August 5, 2024 • 49 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington react to the pole-vault fail seen around the world. Joe Milton is overtaking Drake Maye in New England. Jon Gruden is helping out in Kansas City. Davante Adams weighs in on the Raiders QB competition and much more! Plus, the Old P, Petros Papadakis gives his reaction to the Olympics so far.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Whole Volte Day he blamed it on the pole vote. Yeah,
we we do have an update.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
There's two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm Britty Quinn. That's LeVar Arrington. No choice knocks for
this week.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
You know, suspended on p D volations, so I don't
know about that, but we do.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
We do have an update. One LeVar Arrington has found
the clip of the was he French or Italian? Look
looked like he's French.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
French French with an Italian last name, so a little
confusing there, but yeah, I did.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Find the video clip.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Now, I tried to point out to Lee he wasn't
getting over regardless because he clipped the bar with his
calf or knee whatever, and then as subsequently was insults
and injury with hitting his junk.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Is that fair to.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Say he did hit it with his first right like
there was no chance I was gonna stay on it
might have. It might have stayed on like sometimes you
can touch it, You can touch it and it will
it probably you're probably right. It probably would have bounced
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off it like compressed it. It probably would have bounced off.
But I mean, but his his What were you saying,
remember his friend?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I said, junk?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, the best if I was in that, if I
was in that position, by the way, and if you want,
I mean I can, I can go ahead and go
through a little play by play if you will, Yeah,
let's do the play.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
What was the guy's name again, I'maradi? Was his last name? Anthony,
Anthony Amuradi.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
There you go, as I said, if it's an Italian
last name, you throw Anthony in the front, nine times
out of ten, you're.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Gonna probably hit right.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
So so here we are at the twenty twenty four
Paris Olympic Games as Anthony Almaradi is preparing for his
pole vault. Now this is his last and final attempt
to try to advance into the next round.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
And here goes Anthony.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
He's got the height, he gets oh, and he comes
to oh, oh, my goodness, the crowd, ladies and gentlemen.
His legs, his legs got in the way of that one.
He will not qualify to be able to place. However,
the entire world has now been put on notice as
far as what Anthony is carrying in his pants.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
So Anthony is probably overnight sex symbol in his country.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's all I'm gonna say. Good for you, Anthony.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
You might not have won the gold medal in the Olympics,
but you are now.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
A celebrity in the real Wor does this do.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
More for French, the French or the Italians given the
he's an Italian guy living in France.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
That's a great question. Q, It's a great question. I
think they both will get credit. I think they certainly
will both get credit. But but Anthony himself has boosted himself,
has grown in popularity. I'm sure has exploded in popularity
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after this viral video of him failing. I mean, who
becomes famous off of failing?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, that's that's that's a great, great question. Good point.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I will also point out that the Olympics, Okay, I'm
glad someone's proud of him. The Olympics are actually started
back up. A lot of live events going on right now.
The women's gymnastics beam competition is going on. Simone Biles
is about ready to go. She will be last night events.
She's actually got a bronze the past couple Olympics she's
never gotten al this is setting up really well for
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her to win her first gold on the beam at
the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
But I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I didn't want to point out one speaking of their
growing popularity, one of the girls I believe she was
competing for Brazil as women's gymnastics or gymnasts. She had
started off they were sending her Instagram account. It started
off with like maybe twenty thirty some thousand followers. She
has over two million, over two million, just from the
(04:28):
exposure in the Olympic Games. Think about that, How crazy
that would be.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
But her because seriously, I mean, if you figure if
those are real followers, she's now monetizable and that that's right.
You know, that's an interesting topic. Q coming out of
all of this is that guy Anthony probably if he
has social media, he's probably probably in the millions now.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Too, right, But he might be also a part of
some of those spam, you know, things that go out there.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Oh but you get a blue chery coming up, So yeah,
I do, I do, I definitely do. But you know,
it's it's interesting that in the past you're you're probably
monetizing as as a successful olympian through you know, appearances,
you know, speaking engagements and stuff like that. But now
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you're talking about if you get that followership across your
your platforms of social media, you know the advertisers are
going to monetize you and and it's much more You
would have to assume there's much more opportunity to be
lucrative in post Olympic success than what it ever has period,
(05:43):
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So that's interesting thought. It is interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
You've always been a big, one, big advocate for social media.
On the other hand, not so much. And I do
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Speaker 4 (06:08):
Let's get some training camp updates.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
We talked in the first hour about whether or not
the Brown should play to Shaun Watson.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
A little different conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
When it's a veteran who you've seen produce on the field,
maybe not in Cleveland so much, but in Houston you
have in comparison to a rookie, and in this case
Jadeen Daniels, the presumed to be starting quarterback for the
Washington Commandos. He will be getting the start in the
preseason versus the Jets. This was really no surprise for
those that I think, no dan Quinn, They're a new
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head coach and how he operates. However, it is in
contrast to what we saw from the Bears, which granted
Hall of Fame game, did not start the number one
overall pick Caleb Williams. Is this how you would you
think things should be done? Like, if this is going
to be your guy, even though he's a rookie, he
still needs to get out there and get some live
reps in to adjust to the speed of the game.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Is that fair in your mind level? Yes? Yes? Why
not get the man some reps?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
I'm still I am still trying to figure out and
understand why do you not get him a few game reps?
I mean, this is a rookie, so he's never played
in a National Football League game before ever in his life.
He doesn't know what that feels like, he doesn't know
what that looks like. His body doesn't know, his mental
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doesn't know. And whether or not you're playing against starters
or not, don't you want to give this guy an
opportunity immediately to say, you know what, I got it
out of my system. I got onto the field, I
played a couple downs, it felt good, I got out
of there, like building from it moving on. I just
think that it's overstated the whole like, and I know
(07:50):
you're on the offense side of the ball and you
are quarterback, so you could tell me I'm wrong, But
the whole idea of you're like, I'm holding you out
because you're going to get injured.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think it's an overstated conversation. I do.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I think for veterans it's different. When you've got a
guy who's solidified, there's really no need, I think, in
my mind nowadays to put him in in harm's way
a lot. I agree, by the way, I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with that in this case. To your point
that at every step, every step of the way, for rookies,
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there is a transition to the speed of the game.
We always talk about that topic of speed of the game.
When you first get to practice, there's an adjustment period.
You're usually indoctrinated through a rookie mini camp, and so
at the rookie mini camp, you know everyone is an
NFL caliber player. That's why they're there at the rookie
mini camp. They have a shot of being a part
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of it, or they are going to be a part
of it. So you adapt to kind of what that
speed looks like as opposed to playing college, where you've
got some really good college players, maybe some greats, but
they're not going to play at the NFL level, So
there's an adjustment period. Just then then the veterans show
up and things get a lot faster. Things, you know,
it becomes much more difficult in those competitive periods because
(09:08):
you've got veteran guys who are trying to make the
team and try to keep their jobs, and then they
let you know about it. So that's that's a whole
different speed to it. And then you get to the
preseason when they're actually being graded on this stuff. And
so to your point, like with every step of the way,
the game gets faster, as I kind of describe it
to people, it gets more efficient. Like one of the
(09:30):
things that I've always appreciated about watching older veteran players
and even like studying them on defense is oftentimes the
older defensive players that have played forever, they don't take
false steps. Bro, when there's a counter or a misdirection play,
they're not they're not falling for it. They're disciplined with
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what they're reading. They're disciplined in their keys, and they're
they're not going to be persuaded by something.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
They're following the rules and doing what they're supposed to
be doing.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I was explaining this very thing at the practice, and
my steps were quicker. Today. My steps were quicker. I'm
standing out and that's the difference. Like, right, I'm standing
people there. People don't understand that. Right, I'm sitting there
with the backers and I'm like, all right, stand with
me and watch it. Give me your first steps, right,
give me your first steps. We're watching the run drill.
(10:22):
Give me your first steps. I'm standing in my stands
there and there stands and I'm like, here's what you
gotta be keying. And we're going through the key reads,
the progression of the read going from the center, go
from the center to wherever the center goes, wherever his
first step is. Now, my eyes, my eyes go to
that guard. Right, my eyes go to that guard. Whatever
that guard does is going to tell me what my
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steps are going to be. So we're doing the reads.
I'm telling them to trust the reads, and I'm taking
the steps with them.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
And my steps were quicker.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
And it's crazy because now now let's not get carried
away if I had to continue to run, that's where
it's right. But the first two steps I used to
one of the quickest first step dudes was Mike Barrow
his step and he was one of the smartest football players.
Him and Antonio Peers two of the more smarter dudes
(11:14):
I had ever been around in terms of just diagnosing
and understanding what everybody everything going on out there. But
Michael Barrow's first step was tremendous. It like it was
almost like I was envious of it. But you're one
hundred percent right, man. I always tell people, I say,
you want to if I could try to give the
best way of describing it, a high school a high
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school game is the equivalent of a college practice speed wise,
so you gotta be at game speed. I tell my
son this, you gotta start practicing at game speed in
practice now, because that's that's practice speed in college. When
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you get to a PROS game speed of a of
a college game is the practice speed of a pro practice,
So you have to be prepared to move as quickly
and as fast as you're moving with your eyes, with
your body that you are in a in a college game,
in a practice at the pro level and not to me,
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and and if you can get your your head wrapped
around the fact that it is literally that much faster,
like whoa, because that's the first thing I recognized when
I was when I was at when I went pro.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Even when I went to college, it's like, this is fast.
