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September 14, 2020 • 40 mins

Where Colin was right and Wrong

Panthers deserved to lose to the Raiders

Aaron Rodgers has enough weapons to compete


Guest: Trent Dilfer

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(00:26):
a Monday. These shows are so easy now. It's like
a layup drill for Joy and I. This is the
Herd in Los Angeles, wherever you may be and however
you may be listening Fox Sports Radio and right here
FS one. It was so fun yesterday to Sunday NFL kickoff.
It's the show I do in the Sundays and we've
been doing the same crowd Charissa Michael, Tony Schreeger, Dave
One stat we have an incredible production crew. It was

(00:48):
just so fun to be back now. It was different.
There's you know, we're all distance and the set is
like an aircraft carrier. I mean we're miles from each other,
but it was It felt so good to see Jimmy
in Awe and Terry and Tony and all and Chris
and all the crew was like, oh my god, this
is great. There was I actually, for the first time

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it just felt in six months, football felt a little normal. See,
in my life, we always tried to say we're getting
back to normal, but there's just America is not the
same today. Even today, when I drove to work the
traffic was bad. It was like, oh, finally I got
good traffic. I mean, I missed traffic so much. I
remember really early on, maybe like two weeks into the shutdown,

(01:30):
I was just walking around and there was it was empty.
It was like that scene in Vanilla Sky, like there's
no people in Los Angeles. That is a very hallowing
thing to see. You know. I was like me and
I miss I missed traffic time. Everyone was like, oh,
this traffic thing is no great. I'm like, no, please,
I can't wait until. I'd love to sit in traffic
right now, because that means things are starting to get

(01:51):
back to normal. It's a new normal. Yeah. I will
say though the fans. Maybe it's because we've been watching
so much NBA without fans. It didn't bother me yet.
I'm saying thing it was gonna be a real issue.
It doesn't bother me. Now, yes, but the Cowboys game
last night, SOULFI look great. Um, you know the crowd,
they juice the crowd up. Some of those crowd fake
operators are a little better than others. But by and large,

(02:14):
I thought it was pretty good. So we do this
every Monday. Colin right, Colin wrong, over the football season.
It's just my favorite segment of the week. Here we
go on Monday where Colin was right. Finally Pete Carroll
gave the offense to Russell Wilson and did you see
what happened? It was unbelievable. Tip of the cat Pete
Carroll finally first quarter nine for nine eighty six yards

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and two tds. This has been my knock on Pete
give let Russ Cook give him the offense. And they
finally did nine straight Seahawk receivers. And you know what
it felt like? It was. First of all, it was sensational,
but when you go on the road and you're aggressive,
there's something about the spirit and the vibe of Seattle.

(02:56):
They went on the road to win the game first series.
They came out hyper aggressive, more aggressive than Atlanta. They
finally gave the offense to Russell Wilson thirty one to
thirty five. He was sensational where Colin was raw blazing
five two and three. We had the Rams right over Dallas.
That was our pick of the week, and we also

(03:17):
thought the Ravens would blow out the Browns. But I'll
never bet Atlanta again. They break my heart. I don't
even know why. At this point. I'm stupid. I'm tired,
I'm over it. I am so disciplined in my life,
my diet, my exercise. I cannot stop betting Atlanta. I
knew I had something to yell at you about this.
Why do I saw you on Instagram? What do you
do it? I have no idea. I won't allow you

(03:38):
to do it again. Nope, I will be the gatekeeper
of that. I take on that responsibility. God, it's ridiculous,
all right. Where Colin was right. Bengals are Joe Burrow's
biggest obstacle. This is why I worry about him. They
lose a game, even though I thought late they outplayed
the Chargers, getting offensive pass interference in the end zone,

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dropped a couple of key passes. Then the kicker pulls
a hammy trying to kick a potential game winning field goal,
the offensive line. In fairness, they need another draft to
sew up the offensive line. But Joe Burrow was excellent.
This is why I said he's gonna win very few
games this year. It's not just on Joe Burrow. Young
quarterbacks need stronger support systems, especially when you ask him

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to start game one in a brutally talented division. That
is exactly what I thought I would see. Burrow played
fairly well and his organization just did what they do.
Where Colin was wrong. Adam Gas and the Jets were
the worst looking team. I don't care if you lose,
you can't look disorganized. The Jets first half was embarrassing.

