January 16, 2025 • 46 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Cowboys coaching search has been fumbled by Jerry Jones. Russell Wilson seems to have worn out his welcome on 3 straight teams. TheMMQB’s Albert Breer talks coaching searches and the National Championship.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Rings and Brady Winn and Jonas Knox on
four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Brady's not here because he has a major life event.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
A major life event. Yeah, and up on the bet
that you didn't pay up on, which is what you know.
He's turning in, Brandy. What do you mean I'm joking?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
No, he so, Brady? You mean Brady's expecting child number
thirty two. Uh so he's uh.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Talking about a quarterback slinging that rock.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
To dap quinn back to thrown. It's another touchdown.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I don't think he's suspecting anymore. I think he think
he's got to go about now.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, it's not then. I don't know, man, but yeah,
so so we I don't want to tease this and
have it not happened, but I would I would point
out that he has said that maybe he would call
in while listen. I don't know if it's while it's
actually happening, or potentially from the hospital. So if that
(01:23):
is the case, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Think it's already I thought he said it already was
it would have happened by now. I would assume he
would be calling as as a new happy pop pop
more than calling for us to experience it with them.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Now. When I my wife had my son, I was
trying to schedule it to where I could actually do
the show while it was happening, because that's again, that's
like another level of commitment. But I was unfortunate and
not able to have that how they go down.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I mean, was she okay with he doing it that way?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But you know that who's that stop? You know, it's
just like, hey, I gotta go, I gotta grab something
real quick. I'm gonna get something from the vending machine.
Do you want anything?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Know?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And then you come back and you know, next thing,
you know, I'm tossing the lead to Laugher in case
you missed it. Like it's just you know, you just
kind of slowly work it into the show, work it
into the situation, then you should be fine. So there's
ways around it, you know, no big or buddy, but
congratulations to to the Quinns. And if Brady can make
(02:31):
it work, then we're gonna be good to go here
and we're gonna have somebody a brand new dad on
the air joining us here. At some point during the
course of the show, Thank you, Jerry, which is appropriate
because no, by the way, you know, Jerry, that's that's
an interesting SoundBite from you based on what happened last
(02:54):
off season. But oh god, I mean, listen teaser that
thing short disappeared. It's amazing. You know, maybe that's why
he was nicol and diving Mike McCarthy on the contract
length and the terms and all that, because that is
one of the stories out there is that they wanted
Mike McCarthy to reduce the number of assistants he had.
(03:17):
That there was, you know, a thought that maybe Jerry
didn't want to pay a premium or top dollar that
some other organizations were paying. And you know, the more
that this stuff starts to come out, the more we
find out about this coaching search when it comes to
the Dallas Cowboys, and one of the things that was
(03:38):
discussed yesterday Jane Slater of the NFL Network who pointed
out that Jerry Jones has kind of taken this into
his own hands, that he's gone on a bit of
a solo mission, so he's the one reaching out and
he's the one having conversations. Some of the names that
were thrown out there. Obviously we talked about the Jason Witten,
(03:59):
who you know, Jerry Jones looked at as the potential
heir apparent. Kellen Moore's name was brought up, Dion Sanders,
John Gruden, Steve Sarkesian. She brought up that, you know,
there's been no reaching out to sark yet, but potentially
that could be something that could pop up. Dion Sanders
(04:19):
and some betting markets is the betting favorite to be
the coach. There the fact that they're having to go
this route and the fact that Jerry Jones is taking
on this quote unquote solo mission tells me he didn't
expect Mike McCarthy to not be the coach, and I
think he assumed that Mike McCarthy and then we're going
to get a deal done. And now I don't know
(04:40):
if panic is the right word, but it seems like
maybe he's a little pissed off at the situation and
it's like I'll just take it into my own hands.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That seems interesting. I mean, if that were the case,
then why wouldn't Mike McCarthy still be the coach? Like
he has the Jerry Jones has the ability and the
resources to have alluded that type of surprise that would
(05:10):
seem strange to me. You didn't expect to have to
find a new head coach, Like, I don't get it, Like, Okay,
you had too many assistant coaches. I mean, you ain't
won nothing, damn. So I mean, what are all those
people doing there for? But I mean, what Mike McCarthy
(05:31):
forego renewing his contract based off of having too many
assistant coaches? I don't think so. So if what you're
saying has any validity to it, you're talking about a
bigger issue that is potentially existing here as it applies
to a coach wanting to be there, because you're basically
(05:54):
saying that Mike McCarthy is the reason why Mike McCarthy
is out of a job, not Jerry Jones and the
Dallas Cowboys. So that would be what I would be asking, is, well,
why is it that Mike McCarthy did not re up
his contract? Why is it that Jerry Jones has found
himself in a situation where he has to try to
(06:17):
find a coach when he wasn't anticipating that he was
going to need a new coach for his team. That's
strange and for what is worth outside of Dion Sanders,
and honestly speaking, even no disrespect, but even Dion, none
of those names scream you're you're upgrading your your opportunities
(06:41):
to be able to try to go for a Super Bowl.
I don't, I don't. I don't get that. That doesn't
seem to make sense, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's why when I kind of threw the question at
you guys yesterday, like, hey, are any of these names
and upgrade over Mike McCarthy, I just I mean, Dion's
a splash higher, but we don't know how that's going
to work in the NFL. What we do know is
Mike McCarthy has worked in the NFL, and you could
say whatever you want about his playoff failures and all
that in Dallas, Dude, the guys, I mean, he won
(07:13):
a Super Bowl, He's won a ton of games in
multiple places. He's been a coach for like eighteen years
or something like that. He's like, his resume speaks for itself.
So then you're basically late to the dance. Everybody else
has made the move, had interviews with coaches that are
still coaching in the playoffs. Now you're late, and you're
(07:33):
scrambling and all of these different names are popping up
out there, and I just look at it and go,
there's no way this was the plan. And if this
was the plan, it just looks like more unorganized, disjointed
Dallas Cowboy negotiations that we've seen with players and now
we're seeing with coaches. It's just weird.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, and I think to your point, what adds the
complications to all of this is that Dallas has been
dysfunctional for so long that you can no longer use
the star or use saying Dallas or Cowboys. You can't
(08:16):
use that as as a significant legitimate draw. Like you
even heard your own former quarterback and Troy Aikman basically
allude to or say or hint to the fact that
it isn't that prestigious of a job to get if
you're a head coach.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's a pretty damning statement.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Coming from one of the damning statement.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
One of the great players in the history of the organization.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So I don't know what you lean on at this
point to get the type of coach to lure in
the type of coach that you might want. And for
what it's worth. I hate to say this as well,
because it stinks that this is how guys have to
get jobs. But at the same time, you know what
opportunity presents itself to take advantage of it. You know,
(09:01):
Dion couldn't get a major gig. He was trying to
get the Florida State gig. They didn't want to give
it to him. The dude goes to a place where
it's like, come on, man, like this is the job
that Dion Sanders has to take. He goes to Jackson State,
no shade to Jackson State. But the bottom line is
he ends up there because you know, he couldn't get
(09:23):
a major school to take him seriously, he ends up
going to Colorado, which is like, y'all know, it was insignificant,
insignificant school, you know, And so he gets a job
by default because Colorado was not a desirable job, a
(09:46):
one win team. Now he turns that around and what
he finds himself in a position again where possibly he
gets the opportunity to take a major head coaching job
role at the National Football League because it's one of
the more insignificant organizations that you should want to coach at.
(10:07):
It's kind of crazy that that's the way your opportunity
would come about. But I will say this, and like
I said sit in the show yesterday, if there's one
person that is more in tune to their own world
that they've created. Some people call guys like that delusional
(10:29):
people because they totally have created their own alternate, alternate
universe of reality. I always say the most successful people
are those people you're considered crazy until you're not crazy anymore.
People thought Dion was crazy for going to Colorado. People
thought that Dion wouldn't be able to get any more
(10:50):
wins than what they were already getting. He took his
alternate you know, his alternate reality and his alternate universe
to Colorado and transformed it into Dion's world. I would
assume wherever he goes, he's going to do the same
exact thing, because that's just who he is. He creates
(11:11):
his own world wherever it is that he goes. Jerry
Jones has done the same thing, but he's not going anywhere.
He's in one place. If there were one person that
could handle the delusion and the alternate universe that Jerry
Jones lives in, it would be Deon Sanders. And that's why,
(11:34):
if you're really being somewhat sensible about your coaching search,
and you're thinking about the guys that are out there
that are available to you that you could possibly bring in.