It's fast. Then it got faster in pros.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
It's like, you gotta get your head wrapped around the
fact that how are you so much faster?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
How is it so much faster?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
And you're right, a lot of it has to do
with the mental aspect of how guys are reading and
what they're looking at and what's going on at the
pro level.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So yeah, they're there more efficient and there's no false steps.
And the last thing is the what you kind of
pointed on, is they're more decisive in what they're doing,
you know, And I think you can see that in
every walk of life. When someone is efficient or able
to get a lot done, whether it's in work or
their personal life, what have you. Usually they know exactly
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what they're looking for, they know exactly what they're doing,
how to do it, and that's in an essence, what
becomes pro football, because that's your job.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
In college there's elements of that too, you see players
who do that. Sometimes it's more related to talent, but
when you get to the NFL, talent's equated, and so
it's all guys who they know what they're supposed to do,
they know how to do it, and they're going to
do it in a very efficient manner in fashion. So
that's typically how it works. But not to get off
on a huge tangent. I don't think you and I
are surprised by Jade Daniel starting, nor the fact that
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he probably should be in this case, just to get
him out there, just to get him adjusted to that
speed and talking about another quarterback. I don't want to
call it a controversy or even competition, but it was
interesting that Drod mayoled the head coach for the New
England Patriots and Elliot Wolf they're now title general manager
for the New England Patriots.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Drafted two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think everyone when they saw Drake May get taken
a number three overall, they thought, Okay, this is their
guy for the foreseeable future, to follow in the footsteps
of you know what, was a number of quarterbacks after
Tom Brady so far, but in particular Mac Jones, who
was a first round pick. That being said, Joe Milton,
their sixth round pick, the quarterback who was originally at
(14:27):
Michigan transferred to Tennessee where he finished his career. He's
stole on the show and look, this was low hanging
fruit for me talking about a lot of the draft prospects,
and I was very high on Joe Milton because the
NFL game is very different from the college game in
this sense where when you have you can be a
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player in my opinion, that has one or two things
you do extraordinarily well, like better than any human being
on the plane, or one of the best human being.
That talent, that extraordinary skill will get you a shot
at the professional level. Like you and I both know
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a lot of players who played probably at the college level,
who were really good and all around really good, probably
didn't have too many holes in their game. However, when
it came down to it, they probably weren't one of
the fastest guys. They probably weren't the strongest guy. They
had a combination of skills and ability that led them
to succeed at that level, but when they went to
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the pro level, no extraordinary talent that was unable to
be stopped. And Joe Milton has walking into the NFL
one of the strongest arms. I mean, I've said this
to people, and even combined with his size, his athleticism,
he is the complete package of tools that you would
(15:50):
want a quarterback to have. With the one exception, that's
the fact that he was one of those guys who
played a long time in college or was in I
should say a long time in college, but never had
that breakout season where you go, oh, there, it is
like that was what I was hoping for, that thirty
plus touchdown season, you know, throwing for over you know,
three thousand and thirty five, whatever the case is, as
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far as yards. It really wasn't until his final year
at Tennessee in a system that seemed conducive, two quarterbacks
putting up numbers, and obviously he came short of of
you know, what was done previously under Hender Hendon Hooker
for example, and some of the others that we'd seen
in that system, and I think Tennessee fans were somewhat
disappointed with with his level of play just in the
(16:35):
final year, but he's been the guy turning heads. Like
a lot of people have said at who have attended
the New England Patriots training camp that you would not
think that Drake May was the guy taking number three overall,
that it was Joe Milton at Stead instead, who stands
at six foot five, two hundred and forty five pounds
with a howitzer for an arm.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I mean, do you think.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
There should be an open competition at that point or
is this way too early spec as to what things
are going.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
To look like.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Well, I mean he's twenty four and Drake May's twenty one,
so I would assume him having a little bit more
age and time under his belt that coming into it,
he would have a little bit more of an advantage
just from the.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Standpoint of you know, he's older. But but is it
too early?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I don't think it's ever too early, because the one
thing that we always talk about is time. You don't
have time. You don't get to come in and get
what Jordan Love was able to get. You don't get
that type of time. So if you are are in
Drake May's situation, you got to be stepping up what
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it is that you're doing because you are the top pick.
You are the one that they're looking at to be
the next guy. And if you're Milton, you're saying, listen,
I'm coming in. I know I'm behind the top draft pick,
so I had better be making plays and doing things
that are phenomenal. With all those things being said, though, Q,
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I think you and I both know we've seen enough
football through the years to know I've seen dudes in
training camps outplay veterans, hid and shoulders outplayed them in
the preseason and in training camp, and they got cut.
They did not not just make the team, they got
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cut from the team. So to me, when I hear
a story like this, the first thing I go to
is how valued is Drake made to this organization. If
it's if they're valuing him at the draft pick that
he's at, he's going to get the benefit of the
doubt the entire time until that benefit of the doubt
is probably kind of run its course, and that's having
(18:54):
a losing season and he either can't get onto the
field to play or he's on the field and that
isn't doing well. But otherwise he's going to get the
benefit of the doubt right now, just based upon the
position he was drafted in, and Milton is going to
find himself on on that roster, he'll solidify a roster
(19:14):
spot or he'll get his opportunity to go play somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Well, He's gonna be a guy for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
We got to keep an eye on throughout the course
of the preseason because I would assume both we'll get
a lot of reps and I think a lot of
people are gonna be wow by what Joe Milton is
capable of doing, giving his talents and his rare skill set.
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Speaker 3 (20:17):
I guess maybe more surprising as the way to describe it.
Former head coach in the NFL is on the Kansas
City chief sideline helping out during training camp, and that
is one John Gruden, who most recently was a head
coach for the Las Vegas Raiders before being dismissed. So
a bit surprising, but not so much when you actually
(20:39):
look at the track record in history between Andy Reid,
the head coach for the Chiefs, and John Gruden. They
actually coached back together on Mike Holmgren's offensive staff in
Green Bay in the nineteen nineties, so when you take
into account that, it kind of makes some sense. And
this actually isn't John Gruden's first stint helping out an
(21:02):
NFL team last season. In fact, John Gruden was a
consultant for the New Orleans Saints, so he was involved
with that team. Then he's been involved, you know, back
as an advisor in the world of football and with
an Italian football team, the Milano Seamen of the European
League Football, which is a new startup league over there, however,
(21:24):
so you know, he's he's been a part of this
getting back into football. And remember obviously Gruden, who was
you know, coach the Raiders, coached the Tampa Bay Bucks
most famously to that Super Bowl back in two thousand
and two, still boasting over you know, five games, over
five hundred career record as a head coach, but as
well regarded around a lot of league circles and coaching staff.
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So this isn't a surprise from that standpoint. It's more
the fact that he was kind of dismissed and moved
on and now he's back and there's really no formal
announcement about it.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah, I think it was a scapegoat situation with with
John Grutin for what was going on in Washington, which
is interesting how everything kind of panned out and played
out and whatever side people fall on on the fallout
of the emails getting released and some of the information
that became you know, public knowledge about John Gruden. There
(22:21):
are a lot of people and and noted, both black
and white and and you know other that have spoke
very very glowingly of John Gruton and who he is
and disputing the fact that he should be judged and
measured and weighed by being you know what, people considered
(22:44):
him to be a racist. As far as professionally speaking,
I think his resume speaks for itself obviously, and and
to have his his his wisdom and his knowledge connected
to the game and the sport, I mean he he
(23:05):
kind of revolutionized how television analysts went about their work
in terms of breaking down, you know, what what players
were doing specifically maybe particularly you know what the quarterbacks
were doing. So within you know, within the football world
Q it's no surprise that he continues to be utilized
(23:29):
and used because just like most other things, when it's internal,
it's it hits different. When it's external, it definitely is
perceived and seen differently. So people who know, they know,
people who don't know, they will assume and they'll think
whatever it is that they're going to think. But but
(23:49):
from all things that that you know, from the inside
and the internal aspects of it, there are a lot
of people that that bang with John Gruden, and and
so for him having that opportunity and working with the chiefs,
obviously those guys go back to the home Gren I
do believe, if my my memory serves me correctly, both
(24:10):
Andy and and John.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Were with home Grin. Yeah I just mentioned that. Yeah, okay, okay, good, okay,
thank you. I'm I mean remember, serve you correct Yeah, okay,
thank you, thank you. Sometimes I don't know yeah, yeah, okay,
there you go.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
I mean sometimes I don't listen to what you be
saying though, But anyway, I listen to most of it.
But sometimes I just kind of start thinking about, Okay,
I heard what he said. Let me let me try
to figure out what I'm gonna say. And I might
have missed that part. Uh, but but yeah, so so
thank you. Thank you for that confirmation of four minutes ago.
My memory serving me correctly. But yeah, I mean, those guys,
(24:49):
those guys have an affinity for one another. And as
if they couldn't get any more active and making you know,
Patrick mahomes bad, are making their offense better, the offensive schemes,
you know, ways of approaching it.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Uh. They've built a juggernaut.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
They've they've developed a machine there and in Kansas City.