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Does he get along with anybody? Does he have any allies?
Does he communicate with anybody? Sam Darnold wasn't good either,
But Donald's got a new offensive line. This is a mess.
This is just a hot mess. They you know, they
had nine penalties, Two or three of them are at
the inexact times. Nobody's getting better. That's what I worry about.
Tell me the young players for the Jets that are

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getting better, because I think I see in San Francisco
with Kyle Shanahan, young players getting better That is coaching.
It's not just drafting guys and drawn up plays. That's
not what they do in New England. They develop players.
I'm not an overreactor on coaches being fired, but I'm not.
I don't if you see that three or four more weeks,
Gays doesn't get past Thanksgiving. Where Colin was right. I

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fell in love with Kyler Murray second game in Arizona.
This kid is just a handful I can tend. He
throws the prettiest ball in the league. Secondly, like Andrew Luck,
they've just given him the playbook. They're not protecting him one.
Jared Goff is still being protected. Garoppolo's being protected. This
kid throw forty times against that defensive front. This is

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Andrew Luck. Kid, here's the playbook. Go make stuff happen.
I thought he was fantastic. DeAndre Hopkins had fourteen catches,
one hundred and fifty yards, his best game him as
a pro, and this is their first game together. This
kid is special. Coaches tell you what they think of
their quarterback. Kirk Cousins threw five balls in the first half.

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They have unloaded the playbook on this kid. To have
a guy. He also ran for ninety yards. I just
I know you guys don't watch Arizona games, watch him.
This kid is a potential superstar. Where Colin was wrong,
Cam and Balichick never felt right. To me, I didn't
get it. It's weird. Rigidity and personality don't mix. I

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thought it was really efficient yesterday. Now it was Miami,
but I thought, that's how you do it. You know,
Tom Brady, you short passes. That's how he controlled the
clock and then you let the defense win. Cam just
ran the ball and it was really efficient and really effective.
I just owe us. Thought this thing is weird. The
biggest personality in the league and the organization that's almost

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anti personality, but it works. Belichick complimented him yesterday, and
you know what, I thought Cam was accurate. I thought
he made really good decisions. They played to his straints.
It surprised me. I thought Miami had a shot to
win this game, and from the first series on, you're like, no,
Cam's got it under control. Where Colin was right, we

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said the teams with new head coaches and quarterbacks, we
said eight of nine are going to lose. Well, they're
two and six, and they'll be two and seven because
the Steelers will be the Giants tonight. Now, Washington pulled
off a stunner, but by and large we said there
with no preseason, the bad's gonna still be really bad.
And if you have new coaches and you have new quarterback,
this is almost too easy. You were going to struggle. Yeah,

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I mean Belichick one. I should have known better on that.
Now where Colin was wrong? Gardner Minshew, dude can play.
He can play. He's at you know what he is.
He's Baker Mayfield without the mistakes. They look like each other,
they play like each other. They got about the same armstrain.

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The kid is accurate. He's got a bad offensive line
in Jacksonville. They have a rookie undrafted wide receiver. He
throws an accurate football. He plays with a ton of confidence.
You know, in in twenty twenty, the NFL quarterbacks look different.
Sum are tall, summer small, sum run, summer pocket. We
just gotta I gotta come to terms with it. There
is no prototype anymore. Gardner. Minshew wears a bandana and

(08:26):
denim jeans and it looks like it used to be
in a Paul Newman movie. And you know what, man,
the dude can play he can play, and then he
got nothing around him. But confidence is really big in
this league for quarterbacks, and he looked big in big spots.
I was really impressed by him. Where Colin was right
Houston Rockets, I didn't buy in small ball. I don't

(08:48):
buy in James Harden as a championship player. Westbrook and
Harden had their moments, but I didn't buy into it.
They quit Listen. I've said with Harden, he's a score.
There's nothing wrong with that. I would vote him first bout.
He may be the best scorer in the league, but
a leader, an MVP elevates franchises. He's a scorer. But
how many times do I have to watch Harden or

(09:10):
one of his teams quit in the postseason. It's not
that they lost, They had no spirit. They didn't want
to play in the bubble anymore. They wanted out. They
just didn't want The coach wants out, the team wanted out.
A lot of why you're seeing the Lakers play so
well is the leadership of Lebron James. He's like Fellas,
two more weeks, three more week, you got you. This

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is where leadership is crucial. That's why Philadelphia unraveled. That's
why Miami was spose has been great. It's why Lebron's
playing well. Leadership, not talent, is now the key in
this bubble because we're talking about two months. People have
been away from their families and Houston looked to Harden
for leadership and it's just not who he is. Where
Colin was right. I don't get Matt Patrician Detroit. If

(09:53):
I had to listen to another guy, tell me keep
your eye on the lines this year. Yeah, I'm watching
what I can tolerate. They're nine twenty three and one
with Matt Patricia. They let go of their best player,
Darius Slay. I don't want to hear a guy dropped
a ball in the end zone. Mitch Trubisky looked like
the early leader for the MVP. Late fourth quarter, Mitch
was unbelievable. You either rise to the occasion in crucial

