05/30/2024 – Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, body cam footage comes out on the Scottie Scheffler arrest. NFL Reporter, Albert Breer talks about the biggest headlines from the offseason. The Old P, Petros Papadakis joins Brady and LaVar to talk about the Lakers coaching search and much more! 

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Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm britty, Quinn.

Speaker 7 (00:58):
No, Jonas knocks today, He's take a couple well deserved
days off. Also a big day for him tomorrow. We
always joke about this. We probably we probably haven't joked
about it as much as we used to. LeVar, But
and I want to bring Leon on this because I think,
even with you though, we've probably missed his birthday the
past two years.

Speaker 8 (01:19):
Every day, every single year, I don't know when his birthday.
Nobody tells me anything.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
October twenty seven, No.

Speaker 8 (01:26):
No, it's not October. So how can his birthday be tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's tomorrow. It's tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (01:31):
So if you are out there with Jonas a very
happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
His birthday is tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
How old is he going to be? Two hundred and fifty?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, twift old.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
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probably doesn't like this, but but I am sharing the
word because he's our he's our guy, he's our buddy,
and he's taking some time off.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
For his birthday, which is nice, well deserved him. Yes, yes,
enjoy ju Jonas.

Speaker 7 (01:59):
I know I'll tell you not that he's the type
that wants to overly indulge himself, but I believe he will.
I believe he's doing something kind of cool, kind.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Of special for his birthday, so it should be fun.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
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Speaker 3 (02:23):
Should be that.

Speaker 7 (02:25):
Uh, I'm not sure if you followed that that saga
that we talked about, because you don't follow the PGA,
but we did get an update.

Speaker 8 (02:32):
I did follow that though, okay, you know you got
You know why I follow stuff like this cute because
I'm always like and people will say, oh, that's that's
so inappropriate or uncalled for, But I gotta be honest
the society and the world we live in when things
like this happen, I pay attention just for the comps,

(02:55):
Like the comps of it all becomes more interesting to
me than E been kind of what the storyline and
so like, you know, somebody hasn't done something like crazy
wrong and something like this happens.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
How is it handled?

Speaker 8 (03:12):
You know, like there there were no I don't think
there were any protest or or anything that took place
outside of Valhalla.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
You know what I mean, Like you start, you know
what I mean? You know what I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
I mean, it's it hits on a societal cultural level
in a way. I understand what you mean. And then
and it is funny to see the reaction from people.
My stance has always been every situation in circumstance is a.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Freak, yes, unique to it to that situation for certain too.

Speaker 7 (03:43):
Oftentimes the lazy approach that I think sometimes we say
in sports talktimes, you know, on news radio TV. Is
they just throw a blanket over the whole thing. I
think every situation should be treated the same. Now, like
one comment that I think is probably true, but in
this circumstance, it might be a little different, right, because

(04:04):
if you don't know that person's a cop, you're probably gonna,
you know, might not treat them the exact same way
as you would if you knew they were a cop. Right,
And in this instance, it sounds like Scotty Scheffler didn't
know that he was dealing with a cop. Now, we've
got a couple minutes of bodycam footage, so we're gonna
play the audio for you. So if you don't know

(04:25):
what happened to Scotty Scheffler back during the PGA Championship
a couple weeks ago now at Valhalla, this is what
led to the arrest of Scotty Scheffler.

Speaker 9 (04:37):
My house is right up that road, and so I
was playing on getting here at five point fifty.

Speaker 10 (04:41):
This morning to start my work for nineteen Times. Yeah,
I had to loop all the way around that way.

Speaker 9 (04:46):
It took me about probably a half hour because I'm
pulling in here. The police officer up there told me
to come the opposite way with the traffic and then
come in.

Speaker 10 (04:53):
As I was pulling in, my window was down.

Speaker 9 (04:56):
An officer told me to stop, and as I was
First of all, I did not know that he was
a police officer. I thought he was one of the
security guards that was mistaken. And as I was pulling
by me, he wrote.

Speaker 10 (05:06):
Stop stop right there. Why does that matter if he's
a security guard or a police officer, because if somebody's
telling you stop, yes, you're right, I should have stopped.
I did get a little bit impatient because I'm point
late for my tea time, and.

Speaker 9 (05:18):
As he was reaching the car, he grabbed my shoulder
and hit me like I'm trying.

Speaker 10 (05:23):
To get you to stop right yes, okay.

Speaker 9 (05:26):
It seemed to be a little bit over aggressive because
the entrance was open, okay.

Speaker 10 (05:30):
And I pulled a little bit because I was afraid.

Speaker 9 (05:33):
I thought he was gonna start hitting me, and I
didn't know who he was. He didn't tell me he
was a police officer. I didn't always always the yellow jacket.

Speaker 10 (05:39):
I know what he was doing, lessen the police officer.
So the thing is he's wearing a uniform.

Speaker 11 (05:44):
Okay, He also was wearing the same jacket that I
have on The says police also on that if someone's
telling you to stop, no matter who it is, you
don't keep going. So what happened is you kept going
and you took him with you while he's at pedestrianne Okay,
so you took him with your car, yes, and drugged him.

Speaker 10 (06:03):
Okay, yeah, which is not a good thing. Right are where?

Speaker 11 (06:05):
That was to make it so to listen to me,
so make it even worse. When he asked you to
get out of the car, he reviews to get out
of the car.

Speaker 9 (06:11):
I still did not was not wear he was a
police officer. I was actually looking out the window of
the car to try to find a police officer.

Speaker 10 (06:17):
I asked, we're all right here, and I was there.
Believe me, sir, We're all wearing yellow vests. So you
can see this.

Speaker 9 (06:23):
If he knew he was a police officer, I would
have been much more or less afraid. But panic kind
of set in. As you can see, I'm still shaking
because I was afraid. I didn't know who he was.
He didn't say police, get out of car. He just
hit me with his flashlight and ye'll get the car.
So we're wearing a lot of police gears. That's surely
signing about it that we're leaving me.

Speaker 10 (06:43):
If I knew he was a police officer, I would
have gone out of the car. I don't know what
to tell you. Then, Well, it was a little bit
panic trying to get into the golf course, and I
don't know what to do. But let's go back to
the first point.