And good for them for giving, you know, giving a
guy like John gruden an opportunity. So many times we
talk about other things and other people and we say
they there should be some some grace and there should
be the opportunity of redemption or whatever it may be.
(25:31):
It should be no different in this situation, you know.
And so him having that opportunity to continue to work
and make things better where he's at, I think that's
a that's wow, that's that's something serious right there, to
have home grin and I mean not homegrin, but have
have Andy Reid and John Gruden together working together that way.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, Now do you think it was a rapid decision
that Andy Reid made when wanting to bring in John Gruden.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
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(26:20):
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Oh perfect.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
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(27:27):
which has nothing to do with this next topic I
want to touch on.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
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I did? I got the link. Okay, yep, got the link. Okay,
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you got.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Devanta Adams he's been weighing heavily on the QB battle
there in Las Vegas, and I wanted to bring this
up specifically.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
To you because I'd be curious to gets your thoughts.
You know, I'm that QB battle.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I mean, obviously Devantae Adams is the number one receiver,
one of the best in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
He's going to have a pretty good idea as to
what's happening.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Who's you know, maybe in the best pole position, as
I think you would say, But I'm just I'm just
saying you might have some inside information as to who
would be in the best pole position there in Las
Vegas for the quarterback competition.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I don't, I do not. This is all I know
just from what I can gather. All I know is
is that O'Connell is the guy that was doing what
he was doing, and seemingly because he finished the season
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out with them and they did not bring in even
though they paid you know, Minshew more money, it seems
as though there's maybe the idea that he's going to
be the guy and that mint you is going to
back him up.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I mean, but.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
See, I don't I don't want to be like in
say in terms because I don't want it to come
back on him. I don't want to come back on
me that I said it. All I know is this,
and I think this is common knowledge. They did not
get a quarterback this offseason that they feel like they're
gonna win with, like this is their quarterback of the future.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
So whoever it is, Q.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It's kind of like pick your poison on which one
is going to bias time until we get to a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And to me, that's my interpretation of it.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
So they're in a bridge situation basically till the twenty
twenty five draft.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Which I think, so which I mean, is there a
guy in the draft? It might be free agency. Yeah,
maybe that's true. I mean, it might be free agency.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Dak Prescott that situation in Dallas. But the hard part
is is it would almost have to be free agency
and you'd have to pulling up the funds to want
to pay a guy in the free agency because if
AP and the rest of the rators want to have
a successful season, you're not gonna be in a position
to really go up and get a guy, which they
kind of found out this year getting left out empty
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handed on the rookie quarterback draft sweepstakes.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
So that's the unfortunate part is you can't do both.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You can't go out and win and be successful and
be a playoff team then have a chance to get
one of the top quarterbacks and next year's draft that
just doesn't work out that well.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
And then that kind of comes to the point of
what do you how do you keep a guy like
Devonte Adams happy? You know, because he is he still
has that he still has that ability to be a
top top player in the game. But if you don't
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have a guy that can deliver the ball to him,
And then another aspect of it is is he came
there because of his close friend and car and he's
not there anymore. How do you how do you make
him feel confident about wanting to stay Because if you
ask me, if I'm looking at the way this team
is built up, I'm saying, I'm going to play tremendous
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defense and I'm going to run the ball. So my
past concepts will be very simple. So if you're not
able to get DeVante Adams the ball in very simple
pass concepts and give him the ability to or him
have the ability to turn you know, quick catchable, quick
game types of passing game into yards after the catch,
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You're probably not going to see a very very happy
Davante Adams because they're going, they're going they're gonna have
to run the ball. They're gonna have to run the ball,
play defense, run the ball, and you're probably gonna see
even you know, with the way they're they're configured in
here in LA with the Chargers, you're probably going to
see a run first team in the Chargers as well.
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You know, So that same type of mentality what what
Harball did in at Michigan in the college level, He's
probably going to do the same exact thing, or at
least attempt to do it in the prosy. I think
that that's what Antonio Pierce is going to do with
his team as well. Establish a strong running game where
can make it simpler for whichever one it is, whether
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it's O'Connor or whether it's it's Minshew, make it easier
for them in the passing game by having a strong
running game.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
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Speaker 4 (32:37):
All right, doing Friday, Pops.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, you guys have some kind of other plan on Friday.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Originally I was supposed to do Friday, but you guys
have another plan, which is fine with me.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I'm never a part of those plans. I just do
the show. But that's interesting. I thought you were just
bailing out.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
On this on front.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
No, no, no, but you know, I do like to
be because I'm going to be here for a significant
amount of significant four fifths of the week. I would
like to ask I like to build a bit of
a foundation before we launch into the week of sports
talk radio here on the national level on Fox Sports Radio,
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which is a great responsibility and privilege that I don't
take lightly, very serious, nice and I need to build
a foundation of just what's going on. So I do
need to know what everybody's been I heard about Lee's
weekend was just riveting in the last segment. Glad I
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got on early there, But I do LeVar, what was
your weekend? Like, what are you coming off? I know
you were in State College over the weekend. Maybe I'm
LeVar Man, you know what I mean. That's that's the
one thing that I love about State College Pa. I'm
not mister Errington. I'm not a like you know, who's
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that guy or whatever. I'm Leavar And that's I always
enjoy that when I go to State College Pee, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Right, So you were there, yeah, being LeVar, I wasn't
being I mean, I am LeVar, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
It's just really cool.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Like I was telling my wife, I'm like, you know,
you can go a whole lot of places in the
world no one ever know who you are or this,
that and the other.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
And I was like, I'm Leavar, and you know, in
State it's funny being the captain of the USC football team.
Even when when way back in the nineties and I played,
when you played.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Nobody knew me.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Like it's l like, you know what I mean, And
if you were here, no one would know you either.
I mean you were you were a thousand times, you know.
I always have to imagine that, right, Yeah. I've always
talked about it, and I always talked about it with
people that are like you and not I mean, you're
one of the more recognizable college football players, both of
you guys, really in the last thirty years. So I'm
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always trying to qualify what I say to you or
how I say it, or how I try to relate
with you guys, because you guys were legitimately famous football
players and I was like a short yardage tailback on
really bad USC teams. But that being said, I was
a captain of the football team, and I did do
a lot of media, and I spent time with football
players that were a lot more famous and recognizable than me,
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like Carson Palmer and Troy and you could take them
anywhere in LA and not a damn person would know
who they were.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
See, you know, that's a great recruit.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
So all the recruits out there, why the hell would
you go to USC? You could go to state college.
You could go to state college. And it's like cheers.
Every other person is like, hey, LeVar. Like I'm walking
down the street, people rolling down the windows, what's up, LeVar,
Like I'm sitting at the restaurant. Everything good, LeVar. Like
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it's they're not intrusive, they're not overbearing, they're.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Just just wrecked.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Like there's LeVar, like, I think it's the coolest thing.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm I mean, I think it's wonderful too. Go ahead, Brady,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Now, I was just gonna say I'd hope they'd recognize you.
They're in Happy Valley. It's not a very big place.
I mean, Petro's just pointing out the fact that Los
Angeles is like the second biggest city in the country,
so it's a little easier to think for some of
the guys to get lost in the mixt.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Okay, I think it's like, the bottom line is, no
matter what the reason is, if Petros as the captain
of the team, or Troy Polamalu or Chris Claiborne. I mean,
I'm sure Reggie Bush kind of, I'm sure they know
the Reggie.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Bush liner thing was interesting and we'll get into that.
But okay, you're you're right. I mean I used to
tell people on their recruiting trips to USC like, listen,
you go to Tennessee, the water Boys getting laid out
of here if you ain't some producer's son or one
of these frat boys and a beamer are with us
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shooting dice below Vermont. You know, spring football nobody's here.
You know, we didn't go to Hollywood. And that's the
one thing that I talk a lot to players that
are my age and USC types. You know, we we
were a South central Los Angeles football team and that's
where we hung out and we did stuff that people
did in south central LA.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
We're banging well and not well.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
I learned to say I don't bang really early in
my you know what I'm saying, though, Like.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You don't learn that in Manhattan, Kansas.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
You know, it holds up on you start set tripping
in Manhattan, Kansas. But if you're USC football and you're
walking home and and you were on the wrong street, somebody,
as a white guy from the Midwest, help me understand
how quickly you came to the conclusion.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
That you needed to learn to say I don't bang.
And then at the same time, is there a way
you have to go about saying that?
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Well, somebody says, where are you from? And you know,
you don't excuse me, excuse me saying you know, I
don't bang. You have to say that quick. You know,
we would have guys that, you know, really recognizable star
football players like Daylon McCutcheon. You know, they played like
ten years in the NFL in your state, Brady, and
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they'd say, you know, take off your hat and be like, okay,
take it out, you know, like and those are certain
streets you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
That's the area of the school is in though, correct,
But it's.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Not that way.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
It's not.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
I mean, it's kind of that way, but it's not
really that way anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
When liner.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
So, the one thing I talk about a lot with
players that are my age is none of us could
be in college now because we were all criminals, you know,
to a certain degree. You know, some some worse than others.
