Patriots, Tom Brady-Aaron Rodgers, celebrations, Lakers, & where Colin was right and wrong

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Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. It's great
to have Joy Taylor in on a Monday. How are you?
Good morning? Good morning. You know last night I was
going to see the great Aaron Rodgers and the system

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quarterback Tom Brady, and I want to talk about that
system in New England. It's fascinating. The most fascinating thing
about Tom Brady, the System quarterback, is that, um, you know,
systems get names. In basketball, the triangle offense, I mean
by the first championship, they gave it a name. In

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the NBA, the pick and roll offense we love getting
baseball moneyball. In football, the West Coast offense, the Wildcat offense,
the wishbone offense. In the fifties, sixties, seventies, even defenses
get nicknames. Joy the four six defense. We love giving

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nicknames to defense, his offenses, baseball, basketball in the NBA,
But why does a New England system have a nickname?
Eighteen years, been on TV more than any team except
the Cowboys. I mean, Joe Montana won with the West
Coast offense and the Old Way one with Mike Shanahan

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and offensive coaches zone blocking scheme. It's funny, Belichick said,
defensive coach. Defensive coaches don't have offensive systems? Do they
an offensive system? Systems in general get copied. But how
come nobody else in the league looks like New England.
You ever notice that, I mean systems. Everybody copied the

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West Coast offense, they still do. Everybody copied the four
six defense, they still do. People copy the pick and roll,
moneyball analytics. The Wildcat for two years was red hot.
But how come nobody nobody copies New England system. It's
funny when the coordinators leave town and they go to
new teams, the offense doesn't look like New England. It

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is so weird. People say a lot of things. Hold
them to what they say. Hey, Colin, I'll tell you
what the systems called. It's called Belichick. Oh get the
man in Milwaukee's best. He beat me on that one.
Oh wait, he didn't. You mean the Bill Belichick that

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had a losing record in Cleveland was fired before Tom Brady.
That system, the system that was five and eleven his
first year and a half in New England with the
great Drew Bledsoe. That system. I'll tell you what the
system is calling. It's thrown to the tight end. Actually
the last three years, New England's got a better record

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when Gronk's out he was last night they won convincingly. Oh,
it's just throwing to slot receivers, which one Welker Dion
Branch Edelman. Hogan got to a Super Bowl without Edelman
last year. In fact, New England and Tom Brady have
gotten to three gotten to Super Bowls with three different coordinators.

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They've made the playoffs three times with no offensive coordinator.
In fact, this is fascinating. You could call this the
headless system. They don't even need coaches for it. Let
me describe New England's system under Tom Brady. They're smarter
than you, Priestnap. They're more precise and accurate than you.

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They're always better in the fourth quarter than you. They're
more prepared than you, more coachable than you, and more
committed than you. If you want to call that a system,
you can call it whatever you'd like. But we know
in football, especially, we love to give nicknames. We don't

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even call him Terrell Owens. He's t o Jacksonville Overnight
became Saxonville, fastest show on turf, legion of boom. Everybody's
got a nickname because we give systems nicknames. It's easy,
the fans can embrace it, network promos, in marketing. But
yet nobody has ever named New England system because it

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doesn't exist. Tom Brady, my friends, is the system. Belichick
couldn't win without him in Cleveland and New England. Gronk
is irrelevant, not worth half a point either was Welker.
He left, they got better, and even Edelman left and
they got to a super Bowl. Tom is the system.

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Unlike the contemporary he played last night, he never complains
about what he doesn't have. He just makes the most
of what he does. Triangle offense, pick and roll, moneyball, Wildcat, West,
Coast Zone Red. We've given every system ever created in

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any sport a name. There's a reason we've never given
New England's one. The system doesn't exist. The name is
Tom Brady. Let me shift to this. Yesterday during a
game that Saints Ram's game that was wildly entertaining, was
it not? Those are two great teams. Michael Thomas, a

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great player for the Saints, scored a touchdown and then
went and grabbed a flip phone kind of a stick.
He'd practiced it. In fact, yesterday I saw Seattle do
a touchdown celebration that clearly they'd spent a lot of
time on. I went on the internet and saw the
Kansas City Chiefs at practice practicing celebrations. I saw Michael

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Thomas do his thing. I'm not really a fan of it.
But the NFL, it should be noted, is not a
fan of it either. They don't like it, but unlike
Major League Baseball, the NFL is brilliantly run and still
wants people in their teens in early twenties to watch
their sport. It got a penalty, So that's one of

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the reasons I don't like it. And one of my
life mottos is celebrate rarely, grind daily. I'm not a
big celebration. Rather give out presents than get them at Christmas.
That's Okay, that's just my personality. But the NFL makes
changes more often than any other league, and they're always right.
They change the pat the coaches screamed, it's made the

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game more dramatic. Protect the quarterback. This is killing football
funny only Garoppolo's hurt. No Cats rule is now the
Cat's rule, and even with celebrations, many people don't like it.
But you know why they do that because the NFL
is and has always been the best run league. They

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want viewers. They see themselves as entertainment and a TV show.
Last night's Rams Saints game and last night's Packers Patriots
game will get triple the ratings of the Eastern Conference
NBA Finals. Without Lebron Celtics Toronto, we'll get a six
and a half seven. Those things last night are getting

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fifteens and sixteens. The NFL makes rules and we always overreact.
All the games do solved. We're a dressed, nobody's heard,
and every rule change is right. I don't love what
Michael Thomas did. I'd prefer players don't have choreograph skits

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and devices lodged under goal posts. But let's talk macro here,
not micro, big picture, not small picture. The NFL does
this for you because they respect seventeen year olds, not
sixty seven year olds alone. It's what baseball continually struggles with,

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and it's why football will always be king in my
broadcasting career. They get it, adapt evolve, even if and
the league is mostly run by fifty and sixty year
old guys, even if it's a little off their personal sensibility.
They don't love this stuff. They really don't. If they did,

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they wouldn't have changed it. But with the emergence of
social media free clicks, Facebook, Instagram, this stuff lives and
plays forever. I don't love what Michael Thomas did. The
league doesn't love it, his coach didn't love it. Drew
Brees probably didn't love it. But I don't have to
love everything to get that. It's right, it's smart, it's

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good business, and it's why the NFL remains king, and
it's not even close. Coming up next, let's not talk
about system quarterback Tom Brady anymore. Let's talk about Aaron
Rodgers and what he doesn't have. He's got a new act.

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last night. It's one of our blazing five picks. We

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said take New England Packers. Here's the headline today. Packers
don't hold up their end of the bargain in the
Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady short the showdown. Of course, it's
you know, I mean, it's got to be somebody else's fault.
So you know, I look at the box score after game,
I look at stats and let's see total plays. Well,

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they both had sixty nine and rushing it was pretty similar.
They both had a decent running night. Both teams time
of possession, green Bay had it a little more. Neither
team had a defensive or special teams touchdown. But the
headline reads that Aaron Rodgers had no help. The Packers
once again let him down. I don't know. I saw

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his wide receivers make great catches. I mean Mark Quez
Valdes scandaling and over one hundred yards. Who I mean,
I couldn't have caught those. You couldn't have caught those.
Jimmy Graham had a touchdown. Davante Adams. They ran the
ball again effectively. Tom Brady did not have Gronk, who
will be a first ballot Hall of Famer, nor does
he have his best true running back, Sony Michelle Brady

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as a wide receiver now playing running back cordiall Patterson.
And yet he dropped thirty one points and with two
minutes left was kneeling Tom Brady. It should be noted
with sack twice Aaron only once Green Bay in the
last seven years, all of which has been Aaron Rodgers prime.
They have a losing road record. Apparently I had no

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idea Aaron travels on the road by himself. He gets
on the bus and it's the bus driver and Aaron
and nobody else. And then he gets on the United
Airlines plane to Foxborough and there was nobody else on it.
It was just Aaron Rodgers. By the way, in those
seven years, he's had seven Pro Bowl offensive linemen. Tom

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Brady's had two in those seven years. Wide receivers He's
had four Pro bowlers. Tom Brady's had one. Tom Brady's
the one that you could argue gets on a bus
and there's nobody there, gets on a plane and there's
nobody there. You know, I keep saying Rogers isn't Brady

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after what I saw on TV, I'm not sure he's
Drew Brees. Drew Brees dropped forty five points on the Rams.
They couldn't stop him. No, I mean they couldn't stop him.
Drew Brees is going to hold sixty to seventy percent
of all NFL quarterbacking records when he retires. His franchise

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was a mess. When he arrived. Rogers was handed a
championship team, Green Bay in New England, once again tied
entering the fourth. From that point forward, Tom Brady look
it up. Six for six one hundred and four yards,
a perfect passer rating. Aaron two of seven, fifteen yards,

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a thirty nine point six passer rating. Again, I must
have missed the point where the Packer players got on
the bus an hour early. And the worst part is,
and I do think Aaron's great. He's now melking it.
Oh no, no, no, no, the eye rolls, the exasperation.
You can read it on his face. I saw six
great quarterbacks yesterday. Six quarterback I watched Russell Wilson, Philip Rivers,

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Drew Brees, Jared Goff, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. I
watched all of them yesterday and they're all fantastic. They're
all amazing. I'm lucky to have all of them as
my quarterbacks in my life. But only one constantly in
the offseason takes the passive aggressive shots at his organization

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is exasperated on every incompletion down the field. There was
a moment for Russell Wilson yesterday where he could have
been exasperated. He threw a perfect ball that would have
tied the game against the Chargers. It was typical Russell Wilson,
rolling brilliantly fired a laser to the back of the

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end zone at home to tie the game with the Chargers,
and the ball was dropped. And what did Russell Wilson do?
Looked upset for about half a second, then instantly realized,
I'm the quarterback, I lead the franchise. No drama, no
finger pointing, and he was back to being what makes

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Russell Wilson special, no drama, no exasperation, no pointing fingers,
no passive aggressive rogers. Is great, but he has become
predictably exasperated, predictably dramatic, predictably woe is me? Watch the
body language. It's becoming a tired act. You're not on

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that bus to the stadium alone, nor are you on
that airlines to Foxborough alone. Here's Aaron after not being
on the same page too many times, whether I'm missing
a throw or we're not in the spot I think
we're gonna be at just it's happening in the in

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the worst times, you know, when we have to play
our best, in those crunch times, we haven't been playing
our best. Not saying it's all his fault, isn't twenty
twenty five percent? May be his fault? R L A X.
He's constantly telling us we're not on the same page.
When I watch him on the sidelines, why would he be.

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He's off by himself. Brady's not Joey Taylor with the news. No,
no turn on the news. This is the herd line news,
all right. So the Ram. The Rams dropped their first
game of the season yesterday against the Saints, but Sean
McBay doesn't seem to be too concerned. In fact, he
and defensive tackle Michael Brockers think the loss might even

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be a blessing in disguise. Oh we're good, we love it.
You know, you find out about yourself when you have
a little bit of adversity, and I know that everybody
in that locker room is going to respond the right way.
Have full confidence in that. Gary. Sometimes setbacks can be
set up for comebacks and the pressure is off, you know,
no more media. With a great team, you know, nobody
can be that. This game right here might be a

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blessing in disguise because you know, the Rams, we came out,
we fought back, so you never you know, csfol we're
definitely a scratching clawback. So um, this is definitely I
think of lesson in disguise to help us play a
little bit better, help us play a little bit looser too. Yeah,
I didn't think anything less of them after that. I
thought it was an amazing showcase of talent. No, my
opinion of the Rams changed, zero percent. Loss. The Saints

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are a great team. There's super Bowl level team at home.
Drew Brees is an instant Hall of Famer at home.
I mean, it's you never want to say that a
loss is a good thing, but it's not always a
terrible thing. It's not and you learn things from losses.
So that's that's more important about what's going on here?
And now, this isn't a bad loss, like you said,
They're losing to a terrible team and they fell apart.