(10:19):
moments or you'll lose. And this team figures out ways
to lose. They're now one fifteen and one in fourth
quarter opportunities to mend win, meaning they're trailing, they trail
by a score, they have the ball, they have a possession.
They're one fifteen and one. I don't get Matt Patricia.
I don't buy the team buys into him. I don't
think he has a great eye for personnel. Matt Stafford's talented,

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but a lot of guys are talented in this league.
Now there's a Matt Stafford every Sunday. Everybody's talented at quarterback.
It feels like in the NFL. Colin right, Colin wrong,
Good stuff. Trent Dilfer's around the corner. Jimmy Johnson one
hour from now, one of the great football coaches of
all times. So we got a Sunday. What sticks, what doesn't,
What matters, what doesn't? Trent Dilfer, We'll go through all

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(11:24):
All sorts of stuff. What a great weekend, amazing, loved
it so much. I mean, I'm you and I watched
the NBA, but it's like I didn't see the Clippers.
Like now it's I'm just NFL. Like my brain just went, well, football,
have enough eyeballs. I had the four games up plus
red zone on my computer, plus my phone following on Twitter,

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and then I had a like double screen on my
computer so I could pull up another tab to watch
the fourth quarter at the Clippers game. I'm like, yeah,
this is like a lesson in focusing right now. Trend
delfor playing the NFL for eight decade and a half,
got a Pro Bowl and a Super Bowl. He's one
of my buddies. Now coaches fotball high school football in
Tennessee at Lipscomb Academy, made the playoffs in his first year,
and he's joining me now via the Cowiglobal satellite network. So, Okay,

(12:07):
I'm gonna sound like a dummy here, but I'm gonna
lay it out and you give me the answer. So
when I watch the Rams, they have four or five sets,
but they run a lot off it, and they give
you a lot of looks and a lot of misdirection.
And let's just say that we agree that they both
teams have nice weapons. Both teams have very nice weapons.
But when I watched the Cowboys last night, it doesn't

(12:29):
feel what you would say is multiple. I kind of
feel like it's a little generic at times, which feels
like it puts more in the quarterback to be special.
And I don't particularly think Dak is like, you know,
upper tier special. When I watched I just thought, this
is what I've grown accustomed to when I watched Dallas
in big spots, They're good, They're competent, But this is

(12:51):
what I see and I are they are? They? Are
they multiple enough? Are they creative and versa little enough?
As a coach? What do you see? I don't disagree. No,
I think that's a really good observation. I was talking
to our friend Ryan Rassila earlier this morning about Dak,
and I was talking about how he does everything well.

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So the danger when your quarterback does everything well is
to call system plays and forget that there's things he
does best and call quarterback plays. And I think what
I saw last night is, you know, Dak is great
at action. Dak is a threat as a runner that
is great with misdirection. When there's more of the Saturday

(13:33):
flare with jet motions, misdirections, movements, creative screens, and there
wasn't a lot of that. There was a lot of
just traditional drop back pass, which he's good at, not
knocking him, but he's not great at it yet. I
think one thing you see in the rams and that
when you're watching the two differences between the two offenses,
the rams are super creative with screens, movement, changing the

(13:58):
launch point. Very rarely do they just catch, drop back
and throw. They do what Jared does best as much
as possible. And I think as these coaching staffs and
Mike McCarthy's new to the Cowboys, he's got to learn
what Dak does best and maybe insert his voice into
that and say, listen, yeah, Dak does as well, and
we can drop back and throw the ball and third

(14:18):
down and there's times we're gonna drop back and throw it.
But what he does best is this, So let's make
sure we're emphasizing the stuff he does best. And again,
the movement, the action, the creativity that Saturday offense and
using him as a runner. I think it's foolish when
you don't use these quarterbacks as runners because it puts
such pressure on the defenses to give you define looks.

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You know, I thought Tom was better than all of
the narratives this morning. I thought, I thought he thought
through the ball very well. Deep, he had a miscommunication air.
But I said, God, when the schedule came out three
months ago, we all put this down as an l
I mean, no preseason, no tas. I thought Tommy looked
pretty good. I just think, I just think they're gonna

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look different against Carolina's defense. They're gonna look different in October.
I mean, I don't see any panic, right, no panic.
But listen, even with preseason, I always thought the first
four four games the regular seasons were a glorified preseason
because the limited OTA's, the limited opportunities to have the
off season. Now, now you put COVID on top of that,

(15:21):
they had no spring ball, they had no summer ball, now,
no training camp. And you're talking about Tom Brady, who
is a you know, brain surgeon quarterback, meeting Bruce arians
who has a different philosophy. It's gonna take time for
these two to gel. It's gonna take time for the
skill position guys to catch up to Tom and to