But we were literally all breaking the law on a
daily basis in one way and every NCAA rule in
one way or the other right, and I mean we
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were and they got bad guys, literal bad guys that
people would qualify into school back then because you could
and it wasn't right, but that's but you did.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
And now it's just not that way. So we just
talk about how soft everybody is.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
Like it really kind of fits into the Colorado story
from yesterday, right. You read the thing about the Applon
story about Dion, and you know, when you have that
much turnover and you upset as many people as Dion
has in the short time that he's been in Colorado.
These kinds of stories and gotcha pieces and stuff are inevitable,
and everybody's going to have their own take on it.
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But when I read that stuff, you know what it
read luck to me, LeVar, it sounded like that's when
I play.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
You know, It's sounds like something that I would you know.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Hear about or see in person at USC in the nineties,
and it feels like that's what's being cultivated over there.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Well, all I'll say, I'll go back to this. It
was it's always an honor and a pleasure to be
a Penn State and ending.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I kiss my right so I have to say it
the right way. So this isn't true. We already went
through this.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
I take, I kiss my hand, I kneel down, and
I touched the ground at the airport every single time
I touch down in State College because of how thankful
I am to stay college.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I mean, it's it's an amazing place.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Do you see yourself retiring there, LeVar?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
No, I never want to live there. Okay, I would
never want to live there.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
It's just just I could live there while it's warm
out and I could be there consistently, which I will
be there for every home game this year. But I
wouldn't want to live there all year round. I could
have a home there. I'm contemplating getting a home there, Pete,
but I don't want to live there all year.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
I can't do snow anymore, people, I can't do snow
ever again.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Brady, do you kiss your hand and touch the ground
whenever you land in South Bend? No, I don't have
a private airport.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I actually I drive in probably more than anything else.
So that would also be weird because it'd be more
like a parking lot at like a hotel there, so
it feels a little different.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
I do what.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Exactly exactly it'd be like there would be like gum,
you know, like six inches away from where I'm like
bending over to kiss the ground.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
The uh I do want to point out too.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
For the longest time, we had all envisioned and it's
not just myself, this is like listeners everyone else that
when LeVar would step foot off the plane, most like
a United flight because they have the most connections into
State College.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
I believe that he was.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Bending over like as soon as he walks off the
little you know, jet bridge deal. He's bending over to
kiss the ground, like lips to the ground.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
No, I don't put my lips on it.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I know, and we we we actually brought this out
of him at some point.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
It's like, no, I don't. I don't do that. You know.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
I kissed my head. But I'm buried down. I am
kneel down, I'm sit down.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
I've seen a lot of people do that arriving in Greece.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Greek. Yeah, they get down and stay college is my Greece.
Can I ask a question to yes.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
We We actually touched on a topic earlier today in
regards to the Olympics that I did notice.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
That that's your weekend, right, you just came back from France.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
No, it was. I was there earlier last week, like
middle of last.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
It's pretty significant, Like, you know, the farthest I get
is like thousand oaks.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeah, but you've been to Greece. You you go there off.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
I used to travel more.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
I've become quite a gooraphobic and much less adventurous as
in the Middle Age.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I can understand that. Trust me.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
After spending what was an entire day essentially in an
airport or an airplane or getting to an airport.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Shot the gaul.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yes, that's right, old Chucky. A lot of stuff going
on there.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
But I digressh you didn't mention something in one of
your tweets about a puzzo getting in the way of
the polo.
Speaker 7 (42:52):
Dude, this is the Olympic because of puzzo? Is it
not Olympics? It totally. It's all puzso all the time.
There is This is not a significant coincidence that the
French like Nike brand is called let Cock Sportif and
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it's the freaking rooster let Cock sportif. Look at uys
coo u q let cock a sportif, and it's all
poots all day. That the thing starts all day. The
thing starts with a bearded guy with boobs and a poots. Right,
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what is the most ceremony then?
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Is the most distracting event.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
The dirty puzza well, volleyball, my god.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
Then you had the dirty puzzo river, you have the
boxing Puzzo's that they have a puzzo?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Do they not have a puzzu?
Speaker 4 (43:51):
They were born with a puzzo.
Speaker 7 (43:52):
And then you have them the puzzo that hits the pole.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
It's like, what's next?
Speaker 4 (43:59):
What is new? You know?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
You got somebody with their sack out like that?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Is there's pole voter a hero? Now? Is it a
national hero? Now? Well?
Speaker 7 (44:08):
I think well, you know it's it's different in Europe.
You know, some people think a gigantic member is I'm
not fashionable.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Oh, which is.
Speaker 7 (44:17):
Why the David has over there. So you're saying I'm
not saying they do that. I'm just saying, you know,
that's why the David it looks the way it does.
You know what I mean, A large poots was not
always seen as fashionable. It might have been seen as
kind of.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Uh like freakish, yes, yeah, like freak ships.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
I take it correct, or just an excuse for yeah,
you know, things change, seasons change, you know, people change.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
So uh, I just I'm enjoying the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
I don't have like some weird hot take about anything
other than the fact that because it's France and it
would probably it wasn't this way in Greece, but but
it could be because we're obviously distracted by this. But
because it's France, it's almost completely and totally a sexual
Olympic experience.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Am I wrong.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
No, you're not wrong, And I actually love the point
you just had. I did want to throw this out there,
just from my experience of being over there for the event.
And I'd been to Paris out there a couple of
other times, not doing that so much LaVar oh, but
I had been there before, and this time it felt
a lot more tourist and you'd expect that when you've
got a world event happening, even though it's a rather
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large city.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
It's a big city, but it's not like La where
it can absorb a gigantic act like that, and you
know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Everyone was very aware of the fact that so many
people are here for this event. I think France, did
you know, is doing its best to kind of showcase
the city. And you know, there was a stigma a
while back that the French were mean to tourists or
mean to people. I have never experienced that in my
time ever visited there. But I would actually say even
this time, it was like over the top, how welcoming
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and accommodating people were there.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
But I do want to point this out.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
I'm telling you, man, whatever's happening in our food over
here and what it does to us as compared to
over there.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
We need to figure that out because.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
You, I mean, you have to walk everywhere too, which
is kind of a part of the lifestyle and everything else.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
But you just do not see the.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Weight issues that people tend to deal with here as
opposed to there.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
It is just an entirely different scene in that regard.
Speaker 7 (46:34):
I go to grease and drink twenty beers a day
and eat like seven meals a day and.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Lose fifteen pounds.
Speaker 7 (46:42):
It's a crest feeling in the world because you come
back and you realize, like, all our food is poisoned
and we.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Have a terrible lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
But then at the same time, it's like those people
like if they go to on vacation, they go to
make on vacation for five weeks. You know, if you
go to somebody's house for two days out there, they're
insulted that you didn't stay for two weeks. And they
just have a different concept of time and how.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
To live life.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
And yes, we've been completely and totally brainwashed, and all
our food is bad and it's a terrible thing. People
are like, well, why is chocolate so much better in Europe.
It's like because they have different laws on how you
can pasteurize milk. Everything there is different, Everything tastes different,
everything grows differently. America is a lonely crock of crap
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in that regard. And I'm sorry Brady that you pointed
that out.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
It makes me sad, well, it.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Makes me sad to because you see people out there
who are obviously battling some stuff, you know, battling.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
Through We're like Europe in state college football player, aspiring
football player, athlete of any sport, make sure you check
out state college and go there.
Speaker 7 (47:55):
Why enjoy the anonymity, LeVar, You know, some people enjoy
the anonymity of a big city. But you know, I
used to always you know, concentrate and dwell on that
at USC. And you know, and this was long before
Reggie Bush and Matt Lioner, and I would tell people, look,
this isn't a place where you're much more anonymous, even
at school, because it's a huge school with everybody has
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a bunch of interests and it's la not everybody's into sports.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
And also with the fact that the city's huge.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
Now then the Liner Bush thing happened and they started,
you know, USC football started hanging out in.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Hollywood, Yeah right, And that was that wasn't new.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
That had happened before with Frank Gifford way back in
the forties or whatever. And it happened with OJ, no
doubt about that. OJ got that that contingent of people
excited in the city when he was at USC winning
a Heisman. But it happened again with Leonard and Bush.
And then you started seeing USC football players, you know,
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at the Mandry On or they'd do if you remember,
that's where people you know, Paris Hilton and all that,
and Drew Barrymore in the unisex bathroom making out with
some androgynous person, all kinds of stuff like that, And
that was not the USC football that I was familiar with.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Was much more like watch Malaifo shoot Dice off his
lucky leg.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
Or one time a girl, a crip girl got upset, No, no,
just we had a lucky leg. And then there was
one time that a crip girl got upset, like and
she pulled a gun out from her boobs and she
had a big giant boob tattoo.
Speaker 5 (49:38):
And I was like, God, if she pulled a strap
from there, she must have had some big giant hut place.
Speaker 7 (49:44):
Yes, correct, and I was like, welcome to college football.
What a time to be alive.