Why would you not put all your chips on the
table and go after Dion Sanders.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I mean, you kind of have to at this point,
don't you, Like, I.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Don't know that you kind of have to. You can
do whatever you want to do. But if you're talking
about somebody that could come in, like you said, splash higher,
of course it has splash higher written on it because
of Dion Sanders' brand as Dion Sanders. But the reality
of it is is that the man can coach. The
(12:16):
man can coach, and he has has great relationships Jonas,
his his his coaching staffs, his his administrative people. He
has the infrastructure to bring in and do a job
of a stand up, a bang up job. Ain't nobody
(12:37):
gonna have no problem with him saying he's bringing his
lowis bags in to Dallas. Who's gonna have a problem
with that? You know? And everything that he will bring
to the table. I think that the value of who
he is and what he would do and what he
would bring, not to mention ticket sales and the selling
of hope and the possibilities. You know, those things would
(13:01):
totally you know, go to a whole other level in
terms of excitement of bringing in Deon Sanders, I mean
that junk would be I mean that would be an
epic proportion, Like I don't think we will have ever
seen anything like that in terms of what it would
turn into. The pageantry of it and the introductions of
(13:21):
Deon Sanders coming in and taking over Dallas so he
could take and leverage this in so many different ways.
But at the same time, the coolest thing about it
is is that it's not a gimmick. Deon Sanders is
not a gimmick. He's a coach and he knows how
to do it, and he knows how to build. So
(13:42):
I don't even look at it as like, oh, he's
the best option right now. He would be the best
option if some of these guys out here were still
in the mix to want to go to or go
to any team that they're going to go to. I
think I think you can really really sell it to
On as Dallas and Jerry Jones more so than any
(14:04):
of the of these other franchises that are out here
in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, but he's still like, no matter who gets the job,
their plan B, Plan A was Mike McCarthy returning as coach.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And so that's your speculation.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, look, why were they negotiating then? If there wasn't
mutual interest, why were they Why were they negotiating?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I don't. I don't. I'm just not going to speculate
on it. While I'll say that even if that were
the case, Even if that were the case, you know,
there might have been somebody who was negotiating to come
into our time slot, you know, but it ended up
being us that took it.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Right there was nobody, so there was nobody for the job.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I don't. I don't even care if I'm just using
it as an example.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And if we're going to be frank, if we're going
to be frank, once they saw my name on the
dotted line, everybody wanted in on this, you know what
I'm saying, if we're going to be frank about the
whole thing, I got your coaching search right here.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Well, there you go. That that'll end the segment.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
There you go, get that work.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I guess that's just a mic. A mic drops get that, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Add ends be sure to catch live editions of Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington,
and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app What
Up Sticks.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
All right your Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, let's discuss because apparently,
while Russell Wilson was waxing poetically at his end of
season press conference talking about how he plans to be
back in Pittsburgh. He wants to be back, loved his
time there, loved his teammates, the city, the setup, all
(15:58):
of that, and at times played pretty good quarterback for
the Steelers this year. But apparently not everything was all
that smooth when it came to Russell Wilson, even though
he's working out in Pittsburgh Steelers gear, he's doing all
the stuff after the season here and trying to talk
about how great the organization is. Mark Coboli, who covers
(16:21):
the Pittsburgh Steelers, he pointed out that, well, listen, you know,
not everything was apparently all that smooth because he did
not see eye to eye with offensive coordinator Arthur Smith.
As Kabolei put it when he wrote up his column
(16:42):
discussing the end of the season and the Pittsburgh Steelers
and what their plan is at quarterback. He said the
following that the working relationship between Arthur Smith and Russell Wilson,
they fought through it their differences as best as they could,
but it was not a great working relationship. And there
(17:03):
is some thought there that the organization and people within
the organization, including Arthur Smith at one point, preferred Justin
Fields over Russell Wilson. So, huh, all that is in
the back drum?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Is that a is that a smear campaign? Though? I
will say this, if you think about it, hasn't that
kind of been Russell Wilson's resume? That's wasn't that how
it was? And like you remember seeing how him and
Sean Payton interacted and Denver, Yeah, and just kind of
(17:43):
how his teammates eventually came out talked about him and
how they felt about him in Seattle. So this seems
like this kind of is following him in terms of
how he's viewed.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It's like the third time we've heard something like this,
and you know, they there was reports of him this
season where they and even you know in what Markabutley
reported here at the end of the season, and he
put this out yesterday or the day before, just saying, look,
they spent a lot of time working together to learn
the offense. They even joked about it at one point
Mike Tomlin mentioned it. But as much as they work
(18:17):
together and tried to work through it just not a
great relationship overall. And now this is to your point, Seattle,
he had a falling out with Pete Carroll, Denver, he
had a falling out with everybody Pittsburgh apparently him in
the offensive coordinator did not see eye to eye, and
we're not having the greatest working relationship while trying to,
(18:39):
you know, get the offense together. From a player standpoint,
this does feel like it's not so much as Seattle thing.
Maybe it's not a Denver thing, Maybe it's not a
Pittsburgh thing.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
This was like it's a Russell Wilson thing. Yeah, that's
what it sounds like. Like it's a diva mentality. And listen, well,
for whatever it's worth, you know, quarterbacks are divas. They're
just different type of people man, and like receivers like these,
these guys have different types of mental emotional makeups and
(19:11):
how they do things. And how they handle things, and
some guys are much more extreme than the other. I
don't think it takes a rocket scientist, and I don't
think it takes somebody being bold enough or brave enough
to actually say that, oh without getting in trouble or
getting accused of being a hater of this person or
data that, whatever it may be that you would say
(19:32):
your conclusion of Russell Wilson is that he's a diva.
I knew it. It was official when he had that
shiny ass prompt suit on with the shiny shoes, Like
he's a diva, Like, no doubt about it. That his
approach to things. You know, he's been in an Entourage movie,
he married a singer entertainer. You know, there was the
(19:57):
whole conversation point when you remember when Tom Brady was
in the Super Bowl and Russell Wilson was sitting with
the commissioner and there were reports that came out that
Russell Wilson wanted to kind of pull off the same
exact thing, go to a market, create the same environment
that Tom Brady. You remember that, Like, I just I
(20:19):
just think that everything that you look at says if
it looks like a duck walks like a duck, quacks
like a duck. It's a duck. And Russell Wilson is
a diva. He walks like one, he talks like one,
and he acts like one. And that just is what
it is. So the question is is his results Do
(20:40):
his results offset the diva mentality? You know, you look
at a guy like Aaron Rodgers, and nobody is surprised
when you say Aaron Rodgers is a diva. It just
is what it is. He has diva tendencies, he does
things in a diva way. He's in the media. He
wants to make sure that you can hear his voice
(21:01):
and hear how he talks about things and his superior
reasoning into as to why things happened the way that
they do, especially within his ecosystem. And you know what,
He's been talented enough in years past where he could
get away with it. It's just that the water ran bad,
the whale went bad for him when he went to
(21:21):
New York, didn't play out the way that he thought
it would play out. Russell Wilson, he had some really good,
good weeks with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I find it
not surprising that come the end of the season, after
disappointing departure from the playoffs and not having as much
offensive output as you would have liked to have seen
(21:44):
from this team, that you hear some of these things
surface about the quarterback because you got that feeling coming
out of Denver that the reason why him and Sean
Payton kind of butted heads is the guy with the offense,
the office in the in the building and the twenty
million dollar house with three bathrooms and one hundred different
(22:08):
uh you know, or one hundred different bathrooms and only
three bedrooms that you know, this is just a different dude.
You're dealing with a different type of dude.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think you're kind of being unfair and misrepresenting where
he lived in Denver. It was okay, four bedrooms, twelve
craft closets like that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That was I mean, I wasn't far off.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I mean, you know, I feel like we've got I
wasn't far here. If we're going to do.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
How many did I say, sixteen bathrooms? Three bedrooms?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They got far?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, look, and who knows. And this is not
to discredit the reporting of of Koboli, who's been covering,
you know, the Steelers for years. And years. I mean,
I would assume you know, his sources are pretty good
on this. Maybe this is true that Russ and Arthur
Smith as oc. Didn't have a great working relationship, and
maybe this will impact what they do moving forward if
(22:56):
he was that much of a diva. I just I
look at it like this any way you want to
slice it. The Steelers are in no man's land in
that division. They just are, like thankfully the Cleveland Browns
are a vomit bucket, and you can look to them
and go, well, at least we're not them. But when
you look around that division, that conference, and your solution
(23:19):
at quarterback is and your answer at quarterback and predicament
at quarterback is the same as it was last year.
