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January 23, 2023 47 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and the guys try to make sense of the final play by the Cowboys vs the 49ers and Dak shows why Dallas was hesitant to give him his contract. Joe Burro outplayed Josh Allen in fashion and set himself up to beat Mahomes for the 4th time in his career. Plus, a preview of the Conference Championships and a debate over whether or not they should be played at neutral sites.

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dot com the way tire buying should be. Yeah, yeah,
it's back. Yeah, just gosh, that was pretty cool though. Yeah,
we got it. We'll throw back. We got it the
good old days. Man. That was like circa what October,
I don't know, but it was pretty cool. Yeah, it's
pretty tries to be too sticky. He lets things go

(01:08):
for too long. But if it's a good thing, it
doesn't need to end, which is why that's not true.
Things must come to an end. Okay, so you're saying
that Dallas Cowboys are good this year until they weren't. Uh.
So we are off and running and let's just want
to go, just go and reverse, just going reverse. Uh.

(01:31):
Not the prettiest game in the world, but the forty
Niners get it done, and it just feels like it's
the same old issues and the same old problems for
the Dallas Cowboys. San Francisco is on their way to
an NFC title game at Philadelphia next week, and the
Dallas Cowboys are going home courtesy of those forty Niners
yet again, just like last year, except this time it

(01:54):
was on the road, so at least it's a little
bit more justifiable. Yeah, but it still ended with an
awful end of game play. It's like Dallas those out
of endgames and then like made people scratch their head
and go, what the hell was that? Okay, what was
the idea behind it? I know it didn't work, but
what was the idea? You want me to try? So

(02:16):
let's just start off at the beginning. Zekel hit snapping
the football, which they make him ineligible, right, he declares
himself ineligible because it doesn't matter. He's not catching a
forward pass. So what you're trying to do is put
him in a position where he's snapping the football back
and he's somewhere in the middle of the field, so
then he can be back a part of the pitch around. Okay,

(02:40):
the next thing is you have the offensive lineman who
are divided up and split on each outside end of
the field. They're also flanked by a wide receiver. Those
wide receivers are there for most likely Daniel Jones, to
throw to one of either side, and then also remained
there for either wide receiver to throw back across the
field to either side. So that's I'm sure the intent

(03:04):
of the side of the play. But you know, if
if you're not gonna have any offensive lineman like downwards
Zeke was by the football, you might as well take
out the offensive lineman two and just put it all
skill players. Like, there's nothing that that forces you to
put any offensive lineman in. It's all it's more about
alignment at that point. So I thought the play design

(03:26):
was so stupid for what they were trying to accomplish,
but that they didn't even put in all the personnel
they probably needed to on the field, But that was
the intent. I thought they were putting them out there
to almost like create a you're already out there screen.
Yeah initially, but then but then at some point those
guys are going to be part of the process. Like

(03:47):
they're not blocking for sixty yards down the field. No, No,
So like look at it this way, right you you
snapped the ball that throws the ball is a screen,
and then now it's it's the blocker is supposed to
hit that first dude, is what I was thinking, Like,
he's got to get the first guy, and then the
whole process of the latter ing or throwing it backwards

(04:09):
starts and there getting started. The defense isn't putting any
d lineman out there, so you don't need to put
any offensive lineman out there. You could just put out
all wide receivers and tight ends and running backs and
let them all pitch it around back and forth and
let them go see if they can make a play.
I mean to try to to salvage any type of
reasoning behind them doing it. He needed to block, like

(04:30):
you're a blocker. You're out there to block block the
first guy. It didn't matter because the guy. So here's
the thing. So Zach snaps it back. Dad gets the
football the throat to a slot receiver. The slod receiver
catches it, pitches it. The problem is San Francisco blows
up Zeke. He's no longer a part of the play.

(04:51):
The receiver gets blown up, like there was no like
at that point. If you're an offensive lineman, you can't
block the first guy because the first pass is a
downfield pass, so you can't be an elisible down the field.
So that's that's the other issue with that. But it
was designed. Let's just say after having a wonderful game

(05:14):
plan on the offensive side of the ball the week before,
they just did not have a great offensive game plan
going up against against this team, and that game was
there for the taking. Like, yeah, deck didn't play well.
In the bottom line, that did not play well. There's
some poor throws and the first interception, I thought Michael

(05:37):
Gallup kind of sold him out, like he needs to
keep coming back down his stem and it's probably incomplete pass.
But I was gonna ask you, though, LeVar, I thought
that was more of a defensive game. It was looked
at it it was the it was the opposite. It
was more of a defensive game. And I did not
mind that game the way it played out. I didn't.
I thought it was too very competitive teams playing against

(05:59):
each other, and you knew what side of the ball
was going to carry you, and it was going to
be the defensive side for both teams. Brock Purdy did
what Dac didn't do, which was in a game where
you don't lose the game, like you can play to
win the game, but you don't. Sometimes you just gotta

(06:20):
know that this is just one of those games where
I just can't play and and and give give away
the game in terms of us losing. And brock Purdy
didn't turn the ball over. He you know what, he
didn't have big major play opportunities all game where you
know he was gonna throw four touchdowns or anything like that.