Is the best of two pros and.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Whole Volte Day he blamed it on the pole vote. Yeah,
we we do have an update.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
There's two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm Britty Quinn. That's LeVar Arrington. No choice knocks for
this week.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
You know, suspended on p D volations, so I don't
know about that, but we do.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
We do have an update. One LeVar Arrington has found
the clip of the was he French or Italian? Look
looked like he's French.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
French French with an Italian last name, so a little
confusing there, but yeah, I did.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Find the video clip.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Now, I tried to point out to Lee he wasn't
getting over regardless because he clipped the bar with his
calf or knee whatever, and then as subsequently was insults
and injury with hitting his junk.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Is that fair to.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Say he did hit it with his first right like
there was no chance I was gonna stay on it
might have. It might have stayed on like sometimes you
can touch it, You can touch it and it will
it probably you're probably right. It probably would have bounced
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off it like compressed it. It probably would have bounced off.
But I mean, but his his What were you saying,
remember his friend?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I said, junk?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, the best if I was in that, if I
was in that position, by the way, and if you want,
I mean I can, I can go ahead and go
through a little play by play if you will, Yeah,
let's do the play.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
What was the guy's name again, I'maradi? Was his last name? Anthony,
Anthony Amuradi.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
There you go, as I said, if it's an Italian
last name, you throw Anthony in the front, nine times
out of ten, you're.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Gonna probably hit right.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
So so here we are at the twenty twenty four
Paris Olympic Games as Anthony Almaradi is preparing for his
pole vault. Now this is his last and final attempt
to try to advance into the next round.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
And here goes Anthony.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
He's got the height, he gets oh, and he comes
to oh, oh, my goodness, the crowd, ladies and gentlemen.
His legs, his legs got in the way of that one.
He will not qualify to be able to place. However,
the entire world has now been put on notice as
far as what Anthony is carrying in his pants.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
So Anthony is probably overnight sex symbol in his country.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's all I'm gonna say. Good for you, Anthony.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
You might not have won the gold medal in the Olympics,
but you are now.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
A celebrity in the real Wor does this do.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
More for French, the French or the Italians given the
he's an Italian guy living in France.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
That's a great question. Q, It's a great question. I
think they both will get credit. I think they certainly
will both get credit. But but Anthony himself has boosted himself,
has grown in popularity. I'm sure has exploded in popularity
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after this viral video of him failing. I mean, who
becomes famous off of failing?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, that's that's that's a great, great question. Good point.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I will also point out that the Olympics, Okay, I'm
glad someone's proud of him. The Olympics are actually started
back up. A lot of live events going on right now.
The women's gymnastics beam competition is going on. Simone Biles
is about ready to go. She will be last night events.
She's actually got a bronze the past couple Olympics she's
never gotten al this is setting up really well for
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her to win her first gold on the beam at
the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
But I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I didn't want to point out one speaking of their
growing popularity, one of the girls I believe she was
competing for Brazil as women's gymnastics or gymnasts. She had
started off they were sending her Instagram account. It started
off with like maybe twenty thirty some thousand followers. She
has over two million, over two million, just from the
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exposure in the Olympic Games. Think about that, How crazy
that would be.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
But her because seriously, I mean, if you figure if
those are real followers, she's now monetizable and that that's right.
You know, that's an interesting topic. Q coming out of
all of this is that guy Anthony probably if he
has social media, he's probably probably in the millions now.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Too, right, But he might be also a part of
some of those spam, you know, things that go out there.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Oh but you get a blue chery coming up, So yeah,
I do, I do, I definitely do. But you know,
it's it's interesting that in the past you're you're probably
monetizing as as a successful olympian through you know, appearances,
you know, speaking engagements and stuff like that. But now
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you're talking about if you get that followership across your
your platforms of social media, you know the advertisers are
going to monetize you and and it's much more You
would have to assume there's much more opportunity to be
lucrative in post Olympic success than what it ever has period,
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you know.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So that's interesting thought. It is interesting.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
You've always been a big, one, big advocate for social media.
On the other hand, not so much. And I do
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Speaker 4 (06:08):
Let's get some training camp updates.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
We talked in the first hour about whether or not
the Brown should play to Shaun Watson.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
A little different conversation.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
When it's a veteran who you've seen produce on the field,
maybe not in Cleveland so much, but in Houston you
have in comparison to a rookie, and in this case
Jadeen Daniels, the presumed to be starting quarterback for the
Washington Commandos. He will be getting the start in the
preseason versus the Jets. This was really no surprise for
those that I think, no dan Quinn, They're a new
(06:38):
head coach and how he operates. However, it is in
contrast to what we saw from the Bears, which granted
Hall of Fame game, did not start the number one
overall pick Caleb Williams. Is this how you would you
think things should be done? Like, if this is going
to be your guy, even though he's a rookie, he
still needs to get out there and get some live
reps in to adjust to the speed of the game.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Is that fair in your mind level? Yes? Yes? Why
not get the man some reps?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
I'm still I am still trying to figure out and
understand why do you not get him a few game reps?
I mean, this is a rookie, so he's never played
in a National Football League game before ever in his life.
He doesn't know what that feels like, he doesn't know
what that looks like. His body doesn't know, his mental
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doesn't know. And whether or not you're playing against starters
or not, don't you want to give this guy an
opportunity immediately to say, you know what, I got it
out of my system. I got onto the field, I
played a couple downs, it felt good, I got out
of there, like building from it moving on. I just
think that it's overstated the whole like, and I know
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you're on the offense side of the ball and you
are quarterback, so you could tell me I'm wrong, But
the whole idea of you're like, I'm holding you out
because you're going to get injured.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think it's an overstated conversation. I do.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I think for veterans it's different. When you've got a
guy who's solidified, there's really no need, I think, in
my mind nowadays to put him in in harm's way
a lot. I agree, by the way, I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with that in this case. To your point
that at every step, every step of the way, for rookies,
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there is a transition to the speed of the game.
We always talk about that topic of speed of the game.
When you first get to practice, there's an adjustment period.
You're usually indoctrinated through a rookie mini camp, and so
at the rookie mini camp, you know everyone is an
NFL caliber player. That's why they're there at the rookie
mini camp. They have a shot of being a part
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of it, or they are going to be a part
of it. So you adapt to kind of what that
speed looks like as opposed to playing college, where you've
got some really good college players, maybe some greats, but
they're not going to play at the NFL level, So
there's an adjustment period. Just then then the veterans show
up and things get a lot faster. Things, you know,
it becomes much more difficult in those competitive periods because
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you've got veteran guys who are trying to make the
team and try to keep their jobs, and then they
let you know about it. So that's that's a whole
different speed to it. And then you get to the
preseason when they're actually being graded on this stuff. And
so to your point, like with every step of the way,
the game gets faster, as I kind of describe it
to people, it gets more efficient. Like one of the
(09:30):
things that I've always appreciated about watching older veteran players
and even like studying them on defense is oftentimes the
older defensive players that have played forever, they don't take
false steps. Bro, when there's a counter or a misdirection play,
they're not they're not falling for it. They're disciplined with
(09:51):
what they're reading. They're disciplined in their keys, and they're
they're not going to be persuaded by something.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
They're following the rules and doing what they're supposed to
be doing.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I was explaining this very thing at the practice, and
my steps were quicker. Today. My steps were quicker. I'm
standing out and that's the difference. Like, right, I'm standing
people there. People don't understand that. Right, I'm sitting there
with the backers and I'm like, all right, stand with
me and watch it. Give me your first steps, right,
give me your first steps. We're watching the run drill.
(10:22):
Give me your first steps. I'm standing in my stands
there and there stands and I'm like, here's what you
gotta be keying. And we're going through the key reads,
the progression of the read going from the center, go
from the center to wherever the center goes, wherever his
first step is. Now, my eyes, my eyes go to
that guard. Right, my eyes go to that guard. Whatever
that guard does is going to tell me what my
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steps are going to be. So we're doing the reads.
I'm telling them to trust the reads, and I'm taking
the steps with them.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
And my steps were quicker.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
And it's crazy because now now let's not get carried
away if I had to continue to run, that's where
it's right. But the first two steps I used to
one of the quickest first step dudes was Mike Barrow
his step and he was one of the smartest football players.
Him and Antonio Peers two of the more smarter dudes
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I had ever been around in terms of just diagnosing
and understanding what everybody everything going on out there. But
Michael Barrow's first step was tremendous. It like it was
almost like I was envious of it. But you're one
hundred percent right, man. I always tell people, I say,
you want to if I could try to give the
best way of describing it, a high school a high
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school game is the equivalent of a college practice speed wise,
so you gotta be at game speed. I tell my
son this, you gotta start practicing at game speed in
practice now, because that's that's practice speed in college. When
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you get to a PROS game speed of a of
a college game is the practice speed of a pro practice,
So you have to be prepared to move as quickly
and as fast as you're moving with your eyes, with
your body that you are in a in a college game,
in a practice at the pro level and not to me,
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and and if you can get your your head wrapped
around the fact that it is literally that much faster,
like whoa, because that's the first thing I recognized when
I was when I was at when I went pro.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Even when I went to college, it's like, this is fast.
It's fast. Then it got faster in pros.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
It's like, you gotta get your head wrapped around the
fact that how are you so much faster?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
How is it so much faster?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
And you're right, a lot of it has to do
with the mental aspect of how guys are reading and
what they're looking at and what's going on at the
pro level.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So yeah, they're there more efficient and there's no false steps.