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A is a better team at home or a team
that played better at home. That's that's all it is.
It's it would not surprise anybody, right if the Saints
won the Super Bowl, right, nobody would be There's two
or three teams in the league. You wouldn't be shocked.
Rams Saints, Patriots, and by the way, Steelers Kansas City
are not far off that you would not be shocked

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if this team at home. You know, I watched the
now I was like, this is great coaching, this is
great television, this is great talent. You can't run on
the Saints defense got Breeze, has got a great run
defense supporting him. I mean, look, the defense failed to
get the stops at the end of the game. That's
how it goes. And really, I think the bigger picture

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of what they're saying is every year we go through
this where a team is undefeated early in the season
and they're like, oh, they're gonna go under to win
the Super Bowl and it's and then one time it
did happen recently was the Patriots, and we all know
how that ended. So it's it's a good thing. You
get to make adjustments and learn from the loss. Speaking
of losing, so for third string quarterback Nathan Peterman or

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what did you call him, Perlman, Yeah, Jason Peterman catalog
ut his name gets circulated quite a bit so due
to injuries to Josh Allen who's an elbow injury and
Derek Anderson, who has a concussion, the Bill started Peterman
against the Bears yesterday and they lost forty one to nine,
and heat Hman through it to the wrong team three times,
including a pick six. Yeah. But despite all of that,
despite having as many pick six is as touchdowns, he

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hold the media he feels like he's improving. I think
I don't feel snake bit, you know, I never feel
like I'm a victim or anything like that. You know,
it's football, it's life. Things don't always bounce your way up,
and you just have to be able to take it
how it comes and learn from it and then keep
fighting for it. And I think, you know, we showed

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a lot of fight out there today and that's what
I'm proud of. I'm really for our whole offense. He
seems like a great kid. You know, it is very hard.
It's very hard to be critical of him because he
does always remain positive. You know, a couple of weeks ago,
we had a kid on the couch, EJ Manuel, and
ej struggled in the NFL. I still like the guy.
There's just some guys. This is a hard thing to
do in the NFL. Yeah. EJ Manuel had some things

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to say about Nathan Peterman too well. You know. The
thing that to me stuck out about this story is like, man,
the Bills are just not getting enough credit for how
terrible that Tyrod Taylor trade was. Yeah, that's a good point.
What are you thinking. I know, you've got a third
round pick for Tyrod Taylor and this is your quarterback
situation Tyrod Taylor. It's a bummer because he really liked

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Buffalo like he did, and he would have been a
great if you wanted to put Josh Allen out there.
He would have been a great mentor for Josh Allen
the way that they wanted they set it up in Cleveland.
For years, I've said this about quarterback. You don't have
to be great. What you can't be as chaotic Buffalo
with Tyrod Taylor this year would not have been chased exactly.
They've been seven and nine exactly. And it's it's much

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easier to go from that to a winning situation than
to go from a disaster to a winning situation, because
once you have steady losing for as long as Buffalo
has and chaos, how do you climb out of it?
Look look at what's happening in Cleveland right now, and
he broke a seventeen year playoff drought. Yeah, I mean
you're gonna get credit from us in that one, up, Buffalo.
I'm not gonna slide on that one. Finally, Lakers president

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Madic Johnson is standing by Luke Walen. So before last
night's lost to the Raptors, Magic told the La Times quote,
I said it, Luke took it, and we're all good.
It's no big deal. He's going to finish the season
unless something drastic happens, which it won't. What's drastic? I
don't know what to make of that quote, really, Like
it's it's it's a vote of confidence unless something happens.

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So it's kind of back into a corner, but not really.
I don't really know. What's going on there. Here's what
we know about the Lakers so far. Number One, they
can't compete with a team that's a top seed Toronto,
who was playing amazing and didn't even play quhy last night.
They have beaten the crappy teams Phoenix, Dallas, and they're

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very close with those like playoff level teams last year
San Antonio, Minnesota, Portland. They're exactly what we thought they
should be fifteen games into the season. They can't beat
a really really good team, in fact, they get whacked
by it. They're competitive win or lose with like the
San Antonios and Portlands of the world, and they beat
the crappy teams. Isn't this what we thought fifteen games

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and they'd be. What I don't understand about the Lakers
right now is one, at the end of the game,
they were in it. I don't understand. Didn't play a
minute in the fourth quarter. So unless there's something else
going on there, the bench pulled them within fourteen why
was he not out there? That's that I don't understand
at all, because it's not like that game they gave
up too soon in my opinion, in that game, they

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were in that game at the end, a couple shots
and a couple stops and they're right back in that game.
But also stop splitting time at the point guard position.
You can't keep splitting time between Rondo and Lonzo. You
have to make a decision. You can't get in a rhythm.
As a point guard is a very specific position. You
can't get in a rhythm when you're splitting time like that.
I understand. Sometimes they're they're hot and sometimes they're cold.
That's the whole point. Lonzo needs to develop, you know

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what Rondo is. So either start Rondo and say that
Lonzo still has time that he needs to develop, or
let Lonzo go out there and fail. Well, while you
have the opportunity to let him do that, not fail,
but grow. You can't keep splitting time. Well, they were
down forty two to ten in the first quarter, so
I think I think they just said, you know, okay, whatever,
And I think Toronto's way better, way, deeper, way, bigger, way,

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more physical, sure, but but but big picture, make a decision.
At the point guard position. You have to joy the news.
Well that's the news. The herdline news. So um, yesterday
in the NFL was separation Sunday. We're halfway through, and
let me just let's just talk about the AFC for

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a second. The AFC this morning is perfectly clear. The
Steelers and the Chargers established themselves as playoff teams. So
let's look at the divisions right now. I think it's
really clear what we have. The Chiefs, the Patriots, the Steelers,
and the Texans lead their division and they are clearly

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the best teams in their division. The Chargers, by beating Seattle,
are a flawed team and special teams, but they're really good. So, folks,
yesterday was separation Sunday. We had our questions about the Steelers.
They figured it out. Lavian Bell not here, not a problem.

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Pass rush, one of the best in football defense on
the back end, pretty much solved it La Chargers went
on the road, tough environment. They need a new field
goal kicker, but dominated Seattle. We are halfway home. It's
Week nine in the NFL and the AFC is decided.

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With one exception, New England's win in their division, Pittsburgh's
win in their division. The Texans have a two and
a half game lead. If Tennessee loses a night, they're
winning their division, and the Chiefs are winning THEIRS. The
Chargers are now officially in as an AFC wildcard team.
How do I know that? Well, I don't know. Look

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at the chargers last fifteen games. They've only lost the Rams,
the Chiefs at Jacksonville, at New England. The one opening
that appears to be available in the AFC is a
wildcard spot again, Patriots, Texans, Steelers, Kansas City. That the

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gap between those guys and the team in their division
are huge, except for Kansas City's small gap over the Chargers.
I'll say this now, I'll put it out there. The
only playoff spot available in the AFC is a wild card.
And I don't buy into Cincinnati, and I don't buy

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into Baltimore anymore. I'm gonna take the three and five
Indianapolis Colts for four reasons to make a run and
get to the playoffs. Number one is their schedule is easily,
easily the more sworkable of everybody in the NFL. Jags, Titans, Dolphins, Jags, Texans, Cowboys, Giants, Titans.

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The Colts have the easiest schedule of any team in
the NFL. Left Number two is Andrew Luck. Oh he's healthy, Yeah,
he's really good like we need to be reminded of that.
The fact he still has detractors means there's a lot
of people who just don't know football. Number three is.
I'm not saying they have an offensive line that's the elite,

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but Chris Ballard in the last two years has really
done an incredible job to solve andrew lux protection. Their
center is currently a Pro bowler at the midway point,
their left guard just one AFC Rookie of the Month.
Their tackles are good enough. They also, reason number four

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appear to have a decent running game with Marlon Mack
another good draft pick. So when I look at the AFC,
the division winners three are not in doubt. Patriots, Steelers,
Texans are not in doubt. The Chiefs is only in
doubt because of the Chargers. But I think the Colts

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will take and right now the record doesn't indicate they'll
take it bald More in Cincinnati. But when I look
at the four advantages the Colts have, schedule luck, o
line in a running game has been improved dramatically. My
vote is the Colts sneak in in the AFC. Top
of the hour are blazing five. Drew bled so Michael Vick,

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Chris Brussard, and Trent Dilfer all join us today. I
will say, let me go back to the Patriots for
a second, and it's pretty remarkable when I watched that game.
So yesterday morning, I make my son pancakes, and you
know pancakes have I go online to make them from scratch,
and pancakes haven't changed in a hundred years. Now they're

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adding blueberries to them, and a pumpkin pancake. The textures
the same, they look the same, they mostly taste the same.
You can change a few things, but a pancake's a pancake.
And I'm sitting there watching New England last night and
it cracks me up. This eighteen years. The only time
this dynasty has looked different than now was for about

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a year and half Randy Moss. Other than that, I
swear to God, twenty years from now, you're gonna give
me a tape of New England's dynasty, and I'm not
gonna tell what year it is. I mean, Brady still
looks like he did seven years ago. Brady still looks
physically like he did nine years ago, twelve years ago.
Every year is the same. They start slow. In September

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this year, they lost to the Lions. The media says
the dynasty's over. Then they get red hot in October November,
and then there's a big Sunday night football game in
Foxboro against another Super Bowl contender, and they pull away
in the fourth. Even that trick play last night look

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like the trick play they used last year and the
year before and the year before. Second half, tight game,
they need a pop and they go to a trick play.
I swear to God, twenty years from now, you're gonna
give me a tape. I'm gonna be watching highlights of
the Patriots and will all mesh together. I'll be like,
I can't tell what year it is. How do I know?

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They all look the same, even their trick plays look
the same. I mean they are. They are the pancakes
I made yesterday nineteen seventy pancakes, nineteen ninety pancakes, yesterday's pancakes.
Can't tell what here are there from unless the plates changed.
The only time they've ever looked different in New England
is that Randy Moss eighteen. Remember that one two year

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stretch where they had this wild firework show. Deep That's it.
Other than that, it's just Edelman, Welker, Hogan, Dion Branch.
It looks the same, the protections the same. Brady looks
the same. Brady. Brady wasn't one of these really mobile
early in his career, less mobile. He looks the exact same, precision, accurate.

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So basically you're saying pancakes are the greatest breakfast food about, well,
they are at our house, especially when Dad makes some
of the kid's gonna sit there and eat the extra
colin covered flair. I really don't. I don't do anything.
I just I sat there watching it. I'm like, you
could you could have shown me at tape. If I
didn't watch this game. I was sick yesterday, I slept
all day, and you said, okay, here's here's what the

(31:09):
game looked like and showed me highlights. I'd be like, okay,
I mean that looks like three years ago, because they
all looked the same. Here was Brady after the game
on sitting seven and two. Anytime you beat a good
football team, it's it feels good. So seven and two,
you know, if it's a long ways from one and
two where we were, we strung together a lot of

(31:30):
wins playing good football, and you know we gotta keep
it going. We got another another big one this week.
By the way, all the Alabama teams until TWOA look
the same. All the Yukon women's basketball champion team looks
the same. Why is that? Because success is patterns and habits.
It's sustainable patterns and habits. That's why Obama teams before

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TWA all look the same. Yukon women's basketball always looks
the same. And the Patriots outside out of the Moss years,
it all looks the same. In fact, last six years,
through nine games, they've been seven and two, seven and two,
seven and two, nine and zero seven and two seven two.
It's the same game. Drew Bledsoe's around the corner. Be
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was a four time pro bowler, played fourteen years nine
in New England, and whenever I have questions about the Patriots,
he's there often drew bledso via the Coward Global Satellite Network.
You know, I was saying, drew outside of the Randy
Moss years so much to the last decade for New
England has looked the same, and so I think a

(32:58):
lot of people fall into the well, it's a system.
But Belichick had a losing record before Tom, and players
leave and coaches leave New England and they never duplicate
this system. Is it possible that we've undervalued Brady a
little because he doesn't have the big arm, He's not
the best guy, he's not the greatest athlete. Do we
undervalue him sometimes? You know, I've said for a long time,

(33:21):
you know, with Tom, what he does on Sunday and Monday,
that's not where the greatness is. Their greatness is during
the week. You know, during the week, you know, he
holds everybody to such a high level of excellence, he's
such a great leader. And then when they get to
Sunday and Monday, then they just go put it on
the field. But their system, it's about teaching football, you know.