(06:41):
He took what the defense gave him. He made some
really good throws at times too, to be honest, but
I I just thought that that was one of those
games where dang like the one you're talking about with Gallup,
I just thought the cornerback just made a hell of
a play. I mean, he he he was able to
stop at the top of the route. He came back stop. Yeah,
that's the promise. He ended up running the rest of

(07:02):
the come back. He came back. Yeah, he came back.
And you can't do that. I mean, and you want
to talk about textbook high pointing the ball, He high
pointed the hell out of that ball. I just I
thought I thought for two seconds there that it was like, Wow, Dallas,
after all of this, like not having too much offense,
could actually still get the game, you know, And this

(07:26):
was like that that signature moment for Dak Like you
didn't have the greatest of game, you turned the ball over, okay,
but here it is like win the game and and
it just wasn't It wasn't there. But I thought that
was like low key to coaching points that Dalton Schultz
didn't execute very well. The first being you have to

(07:47):
your players have to know. Right when I saw him
catch the football and run towards the sideline and get
hit and it went laterally out of bounds or maybe
even a little backwards, I was like, Oh, they're gonna
run the clock here, Like that's just that cannot be
something that you don't do in those moments. And for
people out there who don't know the rule, just because
you go out of bounds as a ball career doesn't

(08:08):
mean the clock stops. If you're not trying to move
forward out of bounds and you go backwards or loudly
when your contact, the clock keeps running. It's a good
job on the officials part. And then the next play
the catch, you know to not make sure and secure
that he gets two ft and then gets you know,
makes the catch before he gets out of bounds. Like

(08:29):
two big time mistakes, and I'm not sure it matters
for the second one that just probably gets you to
Hail Mary, which the odds are slim there anyway, but
at least you have a shot. But those two plays
by Dalton Schultz kind of liminated any chance of the
season ending for Dallas any different than it did last year,
with again people going what the hell was that final play?

(08:51):
It is gonna be a pretty long off season for
Dak Prescott. After you say it's super Bowl or bus
in your pregame interview, like it's bus, it was bust,
and it was bust because of you, not like because
of your your offense, That defense played their hard out. Man,
those guys kept them in the game the entire time.

(09:11):
And you could say the same exact thing for the
forty niners. They kept them in the game the entire time.
Only differences is that they delivered a really really like
what one or two drives Like there were like one
or two drives where you're like, man, that's you know,
you don't think that that's going to be the difference
maker because you don't think that it's going to be
a nineteen to twelve game. Like nineteen to twelve. That

(09:32):
is such an ugly score. It's an ugly score. But
you know, I'm a defensive guy. I love defense. And
if you're a person that respects is and and admires defense,
you know, these these guys, I mean Ryan's you know Quinn,
they did an excellent job. I mean you saw you
saw it on display, like literally the preparation they were.

(09:55):
They were both ready. They were both ready for this game.
So just unfortunate and if we I guess Dak Prescott
in the Dallas fans that it didn't go their way,
can we can we kind of lean into that for
a second. I mean, you guys are saying it's gonna
be a long offseason for Dak, And I'll go as
far as saying this for for what Doc is being
paid now, I mean, it's got to the point where

(10:19):
I'm not I'm not saying that Dak's that necessarily the
thing holding them back. But when I look at the
game between Josh Allen and Joe Burrow, when you look
at Kansas City this weekend, when you look at Jacksonville,
that's not those guys like He's not that caliber of
quarterback compared to those guys. I mean maybe I would say,

(10:40):
even right now, what Jalen Hurts is as a quarterback
might even be better. Well, they were impressive, Well then
that was more of their offensive line. We can we
can talk about it, but I'm I'm stating more of
I think, if you're Dallas, you took forever to commit
to Dak Prescott and he finally puts you in a
position where it to pay m Now you've paid him,

(11:02):
and maybe you were hesitant for a reason because you
knew he's not a top let's say eight quarterback. And
I think when we look at the league, if we're
all being honest for ourselves, if you're not a top
eight quarterback, You're probably not giving your team a chance
to win a Super Bowl. Like when you hit a
Joe Burrow, when you go up against the Patrick Mahomes,
when you go up against the Josh All, when you
go up against Dare I say, Trevor Lawrence in the future,

(11:24):
with the way he looks, you know, when you go
up against some of these younger quarterbacks who are emerging,
maybe it's it's hurts now as he's venturing into that. Man,
I just I don't think your team has a shot.
Pat Mahomes will one ft, yeah, does does Dad have
another level? Or is this it? No? Yeah? So so
the more that these young quarterbacks coming to the league
and god forbid, Bryce Young's a stud or c. J.

