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October 9, 2024 53 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Woody Johnson unexpectedly fires Robert Saleh, continuing dysfunction in New York. Patriots march Drake Maye out for his debut vs the Texans. And The Old P, Petros Papadakis joins the guys as the Dodgers are on the verge of another October exit.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and with Lamar, Rady
Winn and Jonas Knots on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Somebody be beating the hell out of this all button. Damn,
it's it's all the weight mangled Doug. I mean, who
gets that valid with this button?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Man?

Speaker 4 (00:35):
I wonder who sits there outside? I mean, I know
of one, but I don't. I doubt he hits it.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
That all that's Ben. Ben's too much of a professional.
Do uh who that?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
I mean he just said the name I know, but
this is race I don't know in there.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Look, bro, look at that knocking that thing from time
to time. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
But whoever it is, they bang this boy. That makes
no sense. I've never been one to say, like you
know what I mean, like why would you break something
that doesn't belong to you?

Speaker 5 (01:13):
But anyway, a digress, Come on, let's start the show man. Well,
it is two pros and a cup of Joe.

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Speaker 6 (01:48):
I was just to be really surprised at the news
of Robert Salah yesterday. Of course you were, but not
surprising the sense that he got fired. Surprising the sense
that it happened as quickly as it did. And then
you see the reporting coming out afterwards about well, you know,
he was planning on moving on from Nathaniel Hacket, or

(02:10):
at least take it away play calling duties from him,
and then he went into a meeting himself right after
that and found out that he was going to be
let go. Woody Johnson, the owner of the New York Jets,
actually spoke yesterday to the media and explained his decision
that this is one of the most talented teams that
has ever been assembled by the New York Jets.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
I wanted to give this team the most opportunity to
win this season.

Speaker 8 (02:36):
I feel that.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
We had to go in a different direction, and that's
why I did that today.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
This change, the change that we made.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
Today that I made I believe will bring new energy
and positivity that will lead to more wins starting now.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Oh so, whoever like you're rich jeff olbrick All, brick Olbriceri,
your your it's not your it.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
It's not your it.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
No, that's a that's a Hawaii rainbow warrior by the way,
pointed out, well, I better you better be chasing.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
He better be chasing the end of that rainbow. He's
looking for the pot of gold.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Let me tell you something that man said, I made
a decision that will start leading to wins.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Now what day to day to day?

Speaker 6 (03:26):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Just you have at it. I'll follow you up on
this one.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I just again, I said it while Jonas was doing
his read. That dysfunction will supersede anything that anyone does.
I don't care who you put at coach. I don't
care who you put at quarterback. It's not going to work.

Speaker 8 (03:54):
Now.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
This man sat here and said, we're going to start winning. Now.
Are they going to beat Buffalo on Monday? Doubt it.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Do they have a chance to beat the Steelers? Sure,
they have a chance to beat the Stellers, But will
they beat them? Probably not. Okay, then they get a
nice little reprieve. Then Wood, he can say, you know what, well,
it was only two games. It was only two games
that we lost. We needed to give your time to
get his feet under him. And when I meant we're

(04:23):
gonna win now, I meant when we played the Patriots. Oh, okay,
you got one against the Patriots. But then you have
the Houston Texans next. And oh, by the way, the
Cardinals just beat a pretty good San Francisco forty nine
or team. They're a pretty good team. Oh by the way,
the Colts aren't going to be a walk in the park.
They're not too bad either. They got a guy by
the name of Flacco that's in there just in case

(04:44):
the dude Richson doesn't make it back. Pretty decent team.
Seattle Seahawks, same deal, pretty decent team. You are not
in a position to actually assume or think that your
coaching change is going to lead to different results. Now

(05:08):
you may get that initial pop boom, like we got
a new coach.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Now Aaron Rodgers is poised because he got.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
His way again or whatever it may be, and him
and Nathaniel Hackett get to do what they want to
do and tell you're it.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Just stay out of the way and run the defense.
I don't know. Well, I'm gonna tell you right now, if.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Anybody, including Woodie Johnson, if anybody thinks that this team
is going to magically turn it around, you need to
take a look in the mirror and you need to
identify what it is that has you approaching life the
way that you're approaching life, because it doesn't work that way.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
It doesn't.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
It is not a magical fix. Robert Salah was the problem.
He's gotta go eh, okay, okay, and in the season,
by the way, because here's the thing. If you had
a problem with Salah to the point of where you
would fire him after how many games?

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Five games? What? Four games? Five games? Five games?

Speaker 4 (06:15):
If you had that much of an issue with him,
when Aaron Rodgers showed you that his strong hand was
strong and went to Egypt and didn't want to do
the training camp or the mini camp that should have
been when you let him go, let him go, then
give the coach who's going to coach an opportunity to

(06:36):
actually be able to build on some momentum as to
what you're going to do. Now, I will say this,
they do have the idea of the understanding and the
familiarity of Hackett and Rogers. But what does that mean
for the rest of your team? Because your defense is underperformed,
like literally grossly underperformed. They have not lived up to expectations,

(07:00):
and your offense has not lived up the expectations. And
Nathaniel Hackett, I think, I believe, is the one that's
been calling the plays. So if you think something's going
to magically change, a shift is going to take place.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Robert Salah was a cancer. He was the problem.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
He was the one that brought this team down to
its knees.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
If you believe that, then God bless you in good
luck with your life. Here you go. You can have it, Q,
you can have it.

Speaker 9 (07:33):
Well, I've got a got just more questions than anything else.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
I look at this and.