This year they were supposed to learn who their guy
was going to be going forward, like you would have
like whether it was going to be justin Fields, whether
it was going to be Russell Wilson. A they're on
the Chiefs, but let's find out who gets this gig
what They don't have an answer now, And you just
(23:41):
played an entire season and went to the playoffs. That's bad.
Like you're in no man's land again in that division.
Same as you were last year going into the season.
So basically, what did this year accomplish? Like, I really
don't know, Like it's you're the same team.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
You want to know what it accomplished, You know what
a ash jonas Unfortunately it accomplished almost justifying all of
the critics of Mike Tomlin. You know, I've heard this
whole undercurrent of how people from internal positions that may
(24:20):
not be or may be still associated with the organization
or not associated with the organization talking about how the
culture of the Pittsburgh Steelers has been lost. And it's
not something that I've ever wanted to believe because I
feel like what I see at Mike Tomlin is certainly
(24:41):
a man who embraces what the still city represents. And
so when I heard that, these were kind of the
sentiments that were being, you know, kind of put out
there as it applied to Mike Tomlin and what the
locker room was like and what the culture was like
and what it's become from what it was when guys
like Rob Woodson and Greg Lloyd and Levon Kirkland. We're
(25:04):
in that locker room too now with the current group
of guys that are there it's like the things that
made the Steelers, what made the Steelers through the Chuck
Nole era, through the Bill Coward era, and maybe potentially
the early days of when Mike Tomlin was there, are gone.
(25:26):
And then you start to say to yourself, no, because
you listen to the way Mike Tomlin interviews and his soundbites,
and you get a very solid feeling of he's very,
very rooted in the person that he is, the principles,
the values that he represents. You get a great feel for,
you know, what you believe him to be by the
(25:46):
things that he says and how he represents himself. But
then you hear about all of these situations that continue
to keep arising. You know, starting with Antonio Brown and
you know the beef between him and Ben Roethlisberger, and
then now you got this receiver. You know, you got
the Pickings deal. Then you know now the latest being
(26:08):
you know, the beef between Russell Wilson and the offensive coordinator.
It's like, why did you even bring Russell Wilson there?
Like it's kind of interesting because when I said it,
it's like, he's not a Pittsburgh guy, but yet you
brought him there and while for a moment in time
(26:28):
it kind of looked like it might work out. Then
you come to find out later on that there was
like internal beefing going on with Russell Wilson and the
coaching staff or the offensive coordinator. Then you start to
think to yourself, huh, like, oh, Justin Fields might have
been the better option. Justin Fields didn't play that well
as a startup.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
He's like, Russ is there and Justin's there because it
didn't work with the guy you spent a first round
pick on and Kenny Pickett and if you remember, and
if you remember, there was and look Mark Madden, who
who's covered Pittsburgh sports for a long time, and he
was consistent on this the entire time and said Pickett
refused to go into a game at one point or
(27:10):
refuse to suit There was an opportunity for him to
suit up, but he was going to be a backup
and he refused to so he didn't like That's another
story that came out last year. So there is a
lot of stuff that you bring up that you look
at and go that's kind of you don't hear that,
And they can try and dispute it and refute it
(27:31):
all they want, but there is seemingly a lot of
chaos there, kind of under underreported and underdiscussed based on
how everybody feels about Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I'm just I've never been one to try to start
any type of bee for drama that's connected to a
fine coach. I just never. I've never been into that
and to speculate, because that can be damaging. I'm on
a national platform and to try to be as responsible
(28:01):
as I possibly can when I'm speaking on coaches and
even players. That's why I got into media to begin with,
because I feel like the misrepresentation of players and coaches
at times is unbearable to me. You got people that
I have no idea what things really are about, haven't
experienced it, but yet they feel the need to define
(28:24):
it and report it and feed it to the masses
of people. That's why I got into media. So I
try to be very careful and cognizant of how I'm
representing what I say. I would like to try to
be as accurate as I possibly can and be fair
and even so that the voice that I'm giving is
a voice of not only the people and someone who's
(28:47):
reporting what they feel and opinions to the people, but
also what I feel and what the opinions are of
the athlete and the coaches as well. And I just
got to be honest with you, I feel like there's
there is an escalation of smoke that is coming from Pittsburgh.
I feel like there might have to be more discussion
(29:11):
surrounding what is the future of the Pittsburgh Steelers, because
I don't know that now. Some of the things that
I've heard, like that culture of what the Pittsburgh Steelers represent,
especially in the locker room and around the building, if
it's getting lost, if the message has been so diluted
(29:33):
and eroded through the years, if that's what it is,
and now it's just more so the figurehead of seeing
and hearing. What Mike Tomlin represents almost more so is
representative of himself, not so much of the team and
the organization. I just wonder if there is some validity
(29:54):
to that statement when you hear it being said. And
I'm just basing that off of things I've heard from
former players and people who've been around it. That's not
me making it up, that's me hearing it from people
I've been around that have been in the building that
have experienced at first head and that for me, at first,
I was like, Yeah, that doesn't sound right. That doesn't
(30:16):
sound right to me. I don't subscribe to that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
What's wrong with asking the question? Yeah, Like what's wrong
with like, hey man, they're just.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Asking now, like you gotta start asking it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
They're just every year there's there's some issue, there's something
that pops up, and he just wonder, like I love
Mike Tomlin. I mean, if they were going to make
him available for a trade, somebody would trade for him.
You'd be an upgrade in a lot of places. Just
you do wonder. There's just there seems to be a
lot of stuff going on there every year, every single year.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Right now, it is a Thursday tradition. It is Albert Brier,
the star of Amazon's NFL on prime coverage every single Thursday.
He's a senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the
m MPB. You can get him on x at Albert
Brier ab good morning. How are we feeling?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I see Brady's ducking me huh.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh swipeing early. He's they're expecting U are looking pretty good.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I wish if we just tay congratulations to Brady. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, so uh he's well thanks, that's very kind of Yeah,
that's very nice for you to be looking to say
congratulations to him, like, you.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Know, the last time, for the last time this week. Yeah,
that's the last time this week.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Can I support LeVar in this moment? Like just like, okay,
all about that.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Was a tough one, LeVar. That was a tough one.
I will say that. I mean, you guys have something
like I felt the totally play. If you guys have
some athletes like I, I don't know, like it was.
It would be hard for me to watch that if
I at ten State and not feel like, yeah, not
that combination of like Abuel Carter and Tyler Warren and
(32:10):
Nick Singleton and Allen and like it's just you sort
of look at and it's like, was this the team?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Like I don't know, yeah, you know all those guys, well,
some of those guys are coming back next year. At
least you know. Yeah, they chose to come back, so
we should be good good you know.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah, well maybe maybe it'll be like a slot like
this year right where we we got everybody back for
an extra year. So anyway, I'm trying to help. I'm
trying to help with oar out there.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, thank you for the support. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Maybe I got to ask you, how real is the
Ben Johnson to the Raiders smoke that's out there?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I think relatively real? Like you know, I Tom Brady
is a factor in this, and you know, I think
at the beginning of it then wasn't even gonna take
an interview with them, you know. And yeah, and I
think I said to you guys, would be a little
bit more selective, so, you know, the three interviews that
he had chosen to take or New England, which I
(33:14):
think he sort of viewed that as a warm up,
and he liked the New England job, but I think
most people felt like it was probably going to very
wall along, you know, and then yeah, Jacksonville and Chicago,
and you know, Brady I was was was really able
to sell his people on the idea of of of
what the Raiders could be and what the Raiders, we're
(33:35):
gonna do to change what they've been over the last
couple of decades, and that this wouldn't be the same
old Raiders, and you know it's it's not just Tom
like which you know, I think he's a piece of it,
you know, and he's not going to be there day
to day. He lives in Florida. But you know, I
think there was this sort of like conviction that like,
there's gonna be we're going to get good people there,
(33:58):
and you know there's gonna be there's gonna be financial
backing there with you know this this uh, this this
private equity CEO Egan Durban and some other guys investing
in the team now, and you're gonna have some time
to build it out. So the roster isn't very good now.
I don't think you guys need me to tell you that.
And there's gonna whoever is the coach is going to
(34:19):
need some runway, you know. But I think what the
Raiders have to offer is sort of different than what
the other teams have to offer, which you know, Jacksonville, Hast,
Trevor Lawrence, the decent core of players. Chicago has Caleb Williams,
some pieces to build around. The Raiders kind of offer
you a blank slate where it's like, Okay, we're going
(34:40):
to give you the chance to build this the way
that you see fit, and we're going to give you
this flaying canvas. And so I think the appeal to
the job is a little bit different than than than
what you're seeing with the other with the other two.