Speaker 11 (06:52):
Okay, no matter if you thought it was a police
officer or not, somebody have stuff.

Speaker 10 (06:56):
Why are were wearing yellow vests? Why do you think
we're wearing yellow vests so you can see us right,
yes you can. And if somebody tells you to stop it,
if it's a traffick.

Speaker 11 (07:02):
Guard, security guard, anybody that made you stop at that time,
and you don't keep going.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
So there you have it. Those are the comments from
Scotty Scheffler.

Speaker 7 (07:12):
Now that was not I believe Detective Gillis of the
Louisville p D. Brian Gillis, who was the officer that
he had said, had reached into the car and made
contact with him, and allegedly Scotty Scheffler had dragged at
one point, causing Gillis to fall. He actually was taking
the hospital for some of those injuries, and probably the

(07:33):
funniest part of the entire thing. Not trying to make
light of the situation, but he did rip his pants
that were noted in the police report to be valued
at eighty dollars. So there's that the charges have been
dropped though against Scottie Scheffler. However, that doesn't mean this
necessarily stops here. Steve Rominz, who I believes the s
how you pronounced the last name of the attorney that's

(07:55):
representing Scotty Scheffler, also had talked about this, you know,
potentially being a lawsuit and use this you quote unquote
false arrest in regards to Scotty Shuffler, which as anyone
can hear, clearly there was a misunderstanding. As we kind
of pointed out, he didn't know it was a police officer,
and just so there's more context of this too. Oftentimes

(08:17):
there's not that many police officers at the scene, usually
early in.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
The morning at stark out.

Speaker 7 (08:22):
They weren't reflective vest their security because they're handling something
because of the death of an individual that was hit
by a shuttle bus. That was why there are so
many cops at that particular moment at.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
The scene who are a part of it.

Speaker 7 (08:36):
So it's understandable when these guys do this every single
week when they go into a golf course, that they
end up, you know, seeing a bunch of security and
not realizing like they're actually police officers who are in
those vests, not security, because that's one of the things
the cop did not identify was the fact that security
was wearing the same thing as the police officers too.
They reflective vest that day. So I think you could

(08:57):
see how there's a misunderstanding all this, right.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
I mean, my take on it just initially is I mean,
I think I think the only person that was right
in the scenario was the officer that was on the
body cam that he was speaking with. I mean, he
was he seemed to have a problem, like he's just
by sound of it, he sounded like he had a
little bit of a problem with Scheffler in the way
that he handled it. But those guys have a job

(09:22):
to do, and so many times I think we lose
track of the fact that first responders are what they
truly are. They're first responders. So when you have you know, firemen,
when you have police officers, those those men and women
have duties and they have.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Escalated jobs that they have to do.

Speaker 8 (09:43):
I think so many times we paint this and it's
an inaccurate depiction of especially lately, just well not lately,
but just historically speaking, law enforcement gets a really really
they get a horrible rat.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Say this.

Speaker 8 (10:02):
In a situation like this, it's such a it's a
hard it's a hard comprehension of this one, because you
have a weird ass mix. Right, you had a death
take place, but this death took place where this this
athlete is performing. And and so if you don't if

(10:25):
you don't understand athlete life, and I think we had
this conversation before, right, if you don't understand athlete life,
then you you sit here and you look at and
and and take the story and say Scheffler was in
the wrong, which he was. He was in the wrong.
He should have complied, and that like, let that be known.
He should have complied period from there. But in these scenarios,

(10:48):
like he said, look, my home is over here, my
tea time is at this time. The only reason why
we're all out here is because of people like me.
That's that's that's what should be stated, you're getting paid
to be out there and to be working because you're
you're doing an event that this guy is a star
of right, that would be like that would be like,

(11:13):
you know, here's another Beatle in the world currently past
year Q it'd be like the Beatles being like out
from getting to the stage, or it'd be like, you know,
some type of performer that had a concert or whatever
it may be. When you get to the venue, there's
a lot of things going on. Like to think that

(11:34):
he knew, which I'm assuming he probably didn't.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Know, but maybe he did. Even if he didn't know,
he is.

Speaker 8 (11:41):
Trying to do one thing and one thing only, and
that's get to the course so that he can do
what he needs to do. That's what any of them
would be thinking. That's what any of us would be thinking.
You know, whether whether whatever the industry may be, when
you had those type of situations of venue, say it
was a wrestler, it was a wwe was you know,
SmackDown or something like that. You know, Pat McAfee needed

(12:03):
to get there or one of the wrestlers needed to
get there. They are generally going to do what like
they're not abiding by the codes of what everyday law is.
And I think that that's something that should be established
here because when you're talking in these type of you know, circles,
you can really get caught up into social justice and

(12:25):
what that looks like. I think Scheffler was culpable, but
for one reason or another, I mean it was the
charges were dropped because I think that they probably had
to take into consideration the things that I just said,
is the venue, what was taking place, who he was
to the venue, why everybody's out there to begin with,

(12:46):
And like, did he really do something that was egregious
enough for him to be taking to jail when you
knew all he was trying to do was get to
his tea time.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
I think that that's ultimately what it comes down to.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
Yeah, that's sart of the game, if you will, you know,
for for those that don't play golf from the.

Speaker 8 (13:01):
Imagine Tom Brady, like somebody got and and God bless right,
like we say God bless the family. Imagine Tom Brady
or Patrick Mahomes because he's playing right, he's current. Patrick
Mahomes has to get to the locker room and a
shuttle hits someone and someone passed away. It's a horrible
thing that happened. It's a bad thing that happened. But
a Q can I ask you this is that game

(13:24):
going to start on time?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yes, it is okay.

Speaker 8 (13:28):
And that is so you have one of the main
stars that isn't going to be there for the show
because the security or the police that are there chose
to make Patrick Mahomes an example.