Speaker 9 (07:38):
I wonder, you know, did ultimately Woody Johnson make this decision?
You know, you read different reports, you read different questions
about why now why after a game over in London,
it is because he was the former US ambassador and
he's around all his buddies over there, you have this

(08:00):
disappointing loss. Mind you, it's not really disappointing. I mean,
Minnesota is one of the best teams in the NFL.
That being said, game didn't go how you wanted it to, you,
you know, is that part of it? Is it because
it's early enough, you still have a chance to climb
back into this if you can create a spark, And
it felt like this team was devoid of any sort

(08:22):
of energy or spark, so maybe you get a little.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Bit of that bounce. Did this have to do with
Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 9 (08:28):
What was this one of those scenarios where he calls
up whatdy Jonathan says, you got to get rid of
this guy? Or is it the fact that Salah didn't
want to fire Nathaniel Hackett was staying loyal to him.
Instead wanted to push for Todd Downing to call plays,
which it sounds like jeff Oldbrick's going to do that anyway.

(08:49):
Maybe that's going to be more of the case. Whatever
the case may be. I just wonder why they feel
like this is gonna do anything other than create dysfunction,
create distractions, create issues for their organization. I mean, I'll

(09:09):
pose this question, when's the last time a team fired
a coach and made the playoffs?

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Bisaccia?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
But I mean that was, you know, twenty twenty one,
and I can't think of a lot of other examples
after that, Like he took over for Gruden and they
went to the postseason, but.

Speaker 9 (09:29):
Which by the way, fired because of something else that
kind of came.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Up, but it wasn't really in regards to.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Like performance, right, and this this feels like it's more
performance based.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
But it doesn't feel like Robert Sala.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Since Aaron Rodgers has gotten there has been the head
coach that's totally in control.

Speaker 9 (09:52):
It feels like it's more about Rogers. And obviously Rogers
has Woody Johnson's ear. And remember this is a very
very different structure with the Jets compared to what the
Packers used to be. You know, even if the Packers,
you know, even if he wanted to, you know, try
to buddy up to someone, there's a board, it's publicly owned.

(10:14):
The Packers make much slower decisions. He understands when he
went to the New York Jets. As long as he
has Woody Johnson's ear, he can enact whatever change he
wants with a snap of the fingers.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
He used the fans in green Bay, that public, He
used that public in Green Bay the same exact way.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
Yeah, And the interesting thing is, I don't I don't
know how Jets fans feel about him.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
I don't know if they, Well, it doesn't matter, right
because he has the owner, so he doesn't fans.

Speaker 9 (10:42):
But the owner also has listened to the fans in
the past, which is why he's made you know, which
is why there's been dysfunction. Right, There's always been some
degrees to dysfunction. I just look at it like, who
could be the ultimate culprit of their team struggling right now?
And I want under what percentage is on Robert sala

(11:03):
versus I don't know Joe Douglas. Joe Douglas has made
it through multiple regimes now, I mean at some point,
like what's.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
His role in all this? Just building the roster, that's it.
It just it seems.

Speaker 9 (11:15):
Odd the timing. It seems odd that it had to
be Salah when it feels like it should be Hacket.
If anyone who's just not a good play caller, not
not he might be a good quarterback coach, he might
be good buddies with Aaron. He's not a good he's
not a good offensive mind.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
He's just not.

Speaker 6 (11:31):
I had forgotten until I had read this yesterday that
he had never called plays in Green Bay like so
this like when he came over here and started to
the Jets and started calling plays, he'd never done it before.
And so when you hear the report come out that
Sala wanted to either fire him or remove play calling
duties from and give him to Todd Downing. And then

(11:52):
right after that gets clipped himself and I scored it
out of the building reportedly.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Can I just add to y'all's point, especially to Q's point,
you know, on the one constant that isn't up for
debate that's been a part of all of it is
the owner.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Oh that's the name.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
That's the name that has because you know what we
conveniently do and we're so the media is good at it,
the fans are good at it. Everybody's good at it.
Everybody be raining down on Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones.
Jerry Jones. Jerry is the problem. Jerry is the problem.
Who else is the problem?

Speaker 5 (12:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Jerry Jones, Maybe it's McCarthy. Maybe Jerry Jones has always
been the constant with the whatever you see take place
in Dallas.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
And you know what Jerry Jones owned it on the radio.
He did it. I own it.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Woody Johnson is the consistent and Woody Johnson is his
own problem.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
He's a disaster. That's the bottom line. Like that just
has to be stated.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
It takes a special kind of dysfunction to chase off
Belichick and Parcels.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
He did that.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
Like Woody Johnson was at the Helm when that stuff happened.
And you see all these years later that they're still
going through this myriad of coaches all.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
The I watched it happen, bro I watched, I was
a part of I had more. I've said this story.
We've been on air long enough where here's a repeat
story I've been on. I was on an organization where
I had more head coaches than I did years in
the league at one point, what do you mean, Tim?

(13:32):
The Redskins all the time. They're now the Commanders now,
but they were the Redskins back then. And I had
more head coaches than I did years in the league.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
I had eight. For the years that I was.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
An All Pro and went to the Pro Bowls, I
had a different defensive coordinator every single season.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Are you a coach? Killer?

Speaker 9 (13:57):
Is someone who played for the Browns. All right, okay,
here you go, well, join on if we want to
share these war.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
It's like jows where you're comparing stars.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
I got to talk about head coaches, dcs, general managers.
If you're a Cleveland Browns fan, different general managers they've had.
And here's the thing for me is think about it.
I had three coaches in Denver in two years.

Speaker 9 (14:25):
I get traded at Denver, Josh mc daniels gets fired,
Eric Studisville comes in the next year, John Fox is hired.
I mean, it's just I'm telling you, man, when when
you see dysfunction and and here's the thing here, what's
what's really interesting about this is New York comes to mind.
The Jacksonville Jaguars are another team that comes to mind,

(14:45):
even though they got to win this past week. You
know you you heard what he John say, this is
the most talented roster we've ever assembled.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Who else said that this offseason? Shod con shod con.
Part of the issue.