(11:45):
Stroud as a stud, he just keeps falling down the
list like every every crop of quarterbacks that comes in,
and it's if this is just what he is, then
I don't think this is what Dallas signed up for.
I think they had they had dreams of, you know,
we're gonna get over the hump. I mean, they still
haven't been to a conference title game since ninety six.

(12:06):
I mean, but he did deliver a playoff. Wint what
they said, how many years twenty years road? When I
went on the road when they've won before, how many
how many years was four road thirty? Yeah, something like that, Yeah,
a couple of years ago. The way. That just goes
to show how bad the Bucks for this year. So

(12:29):
think like, I don't see why people didn't know that
after that gang got going, you knew that the Buck stank.
It was it was the Tom Brady effect. It was like, Oh,
that's Tom. It's Tom Brady is in the playoffs. They're
gonna do it. They's gonna change everything. Tom Newday stank.
He threw the game away. Let me get you on interception. Okay,

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way tire buying should be. So, is it just fair
to say the Cincinnati Bengals are better than the Buffalo
Bills and Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen? Just
simply put, that's it. He's different. He's different because I mean,

(14:33):
here's what I'll say about like the comparison between two,
because you know, like we we do work or you know,
calls with different people and stuff. People pick pick one,
Joe Josh you gotta pick one. I'm like, dude, they're
so different, like they really are. Alan has these extraordinary skills,
this rocket arm and this ability to run around and

(14:54):
be physical and created in the stuff down field. You know,
Burrow is more to me like your prototypical quarterback. He's
accurate as all get out, He's got a strong enough arm,
he's an incredible decision maker. He's athletic enough to be
able to hurt you with his legs. But you know,
his best skill set is how he navigates the pocket

(15:16):
to throw. I mean, honestly, like him and Jamaar Chase.
I think I said this last year, like they remind
me of what I grew up watching, which was Joe
Montana and Jerry Rice. Like Jamaar Chase makes everything look easy,
and that's like, so my first time I ever played
in tackle football third grade. I love Jerry Rice. I
was I want to be a receiver. IM gonna be

(15:36):
just like Jerry Rice. I'm gonna catch everything. Wasn't fast,
but I'm gonna catch everything. And I remember watching him
always thinking he makes everything looks so easy, and Jamaar
Chase is the exact same way. And then the more
I started getting into quarterback. The next year I started
watching Joe Montana. I'm like, man, Joe's so cool out there.
He's so calm, he's so poised, you know, he's so accurate,

(15:57):
and it doesn't seem like he has to try hard
to ever make a throw or make a play. And
that's how Joe Burrow is. Man Like. They just they
have this this chemistry, this thing. They're like the two
point oh version or the new version. I think of
what Montana and Rice were is what Burrow and Chase
people are doing. The comp game with Tom Brady and

(16:19):
Burrow Burrow reminds me of Montana. You've seen there echoing here. Well, no,
it did seem like it was an echo, like like
a two second two second delay. But as far as
the comp goes, I saw people with them that Tom
Brady did. Joe Burrow, I thought he reminded me. Can
you believe he reminds me of Joe montanae Montana or not?

(16:44):
For the first two minutes, it's almost like, reminds me
of Joe Montana and Jerry Rice. When you saw that
game yesterday, When you watch that game yesterday, didn't make
you think about Joe Montana, you know, and we're gonna
keep going down this road. I'll just say it reminds
me of Steve Young. I mean, i'll so because when

(17:07):
I'm watching Burrow reminds me of Steve Bono. So, but
when you watch the game yesterday, Burrow never seemed rattled,
never seemed bothered. But Josh Allen did. Josh Allen looked
like he's, yeah, there is that after the game. I
just I can't wait from that game going yeah, I'm

(17:27):
I'm good. I'll take Burrow. And I don't know that
other than Patrick Mahomes, I don't know that there's maybe
another quarterback in the league. I take over Joe Burrow
right now. He's fantastic. And when they when they asked
him the question, you know, how long is this championship
window going for? And Burrow said for as long as
I'm playing. Yeah, it's so, he's awesome. How good as

(17:50):
long as I'm here are windows open? And by the way,
for business. Good for Zach Taylor as well too, because
he was Delta bag of crap the first couple of
years that he was there, and now he's got himself
a quarterback and he's got himself a team that's going
to be contender for the next however many years Joe
Burrows playing but Zack Taylor afterwards was asked about the
refunded tickets and all the other things, the fifty thousand

