You stay and get seven, otherwise you go home. That's
what here's my Brady pie seventy percent New twenty five
percent in Nashville because he would have fun and he
has struggled having fun. Retirement surprise team one percent retirement, Yeah,

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I mean one percent. He just says, I'm done with this, guys.
I don't trust New England. I've taken a beating. He's
in Costa Rica with his wife and kids, and he's like,
you know what, I don't miss it. I'm out. You think,
what do you think retirement's at? I think it's higher
than that, higher as in twenty five do you think? Yeah?
I think it's seventy five twenty five, seventy five New
England twenty five retirement. I can see him going to
Costa Rica and just saying, you know what, where I

(01:04:31):
don't We don't show any indication we're going to draft
a tight end or wide receivers, and I'm out. I
can see it, but I just have it a smaller percentage. Yeah,
if from him I'm waiting to see what happens during preseason.
Do I get weapons? He just needs offensive weapons. Well,
you all you have to wait for is the draft.
You don't have to wait for preseason. But by that time,
it's listen to New England's got to thread the needle
here because bottom line, in order if they want him,

(01:04:54):
they have to pay him by March eighteenth or too
much bigger cap hit. So they have to thread the
needle on this. And don't think it's gonna happen. Look,
it's it's funny here. Tom can really screw over the Patriots.
Tom can base Well I'm not saying he would, but
Tom's got a lot of leverage here. They don't have
anybody in house who can win a lot of games.
Is very true. You will Blackman? Good seeing you? Yeah,

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always a pleasure. Yeah, yeah, like when you're in your life. Yeah,
among other things. David Bruce Peano Noir fantastic. Who what
is that? David Bruce Pinot Noirs Santa Cruise Mountains. Oh yo.
His wine was in the nineteen seventy six judgment of Paris,
finished top ten out of twenty. It's a sleeper, It's

(01:05:39):
sleeper draft leg dude, A joy with the news. Now
this is the hard line news picture. Colin like sitting
on the porch sipping a rose. It's not really my thing. Yeah,
no cold beer, Goose Rocks, maybe a Pinot Noir. I

(01:06:00):
love rose. Probably iced tea at some point I see
Arnold Palmer. Not really just yeah, unsweetened iced tea. So
Jamis Winston has had vision issues for years and has
been seen squinting over to the sidelines during games. Bruce
Arians even joked at the end of last season that
Jamis couldn't read the scoreboard when he's on the field. Wow.

(01:06:20):
But now he has gotten lasic eye surgery to repair
his near sightedness. Yeah, so that means he can It's
always weird to me. It's called near sightedness. But it
means he can now see further away. He can see
better further away. Yeah. So I can see a long
way away. I can read a billboard sign in a
freeway a mile out, but I can't read he opposite.
Like I wear glasses sometimes I just don't feel like

(01:06:42):
dealing with them. But I can see fine right here,
but you are are blurry. I can on the freeway,
I can see stuff I'm not joking. I can see
stuff almost a mile out. No, I can't, but you
give me a prescription bottle. But you kind of need
good vision if you're going to be a quarterback. And
obviously there's a bunch of jokes that you can have
considering the amount of the interceptions that he throws, so

(01:07:03):
this was probably a good idea. Um, I mean they
can't get him like some respects or you know some
I'm kind of over Jamis. I will say this though.
He is still an entertaining watch. He is, and look,
he threw thirty three touchdowns this year, thirty interceptions. He's
just he's just a lot of activity. Yes, home runner,

(01:07:24):
strike out, but never mistake activity for achievement. It's a
great John Wooden. Yeah, I don't. I'm I've never been
in on Dak or Mariota for that matter. I didn't
see it Jamis or Mariota yea or day Jamis or
Mariota very in on Dak. I was kind of into,
sort of liked him. Both didn't love either. I just didn't.
I didn't feel like they had the ability to be

(01:07:46):
consistent and with me, with Mariota, I didn't feel like
he had the hit factor. Yeah, So with Jamis, I
feel like this year was a good test year. Had
Bruce arians who was a very great coat, smart. He
felt like he could come in and establish a culture
and do what heat whatever you could do. With Jamis,
I just don't see. I don't see how you're going
to get anything different from Jamis at this point in
his career. He is a free agent. He's going to

(01:08:07):
end up somewhere, if not back with the Bucks because
I don't know what their plan is moving forward without Jamis.
But at least he just took a step to try
and improve at least his vision. So that's good. So
the Bengals are in line too draft a quarterback with
the first overall pick. We're all assuming they're going to
take Joe Burrow, so that leaves Andy Dalton's future up
in the air. The team is said that they will
be in constant communication with Dalton this offseason, and one

(01:08:30):
option could be a trade. Ian Rappaport is reporting the
Bengals are willing to work with Dalton to facilitate a
trade when the time is right. So they are going
to do right by Andy Dalton. Good kid, that's the
way to do it and it's time to move on.
That's a perfect way to do it. Yeah, he's set
to make seventeen point five million in twenty twenty, so
that's not terrible. He obviously got benched after Week eight
for Ryan Finley and missed three games to return in