Speaker 9 (14:58):
I think what you're starting to see, or what's being revealed,
is David Tepper talking to you. Every one of these
owners that medals Jimmy has them talking to you. Every
one of these owners that medals in this, you end
up not being any good. You just do like, this

(15:22):
is not where you made your money, This is not
what you're good at. What I don't understand talking to
you owners right now. What I don't understand is you
have made millions upon millions, maybe billions of dollars, and
you're smart enough to know.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
What you don't know. And what do you do.

Speaker 9 (15:42):
You hire someone to go get you those answers to
figure it out. Yet when it comes to professional sports,
you then medal in it. You get involved, You act
like all of a sudden you're an expert because you're
smart in some other capacity, smart in some other realm
that is not football.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
That's not how it works. This is not a board
room somewhere in Manhattan.

Speaker 9 (16:08):
This is a different world, as LaVar would say, it's
the Serengetti. Yeah, and you don't know how to You
don't even know how to understand that. They've got to
do a better job of hiring people. And stop meddling,
stop being involved. Let the people work, Let the football
people do their thing, and let them run it. And
don't let a player over extend his power. Let the

(16:32):
head coach, let the general manage let them do their thing.
I was at the Jets raft of year. Upon walking
in there in one week, I could tell there's dysfunction
there between the head coach and the general manager. You
can just tell there was a lack of communication. Didn't
feel like they were on the same page. It was
that sort of kind of tense feeling the way the
team was and players were around kind of everything. You

(16:54):
just get that sense and a feel when you go
to different organizations.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
It's to me.

Speaker 9 (16:59):
It's a top down deal from the ownership and how
it impacts everyone else in the building. And for some reason,
these owners they keep thinking they have all the answers
and that's just not the case.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Man.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
I feel, and I don't want to, you know, make
it seem like I'm trying to fan boy up for
Robert Salah because he had his shortcomings. The it's documented
on this show. We talked about the Zach Wilson handling, like.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
All that stuff but not great.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
I mean, there's a lot of you know, moments there
where you look back the record everything that came along
with it. But I do feel like I kind of
have some sympathy towards Robert Salah in the sense that
it felt like he was And we talked about this
last week, totally dorm atted on his way out of
the door, where he had to backtrack on comments about

(17:47):
Rogers going to Egypt and smoking weed with a camel
during the offseason, he had to backtrack on the comments
about the cadence. He was on the sidelines trying to
give him a hug, and Rogers shoved him away, like
just to see how all that play out.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Like he was totally powerless towards.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
The end, and I think he wanted them to be
so good and he was so desperate for it that
he was just willing to accept it and keep his
mouth shut because look, as long as we if we
win games, I'm gonna get to keep my job now
I know.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
And now I.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
Just wonder who's going to be the first because he
probably can't go public or else. I don't know if
that's breach of contract and he's not gonna be able
to get the rest of whatever he's.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Owed by the Jets.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
But who's going to be the first to get through
real story from Robert Sola because he's gonna have some
things to say. Jay Glazer spoke with him. I guess
and Robert Sola was shocked at the decision. I just wonder,
at what point does he start to.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Air peeces not going to be an airing out because
I think so, because that severance package is going to
be pretty strong.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
I mean, he could anonymously go to a reporter and
here's how. That's not how. I can damn not going
to hear anything. Nothing, amatoria nature, you can't do it.
I'm telling you. If you want all that cash.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
I mean it's true because I mean, you know who's
been collecting you know who's been collecting checks.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
You never heard a damn thing from Adam. Adam Gaze
probably has a lot of stories. Haven't heard anything from him,
just kind of sitting I do wonder what he's thinking
right now. I do wonder I have to reach out
to Goose.

Speaker 9 (19:24):
I just this wild man, just now that that Brady
does flex on us right now.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
He was my quarterback coach. Reach out Goose? What a Goose?
What's happening in Goose? Yeah he's two be coach. Baby.
There's a list of people listening to the show laughing
right now, like I'm good, But think about what do
you think?

Speaker 9 (19:46):
Joe Douglas is doing pretty good, Joe Douglas because she
keeps kind of fun.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Joe Douglas is like who.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
He's like, he's trying bulky down there in Jacksonville. I
got this cheese marking for your air.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
You want to see you know the part on Boogie
Nights where Don Cheetle goes into the donut shop and
all of a sudden there's a robbery and everybody gets
killed except him, Like Joe Dunk's probably looking around going
what happened? Like he's got blood all over him and
he's just gonna walk out with a bag of cash,
Like I have no idea what's just happened here?

Speaker 5 (20:21):
But you know, good job Joe, whatever it is. You
know what do we do?

Speaker 9 (20:27):
Not want to play any any sound from Jeff Ulbrick's
press conference.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Nothing. Yeah, we have what do we want to go
with with Olbrick?

Speaker 6 (20:34):
There, Lee, you call it his relationship with Rogers, his
relationship with Rogers or you want team changes?

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Which do you which do you prefer?

Speaker 6 (20:44):
All right, so we're gonna go with this is Jeff
Ulbrick being asked about potential changes on the staff.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Comes to the team underperforming the last this season.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Do you think there has to be radical changes or
do you think you guys have to do what you've
been doing, but do it better.

Speaker 10 (20:58):
I think everything's on the table right now. We're not
playing to our to our potential. We're not you know,
we're too talented to be putting the product we put
out there the last couple of weeks especially, so we
got to take a hard look at everything and be
honest with ourselves.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
So there he is, well, respect sounds like Aaron Rodgers.
They got to be held accountable except Aaron.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
But does he have a good relationship with Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 6 (21:21):
Though? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:22):
I mean does he a coach? You tell me, you
tell us coach.