But yeah, I mean think the interest is real. He
wouldn't have taken the interview unless it was he wasn't
going to take an inter this year at the job
(35:01):
that he wouldn't, you know, legitimately see himself taking, which
is one reason why you don't hear about him with
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Ab was Mike McCarthy not reupping and still being the
coach of Dallas a surprise to Jerry Jones and moving forward?
You know, Jonas asked a question, any of these coaches
out here and upgrade to Mike McCarthy. I think that
Dion Sanders should be a legitimate contender or recipient for
(35:32):
the job, not because you know, the fame and the
splash idea of it. I think he's really a good
coach and I think he might be maybe the final
frontier in terms of somebody who actually thinks just as
highly of themselves and what they know and what they
bring to the table and would be able to handle
being in an environment such as Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, I think LeVar, like the last thing he said,
is an important piece of it, which like, not everybody's
cut out to coach in Dallas. You know, It's it's
a different environment there. It's not the same as the
other thirty one, you know, and the pressure of being
in that role, managing the relationship with ownership, when ownership
(36:16):
so involved in the football operation, the structure of it
is is just different, you know, the pressure, it's just different.
And you know, I think the upside of all that
as the coach is going to have a major say,
you know, and I think Jerry's coaches would all tell
you that that, like the coach there is not just
you know, it's not just their coach. He's gonna have
(36:37):
input in personnel. He's gonnaut to have input in the
way the team's put together, and so you know, like
I I think understanding kind of the dynamics of the
organization are an important.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Piece of it.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I also think like you know, for all the flash
and everything else. I mean, lavarthink you degree with that
actually an old school coach, right, like you know what
I mean, Like he like I think his principles of
you watch, you watch the way he works, you watch
what the way he handles his team's very old school,
you know. And I think in that way, it's not
unlike like a Saban or a Belichick where it's like
(37:10):
you're going to have a team that is gonna really
be grounded and fundamentals, and and it's going to be tough,
you know, and and and and and it's going to
be looking for a certain type of player. So I
think all that stuff is good, you know, Like I
think the flip side of it is, you would you
are going to need some infrastructure to help him adjust
(37:32):
to coaching at the NFL level from a scheme standpoint
and all of that. So I think, like you can
you can build that stuff out, you know what I mean,
Like you can you can go get coaches that are
going to be able to help you in those areas
and and and help support Dion as he makes his
transition to the NFL. So I I I don't think
it's the craziest idea in the world that that that
(37:53):
he could make it work. It's a risk, it could
certainly crash and burn. But I do think, like beyond
all the packaging that we get, like what we see
with Dion, you know, there is an old school like
like fundamental approach to the way that he does it.
But I think, you know is lost in some corners
of the NFL and probably would work in pro football
(38:15):
if again, you had the right infrastructure around him to
support him with some of the stuff that he might
need to catch up on in terms of in terms
of coaching in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Albert Brier is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on x at Albert Brier ab who's the
next if you had to guess right now, next vacancy filled?
And who's the guy that gets it?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I mean, the rules make it really tough to have
to get this stuff done fast. You know. The one
that I the one that I sort of feel good about.
So like I think Mike McCarthy could wind up with
the Saints. I think Ben Johnson if like if certain
things move around, like if they if they could reassign
(38:59):
Trem Balky, I think you could end up in Jacksonville.
I think Vegas is a possibility for him. I like
Aaron Glenn with the Jets or Saints maybe, like if
McCarthy winds up with the Saints, and I think Glenn
winds up with the Jets. Chicago's a wild card to
me because I think Chicago, you know, I think, you know,
if you look at Chicago, could have be McCarthy, Could
it be Glenn? You know, I think you have like
(39:21):
the small you know, circle of the small group of
coaches that think are going to sort of have a
couple of teams, like really looking hard at them. So
Chicago's the one that's I think a little bit harder
to peg right now. And I'm not quite sure what
direction they go in, but I will give. I will
give like the team's credit. Like it does seem like
(39:42):
most of these teams are going into this with a
pretty open mind, and I think that's a good thing
to see, you know, because when you go in with
an open mind, it gives you a chance to go
and have like real conversations with people, and it's going
to make your organization better. Having talked to other teams
about the way they do bit, you know, guys from
other teams about the way that they do business. It's
(40:04):
going to give whoever your choice for the net for
your next coach is the best chance to succeed. So
so yeah, I mean I think I look, i'd say
the next one to be filled, that'd be kind of
tough to peg, you know, got into my head. Maybe
I'd take one to the chests.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Let me ask you. We were just talking last segment
about Justin Herbert. Jonas Knock seems to think that Justin
Herbert should be left alone and looked at glowingly the
same exact way Jim Harball looks at him. I say
he should be under the same type of scrutiny and
criticism as as Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville. Why is it
(40:43):
that it seems like Trevor or Justin Justin Herbert is
seemingly immune to like really really, I won't say harsh,
but definitely should be a little bit more intense scrutiny
and criticism on what he can possibly get done as
a quarterback in the in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Well, I think part of it is like the market
he's in, right, I mean, like if he was in
a market in the Northeast, or he was the quarterback
of the Bears or the Cowboys. Don't you guys think
it would be different?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
What are you trying to say about l Aer Damn man?
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Well, I don't know, I don't know. It's charge of
shiver like like overtaking lad. I mean, like I'm just saying, like,
don't you It's just different. It's just different. And it's
like I look at it like, you know, like there
are certain places where you know, the quarterback of the
football team is going to be viewed like every every
(41:39):
everything that he does is going to be watched very
very closely, and every game is going to be treated
like a season onto itself, you know what I mean? Like,
and I don't know that that that that Herbert's been
under that sort of microscope, you know, on a week
to week based in Los Angeles. Now that said, I
think he's got I think he's already a really good quarterback,
(42:00):
you know, and I think like Jim Harvard is the
right coach for him, and I think they're going to
get there. You know, I look at the quarterback across town,
and you know, in Matthew Stafford, he had to ride
out a lot of bumps early in his career and
he wound up getting there. The flip side of it, though,
the flip side of it is the very elite quarterbacks,
right like, look at what those guys go through and
(42:22):
have made it. Pat made it through right like Joe Burrow.
I would say, like, lift it up that organization and
change the perception at angles right like and played behind.
I mean, got to a Super Bowl with a really
shaky offensive line. You look at Lamar Jackson this year,
they lose sixty percent of their offensive line. They don't
miss a beat Buffalo Josh Allen. They lose Stefan Diggs,
(42:44):
they lose Mitch Morris this offseason. The defense loses a
lot of its leadership infrastructure. They may be better this
year than they were the year before. Kansas City is
the ultimate example. They trade Tyreek Kill. They went back
to back Super Bowl the two years after they trade
Tyree Kill. Think about that, right, and then think about
like their tackle issue this year, like what they had
to kind of fight through a tackle and not knowing
(43:07):
who their left tackle was until the very end of
the year. When they move a guard out there to
play that position. Let's they have all the injuries you
know at receiver with Rushie Rice and Hollywood Brown going down,
it's shift. I mean, like that's the very elite level,
like where instead of like being kind of Clyde de
(43:28):
your circumstances, you're fixing every problem your team has. And
so is Herbert on that level. I don't think we
can say he's on that level yet right like, because
those guys have done it and I don't know that
he's done it like they have. But there's no shame
in being, you know, in the next level down, which
I think is probably where he's at right now.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Albert Breer, before we let you go this state tradition,
I'm looking at DraftKings right now, Ohio State an eight
and a half point favorite. Yeah, though hasn't It might
have got up to nine maybe in nine and a
half some plays, but it's been pretty steady at eight
and a half on DraftKings throughout the course of you think, Yeah,
(44:08):
what do you think, Bri, what do you.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Think are you guys taking?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
It's a lot of points, it is, but Notre Dame's
pretty banged up, so I can understand why that would
be the thought. But it is a lot of points.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
I think Ohio State is going to destroy them. Damn.
I they're playing on such a high level right now.
It's if they continued like Texas was going to be
their hardest game. That's what I think. I.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
I and I watched LeVar, right, it sort of felt
like there were points of the tens. I don't want
to rehash anything for you, but I didn't feel.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Like there were we should have took the game over.