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a week thirteen. Again, Andy Dalton is just I think
it's part Andy Dalton, part the fact that it's just
Bengals as well, which is kind of all of our
fear with Joe Burrow going there. You can get a
fourth rounder for him, Go get a fourth rounder for him.
He's maybe a year starter. You know you're Jacksonville. I
not Jacksonville. Jacksonville's suck. They're stuck with the foals and

(01:09:14):
they have Gardner. Minshew says. I'm saying, I don't know where.
Where does he end up is the question. If Tom
Brady bolts, they're gonna give him, and they give If
Stafford's not on the market, Andy Dalton's getting a call.
I guarantee he gets a call by New England if
Brady bales, which he won't, but if he did, that's
who you call. I will be checking on all of
my Patriots friends. If that happens. Finally, you were just

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talking about this with will Taysom hill who wants to
be a franchise quarterback, and his former special teams coordinator
Mike west Off seems to think that he could be
one with the Saints. On the Zach Gelb Show on
CBS Sports Radio. He even went so far as to
compare hill skills to Lamar Jackson. Took a look at Baltimore.
This just shank kind of guy. That's those shame things.

(01:09:57):
How think he shows better? And I take your sheet
an offer that's similar to Baltimore that could do a
lot of different things. Sean Payton is an extremely qualified
coach and he's very very creative coach. Okay, I think
if he's going to be a franchise quarterback anywhere, it
will be with the Saints. Yes, However, we went through

(01:10:17):
this all last year. It's enough already, all right. Lamar
Jackson can throw the football. He's a unanimous MVP. And
as you relaxed with the comparing other people to Lamar Jackson,
Taysom hillstone fifteen passes in his career and he's thirty,
and he as an injury track record that would scare you.
So like beyond that, it's a he's a thirty year

(01:10:38):
old guy, couldn't stay healthy at BYU and he's older
and he's really not Listen, there's guys I want on
my football team. I want him on my football athlete.
He's been wonderful for the Saints this year. He maybe,
but Rue Brees went down for five games and they
didn't give it to him. They gave it to Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah,
you can say you love somebody, what do you do?
They gave it to Teddy B. I don't even want
to read Lamar stats. It's embarrassing. There's stuck comparing, like

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Lamar Jackson can throw the ball, just relax on the
whole you know, he doesn't throw the ball that well.
We know what Lamar Jackson is at this point, and
this is why this narrative about doubting Lamar Jackson continues.
It's silliness. He threw the ball fifteen times in his career. Listen,
we all like Taysom Hill, and I do think he
would end up being in a great position with the Saints.
But other than with the Saints, I don't know if
he ends up being a franchise quarterback. Somewhere. There's too

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much talent coming into the league. Too too much talent
that that are athletic coming into their twenty three not thirty. Yeah,
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Lakers are not beating the Clippers in a series. It's

(01:12:07):
not happening. Agree or disagree. I don't think the Lakers.
As much as I love Lebron, A D. Dwight, that
whole squad, I don't think the Lakers can beat the
Clippers if the Clippers are healthy in the seven game series.
And the reason why I say that is because you
got to think about how the game is today. Right,
you have Lebron six eight sixty nine can do everything

(01:12:30):
then you have Dwight Howard, who's amazing. You have Anthony
Davis and JaVale mcgeese. You have biggs, but the game
is not so much about the biggs. It's about versatility.
So when you have Paul George and Kawhi Leonard and
all these different guys are two of the most in
the league, and Morris who's a dog and can play.

(01:12:51):
When you have the Philadelphia guy, I love it. When
you have those type of guys on one team, like
the Golden Say Warriors, you can have success because you
can switch every you can shoot, you can stretch fours
and fives. It's harder for the defenses of the White
Howards and the Javille McGee's and you know, mess so
much Anthony Davis to be able to go out there
on guard. So I mean, that's what I think when

(01:13:12):
it comes to a seven game series, Clippers have the versatility.
It's a really good point because the NBA really is
now a versatility league. It used to be when I
was a kid growing up, it was a size league.
Then it was a Michael Jordan league. He kind of
broke all the barriers and out it really is a
versatility league. Can you get Can you get fours that
can guard threes, could guard twos. Lebron could guard everybody
outside of a fast point guard. Now he can even

(01:13:33):
guard a big Kawhi Leonard now could guard Yannis he
did last year in the playoffs. So I watched Denver
Lakers last night, and Denver's really young and really talented.
But when I watched the game, I'm like, it was
because it was a playoff feeling game in the NBA.
Next we got twenty seven games, twenty eight games left
regular season. You were in the league for over a decade.