Speaker 10 (21:26):
He's one of those guys that has you know, he's
just unbelievable experience and he's seen this game at at
the highest level for a long time. So he's a
guy with a lot of ideas and really positive feedback
about a lot of different things, whether it be meetings, practice,
game planning, scheduling, all of it.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
You know, So he will be a vital resource for
me in that way. For sure, they're screwed. They're screwed.
There came up in there and took hostage bag.

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Speaker 6 (22:16):
We get some good news. If you are Drake may Well,
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
I don't know if it's good news.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
He's going to be the starting quarterback for the New
England Patriots. He will get the nod now they've been brutal.
That was kind of the projection going into the season,
and so Drake may will get the opportunity to be
the starter for the Patriots moving forward. That was announced yesterday,
and as Eddie mentioned, Derek Carr's got this oblique injury.
He's going to be out indefinitely, which means potentially Jake

(22:47):
Hayner gets the opportunity to be the starter. The Fresno
State Bulldog or the damn Rattlesnake out of South Carolina
Spencer rat.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Uh oh, what is that? That's the rattlesnake.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Rattlesnake. Oh my gosh, that's a rattlesnake. That doesn't sound
like a rattlesnake that one hundred percent sounds like a rattlesnake.
That sounds like a rattle. That doesn't sound like a rattle.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
That's what a rattlesnake sounds like. Bro kind of sounded
like a rattle. You sound more like a rattle. There
you go that one, right though? Yeah, way Jonas, do yours?
I like yours? It doesn't sound you know. I was like,
get back to me, get back to me. On game Day.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
You remember Medusa and in a clashing of the type,
the original one though, the snake Yeah, yeah, yeah, it
kind of sounds it kind of sounds like both of them.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
And by the way, you want to you want to
feel old, go back and watch that movie, the graphics
and all that. The graphics. Yeah, I kind of like
that though.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Man.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I kind of appreciate those old ass movies like that.
The first Godzilla movies. You could tell they were hand puppets.
They were people running in lego cities. I was like, man,
it's like lockiness monster. It's like some guy with the
long arms and a sock on his hand. It's not actually.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
And we bought it though, Yeah, read every book on
it all right, So Drake May. Uh, yes, they're not
a very good team, but don't you have to just
see what you have at this point? Brady, Like, isn't
this like like let's let's see what we got in
Drake May, Like, let's throw him out there?

Speaker 5 (24:24):
You know? Is that what we got to do?

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Yeah, I mean, the season's over, just throw them out
there like it's uh like it's shoving the waters, Yeah,
right before you know, let's let's see what we got here,
you know, pleasant little diversionary tactic. Potentially with the whole
jaburo Peppers story, that's.

Speaker 9 (24:39):
This feels a little bit like an episode of Jaws,
but with quarterbacks a little bit. No, although I know
it's one of your favorite What scene would best epitomize
what throwing Drake May is behind this offense?

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Be Oh?

Speaker 6 (24:52):
I mean in a couple of weeks, it would be
the lady's leg floating up to the man in the
water early on, like that would probably be it. And
then as far as Spencer Rattler, it feels like it's
a better situation.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
I'm curious to see what it's a different situation.

Speaker 9 (25:10):
Yeah, I mean, granted they've they've had a losing streak,
but it's due to injury.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
It's not like when when car can come back, he's
coming back, he's playing. This is different. This is this
is like, hey, we're not winning.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
We need a spark. We got to throw in Drake May.
Like at least the Saints won a couple of games
to start the year, it's not the case for New England.
They lack competitiveess. Their defense keeps them in games, but
offensively they don't have much else going on. So, uh, look,
it's great he gets some burn time. They see what
they got in him. It's gonna be a tough task.

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I mean, they've they've got to try to do a
lot to this roster to help improve, you know, the
quarterback's ability to be effective, because they just they don't.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Have that right now.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
And it's not like Drake May is a dynamic type
rusher where he can make up for the lack of
talent around him and be able to do with his legs.

Speaker 9 (26:01):
That's not his game. He's not Jayden Daniels. So that
makes it even that much more difficult. You know, he's
going to see the kitchen sink of looks. Team's gonna
play a lot more man and varieties of man against them,
amongst the zone coverages because they're not scared about him
taking off. He's capable, but it's it's again not dynamic
like Jaden Daniels, who's a rookie and who's flourishing, and

(26:24):
in part because again teams are limited in what they
can do against them. That's one of the best things
about being a dual threat quarterback is when you can
take off and run and teams show you man to man.
Edward's got their backs turned. There's a lot of yards
to be made, and you do it once in a game.
It scares every defensive coordinator out of running at the
rest of the game. So it simplifies what you see.

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Drake may he's he's going to see it all. It's
to be a lot more difficult for him.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
You know, I just wonder if the supporting cast, no,
are are going to be a what.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
Well, I was gonna ask you this what all right? Well,
you're you're a defender. You find out a rookie's making
his first start in the NFL with a team already
in duress. Yes, I'm going to get it. I'm gonna
go get these stats. I'm going to get these status
at game. Let's say you're in your Pro Bowl.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Stack game.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
That game, I don't care what his name is either,
it's a stack game because the team is in duress,
you know what I mean, Like they're they're they're throwing
him in and out. That could be a recipe for
disaster for us as defenders, cause he could come out
and light us up. But looking at them, being a

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one win team, they're struggling.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
They pulled, they pulled the guy that.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
They felt was the better guy, and they're putting in
the younger guy, which means that for us our my
my interpretation is it's an act of desperation, you know.
So to me, we're going out there and it's like
call my number, call my number, man, Like I this

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is a blitz game for me, Like let's but that's
that's as a linebacker. That's as a you know, a
splitting duties linebacker from pass rusher to playing to run.
But that's even fun to be able to play the run.
It's even fun to be able to play the play
the pass because they they manage. This is what I
do know. Drake May is going to be asked to

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manage the game.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I don't look at when it when you're you're bringing
in a rookie to be a game manager in his
first game out, I don't see them doing too many
things that are exotic. I don't see them doing too
many things that are off the beating path of what
it is that they're going to do personality wise as
an offense. And so my preparation would be there's going