Speaker 7 (13:43):
I you know, and that's the tough part is I
try to see this thing from all vantage points. You know,
if you're if you're a detective Brian Gills's shoes, you
have to look at it as you have got an
active crime scene from a death. You've got a shuttle
bust that was dropped off, and you know, tens of people,
maybe one hundred people are who are now working as

(14:05):
vendors at the course for the event, are being dropped off.
They're coming through and it's a little bit chaotic. And
then meanwhile you see a car then pull off on
the shoulder and try to you know, find its way
through to an entrance that is.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Going the wrong way in traffic.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
Now at the end of the day, you know, obviously
the officer wasn't aware of that. It was a fact
it was a PGA Tour player that PGA Tour players
were being told.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
To do that.

Speaker 8 (14:32):
But it's a PGA Tour event and then get that
take the time to collect the entail away to get
that place.

Speaker 7 (14:39):
I do think the PGA Tour should share a little
bit in the blame for one hundred. I mean, you
had players, even after this event took place, who walked
two miles to get into the golf course. And I
understand Valhalla is a very unique place, one way in,
one way out, so they've got their logistical issue. But

(15:00):
if you're the PGA Tour, having these guys drive themselves
in a marked car probably isn't what you should be doing.
You could probably find volunteers who will drive them. The
owner of the club end up being the one that
picked up Scottie Scheffer from jail.

Speaker 8 (15:15):
But you know what, c the way it kind of
played out, there's no telling if they would have even
about it, if the if the law enforcement would have
even respected that. It just sounds like maybe he needed
to find out who it was. Like, if this man
is breaking the law right in front of your face
at a at an event that he is participating in,

(15:35):
that is paying the what's going on around here. I'm
sure they were getting paid from from the venue, you know,
from the event, not just what they're they're paid regularly.
They were probably getting another fee for that. You're supposed
to check, like check, like, oh, you wanna your one,
like you can't handle it, like he was a criminal

(15:56):
or this a criminal a criminal act. You have to
handle it as this is one of the players. Once
he established he's one of the players, the conversation should
have changed from.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Your breaking the law. You need to stop, you need
to comply, you need to do all this too.

Speaker 8 (16:12):
Let's figure out a way to get you to where
you need to be because we know this event is
based around you guys being here.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
I mean to me, that's how it's always been.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
To the point of just how the cops said, hey,
you should have identified the fact he was a police officer.
He's wearing this vest. We're all wearing these vests. Well,
he was in a car march with a PGA tour
on it. It was an official car of the PGA tour
that the players have to get to and from.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
They should have as he.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
Should have been able to kind of put two and
two together as well, look, it was a big misunderstanding
a lot of people. You know, we're a blame here.
The charges have been dropped though, so at least that's good.
They can move on. The question is whether or not
there will be a lawsuit from Scotti Scheffler, which if
you're a player who's the number one in the world. Uh, look,

(17:02):
you can lean into it. The mug shot, the orange jumpsuit.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Oh, it's bad. It's bad on his a pair.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
That's that's that's that's for a goal for where it
comes from. You know, he just had a child.

Speaker 7 (17:11):
Eventually, what he's gonna have to explain the situation to him.

Speaker 8 (17:14):
Like daddy went to jail. Yeah, daddy had an orange
jumpsuit on. Like Daddy was, you know, handled in this he.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Got you know, delaced, you know when he went in there.
It was kind of like Supertroopers. I'm sure at least
seeing that movie Tang. Have you seen Supertroopers?

Speaker 5 (17:29):
I don't recall it.

Speaker 8 (17:32):
What is the straw the strawberries taste like strawberries?

Speaker 10 (17:36):
Strawberries?

Speaker 4 (17:37):
What you boys like?

Speaker 7 (17:40):
I thought it was Farva who got delced and they
took him in there.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
I get a leader of colon tang, you just go
the line a while. It's been a while, but that
was on the rotation for sure.

Speaker 8 (17:54):
Okay, the snosberries tastes like snowssberries.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
That's right, That's right.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
I mean, is it safe to say before we go
to break?

Speaker 8 (18:02):
Is it safe to say to look at it from
a social justice standpoint? Like, all right, there was no
crazy outrage. Somebody will say his white privilege whatever they
may call it, But is it safe to say the officer,
while not incorrect and handling protocols and in some regard,

(18:22):
still should have identified that this is a participant. I
think if that's established, and then everything that led from it, right,
it's like Scheffler shouldn't have did it. He shouldn't have
pulled off. He should have complied. And well he was
being directed to by the PGA. So or that's what
I kind of said. It's their fault for not communicating.

Speaker 7 (18:43):
With the local police force saying or security whoever at
Vallhalla and saying we're telling our players to do this,
keep an eye on this. And he did it supposedly
because he just wants to do. Cars ahead of him
do it.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
But you have to know that the athletes have to
get there. You're there.

Speaker 8 (19:00):
You have to know that the athletes are trying to
get to their destination. So they should have been accommodating
in that and that right in that regard to begin with,
it should have once they identified that it was Scheffler,
it should have all been done. It should have been squashed,
it should have been handled differently. And I think that
that's a major piece of this because some way, somehow

(19:21):
this would get turned into and misconstrued and confused into,
you know, well, why wasn't it handled this way?

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Other things happen. People have died for less and.

Speaker 8 (19:31):
Different things like that, And I don't feel like that's
you know, I don't feel like that's the proper context
of what took place here. That's that to me, that
was That's what makes this story so interesting, because would
our society find a way.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
To do it?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Would you still sue the lois.

Speaker 8 (19:49):
If I'm if I'm Scottie Scheffler, I'm suing because it
hurts my image. That hurt my image, and all I
was trying to do was go to work. Like again,
the whole entire reason that everything was out there where
everyone was at it's.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Because of us. Yeah, it's because of us.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
There's still a part of me that he looks at
the PGA Tour and just goes and I know he
played Thursday, right, I know it, and he was in
contention obviously, but it.

Speaker 8 (20:17):
Probably costed him. I mean, let's be clear. Yeah, yeah,
probably costed him.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
But it was the first tournament he was back for
as well as the number one player in the world
after winning I believe what back to back tournaments after
just having a baby.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
You just kind of would have thought that they were
taking maybe a little, I don't know, a little more
time around him. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (20:38):
I think it looks like it's a winnable lawsuit, to
be honest.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Yeah, I mean, even on the money they costed him,
it sounded like.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
He was based on what he said the car from
the sound we played, that there's some things there that
might be winnable for him.

