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August 13, 2024 43 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Producer Lee relives 2 bums breaking into his car. Haason Reddick demands a trade but the Jets aren’t budging. Plus, a debate over who would win in a race between Tyreek Hill and Noah Lyles.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Joe with Lamar.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Airings and Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here on a Tuesday morning? Huh?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Probably better than Lee?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
How was your driving today, Windy?

Speaker 5 (00:27):
Actually?

Speaker 6 (00:28):
I got some uh got some new tape today, some
gorilla blue black tape.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Whoa, whoa what.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
You got a match man? Gotta be black now?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh god?

Speaker 5 (00:44):
And it's uh, it looks good. It looks good. It's good, Grille.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Why do I feel like you had a great Monday night?

Speaker 5 (00:51):
It was okay? Yeah, yeah, I treated myself.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
It sounds like it for for anybody who's not familiar
with what happened lead the laps car was broken into
by a couple of bums, literal homeless guys on Sunday morning,
and Lee found one of them and always beat him
up out in front of a valvel.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
What they do in.

Speaker 7 (01:15):
Stop saying that though, I mean, honestly, he didn't almost
beat him up. There's some there's something missing there, there's
a hole in that story.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I don't think he almost beat him up, anything.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
That almost ran him over.

Speaker 7 (01:28):
I think Lee begged and pleaded for his life and
for his belongings.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Is what I think is what happened.

Speaker 7 (01:35):
That's translation of almost be You don't almost beat somebody up.
Like I had to sit and ponder on that yesterday,
Like I was smoking my cigar, I was sitting out back,
and I was like, almost beat him up? So what
does that mean? You didn't almost beat him up in
your mind? In your mind you thought you were going
to beat him up. In reality, you were begging and

(01:57):
pleading for your belongings. That's what I came to the conclusion.
I came to the verdict came back that you're guilty
of saying you were about to whoop some ass because
you don't almost whoop somebody's ass, like almost somebody's holding
you back or either do or you don't. Yeah, Like,
you don't almost beat somebody's.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Ass when you have security cameras and six employees looking
at you.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
No one day.

Speaker 7 (02:27):
Yeah you get a freebie on that one man, that's
a pass they robbed you. Like that's a pass, bro,
Like I'm not even like, I'm not even in the
frame of mind of thinking I'm almost gonna beat your
ass if I catch you.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
If you stole something from me like if I run
you down?

Speaker 6 (02:43):
I caught you and four dollars worth of quarters.

Speaker 7 (02:48):
Okay, but you ain't almost beat his ass though, no way.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I was relooking at some of the other text messages
you sent me on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's this.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's my favorite part outside of the initial which was unprompted.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Effing bums, he writes.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Later on, he goes, you know, Lee, do you mind
if I just read this string of your rand real quick?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Whatever? Go for all right?

Speaker 3 (03:24):
So I asked him, where were you when your items
are stolen out of your car by a couple of
homeless guys my condo moving things from my condo into
my car? So I was back and forth, caught him
red hand and chased one down, almost beat the s
out of him.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
But I call it a tell.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Was He took the change and came back to find
the window was busted and bag gone. So I drove
him down, almost beat his ass in front of the
Valvelene employees.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Made an empty.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
He said.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
He said it must have been the other guy drove
around the neighborhood looking for him, so many bombs those
found cops stole him to keep an eye out for
a guy with a clean black leather bag. I'm sure
they already took the laptop out and tossed it or
chucked it into whatever hole they're living in. I came
close to opening up a few tents. I could hear

(04:13):
people inside, but I thought better of it. I just
finished the police from port and all of that happened
before eleven am.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Lee, let me ask you, I said, I watched a
guy smoking crack at eleven am and the heat right
outside of a church.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah. I mean that's a Sunday in La though, So
let me ask you this, Lee.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Ahead Monday, you go, you try to go to your car,
You see that obviously it's been broken into, and you
go find this guy, right, so you chase him down.
You have that conversation, You come back to your car,
then you see your windows broken. Did you not see
your windows broken the first time? Or was that the
window get broken in between when you were talking to
this guy and the other bum came in and got

(04:54):
your backpack. No?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, I didn't see it the first time.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
I thought because I had left the doors open, that
they had simply just gone inside. Because I had left
the doors open, I was like, that was dumb, dumb
move by me.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
I'm gonna be back in one minute.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Nothing happen, but it checks your door handle first before
breaking the actual window.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
That sounds like the dumbest bum ever.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
That's why that's why I was upset.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Well, I did leave it was my my my driver's side,
both the driver and the passenger that I left open.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
They went through the uh, the opposite side.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
No I saw that, But I'm saying, like, why wouldn't
you check the door handle? Like does does your door
to automatically unlock?