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to be shorter, quicker passes. They're going to try to
get it as close to him as they can, or
whatever it is that he feels most comfortable with, so
he might be good at throwing it out in the flats,
you know, whatever.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
It may be.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
I'm gonna be anticipate and drop offs to the to
the to the running back, but I'm going to anticipate
a lot of run until they get to a point
of where they have to be forced the pass. That's
what I would assume. That's what I would assume, because
you don't want him to be the reason why you
lose the game. You don't want to put too much
on him coming into a situation where it's a one

(29:32):
win team with four losses and you're asking him to
what save the team I don't think so. So as
a defender, you know, you're probably coming into this game
super confident in terms of what type of stat line
you're going to be able to get, whether it be
a corner or safety, or whether it be somebody who's

(29:54):
up front. That's that's how you that's how they're probably
viewing this going get into the game. They have again
Texan Texans, Yeah, yeah, they definitely, Yeah, they're pretty good.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Drake.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Drake May's got the Texans to uh to open up
his NFL career as a starter, So that'll be easy,
easy go. I gotta feel like, what would be the
play call just to try and get rid.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Of any of the nerves early on, like Brady, what
would you what would you have told?

Speaker 8 (30:24):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Shot? Yeah, just if you want you want to play
action shot.

Speaker 9 (30:30):
You know that's that's usually not like what Lee's talking about.
I know, back there somewhere at least bartender bartender, Yeah,
you know, we're talking about the type of shot that
you run the ball a couple of times, a little
play action with some big personnel. So you know you're
gonna get like a post size safety, you know, go

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throw up one of those good old deep posts with
like a crossing route to open up one of the two,
and you just allow him to let it loose. Man,
just heave that thing, get all those nerves and all
the anxiousness out, put a lot of air on it.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Let the guy go run underneath it. Maybe get a pi.

Speaker 9 (31:07):
And look if it gets picked off, you just see
it's kind of like a pun, you know, just chalk.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
It up there. There you go.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
He does have a holitzer. You can sling at us
an arm the rattle.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
It's pretty stroke. Sound like Joe Milton though, Joe Milton.
Joe Milton has a holitzer.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
By the way, is Milton dressed this year for the Patriots?
As he suited up?

Speaker 9 (31:27):
Well, there's a third quarterback designation, so you know he
probably could even though he's not active.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yeah, well, good luck to them. That'll be a fun one.
I mean.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
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Speaker 6 (31:47):
All right, so we do have the old pew yes,
so we got you there. He is bam, Good morning,
Good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Good morning, sir, all.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
Right, so let's check in on the level of the
Pans one to ten. Where are we at after the
Dodgers losing Game three last night to the Pods.

Speaker 8 (32:07):
Well, I mean, are you surprised?

Speaker 11 (32:12):
Didn't I tell you this was gonna Happenang?

Speaker 6 (32:16):
I mean, you know, it's been a I will say this,
it's the most entertaining series of the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
And it's not close. Yeah, yesterday was it.

Speaker 11 (32:25):
I mean, look, if they win tonight, then everybody's freaking
out and they have to face you Darvish again. They've
had a lot of trouble with since you Darvish destroyed
them when he was a Dodger pitcher in Game seven
of that World Series.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
But what was that twenty seventeen.

Speaker 11 (32:39):
Yeah, but I am just really blown away with the
fire and the anger and the blood.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Lust of the people of San Diego.

Speaker 11 (32:54):
And they are pissed and they are riled, and the
Dodgers just don't seem to have the edge that the
Padres have. And then there's the whole starting pitching problem.
But these games are like five to six, seven to five,
so it doesn't feel like that's what it is. It's
one extra hit one extra this or that the Dodgers

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only scored on home runs, which I just heard Eddie
Garcia detail in the update. So it's interesting yesterday's show.
I mean, okay, it was a crazy game, and Dodger
fans kind of humiliated themselves and the team on Sunday night,
throwing stuff, losing composure, not showing the quiet dignity and

(33:38):
grace that you were supposed to as a blue blood,
and a loss.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
We can agree with that, right, Yeah, so that happened.

Speaker 11 (33:45):
And then Dave Roberts said kind of randomly that Manny
Machado threw a ball at him with quote unquote with intent,
which is very hard to prove, you know, intent. You
really have to be inside someone's head. Unless it's like, wow,
he cut that guy's head off with a machete, then
it's like, okay, I can tell the intent there. He

(34:07):
wanted to decapitate him, so it's hard to prove intent.
And then Mike Shilt, the Padre manager, clearly angry and
tried to control himself, said something about Dave Roberts that
he was surprised that Dave Roberts would say anything and
that he's not going to defend his team and Roberto Clemente,

(34:27):
Manny Machado, blah blah blah, and then Dave Roberts comes
back and they're like, hey, Dave, you got anything to
say to Shilt. It's like ten minutes later, we're doing
this on the show in real time. Like you go
over to one side of the stadium and Mean Jeans
with the Ultimate Warrior and they do something. And then
you go to the other side of the stadium and
Mean Jeans with the whole Cogan and they do something.

(34:48):
And then Dave Roberts was like, oh, I have no
comment on it. So it's like, well, wait a minute.
You started the whole thing, and you took the high road,
you took the low road, and then all of a
sudden you're like, hey, I'm here.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
On the h I rode.

Speaker 11 (35:00):
It was very awkward, and then just a wild game
and Otani's disappeared after his home run and maybe they
feel like they don't have to pitch to him because
Mookie Betts is so playoff cold, although he hit one
home run last night that popped out of the glove
of profar when he held onto it in Game two,
so you're right, it's wildly entertaining, but all we can

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think about is how freaked out Don Martin.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Is that he's not going to get more playoff games
after this.