(01:13:53):
Teams start buttoning it up. The games feel like play
You'll pick a game a week and it'll be a
playoff game. That was a playoff game last night, And
I look at Denver and I'm like, they can't win
that game. They can't win that game, and they should.
I just don't buy Denver big picture, do you? No?
I don't um. And it's not it's not a knock
on Denver. Uh. There's two things that's uh that's blocking Denver.

(01:14:17):
There's one is the mental right when when Portland came
in and beat them and Portland's shot bad and still
beat them last year. That's one um mentally, and two
is there's they have a lot of robins. No Batman
h as great as Joker is is is really good
as Murray is. If one of them are struggling last

(01:14:38):
night in the second quarter, it's really hard because to me,
Murray is not a true point guard. He's an amazing
score right, he's you know, bringing the ball up, okay, cool,
But to me, it's if he's not scoring, can he
get everybody in the game. And I don't see that.
That's not his that's not his nature, that's not his name,
his nature. And then Joker is more of a passive,

(01:14:59):
dominant player where it's it's it's not he won't give
you forty five twenty in whatever, he will give you
eleven assists. He will give you that, but it's it's
it's more of a European thing, right, It's like um
sabonus when he was with Portland back in the day, right,
where he's passing the ball and it looks all great
and everything like that, But when I need you to
dominate Shaquille O'Neill, right, it's not gonna happen that I
don't I don't see that yeah, you know, Denver's one

(01:15:21):
of those teams that's gonna be really good for a
long time because they have two really good players and
a really good coach and it looks like their front
office knows what they're doing. But you do hit ceilings.
I think with Denver, I think this. I think you
need the Inco Dollars of the World. I think you
need the Raymond Greens of the World. I think you
need that showing Livy's things of the world where they're

(01:15:42):
point guards, but defensively they can switch everything. So you
keep the Murray's, you keep even Harris because I like
him defensively, you know, and Joker, and then you build
around that, right or you you keep Millsap, but you
build around that type because their IQ's so high, the
Eco dollars and the show living Stins in the Dreamond
Greens of the World. That Stephen Curry can exist in

(01:16:04):
a system right as great as he is because he
has so many other guys knowing how to play the game.
That's right. Small ball in Houston, I do not buy it.
I haven't bought Houston all year. I don't think they
can win a playoff series. I haven't a Houston. You
I don't buy him. I don't think they can win
a playoff series. I think they're an interesting mass what
I mean, Okay, psychologically my major psychology communications. Yeah, well

(01:16:27):
you major in psychology and communications. Yeah, okay. So so
for me, I'm thinking this, right, you are who you are. Right,
You're not gonna change. You know, my therapist said that
he goes. Change is hard for people who want to change. Yeah,
most people don't want to. Most people don't want to.
Westbrook is what he is. He's there, you go, and
I love what Russell Westbrook. But again it's we spoke

(01:16:47):
about this last year, did we not, when Paul George
was up in the top three and MVPs and it
was what December, I don't know, January when we spoke
about this. Yeah, and we said, well, give a time
and Westbrook's mentality will kick in and then he will
become that type of personality again. And he did. And
what it does is now because Paul George defers, right,

(01:17:10):
he kind of deferred, it breaks your rhythm. Basketball is
about rhythm, So it breaks your rhythm. So what James
having struggles of one for seventeen in the last well,
actually in one game. He's won for seventeen from three,
you know, and then Russell, you never know what you're
gonna get. You know you're gonna get hard work, but
you never know you're gonna get the consistency of efficiency, right,

(01:17:32):
You don't know you're gonna get that. So when now,
when it comes to my opinion, when it comes to
May June Westbrook such a competitor, will that personality get
in the way of how this small ball work It
has the last six years. Yeah, this is who he is. Yeah,
you know, you hire an employee and he has a
track record of being difficult. He can fool you for

(01:17:54):
a couple of years exactly, but by year three year,
like it's really difficult. People show you what they are.
You're there, I believe them, and and that's what it
is like. Listen, Russell's he's one of my favorite players.
I've known him since his you know, his freshman year
actually going to his freshman year of Sky. He is
what he is and he's plays super hard, but he's
what he is and he takes it personal. And you're

(01:18:16):
supposed to do that. You're supposed to do that. But
there's a time where you have to compartmentalize. Thank you, right,
you have to be self aware. I'm hurting. My self
aware is the best word. And he doesn't have that
that he doesn't it's not that he doesn't have it,
it's just that your ego tricks you to say I
can do now, it's the time for me to do it.
Where I mean, if it wasn't working all those other times.