Speaker 6 (05:32):
The one day they did, The one door that they
decided to go through was the locked door out of
the four doors.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
So instead of just opening the front door unlocking it, yeah,
they go ahead just bust the window.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah, thanks a lot, guys.

Speaker 7 (05:45):
But they were working then, were working as a team,
so apparently tend you going to break this down. The
reason why the ass whipping whip been Yeah, the reason
why I would have been legitimized is you caught the
one with the lesser items.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Right, That's why I didn't. That's why I didn't whoop them.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
Because I thought because it was like, you keep the quarters,
you got four dollars worth of quarters in your hand.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
You're punch him right in his mouth and say, where's
the other dude with my bag?

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Dude, It's all happened like within a minute. I didn't
know what the that they had the bagad Lee.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
But Lee they were working together, So you you got
to punish one to get to the other one.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
I should have grabbed.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's that's you're correct, correct, want we're going to go
get my bag?

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
If you didn't want to want to get my bag,
like if you didn't want to assault the guy, just
played safe light the whole tent on fire. That's why
I just like, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
It's justified. And then just see what happens.

Speaker 7 (06:45):
I'll be like, listen, you got you got eight You
got eight fingers and two thumbs, all right now. I'm
gonna break one of them right now. You can take
me to get my bag right now, or I can
break one them fingers and then you have seven that
aren't broken, all right, But you wanna take me to
get my bag?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Bro, I'm done talking. I'm done talking.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Yeah, what we're going to do.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
I was looking for him yesterday, man, I've been now
I've been zigzagging through the streets because I know we're
all the I never see that.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
We told you want to flush him out, roll up
a job application and start swinging it at him.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
It's like it's like.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
It's like when you got a gold for in the backyard.
Just put a hose in the in one of the
holes and just flush them out, like as the hardest
I've laughed on the area yesterday.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
That was pretty fun.

Speaker 7 (07:42):
But now that I've been thinking about it, like I
had like horrible thoughts in my mind. Man, I'm telling you,
like very valient thoughts like I just don't like a thief.
I don't like a thief man, Like thiefs are the
worse bro.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
By the way, Brady's comment on the text chain yesterday
about what may or may not have happened in the car,
that is funny.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
That is funny.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I mean, Lee, I think that's what I've been more
concerned by it. Have you been checking for like rubbers
and whatnot?

Speaker 6 (08:14):
They call that a soup kitchen. It was only gone
for two minutes, man, That's what was so upsetting.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Ready to go?

Speaker 5 (08:23):
You know what's that supposed to mean?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
This far right here this one's going to do it.
Oh my god, this is the one.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
Oh look, door's open. They ain't smash your window to
get in. They was smashing your window cause damn you
thought they broke your window to get in.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Oh my god, that's called.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
That's called two hands on the window.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
That's called.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Especially if it was less than two minutes.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Hey, we ain't got a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
They got a whole bunch, but hey, grab that bag,
went away. I grabbed some quarters. Man, We go get
some drinks. It's the water day or eight again. I
need some rock right now?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
He sold please laptop for crack.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Just think about that.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
You want to get this laptop off?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Two three rocks one weather show on radio or television
as a producer openly talking about the fact that his
work laptop just got sold for crack.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Oh yeah, cook, you gotta have cut thing.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
That's the most professional broadcasting show of all time.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It just doesn't The oh like.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Is just so wild, man, I'm telling you.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
I mean, but people are getting robbed out here left
and right, like it ain't it ain't just they like
and then see you know, and all that stuff. People
running up in people's houses while they up in there,
I dare you to come up in here.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Hey, I'm not gonna lie either. There's a house a
few doors down from where we live. These these young
men man try to steal the same car twice, like literally,
they caught them on camera the first time, told the police.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
They tried to do it again like two days later.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm like, people are feeling boldened right now just to
do whatever they want to try to get something.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Man, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I mean it's a hell of a commitment though. They
must have really wanted that car.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
It is a unique looking car.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
It's like a blue Beamer that's kind of like a
unique blue I haven't seen that before.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
So well, listen, I know this. We've got a unique
show coming up here later on, that's for sure. We
got another edition of in case you.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Don't think it's already unique.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
I mean, go figure, what story would we talk about
off the top that would be more unique than two
bums ta tak taking a load off in the back
seat of the g and then literally now literally and
then rolling out with Lee's belongings and then say the recap.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Of it all.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Heyvoy, how would you have I mean, granted, you would
never be in that situation anyway, how would you have.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Reacted if that was you?