Speaker 11 (35:25):
And I are going to have to put on our
hosiary and put on our boostias and whore for m
five seveny the Blowtorch all Christmas long so they can
hit their budget.

Speaker 9 (35:37):
So mores a lot more morejsch Christmas party Zookies.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Who are you so? Who's gonna be?

Speaker 6 (35:44):
Who's gonna be Tommy Lee Jones, who's going to be
Kevin Bacon, Who's going to be Joe Peshy?

Speaker 5 (35:48):
And JFK? How's that going to work out? Way?

Speaker 11 (35:51):
Painted in gold Lay. You're a fine looking man, mister Garrison.
I'm starting to realize that most all of our movie
reference this are like when our parents were talking about a.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Day at the races with the Marx brothers.

Speaker 11 (36:06):
I mean, they're so damn old, But I still love
all our movie references. But yes, uh, we're going to
get so so depraved in trying to make money for
a seventy if the Dodgers get them out of this series,
that I might not.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Even recognize my own sexuality at the end of christ Wow,
that is a powerful statement. I need you to give
the Toyota people a new room massage.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
All right, sorry, broad I want to go back to
something you referenced earlier, the difference between the San.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Diego Padres fans and the Dodgers.

Speaker 9 (36:44):
Are you referring to? Is it like a massive brawl
or fight? Is that what you're referring to?

Speaker 8 (36:48):
Well, there's always fights, you know, I mean there's fights.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
This one was like newsworthy though, look.

Speaker 11 (36:53):
At actually it was newsworthy because the news that was.
I mean, as far as Dodger stadium fights go, and
I think Joe can vouch for me here, that was
not a very That was not an impactful Dodger stadium fight.
It was a fight though, after all the embarrassment of
throwing stuff on the field and having to stop the

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game on a bunch of times, what does it take
to be impactful, Petros, to make an impactful fight? Well, ambulance,
you know, there was an Elton John show there and
a guy got like it was a crazy fight. I mean,
first of all, fights happen all the time that people
aren't aren't maybe less and less, but fights happened all
the time that maybe people aren't aren't shooting on their phone?

(37:36):
But and and and that's a whole different story. But
they had like a big Elton John like residency for
a week at Dodger Stadium, and all these middle aged
white people started fighting like there was no tomorrow, like
really doing the crocodile rock. I don't I don't know
why that happened.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
I remember people fight during Elton John. How's that fire
you up to fight?

Speaker 11 (37:57):
I think there was a parking lot like giant Hummer
limo almost bumped your giant Hummer limo and then yeah,
what do you mean Candle had a few white claws
and that It's all, what do you mean.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Your future involves a couple Hummer Limos in there?

Speaker 8 (38:12):
What do you mean.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Candle in the wind sucks?

Speaker 8 (38:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (38:15):
I remember he shouldn't have written a new one for
Dove in two thousand and eight.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
I remember in two thousand and eight, the Dodgers swept
the Cubs in the playoffs, and I remember walking through
the parking lot and some Dodger fan ran up to
us with a bloody cub shirt and glasses and said,
you see this, this is my trophy. I just took
this off a cub fan. I'm thinking to myself, dude,
you just swept them like it's over. If this happens

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every year, and I guess there was a bunch of
what if you did?

Speaker 8 (38:43):
Why would you just attack anybody random?

Speaker 5 (38:47):
It just rinched. The whole thing's bizarre.

Speaker 11 (38:49):
So, like, you know, and I'm another big part of this,
and I you know, I probably shouldn't mention this, but
I would be remiss. Like I've been going to Dodger
Stadium since childhood, been drinking at Dodger Stadium since almost
that childhood.

Speaker 8 (39:05):
But now every.

Speaker 11 (39:06):
Step you take there's a new opportunity for alcohol.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
Honestly, it used to be that, and maybe.

Speaker 11 (39:14):
That's because the games are going faster so they want
to sell more.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
They still cut it off.

Speaker 11 (39:20):
Some teams don't because they realized they were losing money
with the pitch clock, which kind of turns the hypocrisy
of it all, like, hey, we want your safety, Well we're.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Not making us much money, so go ahead and drink.

Speaker 11 (39:32):
But every step at Dodger Stadium there's like some weird
blue wind X drink you can buy. You know, it
used to be you couldn't buy beer where you bought
hot dogs and stuff like that. Now they'll just throw
an eighteen dollars tall boy right at your face, you know,
so you know that might contribute a little bit to it.
You know, alcohol is the fuel of conversation. It's also

(39:55):
the fuel of chaos, so that could be part of it.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
It could be over tonight where you think there's ranks
if they do lose leg.

Speaker 8 (40:06):
With every other year that happened, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Where's the rank? Well, disappointments.

Speaker 8 (40:10):
What happens, LeVar is that.

Speaker 11 (40:14):
Everybody, all of us Dodger types that have to push
it on the station and all think like, well, shoe
Hail Tani will be the the X factor.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
He'll push us over the top.

Speaker 11 (40:25):
And when joey Otani hit that home run after Tatis
was out there waggon it around in the first game
and screamed, you know, let's call, everybody was like, wow, okay,
he's got the playoff fire.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
Here we go, you know, Battle of Midway, let's do it.

Speaker 11 (40:40):
And that did not happen because they don't have to
pitch to him because Mookie's not hitting at all and
Freddie Freeman's got one leg.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
So that part of it is very upsetting.

Speaker 11 (40:50):
And then the Dodger pitching has been decimated with injury,
and that could be a Dodger problem. I mean, there's
been articles written that the Dodgers are hurting pitchers their development.
Certainly a lot of guys get Tommy John surgery, but
the Dodgers seem to have real problems as far as
guys just not being able to pitch. Ever, and you

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wonder that one COVID season is the year that they won.

Speaker 8 (41:17):
What would have.