(33:42):
Dante Scarnekia their offensive line coach for all these years
as a guy that that should go into the Hall
of Fame, you know, as soon as he can after
he retires, because you watch their offensive line play, they
continue to get better through the course of the year
every season where they're playing their best football at the
end of the season, given Tom time to throw their
run on the ball, and um, so it's it's it
is possible to replicate it, but it has to be

(34:04):
built all the way through the whole organization. By the way,
I didn't think that Josh Gordon thing was worth the risk. Um.
I just you know, when when people have an addiction
issue that worries me. Are you surprised that Josh Gordon
the wide receiver, it appears to be getting better every Sunday.
You know, if you if you have great culture around

(34:26):
a team or really an organization, um you can bring
in somebody that's been a wild card elsewhere because now
there's just there's there's a critical mass of people that
are doing things the right way and you have to
step in line. If you don't have that great culture,
then it's a great risk, you know. And now all
of a sudden, now that that that one guy can
tear down everything else you have. But in New England,

(34:48):
you know, you can have one or two, or maybe
even three or four guys that have had trouble elsewhere,
but because the culture is so strong, they're going to
step in line. It seems to me that Aaron Um
seems more and more exasperated. He made some comments before
the year on local radio he didn't like the replacement
of the quarterback coach last night, last couple of weeks,

(35:08):
you can see that he's there's an emotional thing he's emoting.
He's frustrated, and you know, quarterbacks are the rock of
a franchise. You know, I look at McCarthy and Aaron
Rodgers and I can feel the frost. It's not what
it used to be. What's the end to it? What
do you if I said project the next three or
four years for Aaron, where does it go? Do you think, well, yeah,

(35:30):
that's a good question. I mean, Aaron's a transcendent talent.
I mean, I don't know if anybody's ever played the
position at the level that he can play the position
a quarterback at in terms of what he puts on
the field. But when you're in a place for a
long time, and you know, I mean it's it's it's
I don't want to call it a marriage, it's a partnership.
And you're with each each other every day, things can

(35:51):
start to wear within. I mean you've seen it with
with with Tommy and with Belichick. I mean, now, thankful,
they just keep winning and so everything goes away. But
when you're there for that long and you have high
expectations and you're not achieving those, it gets uncomfortable. Where
does it go from here? You know, I have no idea.
I'm not counting them out this year. I know they've
got a really tough schedule ahead, but you know, with Aaron,

(36:16):
anything is possible. The one thing I will say about
the Packers, and think about this, Think about where the
Packers would be without Aaron Rodgers, all right. I mean
I just don't think they're that great offensively. And Aaron
is sort of the you know, you hear people described
as the marion Aro sauce that goes on top of
the dish, that hides everything else, And that's kind of
what Aaron is. Without Aaron, you know, I don't know

(36:37):
if they win any games. Yeah, you know, I watched
Drew Brees in goff Battle yesterday. You remember, of course,
when Drew broke into this league and he was in
San Diego, he played in Purdue like you in college.
He put up massive numbers at a non traditional power.
Would you have ever guessed that Drew Brees all these
years later? I mean I watched him yesterday. I can

(36:58):
argue he was better than every quarterback I saw yesterday,
including Rogers and Brady. Are you surprised by his longevity
and his greatness? Um? Yes, Um, you know, I really
I didn't think i'd you know, at some point I'd
be the second best Drew to play quarterback in the NFL.
Hopefully I'm at least hopefully I'm at least still in
the top two or three. But yeah, you know, you

(37:21):
look at Drew coming in. He's undersized. You know, he
put up big numbers. Um. You know, to have him
now is the NFL's all time leading passer, and to
see him do it as well as he's done it
for as long as he has, I don't think anybody
would have predicted that. But man, it's been fun to watch.
I'm I love watching him play Sean Payton or a
match mad and haven't. I had Sean Payton for one

(37:41):
year in Dallas. He's an exceptional play caller and he's
got a great trigger man. But then beyond that, you know,
you look at at what Drew who he is, and
that makes it even more fun to to cheer for him.
You know, he's he's such so great for that community,
so great for the team, and he's done all of
it right. So man, it's it's fun. Man. I still
love watching great quarterbacks play, and that was a really

(38:02):
fun game to watch yesterday. By the way Seahawks played
the Chargers. That what the Chargers are stacked. Russell Wilson's remarkable.
I gotta tell you something. I watched Philip Rivers and
I don't know how you view him. He's got that
quirky delivery, He's barking at guys on the field. There's
so many things about him. He is so unique. You know, Drew,

(38:26):
he may be the best quarterback. We've never paid any
attention to him my life. I mean, when you watch him,
what do you see? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely no. He has
been so good for so long. He's never missed a start,
just shows up and goes to work. Is a good leader,
for that organization, and it looks like they got a
team around him now. I mean, they got some weapons,
they're running the ball a little bit, they're playing good defense,

(38:47):
and they've been flying under the radar for some reason.
Nobody's paying attention to the Chargers and they've been able
to just kind of sneak through and they're going to
be in the mix at the end. I mean, they
look really, really solid, and it's it's fun for Philip
do too many. I mean, he's been just grinding away
playing good football for a long time, and now it
looks like they've put a team around him to give
him a chance. Well. I love Philip Breeze Brady. I

(39:09):
love these older guys. Their careers are extended. There's more
three step drops. They don't get smashed. That's the way
career should end. For the record, you played at Washington State,
you're the greatest player of all time. You wouldn't say that,
but you are. Your son's now playing football, your Cougars
are and this I struggle to say this because I

(39:30):
grew up a Husky. Are eighth in the country or
no way you are. Yeah, you're eighth in the country.
I'll give you a minute here of love for the
team I grew up hating. But you're right now at
Washington State. You have shocked the world. You know what.
It's really fun so that we've got a really great
quarterback that transferred in this Gardner Minshew with his mustache,

(39:51):
and he's all of a sudden gone from a guy
that was considering just going to Alabama and starting his
coaching career. Now he's on in the Heisman conversation. Got
weapon all over the field offensively. But the biggest surprises
here we're playing great defense and it's fun, you know,
all of a sudden, you know we're you come up
here to Pullman. It's a unique place and the Coogs
are playing great football. So you know, I think it

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would be a real stretcher. Might need to be a
plane crash or two for us to get into the playoff,
but we're certainly looking like if we keep winning, we're
going to be in a pretty good bowl game at
the end of the year. Well, he's got a winery.
It's called Double Back Winery, and Walla Walla, Washington, a
beautiful part of the country. It is a world class winery.
Drew Wee always appreciate you stopping by and give it
us your insight. Thanks man, all right, Colin, always good

(40:36):
to talk to you. By all right, good to talk
to you. Yeah, wall zoos a shocker in college football.
You know it is interesting you start looking so big.
Ben's old still looks great, Philip Rivers old looks great,
Breeze old is on fire, Brady old and looks great,
and then Eli mannings olden doesn't look great. Well, maybe
it's just time to redefine what old is. Yeah, no, no, no,

(40:59):
it's a really good point is that it's not a
coincidence that Roger Federer is like still great, and that
Mayweather can still fight, and Lebron is still great and
medical advances nutrition he used to be. I mean, if
you saw thirty six for a quarterback, you're like, oh,
it's time, it's over. I watched Breeze yesterday. I gotta

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be honest with you. He looked better than any quarterback
I saw yesterday. He looked better than Ben Brady Rogers.
We're not paying attention to Drew Brees. I said this
before you all want to tell me that Rodgers is
better than Brady. I'm not sure Rodgers is better than
Drew Brees. The guy is insane. The Rams couldn't get
him off the field every time, every time they needed

(41:45):
to stop. They can't get it. Yes, and he's doing
it with kids. Yes, Oh my god, I'm telling you,
Drew Brees is amazing. Coming up next, It's a Monday
Where Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong, and there
is plenty of both Mike Vick, Trent Dilfer, Chris Brussard
Hour two coming up, Our two. This is the Herd

(42:08):
wherever you may be and however you may be listening
live in Los Angeles. iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio and FS one.
Joy Taylor is joining me on a Monday. It is
great to be in here. Tonight the Dallas Cowboys play,
so I think fairly fascinating because the AFC, I think

(42:29):
there's one playoff spot left. I'll take the Colts at
three and five to emerge. NFC is defines parody. I
think tonight, if Dallas off of Bye can't win, they're
in big trouble, especially with the Marii Cooper. So we
do it every week at this time on Monday's Where
Colin was right, Where Colin was wrong. In the last week.

(42:50):
Here we go where Colin was right, another winning week
for the Blazing five Chargers. We liked him on the road,
Vikings paid. We liked him at home sixty percent plus
this year, and it was a rough week by the way.
We have the Titans plus the points tonight, Dallas wins,
but we'll take the five five and a half with Tennessee.

(43:11):
I told the staff going in this was the least
confident I was all year. There was a lot of
wild line movement. I struggled until Friday morning to figure
out who I liked in these games. But we're three
and one, winning a game heading into the Titans plus
the points tonight, where Colin was raw. Cam Newton, I

(43:31):
didn't think he was coachable at this point in his career.
He had the money, the fame, the commercials, the MVP.
He has been incredibly coachable. He's not the MVP. He's
the MBC, the most valuable cam. Precision and accuracy have
never been better. Only four picks, sixty seven percent completion rate. Listen,

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He's a guy that has always sort of done his
own thing and sometimes to the peril of the rest
of his teammates. But at this point in his career
with a pile of money and an MVP in this division,
which is really good. To step back, take the coaching
and elevate his game to another level is really really impressive.

(44:16):
They are fun to watch where Colin was right well
in September, there were still many media members making Jim
Harbaugh Brady Hope comparisons, and I said, well, what are
you doing? Jim Harball is now four for four San
Diego Stanford forty nine ers to the Super Bowl Michigan.

(44:38):
They are easily the best team in the Big Ten.
By the way, Nick Saban's fourth year at Alabama he
had a title, but he lost three games and should
have lost four. These turnaround jobs at traditional powers are
not easy. They're not easy, and he took over a
losing culture and they didn't have great defensive talent. And

(45:03):
right now, defensively they're in the Clemson class. They're in
the Bama class. Now. I don't think they're as good
as those two teams. But once again, the media went
bananas in September bailing on Harball, and we doubled down
on him, and we were right where Colin was. Rowed.
The Lakers forward Brandon Ingram it's year three, dude. This

(45:26):
is the step up year I thought we would be
able to see very quickly. He was Lebron's number two.
His points are down. He's got no dog in him.
He's a great tease. A good quarter followed by a
bad one. He's shooting three point percentages down, and I
can tell you the Lakers are frustrated. He feels like,

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in fact, the odd man out. Kyle Kuzma, a much
less heralded draft picking player, is more offensively explosive and
more dependable. He is simply not been what I projected
he would be. Now it's early, but he just disappears.
He looks like the odd man out where Colin was

(46:09):
right didn't buy into Matt Patricia as a head coach
in the NFL. I said, he's one of those guys
that's really smart, but he looks, sounds and acts like
an assistant. And last week as his team now appears
to have just mailed it in. They weren't competitive this weekend.
They weren't competitive at home last week against Seattle. He

(46:31):
spent last week lecturing the media on posture, give me
a favorite, just kind of sit up and just like
have a little respect for the process. Every day you're
coming and ask me questions and you just kind of like,
you know, give me this, but I mean, like, just
just be a little respectful. Just I'm asking just to
be a little respectful in this whole process. Okay, So
ask me a question professionally and I'll answer it for you.
I don't think he should be lecturing people on professional

(46:54):
I mean, this is a guy that orres hat on backwards.
His coaching game Monday Night Football at home three and
five locker room looks lost. He is what we thought
he was where Colin was rowed. Todd Bulls and Sam
Darnold love him both. They have regressed badly. Listen the

(47:15):
offensive line with the Jets. They can't snap the ball consistently.
It's a bad team. All their best players are on defense.
But Darnold's regressed. His accuracy is getting worse. Bulls, who
I've said is the best coach with a losing record
in the NFL, either doesn't trust Darnold or doesn't have

(47:36):
a clever offensive bone in his body. Because Miami was
there for the taking yesterday. It was we've moved past Broctober, Tomber,
and he wasn't good and Adam Gays was on the
sideline during the games trying to figure out a play
that will work for Miami. Darnold struggled, he looked lost,

(47:57):
and the Jets are a mess. Where Colin was right
said from day one, Chargers may outside of field goal kicker,
they may have a better roster than the Rams, and
after yesterday, I'll stay with that. First of all, their
pass rush is better than the Rams. Their wide receiving corps,
believe it or not, is better than the Rams. I

(48:17):
think it's the best in football. They're running back Melvin
Gordon is the best running back in the AFC, and
unlike the Rams, they actually have a shutdown corner outside
of field goal kicker. This may be the best roster
in the league. They're fifteen and five since Week five
last year. With their losses at Jacksonville, at the Rams,
at New England, at Kansas City, and they can't beat

(48:39):
the Chiefs. They are all by the way. They just
cut their kicker, Caleb Sturgis. If you'll watch that game yesterday,
that is the least surprising thing in the NFL. The
Chargers just cut their kicker, which is the only weakness
that football team has people say, well, you just like them.