(01:18:37):
But yet I'm being successful during the season. But this
is not the season. This is the second season. Yeah, right,
By the way, we know this. In the postseason, you
don't get to the free throw line. The refs don't
get the calls. Westbrook drives, not a great shooter, looks
for the foul calls, doesn't get it. James Sameway doesn't
get it, and therefore they get frustrated. That's why James

(01:18:58):
and Russell have struggled. You do not get the whistle
in the postseason. Well, James is more so. For me,
James is more so. His energy it dies in the playoffs, right,
so you can't keep searching for fouls and things like that,
and then when the second round comes around, you may
not have that energy you had during the season because
during the season things are more space stout. You're not

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playing the same team for the next two weeks, so
you know the scheme is not the same. So you
can get thirty five on this team and fishing, and
then you get forty on this team. But it's like
a lot of free throws, and it's a lot of
stop and it's a lot of bumping your body, and
this is different. Playoffs are different, right, so you know,
hopefully I don't I don't buy any there. I love Houston,

(01:19:44):
I love these are two of my favorite guys. But
you have the objectivity to not buy them. Well, yeah,
I don't think it's not so much as them, but
I just think it's the system where it's like it
used offensive. He uses so much energy. Right when I
was with Rick Adam and then Sacramento, I scored eighteen
points a game and literally like I didn't even have
to do anything. I've really I've really dribbled the ball.

(01:20:06):
But when I was with the Rockets, I was like
this star and Steve Francis and I was like dunking
and passing. It's like but after the game, I was like,
oh my god, I'm so tired and only had like
twenty five that's why I hired Joy I barely work here.
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been talking. Pro Football Focus is a site that I

(01:21:08):
kind of got turned onto. Chris Collinsworth was one of
the founders. I got turned on to it about four
years ago. And they do college stuff, they do pro stuff,
and you know, like offensive line play. I have to
rely on them. Other things. My eyes can tell me
certain things, but I think they do a very good job.
They like Baker Mayfield more than everybody else. I did not,
so I get the last laugh this morning. But who knows.
Baker may rebound and have a huge year. But they'll

(01:21:30):
lay it out there. They'll tell you what they think.
And joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network is
Sam Monson NFL analyst PF NFL show as well. So
let's go to the college thing. I think to be
a number one pick, Sam, I like special. I look
at Tua freshman called on in the National Championship game.
This kid's made a steal, he's had injuries, but Carson

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Wentz was hurt. I'm okay with it. I look at
it and I see Drew Brees accuracy. I think the
kids are remarkable talent. Joe Burrow, I say good, not special,
but good. What's the tape say? What's PF say when
you grade at those two? I mean, I think the
tape says it's with you. On Ta, I think Ta

(01:22:15):
is a fantastic prospect, and really the only concern with
him was the devastating injury. So if he checks out medically,
I think he's absolutely a guy that deserves to go
at the top of this draft. Where we differ a
little bit is that the tape also says that Joe
Burrow is special. He has the highest single season grade
we've ever given a college prospect since we've been grading,
that goes back to twenty fourteen. The only concern we

(01:22:38):
really have with Burrow is we've only really seen it
for one year. And of course you can sort of
look at the fact that he had some help he
did it. You know, the good receiving cores offensive coordinator
was a big thing in his favor. But his accuracy
was special as well. If you look at his adjust
to completion percentage to take out throwaways, take out drops
by receivers, try and to dial it down a little

(01:23:01):
bit more to just the quarterback. His adjust to completion
percentage last year was over eighty percent. That's a Drew
Brees level number, and it's a few percentage points higher
than two US. So I think that Joe Burrow has
the chance to be a special prospect and you know,
maybe the best prospect we've ever seen. But I think
two is right up there with him. I think those

(01:23:21):
two guys should go one and two in this draft.
By the way, is there any other quickly, is there
any other college prospect like justin Herbert? Do you like
the grade doubt pretty well? Yeah, I mean there's a
few guys that that grade out pretty well, but none
of them are in that same category. I think it's
a clear one and two in this draft, and then
people like Herbert are further down the list, there's much

(01:23:41):
more question marks about them. These are the two clear
prospects that A I think everybody likes, and be the
grading likes as well. Now I want to shift to
NFL guys. So there is a question in New England.
I picked up on it about four years ago where
I started noticing that in December Tom Brady's efficiency was
declining as he aged. We see this with Drew Brees.

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He can be great September October, but Drew declined a
couple of years ago later in the season. When you
looked at New England's issues, was it a Brady issue
or a lack of weapons issue? What did pfc? Yeah,
I think almost all of the problems are the lack
of weapons. I think you're right, Brady is definitely declining

(01:24:24):
at this point. The guy's forty two years old. You know,
of course he's declining. I was kind of a few
years ago saying he was declining, and then he reversed it.
Had a few of the best seasons of his career.
But I think right now it's not crazy to suggest
that he doesn't have quite what he used to. But
when you look at his numbers and you start looking
at the problems in New England this past season, it
really is just that nobody was able to get open.