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you'd be the best to talk about it. With the
NFL PA and how this whole moving that the calendar
around the off season to move OTA's in minicamp in
essence to write up before training camp, if I'm not mistaken,
was first what dropped by Ian Rapperport, which is probably
an his informission For the NFL side. I'm kind of

(23:20):
just curious as to how this comes to light because
if I'm the NFLPA, I don't know that i'd want
this to get out there because that's a bargaining ship,
especially when we know the NFL team games right.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, And you know, I don't think it's a major
bargaining ship either. You know, I think sometimes Brady, the
players make the mistake of falling into traps the owner
set when you get into a negotiation like this, the
owners don't care when the off season program is you
know what I mean, they'll give that away. And you know,
I think that that happened in the eleven CBA negotiation was, well,

(23:56):
we want more time off in the off season. You know,
the owners are quietly saying to each other, you mean,
we get to shut the lights off for another five
weeks in the spring. Where do I sign up for that?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
You know?

Speaker 6 (24:06):
So you know I wouldn't if I were them, you know,
And you know I've covered enough of these things to
know if I were them, I would be asking for
a lot more than you know. Then then more time
off and the off season, because I know the owners
will willingly give us that. You know, I know that
that's a minor deal for them.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
You know.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
If I'm from the players and you're talking about me
going to eighteen games, and I think I've talked about
this with you guys in the past, I'd be asking
for easier ways to get the free agency. You know,
make it so a guy can get free agency after
three years. Maybe make the franchise tags and the transition
tags less restrictive, you know, do things to give players

(24:48):
greater earning power, because obviously, if you're going through eighteen
games every year, it's going to be more difficult to
to get it out of to get out of each
season healthy and in a position where you have that
earning power.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
I mean, is there the idea that with that earning
power being a part of everything, Albert, that there's some
type of way that these franchises have And listen, I
know it's always skewed towards the owners and stuff like that,
but I mean, let's just think about it. Sometimes the
reason why a trade can't take place or the value
is what it is, is because another team isn't willing

(25:24):
to take on the value of the contract that's already
been done.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Is there a way that that.

Speaker 8 (25:31):
Can evolve where it gives them the opportunity to the
player to get on the open market and be able
to test that value versus it being like say Deshaun
Watson contract and things didn't work out in Cleveland, but.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
You can't get rid of them.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
He can't play his career out somewhere else because he's
stuck within the contract.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, I mean, I'm the key to all that. LeVar
is guaranteed money, you know. I mean, look, as long
as it's a good deal for the team, and the team
is gonna, you know, hold power over the player, and
you know, I'd argue that Sean Watson is in a
great situation because you know, he he might be you know,
and and he might have some issues now that he
doesn't have if if he had a more standard contract

(26:15):
where I believe this is his third year in Cleveland, right,
you know, so or maybe his second year, second year,
so he'd be.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
Going in his third year and it's.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Hard to tell Cleveland he's going into a third year.
So under a standard like contract, this would be probably
the last year of guaranteed money for him, you know
what I mean versus because his contract is guaranteed for
five years. I mean, does he have to worry about
his standing with the team in the league. Yeah, of
course he does, like every other player does. But he

(26:46):
didn't have to worry about his money. He's been getting
his money one way or the other. So you know,
I think, you know, if you want to look and
spend this forward out, you know what the players should
be looking for.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
You know, there's no rule in.

Speaker 6 (26:58):
Places can't guarantee contracts. There's no rule in place in
any sports league that says they have to guarantee contracts.
It's about any ways to get there, and the way
you get there is by getting more guys to free
agency earlier, in finding ways to get guys leverage and negotiations.
You know, it might be by loosening the restriction of
franchise tag. I don't think you're ever going to get

(27:19):
rid of the franchise tag, but can you can you
make it more difficult for teams to franchise tag players.
Those would be the things that I'd be looking for
if I were the NFLPA, because I know if I'm them.
This off season program stuff is just I mean, it's
almost like a fake marketing ship, you know what I mean.
The owners really don't The owners at the end of

(27:40):
the day, really don't care about that stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
The fact that the players care is what I'm like.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
What I would chat for the players, guys, don't you
it's awful? I mean, I mean, here's the way I
look at you. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong here. Okay,
But if I'm a player, I'm looking at especially if
you have like school age kids, right, Like, let's say
you have school age kids. Now, you're going to camp
mid June, right, and you can see that stuff's optional
for the first month. The reality is, you guys know

(28:07):
as well as I do, for eighty to ninety percent
of players, that stuff isn't optional. You have to stow up,
you know. So, so like if you're starting training camp,
if you're starting like OTA's in mid June, and then
you're going straight through, your summer break is gone. Your
time off now is when the kids are in school, right,
And on top of that, you're going to have to

(28:28):
pay for your own training, you know, Like if you're
a player who just wants to go and get better
and get coached, right, Like, well, where are you going
to do that now? From February to June? I mean,
like correct me if I'm wrong, guys, So that's not cheap, right,
like to go and I don't know and you guys do,
but like I would think like getting four or five
months of position specific training, you know, to keep your

(28:51):
skills where they need to be, Like that'd be another
expenditure that if you know there was an off season
program and in April and May and June that you
would have for right, yes, So like I don't know
where the benefit of the player is here and I
and I.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
Don't know if people get paid for to what to
that capacity? Like right, you get paid to be there.
There are boneups that are yeah, they're they're connected to
your contract.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
Right, So I just don't know what the benefit is.
I mean, is it I don't know, like nine weeks
of an off season program where you're showing up you know,
three or four days a week for you know, four
to six hours a day like it's and then you
get and then you get your break and like the
in the summer, you know when if you have kids,
your kids are out of school. I mean, forget about
what this means for the coaches in the scouts, the
executive because it's horrible for them. But this just seems

(29:39):
like a really bad idea all the way around, if
you if you apply like real life realities to it.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
I hate the fact that you keep bringing up like
a faster path to free agency because I just feel
like that's not that's not what they should be bargaining
for at this point, and why not, because the healthcare
angle should be the thing they should focus on the most. Yeah, yeah,
I agree with that that should be the only thing.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Like that about like you talking about like post career
care that sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, like lifetime healthcare for players after certain.