They should have took the game over. We did feel
like that it it felt like we could have ran
away with it.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yes, right, right right, And I and I sort of
feel like this like the Texas game. If you look,
and I think Texas was a team that physically was
like most of like Ohio States tire. There were points
where Ohio State could have run away with that, and
like they kept the penalties kept coming and you had
a bad turnover, and like there were certain things that
(45:13):
kind of kept that one close. My my, my, my,
my head says, they cover my heart says, I don't
want to drink something. So I'll give you the points
in the interest of in the interest of dog, very very.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Good, well played, that is well played. That'll keep you
the boy.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Sorry, I got to be my gambling, my gambling language, right.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
I'll take some point.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, well a B. We appreciate it. Albert Breer, Senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the mm QB, the
star of and Amazon's NFL on Prime Thursday night coverage
and get them on ex at Albert Brier, thanks so much,
enjoying the games this weekend. Good luck to the buck
guys on Monday.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
All right, all right, thanks guys, and in all seriousness,
all the best everybody out there in Los Angeles. I
hope you get you guys and your families are doing good,
and everybody else too.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
We're all we're all rooting for you out there.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Appreciate it, man. Yeah, it's been a wild one. So yeah,
we're hopefully hopefully out of the woods at some point here.
Thanks Ab. We'll do it again next week, guys. The
Great Albert Breer with us year on Fox Sports Radio.
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Rings and Brady Winn and Jonas Knox on
four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Brady's not here because he has a major life event.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
A major life event. Yeah, and up on the bet
that you didn't pay up on, which is what you know.
He's turning in, Brandy. What do you mean I'm joking?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
No, he so, Brady? You mean Brady's expecting child number
thirty two. Uh so he's uh.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Talking about a quarterback slinging that rock.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
To dap quinn back to thrown. It's another touchdown.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I don't think he's suspecting anymore. I think he think
he's got to go about now.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, it's not then. I don't know, man, but yeah,
so so we I don't want to tease this and
have it not happened, but I would I would point
out that he has said that maybe he would call
in while listen. I don't know if it's while it's
actually happening, or potentially from the hospital. So if that
(01:23):
is the case, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Think it's already I thought he said it already was
it would have happened by now. I would assume he
would be calling as as a new happy pop pop
more than calling for us to experience it with them.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Now. When I my wife had my son, I was
trying to schedule it to where I could actually do
the show while it was happening, because that's again, that's
like another level of commitment. But I was unfortunate and
not able to have that how they go down.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I mean, was she okay with he doing it that way?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
But you know that who's that stop? You know, it's
just like, hey, I gotta go, I gotta grab something
real quick. I'm gonna get something from the vending machine.
Do you want anything?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Know?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And then you come back and you know, next thing,
you know, I'm tossing the lead to Laugher in case
you missed it. Like it's just you know, you just
kind of slowly work it into the show, work it
into the situation, then you should be fine. So there's
ways around it, you know, no big or buddy, but
congratulations to to the Quinns. And if Brady can make
(02:31):
it work, then we're gonna be good to go here
and we're gonna have somebody a brand new dad on
the air joining us here. At some point during the
course of the show, Thank you, Jerry, which is appropriate
because no, by the way, you know, Jerry, that's that's
an interesting SoundBite from you based on what happened last
(02:54):
off season. But oh god, I mean, listen teaser that
thing short disappeared. It's amazing. You know, maybe that's why
he was nicol and diving Mike McCarthy on the contract
length and the terms and all that, because that is
one of the stories out there is that they wanted
Mike McCarthy to reduce the number of assistants he had.
(03:17):
That there was, you know, a thought that maybe Jerry
didn't want to pay a premium or top dollar that
some other organizations were paying. And you know, the more
that this stuff starts to come out, the more we
find out about this coaching search when it comes to
the Dallas Cowboys, and one of the things that was
(03:38):
discussed yesterday Jane Slater of the NFL Network who pointed
out that Jerry Jones has kind of taken this into
his own hands, that he's gone on a bit of
a solo mission, so he's the one reaching out and
he's the one having conversations. Some of the names that
were thrown out there. Obviously we talked about the Jason Witten,
(03:59):
who you know, Jerry Jones looked at as the potential
heir apparent. Kellen Moore's name was brought up, Dion Sanders,
John Gruden, Steve Sarkesian. She brought up that, you know,
there's been no reaching out to sark yet, but potentially
that could be something that could pop up. Dion Sanders
(04:19):
and some betting markets is the betting favorite to be
the coach. There the fact that they're having to go
this route and the fact that Jerry Jones is taking
on this quote unquote solo mission tells me he didn't
expect Mike McCarthy to not be the coach, and I
think he assumed that Mike McCarthy and then we're going
to get a deal done. And now I don't know
(04:40):
if panic is the right word, but it seems like
maybe he's a little pissed off at the situation and
it's like I'll just take it into my own hands.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
That seems interesting. I mean, if that were the case,
then why wouldn't Mike McCarthy still be the coach? Like
he has the Jerry Jones has the ability and the
resources to have alluded that type of surprise that would
(05:10):
seem strange to me. You didn't expect to have to
find a new head coach, Like, I don't get it, Like, Okay,
you had too many assistant coaches. I mean, you ain't
won nothing, damn. So I mean, what are all those
people doing there for? But I mean, what Mike McCarthy
(05:31):
forego renewing his contract based off of having too many
assistant coaches? I don't think so. So if what you're
saying has any validity to it, you're talking about a
bigger issue that is potentially existing here as it applies
to a coach wanting to be there, because you're basically
(05:54):
saying that Mike McCarthy is the reason why Mike McCarthy
is out of a job, not Jerry Jones and the
Dallas Cowboys. So that would be what I would be asking, is, well,
why is it that Mike McCarthy did not re up
his contract? Why is it that Jerry Jones has found
himself in a situation where he has to try to
(06:17):
find a coach when he wasn't anticipating that he was
going to need a new coach for his team. That's
strange and for what is worth outside of Dion Sanders,
and honestly speaking, even no disrespect, but even Dion, none
of those names scream you're you're upgrading your your opportunities
(06:41):
to be able to try to go for a Super Bowl.
I don't, I don't. I don't get that. That doesn't
seem to make sense, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's why when I kind of threw the question at
you guys yesterday, like, hey, are any of these names
and upgrade over Mike McCarthy, I just I mean, Dion's
a splash higher, but we don't know how that's going
to work in the NFL. What we do know is
Mike McCarthy has worked in the NFL, and you could
say whatever you want about his playoff failures and all
that in Dallas, Dude, the guys, I mean, he won
(07:13):
a Super Bowl, He's won a ton of games in
multiple places. He's been a coach for like eighteen years
or something like that. He's like, his resume speaks for itself.
So then you're basically late to the dance. Everybody else
has made the move, had interviews with coaches that are
still coaching in the playoffs. Now you're late, and you're
(07:33):
scrambling and all of these different names are popping up
out there, and I just look at it and go,
there's no way this was the plan. And if this
was the plan, it just looks like more unorganized, disjointed
Dallas Cowboy negotiations that we've seen with players and now
we're seeing with coaches. It's just weird.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, and I think to your point, what adds the
complications to all of this is that Dallas has been
dysfunctional for so long that you can no longer use
the star or use saying Dallas or Cowboys. You can't
(08:16):
use that as as a significant legitimate draw. Like you
even heard your own former quarterback and Troy Aikman basically
allude to or say or hint to the fact that
it isn't that prestigious of a job to get if
you're a head coach.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's a pretty damning statement.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Coming from one of the damning statement.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
One of the great players in the history of the organization.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So I don't know what you lean on at this
point to get the type of coach to lure in
the type of coach that you might want. And for
what it's worth. I hate to say this as well,
because it stinks that this is how guys have to
get jobs. But at the same time, you know what
opportunity presents itself to take advantage of it. You know,
(09:01):
Dion couldn't get a major gig. He was trying to
get the Florida State gig. They didn't want to give
it to him. The dude goes to a place where
it's like, come on, man, like this is the job
that Dion Sanders has to take. He goes to Jackson State,
no shade to Jackson State. But the bottom line is
he ends up there because you know, he couldn't get
(09:23):
a major school to take him seriously, he ends up
going to Colorado, which is like, y'all know, it was insignificant,
insignificant school, you know, And so he gets a job
by default because Colorado was not a desirable job, a
(09:46):
one win team. Now he turns that around and what
he finds himself in a position again where possibly he
gets the opportunity to take a major head coaching job
role at the National Football League because it's one of
the more insignificant organizations that you should want to coach at.