(15:41):
think the same thoughts as him. It's gonna take time
for the offensive line, to learn how Tom communicates the
line of scrimmage, to pick up exotics on different blitzes.
This thing. This might be tough sledding here for three
to five weeks, but I do think that give them
if they can just stay alive in it, if they
can be a five hundred football team till the halfway mark,

(16:03):
that I think you're really going to see Tom Brady's
fingerprint on this offense, and you're going to see a
little gasoline port on it at the back stretch of
the season. You know, it's interesting. I always wonder how
it plays. You can't you can fool me, you can't
fool players. And yesterday like Arizona's like Kyler go forty throws,

(16:23):
Kirk Cousins five throws at half. Like I was saying
this about Minnesota, I'm done hearing about You know, they'll
they'll have a four or five game winning streak. Mike
Zimmer is a good coach. But it's there's such a
message to me. When I watched Kyler Murray, that's so encouraging.
If I was a teammate kid, go for it. And
then I watched Kirk Cousins and the messaging to teammates

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is we're protecting him. Like, I just can't get past
that with Minnesota. I can't get past it with it.
You tell me what is the messaging in the locker
room when you're protecting a quarterback, not arming him, not
not encouraging him. Yeah. I think with Kirk in particular,
it's a delicate balance. Zimmer being a take of the

(17:08):
era of the ball guy, a defensive centric guy. He's
not ever gonna want to be a high volume thrower.
The problem is a Kirk Cousins plays as best as
a high volume thrower, So they have to find that
delicate balance. I think they just need to seek balance.
It doesn't have to be run first, doesn't have to
be passed first. It's hey, at the end of the game,

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if we're gonna have sixty five plays, let's have thirty
three passes and thirty two runs, or thirty three runs
and thirty two passes. If they seek balance, you're going
to get the most out of Kirk Cousins. He's another guy.
He is fantastic as an action passer. You put his
back to the line of scrimmage, put the ball in
the belly. He cut the field in half. He is.
He's a dynamic second level thrower. He's a guy who's

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going to get you a lot of big plays. They
have good skill position guys that is set up off
running the football. So if you're if you're kind of
an eighteen mid nineties football team with the Minnesota Vikings,
you're gonna be a successful football team where you're a
lot of dot back runs, a lot of opportunities, let
your offensive line go forward, and then let Kurt take

(18:12):
advantage of those opportunities and push the ball down the field.
But when you sequestre a guy and only let him
throw five times in the first half, that's a volume thrower.
You're not going to get the most out of him
come the second half. It's not like you can just
turn the key and say, Okay, Kurt, now go throw
it thirty times the second half because we're behind and
be you. These guys need rhythm. Troy Aikman was a
great example of this. Troy Aikman was a guy that

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would always need to throw the ball in the first
half more than run it. And they had Emmon Smith
and if you knows a lot of Troy's Super Bowl years,
they would throw it sixteen to twenty times in the
first half, get a lead, and then take the air
of the ball in the second half. Troy wasn't as great.
He was always great, but he wasn't as great if
it was six passes in the first half and now

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go through it twenty five and the second. He was
a guy that had to get going, had to be
a legend in his own mind, like he was running
in the show. And in the second half of the
ten point lead, Hey give it to Emmett, let him roll. Yeah.
By the way, Joe Burrow's debut, what'd you make of it? Good? Bad? Ugly?
Would you make him? I like his presence? What I
though about Joe Burrows? His presence, he doesn't flinch. Nothing's
gonna rattle him. He made enough plays where you saw

(19:17):
kind of his his splash value, you know, the draw play,
he saw his athleticism. He made some really nice throws.
Thought he made a great throw on the touchdown was
called back. It was a good call, But I was
a great throw to the pylon, high and away to
aj Green. But his poise, his presence, his toughness, those
are the things are gonna allow him to play for
ten fifteen years. There's a lot of talented guys. Joe's no,

(19:40):
not more overly talented than the next guy, but he
does have that intangible makeup that can make him special.
And that's what showed yesterday. You know, I'm too critical
of Baker Mayfield, but fourth coach, same mistakes is accurate.
I just don't I don't see it. I don't get it.
You keep giving him weapons and he keeps I get
the same guy right, Like, what what am I missing

(20:00):
on him? I just think he's a limited player. That's
what I see. I mean, I feel like, you know,
I said this. I think week one last year. I
said a week six last year, in Week nine last year,
in Week thirteen last year, dan Orlowski said this morning
on Get Up on ESPN. Everybody's starting to realize it.
He has an identity crisis as a quarterback. He doesn't
know who he is. He doesn't know what his DNA is.