Speaker 7 (30:14):
However many credit seasons and that number has been a
sliding scale and it will be in a negotiation. But
you know, when I was a part of a player
in an alternate like, one of the things that you
would talk about is taking care of the guys who
paved the path before you. I get the sense that
nowadays players don't feel that as much. And maybe some
of the older veterans veteran guys do and they understand, hey,

(30:37):
my time's coming to an end, hopefully we can set
some things in place, you know, for me after the fact.
But there's a lot of older veteran guys out there
who need that care, who need help, and there's some
resources out there, but it's not as good as.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
It could be.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
And so it's just it hurts to hear you say
that every time, though, because if you're saying that, that
means you know something, and that means you know it's
going in that direction.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
Well, I agree, I agree with you same, Brady, and
I think so I think part of the problem with
that is the NFLPA is like interesting because it's like
you have the executive committee, right, which is generally made
up of players who are older vets. Right, So guys
in year nine, year ten, you know, like because they
are on their way out. But then like, because of

(31:19):
the nature of football, the makeup of like the membership
of the NFLPA, like ninety percent of the guys are
what three years of service or less? Right, So how
are those guys thinking? I mean, most of those guys
are probably just thinking, let me get mine and get out,
you know what I mean, Like, because when you're twenty two,
twenty three, twenty four years old you're not worried about

(31:40):
like you're just not thinking about it, like you know, okay, like,
well that fifty sixty seventy year old guy that we
can take care of, now, that's going to be me eventually.
You know, you don't think that way. And so I
think it's a really good point, you know what I mean? Like,
and I think that that's something that certainly, certainly, and I,
you know, I should be more sensitive to that. Somebody

(32:00):
who covers the sport certainly should be something to the
top the list for the nflp Ah, Well.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
You're not sensitive to it, Albert, You're not.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
I feel very insensitive talking to two X players that way.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Quick.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
I want to follow up on I'm just got some
newsy stuff. Obvious.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
The report comes out, it looks like maybe Minnesota would
have potentially traded justin Jefferson get inside the top five
draft lak neighbors YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
At what point?

Speaker 7 (32:25):
Well, two questions, One, why does that get out? And
then two, at what point does Jefferson get a deal
deal done in Minnesota?

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Well, the first time of it, I don't think it
was ever realistic. In fact, like talking to teams in
the top ten, you know, over the last week and
a half leading up to the draft, four or five, six,
like those teams weren't hearing from Minnesota anymore because I
think Minnesota sort of had determined that New England was
going to stick at three and take Drakes Bay. And
you know, like just globally, like just with the way

(32:56):
the market you know, is kind of shaking out. I've
heard the market for those ticks like outside of the
top three collapse once it became clear that Drake May
was going to go third overall. So you know, like,
I don't know how close this was ever to happening. Now,
you know, could you whisper about it to try to
create some leverage, maybe, but you know, I don't think

(33:19):
that was ever close to happening. I do think, you know,
for all the the the k rattling that eventually a
deal gets done because it has to get done. You're
not going to find a better a better asset for
your young quarterback and JJ McCarthy than going and making
sure that Justin Jefferson is somebody he can grow with.

(33:40):
And that's part of the advantage of having you know,
Kirk Cousins off the book and folks and having a
quarterback on a rookie contract. So is it gonna hurt?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (33:48):
Is it going to cost you know, over one hundred
million dollars guaranteed and over one hundred million dollars over
the first three years? I think it will yes, But
is it going to be worth it? I would say
as an investment in near young quarterback and as a
lever that you can pull to take advantage of having
a quarterback in a rookie contract. I have one that
could happen. So might this like kind of drag out

(34:11):
into the summer the way Nick Bosa did last summer?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (34:15):
Is this as complicated as Nick Bosa last summer?

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (34:18):
Do I think it gets done like Nick Bosa did?

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I do?

Speaker 7 (34:22):
And then on the topic of wide receivers Jamar Chase
t Higgins no shows that OTA is not that big
of a deal. But if they don't make it a
mini camp, that's a little different. How do you see
that situation soaring himself out?

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yeah, I think the likelihood is, you know, within a
year or so, Jamar Chase has a new contract and
t Higgins is somewhere else. That'd be my guess. Now
you know, like, how you know, I agree, does this
get I think it'll be fine because I think you
got Joe Burrow a quarterback. Joe Burrow's got a good
rapport with those guys, and I do think that ultimately,

(34:56):
because the Bengals showed they would do it last year
with Burrow after three years, that they will move somewhat
aggressively with Chase. And it wouldn't surprise me. A Chase,
by the way, guys, is waiting on Jefferson because he
knows Jefferson's going to change the market, and he knows
that once that, once Jefferson's deal gets done, the floor

(35:17):
is set for his deal. So you know, my feeling
is the Higgins thing is just going to kind of
be a slow burn. And I don't know the Bengals
feel like, you know, they'll be able to sign everybody,
and so my guests would be Higgins probably comes in
right before the season, maybe they get a little sweetener
to come in, he plays the season out, and then
he goes to free agency in twenty twenty five, whereas

(35:41):
I think Chase probably winds up getting a deal done
and maybe getting a deal done by the end of
the summer.

Speaker 7 (35:47):
Great stuff as always, Albert and I got to admit
to the past couple of weeks some clean phone calls
from you.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I mean, no, it's not been the fan I actually did.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
For my basement tonight or today. So so maybe we
need to maybe we need to make that a more
regular thing.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I kind of like the old way.

Speaker 7 (36:03):
I kind of like the construction background, the dog's barking.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
Yeah. I do like to keep you guys on your shoes.
I think I think it improves the quality of the show.
You know, But if you guys want to clear a
phone call, I come down to the basement every week,
will you.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
We just like the drops of your family that we
could then come back and play from time to time.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Well, that's no time. I don't I don't know if
I'll ever be able to recreate the bluetooth in my
car picking up my wife, yelling at my kids. That
was that was that was that was a special special moment.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
It was awesome. It was awesome.