(18:12):
quote unquote tickets that were sold for the potential a
f C title game in Atlanta, And here was the
back and forth at the Bengals head coach. We kind
of joke about the refunds, but was that at all
extra motivation just and seeing the release about the sold
for the neutral site for the neutral site, I mean, yeah,
we we just we had our mindset to go point

(18:33):
in Kansas City and and uh, it is. It is
tough because there they have to formulate the plans for
coin tosses, and they got to formulate the plans for
neutral site games. And we just keep screwed it up
for everybody. And I hate that for for people that
have to endure all those logistical issues and then we
just keep screwed it up. So I'm sorry. Yeah, Coach

(18:56):
trap was Za was played the first part played first
part I interview again, heart is in the trap unds?
Trap at all extra motivation? I mean, yo, what in

(19:21):
this house for motivations, zack up in there, regulate why
they up in the trap Like, Hey, don't y'all come
up in that house talking about no tickets, everybody jacking
this s up. Let me tell you how it's gonna
work right here in the jungle. Y'all you in the
trap house to jump the Bengals trap house. Let me

(19:43):
ask you guys a question. Who they like a moll?
After kickoff? After kickoff? Was there any point during that
game that you felt like Buffalo was going to win
that game? Because I didn't the first series was sitting
that hold on for a second, though, Can we give

(20:05):
their old line all the credit in the world. You
you're playing with three backups, I mean Jackson Carmen, who shoot,
maybe better off as a tackle now the way he's
been playing. But Jackson Carmen, you know, coming in playing
left tackle for Jonah Williams. You know you look at
identity the way those I mean they stepped up and

(20:26):
at times they like there was a reason why they
weren't starting. I just put it that way, like at
times they had displayed like why they were backups, but
when their team needed them the most man against a
good defensive front. I know didn't have Von Miller, and
he's no doubt a difference maker, but that's still one
of the better defensive fronts. Man. They were the more

(20:46):
physical team. They ran the ball down their throats, mixing
out of what over a hundred yards himself just rushing.
I mean they when they wanted to run, they ran
like that. That was an impressive, impressive performance. Like, I
did not think we were gonna come away for that
game talking about the offensive line of the Bengals, but
because it was such a question mark and people thought

(21:06):
it was gonna be a weak point, it was crazy
to me to see how well they allowed Cincinnati to
operate throughout the entire course of that game. So credit
to those guys, man, Credit to the big boys up front.
That's a fine team. The Buffalo Bills. That's a fine team.
That's not like the and and Listen, I don't want
to seem like I'm paddling on, but I'm just like,

(21:28):
this is realistic. Right. You have one of the more
impressive showings in the first round of the playoffs as
the Dallas Cowboys, But it wasn't against a fine team, right,
This is a team that is is trying to find
its way all over again. This This Buffalo Bills team
was a fine team in their home stadium, in their

(21:50):
home stadium. That that's his quality of win. That that's
almost one of those wins that you say, you know what,
They've taken another step forward. They taking another that was
a definitive step forward. In terms of if this Bengals
team turns into a perennial super Bowl team, I think
they're going to the super Bowl. I'm not going not

(22:11):
with with with Pat Mahomes dealing with an ankle, a
sore ankle going into this this game, I just don't
know that they if you don't have all all in,
all hands on deck, healthy roster in in Kansas City,
I don't know that they beat this team. I just

(22:33):
I think the two best teams going into this this
this championship weekend, and and I find it to be
debatable on the NFC side, I don't know that. I
find it so much more debatable outside of Patrick Mahomes
and Travis Kelsey. I don't know if they have enough too.
I can't believe I'm saying I don't know if Kansas

(22:55):
City has enough to deal with Cincinnati not with Mahomes less,
and there's no no way in hell Patrick Mahomes anywhere
close to being a percent next week. I mean, that
was a gritty, gutsy performance that he put in to
to get them through that game. And give shots out
to Henny for coming in a relief duty and doing
what he did. But I'm just saying, man, I don't

(23:17):
know if Patrick Mahomes. Keep in mind now, this is
the same group that couldn't beat them last year, never
beat them, right Joe Burrow Burrow is about to try
to go four and okaus, I don't know that they
can beat them. I don't know that they can beat
them this time. And that's that's man. I can tell
you one thing. I think the Bengals will do a

(23:38):
better job up against Kansas City. Probably covered Travis Kelsey.
I mean, he would think that at some point people
are going to cover them. Well not at some point,
like most teams pretty much focusing on him and they're like,
let's makes someone else beat us, But clearly that wasn't Jacksonville's.
They still can't. But they still can't cover him. I
don't understand he has been people have been able to