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He tries to play the game like Russell Wilson and
Kyler Murray when he needs to play it like Drew
Brees Gardner. Minshew is a better quarterback because he plays
the position the way he knows he has to play it.
Baker has to play it the same way. He'll still
make a splash play here there. He is a good
enough athlete to extend plays every once in a while,

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but he's got to trust his feet. His feet and
his eyes have to be talking to each other. This
is a craft position. This is not a wing man
in the NBA where you dribble drive dunk okay. This
is a craftsmanship position. He plays with no craft. As
soon as he learns to be a craftsman, he'll be
a very, very good NFL quarterback. But he hasn't figured

(21:07):
it out yet, and his coaches haven't figured out because
if they had, they should be drilling this into him
every single second of every single day. You can't be
bouncing back there. You can't be trying to be an
athlete all the time. Play the position the way it
was designed to be played, played as a craftsman, or
you're not going to be successful by the way. Lamar
Jackson yesterday and I said, this is the difference between

(21:30):
winning playoff games and a Super bowls. Can you play
from behind? The difference between being great and a legend
is can you play from behind? Russell Wilson Mahomes have
shown that they trailed. They look like the same guy.
So that to me, now, yesterday it's hard to you know,
they were leading. I think Lamar plays very well downhill,
but I gotta tell you, when I watched him yesterday,

(21:51):
he looked better than even last year. Like, all I
know is that kid works in the offseason, Trent, because
you know there's a lot of critics of him. I'm
done with that. Like, he looked better yesterday than the
end of last year. Right, Yeah, in a very short
amount of time, Lamar's now put himself in that category.
We're really the only time we'll criticize him as if
he doesn't win a Super Bowl. I mean, he's in

(22:11):
rare air. It's gonna come down to the AFC Championship Game.
It's gonna come down to the Super Bowl. Like that's
how we're gonna judge Lamar Jackson. He's gonna light the
league on fire. It's gonna be him and Mahomes and
Aaron and Deshaun Watson and Kyler Murray lightning up every
single week being called, you know, being on these lists
of the best in the NFL. But really, he's already

(22:32):
put himself in that brutal position of you're gonna be
divined by championships. He's got a twelve year NFL head coach,
one of the best in the business. They've built an
incredible developmental program where they're just churning out guys you
haven't heard their names, and then they become stars. They've
they've done great in the draft. Their players fit like
talk about system fit guys like everybody just kind of

(22:55):
fits what they do. I mean, they're dialed into be
one of the best teams NFL. Now, really it comes
down and can you go win the big one? Can
you carry your team on your shoulders come February and
win the big Boy? I liked Russell Wilson early. I
think he has surpassed because yesterday felt like Pete finally said,
all right, we're just gonna throw the ball early. We're

(23:16):
just I'm gonna kind of let Russ cook. I'm gonna
let him go. I think Russell Wilson is better than
I thought he would be. He's incredible. I mean, he's
a Hall of Famer. He's again, we're doing lists, he's
in the top four. He's he makes the incredibly difficult
looks so routine, it's so easy. His command, his presence,

(23:43):
his juice, his critical moment plays. I can just go
on and on on. You can do all the analytics
and he checks every box there um, but there's just
something he's almost. There's a couple of guys that just
have kind of magic to him, and he's just got
that magic feel to him, like never feel as if
there's a play he can't make. They've surrounded him with

(24:05):
really complimentary pieces. I think you're gonna see this could
be a Seattle Seahawks offense that is unlike Anype Carroll's
ever coached. Yeah, and I don't think they're gonna be
air raid Seattle Seahawks, but there's games they need to
throw at forty five times. I think you're gonna see
Russell Wilson thrive in those moments as much as he
thrives in the game where he only throws at eighteen,

(24:26):
but you know sixteen of those are down the field,
so he really can do it all. I think the
easiest way to put to explain Russell Wilson's he does
super superhuman type things and makes him look really easy. Finally,
we know that Shanahan and Garoppolo have trust issues. You
can see it with some of the play calling. We
know Andy Reid and Mahomes don't and you know you

(24:48):
can kind of tell Zimmer and Kirk Cousins there's a
protection thing going on. But I was talking to a
friend last night, I want to circle back to the
Rams Cowboys, and we were talking about McVay and we
were talking about Jerry Goff, and I said, I still
feel like mcvay's just kind of got the bumper cars
on with Jared Goff, and my friend argued, He's like, no,

(25:10):
I mean he gets into these shootouts. Do you think
McVay trusts Goff. I think he trusts them with seventy
five percent of what they're trying to do, and that's
a big number. They want to be a run, run,
action screen team. They don't want to be a drop
back pass team. Jared is very, very good at those