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Though I told you I would have ran, I would
have randomed that. First of all, I would have made
sure my doors were locked. That's first and foremost. But
if somebody did break into my car.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
There, does that say something about Lee?

Speaker 4 (11:51):
The fact that he is so willing to leave his
doors open slash unlocked?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Does that say about him?

Speaker 7 (11:57):
There are just certain people that the things that have
happened to them, you don't have to wonder why. And
I'm not saying that to be offensively. I'm just saying
there's just certain things that certain people do that you're like, oh,
that made sense, Like yeah, like they checked the door,
the door was open, Like.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
They didn't, you know, people come running, but they might
add they.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Went through the they went through the window.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
You don't really know, You don't what did we know
they might so.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
They opened the door and then just decided to bust
the window for you just never know.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Man, they're bums. You don't. You don't, you can't use logic.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I think the greater point is like when you listen
to Lavars, Like even if I was gonna go back
inside for a short amount of time his life experience
has taught him to lock the.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Door, closed door, lock the doors. Yeah, man, You, on
the other.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Hand, are like, hey, man, it's all right, I'll be
right back.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
Yep, I'm still a big deal man. You know what
the first thing he thought was when it happened.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Whiny man? Why man? What a bad things happen to
good people? Man?

Speaker 7 (12:58):
That that's and then you start to realize those same
things happened to the same people, like I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Actually really to play?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Lee, Why did you get distracted when you're going back
to your apartment?

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Oh, neighbor wanted to talk about something that female?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yes she did. Yes.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
All I'm saying is, if you were in a committed relationship,
you probably want to stop to talk as long.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
I don't know, uh, falsely at Oh you might be
right there, Brady.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
Here's what's crazy. If he was in a committed relationship,
he wouldn't have been doing what he was doing anyway.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
That it's also true. Started there right now, Yeah, let's
just start there. Oh man, Well, I don't know, but they.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
Would have probably still broke into your car. That's the
thing I would have rather than broken your car. You
just came out and you're like, they broke into my car.
The fact that you had the ability to run one
of them down and you didn't get to the other
one or hold him there and get the cops there,
like to say, like, where's the other guy with his

(14:13):
with his stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I'm just I'm just.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
That's what I keep saying. I would have I would
have been fine if it happened overnight. It would have
been like it's a numbers game. But the fact that
it happened when I was like two minutes away, when
I turned my back, made it all that much worse.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
The fact that you could catch up to one of
them and knew that there was two of them, and
you didn't do anything to get to the other one,
which was probably the best bet, but a dude like me,
I would have hurt that dude.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I wish your neighbor look like? Good question. That is
a good question. What does your neighbor look like?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (14:45):
You know that lady from uh something about Mary.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Which was which one sunbathe.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, sun sunbathing, sun tan and the whole.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Time, the leather, the leather, the leather neck. Wait a second,
I mean Lee.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
I think her name was magda a.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Lee, Yeah, Lee, same one, Yeah, same one.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
You're I mean, that's what strategy.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
I'm on the ready people who people got questions.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
You're you're leaving the h o A for starters. The
other question is, like that thought crossed your mind, didn't it?
Like you're leaving You're like, all right, this might be
a little farewell here.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
You know, you always got to keep something on the.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Back of Actually not sad. She's been on the back
ord too long.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Man, Hey, I'm telling you that she had involvement in
this whole thing.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
I think she was.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I think she was spurned. I think she was a
little bit annoyed that he was leaving. She looked at
that as like, Hey, if all else fails, just go
have a knock on Apartment six, And instead she decided,
all right, that's fine, I'll just distract him and let
a couple of bumps reach in and steal items out
of his car. I think she was involved. She needs

(16:03):
to be investigated fully, yearly, fully.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Lee, Lee will get inside that. He'll figure it out. Lee.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
If she really looked like Shorty Frokes something about Mary though, man,
like you counseling broke oh Man, Well, you need a
little Counselor.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Again, if anybody happens to see, uh, a gentleman walking
around southern California, he happens to see a gentleman walking
around Southern California with missing teeth and uh, two different
pairs of shoes on and a brand new nomadic bag,
just go ahead call the authorities or tweet us fleas

(16:47):
because Lee would like that back at some point. Plus
all his flasks, my good flasks, mane, my.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
Tealing whiskey flask, my ager mice at all my plastic flasks,
oh man, Well yeah, and my passport.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
That's why you almost beat his ass.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Oh so funny man.