(24:02):
shut him down this year. It's just that was ridiculous.
I've never seen a dude, what do you have four
teen receptions? Uh? In fact checking that, let's look into
that here. I think I think that was about the number.
But there's been other games this year where he's been
maybe targeted that many times, but he hasn't had that
many catch I mean, hell, the Raiders did a better
job and we k eighteen like they did a better

(24:25):
job kind of shut him down, and there's a number.
I don't know. I don't know he's Has he ever
had fourteen receptions in the game. I don't think so
targeting seventeen times, have fourteen grabs n yards coupling, Yeah,
that's not like, oh he's just gonna get open, dude.
That's like you just blatantly have an awful game plan
or you can't figure out how to double him every

(24:46):
damn passing play. It's not that hard. He's going to
the center of the field. I don't care if he
jerked you to the outside or not, king jerky. I
just think that I don't understand how you're wasted to
the inside of him. I mean, he looked like he
was having like convulsions on the one route that he read,
he stopped. He started like shaking like they needed to

(25:08):
co get him, and then he breaks to the inside.
They throw the ball like like I'm looking through it now.
I don't know that he's ever had fourteen receptions in
the game. Yeah, that's a lot of that's a lot
of catches. That's a lot that's I'm seeing thirteen that's
the most he's he's had in his corr up to

(25:29):
that point. Yeah. I mean, we can sit here and
ball wash him all we want, but but has he
ever played center like Zeke Elliott? Is he capable of? That?
Is that Zeke's last plays a album? What a way
to go out? I mean, the highest paid third down
short guardage back in the history of the game, like
that is he is? He the smallest center in the

(25:52):
history of the NFL. But you know what the worst
part is is they like drew more attention to him
because before the place starts to go, twenty one is
reporting eligible and obviously, like by the way Greg Oldsanaic
Burger had a great call and Greg's like, well, you
know that's because he's snapping the football and that doesn't
matter because he's either going to be laddering the football around.
But he scheduled his cap at sixteen point seven million

(26:14):
next year, he would count eleven point eight against the
dead cap. But he's I've been thinking about this. He's
under contract for another four years with Dallas. He's untradeable too.
That's not that's not anyone is going to make. They
gotta cut him. Let me ask you as a question,
something sounded better about the Niner Cowboy game as opposed

(26:38):
to the Bills Bengals game. I don't know what it was.
I was more excited about the the NFC game, but
like what they get delivered, I think the I think
that the NFC game was more exciting energy wise than
than the first one. It didn't it sound better like
there was something about it that sounded Oh that's right
because Tony Romo wasn't doing the NFC game. Okay, that's
what it was interesting out. I'll tell you what, man,

(27:02):
Greg doesn't get enough credit. I thought Greg did a
heck of a job all year and and and that
game in particular, and I hope people give him credit
for it. I thought, situationally, he was all over it,
did a great job explaining stuff and jumping out ahead
of stuff like I just I think he deserves more
credit for his game called likable dude too. He's a
likable dude. Man. Yeah, I mean he burned Notre Dame.

(27:24):
But I mean we're gonna leave that dame. I'm pretty
sure tight end you continued on. So yeah, I'm just saying,
there you go. You know, I felt like he burned him.
But again, I mean pretty much since he was there
every single time, and it started from Notre Dame has
been drafted, so that you have that eighteen years ago.
And Penn State, by the way, we are are our

(27:45):
guys get drafted too, So take get drafted. But I
don't think you have the same streak. Yeah. Well, I
was just trying to trying. You were trying to you
were trying to, you know, get on that Penn State band.
I was, But I was just saying, you got the lineback,
are you. I was just trying to say, convicts, Catholics
you know work all right, That's fair that I was

(28:09):
just trying to support you. But I got you. I
appreciate it. Dang. Look let's do this. Let's go to
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(29:12):
the early look ahead here to the conference championship games.
All right, So let's just obviously we're gonna have plenty
of time to break this down in depth, but early
look aheads right now, the betting lines for the Niners
and the Eagles. Philly is a two and a half
point favorite hosting San Francisco next week, and Kansas City
is a one point favorite hosting the Bengals. So I

(29:36):
don't just on the subject of the Chiefs and the Bengals.
What are you expecting from Patrick Mahomes high ankle sprain?
I'm sure you guys have dealt with this, uh, high
ankle sprain seven days after eight days after he suffered
the injury? How's this week? And to go? How's that?
How's he going to look at that game next week?