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You're in Los Angeles. Watch the Vegas lines. They went
on the road and dominated Seattle for three and a
half hours. Forget that score, it was not that close
where Colin was row. I never buy into the we
the North thing for the Raptors. But they've already beaten
the Celtics. They're seven and oh with Kawhi Leonard. Last
night they didn't play them, and they took a forty

(49:22):
one to ten lead on a Laker team that had
been in every game. Listen, man, they're deep, they're physical,
they grind. I gotta give him credit when they beat
the Celtics already er this year, I was like, wow,
I watched him play the Sixers the other night. Wasn't close,
was not competitive Toronto. I don't know how they're going

(49:42):
to do in June, but they have not missed a beat.
In fact, with Kawai they looked better than last year
where Colin was right. John Grun's now one and seven,
and it appeared on Thursday night they quit. It appears
they quit. In fact, I know I'm right when people
on the street now are coming up to me every

(50:04):
day at the gas station, or at restaurants saying, man,
you were right about John Grub. Listen, it was fairly easy.
How can you be out of anything for ten years
just on the periphery of it, and not like iron
football changes too much. It's like, you know, I always
compared to Silicon Valley. Every two years it switches. I

(50:26):
don't think he relates to players. I don't think he
understands the power now of players. And frankly, Jack del
Rio and you can't even argue this got the best
out of Derek Carr. Derek car doesn't look the same.
The fact that people are saying they should trade Derek Carr,
are you kidding me? Derek Carr? Two years ago at

(50:47):
del Rio we were saying it was a top ten
quarterback where Colin was wronged. This Josh Gordon New England
thing is working and I didn't buy into it at all.
I said, listen, he's not a trustable guy, always talented,
but there have been four wide receivers traded so far
in the NFL. Joy New England got the best one
and gave out the least. He had ten targets yesterday

(51:11):
and that's the key with Brady. It's not just the connections.
How often is Tom Brady targeting you? And in the
biggest game of the year on Sunday Night Football, he
was looking regularly for Josh Gordon downfield. That tells you
that Brady's trust level is through the roof With him

(51:34):
and Josh. We always do we had talent. This has
been way more productive than I would have predicted, where
Colin was right. Finally, Nick Saban against LSU, rinse and
repeat as predicted. They all look the same twenty nine nothing. LSU,
which has NFL bodies everywhere, is never as well coached

(51:58):
as Alabama. They can't score because they can't get the
quarterback position right. I think LSU has been shut out
four times in the last decade by one team, Alabama.
When these two teams play, I said it Friday, two
touchdowns are more. Alabama will pull away. It will look
competitive for a half because LSU is an NFL factory.

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That defense has nothing but Sunday guys. But in the end,
saving an Orgeron, it is a complete and utter coaching mismatch.
Alabama no trouble the last hour and a half of
that football game with LSU good stuff. Michael Vick is
coming up next his thoughts on what he saw last

(52:43):
night and what he saw from a guy he faced
multiple times, Drew Brees, Michael Vick, then later Chris Bruce Harden,
Trent Dilfer. Not even halfway home on a Monday Thursday night.
Football returns this week with a battle of NFL heavyweights,
as Cam Newton and Christian McCaffrey and the Panthers battle
Big Ben Antonio Brown and the Steelers. It all starts

(53:04):
at seven thirty Eastern on Fox and the found Network
and streaming on Prime Video. Of all the good teams
in the NFL, Carolina, I don't think goes over the
top and deep as well as the other teams, and
I wonder about that. And four their next five are
on the road. So this is a huge game for
Carolina because they're always sneaky good at home. For their
next five are on the road, and Pittsburgh in mid

(53:25):
November is a hard place to play. So Carolinas, the
schedules kind of worked to their advantage a little bit,
a lot of home games, but now you got to
start going on the road. Warm weather team colder weather.
That's all coming up. Thirteen years in the NFL, four
times a pro Bowlder love having them on our show

(53:45):
on Mondays. Let's bring in Michael Vick right now, comeback
player of the Year in twenty ten, number one overall
but the Falcon seventeen years ago. Most rushing yards for
a quarterback of all time, over six thousand. You know
that stuff. So Aaron Rodger Jurors, I can see his frustration.
I watched all these quarterbacks. You can see him roller's eyes.
You can see him be exasperated. How do you solve it? Well,

(54:08):
it's been the same look for the last two three years, right,
So it's like, where do you go from here? And
Aaron has head a lot of blemishes for this team
over the past couple of years, and it's time for
him to get some help. Like you look at the
New England Patriots and they went out and got Josh Gordon.
I could have easily been the Green Bay Packers. Just

(54:29):
some somebody to come in and could give Aaron Rodgers
some help. He can't continue to do it all on
his own. I won't say that because he do have
some players around him. DeVante Adams is a good player.
The kid stepped up last night and Seeva Jones Oh yeah, no,
they've got some help. I will say this. Did you
ever go to the general manager and say or a scout,

(54:52):
I mean, should Aaron do that? Yes? I think he
should be more vocal um. There were times when I
was in Philadelphia where I used to go to Harry
Roseman and say, how what you think about bringing in
the cornerback? And next thing you know, we get awesome wa.
And I thought that was great because they now now
they're listening to me, right. Andy used to call me
and look, we're thinking about bringing in certain guys Dominique, Rogers,

(55:15):
Commadi and you know it was just various guys. But
as a quarterback you have to go into a general
manners office and say, look, this is what I'm thinking
because you don't always see out of aye and what
they might think they're doing. It's best for the team
might not be best for the offensive side of the
ball or the defensive side of the ball. It sometimes
it creates a little confusing like last night Green Bay

(55:39):
had a fumble and and then there was the roughing
the kicker call, which I didn't think it was terrible call,
but a lot of people didn't like it. When I
look at Green Bay. I you know, I look at
the Chargers talent and the Saints talent and the Rams
talent and the Eagles Green Bay feels like to me,
they have to play more perfect to win. Yeah, they do,

(56:01):
and it's all predicated on Aaron. You know, I think
you mentioned the New Orleans Saints where they got you know,
mark Ingram and they got Alvin Kameron, Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas.
I mean, he has Davante Adams, but I don't even
know the name of the running back. And excuse me
for my ignorance, because I should know. But he's not
a Marquis player. When as Aaron Rodgers had a monkey

(56:24):
running back behind him where he can hand it off
to him and the guy goes for one hundred and
fifty yards on any given week. He just don't get that.
And we always talk about them pose of the running game.
So you know, their scouts, their general manager has to
take a step back and look at what he's worked
with over the past couple of years and say, Okay,
it's time for me to get him another receiver that

(56:46):
can compliment Davonte Adams. Just time to bring in another
running back. It's time to go out and get a
guy on the defensive side of the ball, like a
Khalil Mack who can be a game changer. You know,
these things have to happen. Other than that, we'll see
Aaron Rodgers continue to big games, just you know, struggle
at times. Things will work, you know, up until a
certain junk set of game. And last night it was

(57:08):
a fumble that pretty much decided to the outcome of
a game. And unfortunately for Aaron, I think he had
did enough in that game to put them in a
position to win. It's just the players around him, you know,
failed him again, and that was kind of deflating. When
you look at Brady, I don't know how many times
you faced Tom. Are you at least a little bit

(57:28):
surprised that he looks the same as he did seven
years ago. I mean, Sarah, if you put this tape
in and I had traveled to Ida, wherever I went,
I went to Kenya for ten years and get threw
a tape in. I went to Australia for ten years,
I went to New Zealand. I didn't watch any NFL. Yeah,
and you said here's a tape of Tom, and I'd
be like, oh, what year is it, And you'd be like, oh,

(57:48):
that was last Sunday. I'd be like, wait, wait a minute,
I don't. I don't understand. When you watch him, it's
the same guy seven years ago. Right, That was going
to be my point. The Tom Brady of two th
eighteen looks like the Tom Brady from two thousand and
six or two thousand and ten or two thousand and twelve.
It's all about efficiency. Everything that they do, they do

(58:12):
always works. They might have a blemish or two early
in the season where they lose a game, drop a
game one one, a couple lost two in a row,
and then you know, we all started to think that, look,
is that is this the end for Tom Brady in
the New England Patriots. And then they rip off six
or seven straight. And then they do it with guys
who you may have never heard of, or guys who

(58:34):
are starting to make a name for themselves, or they
just put guys in position where they become superstars, you know,
for that franchise. And that's the remarkable part about Bill
Belichick in his system. In time, they know how to
use guys and put them in positions to win. And
every year there's always somebody different. Do you ever have
a buddy that played for the Patriots Patrick Chung, Well,

(58:59):
he came over to Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah for a year,
spend a year with us, and the only thing he
was telling me was I gotta get back to New
And he went back to New England the next year
won a couple of Super Bowls. And I'm saying to myself,
Patrick was right. Everything that he said he would go
back and do, or the team would be able to accomplish.
They accomplished, and he knew it was a different culture

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in Philadelphia at the time. No, it wasn't the same
when you were there. Now it's different now, Yes, with
the guys. Um, so I'm you faced Drew Brees a
couple of times. Yeah, it's hard to win in New Orleans. Um.
You know, Drew and you are actually about the same size,
about two hundred and seventeen pounds. You're about six feet one. Um.
When I look at Drew, first of all, I think

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he's he's he ran for first onyesterday. He's always been
a little better athlete than we give him credit for.
He's pretty athletic. Yeah, he Um. I just think accuracy.
I just think of the way he throws the ball.
When you would be on the field with Drew what
rocky you um, his ability to just keep the chains moving, Like,

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if you don't put pressure on Drew, it's gonna be
a tough game. It's like seven on seven all over again.
And then you know, over the years he's had um
Marcus coasting and now he's got Michael Thomas, one guy
that is the focal point of the offense, and then
a couple of guys that you know, he just gets

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the ball too. They make plays at the right time.
But Drew is so efficient, man, he's so smart, and
the offense never looks the same. You know, you got
guys crossing, you got guys running deep, you got screens.
That's what they do really really well to set up
everything else that the offense does. But you know, Drew

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continues to just get better and better each and every year.
And just like Tom Brady, the Father of time, his
hasn't caught up with him yet. And I can easily
see this guy playing another three or four years. He's
that good. And he does the right things with his body,
keeps himself in shape, he eat right, and uh, he
loves the game of foos Drew loves some reason. So

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that's a big reason for his all his success. So
when you're talking about this, Joey, do you like celebrations?
I love celebrations. Okay, you like celebrations we celebrate today? Well,
I mean the NFL celebrations. I'm not a big fan
of them, but I do get why the league is
allowing it because it gets it's on Instagram, and the
kids like it and it's fun. I mean entertainment. Did

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did did Michael Thomas here by planting phones? Was that
a little over the Yeah? I think so, man, because
Joe Horne had already poured that one out there. Unless
he was just trying to prom s to n he
did it well, he didn't have the actual phone. He
did it first, yeah, and then and then Joe Horne
upped it by getting the actual phone. Okay, So I

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can't understand Joe horn pulling out a flip phone back
in the day, right, But in twenty eighteen, Michael Thomas,
he's gonna do a du it, right, pull out a
phone or a galaxy or something. Pull out pull out
a phone. The first thing, that's a good problem. It's
a good problems if you. But here's what's funny. When
I watched this play, if a quarterback did that, oh

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we'd crush him. It seems more it's fun when a
crazy wild wide receiver does it. Like a wide receiver,
we're like, but just ask yourself if if whoever it is,
Russell Wilson, Andrew Lucke. Yeah, Eli Manning, although he can't run.
If they got into the end zone and they went
to the phone, you would think, dude, what are you doing? Yeah,

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you're wasting time on the phone. Unless he did it
at the end of the game, when the game is
out of reach and he look, he's went out and
through for three hundred plus jaws and four touchdowns, then
is justifiable. Still out of the carrots of a quarterback,
but you can be justified. Yeah, So Dallas Tennessee tonight?
Is there either team you alike? I like Dallas in

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this game. I like the fact that the Cowboys have
added to Mary Cooper. I think that's what they've needed.
How long, Michael, when you add or receiver, go back
to your career. Yeah. Now, the good news was the
Cowboys gonna buy and they're at home, so you haven't
wasted a day and travel. How long does it take
you in practice to feel like, Okay, I'm under pressure,

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I'm gonna throw it to a spot and he'll be there.
It's going to take some time. That could take up
and until about a month. Really, yeah, I mean because
time and is everything. He has to you know, be
able to understand like all the details and nuances of
the offense, Like you know, instead of running a comeback
rode at eighteen, they might run him short at fifteen.