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Speaker 3 (18:04):
Son Reddick officially requested a trade from the Jets on Monday,
and the Jets decided to go ahead and respond. That
was GM Joe Douglas who said the following quote. We
have informed a son that he will will not trade him,
he is expected to be here with his teammates, and
that he will continue to be fine for the CBA

(18:25):
if he does not report. Since the trade discussions back
and Marge, we've been clear, direct and consistent with our position.
Our focus will remain on the guys we have here
as we prepare for.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
The regular season.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
This doesn't appear like it's going to go anywhere anytime soon.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
Have we ever heard anything like this happen where you
had an immediate trade take place and then he wants
to be traded again?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
And football I mean, I can't quite recall something like this.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I mean, I guess my first thought goes back to
Antonio Brown going to the Raiders. You know, there's a
number of things that happened that offseason. There was the
cryo chamber foot thing. There was this whole helmet issue
and all that, and he got traded I think before
even really did he even play a season for them? No,

(19:15):
I think he got traded from Pittsburgh to the Raiders
and then he got traded to it was in New
England after that, Yes, we're released and then signed.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
By New England.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
So I mean, it was just it was the most
bizarre off season that year.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
This is.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
What's not bizarre about this is it it made complete sense.
You know, Hassan Reddick, who was a pass rush that
that showcased, the ability to get that that bag based
on how he's played the last three years, and the
Jets had a need after they let, I believe was
Hugh go over to the Eagles, and so that that kind.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Of swap made made sense.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
The fact that they for some reason didn't foresee this
being an issue, I don't know if they didn't talk
to his agent, if they didn't talk to a son retic.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
It sounds like a son Reddick.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
At least for the words and reports we're seeing from
the Jets are saying that he told them he'd play
under this contract.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
When they initially made the trade.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
But I always say, like, well, that's not the person
who you're negotiating the contract with. It's oftentimes the agent,
and unless you've gotten confirmation from the agent, that's.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Going to be the case.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Like I would never buy into what a player is
going to say, because you know, players tend to get
emotional about this stuff, as they should. It's their livelihood.
They put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into it.
So whatever was said initially upon the trade, the Jets
should have known better that they weren't just going to
bring him in and have him play a year and
then and then refits.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
The contract conversation, especially.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Considering what he's done, because that's most likely why the
Eagles trade him in the first place. Exactly, Like, here's
the twofold issue. It's either the Jets and Joe Douglas
in particular were inept and they didn't know what they
were trading for, meaning not just the player, but the
situation as well, all right, which is bad or it's

(21:07):
the other end of it. They did know and they
couldn't get it done, which is equally as bad. Like whatever, However,
what you want to slice this, however the Jets want
to try to portray this. This is a bad look
for the New York Jets to have an offseason like this.
And by the way, they're coming out saying, well, we
don't want to set the precedent. He hasn't played a
snap for us yet, okay, But other teams were able

(21:30):
to take care of businesses offseason, like the Eagles, for example,
and they don't have any issues. There's no drama like
that like the Eagles right now, zero drama whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
And that's where I look at this trade.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I go, Howie Roseman once again looks like one of
the best executives in the NFL for how he does business,
and then subsequently how other teams look in comparison to
how they do business, and then what happens other places.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
The fact that they haven't gotten it done yet is
one thing. The other the other aspect of it is
that how why would Joe Douglas make himself sound like
a d bag and in the media like that, like
we're going to just find him, like we're not where
he's supposed to be here, Like, well.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
He's not here, he's not there, and he clearly I
it's one hundred percent he ended up gets gets traded
because he wanted to redo his deal and Philly didn't
want to redo the deal.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
That's clearly what it is. Like, that's clearly what it is. Otherwise,
why do you let us on Ready go? He's one
of your he was one of your best players. He
was one of your most productive players, and and and
if and it was being discussed, it was being discussed
during the season. I believe in terms of him getting