(10:07):
It's kind of crazy that that's the way your opportunity
would come about. But I will say this, and like
I said sit in the show yesterday, if there's one
person that is more in tune to their own world
that they've created. Some people call guys like that delusional
(10:29):
people because they totally have created their own alternate, alternate
universe of reality. I always say the most successful people
are those people you're considered crazy until you're not crazy anymore.
People thought Dion was crazy for going to Colorado. People
thought that Dion wouldn't be able to get any more
(10:50):
wins than what they were already getting. He took his
alternate you know, his alternate reality and his alternate universe
to Colorado and transformed it into Dion's world. I would
assume wherever he goes, he's going to do the same
exact thing, because that's just who he is. He creates
(11:11):
his own world wherever it is that he goes. Jerry
Jones has done the same thing, but he's not going anywhere.
He's in one place. If there were one person that
could handle the delusion and the alternate universe that Jerry
Jones lives in, it would be Deon Sanders. And that's why,
(11:34):
if you're really being somewhat sensible about your coaching search,
and you're thinking about the guys that are out there
that are available to you that you could possibly bring in.
Why would you not put all your chips on the
table and go after Dion Sanders.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I mean, you kind of have to at this point,
don't you, Like, I.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Don't know that you kind of have to. You can
do whatever you want to do. But if you're talking
about somebody that could come in, like you said, splash higher,
of course it has splash higher written on it because
of Dion Sanders' brand as Dion Sanders. But the reality
of it is is that the man can coach. The
(12:16):
man can coach, and he has has great relationships Jonas,
his his his coaching staffs, his his administrative people. He
has the infrastructure to bring in and do a job
of a stand up, a bang up job. Ain't nobody
(12:37):
gonna have no problem with him saying he's bringing his
lowis bags in to Dallas. Who's gonna have a problem
with that? You know? And everything that he will bring
to the table. I think that the value of who
he is and what he would do and what he
would bring, not to mention ticket sales and the selling
of hope and the possibilities. You know, those things would
(13:01):
totally you know, go to a whole other level in
terms of excitement of bringing in Deon Sanders, I mean
that junk would be I mean that would be an
epic proportion, Like I don't think we will have ever
seen anything like that in terms of what it would
turn into. The pageantry of it and the introductions of
(13:21):
Deon Sanders coming in and taking over Dallas so he
could take and leverage this in so many different ways.
But at the same time, the coolest thing about it
is is that it's not a gimmick. Deon Sanders is
not a gimmick. He's a coach and he knows how
to do it, and he knows how to build. So
(13:42):
I don't even look at it as like, oh, he's
the best option right now. He would be the best
option if some of these guys out here were still
in the mix to want to go to or go
to any team that they're going to go to. I
think I think you can really really sell it to
On as Dallas and Jerry Jones more so than any
(14:04):
of the of these other franchises that are out here
in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, but he's still like, no matter who gets the job,
their plan B, Plan A was Mike McCarthy returning as coach.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
And so that's your speculation.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, look, why were they negotiating then? If there wasn't
mutual interest, why were they Why were they negotiating?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I don't. I don't. I'm just not going to speculate
on it. While I'll say that even if that were
the case, Even if that were the case, you know,
there might have been somebody who was negotiating to come
into our time slot, you know, but it ended up
being us that took it.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Right there was nobody, so there was nobody for the job.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I don't. I don't even care if I'm just using
it as an example.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And if we're going to be frank, if we're going
to be frank, once they saw my name on the
dotted line, everybody wanted in on this, you know what
I'm saying, if we're going to be frank about the
whole thing, I got your coaching search right here.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Well, there you go. That that'll end the segment.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
There you go, get that work.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I guess that's just a mic. A mic drops get that, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Add ends be sure to catch live editions of Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington,
and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app What
Up Sticks.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
All right your Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, let's discuss because apparently,
while Russell Wilson was waxing poetically at his end of
season press conference talking about how he plans to be
back in Pittsburgh. He wants to be back, loved his
time there, loved his teammates, the city, the setup, all
(15:58):
of that, and at times played pretty good quarterback for
the Steelers this year. But apparently not everything was all
that smooth when it came to Russell Wilson, even though
he's working out in Pittsburgh Steelers gear, he's doing all
the stuff after the season here and trying to talk
about how great the organization is. Mark Coboli, who covers
(16:21):
the Pittsburgh Steelers, he pointed out that, well, listen, you know,
not everything was apparently all that smooth because he did
not see eye to eye with offensive coordinator Arthur Smith.
As Kabolei put it when he wrote up his column
(16:42):
discussing the end of the season and the Pittsburgh Steelers
and what their plan is at quarterback. He said the
following that the working relationship between Arthur Smith and Russell Wilson,
they fought through it their differences as best as they could,
but it was not a great working relationship. And there
(17:03):
is some thought there that the organization and people within
the organization, including Arthur Smith at one point, preferred Justin
Fields over Russell Wilson. So, huh, all that is in
the back drum?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Is that a is that a smear campaign? Though? I
will say this, if you think about it, hasn't that
kind of been Russell Wilson's resume? That's wasn't that how
it was? And like you remember seeing how him and
Sean Payton interacted and Denver, Yeah, and just kind of
(17:43):
how his teammates eventually came out talked about him and
how they felt about him in Seattle. So this seems
like this kind of is following him in terms of
how he's viewed.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It's like the third time we've heard something like this,
and you know, they there was reports of him this
season where they and even you know in what Markabutley
reported here at the end of the season, and he
put this out yesterday or the day before, just saying, look,
they spent a lot of time working together to learn
the offense. They even joked about it at one point
Mike Tomlin mentioned it. But as much as they work
(18:17):
together and tried to work through it just not a
great relationship overall. And now this is to your point, Seattle,
he had a falling out with Pete Carroll, Denver, he
had a falling out with everybody Pittsburgh apparently him in
the offensive coordinator did not see eye to eye, and
we're not having the greatest working relationship while trying to,
(18:39):
you know, get the offense together. From a player standpoint,
this does feel like it's not so much as Seattle thing.
Maybe it's not a Denver thing, Maybe it's not a
Pittsburgh thing.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
This was like it's a Russell Wilson thing. Yeah, that's
what it sounds like. Like it's a diva mentality. And listen, well,
for whatever it's worth, you know, quarterbacks are divas. They're
just different type of people man, and like receivers like these,
these guys have different types of mental emotional makeups and
(19:11):
how they do things. And how they handle things, and
some guys are much more extreme than the other. I
don't think it takes a rocket scientist, and I don't
think it takes somebody being bold enough or brave enough
to actually say that, oh without getting in trouble or
getting accused of being a hater of this person or
data that, whatever it may be that you would say
(19:32):
your conclusion of Russell Wilson is that he's a diva.
I knew it. It was official when he had that
shiny ass prompt suit on with the shiny shoes, Like
he's a diva, Like, no doubt about it. That his
approach to things. You know, he's been in an Entourage movie,
he married a singer entertainer. You know, there was the
(19:57):
whole conversation point when you remember when Tom Brady was
in the Super Bowl and Russell Wilson was sitting with
the commissioner and there were reports that came out that
Russell Wilson wanted to kind of pull off the same
exact thing, go to a market, create the same environment
that Tom Brady. You remember that, Like, I just I
(20:19):
just think that everything that you look at says if
it looks like a duck walks like a duck, quacks
like a duck. It's a duck. And Russell Wilson is
a diva. He walks like one, he talks like one,
and he acts like one. And that just is what
it is. So the question is is his results Do
(20:40):
his results offset the diva mentality? You know, you look
at a guy like Aaron Rodgers, and nobody is surprised
when you say Aaron Rodgers is a diva. It just
is what it is. He has diva tendencies, he does
things in a diva way. He's in the media. He
wants to make sure that you can hear his voice
(21:01):
and hear how he talks about things and his superior
reasoning into as to why things happened the way that
they do, especially within his ecosystem. And you know what,
He's been talented enough in years past where he could
get away with it. It's just that the water ran bad,
the whale went bad for him when he went to
(21:21):
New York, didn't play out the way that he thought
it would play out. Russell Wilson, he had some really good,
good weeks with the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I find it
not surprising that come the end of the season, after
disappointing departure from the playoffs and not having as much
offensive output as you would have liked to have seen
(21:44):
from this team, that you hear some of these things
surface about the quarterback because you got that feeling coming
out of Denver that the reason why him and Sean
Payton kind of butted heads is the guy with the offense,
the office in the in the building and the twenty
million dollar house with three bathrooms and one hundred different
(22:08):
uh you know, or one hundred different bathrooms and only
three bedrooms that you know, this is just a different dude.