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You had Julian Edelman, who was still doing a good job,
but once teams figured out they could just bracket cover Edelman,
nobody else was able to get open on a consistent basis.
You look at the PFF grades, the only guys with
a decent receiving grade r Antonio Brown, who lasted one game,
were James White, who's running back, and the Landon Roberts

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had the next best grade, and he's a linebacker that
moonlighted as a fullback and had one catch. Everybody else
it was Julian Edelman in the seventies and nobody else's
had a good grade. So you know, Brady couldn't get
it done on his own. His numbers under pressure were
bad because nobody was getting open. And you know, really,
that's every single bad number for Brady this season just

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traces back to the fact that nobody was able to
get open on a consistent basis and give him somewhere
to go with the football. There are a few years ago,
you know, people around this set, as I witness, I
had said about Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't see any college
guys as good as Garoppolo. I'd go get him the
Niners did. Now, I do think Tua and Burrow are

(01:25:49):
more special than Teddy Bridgewater, But I do think Teddy
is a starter for a Carolina or an Indianapolis. What
is the tape say? What? Now? Again, was Sean Payton
with Michael Thomas, with Alvin Kamara. He can fit right
in if you put Teddy around a good offensive line
and good weapons. Perhaps not special. What does the tape

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say about him as a potential franchise player? Yeah, it's interesting.
His grading at PFF was always I think a little
bit better than the general perception, but after he had
that devastating knee injury, he never quite got back to
that point until we saw him start a few games
this season. And even at the start of that run,

(01:26:33):
his grading wasn't that good. I know they were winning
all those games, but it took him. It took him
a few games to get back to that level. But
then we started to see him kind of get back
into his groove. He started to push the ball down
the field a little bit more. His grade went back
to where it was, you know, pre injury with the Vikings,
And I agree with you, I think Teddy Bridgewater can
legitimately start for a team again. I think he put

(01:26:54):
himself back in that conversation and earned himself some money.
With that run of games. He does look like a
viable starter, albeit one that's probably never going to be
you know, a top five, top ten quarterback. He believe
that top half of guys, kind of in that Jimmy
Garoppolo level of quarterbacks in the NFL. You know, it's

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some of the grading for our audience. You know, Dak
has never played without a great running back, Zeke. He
came into the league was Zeke. He's never played without
this offensive line, which has largely been understood as the
best or second best old line in the last decade.
So when you look at Dak, we know there are
certain limitations. How do you grade him though, How do

(01:27:36):
you take into consideration the greatness of the people around him?
What does he do that concerns you at PFF? What
does he do that you like? Yeah, you're right. It's
very hard to isolate the effects of every other player
on a specific individual, and sometimes you have to look
at it and say, Okay, he has this grade, but

(01:27:56):
let's start bearing in mind what is around him in
terms of offense line and receivers, and that kind of
goes back to the Brady thing we talked about. You know,
his grade is influenced by the fact that these receivers
just weren't getting open, as are the grades of the
offensive lineman because he has to hold the ball longer.
So you're right, Dak has definitely benefited from the fact
that that offensive line has been great and they have

(01:28:17):
added receiving weapons and a run game to him. So
I think the Cowboys have to bear all that in
mind and understand that he isn't in this level of
a top five NFL quarterback, even if sometimes his statistics
suggest that he can get there. He is helped by
everybody else, and they also know that anybody else they
bring into that situation will also be helped by all

(01:28:39):
those additional talented players on this offense as well. So
you know, Dak does grade extremely well. He has been
pretty good at you know, most facets of the game.
But they have to understand that this is being aided
and at least start looking at the possibility of somebody
else being able to do a similar job, if not
quite as well. By the way, how do you agree

(01:29:00):
to again like Taysom Hill? But what is he to you? Guys? Yeah, well,
so far he's basically been a gimmick in that offense. Right.
The intriguing thing is that Sean Payton has been the
best hype man I've ever seen for Taysom Hill. That
guy needs to be working for the UFC selling things,
because the way he has talked up Taysom Hill since

(01:29:21):
he's been there has been incredible. He's been comparing him
to Steve Young midway through the season with no seemingly
no reason to do it. You know, I wrote an
article about what a Taysom Hill offense could look like,
and I'm kind of fascinated by it because of what
we saw in Baltimore this year with Lamar Jackson. I
think teams make me more ready now to start crafting

(01:29:41):
these custom, bespoke offenses around talented athletes and talented playmakers.
And I think a Taysom Hill offense, you know, could
potentially work. I just don't know why you would go
to such hassle to do that without having seen you
know him run a conventional offense. It would be a
massive projection. And I think if anyone's gonna do it,
Sean Payton could do a good job. I'm just not

(01:30:03):
sure why you would go to that trouble. Yeah, Sam
Munts and pro football folk. It's good stuff. Sam on
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(01:30:26):
This is the herd Line News. So despite only playing
in nine games so far, Zion Williamson is already having
a huge impact. Let's hear it for Zion Zion at
the Times. Yeah, Where's God leave echo? Crickheads can't hear
him well. Even he is surprised by how quickly he's
been able to make a statement. Oh I love this. No,

(01:30:46):
I wasn't. I expect to make an impact, but I
don't expect to do nothing like this. It's kind of
look to come in. It's kind of fit end. Just
not trying to mess up. But my teammates and coaches
always pushing me and say, no, why can't we Just
like these seven of his nine games, he's got twenty
or more points. He's nineteen. Who's being critical for everybody

(01:31:09):
on the duke. Everybody's like how many media people talk
show holes? Right, he's too heavy, he can't shoot a jumper.
Gottlieb's screaming at me. I'm like, folks, he is a
unique body in a thin cardio league. Nobody's taken a charge.
He's gonna overlook at him. These are grown men that
have no way to match up with him down low.