(25:32):
elements where they got into trouble last years when they
became a five six man protection drop back team. People
say offensive linement allow. That's the quarterback management. The quarterback
has to know how to manage those games. I don't
think that's there yet, but I don't think it should
be either. I don't think Tom Brady. Belichick trusted Tom

(25:52):
Brady with the true drop back game probably five six
years into his career. It is a much harder way
of playing football. You have, you have protections, you have
to manage. You get way more complex schemes in the
back end, pass rushers, you know, kind of get after
a little bit more in those situations. It's a harder
way to play. I think most good play callers right

(26:16):
now in the NFL are leaning more on the run, run, action,
screen movement stuff on early downs and minimizing how much
true drop back. No bells and whistles. It goes with
it football, you play. Jared, like many young quarterbacks, needs
to grow in the drop back game. But he is very,
very good in the action game. Trent Bill for great

(26:38):
seeing you. He's got the Viking beard going on right there.
He looks a very manly, very alpha am I not
a little more scruffy. It's great seeing you, buddy. Awesome, buddy,
talk to you next week. Yeah. I do think what
we're seeing in his Trent talks about that. I think
the quarterback play now is giving us so many different looks.
Gardner Minshew and is different than Gardner looks a little Baker,

(27:00):
Josh Allen's a little like early Big Band. Kyler's a
little like Russell Wilson. But I mean it just it
wasn't this way even fifteen years ago. You kind of
knew what a quarterback was, right, is it? Tall can he?
I think football is so much better to watch now
if there's so many different ways to run your offense
that you know, a lot of a lot of the
country because Brady got a lot of the eyeballs yesterday

(27:23):
in the afternoon, not a lot of the country saw
Garoppolo against Kyler Murray. It was interesting because I'm not
you know, Shanahan and Garoppolo. They're sleeping in separate bedrooms
right now, like that relationship is there's a little tension.
Kyler and Cliff, they're having so much fun. You can
just Arizona is just like, here's the playbook. Take it over,

(27:45):
Shannon and Garoppolo is going to be. It's like a
way more functional. Gaze Darnold. You can sense there's a
little tension there, but you can see Shanahan didn't. Shanahan
after the game was critical of garoppolole like it's just
not right yet, not quite there yet. Joy with the news. No, no,
this is the herd line news. Well, Cam Newton looked

(28:09):
good in his Patriots Stager did two hundred and thirty
total yards and two rushing touchdowns. He did get into
a little bit of a confrontation with Dolphins. The Dolphins players,
I didn't understand what was that they grabbed his next
so he was playing with the chain on. He was okay,
and so following the twenty one eleven win, he spoke
about how some Dolphins players tried to take the chain

(28:30):
off on his neck. They was reaching from the chain um,
and I think that that kind of got up front
of my scale. But yeah, threw it all, man. Listen,
I do not want the I don't want nothing to
be taken away from a great team game that we
did have. You know, I was just teasing with coaches
Lennon Loveley that College Park almost came out me. So
you know, yeah, threw it out man. It was just

(28:51):
all funny, by the way. So after the game I
saw him being like very emotional. I was like, I
don't know if somebody said something thing to him. I
didn't see this little mix up until later on social media,
so I didn't know what happened that had gotten Cam
so emotional and like upset. But listen, you go, you

(29:12):
have to do something, like if someone grabs you like that,
you've got to react. And this is just you're not
just gonna walk away from a situation like that. I
don't blame Cam at all. No, no, some if you
watch this, watch this video right here, it's not here
what here's a little it's a little sho it's this
one right here here. Yeah, no, no, no no, the next one. Yes, yeah.
When he grabbed a chain, okay, that's violent. If you're
grabbing me and pulling me to you, you have a

(29:34):
you have a right to defend yourself. He also broke
a chain, so then you gotta do something at that point.
I don't a lot of guys, baseball players do. Like
some guys just like their stuff. Guys play with Julia
all the time. This is not like I know, people
were like, oh, why is he plays the chain on? Like,
first of all, this is after the game. I think
baseball guy, he lasted the entire game. Base Players play
with chains all the time. But so to football. The
nose rings, earrings, all kinds of stuff. But the one

(29:57):
thing that I took away from that whole situation, and
really the whole game yesterday, is that the Patriots are
really letting Cam be Cam. Yes, they are, like Cam
is the exact same guy that he was in Carolina.
The hats, the fashion, the chain, the excitement on the field,
the celebrations, and also his style of play. Like the
Patriots have have changed the way that they play offense