You're dealing with a different type of dude.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think you're kind of being unfair and misrepresenting where
he lived in Denver. It was okay, four bedrooms, twelve
craft closets like that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That was I mean, I wasn't far off.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I mean, you know, I feel like we've got I
wasn't far here. If we're going to do.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
How many did I say, sixteen bathrooms? Three bedrooms?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They got far?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean, look, and who knows. And this is not
to discredit the reporting of of Koboli, who's been covering,
you know, the Steelers for years. And years. I mean,
I would assume you know, his sources are pretty good
on this. Maybe this is true that Russ and Arthur
Smith as oc. Didn't have a great working relationship, and
maybe this will impact what they do moving forward if
(22:56):
he was that much of a diva. I just I
look at it like this any way you want to
slice it. The Steelers are in no man's land in
that division. They just are, like thankfully the Cleveland Browns
are a vomit bucket, and you can look to them
and go, well, at least we're not them. But when
you look around that division, that conference, and your solution
(23:19):
at quarterback is and your answer at quarterback and predicament
at quarterback is the same as it was last year.
This year they were supposed to learn who their guy
was going to be going forward, like you would have
like whether it was going to be justin Fields, whether
it was going to be Russell Wilson. A they're on
the Chiefs, but let's find out who gets this gig
what They don't have an answer now, And you just
(23:41):
played an entire season and went to the playoffs. That's bad.
Like you're in no man's land again in that division.
Same as you were last year going into the season.
So basically, what did this year accomplish? Like, I really
don't know, Like it's you're the same team.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
You want to know what it accomplished, You know what
a ash jonas Unfortunately it accomplished almost justifying all of
the critics of Mike Tomlin. You know, I've heard this
whole undercurrent of how people from internal positions that may
(24:20):
not be or may be still associated with the organization
or not associated with the organization talking about how the
culture of the Pittsburgh Steelers has been lost. And it's
not something that I've ever wanted to believe because I
feel like what I see at Mike Tomlin is certainly
(24:41):
a man who embraces what the still city represents. And
so when I heard that, these were kind of the
sentiments that were being, you know, kind of put out
there as it applied to Mike Tomlin and what the
locker room was like and what the culture was like
and what it's become from what it was when guys
like Rob Woodson and Greg Lloyd and Levon Kirkland. We're
(25:04):
in that locker room too now with the current group
of guys that are there it's like the things that
made the Steelers, what made the Steelers through the Chuck
Nole era, through the Bill Coward era, and maybe potentially
the early days of when Mike Tomlin was there, are gone.
(25:26):
And then you start to say to yourself, no, because
you listen to the way Mike Tomlin interviews and his soundbites,
and you get a very solid feeling of he's very,
very rooted in the person that he is, the principles,
the values that he represents. You get a great feel for,
you know, what you believe him to be by the
(25:46):
things that he says and how he represents himself. But
then you hear about all of these situations that continue
to keep arising. You know, starting with Antonio Brown and
you know the beef between him and Ben Roethlisberger, and
then now you got this receiver. You know, you got
the Pickings deal. Then you know now the latest being
(26:08):
you know, the beef between Russell Wilson and the offensive coordinator.
It's like, why did you even bring Russell Wilson there?
Like it's kind of interesting because when I said it,
it's like, he's not a Pittsburgh guy, but yet you
brought him there and while for a moment in time
(26:28):
it kind of looked like it might work out. Then
you come to find out later on that there was
like internal beefing going on with Russell Wilson and the
coaching staff or the offensive coordinator. Then you start to
think to yourself, huh, like, oh, Justin Fields might have
been the better option. Justin Fields didn't play that well
as a startup.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
He's like, Russ is there and Justin's there because it
didn't work with the guy you spent a first round
pick on and Kenny Pickett and if you remember, and
if you remember, there was and look Mark Madden, who
who's covered Pittsburgh sports for a long time, and he
was consistent on this the entire time and said Pickett
refused to go into a game at one point or
(27:10):
refuse to suit There was an opportunity for him to
suit up, but he was going to be a backup
and he refused to so he didn't like That's another
story that came out last year. So there is a
lot of stuff that you bring up that you look
at and go that's kind of you don't hear that,
And they can try and dispute it and refute it
(27:31):
all they want, but there is seemingly a lot of
chaos there, kind of under underreported and underdiscussed based on
how everybody feels about Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I'm just I've never been one to try to start
any type of bee for drama that's connected to a
fine coach. I just never. I've never been into that
and to speculate, because that can be damaging. I'm on
a national platform and to try to be as responsible
(28:01):
as I possibly can when I'm speaking on coaches and
even players. That's why I got into media to begin with,
because I feel like the misrepresentation of players and coaches
at times is unbearable to me. You got people that
I have no idea what things really are about, haven't
experienced it, but yet they feel the need to define
(28:24):
it and report it and feed it to the masses
of people. That's why I got into media. So I
try to be very careful and cognizant of how I'm
representing what I say. I would like to try to
be as accurate as I possibly can and be fair
and even so that the voice that I'm giving is
a voice of not only the people and someone who's
(28:47):
reporting what they feel and opinions to the people, but
also what I feel and what the opinions are of
the athlete and the coaches as well. And I just
got to be honest with you, I feel like there's
there is an escalation of smoke that is coming from Pittsburgh.
I feel like there might have to be more discussion
(29:11):
surrounding what is the future of the Pittsburgh Steelers, because
I don't know that now. Some of the things that
I've heard, like that culture of what the Pittsburgh Steelers represent,
especially in the locker room and around the building, if
it's getting lost, if the message has been so diluted
(29:33):
and eroded through the years, if that's what it is,
and now it's just more so the figurehead of seeing
and hearing. What Mike Tomlin represents almost more so is
representative of himself, not so much of the team and
the organization. I just wonder if there is some validity
(29:54):
to that statement when you hear it being said. And
I'm just basing that off of things I've heard from
former players and people who've been around it. That's not
me making it up, that's me hearing it from people
I've been around that have been in the building that
have experienced at first head and that for me, at first,
I was like, Yeah, that doesn't sound right. That doesn't
(30:16):
sound right to me. I don't subscribe to that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
What's wrong with asking the question? Yeah, Like what's wrong
with like, hey man, they're just.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Asking now, like you gotta start asking it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
They're just every year there's there's some issue, there's something
that pops up, and he just wonder, like I love
Mike Tomlin. I mean, if they were going to make
him available for a trade, somebody would trade for him.
You'd be an upgrade in a lot of places. Just
you do wonder. There's just there seems to be a
lot of stuff going on there every year, every single year.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Right now, it is a Thursday tradition. It is Albert Brier,
the star of Amazon's NFL on prime coverage every single Thursday.
He's a senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the
m MPB. You can get him on x at Albert
Brier ab good morning. How are we feeling?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I see Brady's ducking me huh.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Oh swipeing early. He's they're expecting U are looking pretty good.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I wish if we just tay congratulations to Brady. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, so uh he's well thanks, that's very kind of Yeah,
that's very nice for you to be looking to say
congratulations to him, like, you.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Know, the last time, for the last time this week. Yeah,
that's the last time this week.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Can I support LeVar in this moment? Like just like, okay,
all about that.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Was a tough one, LeVar. That was a tough one.
I will say that. I mean, you guys have something
like I felt the totally play. If you guys have
some athletes like I, I don't know, like it was.
It would be hard for me to watch that if
I at ten State and not feel like, yeah, not
that combination of like Abuel Carter and Tyler Warren and
(32:10):
Nick Singleton and Allen and like it's just you sort
of look at and it's like, was this the team?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Like I don't know, yeah, you know all those guys, well,
some of those guys are coming back next year. At
least you know. Yeah, they chose to come back, so
we should be good good you know.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Yeah, well maybe maybe it'll be like a slot like
this year right where we we got everybody back for
an extra year. So anyway, I'm trying to help. I'm
trying to help with oar out there.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah, thank you for the support. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Maybe I got to ask you, how real is the
Ben Johnson to the Raiders smoke that's out there?