(01:31:30):
He's just simply too big. He's Sean Kemp. He had
a career high thirty one points in the wine of
the Show Blazers on Tuesday. Look, I don't I don't
understand the critiques of him. Obviously, everyone is talking about
his weight and as if we're all doctors or something.
But but New Orleans has said that they're they're working
with him on his body. All expected. He is a rookie.

(01:31:52):
He's he's not into his man body yet, Like he's
still incredibly young. Look at how beautiful his touch is
around the basket. He's got a listen to watch. He's
full of energy, He's powerful, and he's fun. He plays
the game with just like a happiness and ferociousness. Weirdly,

(01:32:12):
at the same time, you are great at anything at ninteen,
the chances are you're gonna get better. I saw Andre
Agassi play tennis at seventeen years old. It's like, oh,
he's not perfect, he's a little short. But if you're
that good at seventeen at tennis, you're like, good God,
what are you gonna be at twenty sec He's gonna
get better. He's of course gonna get better. The concerns

(01:32:32):
about his body were validated for anyone who has who
had a critique of him coming into the league, obviously
because he had that injury. He looks in shape. No,
when I watched him the other night, now he looks
in shape. Oh yeah, he was he had a lower
body injury. Of course, you're not going to be in
perfect shape. You can't. You can't run and work out
the way that everyone else is in the mid season.
I love being right. Oh you know was at an

(01:32:54):
extreme take by us. That's almost there's just everybody's out going.
I can't shoots, Like, look at his body. The guy
upstairs does not deliver that body off a conveyor belt.
That is a unique he's I don't think we've seen
I don't really even think there's a fair comparison of
him to anything we've ever seen. You know, when I
watch him play, now, forget everybody else, there's a lot

(01:33:16):
of Sean Kemp and as a former Sonic fan, Sean
was just the power, the butt, the size. You're like
Zion can roll out of bed. Nobody's none of these
European centers want to take the charge. He's gonna give
you twenty because he's just physically so well. He's physically
imposing in a league that is mostly finesse. But he
has an incredible touch. All beautiful touch lets him fit

(01:33:40):
into today's style of player. I should be a scout.
Speaking of scouting, Bucky Brooks released his top draft prospects
by position and for quarterbacks. He listed to ahead of
Joe Burrow at number one, which I know you love. Everybody.
Where is Joe Burrow? Isn't he supposed to come on
the show? Where is Joe Burrow? Who's booking Joe Burrow?

(01:34:00):
Burrow by the one on the show? I think you
should go number one overall? Con doesn't. Patrick Mallomes came
on the show. Look what happened? Super Bowl MVP, super
Bowl winner boom So Bucky has Burrow second, followed by
Justin Herbert, Jordan Loved from Utah State, and Jacob Eason
from Washington. I think they will all go within the
top twenty. You know Easton, by the way, he's got

(01:34:20):
the best arm in nineteen ninety four, he would go
number one. There's no he's six five, he has a
I watched every snap of him this year in a
big game. He's got a rocket arm. But the world's changed.
He's not real mobile. He makes some bad decisions. He's
not gonna make plays with his feet. But a ten
years ago Easton, you could, by the way, ten years ago,

(01:34:40):
reverse this. Everybody would say two is too small. Well,
of course, but yeah, ten years ago the first round,
so two and now is one. Easton is five and
that's how the game. By the way, we have a
nice job, guys. We got video of Easton. I watched
all the snaps. He didn't have any he didn't have
any speed at receiver, so we had two jam balls
in the tight windows. He has got an absolute He'll
be a top five arm in the league. Like Josh Allen,

(01:35:02):
the minity steps in. Do you think they all go
in the first round? Uh? I think Easton will be
thirty one, thirty two, top of the second round. I
think we're gone. They may. I just don't know who late.
By the way, who are the last four teams drafting? Well,
and I'm trying to think who the last four. San
Francis is gonna need a quarterback, Kansasay, he doesn't need
a quarterback. Titans need a quarterback. Plus, there's gonna be

(01:35:28):
some trades. I see, I've seen plus and I watched
Herbert and I'm a PAC twelve guys, so you know
everybody saw two in burl because they play in the
most popular conference. Easton is gonna get drafted, probably top second.
He has a Now you gotta remember with Easton he
was well coached and through some bad picks, but they
didn't have any speed a receiver, so he had the
jamballs in those. I want to see what their upside

(01:35:49):
is like, what is their base, because you know that
there's gonna be taken to the next level depending on
obviously where they go in the league. So, I mean,
we talked about guys all the time. Dak Russell, Wilson,
Easton Rogers reminds me of Flacco. Love it. That's not
a Parson. But well in twenty in twenty two thousand
and six, that was great. In twenty twenty, that drops