Speaker 11 (41:17):
Happen on their pitching if they had to play a
full season, they probably wouldn't be.

Speaker 8 (41:22):
There to win the World Series at the end of
the year.

Speaker 11 (41:25):
So it makes you worry about that twenty twenty Mickey
Mouse Championship. Say it's more Mickey Mouse, And it makes
you wonder if the Andrew Friedman people can ever get
it together with their pitching to be healthy enough during
the postseason to get it done. But I don't know.
We'll see if they win tonight, then it'll be a
whole boner fest for another couple of days and we'll

(41:46):
see what happened. Call me up maybe up in the
morning again if it.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Is get him on X at the old p Pet's Popty,
what type of Fox Sports Big Boner Fest, Petro's a
big game at the Coliseum this weekend. We got Yeah,
we got Penn State, we got usc usc LA was
too soft for the Big Ten. You guys, Okay, Shonas

(42:11):
why do you fast forwarding? Did talk about the loss
so that I was getting to that.

Speaker 11 (42:15):
Oregon and Washington are way way, way more qualified and
Washington's nowhere near as good as they were last year.
It's not even closed.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
So they've now lost. I say that in the off
season that they'd be better than SC and UCLA into
Big Ten. They've lost twice now to Michigan and Minnesota. Yeah, no,
it's over. Okay, So like look, I mean, I'm not stupid.

Speaker 11 (42:35):
I might be new as far as like a Mi
alma maters in the Big Ten, but I know that
if you go to Minnesota and lose to the Row
the boats, that you ain't you ain't.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Going nowhere like the Bob Dylan song.

Speaker 11 (42:47):
If you can't beat Minnesota and they run over you
at the end of the game, just like Michigan did.
Everybody's right about USC. Yeah, their defense is a little better,
but no, this is good enough. And maybe Lincoln Riley's
not good enough. Maybe he should just be calling plays
in the NFL because this is not this is not

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what they were sold. Lincoln Riley has a worse record
than Clay Helton at this same point in their career,
and Clay Helton's probably the most maligned USC football coach
of all time. So yeah, it's a terrible look. Ucla
may not win another game. Penn State has great running
backs and they can stretch the field off of that,
at which they're doing a much better job of this year,

(43:32):
and they're gonna run USC clean over and they're just
gonna run them over because USC can't stop it. They're
better at it, but they are not good enough. If
you go to Minnesota and lose, I don't want to
hear it anymore. Even if they beat Penn State, I
don't want to hear it. You lost to Michigan when
they threw for thirty two yards, and you lost to

(43:52):
freaking Minnesota. I did one of PJ. Fleck's first games,
and maybe it was year two, I'm not sure sure,
but after they won, it was at Corvallis.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
His wife was down on.

Speaker 11 (44:06):
The field and they literally did and you know, like
after you throw a touchdown, you see the quarterbacks like
point up and they do like a like a chess
bump with an olignement or something.

Speaker 8 (44:15):
He did a flying chess bump with his wife, like.

Speaker 11 (44:19):
A thirty yard like sprint on the sideline, flying chest bump.
And some might call her the human trampoline because he
backed way, Like who like he bucked?

Speaker 5 (44:34):
What do you mean?

Speaker 8 (44:35):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (44:35):
Like? Like is he bouncing?

Speaker 11 (44:36):
I've just never seen a coach. I've seen a coach
hugg his wife after a game. I've seen a coach
kiss his wife after a game. I've seen like the
face grab kiss, you.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
Know, Like I'm just trying to get to the point
of like, is there a reason why he bounced off
so far?

Speaker 5 (44:54):
Well, some call her the human trampoline. Oh wow.

Speaker 9 (44:58):
When they go through the announce spence when you're getting
ready to take off on the plane, does she not
have to worry about the flotation?

Speaker 11 (45:04):
But I'm just asking, oh wow, is that what you're saying.
I'm not looking under my seat. Uh, it's just don't
worry about she's a.

Speaker 8 (45:13):
Yes, who are we talking about?

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Let's let's let's move on. I've just never seen a
guy do a chest bump with his wife. That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (45:23):
With all the upsets last week in college football, Petros,
who is it best for?

Speaker 11 (45:32):
That's a great question. And you know then you have Georgia.
Everybody's getting arrested again.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Yeah, what the hell was that story?

Speaker 8 (45:41):
I mean, is it new?

Speaker 5 (45:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (45:44):
I mean we shouldn't act surprised, right, No, And there's
you know, the other thing is like what's their graduation rate?

Speaker 9 (45:49):
It's it like sub fifty percent or something like do
they even care about anything?

Speaker 5 (45:53):
It's just football there.

Speaker 11 (45:54):
They might have like a grand theft auto major that
everybody's selling.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
One.

Speaker 11 (46:02):
I just came up with it. But you know, I
guess it's good for us. You know, I love to
see people humiliated. Watching Alabama lose at Vanderbilt is like,
I mean, eating ice cream for breakfast when you're a kid.
It's just glorious. That was an unbelievable moment. Even though
I really like Calein de Boor and I just like,

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I mean, we need Texas to lose or somebody else
that thinks that they're beyond reproach and maybe Oklahoma'll get
him in the Red River Rivalry or the shootout or
whatever it's supposed to be called these days the snickers
bar fried at the State Fair game. I love watching
the stupid upsets. That's the best part. That the whole

(46:50):
Pavia Diego Pavia story is what college football is great for.
And it's great to see that, even as we're changing
and evolving in maybe not in the best way, mutating
in some ways, some might say, as the sport is changing,
we still have room for those great stories.

Speaker 8 (47:09):
That's really heartening.