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And then he got to adjust to his steps and
know when the quarterback is going to release the ball,
and you know, I got to know when to look
for the ball. So it's a lot of variables that
come into play. What was your best relationship in your
whole career? What was your best relationship with a receiver
where you really felt like was it Roddy White? Now?

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I think it was me and Designs Jackson. Now why
because I had to adjust to Deshaun speed. He was
so fast and I had a strong arm, so it
didn't always time up. So when it came to throwing
the deep end cuts and the comeback routes, um, we
struggled throwing the deeper balls. It was fairly easy because
you know, yeah, he'd catch up to it, so I

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can pretty much put it anywhere on the field. So
we worked extremely hard trying to get on the same
page as far as all the intermediate routes and the
possession routes so that he could be effective, you know,
throughout the course of the game after four out, the
pressure ginding every day. Yes, yes, And as much as
I could throw it to him in practice, um, whether
we was going against a scout team look or just

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our defense. I tried to talk at him as much
as I could, just to make sure that I was
on the same page. Jeremy Mackman was a little easier
to throw too, because he ran good routes. Deshan ran
good routes too, But deshan speed was so great he
probably didn't have to be as good a route runner.
You know. The faster it dude is. Yeah, the less precise.
Sometimes he puts into a cornerback where he can push

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him and that he can almost do anything he wanted
to do to him once he gets to the top
of his route. Good seeing Michael gets to you. Joey
Taylor with the news. No, no, this is the herd
Line news. Well, you mentioned that you were wrong about Cam.
Panthers have a full on offensive revolution occurring. In Charlotte's
against about yesterday, the Panthers rattled off a franchise record

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thirty five first half point including five consecutive touchdowns. That
is a lot of points in high school at half.
That is a lot of points in the infens Very impressive.
So here's Ron Rivera and Cam Newton on the offense
and the offensive side. I think the biggest thing when
you look at it, um is that we use the
right kind of guys, you know North as far as

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you know, creating things and putting things together. You know,
we're taking advantage of those types of guys and we're
putting him in position you know when it's clicking. It's clicking.
As far as the talent levels, it's extremely scary, and
we possess a lot of different good matches in our favor. Look,
I think he's thinned down a little bit. It's really
impressive what's going on here. And it also I think

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shows you the importance of having a very strong offensive
mind in today's version of the NFL. Yeah, I've never
bought you know, I've never bought that Cam doesn't have help.
They've got good they have had a pro bowlers on
the old line. McCaffrey's good, grow Golson's probably gonna be
a borderline Hall of Famer. Samuel will come play. I don't.
I've never bought into that he didn't have anything to
work with. I do think joy Cam is just different

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and so I mean, if you traded for a player
and he came to Cam's offense, you'd have to learn,
you know, I mean if you if you went to
Rogers from Breeze. There's some similarities in the way they play.
Cams just plays the position differently. Yeah, but also there
may be some similarities in the way that they play.
But do you know, do you think that Drew Brees
would be as successful if he was playing in Green
Bay as opposed to playing in a dome all the time?

(01:06:55):
I don't know. Like there's a lot of questions in that.
I think where we get lots is saying that each
individual athlete, just because they play a specific position, can
just be put into any system and be successful. Everyone's different,
everyone has different attributes to them. Cam Newton is a
huge quarterback who's had some issues with accuracy to put

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an offense around him that makes him work for him. Yeah,
why does everything have to be this cookie cutter machine?
Put things in place that in the red zone at
the four yard line. I always think that's Cam's strength,
Like four yard line red zone, you can't defend him.
I mean he's literally bigger than defensive ends. He's a
better athlete. That's one of the things where if they

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can sometimes struggle in between the twenties, when they get
down to that red zone, I don't want any part
of having to face Cam. Yeah, it's really impressive what
they've been doing. Not so impressive the New York Jets.
They lost their third straight game yesterday. Sam Darnold was
pretty bad and at thirteen to six lost Dolphins through
four interceptions, including its pick six, which is actually the
only touchdown of the game. Here's Donald after his brutial performance. Yeah,

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he was brutal. And there's no excuse for you know,
how I played out there. I mean, um, I gotta
play better. It's gotta be sharper. I just gotta go
out there with a little bit you know not. You know,
I think personally, I have to have a better plan.
Once I would get to the line of scrimmage. I
just gotta know exactly where to go at the ball
and if if one or two is not there, to
go to three. So he's gotta have a better plan.
He looks so young yesterday, I mean part of the ball.

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He is young. I mean he's two years younger than
Baker and they don't have anything to work with. But yet,
here's my concern. I predicted before the year, he's gonna
have eighteen picks. He's gonna be all over the map.
He's gonna be over his head because they have battle line. Yesterday, though,
he was far worse than a month ago, and that's
what worries me. Jet Spans are a little worried. Also,

(01:08:44):
they're kind of starting to throw the Mark Sanchez comparison.
Oh boy, now he's not Mark Sanchez. H No, I
think it's way too early to panic on in this situation.
By the way, Treygeman was one in fifteen his first year.
I don't I don't like flipping out about rookie quarterbacks. Yes,
it's it's really stupid. I mean, and look look at
Jared goff Hey, Jared Goffin is in the MVP conversation.
He was because he got the right coach in the
right system, and he was worse than all these rookies

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this first year. Everyone was calling a bust. It was
a disaster. It was the worst pick in NFL history.
And now they're Super Bowl bounces. Yeah, everyone's showing the
rookie quarterback. I mean it was bad. We cooping call.
It was bad. Yeah, but you can only go up
from here. How about that? He positive. Finally, let's go
back to last week when Matt Patricia was in the
middle of speaking with the press as he and NFL

(01:09:27):
other coaches, other NFL coaches do, and he had this
exchange with the reporter who asked him about the Goldens
hate trade. Yeah, give me a favorite. Just kind of
sit up and just like have a little respect for
the process. Every day you come in and ask me
questions and you just kind of like, you know, give
me this, but i mean, like, just just be a
little respectful. Just I'm asking just to be a little
respectful in this whole process. Okay, So ask me a
question professionally and I'll answer it for you. Well, the

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Lions lost to the Vikings yesterday and the Detroit News
put this headline across the sports page clearly firing a
shots and unfortunately, when you come at someone like that,
better come correct, and they did not. You know the
thing that worries me, it's not losing the last two weeks. Joy,
The Lions haven't competed. They were never competitive in this game.

(01:10:10):
They were never competitive against Seattle. You can lose all
day long in this league. I mean, the Bears have
lost a bunch of heartbreakers. Miami's lost, But when when
I last two weeks with a droit that they are
not as bad as Oakland, but they look a little
like Oakland. I mean, it sounds silly because it's really
all about wins and losses. But how you lose matters.

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You know, you want to you want to make progress
if you're going to be losing lots of games. And
that was just that was bad and you're not helping
the situation when you do things like that. I know,
like you said, go up to the podium with a plane,
you can't fire a shot about the way that somebody's
sitting in a chair, and then not when you're not
when you're three and four, maybe if you're seven and
oh bad, Joy, the news, well that's the news and

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thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. By the way,
I said earlier, the AFC is I feel like it's set.
Patriot Steelers, Texans Chiefs are gonna win their division. Chargers
or one of the two playoff teams. My guess is
Andrew Luck and the Colts become the second wildcard team

(01:11:16):
the NFC. Good Luck. I think Dallas losing tonight, going
to three and five, I'd scratch them off the list.
I think it's a big game for them. I have
no idea. There are eleven teams with a shot to
get to the playoffs for six spots. There's only five
teams I know won't be in the playoffs, the Giants,

(01:11:37):
the Lions, the Blocks, Arizona and San Francisco. I kind
of when I look at the NFC, I kind of
look at Saints, Rams easily too best, Philly, Carolina good
but I'm not sure that close. And then Green Bay, Minnesota, Chicago, Dallas, Washington, Atlanta, Seattle,
others receiving votes now the AFC thes and the have nots.

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There is a massive gap in the NFC. There's a
handful of awful, two really great teams. Man, there is
a Ton in the middle. I think Dallas tonight loses
tonight off a bye with Amari Cooper. You can scratch
him off the list. They won't recover big game for

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the Cowboys tonight. Chris Bruce ards around the corner, people
are freaking out in laker Land. Luke Walton's job in
trouble shouldn't be it is Chris Bruce Hard Next, be
sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and
noon Easter nine am Pacific. Chris Bruce Sard. I know
he's our NBA guy, but actually he's got a radio
show with Parker. You love football. Football is my favorite sport.

(01:12:45):
But you played football, you're you. You love football. So
when you're watching the Patriots last night, you just said
something to me during the break about Aaron Rodgers and Brady.
Go ahead, Well, I love Aaron Rodgers, and I've always said,
even though he's not in the goat conversation because he
hadn't one enough, he might be the best we've ever
seen play the position. But you know what, I just

(01:13:08):
gotta admit it, Brady's better period. It's the intangibles. He
might not have the arm, or the accuracy or all
the things. Rogers has, the mobility, but he has the
intangibles to such a high level that Rogers just doesn't
have him. And Brady is better period. Last night, he
didn't have the weapons that Rogers had and Jimmy Graham

(01:13:32):
they didn't have Grounk he had, right, And this is
why I've always said that Brady's the gold or for
the last few years. Over the course of his career,
he has not had the weapons that even a Joe
Montana had With Jerry Rice, now, he had Randy Moss
for what two or three years, about a year and
a half, right, right, and it was a light show.

(01:13:55):
It was right. He broke all the records. So if
he had had a Randy Moss or a Hall of
Fame receiver like that for his career, oh my gosh,
it'd be crazy. So Brady's better period. What was the
other thing I was gonna at? What were you? What
else are we talking about? Football? Leveon Bell? Now, this
was interesting. I don't like to ever see pro athletes
give up money. I don't a you don't get it back.

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I'm watching James Connor this weekend, and I'm thinking what
you're thinking. Look, I get why Levion held out. They
only guarantee what ten million, So I get why he's
upset and he held out. But James Connor is making
you look look at other teams. Look at it like,
if I've got a great offensive line or really good
offensive line, I can find a really productive running back. Now,

(01:14:41):
I'm I would want Leveon Bell if I'm another team,
but not at Ty Gurley money. He's not getting that
type of money. I you be crazy to giving that
type of money when for how long have we seen
running backs have great four or five years stretches and
then that's it. So let's he's had a great stretch.
But am I guaranteed that if he comes to my

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team he's gonna be the Leveon Bell I saw in Pittsburgh. Oh,
by the way, James Connor is averaging more yards per carry,
is destroying Levion stackdown. Listen, it's it's a gamble, right.
You're the one that told me a couple of weeks ago.
It's funny in the NFL you hold out, in the
NBA you add out. I gotta tell you something I

(01:15:24):
don't like either. I don't like what Jimmy Butler's doing.
And I Lavan Kim on our show one time. He
was so bubbly, so fun. He made me want to
root for him. He gave up eight million dollars and
I'm telling you Todd Gurley got a lot of that money.
You know why Todd Girley got it. Not only is
a great back, he's a great dude. Right. Some of
this Lavy and stuff is failed drug question, that's question.