(01:36:12):
into the second round. Yeah. Yeah. So finally, Tom Brady's
future is still up in the airs. Free agency approaches
and his former teammate Christian Fourier thinks that Brady and
the Patriots are going to go their separate ways. Wow,
I believe the Patriots are done. I think the Patriots
are okay and ready to move on. They know Brady's
not running back. There's going to be this. It's not

(01:36:33):
our fault fans. They know Brady's not running back. What's
the plan? I Raidy doesn't come back because their plan
Jared Stidham. That's the plan, Andy Dalton, that's the plan. Yeah,
you know, I think they've got and get I could
stay with some certainty. Andy Dalton will get a phone call. Look,
it's it's the same position I am in with Dak.

(01:36:54):
Like you can say all you want about like we're
not sure if we want to pay Brady that money
or we don't want to pay that act that money?
What is the plan? Here's the thing. If Belichick told
Tom privately today, I'm going because the Cowboys are gonna
franchise Tagamari Cooper. If today Belichick said I'm gonna go

(01:37:15):
pay for a J Green, Tom would be there. Tom
Brady would resign this morning if he had a shirt
and there's no question of mine. If if he said today, um,
I'm gonna sign Greg Olsen tomorrow and I'm gonna go
get aj Green, Brady would sign. Brady's concern is there?
Like it is it a thing in New England where
we're just trying to like prove we don't have to

(01:37:37):
win with superstars? Is that what? Well they don't they
don't draft particularly well at wide receivers, but like free agents, Like,
what is what is the thing that everyone's trying to
prove there. I don't get it, Like, don't don't you
want brought it? They did. They rolled the dice on
A A B and it went backwards. So let's give
him credit. They did have the guy and the guy
went crazy. Okay, I mean I think some of us

(01:37:58):
could have seen that coming. Yeah, well, I mean but
they ruled the So what New England's telling Brady is
we went and got two guys for you. We went
and got your flash Gordon, we went got you be.
Don't tell us we don't get you guys. Okay, but
I mean, what what what? What? What is that? Like?
What do you mean? Greg Olsen is not Antonio Brown
and Josh Gordon, but they have no Ay. J. Green
is not that well? Ay J. Green's no, but he's

(01:38:19):
I think he's pretty good. A. J. Green is great.
He's a great pros up on time. There's not even
a comparison to those situations. Those were high risk situations
and obviously we were rooting for both of them, but like,
that's not the same situation. I don't understand what what
is it? What is the deal with not wanting to
bring in high profile talent and it's just trying to
prove that you can win super Bowls without it. I

(01:38:41):
don't think yeah. I mean they've done well without it.
So when he would do something, they mean, don't pay
anybody anything. Work out well this year, well this year,
first time in fifteen years. But Edelman then they pay
nothing to So so Belichick's going Tom, I I don't
spend more than five million a receiver, and I keep
winning super Bowls. But you don't. But you may lose
Tom Brady and be left without a back up situation.

(01:39:01):
And you know, like if we are hearing this, then
they're hearing at this issue. You listen, if the whole
thing is if a B didn't go turn into a circus,
Dom would already be resigned. If a B just would
have not been a mass, Tom would be back. It's
the thing that they could have predicted that. But that
was a high risk situation. It was AJ Green has

(01:39:22):
got some injuries. Other than injuries is not a high
risk situation. It's a low risk because he does have
two injuries recently, doesn't he I think a J has
had two injuries and two years, and he's older, and
he's got a lot of wear and tear on that body.
They've leaned on him for about eight years, so I
don't know. All right, are we done? I got sidetracked
their joy with the news and thanks for stopping by. Oh,

(01:39:45):
by the way, I love comedians. I love whenever I
go to Vegas magicians and comedians. I love new, fresh comedians.
There is a new comedian. He is funny. His name
is Jim Crane and he owns the Houston Astros. And

(01:40:06):
he says, yeah, all the cheating stuff, you know what,
I'm not I'm not even gonna I'm just gonna let
you hear this new comedian. He is funny. Our opinion
is you know that this didn't impact the game. We
had a good team, we won the World Series, and
we'll leave it at that. Did you say you feel
like this didn't impact the game? And what do you

(01:40:28):
mean by that? I didn't say it didn't impact the game.
He is gonna be at Giggles in Toledo, Ohio on
Tuesday and the Laugh Factory in Sheboygan on Thursday. Yeah,
none of those wires on the players, or the bang
of the drum and the garbage cans, even though I
have players acknowledging it happened. It had nothing to do

(01:40:51):
players hitting four hundred at home, one thirty on the road.
It had nothing to do. I didn't say it had
nothing to do. Jim Crane is at the the Hermosa
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It's directly funny. Coming up next Quarterback Tinder. Who am

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there there's a lot of different sites. There was eHarmony,
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as you know, you get pictures of people and you swipe.
If you like somebody, you swipe right, and if you
don't like somebody, you swipe left. So are we enjoy?