And the last thing is the what you kind of
pointed on, is they're more decisive in what they're doing,
you know, And I think you can see that in
every walk of life. When someone is efficient or able
to get a lot done, whether it's in work or
their personal life, what have you. Usually they know exactly
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what they're looking for, they know exactly what they're doing,
how to do it, and that's in an essence, what
becomes pro football, because that's your job.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
In college there's elements of that too, you see players
who do that. Sometimes it's more related to talent, but
when you get to the NFL, talent's equated, and so
it's all guys who they know what they're supposed to do,
they know how to do it, and they're going to
do it in a very efficient manner in fashion. So
that's typically how it works. But not to get off
on a huge tangent. I don't think you and I
are surprised by Jade Daniel starting, nor the fact that
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he probably should be in this case, just to get
him out there, just to get him adjusted to that
speed and talking about another quarterback. I don't want to
call it a controversy or even competition, but it was
interesting that Drod mayoled the head coach for the New
England Patriots and Elliot Wolf they're now title general manager
for the New England Patriots.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Drafted two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I think everyone when they saw Drake May get taken
a number three overall, they thought, Okay, this is their
guy for the foreseeable future, to follow in the footsteps
of you know what, was a number of quarterbacks after
Tom Brady so far, but in particular Mac Jones, who
was a first round pick. That being said, Joe Milton,
their sixth round pick, the quarterback who was originally at
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Michigan transferred to Tennessee where he finished his career. He's
stole on the show and look, this was low hanging
fruit for me talking about a lot of the draft prospects,
and I was very high on Joe Milton because the
NFL game is very different from the college game in
this sense where when you have you can be a
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player in my opinion, that has one or two things
you do extraordinarily well, like better than any human being
on the plane, or one of the best human being.
That talent, that extraordinary skill will get you a shot
at the professional level. Like you and I both know
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a lot of players who played probably at the college level,
who were really good and all around really good, probably
didn't have too many holes in their game. However, when
it came down to it, they probably weren't one of
the fastest guys. They probably weren't the strongest guy. They
had a combination of skills and ability that led them
to succeed at that level, but when they went to
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the pro level, no extraordinary talent that was unable to
be stopped. And Joe Milton has walking into the NFL
one of the strongest arms. I mean, I've said this
to people, and even combined with his size, his athleticism,
he is the complete package of tools that you would
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want a quarterback to have. With the one exception, that's
the fact that he was one of those guys who
played a long time in college or was in I
should say a long time in college, but never had
that breakout season where you go, oh, there, it is
like that was what I was hoping for, that thirty
plus touchdown season, you know, throwing for over you know,
three thousand and thirty five, whatever the case is, as
(16:12):
far as yards. It really wasn't until his final year
at Tennessee in a system that seemed conducive, two quarterbacks
putting up numbers, and obviously he came short of of
you know, what was done previously under Hender Hendon Hooker
for example, and some of the others that we'd seen
in that system, and I think Tennessee fans were somewhat
disappointed with with his level of play just in the
(16:35):
final year, but he's been the guy turning heads. Like
a lot of people have said at who have attended
the New England Patriots training camp that you would not
think that Drake May was the guy taking number three overall,
that it was Joe Milton at Stead instead, who stands
at six foot five, two hundred and forty five pounds
with a howitzer for an arm.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I mean, do you think.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
There should be an open competition at that point or
is this way too early spec as to what things
are going.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
To look like.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Well, I mean he's twenty four and Drake May's twenty one,
so I would assume him having a little bit more
age and time under his belt that coming into it,
he would have a little bit more of an advantage
just from the.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Standpoint of you know, he's older. But but is it
too early?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I don't think it's ever too early, because the one
thing that we always talk about is time. You don't
have time. You don't get to come in and get
what Jordan Love was able to get. You don't get
that type of time. So if you are are in
Drake May's situation, you got to be stepping up what
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it is that you're doing because you are the top pick.
You are the one that they're looking at to be
the next guy. And if you're Milton, you're saying, listen,
I'm coming in. I know I'm behind the top draft pick,
so I had better be making plays and doing things
that are phenomenal. With all those things being said, though, Q,
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I think you and I both know we've seen enough
football through the years to know I've seen dudes in
training camps outplay veterans, hid and shoulders outplayed them in
the preseason and in training camp, and they got cut.
They did not not just make the team, they got
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cut from the team. So to me, when I hear
a story like this, the first thing I go to
is how valued is Drake made to this organization. If
it's if they're valuing him at the draft pick that
he's at, he's going to get the benefit of the
doubt the entire time until that benefit of the doubt
is probably kind of run its course, and that's having
(18:54):
a losing season and he either can't get onto the
field to play or he's on the field and that
isn't doing well. But otherwise he's going to get the
benefit of the doubt right now, just based upon the
position he was drafted in, and Milton is going to
find himself on on that roster, he'll solidify a roster
(19:14):
spot or he'll get his opportunity to go play somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Well, He's gonna be a guy for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
We got to keep an eye on throughout the course
of the preseason because I would assume both we'll get
a lot of reps and I think a lot of
people are gonna be wow by what Joe Milton is
capable of doing, giving his talents and his rare skill set.
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Speaker 3 (20:17):
I guess maybe more surprising as the way to describe it.
Former head coach in the NFL is on the Kansas
City chief sideline helping out during training camp, and that
is one John Gruden, who most recently was a head
coach for the Las Vegas Raiders before being dismissed. So
a bit surprising, but not so much when you actually
(20:39):
look at the track record in history between Andy Reid,
the head coach for the Chiefs, and John Gruden. They
actually coached back together on Mike Holmgren's offensive staff in
Green Bay in the nineteen nineties, so when you take
into account that, it kind of makes some sense. And
this actually isn't John Gruden's first stint helping out an
(21:02):
NFL team last season. In fact, John Gruden was a
consultant for the New Orleans Saints, so he was involved
with that team. Then he's been involved, you know, back
as an advisor in the world of football and with
an Italian football team, the Milano Seamen of the European
League Football, which is a new startup league over there, however,
(21:24):
so you know, he's he's been a part of this
getting back into football. And remember obviously Gruden, who was
you know, coach the Raiders, coached the Tampa Bay Bucks
most famously to that Super Bowl back in two thousand
and two, still boasting over you know, five games, over
five hundred career record as a head coach, but as
well regarded around a lot of league circles and coaching staff.
(21:45):
So this isn't a surprise from that standpoint. It's more
the fact that he was kind of dismissed and moved
on and now he's back and there's really no formal
announcement about it.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah, I think it was a scapegoat situation with with
John Grutin for what was going on in Washington, which
is interesting how everything kind of panned out and played
out and whatever side people fall on on the fallout
of the emails getting released and some of the information
that became you know, public knowledge about John Gruden. There
(22:21):
are a lot of people and and noted, both black
and white and and you know other that have spoke
very very glowingly of John Gruton and who he is
and disputing the fact that he should be judged and
measured and weighed by being you know what, people considered
(22:44):
him to be a racist. As far as professionally speaking,
I think his resume speaks for itself obviously, and and
to have his his his wisdom and his knowledge connected
to the game and the sport, I mean he he
(23:05):
kind of revolutionized how television analysts went about their work
in terms of breaking down, you know, what what players
were doing specifically maybe particularly you know what the quarterbacks
were doing. So within you know, within the football world
Q it's no surprise that he continues to be utilized
(23:29):
and used because just like most other things, when it's internal,
it's it hits different. When it's external, it definitely is
perceived and seen differently. So people who know, they know,
people who don't know, they will assume and they'll think
whatever it is that they're going to think. But but
(23:49):
from all things that that you know, from the inside
and the internal aspects of it, there are a lot
of people that that bang with John Gruden, and and
so for him having that opportunity and working with the chiefs,
obviously those guys go back to the home Gren I
do believe, if my my memory serves me correctly, both
(24:10):
Andy and and John.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Were with home Grin. Yeah I just mentioned that. Yeah, okay, okay, good, okay,
thank you. I'm I mean remember, serve you correct Yeah, okay,
thank you, thank you. Sometimes I don't know yeah, yeah, okay,
there you go.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
I mean sometimes I don't listen to what you be
saying though, But anyway, I listen to most of it.
But sometimes I just kind of start thinking about, Okay,
I heard what he said. Let me let me try
to figure out what I'm gonna say. And I might
have missed that part. Uh, but but yeah, so so
thank you. Thank you for that confirmation of four minutes ago.
My memory serving me correctly. But yeah, I mean, those guys,
(24:49):
those guys have an affinity for one another. And as
if they couldn't get any more active and making you know,
Patrick mahomes bad, are making their offense better, the offensive schemes,
you know, ways of approaching it.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Uh. They've built a juggernaut.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
They've they've developed a machine there and in Kansas City.
And good for them for giving, you know, giving a
guy like John gruden an opportunity. So many times we
talk about other things and other people and we say
they there should be some some grace and there should
be the opportunity of redemption or whatever it may be.
(25:31):
It should be no different in this situation, you know.