(22:49):
an extension or something taking place, there were conversations that
actually made it to the public consumption at some point
with this, with this player, I just don't understand.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
If you're a Joe Douglas, why would you take.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
The hard line approach, well, we're going to find him,
Like it just comes across as I don't know, man,
like you trade it for this guy because you know
he feels the need for your team. If you know
he feels the need for your team, then it doesn't
even sound like they're negotiating it. You need to negotiate
and figure out what you want to do, or just

(23:25):
grant him with the witch that he wants. Why are
you trying to hold him hostage? You don't want to
you don't want to pay him, but you don't want
to see him go nowhere else. Like, come on, man,
he's he's you say he's on the last year of
his contract. You're on the last year of your contract.
You're not going to renegotiate his contract. You're You're going

(23:45):
to focus in on the players that are here and
keep finding him. So why not just let him get
a trade? Why not let him seek a trade? Like
that's that's silly.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
So uh.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Connor Hughes of s n Y had a tweet that
he sent out yesterday detailing just sort of the interaction
between the Jets and asan reddick, and we talked about
this when he did a video like I think a
couple of weeks ago at camp at Jets camp there
about the situation. But the part that I found funny
was where he writes, the Jets will not cater to

(24:17):
a player who has never played it down for them before.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
So let him go.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Okay, Well, what happened with Aaron Rodgers said, you know
what I mean, Like, well, like here's the part if
and we talked about this.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
We talked about this.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
If they fail this year, everybody's gone, Joe Douglas, Robert Sala,
Aaron Rodgers, and so the idea that well, we don't
want to send a precedent to other players that Brady
pointed out, well, dude, you should get as many good
players as you can in the building. And if that
means breaking what you normally would do in order to
get it done this year, just to keep your job,

(24:54):
that should be the priority. Like worry about that stuff
down the road. He's a great player. If this is
what it's going to take you having to give him
a contract before he shows up and it goes against
what you do, what does it matter if you're in
making a deep playoff run and everybody gets an opportunity
to come back next year. It just feels like they're
priorities about the standard and what we normally do here

(25:16):
are offline with the fact that, well, you're not going
to be doing anything there if you guys don't win,
because everybody's gone after this year.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
It just feels like it is.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
The only thing we don't know is if you know
Woody Johnson, their owner is handcuffing Joe Douglas and saying,
you know, I don't want to want you to spend
more cash or more money, like I don't want you
to cripple you know, this organization in the future because
the decisions you're making right now to survive, and you
oftentimes see that. You'll see front offices that trade away

(25:44):
a bunch of picks or phil desperate they make, they
make picks they don't feel good about, or bring in
players and spend a lot of money one offseason to
try to build up the roster and then find themselves
in cap hell, you know, come a year or two
down the road. And so oftentimes you know, owners will
have the foresight to kind of put a kebash on
that or only say there's limits to it, you know,
So we don't necessarily know what they're saying behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I would just say, like every situation with an athlete
is unique. You know, however they.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Got to the team, whether they're drafted, whether they're traded for,
whether a sign as a free agent, their their situation,
what they've accomplished, what they've done is unique. This is
when when they talk about not wanting to set a
precedent as far as having a guy be signed to
an extent, she wo hasn't played a snap for them. Okay,
he hasn't played a snap for you, but he's played

(26:34):
a lot of snaps in the NFL and he's proven
himself in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
And the truth is, you want to traded for him
if that wasn't the.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Case, so you could say that, but this is like
a separate situation as compared to DJ Reid or some
of the other players who are on the roster who
wont a new deal.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
It's different.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
And by the way, that's not saying that those guys
shouldn't get paid too. I'm just saying you already, you know,
spent capital in draft or in trading for him. You
already made this decision, like you made this bet, now
you gotta lay in it. And I know they talked about,
you know, guaranteeing his contract for this year I think,
which is roughly a little more north of fourteen million
something like that, But that's grossly underpaying him for what

(27:15):
a top edge rusher gets paid. And that's literally what
he's done the past few years, has put himself in
that conversation. He's a double DIGITSAC guy the last three years.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yep, I just did. It doesn't make any sense. I agree.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Let him grant him to grant him the right to
get a trade, man, like does grant him the right
to get a trade? Do exactly what the forty nine
ers have done. Let him see if he can get
a trade, and then the market is going to speak.
If he can't get a trade, then it's like, look,
we let you go out and seek a trade, but
we're not redoing your contract right now. So come in