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Gurley is maybe the best guy. I mean the rams
between Donald Gurley and Goff. You know what else about Gurley,
He's at the beginning of that five six years stretch, right,
He's he's that I have the wear and tearror that
Levian has on him. So look, I hope he gets
paid because, as you say, I like him and he's
a great running back. But in today's NFL, I would

(01:16:10):
not break the bank for a running back at this
stage of his career when I know I can go
out and get another one. And even if I have
a great running back, that's not the critical position that
I need. Okay, let's go to the Lakers story breaks
last week that Joy and I refuse to partake in
the story. I would Joy broke the story and I
wouldn't even listen to her. Luke Walton's in trouble. It

(01:16:31):
might takeaway as oh good god. Outside of the Toronto game,
they beat the crappy teams, they compete with the good teams.
Fill me in on this. I don't get it. Here's
the thing, Like, we know some of the details leaked
about the meeting. Magic's wondering what are we doing on offense?
Their half court offense is a mess. Okay, Now, let

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me be the first to say Luke is in an
incredibly difficult position. Why he was brought in to develop
young guys. Right, he didn't really have to do anything
in Golden State when he had that little thirty run
stretch of the head coach. He comes in here, he's
brought in to develop young guys. All of a sudden,
Lebron James is dropped in your lap and Land Stevenson,

(01:17:13):
Rajan Rondo all on one year deals. So here's Luke's job,
and this is what Magic's looking at, develop the young
guys and see who can play with Lebron and who's
a keeper for the future. When now to a certain degree,
like we definitely better make the playoffs and we'd like
to get to the second round or something like that

(01:17:34):
and then create a culture that is going to attract
another superstar free agent. And that's where Luke could be
in trouble if it gets to a point and they
start losing and the whole gets so big that you
really start the question are we going to make the playoffs?
And then secondly, are we creating a culture if it

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just looks like a season full of dysfunction and we
don't know what we're doing, is that going to attract
a Kawhi Leonard or any other free agent? And that's
the problem. If he gets to that point, that's when
Luke could be Okay, let me defend Luke Walton. Brandon
Ingram has been a disappointment. I whiffed on it. I
thought he was gonna be I thought he would establish

(01:18:16):
himself as the number two this morning. I like Kuzma more.
He's the world's biggest tease. He looks like Durant. He
has moments he plays like Durant for like six minute
stretch and then he's not Kevin Durant like Doug Gottlieb.
But I were talking about this year to day, he'll
have these six minute stretches where you're like, Okay, he's
a poor man's Durant. You know, you'd be like, oh,
all that, and then he disappeared in poor man's pipp

(01:18:37):
and he can bring the ball up. He's long, he
can some of this. If Brandon had established himself Lebron
at a two, it would feel like they've got a direction. Yeah. Look,
you're right in that they have been in all these
games and had a chance to win except last night. Yeah,
but like I said, the defense is a joke, and
you're right, the defense all over the league is a joke. However,

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RELI tip to your era, you have to be one
of the top defense or at least a good defensive team.
You look at the top of the defensive standings right
now or rankings. It's Toronto, it's Golden State, it's Milwaukee.
Good teams that are really good. So you have to
play a certain modicum of defense. And then offensively, they
want to push right, run run, run, run, run, But Lebron,

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that's not Lebron's game. Lebron's teams have always been lower
or middle of the road in turns of pace, and
the young guys when they run when it's not there,
then the half court offense is a mess. So that's
stuff you do. Put on Luke again, tough job because
you got veterans. Are they gonna listen to you? Are

(01:19:43):
they do? They think they know more than you. All that, however,
that's what you that's the position you're in. And I
remember again, he's not magic and Rob Pelinka's guy. Whenever
a front office comes in and they didn't hire you,
it's gonna be tough. I don't mind that saying he's

(01:20:04):
about to get fired. I'm just saying those are all
factors in this situation. What about tylu tylu somebody mentioned
to me Jason Kidd, Mark Jackson. You know, Look, the
Lakers have in contact with any of these people. I
know that for a fact. But these are names that
people have thrown out to me. If Luke takes the fall,

(01:20:26):
and if it gets bad, we all know he's gonna
be the scapegoat, fairly or unfairly. No, you're right, you
know he's not gonna be the front office. It's not
gonna be the players. Right, So somebody's getting traded at
the deadline, and I might take away as fifteen more
brandon Ingram disappearing acts, and I think Lebron goes to

(01:20:46):
them and says he ain't the guy because you know what,
one thing Lebron doesn't like. Lebron likes a little dog.
Like he didn't want to play with Andrew Wiggins, he
had no interest. If Lebron doesn't, Lebron couldn't live with
your flaws. But if you don't have a little dog
in you, Lebron's out. Here's the other things. If you
watch him, does he look a little disengaged at time?

(01:21:07):
He does. Mentally he said it's gonna take time, let
me be patient. However, he is disgusted by bad basketball,
just instinctively, like he's not trying to be. But when
when you don't know where you're supposed to be, when
the space is terrible, when the mister simons, it just
eats him up instinctively. And that's what you see out

(01:21:27):
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(01:21:48):
great football guy, loves football. Trent Dilfer in fifteen minutes
comes on Monday's Love Trent Again. Trent just expands my
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comes on the show. So we'll talk about a lot
of different stuff. And it's been a fun show on
a Monday. What it Cowboys Titans tonight And later in

(01:22:08):
the show, we're gonna do something. We're gonna start doing
something for the next twelve or thirteen weeks. It's our
three word game with every NFL game? Can you sum
them up briefly? And I think we had a very
unique weekend, So we'll do that. So that's best for
last later. But we were all so excited last night

(01:22:28):
for the Patriots against the Green Bay Packers Sunday Night
football Packers Patriots. So let me get to it. Last
night I was going to see the great Aaron Rodgers
and the system quarterback Tom Brady, and I want to
talk about that system in New England. It's fascinating. The

(01:22:48):
most fascinating thing about Tom Brady system quarterback is that
you know systems get names in basketball, the Triangle offense,
I mean, by the first championship, they gave it a name.
In the NBA, the pick and roll offense we love
getting baseball moneyball. In football, the West Coast offense, the

(01:23:13):
Wildcat offense, the Wishbone offense. In the fifties, sixties, seventies.
Even defenses get nicknames, joy the four six defense. We
love giving nicknames to defense his offenses baseball, basketball in
the NBA. But why doesn't New England system have a nickname?

(01:23:34):
Eighteen years been on TV more than any team except
the Cowboys. I mean, Joe Montana won with the West
Coast offense and the whole Way one with Mike Shanahan
and offensive coaches zone blocking scheme. It's funny Belichick's a
defensive coach. Defensive coaches don't have offensive systems, do they

(01:23:56):
an offensive system? Systems in general get copied. But how
come nobody else in the league looks like New England?
You ever noticed that, I mean systems. Everybody copied the
West Coast offense they still do. Everybody copied the four
six defense they still do. People copy the pick and roll,
moneyball analytics, the Wildcat for two years was red hot.

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But how come nobody Nobody copies New England system. It's
funny when the coordinators leave town and they go to
new teams, the offense doesn't look like New England. It
is so weird. People say a lot of things. Hold
them to what they say. Hey, Colin, I'll tell you

(01:24:38):
what the system's called. It's called Belichick. Oh get the
man in Milwaukee's best He beat me on that one.
Oh wait, he didn't. You mean the Bill Belichick that
had a losing record in Cleveland and was fired before
Tom Brady. That system, the system that was five and
eleven his first year and a half in New England

(01:25:00):
with a great Drew bledsoe. That system. I'll tell you
what the system is calling. It's throwing to the tight end.
Actually the last three years, New England's got a better record.
When Gronk's out, he was last night they won convincingly. Oh,
it's just throwing to slot receivers, which one Welker, Dion

(01:25:21):
Branch Edelman. Hogan got to a Super Bowl without Edelman
last year. In fact, New England and Tom Brady have
gotten to three gotten to Super Bowls with three different coordinators.
They've made the playoffs three times with no offensive coordinator.
In fact, this is fascinating. You could call this the

(01:25:41):
headless system. They don't even need coaches for it. Let
me describe New England's system under Tom Brady. They're smarter
than you pre snap, They're more precise and accurate than you.
They're always better in the fourth quarter than you. They're
more prepared than you, more coachable than you, and more

(01:26:03):
committed than you. If you want to call that a system,
you can call it whatever you'd like. But we know
in football, especially, we love to give nicknames. We don't
even call him Terrell Owens. He's t O Jacksonville overnight
became Saxonville, Legion of Boom. Everybody's got a nickname. Because

(01:26:28):
we give systems nicknames. It's easy. The fans can embrace it,
network promos and marketing. But yet nobody has ever named
New England system because it doesn't exist. Tom Brady, my friends,
is the system. Let me shift to this. Yesterday during

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a game that Saints Ram's game that was wildly entertaining,
was it not? Those are two great teams. Michael Thomas,
a great player for the SAT scored a touchdown and
then went and grabbed a flip phone kind of a stick.
He'd practiced it. In fact, yesterday I saw Seattle do
a touchdown celebration that clearly they'd spent a lot of
time on. I went on the internet and saw the

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Kansas City Chiefs at practice practicing celebrations. I saw Michael
Thomas do his thing. I'm not really a fan of it,
but the NFL, it should be noted, is not a
fan of it either. They don't like it. It got
a penalty, so that's one of the reasons I don't
like it. And one of my life mottos is celebrate rarely,

(01:27:37):
grind daily. I'm not a big celebration. Rather give out
presents than get them at Christmas. That's okay, that's just
my personality. But the NFL makes changes more often than
any other league, and they're always right. They changed the
pat The coaches screamed, it's made the game more dramatic.
Protect the quarterback. This is killing football. Funny only Gara

(01:28:00):
Below's hurt. No Cats rule is now the Cat's rule.
And even with celebrations, many people don't like it. But
you know why they do that, because the NFL is
and has always been the best run league. They want viewers.
They see themselves as entertainment and a TV show. Last
night's Rams Saints game and last night's Packers Patriots game

(01:28:25):
will get triple the ratings of the Eastern Conference NBA Finals.
Without Lebron Celtics Toronto, we'll get a six and a
half seven. Those things last night are getting fifteens and sixteens.
The NFL makes rules and we always overreact. Oh, the
games do solved. We're a dressed nobody's heart and every

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rule change is right. I don't love what Michael Thomas did.
I'd prefer players don't have choreographs, skits and devices lodged
under goal posts. But let's talk macro here, not micro,
big picture, not small picture. The NFL does this for

(01:29:08):
you because they respect seventeen year olds, not sixty seven
year olds alone. It's what baseball continually struggles with, and
it's why football will always be king in my broadcasting career.
They get it, adapt, evolve, even if and the league

(01:29:29):
is mostly run by fifty and sixty year old guys,
even if it's a little off their personal sensibility. They
don't love this stuff. They really don't. If they did,
they wouldn't have changed it. But with the emergence of
social media free clicks, Facebook, Instagram, this stuff lives and
plays forever. I don't love what Michael Thomas did. The

(01:29:53):
league doesn't love it, his coach didn't love it. Drew
Brees probably didn't love it. But I don't have to
love everything to get that. It's right, it's smart, it's
good business, and it's why the NFL remains king and
it's not even close. I really do. I when I'm
watching Brady and Rogers last night, and back to my

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opening point. If Tom's such a system quarterback, why didn't
the system have a name? Because New England doesn't have
a system. What they have is the greatest quarterback that's
ever played. If it's such a great system, we give
nicknames to everything. We name every system. We've done it
for every player, every system. Why doesn't New England system
have a name? Because if there's no system to it,

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Tom's great. Belichick couldn't win without him. Belichick couldn't win
in New England Withdrew Bledsoe like Tom's great, and that's
why everybody leaves and New England's offense doesn't leave with it.
They got they got the playbook. Josh McDaniels had the playbook.
Charlie weiss had the playbook. Bill O'Brien had the playbook.
They had all the plays, but yet they couldn't do

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Blgate the offense. And a lot of times those guys
had better receivers than New England, better tight ends, better
offensive tackles. They had all the ingredients, but the cat
never tasted the same. Why because Brady's the ingredient. There
is no system. Brady's great. Here's another thing. I saw
this stat that cracks me up. We know Belichick, smart guy.
Remember the Malcolm Butler stuff Joy so who could forget it?

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He didn't play Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl, and
everybody's like Belichick, don noise Joy stupid. Malcolm Butler is
now a cornerback for Tennessee. Quarterback ratings for quarterbacks who
throw against Malcolm Butler over one hundred forty. Yeah, over

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half in the NFL Super Bowl, in a Pro Bowl.
His name is Trent Dell for via the Coward Global
Satellite Network. All right, we've been I've been yamming, yammering
him at this all day about the system system system.
I'm tired of hearing about the system system system because generally,
if if it is a great system, like the Triangle
offense or West Coast offense, we give it a name.
Can you explain to me what the system in New

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England is? Well, I think what they've done over what
is it eighteen years better than anybody else's evolved week
to week? Or a game plan system they put together
a game plan that attacks your weaknesses allows their own
players to do what they do best most often. Now
that's an easy way of saying it, but what's the foundation,

(01:33:11):
and the foundation that is teaching and learning. They have
great teachers as their coaches. They have players that are
willing to learn ball every week. They have discipline, they
have work ethic, they have precision, they have poise, they
have all those are the that's the foundation for which
you can build a game plan system off of. So yeah,
I agree with you that a lot of times we

(01:33:33):
can put how people play in a box. With the Patriots,
they never look the same and that's what makes them
so hard to defend. Now I understand your argument that
Tom Brady is the system. Well, you probably couldn't do
that unless Tom Brady is your quarterback. The burden that
he has to carry each week to continue to learn,
even at this stage of his career, to teach the
other players, to maintain the work ethic in the in

(01:33:56):
the film room, in the weight room, on the practice field.
I heard what youre Bledsoe said earlier in the show,
how the real genius is what he does Tuesday through Saturday,
and I agree with that. But that's all. All that
stuff is what allows them to have a system that
evolves and changes every week. Now I'm going to say something.