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Speaker 14 (37:35):
We're gonna do a whole hour here of sports talk
radio on a national level, and uh, we're gonna talk.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
We're going to talk about sports.

Speaker 14 (37:44):
We're gonna do a real sports talk show, not like
when I come on here and it's all just grab
ass on Wednesdays. Hour of that is that about bossing.
It's your guys show. We can do whatever, we can
do whatever you want. I'm just here to help you
across the finish line. I'm gonna do to if today
goes okay, and I'm also going to do Monday, and

(38:04):
I'm also going to do Tuesday. From what I understand,
Jonas is celebrating a birthday and the local Shaky's in
Moore Park.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Or where are.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Do you like their chicken or their pizza?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Better chicken to Mojo's we j do.

Speaker 14 (38:20):
We do advertisements for Shaky's on the local AM five
seventy LA Sports here where we're on in LA and
they bring us our Dodger coverage. Dodgers just swept the
Mets in New York for a weekend and I heard
the Big Head and Giant Head Show talking about it
in their promo. In the very last segment, they talk

(38:40):
a lot of Mets. The Big Head and Giant Head show.
You guys know that show.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I don't know that show.

Speaker 14 (38:45):
Jason Smith and the Big Head guy, it's a Big
Head and Giant Head. They hammer a lot of Mets talk.

Speaker 7 (38:54):
There happen to be the only show that hammers the Mets.

Speaker 14 (38:57):
Is that they love Mets talk. I guess if Jimmy
Kimmel had a radio show, he'd talk a lot of Yeah,
he's a big he's a big Mets fan. It isn't
it funny that Jimmy Kimmel and Adam Carolla were like
the duo and they have both like sprinted to the
opposite sides of the whole opposite room.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Don't you love an election year?

Speaker 14 (39:19):
But anyway, Shaky's, as I was saying, we go to
Shaky's dot com right before the Dodger game, and if
you order it right when our show's over, your chicken
and mojos will arrive before first pitch. If you go
to Shakey's dot com, that's a free commercial for Shakey's.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Everybody, all right, we answer your question.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
To answer your question.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
Though, I don't know that he's out of Shaky's, but
he's definitely taking time off, and I believe he's going
to Chicago to.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Go watch his beloved Cubs play.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
At I've never been to Wrigleyfield. I've been outside.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
You gotta go.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
It's there's something different about that place when you go inside.

Speaker 14 (39:56):
You know, well, you know, it kind of fits into
our our top in the next segment about college football
tradition and something really stupid that Colin Cowherd throughout there
yesterday right before he talked to Bruce Feldman on this
very air.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
We will talk about it. The only time I've ever.

Speaker 14 (40:12):
Been to Chicago was for a Notre Dame trip when
I was in the media, USC versus Notre Dame and
I was still working for USC doing radio sideline at
the time.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
I think their quarterback.

Speaker 14 (40:23):
Was was either I think it was Liner LINERD and
Mike Williams, Big Mike Williams the receiver, and I spent
my three days in Chicago and went to Wrigleyville and
had a drink and all that. But that's the only
time I've ever been to the city. Sope Jonas has
a good time. You guys have much more extensive experience
in the Midway, I believe, even you LeVar right.

Speaker 8 (40:46):
Yeah, I mean we consider Pittsburgh at West, so.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
I mean, yeah, it's been Pittsburgh is Midwest.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
That's what some of us consider it.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Well, I mean, I will say this.

Speaker 14 (40:58):
When I started doing when West Virginia joined the Big
Twelve and I started going there maybe three times a year,
literally for years covering the Dana Holgerson teams, I could
not believe that Pittsburgh was like a seventy minute drive
from Morgantown and that you see Ohio on your way,
like you go by Steubenville, which is the home of

(41:20):
Dean Martin. That always kind of tripped me out about that.
And I used to do national radio on Fox Sports Radio,
but my brand is so.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Local that it moved us back to LA. So we'll
talk in to LA. Topic or two here, guys.

Speaker 14 (41:36):
That JJ Reddick stuff continues to develop, and it just feels.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Like they're waiting for him to get done with his TV.

Speaker 14 (41:43):
Career, and it also kind of feels like they're pumping
up the idea to make everybody use to the fact
that they're going to hire somebody very inexperienced. As this
thing plays out, it feels like a bit of a
FATA complete, does it not.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
That's one way of putting it right. Well, yeah, I
mean is that how you would put it? Well?

Speaker 14 (42:06):
Yes, I mean Bill Plashki came on our show, I
don't know, right after at some point when the Lakers
were eliminated and started talking about how Lebron James and
all this different stuff is just it's going to happen,
but we all have to go through the motions we
talked about it. I think yesterday on the show, and

(42:29):
he's coming back to the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
They're going to draft his kid. They're going to do
everything you want.

Speaker 7 (42:34):
Do you think they'll draft them? You don't think he'll
go on draft and then they sign him.

Speaker 14 (42:37):
I think that if he's there for their whatever it is,
fifty to fifth pick or whatever, I don't have it there.
I don't have the draft board in front of me.
They'll take him there and everybody's going to have to
swallow it. And it's upsetting. I guess the media manipulation
part of it really bothers me. The manipulation of one
of the great franchises in the history of sport, really

(43:00):
but I can't see myself getting inflamed about this every
day for the next two months while it plays itself
out and they're going to hire JJ Redick. He went
on that Massachusetts show. Insufferable show in Massachusetts, but very
popular Felger and Maz Have you ever heard of that?

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (43:17):
Yeah, I've actually had a buddy who lived in Boston.
He still listens to them to this day, even though
he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Live there anymore.

Speaker 14 (43:23):
Super chowderhead type of show, and JJ Reddick was extremely
condescending like.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
He always is.

Speaker 14 (43:29):
Did you guys hear that talking about the Celtics and
stuff like that?