(01:41:54):
Are we ready to do our quarterback tenders. Yes, let's
play quarterback tender. We'll decide if these teams should commit
to these quarterbacks. Right, okay, let's start with Tom Brady.
You know, swipe lefter, swipe right on Tom Brady. There
is Tom Look at his tender profile. Yeah, well a
down year was twelve and four, and the backup currently

(01:42:17):
is um Jarrett Stidham. So I'm gonna I'm gonna like him.
I'm gonna swipe right. Okay, all right, so let's swipe right.
All right? Oh Ryan Tannehill, Oh yeah, looks active. Prior
to last year, he had one winning season. He's a
five hundred starter, and then the first two big playoff

(01:42:39):
games this year he had a combined one hundred sixty
passing yards. I'm gonna swipe left. Nope, I'm gonna pass
on this one. Tannehill. Okay, Derek Carr, look first of all,
look at that tender picture with a dog. Handsome guy
with a dog. All right, somebody explained to me how
people don't like a quarterback that had a passer rating

(01:43:00):
over one hundred and completed seventy percent of his throws.
I will say it again. The Raiders have all sorts
of issues, almost all of them not connected to Derek Carr.
I'm swiping right. I like him. He's twenty eight, I
got eight more years with him. He can't turn on
the dog either. Matthew Stafford. That's not the best picture. Yeah,

(01:43:20):
I'm gone with that. Looks puffy. Well, I mean he's
eating a donut. I think that's ten games under five
hundred last year missed. I think fourteen games. I'm swiping
left on that. Yeah. No, Like, plus, you can't see
his eyes, can't trust him? Oh good, Yeah, they're a

(01:43:40):
woman's perspective. On that. Taysom Hill, it looks very healthy, powerful, handsome.
I would like actually to dig deeper into his tender profile.
Oh wait, he had four different season ending injuries in college. Like,
how do you overlook that? That's like having full that's
like coming off four bad relationships. I got to swipe

(01:44:03):
left on this. No, Like, okay, Cam Newton looks fun.
He has been fun. What he hasn't been as a winner?
I never had back to back winning seasons. His career
completion percentage, I can't go here. It's under thirty six.
There's no you can't. I can't get past that. All
these years in the leagues. I mean, he's a fun guy.

(01:44:26):
He has glasses on, but you can't see his eyes
through the glasses. But do you trust him to lead you?
Do you trust him? Never had back to back winning
seasons despite having all that talent. I'm swiping left. No like. Okay,
not a lot of likes here, Jameis Winston. He has
a dog and lacic surgery. I always feel this happens
a lot. You ever get to this point in life,

(01:44:48):
like I've seen enough. Yes, wander five hundred productive, often
for the secondary of the other team. Um, there's so
many things there. The arms there, the size is there,
and he's mobile. There's a million things to like and
there's I get people who say he gets one more year,

(01:45:08):
maybe you wait on the lasic eye surgery. But I'm
swiping left on this. No likes here, only got two,
all right, Jimmy Garoppolo. First of all, that picture, it's
hard to he could have a lot of flaws. By
the way, Goulet stuff you're gonna over look there? Yeah,
I mean you could have a red flag parked right
behind us. Where'd you get this music? Goule very seventies

(01:45:33):
it's very something. Yes. Yeah, So here's here's the best thing.
Do we all think Kyle Shanahan is a great coach? Yes,
Kyle Shanahan is four and twenty in San Francisco without
Jimmy Garoppolo, and he's had most of the pieces at
his disposal except Jimmy Garoppolo. He gets to a Super

(01:45:53):
Bowl with him. People can say what they want. Jimmy
Garoppolo wins almost all the games he starts England San Francisco,
and his tender profile is pretty strong. Swiping right, I'm
swiping right on Jimmy g all right. Finally, Dak Prescott
again looks like he'd be fun. He's got a paddle

(01:46:15):
board or something in his hands. I am. He did
have career high in yards this year, but a lot
of garbage stats. He got a lot of garbage stats.
He is over five hundred. You know what. I'm sensing
some problems with Tinder here. Oh something went wrong on Tinder.

(01:46:39):
The app just crossings so many people trying to get
to Dakah. So I don't have to make a decision
on Dak yet, like like the Cowboys, Like the Cowboys,
I'm gonna not make a decision, Tinder decision on Dak Prescott.
Yet good to have you in today. I'd tell you
I don't talk about of baseball, but whoever it runs

(01:47:00):
the PR department for the Houston Astros, you have had
a bad year. Greg Twoey is from Houston. He loves
the Astros. He watches regular season baseball games. They butchered
that Jim Crane press conference today, Yeah, I mean itsting.
It was probably the way you want to go. Was
embarrassingly bad. God, it was just awful for a for

(01:47:22):
a billionaire. Congratulations Houston Astros

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