(01:34:17):
You tell me if this is unfair, is that increasingly
when Aaron loses big games, it feels like to me
more and more I hear excuses. He's got some nice
offensive pieces and they've drafted some good players. I watched
it last night for three quarters in Foxborough. That puppy
was even. I do feel like in the last couple

(01:34:39):
of years we're lining up too many excuses. Now people
will say I'm anti Aaron. When I say that, am
I over the top? What do you? How's that land
for you? Well? No, I don't think it's unfair, And
I'm the most pro Aaron guy there is. I've known
him since he was in college and it's been a
lot of time with Aaron. And back when at your
old place, when we first started to doing a segment together,

(01:35:02):
I was wanting to convince you Aaron Rodgers is going
to be good. Yeah, um, when it was a backup
Frett Farm. So I'm very pro Aaron, but I agree
with you. I sense that everybody has already built in
an excuse for Aaron when they don't win. I feel
like when when they do win and he plays great,
he's the reason they win. And when they when they

(01:35:22):
don't win, he's never the reason they lost. It's always
something else. I think there are plenty talented I don't
think he needs more weapons. My biggest thing that I
wish I could see with Aaron Rodgers that is for
him to be able to play in a system an
offense that's as innovative is the Chiefs or the Saints

(01:35:45):
or the Rams or the Patriots, where there's multiple sets,
there's multiple motions. There's ten previsa game, as I call him,
where each quarterback starts the game with ten completions because
the coach out schemes the defense. It seems like Aaron
has to work harder in game because of how static
his offense is than the other great quarterback. But I

(01:36:08):
don't think it's unfair. It does seem like there's a
pity party around Aaron Rodgers anytime they don't win, and
the national media has just kind of gone to a
default default mode where oh they lost, it wasn't Aaron's fault,
Oh they won. Aaron was the greatest player on the
planet and last night. By the way, last night, he
did not play very well. Tom Brady didn't play great either.

(01:36:29):
That that game last night was more about the other
eighty eight guys on the field than the two quarterbacks.
I didn't think either quarterback, and I bet you they
would both tell you this. I felt like, there's as sharp.
They were as sharp as they needed to be. Now,
Drew Breese was sharp. Do you see it? And I say,
you know, everybody always tells me Rogers is better than Brady,
and I'm like, I'm not sure he's better than Breeze.
Breeze is so great to me, and I see comparisons

(01:36:51):
when you look at Rogers and Breeze. Let's go to Drew.
Is he completely polar opposite of Aaron Compare the two, Yeah,
they hard to compare. Eric's are very different players and
again different offenses. I think through at this point of
his career, is is precisely he's ever been. He's always
been one of the most um precise guys in the
league playing the position. But he's a completion first guy.

(01:37:13):
He's working plays usually meaning low to high. He's a
guy that's going to try to get the ball out
of his hand. As fast as he can to a
great athlete, let him get those yards after the catch numbers.
Where Aaron has that in his game, and when they're
playing really well, that's how they attack you. But Aaron
also likes to improvise. He likes to look look to

(01:37:36):
kind of bring the machete out and get you with
one shot. M So they're very different players. I think
if Aaron played that's twice said that earlier. If Aaron
played in a death by a thousand cut system like
threw frees does, where you're just nicking away, nicking away,
nicking away, nicking away, waiting for the defense to make mistake,
then strike, I think he would be far more successful

(01:37:58):
than he's been. He's always already been of the great
players in our league. So they're very hard to compare
just because of how they play the game. Very differently. Okay,
Cowboys tonight. This is a huge win because the NFC
is wide open and Amari Cooper comes to town. So
ten days, maybe nine practices haven't played a game together.

(01:38:20):
Do you expect him to click tonight? I mean, what
do you expect to see? How comfortable will they be?
Go back to your career, how many practices do you
need how many? I mean, what am I going to
see tonight with a Mari and dak Well To truly
feel that master the offense going to take him probably
a month, but they it's very important that he plays

(01:38:41):
well tonight. It's very important in my opinion, that the
Cowboys showcase in tonight. There are plenty of ways to
get him involved in the game that don't take a
month of reps to get comfortable with. You can identify
stuff that he mastered in Oakland and implement that stuff
into your system in Dallas. Look what Houston did with
Maari's Thomas yesterday. They immediately got him involved with a

(01:39:03):
screen with a wide receiver screen. They got him running
a dig route, which he did a ton of endeaver.
So they found two things that Themarius Thomas did very
well endeaver and utilized it his first time playing in Houston.
The Cowboys have to do the same two with the
Mark Cooper. He has to be showcased tonight. I think
for the NFC's is a toss up and for the Cowboys,

(01:39:25):
one they have to win this game, but two they
have to win in a certain way that creates that
excitement pre stop buzz around that trade and around this
Cowboys team. I mean the reality of it is your show,
every other show is going to talk about the Cowboys
more than any other team. So when they are on
prime time, the coaching staff and the players have to
be aware it's not just about winning, but it's about

(01:39:46):
how we look while we win, too, because we want
the narratives around our team to be exciting and forward
thinking and to create a real buzz around this Cowboys team.
And I think the way they do that is to
get a Mark Cooper involved early in office. You know,
it's interesting. I'm watching the Chargers and they're so loaded.

(01:40:07):
They just cut their field goal kickers to day, which
was not not unsurprising. But they don't have a home
field really, and they're kind of the second clearly, the
second banana in the town therein and they just moved
when I look at their talent. You said this last
week the best running back in LA may not be
taught Gurley. Maybe you know the Charger running back Melvin Gordon.

(01:40:31):
But here's what I wonder. They don't have a home field.
They're kind of their history. Their history is they blow it.
Does that stuff matter? Like media guys like me. But
I look at the Chargers and I'm like, God, I
just can't trust them after Thanksgiving, and I love their personnel.
Do you think players in that locker room think about

(01:40:52):
that stuff too. I think that it's a danger lurking
if they listen to it, and when they start going bad,
the dangers that people start believing those narratives. I do
think when you have a leader like Philip Rivers, when
you have veterans on that team that have been there
and done it, that they're not going to allow that

(01:41:13):
to takeover. In fact, they think not having a home
field and playing second fiddle to the Rams in LA
and all the things, all the doubting that goes on
around their team because of past experiences, can really become
a rallying pride for you and develop a chip on
your shoulder and team chemistry. Team dynamics are so important
and it's so hard to explain. Sometimes they're indangible, they're

(01:41:34):
very hard to put your finger on. But great teams
with great leaders typically can use that other stuff to
develop a chip on their shoulders, like I said, and
a rallying pride for their team. Hey, you're gonna respect
us with how we play, even if you don't respect
us at every other level. By the way, is there

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you know I watch the Panthers. This is the best
I've ever seen Cam. They don't have a great component
over the top. It's a lot of running. He's more precise.
I don't know if I put him in that Super
Bowl bubble yet or not. What do you make of Carolina?
I think that whole. I think they're very physical. They're

(01:42:18):
one or more physical teams in the league, both offensively
and defensively. They're hard to defend. They're hard to prepare
for because of the quarterback driven runs with Cam, because
Nord is a great innovator north from their offensive coordinator.
They do a lot offensively, so they're hard to prepare for.
And they have nice pieces. They have pieces that fit
who they are. They have explosive qualities. They're just not

(01:42:40):
necessarily out on the perimeter their explosive qualities or their quarterback.
They're runner. They integrated the Samuel Kidd yesterday from Ohio State.
He looks like he's got some explosive qualities. And then
Greg olsen Is has been is and has been one
of the best tight ends this league. Scene He's a
guy that is a sneaky, big play and as you

(01:43:01):
saw by the great catch yesterday and just his career
in general, has always been a guy who's been able
to really strike you. So they're a dangerous football team
and I think they're one of the few teams right
now in the league that can play really good defense
when they need to. Yeah, they play a different style.
I think you said it early. They their tape looks
different than everybody else's tape, and if you're not ready
for it, you can get dogged. Finally, I'm not a

(01:43:23):
big celebration guy. I never want to be old, cranky,
yelling at the cloud guy. But I'm not a big
celebration guy. It's my DNA m joys more into it. Um.
I get why the NFL allows it. I really absolutely do.
And I think it's really smart social you know, Instagram
and all this stuff and stuff lives forever and gets clicks.

(01:43:45):
Should we do celeb Are they going overboard? What do
you make of it? No, I'm with you. Um, I
don't love it, but I think it's cool that they
do it now. I think athletes like to express themselves too,
And the work week in the NFL is hard and
your body hurts, and they're there's not a lot of
fun that goes on. I think it adds levity to
the week. When you have these teams practicing what they're

(01:44:05):
gonna do. It's not taking away from their preparation. I
think it allows athletes it's hard to get in the
end zone. It allows them to celebrate a little bit.
I agree with you. It's good that the league's allowed
it because it relates to a younger crowd. People people
like this stuff. I giggle sometimes. I think it's to me,
it's just not a big issue. It doesn't make me

(01:44:26):
want to watch football or make me not want to
watch football. I'm glad they're allowing more of it. I
hope it doesn't cross a line where it becomes disrespectful
and appropriate. To this point, I haven't seen that happen,
and I think that's why they'll still keep their their
finger on a little bit, still penalize because they don't
want it to go over forward. It becomes something that
can be an embarrassed you know what, I think you

(01:44:47):
really nailed it. Football practice is hard. It's hard, it is.
I mean, I listen, I was a quarterback a crappy one.
But I didn't even have to hit people. I hated
a football practice. And you were in Tampa for a
lot of your years. Then you were in Cleveland, so
you're either in suffocating heat or you're in brutal, windy cold,
and I think you kind of nailed it to keep

(01:45:09):
a locker room a little light. Celebrations are it's they've
done wrong six minutes a day after practice doing this.
One of the most important things you can do in
an NFL locker room is find ways to add levity
to the work week, because again, the whole thing is hard.
I think the biggest thing is your body hurts. And
anybody's ever dealt with chronic pain. You're sitting on your

(01:45:30):
couch right now watching the show, and you had a
knee replacement, or you have arthritis or whatever it is.
Chronic pain makes you miserable. And NFL players live with
chronic pain every single day. Their bodies hurt from the
Sunday before and then they have a lot pushed on them,
high expectations when they go into the work work week,
and you have to find creative ways as coaches, as

(01:45:53):
leaders on the team to kind of soften the week.
Let guys have some fun and like I said, just
give them a break from the would not be in
the grind of what is an NFL work week. Trent,
love having you on, buddy, great talking again, Thanks partner,
good stuff. Yeah, that's a good way to look at it.
That is like what we do for a living is fun.
We don't tackle people. Like if you were coming over

(01:46:14):
and tackling me twice a show and Goolay was putting
me in a headlock and knocking me out a bound,
you have a very short career. Yes, yeah, then I
would be all for Goolay spiking the microphone. But like
when you have an easy job and you just talk. Also,
this isn't new, these celebrations you're spending the league forever.
It's it's it's been a part of the league far
before social existed. Everyone's just making a bigger deal of

(01:46:36):
it now because last year there were a bunch of
penalties and everyone was complaining about the penalties because it's silly.
It's been around forever. It's part of just ta taunt.
I don't want taunting. Don't go up to a guy's
face and jam a ball. No, But nobody's doing that,
and it's not going to spiral into that anyway, because
that's not the spirit of the celebration. It's hard to
score a touchdown, it is, and fans celebrate so and

(01:46:58):
everybody and every personality is different. No matter what the
bulls are, there's never gonna be every single Larry Fitzgerald
is not going to all of a sudden turn into
to like people are who they are. There's certain guys
are just gonna get in the end zone and go
hand the ball to the ref and other guys are
gonna have celebrations. That's what they do. I feel like
I learned something there from you and Trent. When shopping
for car insurance, consider a Geico seventy five years. They

(01:47:19):
know what they're doing. Good prices. Guigo dot com. Joy
with the news. No, no, this is the herd line news. Yeah,
my brother had a signature sack celebration. What did he do?
He did not consult me on it. He drew a
bulls eye and then he punched through it. That's the thing.
Sometimes he kicked the Okay, he didn't consult me on