(30:21):
to cater to Cam. And I think that's a testament
to Bill Belichi that great coaches are not rigid at
like they find ways to adapt to the way the
way the game's played they have. I think they're more
rigid than they should be. I would argue that Belichick
is not doing what a lot of coaches do because
a lot of legends. I can go to college and
prol a lot of legends. This is my I mean,

(30:43):
he's he's adapting. Yeah, Belichick's like, you know, I also
think it sends them. I think two people are sending
messages here. Cam is sending a message that, oh, you
don't think I can be in a system of a
great code, right and Belichick's like, you can have a
personality here, It's okay. I think they both need each
other and a messaging for both they both need the

(31:03):
Cam's got to be like, Cam can you be coached?
Oh you can? And Belichick could you lighten up? Oh
you can. When people need each other, it generally works.
It's absolutely working. I mean you saw how you mentioned
I talked to coach and said, you know that College
Park almost came out of me, Like, that's not you
would expect Bill Belchick to be angry that that happened,
but it's it's it's totally working again. I don't want

(31:25):
to be overreact to week one. It was my Dolphins.
Let's not git crazy. But you can't be anything but
happy with everything. Fitzpatrick, it was a very classic Fitzpatrick.
Milbell I too might get up earlier than he thought so.
Joe Burrow also had a strong NFL debut for the
Bengals two hundred and thirty nine total yards in a
rushing touchdown, but he was most impressive on the final

(31:46):
drive of the game, three minutes remaining no timeouts, led
the Bengals down the field to set up a field
goal that would have tied the game, and said it's overtime,
but kicker Randy Bullock cramped up during the attempt and
it was really, yeah, that's how sixty. That's how the
Chargers lose. It is it was very Chargers like win,
Very Bengals like lost. You get there to the ends.

(32:09):
Can't ask them more from your rookie quarterback in his debut. No,
OTA's no preseason I mean, that's that's the drive. That's
what you want to see that he has that in him.
I thought the Chargers are not a bad team. No God, No,
the defensive front the Chargers, like I saw from their
offense yesterday. No, you know what two and Justin Herbert.
You know it's somebody else said this yesterday. It's a

(32:30):
good point. Two and Justin Herbert were multiple year starters
in big TV games. They're not undrafted guys that played
it like you know, Panera Bread State. It may be
just time here in a couple of weeks, let two ago,
let Herbert go. Burrows showed and Burrows got less talent
around him than I think TWA and Herbert would if

(32:52):
the Chargers offense doesn't have more life, it's just Justin
Herbert was a starter for three years, played in Rose Bowls,
played against Auburn. He's he's been on National TV. He's
not going to get nervous. The game's not too fast
for him. Yeah. I think a couple more weeks like
that for the Dolphins and Charters and you got to
go have to do it again. Don't know to react
to week one, but that was it was not great
from either of those offenses. Not that you should expect

(33:14):
much from the Dolphins offense at this point, but that
wasn't You can't do that. Finally, the Rockets season ended
yesterday when the Lakers, or sorry Saturday, when the Lakers
out to them in the Western Conference semifinals, and head
coach Mike Cantoni informed the organization he will not be
returning to the team next season. I love a coach
finally telling a team I'm over you. I love a

(33:34):
coach finally doing that. Well, this was sort of mutual.
I mean, this was his he was coaching on his
final year. Maybe they gave him. Maybe they allowed him
to do that so we could give nor job. Probably,
I mean it was this was like he was coaching
for either this job, but could they either have success
this year? They were going to go separate ways. He
did lead Houston to the playoffs in each of his
four seasons there, including one trip to the Western Conference Finals,

(33:57):
and the Rockets also had the highest winning percentage in
the West of the last four years. He is considered
a candidate for the seventy sixers job. I don't know.
I think I think the Rockets are a very fun
regular season team. Yeah, great, and that's how about how
about tip of the cap to Denver instead of belly

(34:18):
aching about the Clippers, how about a tip of the
cap to Miami and Denver as great bubble stories with
a bunch of kids who were in the conference finals. Sometimes,
you know, let's not just say Milwaukee stinks. Miami played great.
The Clippers don't stink. Denver's plan there are so off
like some of us in the NBA. That bubble is psychology.
It looks like Houston Joy melted down, but they always

(34:42):
melt down. So that's kind of my issue with it. Yes,
I think the bubble has a lot of psychological challenges
that people are disregarding. It's hard to be away from
your family, It's hard to be in a bubble for
months at a time with really no escape other than
you know, there's only how many times you can go
fishing and golfing before it's like, hey, you know, I'd
like to go sleep in my own bed. This Houston
team vastly underachieved again and some major changes out to

(35:07):
be made. Good stuff. Joy with the news. Well that's
the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herdline News.
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So this drove me. This was the play yesterday that

(35:50):
drove me crazy. And it was actually a two very
average teams but wildly entertaining. Raiders played Carolina and so
Carolina gets the ball back and a trail and Bridgewater
played well, and you know, it was just it was
a really fun NFL game. We've said this about the NFL.
Teams don't have to be great for the game to
be great, and the game was really fun. If you're
a Raider fan. They've got a bunch of good offensive weapons.