(27:52):
and play, or don't come in and play. We let
you seek a trade. Now you want to come play
or not? Which is strange, because are you saying you
only want Hassan Reddick for one year, like you could say,
well he hasn't played for us, Like you're saying you're
okay with having Hassan Reddick for one year, because now

(28:13):
you've basically you've damaged the relationship beyond repair. So why
even draw heart line that way? Why not endear yourself
to the player. He is a productive player. This isn't
like you said. This isn't like a normal situation. You're
getting an elite pass rusher. That's what he brings to
the table, and he's shown it because his track record

(28:34):
has proven it. I just don't I don't understand why
they would take such a hard line stance on not
paying the man. It doesn't and if you not going
to pay him, then at least handle this scenario much
differently than what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
It just doesn't sound like it's being handled correctly.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
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Speaker 3 (29:05):
So, speaking of the Olympics, we might have ourselves a
brand new feud in the world of sports. How about
Noah Lyles and Tyreek Hill. So Tyreek Hill was smearing
it up with Kay Adams on her podcast.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Maybe getting a lot of interviews lately. Man, Gee, she's
been knocking it out.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, she's definitely, Yeah, she's I mean, everybody's everybody's going
on that show. Apparently that is always always getting quality
guests as she goes from training camp to training camp,
And Tyreek Hill was asked about Noah Lyles and some
comments from Noah Liles, and it went down.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Like this sprinter Noah Liles.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
She said that Super Bowl champs should not consider themselves
world champions.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 8 (29:53):
No Allwles can't say nothing after way, it just happened
to him. You know what I'm saying? Any want to
come out and put hama he's sick. I feel like
that's that's like horse rat is shit. So for him
to like do that and say that we're not world
champions of like our sport and like, come on, bro,
like just speak on what you know about you know
what I'm saying, and that's track.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Would you race him when he gets home?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
I will beat no Allows? You think I will beat
no Allows? I would't beat him by alive, but I
would beat no Allow. Like to see that happen.

Speaker 8 (30:23):
And guess what when I beat him, I'm gonna put
on a covered mass and let him know what I
mean business.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
He wasn't hold back at all that. I love his confidence. Man.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
I mean I don't know that he I don't think
he's gonna beat him in the one hundred. I think
he I think he could beat him. In the forty
yard dash. Maybe it's sixty because Lyles does not get
out of the blocks very well and Tyreek Hill does,
so I think he'd have a shot and a shorter
race like that, or it takes Lyles, you know, he
doesn't have that the ability to get up the top

(30:59):
speed in the second half.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Of that one hundred meter. You know, it's ridiculous, Like
it's it's great. It's great to chop it up that.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
Way and and and speak confidently and you know, defend
you know, other sports. But I mean, no, Allows is
like probably the most elite sprinter in the world right now.
He ain't beating them. It's not going to be a race. No,
don't think a forty yards as you could, No, not
with his slow start in all he would not be

(31:31):
He's not in the same class as No Allows as
a sprinter.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Did he run a sixty meter in like a race
somewhat recently?

Speaker 7 (31:40):
He ran one and maybe a year ago or something
like that, and like some type of like junior and no,
I won't I don't want to Junior Olympics, but it
was some type of some type of qualifier something to
that effect. Bottom line is he wouldn't beat No Allows
and listen, I get the cat.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Just give you this, let me give you this.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
In March twenty twenty three, he ran a six seven
sixty with no training, which is fourth tenths off the world.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Record Tyreek Hill did.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yes, damn, he would not beat No Allows. You don't
think he could an affordy or so?

Speaker 4 (32:16):
No, I do, bet I bet you could actually probably
break down like through the splits where they would have.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Been at you know, I don't know. I just don't.
It wouldn't happen.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Is there a way to do that? On uh lead,
on the gold medal one hundred meter that he just won?
Is there a way to break down where he was
at by increments? Because to Brady's point, he did start slow,
which is why he had to close so strong.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
He was dead last after forty meters. So that's what
That's what I'm trying to That's what I'm trying to explain,
is like he was last blocks he's a world class sprinter.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Are you always siding with track and field people and not?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
What do you mean? It's not it's not even bough,
it's not even a real debate.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
Eight Like he would not beat no Allows at any
point would he beat no Allows?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I don't know about that. I would give Tyreek Hill.
If it was a ten yard sprint, i'd give him.
My money would be on Tyreek twenty. Definitely on Tyreek
after that, and then we maybe maybe ten.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
But I don't know that that's really sprinting, you know,
ten yards, Like the bottom line is the shortest race
that they have in the Olympics. I mean, I think
they do the sixty in indoor something like that, but
the shortest race is one hundred meters. He ain't winning,
He's not. Even if they had him in an entire heat,