(29:58):
I don't know toward all can help him, man, I
don't know the juices from the gods will be able
to get you through a high ankle sprain. Man, that
I just don't know. Like, high ankle sprains are harder.
It's a more complicated weight bearing issue than the lower ankle.
Like you could tape it up pretty good. I mean,
they might have to put a cast on on his

(30:18):
on his shoe, on his foot, and then I hope
that he can just you know, take a couple of steps.
I don't know. I don't know the level of of
how bad the sprain is. But high ankle sprains are
so painful. Man, They're so painful. I had I've had
like a couple of them. It's just they're just it's
just different than the regular ankle sprain. It's just they're super,

(30:41):
super intensely painful. What's the normal recovery time for that
six weeks? Four to six weeks? I mean it depends
on the severity and all that four to six weeks.
I mean we've seen guys, remember Um two, when he
is high ankle sprains, some guys will get surgery. Yeah,
they literally put in that kind of looks like a
bicycle Janey, like inside your your shin. Help keep that

(31:03):
stuff stabilized. That to both, didn't he? Yeah, and again
he's like a biotic man at this point. Yeah, it's
like RoboCop. So, I mean, look, if Patrick Mahomes is
going to be in this capacity, I don't know how
you don't like Cincinnati. Yeah, Um, if Patrick Mahomes is

(31:24):
looking like this, I don't know how you don't like
the Bengals going into that game. Well, I think you
like the Bengals because of history too, Like the Bengals
are unfazed by ruining an inspiring story Like I mean, look,
Damar handling him being there last night. You know it
was great, right inspired the Bills got the crowd all
that people are happy to Yeah, I guess what happened

(31:47):
that first drive. Bengal said, Yeah, we don't care, like awesomely,
we're glad you're back, buddy, but we're here to win
a football game. And I know for some people they
might feel like it's a little tough to hear, but
that's the reality of it. Like, none of those guys
are thinking about that once they get in the field,
the balls kicked, you're getting punched in the face. I mean,
that's just that's how it works. And and here's the

(32:07):
thing is, like the Bengals don't feel apologetic, but one
thing Zach Taylor's apologizing for is all logistical issues. You know.
He they're you know, causing with the neutral site game
tickets that have to be refunded and all these other
things that that were impacted by you know, them beating
the Buffalo Bills. So they don't care. Man, they're on
a mission right now. Joe Burrow looks as locked in

(32:28):
as anyone, and this defense is playing. I don't think
their defense has gotten enough credit for how well they've played.
They won them the wild card round game, and they
were a huge piece of shutting down Stefon Diggs, Josh
Allen and making a frustrating all game long. And I'm
so glad that. First of all, I'm glad Cincinnati one.

(32:48):
I like Buffalo, but I'm glad Cincinnati one because this
push now to do neutral site conference championship games making
a thing moving forward, which is getting louder and louder.
I'm glad we're not getting a test run next weekend
because I think it's the dumbest thing in the world.
I know the NFL wants money, but I like the
idea of a team getting to have a home game

(33:10):
as their final goodbye to their fans before they go
to the super Bowl, because a lot of those fans
can't afford to go to the Super Bowl. A lot
of those fans can't make it work. It's it's pricey.
You want neutral site conference championship games, I don't. I'm
out the Bowl. Come on, man, it's the Bowl. It's
like a bowl series. I like it. Sper Bowl. Yeah,

(33:31):
that's the super Bowl, that's the Bowl of the Bowls.
I just kind of like, I kind of like to
switch up. I like to shake up a neutral site.
I gotta. I kind of like it. It creates more.
It creates to me more business opportunities. In my opinion,
my estimation, I like it. There should be business opportunities

(33:51):
for those local uh you know venues there in Kansas City,
local venues in Philadelphia. How about all those Philly cheese
steak sandwich shops. Then they need some business. Once you
get off your high horse about it, like I understand,
I understand the the value of of having home field advantage.

(34:13):
I feel like almost well, where we're at the edition
of one more game and and now you're fighting for
that number one spot. I think that the biggest thing
you should be playing for is the bye week, like
you're playing for the number one spot one yeah, but
but you have to understand man, home field it's like
a reward, I know, I mean, I get it, but

(34:35):
you're gonna get at least one home game you're gonna
get I mean, maybe even something. But know what we're
saying is you don only get one. Yeah, I mean
because if you're funny for the if you're fighting for
the number one overall seating to by, then you then
you play one, you win one game, right, you get
one week off, you win one game, you go to
the championship. I think it Another thing is I think

(34:55):
it makes it more difficult to win a super Bowl.
Like I think it's already hard enough in a league
that creates parity. Why would you want to go to
all these neutral site games? Like I just and I think, look,
I think a lot of times, you know, places miss
with doing these neutral site games. And like, I'm not
trying to disrespect, you know, the the Sofi Stadium of

(35:16):
the environment in l A for a national championship, but
and the weather played a portion of it, but it
just didn't have that feel. And granted, look l A
is big enough where it can swallow up a big
event and you can't even really feel it because it's
just a big city. It's like that when the super
Bowls in New York. I kind of felt that way too,
to be honest with you, Like it it felt like, oh,

(35:36):
the super Bowls there, it's a big deal because it's
New York, but if you were in like a different
part of Manhattan, you didn't really know what was going on,
you know, like you're kind of like, oh, like you
could get lost up in what New York is because
it's such a big city. So I don't know, I wouldn't.
I think Atlanta have done a great job hosting it.
I just I'm not a fan of it. I think
it's reward for the fans, it's reward for the team.