And so him having that opportunity to continue to work
and make things better where he's at, I think that's
a that's wow, that's that's something serious right there, to
have home grin and I mean not homegrin, but have
have Andy Reid and John Gruden together working together that way.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, Now do you think it was a rapid decision
that Andy Reid made when wanting to bring in John Gruden.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
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(26:20):
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Speaker 4 (27:04):
Oh perfect.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, ided for my kids, my gaggle of kids, which,
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Sloan years old today, So excited for her. She's stoked
about it. Had a really fun time celebrating, uh, entering
into fatherhood. She was my first, so it's always nice,
always always cool to see that. Uh speaking about fatherhood,
(27:27):
which has nothing to do with this next topic I
want to touch on.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
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I did? I got the link. Okay, yep, got the link. Okay,
tell us about this fatherhood. Okay, let me hear what
you got.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Devanta Adams he's been weighing heavily on the QB battle
there in Las Vegas, and I wanted to bring this
up specifically.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
To you because I'd be curious to gets your thoughts.
You know, I'm that QB battle.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I mean, obviously Devantae Adams is the number one receiver,
one of the best in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
He's going to have a pretty good idea as to
what's happening.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Who's you know, maybe in the best pole position, as
I think you would say, But I'm just I'm just
saying you might have some inside information as to who
would be in the best pole position there in Las
Vegas for the quarterback competition.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I don't, I do not. This is all I know
just from what I can gather. All I know is
is that O'Connell is the guy that was doing what
he was doing, and seemingly because he finished the season
(28:36):
out with them and they did not bring in even
though they paid you know, Minshew more money, it seems
as though there's maybe the idea that he's going to
be the guy and that mint you is going to
back him up.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I mean, but.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
See, I don't I don't want to be like in
say in terms because I don't want it to come
back on him. I don't want to come back on
me that I said it. All I know is this,
and I think this is common knowledge. They did not
get a quarterback this offseason that they feel like they're
gonna win with, like this is their quarterback of the future.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
So whoever it is, Q.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It's kind of like pick your poison on which one
is going to bias time until we get to a quarterback.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And to me, that's my interpretation of it.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
So they're in a bridge situation basically till the twenty
twenty five draft.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Which I think, so which I mean, is there a
guy in the draft? It might be free agency. Yeah,
maybe that's true. I mean, it might be free agency.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Dak Prescott that situation in Dallas. But the hard part
is is it would almost have to be free agency
and you'd have to pulling up the funds to want
to pay a guy in the free agency because if
AP and the rest of the rators want to have
a successful season, you're not gonna be in a position
to really go up and get a guy, which they
kind of found out this year getting left out empty
(30:05):
handed on the rookie quarterback draft sweepstakes.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
So that's the unfortunate part is you can't do both.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
You can't go out and win and be successful and
be a playoff team then have a chance to get
one of the top quarterbacks and next year's draft that
just doesn't work out that well.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
And then that kind of comes to the point of
what do you how do you keep a guy like
Devonte Adams happy? You know, because he is he still
has that he still has that ability to be a
top top player in the game. But if you don't
(30:42):
have a guy that can deliver the ball to him,
And then another aspect of it is is he came
there because of his close friend and car and he's
not there anymore. How do you how do you make
him feel confident about wanting to stay Because if you
ask me, if I'm looking at the way this team
is built up, I'm saying, I'm going to play tremendous
(31:04):
defense and I'm going to run the ball. So my
past concepts will be very simple. So if you're not
able to get DeVante Adams the ball in very simple
pass concepts and give him the ability to or him
have the ability to turn you know, quick catchable, quick
game types of passing game into yards after the catch,
(31:26):
You're probably not going to see a very very happy
Davante Adams because they're going, they're going they're gonna have
to run the ball. They're gonna have to run the ball,
play defense, run the ball, and you're probably gonna see
even you know, with the way they're they're configured in
here in LA with the Chargers, you're probably going to
see a run first team in the Chargers as well.
(31:47):
You know, So that same type of mentality what what
Harball did in at Michigan in the college level, He's
probably going to do the same exact thing, or at
least attempt to do it in the prosy. I think
that that's what Antonio Pierce is going to do with
his team as well. Establish a strong running game where
can make it simpler for whichever one it is, whether
(32:10):
it's O'Connor or whether it's it's Minshew, make it easier
for them in the passing game by having a strong
running game.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
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Speaker 4 (32:37):
All right, doing Friday, Pops.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, you guys have some kind of other plan on Friday.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Originally I was supposed to do Friday, but you guys
have another plan, which is fine with me.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
I'm never a part of those plans. I just do
the show. But that's interesting. I thought you were just
bailing out.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
On this on front.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
No, no, no, but you know, I do like to
be because I'm going to be here for a significant
amount of significant four fifths of the week. I would
like to ask I like to build a bit of
a foundation before we launch into the week of sports
talk radio here on the national level on Fox Sports Radio,
(33:19):
which is a great responsibility and privilege that I don't
take lightly, very serious, nice and I need to build
a foundation of just what's going on. So I do
need to know what everybody's been I heard about Lee's
weekend was just riveting in the last segment. Glad I
(33:40):
got on early there, But I do LeVar, what was
your weekend? Like, what are you coming off? I know
you were in State College over the weekend. Maybe I'm
LeVar Man, you know what I mean. That's that's the
one thing that I love about State College Pa. I'm
not mister Errington. I'm not a like you know, who's
(34:01):
that guy or whatever. I'm Leavar And that's I always
enjoy that when I go to State College Pee, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Right, So you were there, yeah, being LeVar, I wasn't
being I mean, I am LeVar, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
It's just really cool.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Like I was telling my wife, I'm like, you know,
you can go a whole lot of places in the
world no one ever know who you are or this,
that and the other.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
And I was like, I'm Leavar, and you know, in
State it's funny being the captain of the USC football team.
Even when when way back in the nineties and I played,
when you played.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Nobody knew me.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Like it's l like, you know what I mean, And
if you were here, no one would know you either.
I mean you were you were a thousand times, you know.
I always have to imagine that, right, Yeah. I've always
talked about it, and I always talked about it with
people that are like you and not I mean, you're
one of the more recognizable college football players, both of
you guys, really in the last thirty years. So I'm
(34:58):
always trying to qualify what I say to you or
how I say it, or how I try to relate
with you guys, because you guys were legitimately famous football
players and I was like a short yardage tailback on
really bad USC teams. But that being said, I was
a captain of the football team, and I did do
a lot of media, and I spent time with football
players that were a lot more famous and recognizable than me,
(35:20):
like Carson Palmer and Troy and you could take them
anywhere in LA and not a damn person would know
who they were.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
See, you know, that's a great recruit.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
So all the recruits out there, why the hell would
you go to USC? You could go to state college.
You could go to state college. And it's like cheers.
Every other person is like, hey, LeVar. Like I'm walking
down the street, people rolling down the windows, what's up, LeVar,
Like I'm sitting at the restaurant. Everything good, LeVar. Like
(35:50):
it's they're not intrusive, they're not overbearing, they're.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Just just wrecked.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Like there's LeVar, like, I think it's the coolest thing.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm I mean, I think it's wonderful too. Go ahead, Brady,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Now, I was just gonna say I'd hope they'd recognize you.
They're in Happy Valley. It's not a very big place.
I mean, Petro's just pointing out the fact that Los
Angeles is like the second biggest city in the country,
so it's a little easier to think for some of
the guys to get lost in the mixt.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Okay, I think it's like, the bottom line is, no
matter what the reason is, if Petros as the captain
of the team, or Troy Polamalu or Chris Claiborne. I mean,
I'm sure Reggie Bush kind of, I'm sure they know
the Reggie.
Speaker 7 (36:30):
Bush liner thing was interesting and we'll get into that.
But okay, you're you're right. I mean I used to
tell people on their recruiting trips to USC like, listen,
you go to Tennessee, the water Boys getting laid out
of here if you ain't some producer's son or one
of these frat boys and a beamer are with us
(36:50):
shooting dice below Vermont. You know, spring football nobody's here.
You know, we didn't go to Hollywood. And that's the
one thing that I talk a lot to players that
are my age and USC types. You know, we we
were a South central Los Angeles football team and that's
where we hung out and we did stuff that people
did in south central LA.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
We're banging well and not well.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
I learned to say I don't bang really early in
my you know what I'm saying, though, Like.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You don't learn that in Manhattan, Kansas.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
You know, it holds up on you start set tripping
in Manhattan, Kansas. But if you're USC football and you're
walking home and and you were on the wrong street, somebody,
as a white guy from the Midwest, help me understand
how quickly you came to the conclusion.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
That you needed to learn to say I don't bang.
And then at the same time, is there a way
you have to go about saying that?
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Well, somebody says, where are you from? And you know,
you don't excuse me, excuse me saying you know, I
don't bang. You have to say that quick. You know,
we would have guys that, you know, really recognizable star
football players like Daylon McCutcheon. You know, they played like
ten years in the NFL in your state, Brady, and
(38:09):
they'd say, you know, take off your hat and be like, okay,
take it out, you know, like and those are certain
streets you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
That's the area of the school is in though, correct,
But it's.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Not that way.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
It's not.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
I mean, it's kind of that way, but it's not
really that way anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
When liner.
Speaker 7 (38:25):
So, the one thing I talk about a lot with
players that are my age is none of us could
be in college now because we were all criminals, you know,
to a certain degree. You know, some some worse than others.