(36:12):
Defense is not very good and Carolina the defense got confused.
It's not very good, it's young, but their offense is
pretty good. So my theory on football is real simple.
When you get into key moments in a football game,
just give it to your best players. That's always been
my rule. They got you here, they got you here.

(36:33):
So now we know with Carolina they're best football players.
Christian McCaffrey, they've got good receivers, and I think Teddy
Bridgewater is more than capable. And they get into this
situation where they get into a fourth and like, you know,
a foot and a half or whatever, fourth and half
a yard or whatever, and instead of McCaffrey, who just
makes guys miss. I mean, McCaffrey never feels like, he

(36:53):
never lose his yardage, he just makes guys miss. He's
one of the great players, top five player, top ten player.
In the end, so Matt rules the rookie coach and
they're gonna steal a game they were supposed to lose.
And the Raiders should win this because they're in year
three with Gruden and this should be the game. And
this is the play they run. This nonsense. It is
a fullback dive. The hell is that you jam up

(37:18):
in them? You gave the Raiders who are not very
good on the outside. They're not very good. So get
the ball, do something. That's it a quick you got it?
Just let Teddy Bridgewater do a quarterback dive. He's better.
You have Christian McCaffrey. Do you need to be reintroduced
to the best player in your franchise? What are you doing? Yeah?

(37:42):
I lost some money on it, But beyond that, God
like it. He's an MVP. He it's this is not
a great defense. You do not give it to a fullback?
How many? I mean? I just I watched that game
and I'm like, if I'm a player and that play
comes in, that's where I defend like a quarterback roll

(38:03):
in his eyes, going, I got the best running back
in the league back here. It's the most predictable thing.
Just let's just shrink our offense down to that ug
so you deserve to lose. Congrats to the Raiders. Here's
my second thing. I always hear this. It is a

(38:23):
quarterbacks job to elevate the pieces you have. You're not
always going to get the best offensive coach, You're not
always going to get a great offensive line. I keep
hearing this. I've watched Russ Wilson, Russell Wilson and Seattle
with battle lines and rookie receivers and undrafted tight ends
and seventh round running backs. God, he just elevate. They're

(38:44):
all good. If I got to hear that Aaron Rodgers
doesn't have enough weapons again, I don't want to hear it.
I watched them yesterday. You're good enough to drop forty
four in the Vikings. Your weapons are fine. Davante Adams
is a top three receiver in the NFL. He's a beast.
You can't come over him. Davante Adams is a superstar
wide receiver. You have a top four offensive line according

(39:06):
to Pro Football Focus. Aaron Jones is a top five
or six running back. You have multiple receivers who can play.
Valdes Scantling is one of the fastest guys in the league.
He drops them occasionally, but he's super fast. Alan Lazard
is more than good enough as a number three wide receiver.
If in the NFL, if you have a top five
old line, a superstar receiver, a star back, that's enough.

(39:33):
Now they do a lot eleven personnel, they do one
tight end. They do not throw to the tight end much.
They didn't throw to Jimmy Graham much. So that's just
their offense. Aaron doesn't throw the tight end a lot.
That's just how Aaron is. But like, if you can
drop forty four, Like I'm overhearing about how Green Bay
didn't have enough weapons, you start looking at where Russell

(39:55):
Wilson's weapons come from. They're not good. They're undrafted tight ends.
They're gadget guys. In college. Doug Baldwin was undraft, he
came Metcalf, dropped in the draft. He's great with Russell.
It's a quarterbacks job to elevate the weapons occasionally in
your career. I mean, Tom Brady played twenty years in
New England. He had two years where he had everything.
He had Welker, he had a slot guy, they had

(40:17):
Randy Moss, they had Dante Stalworth, and then he started
getting good tight ends grown, and Hernandez tom in twenty
years had about a two or three year window where
he really had everything. Protection, a deep threat, a slot guy,
solid backs. That's not the way it works. Like I
got news for you. Patrick Mahomes in twenty years is
gonna have years without a functional tight end and his

(40:38):
top two receivers are hurt. It's your job as a quarterback.
I don't want to hear a greem. It in't the weapons.
They're not Kansas City. They're good enough. You give me
a top five owl on a star receiver, star back.
Now it's up to me to elevate the eyes who
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