(01:47:41):
that one. Yeah. I liked it though. Yeah, all right,
So the Rams shop their first game of the season
yesterday against the Saints. Um, not really a big deal.
Saints are a very good football team. John McVeigh doesn't
seem to be concerned. In fact, he and defensive tackle
Michael Brockers think the loss might even be a blessing
in disguise. Oh we're good. We love we love it.
You know, you find out about yourself when you have
a little bit of adversity, and I know that everybody

(01:48:03):
in that locker room is going to respond the right way.
Have full confidence in that, Gary. Sometimes setbacks can be
set up for comebacks, the pressures of you know, no
more media. With a great team, you know, nobody can
be that. This game right here might be a blessing
in disguise because you know the Rams, we came out,
we fought back, so you never you know, CSFO, we're
definitely a you know, scratching claudback. So, um, this is

(01:48:24):
definitely I think of letting in disguise to help us
play a little bit better, help us play a little
bit looser too. If I told you joy yesterday Rams Saints,
you watch the NFC Championship, would you be shocked if
they met again? That looks like to me, that's who.
And I don't even think it's that close. I think
Philadelphia and Carolina look a little bit like them, but

(01:48:46):
I think they are a touchdown or more better than
everybody else in the NFC. Yes, they have they have consistency,
they have great coaching. The Saints have proven that they've
been there before. Absolutely, I would say I'm not going
to go as far as say the pressures off the Rams. No, no,
that's for sure. But my opinion of the Rams is
not changed based up this loss is this is not

(01:49:07):
a bad loss. It didn't lose to a bad team.
You know what it looks like right now, Brady Drew
Brees super Bowl. Oh my god, my head explode head.
That would be that great. That would be the best
since I got Russell Wilson and Brady and the Super Bowl.
If I get look at even Goolay, the pessimist is
lighting up. If I get Brady this morning, Brady and

(01:49:29):
Breede in the Super Bowl, I'll take it. Cancel the
rest of the year, I'll take it. I'll pay my
own way. Just for nostalgia purposes and just in the
interest of time, I would say that that's that's something
to root for because God be good. Rams would be
pretty good too. Do we have some time for that,
Jared Gods gonna get to the end for Drew Brees. Yes,

(01:49:50):
I'm Brady, so I'll vote for that, just because we
have longer with the rest of them. All right, So
Cam Newton seven himself a year the Panthers. Panthers have
a flaw on offensive revolution going on. Yeah, we were
just talking about it with Tran Doper and they went
against the Bucks yesterday. The bottle it off a franchise
record thirty five first half points, five consecutive touchdown drives.
Here is Ron Rivera and Cam Newton on their offense

(01:50:11):
on the offensive side. I think the biggest thing when
you look at it is that we use the right
kind of guys, you know North as far as you
know creating things and putting things together, you know, we're
taking advantage of those types of guys and we're putting
in position no. When it's clicking is clicking. But as
far as the talent level on his team, it's extremely
scary and we possess a lot of different good matchups

(01:50:34):
in our favor. By the way, nobody ever talks about
Ron Rivera every Carolina team he's coached is tough, and
he looks like a tough guy. All I know, you
become your coach. I mean, Belichick smart. You know, his
parents were all like multiple degrees. His mom had like,
you know, spoke seven languages, and his teams tend to
be really smart. I don't know Ron Rivera, but every

(01:50:56):
time I watch Carolina since he's been there, you they
are are ready for a fight. They are physical, they
are tough, and they're consistent for that as far. Yeah,
I mean, he just doesn't get mentioned, and it's like
I don't know him, but when I think of Carolina,
the first thing I think of is tough, physical, pounded
in your face. Well, I don't think he gets mentioned

(01:51:16):
too much because he's a he's a very good podium guy.
He's a very good he doesn't get, he never gets,
he never steps in it says the right thing. He's
a very good podium guy. So he probably doesn't get
as much credit as he deserves. But I will say Cam,
Cam has gotten in trouble with the podium before. Yeah,
but I think the league is better when Cam Newton
is winning. Oh god, he's just so dynamic. Oh god, Yes,

(01:51:39):
and he really a star and it and it helps
the league when he's when he's one. He Also the
thing about Cam is this cannot be he's good looking. Dude, Dude,
he's a he's a model. He's a he looks like
a sixth six and he dresses like a fat He's
a star. He's yeah, he's a fan. He has the
ser man, he's he has the commercials like it's I
got nothing against Kurt Cousins, but Kirk we could walk

(01:52:01):
in this room, does give a very good pregame speech.
He gets very rowdy. Cam. Leagues are better with stars.
Cam Newton is a super and he's always been. He's
always been out there, even before it was it's now
being pushed to market the stars. Finally, Lakers president Magic
Johnson is standing by Luke Walton sort of before last

(01:52:22):
night's lost to the Raptors. Magic told La Times quote,
I said it, Luke took it well, and we're all good.
It's no big deal. He's gonna finish the season unless
something drastic happens, which it won't. So I don't know
what to make of that. It's kind of like a
little lukewarm endorsement. There is Drastick trailing forty two to

(01:52:43):
ten in Toronto at home. Yeah, this wasn't before the game. Also,
the Suns officially agree to a buyout of Tyson Chandler's contract,
which will allow the eighteen year bet to sign with
the Lakers. I like that move for the Lakers. Tasa
Chandler is a smart, smart, very good better and that's
going to help them out a lot. They sit at
four and six hundred time for the fifth worst in
the Western Conference. They host Minnesota on Wednesday nights. I

(01:53:05):
still maintain it's not panic time. My suggestion for the
Lakers is to pick a point guard, and my suggestion
would be Lonzeball. Either way, Tyson Chandler has been in
this league. I saw him playing high school eighteen years
I think he played at Domingus Hills. I saw him
in high school in a basketball tournament in Portland, Oregon.
He had an alley open. He was about sixteen years old.
He weighed one hundred and nine pounds. Twenty years later,

(01:53:26):
he's still playing in the Association. It's very impressive. Smart.
I think he has it like he's an artist or something.
He's like he's like coaches love Tyson Chandler. Now he's yeah,
he's and he's a player's guy, like I mean, eighteen years,
you have respect in the league. So good stuff. Joy
with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping.
But the herd line coming up. Something new. We're doing
all sum up every NFL game from week nine and

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three words. That's next and best for last. Saturday, Dwayne
Haskins and the Ohio State Buckeyes look to keep their
Big ten and playoff hopes alive as they enter a
high stakes showdown with Michigan State that Saturday, eleven thirty
Eastern on Fox or watched anywhere on the Fox Sports app.
Ohio States a mess off of buy they struggled against Nebraska.
That program is broken. I don't know if they have

(01:54:09):
too many NFL guys on the team and they're looking
ahead to Sunday. They are you know Urban Meyer at
Florida and Urban Meyer Ohio State. The knock Io was
hurt on Urban Meyer was he was too loose. He
was like the easy you know, ice cream for breakfast
parent and programs unravel. He's very good. People buy into it.
They're a mess. Ohio States are broken. Program there if

(01:54:30):
they played Michigan this afternoon, they get beat by four touchdowns.
They are I'm not sure they beat Northwestern today. Nebraska's
in a rebuilding mode and dropped over thirty on him.
They can't stop anybody, by the way, pros and no
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US only Lowe's best for last. After almost three hours,
Colin apparently hasn't gotten to the point yet. Quit holding
out on us. Cowherd, it's the best for last. So
we thought on Mondays, can you just wrap up every
game in three words? And I think almost all the

(01:55:14):
time in sports you could maybe do it in politics.
Too short, succinct, simple, distill it down to three words.
So we're gonna look at every game starting Thursday, and
here we go. Let's start with the Raiders and the
forty nine ers are three words, the Grood awakening. Listen,
they lost the locker room. Dave wants that always tells

(01:55:35):
me this. He says, you can lose games, you can't
lose the locker room. As a coach and they've lost it.
Do you realize the Raiders are allowing more yards per
play than any team in NFL history. John Gruden's not
only losing games, He's lost the locker room. Bears Bills.

(01:56:01):
Consider the opponent. Listen. The Bears one forty one to nine.
They are five and three in first place in the
NFC North. Matt Nagikan coach, The defensive front is real.
I still think the ceiling is really low with Mitch Trubisky.
I think they're a year away. He's gonna need more weapons.

(01:56:23):
Just not much I can take from this game. They
lose to the toughest teams and they dominate the cruddy teams.
Kind of a Mike Tyson quality. Beat the bad opponent,
struggle with the good ones. Buccaneers, Panthers, Yes they Cam. Listen.
Cam's completing sixty seven percent of his throws this year.

(01:56:44):
He's not a precision quarterback. This is a real thing.
I didn't think he'd be coachable at this point in
his career. He's knocked it out of the park. Chiefs,
Browns one franchise quarterback. That's a cheap shot. Colin listen.
Cleveland falls to two six and one. I watched all
these rookie quarterbacks. They all need help. Cleveland can't keep

(01:57:07):
a coordinator or a coach for Mayfield. And the other
thing is now Cleveland's offensive line looks about as bad
as the New York Jets with Sam Darnold. Right now,
for all these rookie quarterbacks, let's just burn the tapes
of year run one Jets. Dolphins tough to watch. Dolphins
couldn't move the ball. Sam Darnold has regressed his accuracy,

(01:57:31):
which was never his greatest asset. He was always a
little reckless. I predicted before the season started. Joy were here.
I said, he's gonna have eighteen interceptions. It's gonna lead
the league. He's the youngest quarterback. He's gonna be really choppy,
and they'll be as good as his running game. Well
now they can't run the football. Translation, the Jets can't
move the football. They need for the record, a new center,

(01:57:53):
a new left tackle, two backs, and two receivers outside
a tight end and Donald I don't like any of
their offensive Snell Steelers ravens AFC North Champs. Steelers have
won four straight. They don't miss Lavian Bell. Their pass
rush has been terrific. For the last month, and they've

(01:58:13):
solved their defensive issues on the back end. Lions Vikings
three word game good never great. Listen, I'll say this.
They set a franchise record for sacks in the game
with ten. I always feel the same about Minnesota as
they do about Kirk Cousins. They're good, But do you

(01:58:34):
trust them against great teams? New Orleans? Would you trust
them at Green Bay? Do you trust them in Foxboro?
At Kansas City? Against Pittsburgh? Good? Never great? That's the
Vikings Falcons, Redskins Falcons still alive for the record. Does

(01:58:55):
anybody realize Matt Ryan is having a tremendous year. He
is averaging three hundred and thirty five yards a game
that is on pace to beat Peyton single season pass
yard record Peyton Manning. Don't count these guys out. In fact,
I made no mistake not having this in the blazon five.
Atlanta played with urgency. Washington was asleep. Atlanta's got good personnel.

(01:59:20):
Don't kid yourself. You don't want to get into a
shootout with Atlanta. They can outscore you. Texans Broncos Houston
no problems. First team to win six straight games after
starting Ohing three since the nineteen seventy Giants. They're defensive personnel.
We've always liked that up front to Shaun Watson, now,
it wasn't pretty, a little inartistic, but dude moves the chains.

(01:59:46):
Charger Seahawks. Three words, lack of trust. Okay, the Chargers
have won five straight. That game wasn't close. They couldn't
hit a field goal or a pat and they cut
their kicker today. I the Chargers lack of trust though.
Ram Saints two best teams. I mean, come on, didn't

(02:00:08):
that look like a Super Bowl should look? I mean,
as Joyce said, that's one of those rare games. I
thought no less of the losing team. Coaching personnel, by
the way that Saints run defense is the real deal.
Packers Patriots. Stop the comparisons. I mean, come on, eight
super Bowls to one fourth quarter game was tied. Who

(02:00:31):
looked better? Brady's bet? We never We never compared Marino
to Montana. Marino had a better arm. Stop comparing Rodgers
and Brady slam Duncan's over. Finally, Cowboys Tonight and Titans.
Cowboys must win. They've never made the playoffs. Starting three
and five, They're currently three and four. I want to
see Dak and Amari a lot tonight. We're done. We're

(02:00:56):
back tomorrow in La. Oh we have a minute left.
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(02:01:20):
it's funny. Every Tennessee game looks the same. Tennessee is
one of those teams. It just doesn't matter. They will
be guaranteed delt muddy the game up. They'll ugly it up.
You can't run on Tennessee. That's the one thing they do.
You cannot run the football on Tennessee. They crowd the box.
They're super physical upfront. So Dak is gonna have to

(02:01:43):
throw the ball downfield. He's got Cole Beasley. They don't
have tight ends. Amari Cooper Gallop the kid and Cole
Beasley and Amari Cooper should be and need to be
big tonight for Dallas. We'll see tomorrow,

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