(33:38):
he wouldn't. He probably would be close to the back.
He would be close to the back.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I mean, it's there's just a it's a different that's
a different world when you're talking sprinter as a football
player and sprinter as as a sprinter. It's it's just
it's different.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
Like there's been a couple that you could row in there,
like Willie gold is one of those names. I think
Jet was like a big time track guy. I mean
Santana Moss and those guys ran in college.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
But when you're.

Speaker 7 (34:12):
Talking world class sprinter that goes and wins the gold medal.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
That's not I don't see that as that's not a
good debate.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
All right, I got an idea for you guys. You
tell me if this is crazy, because if this is
gonna happen, it's got to happen soon. Is Tyreek Hill
got a little banged up last year. He's also thirty
years old, so if he's in the thirties, maybe the
speed starts to diminish a little bit, maybe the injuries
start to pile up. At this point of his NFL career.

(34:44):
What do you say, Labor Day weekend? Netflix has already
got Joey Chestnut versus Kobayashi in a hot dog eating contest.
How about Noah Lyles versus Tyreek Hill seventy meters?

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I will watch it. I will watch it.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean, come on, like, you're not interfering with anything
NFL related, all right, it's Labor Day weekend. Yeah, you
might steal some shine from college football, but it's not
gonna last long. We're talking what ten seconds of your time?

Speaker 7 (35:17):
Like, what if he's going to beat If he's going
to beat Noah, it's going to be nine seconds, it's
going to be under ten and if I if I
saw it correctly, well, then again it would be it
would be nine if we're doing seventy meters, so it
wouldn't be ten seconds.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I'm trying to.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Pull up his one hundred meters from the Olympics, but
I don't have his splits there.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I do have a split.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
From a race a year ago, though, that he won
with a nine to eight to three.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So that is flying. It is flying. But what do
you think is ten yard ten meters start? Was?

Speaker 4 (35:54):
I don't know, a one to ninety three, which I
can guarantee you. I will guarantee you the ten yards
split from Tyreek Hill's forty yard dash was somewhere around
one six.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
And as long as ten meters, I get that. Yeah,
I'm just saying, though it only goes up from there.
He only gets faster from there and through forty meters
he ran a four to seven six, which is so
Again it's it's not comparable because of the meter to
a yard. However, it gives you some indication of that.
And I think Tyreek Hill is a legit four to

(36:31):
three guy.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
He would not beat no allows And you think a
forty yard dash he'd have a shot. Man. I think
I think you're you should be repping a football player here.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Man, I'm really disapointed by it.

Speaker 7 (36:44):
I just just I know, world class sprinting versus like
somebody who's fast football fast fast like it. It's different.
It's just a different type of fast man, That's all
I say I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
About you know.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I just I thought that, like you would have supported
the football player, and instead you're going with the track guy.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
So I don't understand what that means.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
And I'm just like, you know, we're football guys here
on this show, and I'm just you're always siding with
the track and field guys.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
All right.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
What about the fact that what if they raced with
COVID masks on a couple of n ninety fives out
there running a seven?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Maybe if they race with equipment on, I might give
it to Tabreek keel.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Shoulder pads, you know, yeah maybe that.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I mean, we worked that one.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
I just think, uh, you know, there's an opportunity here,
but it's got to happen fast, gotta have. Noah Lyles
feels like he's rubbed some people the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well he has. He I mean, he's he's a he's
a big personality. I mean, he he talks. He talks
a lot. You know, he's one of those fingernail painting
dudes as well. He's very colorful dude. No, he does
paint his fingernails. I mean he does.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
He's a he's I mean, he's a personality and and
and he makes it a point to try to say
things that he he feels. Puts track and field in
the front of mind of people. You know, he's trying
to grow the sport. That's that's something that's pretty important
to him. So but I mean, was it a misstep

(38:14):
with the whole COVID thing.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I don't know. I just think that he had COVID.