But we were literally all breaking the law on a
daily basis in one way and every NCAA rule in
one way or the other right, and I mean we
(38:46):
were and they got bad guys, literal bad guys that
people would qualify into school back then because you could
and it wasn't right, but that's but you did.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
And now it's just not that way. So we just
talk about how soft everybody is.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
Like it really kind of fits into the Colorado story
from yesterday, right. You read the thing about the Applon
story about Dion, and you know, when you have that
much turnover and you upset as many people as Dion
has in the short time that he's been in Colorado.
These kinds of stories and gotcha pieces and stuff are inevitable,
and everybody's going to have their own take on it.
(39:27):
But when I read that stuff, you know what it
read luck to me, LeVar, it sounded like that's when
I play.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
You know, It's sounds like something that I would you know.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Hear about or see in person at USC in the nineties,
and it feels like that's what's being cultivated over there.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Well, all I'll say, I'll go back to this. It
was it's always an honor and a pleasure to be
a Penn State and ending.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
I kiss my right so I have to say it
the right way. So this isn't true. We already went
through this.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
I take, I kiss my hand, I kneel down, and
I touched the ground at the airport every single time
I touch down in State College because of how thankful
I am to stay college.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I mean, it's it's an amazing place.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Do you see yourself retiring there, LeVar?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
No, I never want to live there. Okay, I would
never want to live there.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
It's just just I could live there while it's warm
out and I could be there consistently, which I will
be there for every home game this year. But I
wouldn't want to live there all year round. I could
have a home there. I'm contemplating getting a home there, Pete,
but I don't want to live there all year.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
I can't do snow anymore, people, I can't do snow
ever again.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Brady, do you kiss your hand and touch the ground
whenever you land in South Bend? No, I don't have
a private airport.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
I actually I drive in probably more than anything else.
So that would also be weird because it'd be more
like a parking lot at like a hotel there, so
it feels a little different.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
I do what.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Exactly exactly it'd be like there would be like gum,
you know, like six inches away from where I'm like
bending over to kiss the ground.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
The uh I do want to point out too.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
For the longest time, we had all envisioned and it's
not just myself, this is like listeners everyone else that
when LeVar would step foot off the plane, most like
a United flight because they have the most connections into
State College.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
I believe that he was.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Bending over like as soon as he walks off the
little you know, jet bridge deal. He's bending over to
kiss the ground, like lips to the ground.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
No, I don't put my lips on it.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I know, and we we we actually brought this out
of him at some point.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
It's like, no, I don't. I don't do that. You know.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
I kissed my head. But I'm buried down. I am
kneel down, I'm sit down.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
I've seen a lot of people do that arriving in Greece.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Greek. Yeah, they get down and stay college is my Greece.
Can I ask a question to yes.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
We We actually touched on a topic earlier today in
regards to the Olympics that I did notice.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
That that's your weekend, right, you just came back from France.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
No, it was. I was there earlier last week, like
middle of last.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
It's pretty significant, Like, you know, the farthest I get
is like thousand oaks.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeah, but you've been to Greece. You you go there off.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
I used to travel more.
Speaker 7 (42:27):
I've become quite a gooraphobic and much less adventurous as
in the Middle Age.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I can understand that. Trust me.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
After spending what was an entire day essentially in an
airport or an airplane or getting to an airport.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Shot the gaul.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yes, that's right, old Chucky. A lot of stuff going
on there.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
But I digressh you didn't mention something in one of
your tweets about a puzzo getting in the way of
the polo.
Speaker 7 (42:52):
Dude, this is the Olympic because of puzzo? Is it
not Olympics? It totally. It's all puzso all the time.
There is This is not a significant coincidence that the
French like Nike brand is called let Cock Sportif and
(43:14):
it's the freaking rooster let Cock sportif. Look at uys
coo u q let cock a sportif, and it's all
poots all day. That the thing starts all day. The
thing starts with a bearded guy with boobs and a poots. Right,
(43:36):
what is the most ceremony then?
Speaker 4 (43:40):
Is the most distracting event.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
The dirty puzza well, volleyball, my god.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
Then you had the dirty puzzo river, you have the
boxing Puzzo's that they have a puzzo?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Do they not have a puzzu?
Speaker 4 (43:51):
They were born with a puzzo.
Speaker 7 (43:52):
And then you have them the puzzo that hits the pole.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
It's like, what's next?
Speaker 4 (43:59):
What is new? You know?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
You got somebody with their sack out like that?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Is there's pole voter a hero? Now? Is it a
national hero? Now? Well?
Speaker 7 (44:08):
I think well, you know it's it's different in Europe.
You know, some people think a gigantic member is I'm
not fashionable.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Oh, which is.
Speaker 7 (44:17):
Why the David has over there. So you're saying I'm
not saying they do that. I'm just saying, you know,
that's why the David it looks the way it does.
You know what I mean, A large poots was not
always seen as fashionable. It might have been seen as
kind of.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Uh like freakish, yes, yeah, like freak ships.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
I take it correct, or just an excuse for yeah,
you know, things change, seasons change, you know, people change.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
So uh, I just I'm enjoying the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
I don't have like some weird hot take about anything
other than the fact that because it's France and it
would probably it wasn't this way in Greece, but but
it could be because we're obviously distracted by this. But
because it's France, it's almost completely and totally a sexual
Olympic experience.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Am I wrong.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
No, you're not wrong, And I actually love the point
you just had. I did want to throw this out there,
just from my experience of being over there for the event.
And I'd been to Paris out there a couple of
other times, not doing that so much LaVar oh, but
I had been there before, and this time it felt
a lot more tourist and you'd expect that when you've
got a world event happening, even though it's a rather
(45:35):
large city.
Speaker 7 (45:35):
It's a big city, but it's not like La where
it can absorb a gigantic act like that, and you
know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Everyone was very aware of the fact that so many
people are here for this event. I think France, did
you know, is doing its best to kind of showcase
the city. And you know, there was a stigma a
while back that the French were mean to tourists or
mean to people. I have never experienced that in my
time ever visited there. But I would actually say even
this time, it was like over the top, how welcoming
(46:05):
and accommodating people were there.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
But I do want to point this out.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
I'm telling you, man, whatever's happening in our food over
here and what it does to us as compared to
over there.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
We need to figure that out because.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
You, I mean, you have to walk everywhere too, which
is kind of a part of the lifestyle and everything else.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
But you just do not see the.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Weight issues that people tend to deal with here as
opposed to there.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
It is just an entirely different scene in that regard.
Speaker 7 (46:34):
I go to grease and drink twenty beers a day
and eat like seven meals a day and.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Lose fifteen pounds.
Speaker 7 (46:42):
It's a crest feeling in the world because you come
back and you realize, like, all our food is poisoned
and we.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Have a terrible lifestyle.
Speaker 7 (46:52):
But then at the same time, it's like those people
like if they go to on vacation, they go to
make on vacation for five weeks. You know, if you
go to somebody's house for two days out there, they're
insulted that you didn't stay for two weeks. And they
just have a different concept of time and how.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
To live life.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
And yes, we've been completely and totally brainwashed, and all
our food is bad and it's a terrible thing. People
are like, well, why is chocolate so much better in Europe.
It's like because they have different laws on how you
can pasteurize milk. Everything there is different, Everything tastes different,
everything grows differently. America is a lonely crock of crap
(47:33):
in that regard. And I'm sorry Brady that you pointed
that out.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
It makes me sad, well, it.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Makes me sad to because you see people out there
who are obviously battling some stuff, you know, battling.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
Through We're like Europe in state college football player, aspiring
football player, athlete of any sport, make sure you check
out state college and go there.
Speaker 7 (47:55):
Why enjoy the anonymity, LeVar, You know, some people enjoy
the anonymity of a big city. But you know, I
used to always you know, concentrate and dwell on that
at USC. And you know, and this was long before
Reggie Bush and Matt Lioner, and I would tell people, look,
this isn't a place where you're much more anonymous, even
at school, because it's a huge school with everybody has
(48:17):
a bunch of interests and it's la not everybody's into sports.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
And also with the fact that the city's huge.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
Now then the Liner Bush thing happened and they started,
you know, USC football started hanging out in.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Hollywood, Yeah right, And that was that wasn't new.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
That had happened before with Frank Gifford way back in
the forties or whatever. And it happened with OJ, no
doubt about that. OJ got that that contingent of people
excited in the city when he was at USC winning
a Heisman. But it happened again with Leonard and Bush.
And then you started seeing USC football players, you know,
(48:56):
at the Mandry On or they'd do if you remember,
that's where people you know, Paris Hilton and all that,
and Drew Barrymore in the unisex bathroom making out with
some androgynous person, all kinds of stuff like that, And
that was not the USC football that I was familiar with.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Was much more like watch Malaifo shoot Dice off his
lucky leg.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
Or one time a girl, a crip girl got upset, No, no,
just we had a lucky leg. And then there was
one time that a crip girl got upset, like and
she pulled a gun out from her boobs and she
had a big giant boob tattoo.
Speaker 5 (49:38):
And I was like, God, if she pulled a strap
from there, she must have had some big giant hut place.
Speaker 7 (49:44):
Yes, correct, and I was like, welcome to college football.
What a time to be alive.
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