Speaker 11 (47:10):
And if Vanderbilt can still beat Alabama, or can beat
Alabama it's not like they've ever done it for a
long time, then we still got a good thing going
in our sport. That proves it. Nineteen year olds are
still stupid and they can still have the highest highs
in the lowest lows. And that's what makes the sport
great because kids makes mistakes, and mistakes lead to greatness

(47:31):
and fun games and wildness out on the field.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
So I've been enjoying it. Who's it good for?

Speaker 11 (47:36):
I guess it's good for the fans, right Ohio State
organ is going to be very interesting. We'll see how
good organ is at the line of scrimmage there, and
that'll be a good litmus test. But I'm happy about
the two West Coast teams that are doing okay in
the Big Ten, specifically beating Michigan for Washington. And I'm
embarrassed about USC and UCLA. You go to Minnesota and lose,

(47:58):
It's like, forget it, forget it? What are we doing?
What are we doing?

Speaker 6 (48:02):
Petro's what game you got this weekend? What are we
looking at?

Speaker 11 (48:05):
I got my Wazu Kog's at Fresno, Go Kugs. But
we had a hell of a game. Everybody forgot about
it because one Saturday hits.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
And No that was awesome.

Speaker 11 (48:15):
Un LV was was great, and Syracuse was really really impressive.
Fran Brown loved that guy. I was really really impressed
by him and Syracuse.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
But you think it's so, you.

Speaker 9 (48:27):
Think it's gonna work to everyone was skeptical because he's
just kind of like a CEO recruiter type, at least
that that was the reports when he got the job.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
You think it's gonna work.

Speaker 11 (48:35):
He reminded me of Principal Joe Clark from Patterson another arc.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah, hey, you have rewritten the school song.

Speaker 11 (48:55):
I want you all to look at this slovenly sloppy
boy as an example of how not to dress right.
First of all, I love lean on me. That's I
believe Patterson, New Jersey, right, Camden, New Jersey is where
Fran is from. And I mean I've talked to a

(49:16):
lot of coaches, obviously that's my job, and obscure coaches
and well known coaches and everything in between. And Fran
he was the most real guy I think I've talked
to in quite some time. He said things to me
that I've known to be true for years in college football,
that no one has said out loud. He told me

(49:39):
that he cannot miss on a kid in New Jersey.
His mother had him when he was thirteen, and he is,
you know, the success, the embodiment of the success that
college football.

Speaker 8 (49:49):
Can create, and he wants that for people.

Speaker 11 (49:52):
He was very, very faithful and just really really impressive
to me. Obviously, I've never done a Syracuse game. My
knowledge of Syracuse doesn't go too much farther than that
juiced up full back Robert Conrad from Back of the Day.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Yeah, just jacked white dude. Yeah for ahead.

Speaker 11 (50:12):
Yeah, they talk about Donovan McNabb and Harrison Damn, what
about Conrad sow Keith Bullet, Uh Yeah, I mean my
knowledge doesn't.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Go much further than that.

Speaker 11 (50:21):
Uh So, I really was impressed with Syracuse and what
they had going. I don't often can see ACC teams.

Speaker 9 (50:28):
Can I ask you this question about UNLV now, because
it's their first loss, it was a kind of a
huge game in the context of the Mountain West, and
maybe not for the conference play, but just overall their
record chance for me a playoff spot. They've got a
number of games coming up they could maybe determine things,
in particular the Boise, Like, did you think they're good
enough to maybe knock off Boise from having a shot
of being a part of the collegetball playoff?

Speaker 11 (50:49):
Well, you know, I mean they're blocking punts, you know,
and playing like they're like one of those teams like
Virginia Tech was back in the day Beamer Ball. Like
they have this elite wide receiver Vicky White who came
from Michigan State, and he's blocked like three punts already.
That's remarkable, you know. So they do interesting things and
they have a very unique offense for the modern times.

(51:12):
Uh So, yeah, I think that Boise U and LV
game is going to be great because Ashton Gent he's
the biggest.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Star in college football right now, he's to me.

Speaker 11 (51:22):
I mean, I maybe I have confirmation bias because I've
seen him so much and watched him grow and I
know his story. But it's hard to imagine a better
player right now.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
I don't. I just don't.

Speaker 11 (51:32):
I don't see a running back like that. You know,
maybe at the quarterback position somebody's doing that. But I
I love that kid, and so that makes the Mountain
West interesting just because of that individual.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Luca kid.

Speaker 9 (51:48):
Did everything ever come from that? I know the backups
played well.

Speaker 11 (51:51):
I think what happened like this is what I asked
you guys, what we talked about when it was asked
a couple of weeks ago. I think, but I think
what happened is, Look, they took two players from smaller.

Speaker 8 (52:04):
Schools who had had a bunch of experience.

Speaker 11 (52:07):
Sluka was from Holy Cross and then the other guy,
hot hadj Malik Williams I think was from Campbell. Yeah,
the Fighting Camels. So neither of those guys got any
offer for money. They got their travel expenses paid, and
then they won the two Power four games, Houston and Kansas,

(52:30):
and they turned around and said, you know, you owe
us money. U and LV wasn't going to pay them
money because they didn't really like the player that much
in the first place. They had another quarterback that could
play that they were working in, so it seemed like
an easy decision for them to say, Hey, okay.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
You can go away.

Speaker 11 (52:47):
Once the season starts, like Mike Gundy said, like the
negotiation should be over. And I believe Barry Odom there
was nothing offered this kid, and they made up a
story to save face after the thing blew up in
their face. So, knowing the situation or the people at
un l V, that seems to me like the most
likely scenario that happened.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
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the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which
you can hear on the blowtorch.

Speaker 8 (53:13):
He going to be at the Collie with the sword.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
The Collie.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Chance you know we might go, Petros. Do you think
Reggie will be there?

Speaker 7 (53:24):
No, pet you might send a p I Petros, We
appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
We'll do it again next week, my pleasure.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
I have a great night.

Speaker 6 (53:39):
So there is the great Petros Papadegas with this year
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