Speaker 3 (43:33):
And I don't know.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (43:36):
If you go from hot take TV, which is not journalism,
it's not really anything, it's podcasting and just talking like
we're doing here, I don't know if you do that
and then go to coaching one of the great franchises
in the history of sport and having to face that.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I does think he's just a puppet though Petros. I
mean it feels like it's a done deal.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Yeah, you're a puppet. But you have to work, I
surompt to. You have to.

Speaker 14 (44:02):
You have to come up with things, you have to
say things, you have to deal with the media, you
got to deal with Lebron. You you got to deal
with things in the moment. You got to live it.
I guess I'll.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
Push back a little in the sense of I feel
like he could be a really good fit for everything
they're looking for.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
I do think j J. Well, you gets something.

Speaker 7 (44:19):
I'll put it simply, someone who Lebron can control and
probably someone who Lebron can work with at least for
the final moments of his career. And so if that's
the case, you've got someone that clearly he feels comfortable with,
someone that I think will handle the media, criticism, you know, adversity,
whatever comes along with it, He'll be able to handle it.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Well.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
I do think he's Do you think he deals with criticism, Well,
I do.

Speaker 7 (44:43):
I think he's. I think he takes things head on.
You might not agree with his opinion on things, but
I don't. I don't think he shies away from it.
I think he knows how to at least give you
his viewpoint and look like any coach, you're you're not
always going to agree with their opinion on something. But
the reality is, I think he's still gonna be able
to stand up there, take the you know, the bullets
that the comments that come his way. And I think

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the other thing is is I do think he's an
extremely hard worker. Like I don't think there's any concern
over him being able to work his tail off to
make it work. I just I wonder how much power
does he have. Like the hard part about him signing
up for this is it's obviously you can't say no,
Like that's the hard thing about having the Lakers country

(45:25):
because it's the Lakers, Like you're really the guy that
turned down the Lakers because you never know too if
they're ever gonna give you the opportunity to do it again.
Like that's the double edged sword. I think of any
of these amazing franchises where they throw it, they throw
a gut an opportunity to be the head coach. It's like, yeah,
I might go down in history as one of the
worst ever, but I also could be a successful head
coach of one.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Of the greatest franchises in history.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Lavarre's two.

Speaker 14 (45:49):
There's two kind of this is a two prong barbecue
fork of life.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
Right.

Speaker 14 (45:54):
If those of us that get done playing football, like
all of us did, some guys they go right into coaching.
Maybe if they were a great player, maybe if they
were a walk on, maybe anywhere in between. I know
a lot of guys like that. Chris Rashard was a
guy played with a corner at sc who went right
into coaching, you know, and then ended up becoming a

(46:15):
decordinator for the Dallas Cowboys for some time.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
I don't know where he is now. But the point.

Speaker 14 (46:20):
Is, isn't that what you do when you want to
get into coaching. You don't mess around on ESPN and
coach your kids team and do all that and then
dive into the pool of scorpions that is being the
head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
I mean, if you want to be a coach, be
a coach. I mean, I don't get it. I think
you got to go through to your point. I think
you have to go through the process of learning what
being a head coach is, right. I think that that's
why you go into it as an analyst, you know,
as you know, kind of a supportive type of position
because you're.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Or even like Steve Kerr who started in the front office, in.

Speaker 8 (47:00):
The front office, right, because you have to as the
head coach, you have to understand what everybody's doing. You know,
you have to understand what your scouts are doing. You
have to understand. Hell, you got to understand what the
media of your team and what they're doing and how
they're handling things. Who's leaking, right, Like if you got
leaky faucet's you gotta stop because you know, leaky faucet it.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Leads to a larger bill at the end of the month.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
It's just there's so many things that go into coaching
outside of the x's and o's, and I think a
lot of times that is misconstrued and it's not valued enough.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
Let me throw this out you guys, though, because I
feel like when I got done playing, to me, there's
levels of like the closeness to the thing that you loved.
And I don't know if you guys loved football or not,
I mean I did. It was awful, like having to
transition away from playing the.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Game that I had played for so many years and
grew to love.

Speaker 7 (47:55):
But there's coaching, which is the next closest thing, and
I did a couple of small things that kind of
helped me realize that, right, Like I coached in the
East West Shrine Game one year, and so I got
an idea of what that would be like slash how
nice it was to be around players and be you know,
be with them every day, kind.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Of coach them and all that.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
And then there's media, which is like probably the next
tier if you will, to playing, because you're around the sport,
you're watching the sport, you're talking about the sport, but
you're not as.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
In it, and everybody's a douche pretty much.

Speaker 7 (48:25):
But but at least for guys who like all played
together or played against each other or had played You do.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Have that common ground. So there's like the element of that.

Speaker 7 (48:35):
We don't change in the locker room together unless your
a NFL network, which I think LaVar was at one point,
so they had a locker room there.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
They're all changing it.

Speaker 14 (48:41):
That one special room at Fox, right off the Avocado
room where Terry Bradshawe and how we do their Peter
Gaze and.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Peter Games. I'll say this, I think LaVar has been
in there, any.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Of LeVar, Yeah, yeah, he's been in that room.

Speaker 14 (48:58):
Little Peter Games, the upper room, you know who used
to go in there and blow it out and not
flush the toilet just to make everybody angry. And Andy Roddick,
of all people, was the one who rooted him out
and discovered him and did the detective work. Chris Myers really,
oh yeah, I'm gonna go in here and da y'all
drop a doo say yaw. Yeah, he went and blew

(49:20):
it out, and how we would come in the next
day and be like he, I mean, that's that. That
was anyway, maybe a little bit of insight, so it
would sit there all night till the next Yeah, unless
somebody I'm.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Just brewing. I mean literally like a tea bag.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Just yeah, it was a terrible, terrible deal.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (49:39):
Now, my my my thought is I felt kind of
the same way Brady uh in that when I got
done playing, and maybe this is what made me so bitter.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
When I got done playing, I.

Speaker 14 (49:51):
Immediately went into the local media and immediately started to
cover the team that I played for. Uh, But it
was a different head coach. Pete Carroll took over that
I had gotten Paul Hackett fired, like I had gotten
John Robinson fined.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
So I'm like Lebron, I get coaches just dead.