(35:57):
It's a reward for the owner, like they should be
able to take in, you know, those profits and everything
that they're able to earn to off of putting together
a team that's competitive that wins. Like you don't get
that in a neutral side game. Some of their owners
profiting off that, some other cities profiting off Plus, you
played in Kansas City, you know it's awesome. That's going
to be next. Do you see the line to get

(36:18):
in just to get in seven am? It was gridlocked
just to get in to go tailgate out in Casey,
Like it was incredible like that. I mean, now barbecuing,
you know and LaVar. You know that's takes textime, so
you gotta get there and get a set up early.
But they were grid locked to go in that sports

(36:38):
complex to be able just to park and start tailgating.
I mean, that's you take that opportunity away. It's because
because there's other thing is let's say they do a
neutral site game at a so far, I guess what
you're not doing. You're not tailgating, not driving, and they
don't they're not allowing you. But there might be some
there might be some fans that actually, you know our
case fans in l A. But I'm saying they're not.

(37:00):
They're not gonna tailgate like you don't have that same atmosphere.
So I just I think it takes away from all
the unique details that like every city, every team brings,
and I would hate to see it. So I'm with Jonahs.
I'm glad this thing worked out the way it did. Um,
I'm not with you guys, niners. Well, I mean that
it's okay. I mean Bert, we're we're gonna take this.
I mean he's disagreeing with us and with it too.

(37:24):
So Burno is with you, guys, let's go Lee. Are
you with LaVar? You with and Roberto? Of course? No,
I'm not with LaVar on this one. I would think
before are probably not on your side on this one. Okay,
it's I've never had the most surprising take I think

(37:45):
you've ever had. I don't know, I've had some pretty
surprising I've had some really surprising to a neutral site.
I just like a neutral site. I just think that
there's to me looking at the logistics of what I know.
I know, but I'm not I don't. I don't feel
like I am. I just feel like my opinion sits

(38:07):
Where can we can we do a Twitter poll? I'd
love to just see how this I'm I'm only curious
because maybe there's more people who feel the way you do.
I don't know. I just I just think that a
neutral site for the championship rounds, it's kind of it's
like we're watching college football turn more into professional football.
Why not turn Some aspects of the problem with that

(38:29):
is they're bringing aspects of what we're saying though they're
trying to do initial first round home games. Yeah, I
get it. Initial first round home going games are no problems.
I don't have a problem with that. When you get
to the when you get to the championship round, I
almost feel like, yeah, making a bowl game, like you
know what if you it's not it's that's not how

(38:51):
obviously it's done that at you know, lower levels. I
don't think either, So I'm just saying I would like
a neutral site for it for the Championship round. Come on, league,
it ain't happening this year. I'll tell you that because
because Snowborrow showed up to Buffalo just crushing people's dreams
and inspiring stories that come along with them. He's awesome. Uh.

(39:14):
And on the subject of the NFC title game, he
got the Niners at the Eagles, as mentioned, Philadelphia two
and a half point favorite. I mean, brock Purty wasn't
great yesterday, but he didn't turn the ball over. He
didn't lose the game. That was the difference between him
and down. Don't lose the gang, Yeah, Like that's the thing,
don't lose the game. Like, I felt like Dadac was

(39:40):
in a position where the things that he was saying
are the things that he was believing, and the things
that he was believing were ultimately the things that led
to him. Possibly in moments of time in that game
where you're taking chances and you're taking risks to to
make something happen, maybe you'd don't necessarily need to do it,

(40:01):
you know, maybe maybe you could have let the game
come to you a little bit more than than what
it did. Maybe you don't, you know, make some of
the mistakes that you make, you know, I just feel
as though I just feel as though Brock Purdy knows
his role and and and and to that point, Dac

(40:22):
knows his role as well, and Dac was going out
there to win the game. I just feel like when
you get into a game where you know the flow
of this game is it's a defensive game, don't push,
don't don't force it, like, allow for it to play
out because big plays like they were talking about that,

(40:43):
I agree with you que on them, the way they
were talking about the game and how they were talking
about McCaffrey was sitting with Purdy and how he you know,
he kind of mentors Purty and he was telling him like, look, man,
take take your time or you know, do what you
need to do, but don't force it because it only
takes one big play, like your big play will come

(41:06):
with you just staying within the confines of what it
is that you know are the things to do instead
of trying to force it. And you know what, he
did get a big play like the Catchwick Kelsey probably
stimulated that that whole drive to to be able to
end the way that it did, and that turned out
to be one of the differences that that drive was

(41:26):
probably the difference in the game offensively. Now you talk
about the turnovers, I think the one turnover led to
a to a touchdown, right, I believe it's like kind
of all scrambled. But all I know is is Dak
Prescott was in a tough position because I think he
I think he put that tough position pressure on himself

(41:49):
to be the reason why they won that game and
then out. I mean, that was a big difference. That
was a big difference. I mean, I'll be honest with you, though,
I think he had That's the only way Dallas wins
that game. If you look at how that game played out,
at least early on, Dallas will stop in the rushing attack.
They're putting it on brock Purty and he wasn't necessarily delivering.