Speaker 7 (38:18):
I mean that's I didn't think that there was any
type of conspiracy connected to it.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I just thought he had. The dude had COVID. I mean,
but if he got sick or banged up from partying
or whatever it may be, I don't look. I don't
I don't.

Speaker 7 (38:30):
Look at for all the details unless it gets reported.
And that's what's out because I wasn't there, so I'm
not breaking the news. All I know is the dude's
main his main event is the two hundred meters, Like,
there's no way I would have said, Okay, he loses
in the two hundred and wins the one hundred. I
wouldn't have thought that would have happened. But that's what happened,

(38:53):
and it is what it is. But I mean, I
think it's good for sports talk that that Tyreek Hill
took offense to it. I mean he did, he did
take aim at like that wasn't like he said a
while back something to the effect of, how do you
call yourself a world champion? You know, unless this is
the same quote, how do you call yourself a world

(39:15):
champion when you've only won in America, like you've only
won a super Bowl, or you've only won in the NBA,
you know, championship. How do you call yourself a world champion?
And I mean to that point, I mean.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
He's not lying. I mean, is he lying?

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Well, no, But I think it'd be ignorant to think that,
what is there another competitive league or a country that
would be able to compete at the NFL level, to
know it for the even for the NBA, it's there's
a ton of international players, like we all kind of
look at them, and even all of our professional sports
teams and say these are the best, whether it's you.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
Know, it is a little but that's a little like
it's a little kind of like.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Well, okay, i'll go I'll go this, I'll go this
far into it.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Then if you really want to get into it, the
Olympics aren't always a display of the best athletes at
those sports.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Well that's the World.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Championships actually, year in and year out allow for more competition.
There's limits to how many athletes you can bring per
certain teams and sports, and there's obviously, as we've seen
in boxing, there's some different controversial things, but there's times
when the people are are not allowed.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
To compete based on certain things. So if you really
want to go and.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
Do what you have about it, all I know is
deep dive, shallow, dive shallow. How if you're competing in
a competition that brings all of the nations together to
compete against, that makes you a world chat.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
If you win a goal, you're world chat.

Speaker 7 (40:47):
Like you're if you go to the the what is
it called the worlds what what is it called the
bigger or the one that has more people? The world
champion World Championships, Yeah, that's the World you're competing against
guys in the World World eight.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I mean, you do it. You're right, you do it
in these pro sports. You're right.

Speaker 7 (41:05):
But it's still in America, that's all I'm saying, Like
it's the.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Super Bowl in London. Would that change?

Speaker 7 (41:11):
No, because there weren't people in London competing.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Right, But you still do have the opportunity for international
players to play in the NFL, It's all.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
That's that's very true, and they do and they do.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
My brother played semi pro football in Denmark and Italy
and showed me pictures.

Speaker 7 (41:29):
Of his had he won a champion. I can't assure
he would not have been a world champion.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
You're to assure you they were not qualified to play
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
They were not.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
That was not the place for them.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Lee.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
We have an update on some of these split times
for Noah Lyles and Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Not necessarily split times, but some interesting stats. So this
just recently just came out yesterday from CBS Sports.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Comparing the two.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
Hill had to hit a top speed of twenty three
point two four miles per hour on a kickoff return
of course with pads on, which is four miles per
hour slower than where Noah lyles fastest time was during
his one hundred meter sprint. And also if you look
at the forty yard dashes, of course, Tyry ran a
four to two nine he did dang yeah, and his
combine four too, And Noah Lyles has recorded a forty

(42:14):
yard dash at four to two one, which it matches
Xavier Worthies combine record.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
So maybe Xavier Worthy should actually be the one racing him.
M hm, xavi you' Worthy would have a chance in
the forty and would not win in the hundred. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
I don't think anyone's debating outside of Tyreek Hill that Tyrek.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Kill would win into one hundred. I'm surely not.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
I think I've made a strong case for I'm not
making a house slow. He is out of the blocks.
He is slow out of the blocks. That's how it is.
He is he is.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
You're right, but he ain't beating me, That's all I know.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
I'd give him a shot. I'll give him a shot
at a forty. Yeah, but if he if he's got COVID,
maybe you know it slows him up.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
True, I mean it slowed him up in the Olympics. Yeah,
not the parting later that night. But that's too Did
he have a mask on while he was parting? No,
that was that was kind of the controversy about it.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yeah, I'm gonna support the football guy. I'm a football
guy through and through, so I'm definitely gonna go with
Tyree Hill.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Here my uh my choosing
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