Speaker 14 (50:09):
And so when Pete Carroll took over, I took over
as the USC kind of pre half and post guy.
And then I started doing sideline and until like two
thousand and four, I started doing national games. But it
was interesting, and maybe that's why I'm so bitter. I
like stayed on the same team plane for another four years,

(50:30):
which was not easy. And then I went into broadcasting,
calling games in the booth, and I was up in
the booth with a guy who was thirty years older
than me, who didn't like to go down on the
field and chopping up with the players as much because
he'd been doing games for forty years.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
So I did that for like ten years.

Speaker 14 (50:49):
And then suddenly there was a big shake up at
Fox and they hired Joel Klatt and they made me
Joel Klattz sideline analysts like Sarahgusa, and they wanted me
basically just to quit and not do it, but I
said I'll do it, and we ended up making a
success of it, and I hung on. But I really
did enjoy going back to the game in that way,

(51:10):
so to speak, right getting back on the sideline, even
though everybody made fun of me and called me a
sideline girl and all that. I who called you a
sideline Aaron Andrews sure got ugly, you know, it was
a lot of that.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Someone actually said that to you someone.

Speaker 14 (51:29):
But I will say this, I got back down onto
the field for a few years, and you smell the smells,
you know, you feel what it's like to stand with the.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Guys on the sideline. You hear them talk.

Speaker 14 (51:41):
And the most glaring thing to me, and this happened
to me the other year when I did the Mountain
West Championship with Brando and Spencer, is you look through
the face masks and they're kids, you know, I mean,
they are kids, and it's hard to remember that because
they're like robots, and fantasy football and video games has

(52:02):
dehumanized all of the players. But they are young people
and to get back into it in that way was
really cool. But that didn't give me the delusions of
being like, Okay, now I'm going to install Zone right now,
I'm to install why Stick, and I'm going to do
bedcheck and I'm going to smoke cigarettes with the tight
end coach on the roof of the dorm, Like do

(52:24):
you know what I'm saying, Brady.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
Like, I do it, But I think I would look
at it from a different perspective too, is it's the
sacrifice that you're going to have to make to coach,
because if you are a family man, you want to
have a family, You're not gonna be raising your kids.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
You'll be raising someone else's.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
And that's that was what kind of was steering me
dead in the face when I started having kids and
started pondering, you know, could the opportunity of coaching be
out there?

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Sure, but like, how was that going to work with
my family life?

Speaker 14 (52:52):
Well, well, LaVar, you got into coaching because of your kid, right,
or were you doing it before?

Speaker 8 (52:57):
No, Antonio Piers got me into coach. I had been
doing mentorship and development for a lot of years. You
for a little while I was.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
I was.

Speaker 8 (53:07):
I ended up coaching and and thought about turning it
into it when he went to ASU, I thought about
going there and continuing to grow within the coaching ranks.
But well, yeah, but for me, I just I you know,
I wanted to coach at a time. Now that I

(53:30):
stopped coaching, I don't know how I did coach. You know,
the amount of time that you have to commit to it.
And again, the politics that are connected to being a
coach and the things you have to handle, and you
got so many different bullets flying. There's so many different
directions back to kind of the original point of it.
With the JJ Reddick aspect of it, is he even

(53:51):
ready politically to be able to handle it? It's like
being in politics coming to be the head coach of
the Lakers.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
Is he able?

Speaker 8 (53:59):
Is he going to the type of personality that he has,
Is he even going to be able to handle you know,
the media and the way people come his way, because
he could turn some people off very quickly with the
way he does have kind of a very very intelligent
but yet condescending approach to how he communicates with people.

Speaker 14 (54:19):
Well, it's a little like Corolla and Jimmy Kimmel. Right,
everybody's going to run to the opposite spectrum and there's
not going to be any middle ground except for reasonable
people like us. But if you if you are in
the Clutch world and you're one of these twelve or
fifteen media people that Rich Paul calls, right, and they

(54:40):
all say it like it's so stupid. They start out
their statement, well, I think this about Brawny, I think this,
this this about Lebron, and I think this this about
JJ Reddick. And I talked to Rich Paul earlier today.
It's like, well, okay, thanks, great, that's all propaganda. So
I guess he'll feel protected under that umbrella of those
twelve guys, right, Sham Sharania, the fat guy on ESPN,

(55:05):
the maybe uh Chiny or whoever she is, the lady
on the NBA, Ramona. You know they're all gonna they're
all gonna sing from the Clutch Sports hymnal because that's
their group. And then there's gonna be the naysayers, like
the people that don't get the clutch sports stuff like
WOJ and all that, and we're all just gonna be

(55:28):
caught in this black and white media firestorm of BS.
So maybe JJ feels politically protected, I guess would be
my answer going into it, even though I'm sure Darvin
Ham felt that way until they had him fired, And
he's already felt that way before they had him fired.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
He's already sound like a staff though.

Speaker 7 (55:46):
At least and if those names are coming out as
far as you could potentially be on a staff, would
you say to Field.

Speaker 8 (55:52):
Right, he's gonna bring in like he brings in Krzyzewski witting.
I got a lot of confidence that he can put
together to stretch laders like Jerry Budley's name was.

Speaker 7 (56:00):
On there, which might be one of the reasons too,
outside of his broadcast obligations, Mike.

Speaker 14 (56:05):
Krzyzewski is going to risk his legacy by be sitting
on JJ Reddick's bench and getting destroyed by the drawn.

Speaker 5 (56:12):
Yeah, because he's been in the house.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Because he's thirsty.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Yeah, he's been in the house. I mean he's ready
to get up out of that house.

Speaker 7 (56:19):
I heard it was Sam Gassel, Jared Dudley the brego
is that you pronounced the other guy who was up
for the job. I mean, it sounds like like some
of those guys could end.

Speaker 14 (56:28):
Up being the guys that all the NBA types actually
wanted hired because they sit there and have put in
the work and realized the day to day logistics of it. Well,
we solve the world's problems there, Lee to lap. Your
producer is telling me to go to break. So we're
going to come back and we're going to lament the
state of college football and sound like more angry old
people talking about the way things aren't today.