(42:13):
I mean, it really was a game of all, right,
can can the opportunity was there? Can that nick enough throws?
Can he make enough plays to make it happen? And
it just wasn't the case Like that was that was
the position I think the Cowboys defense put them in,
at least in my opinion, and I think the first interception,
San Francisco only got three off that if not mistaken

(42:35):
um and then I can't remember what happened after the
other one, but you know that, I thought that Dallas
Cowboys defense was lights out, stepped up, played the way
they needed to do to give their team a chance
to win. Walk away from that game feeling like you
let them down. I know that field goal field goal
on both interceptions, I thought, I mean, think about that

(42:55):
change of possession. They but they step up both times
and more often than not. I thought even the fuel position,
like Dallas had good fuel position throughout the game. Turpin
and his returns did a good job and they just
couldn't do much with it. And Ceedee Lamb was awesome.
He played great, but yeah, unfortunately he was. I'll say

(43:16):
this though, it does feel like we got the two
best teams from each conference in the conference championships. It
feels like the San Francisco and Philly all year and
since and Kansas City are the two best teams in
the a f C. So I do like that matchup.
It's not always the case in the NFL. I would
describe it like this, You've got the two top seeds. Obviously,

(43:37):
both being the number one seeds who were the entire
body of worked best teams this year. But then you
have the two hottest teams. When you look at Cincinnati
their win streak coming the regular season, I think that's
what is at nine or ten in a rona. It
was eight in a road to end the regular season,
I believe after the four and four start because they
didn't play a seventeenth game obviously, and then for San Francisco,

(43:58):
I believe it was a ten game win streak. So
what you've got is the two best and too hottest.
And I think the whole idea of you know, who
ends up going to the Super Bowl, who ends up
winning it, because you're always talking about like you gotta
get hot at the right time. This is gonna kind
of test that theory because obviously, with the injury that
hurts Philly went through a bit of a lull there.
And for Kansas City, they've been good all year. Like

(44:19):
I don't know that they necessarily went on a lull,
it's just at times they kind of struggled, were like
you're like all right, like it kind of struggle for
Houston some of the other teams that you think they
should beat handily. Um, they had some of those moments
that made you think, all right, maybe they're not you know,
as Domino playing quite as well as we thought. Cincinnati
hasn't lost since Halloween, think about you know, I don't
think San Francisco has lost for even further back. It's

(44:41):
really incredible. Back to the deck situation for one quick second,
if you think about it, three points off of both
of those so three points each time, six points and okay,
all right, so then that you're talking about potentially a
game going into overtime like him, you know what I mean,

(45:04):
Like the game is a game of inches, and and
it's interesting because to think that those sudden turnovers led
to points, and those points lead to the deficit along
with the block the block field goal. So it's like
kind of like or a point after that's just to me,

(45:25):
that's when you break it down that way, like you're
that close to winning or you're that close to having
a chance to win, and then the whole narrative is
is totally disrupted, Like what are we talking? Like what
are we saying today? If Dallas win wins that game,
even if even if his offensive output Dak Prescott's was

(45:47):
not phenomenal. Even if you'll talk about we'll talk about
how phenomenal their defense played and how they gave him
an opportunity to win, and how he did what he
needed to do against the number one defense enough so
where they were able to win the game. But I mean,
I just thought that that's pretty interesting. Thought like two
turnovers and each time it was three points and and literally,

(46:10):
if your kicker isn't you know, doing what he's doing,
that's it's probably a tie. Gang. Yeah, it's you can
make that case. By the way, Um, you said the
Bengals having lost since Halloween, haven't lost since the week before.
So y'all saying those are the ones that's gonna meet
in the super Bowl, that's what you said. Okay, I

(46:32):
called it like a week ago. I think I think
it's gonna be Cincinnati San fran which is tough because
that's that's two road teams. But I think Cincinnati's gonna
win it this year. Wow. I just I think Burrows
playing at a different level. I think had he been
healthy to start the season, he probably would have been
m v P. Yeah, who's getting m VP. Oh my
homes homes that's already done. It's yeah, it's two pros

(46:55):
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