Speaker 4 (32:53):
I think relatively real? Like you know, I Tom Brady
is a factor in this, and you know, I think
at the beginning of it then wasn't even gonna take
an interview with them, you know. And yeah, and I
think I said to you guys, would be a little
bit more selective, so, you know, the three interviews that
he had chosen to take or New England, which I
(33:14):
think he sort of viewed that as a warm up,
and he liked the New England job, but I think
most people felt like it was probably going to very
wall along, you know, and then yeah, Jacksonville and Chicago,
and you know, Brady I was was was really able
to sell his people on the idea of of of
what the Raiders could be and what the Raiders, we're
(33:35):
gonna do to change what they've been over the last
couple of decades, and that this wouldn't be the same
old Raiders, and you know it's it's not just Tom
like which you know, I think he's a piece of it,
you know, and he's not going to be there day
to day. He lives in Florida. But you know, I
think there was this sort of like conviction that like,
there's gonna be we're going to get good people there,
(33:58):
and you know there's gonna be there's gonna be financial
backing there with you know this this uh, this this
private equity CEO Egan Durban and some other guys investing
in the team now, and you're gonna have some time
to build it out. So the roster isn't very good now.
I don't think you guys need me to tell you that.
And there's gonna whoever is the coach is going to
(34:19):
need some runway, you know. But I think what the
Raiders have to offer is sort of different than what
the other teams have to offer, which you know, Jacksonville, Hast,
Trevor Lawrence, the decent core of players. Chicago has Caleb Williams,
some pieces to build around. The Raiders kind of offer
you a blank slate where it's like, Okay, we're going
(34:40):
to give you the chance to build this the way
that you see fit, and we're going to give you
this flaying canvas. And so I think the appeal to
the job is a little bit different than than than
what you're seeing with the other with the other two.
But yeah, I mean think the interest is real. He
wouldn't have taken the interview unless it was he wasn't
going to take an inter this year at the job
(35:01):
that he wouldn't, you know, legitimately see himself taking, which
is one reason why you don't hear about him with
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Ab was Mike McCarthy not reupping and still being the
coach of Dallas a surprise to Jerry Jones and moving forward?
You know, Jonas asked a question, any of these coaches
out here and upgrade to Mike McCarthy. I think that
Dion Sanders should be a legitimate contender or recipient for
(35:32):
the job, not because you know, the fame and the
splash idea of it. I think he's really a good
coach and I think he might be maybe the final
frontier in terms of somebody who actually thinks just as
highly of themselves and what they know and what they
bring to the table and would be able to handle
being in an environment such as Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, I think LeVar, like the last thing he said,
is an important piece of it, which like, not everybody's
cut out to coach in Dallas. You know, It's it's
a different environment there. It's not the same as the
other thirty one, you know, and the pressure of being
in that role, managing the relationship with ownership, when ownership
(36:16):
so involved in the football operation, the structure of it
is is just different, you know, the pressure, it's just different.
And you know, I think the upside of all that
as the coach is going to have a major say,
you know, and I think Jerry's coaches would all tell
you that that, like the coach there is not just
you know, it's not just their coach. He's gonna have
(36:37):
input in personnel. He's gonnaut to have input in the
way the team's put together, and so you know, like
I I think understanding kind of the dynamics of the
organization are an important.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Piece of it.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I also think like you know, for all the flash
and everything else. I mean, lavarthink you degree with that
actually an old school coach, right, like you know what
I mean, Like he like I think his principles of
you watch, you watch the way he works, you watch
what the way he handles his team's very old school,
you know. And I think in that way, it's not
unlike like a Saban or a Belichick where it's like
(37:10):
you're going to have a team that is gonna really
be grounded and fundamentals, and and it's going to be tough,
you know, and and and and and it's going to
be looking for a certain type of player. So I
think all that stuff is good, you know, Like I
think the flip side of it is, you would you
are going to need some infrastructure to help him adjust
(37:32):
to coaching at the NFL level from a scheme standpoint
and all of that. So I think, like you can
you can build that stuff out, you know what I mean,
Like you can you can go get coaches that are
going to be able to help you in those areas
and and and help support Dion as he makes his
transition to the NFL. So I I I don't think
it's the craziest idea in the world that that that
(37:53):
he could make it work. It's a risk, it could
certainly crash and burn. But I do think, like beyond
all the packaging that we get, like what we see
with Dion, you know, there is an old school like
like fundamental approach to the way that he does it.
But I think, you know is lost in some corners
of the NFL and probably would work in pro football
(38:15):
if again, you had the right infrastructure around him to
support him with some of the stuff that he might
need to catch up on in terms of in terms
of coaching in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Albert Brier is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on x at Albert Brier ab who's the
next if you had to guess right now, next vacancy filled?
And who's the guy that gets it?
Speaker 4 (38:37):
I mean, the rules make it really tough to have
to get this stuff done fast. You know. The one
that I the one that I sort of feel good about.
So like I think Mike McCarthy could wind up with
the Saints. I think Ben Johnson if like if certain
things move around, like if they if they could reassign
(38:59):
Trem Balky, I think you could end up in Jacksonville.
I think Vegas is a possibility for him. I like
Aaron Glenn with the Jets or Saints maybe, like if
McCarthy winds up with the Saints, and I think Glenn
winds up with the Jets. Chicago's a wild card to
me because I think Chicago, you know, I think, you know,
if you look at Chicago, could have be McCarthy, Could
it be Glenn? You know, I think you have like
(39:21):
the small you know, circle of the small group of
coaches that think are going to sort of have a
couple of teams, like really looking hard at them. So
Chicago's the one that's I think a little bit harder
to peg right now. And I'm not quite sure what
direction they go in, but I will give. I will
give like the team's credit. Like it does seem like
(39:42):
most of these teams are going into this with a
pretty open mind, and I think that's a good thing
to see, you know, because when you go in with
an open mind, it gives you a chance to go
and have like real conversations with people, and it's going
to make your organization better. Having talked to other teams
about the way they do bit, you know, guys from
other teams about the way that they do business. It's
(40:04):
going to give whoever your choice for the net for
your next coach is the best chance to succeed. So
so yeah, I mean I think I look, i'd say
the next one to be filled, that'd be kind of
tough to peg, you know, got into my head. Maybe
I'd take one to the chests.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Let me ask you. We were just talking last segment
about Justin Herbert. Jonas Knock seems to think that Justin
Herbert should be left alone and looked at glowingly the
same exact way Jim Harball looks at him. I say
he should be under the same type of scrutiny and
criticism as as Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville. Why is it
(40:43):
that it seems like Trevor or Justin Justin Herbert is
seemingly immune to like really really, I won't say harsh,
but definitely should be a little bit more intense scrutiny
and criticism on what he can possibly get done as
a quarterback in the in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Well, I think part of it is like the market
he's in, right, I mean, like if he was in
a market in the Northeast, or he was the quarterback
of the Bears or the Cowboys. Don't you guys think
it would be different?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
What are you trying to say about l Aer Damn man?
Speaker 4 (41:17):
Well, I don't know, I don't know. It's charge of
shiver like like overtaking lad. I mean, like I'm just saying, like,
don't you It's just different. It's just different. And it's
like I look at it like, you know, like there
are certain places where you know, the quarterback of the
football team is going to be viewed like every every
(41:39):
everything that he does is going to be watched very
very closely, and every game is going to be treated
like a season onto itself, you know what I mean? Like,
and I don't know that that that that Herbert's been
under that sort of microscope, you know, on a week
to week based in Los Angeles. Now that said, I
think he's got I think he's already a really good quarterback,
(42:00):
you know, and I think like Jim Harvard is the
right coach for him, and I think they're going to
get there. You know, I look at the quarterback across town,
and you know, in Matthew Stafford, he had to ride
out a lot of bumps early in his career and
he wound up getting there. The flip side of it, though,
the flip side of it is the very elite quarterbacks,
right like, look at what those guys go through and
(42:22):
have made it. Pat made it through right like Joe Burrow.
I would say, like, lift it up that organization and
change the perception at angles right like and played behind.
I mean, got to a Super Bowl with a really
shaky offensive line. You look at Lamar Jackson this year,
they lose sixty percent of their offensive line. They don't
miss a beat Buffalo Josh Allen. They lose Stefan Diggs,
(42:44):
they lose Mitch Morris this offseason. The defense loses a
lot of its leadership infrastructure. They may be better this
year than they were the year before. Kansas City is
the ultimate example. They trade Tyreek Kill. They went back
to back Super Bowl the two years after they trade
Tyree Kill. Think about that, right, and then think about
like their tackle issue this year, like what they had
to kind of fight through a tackle and not knowing
(43:07):
who their left tackle was until the very end of
the year. When they move a guard out there to
play that position. Let's they have all the injuries you
know at receiver with Rushie Rice and Hollywood Brown going down,
it's shift. I mean, like that's the very elite level,
like where instead of like being kind of Clyde de
(43:28):
your circumstances, you're fixing every problem your team has. And
so is Herbert on that level. I don't think we
can say he's on that level yet right like, because
those guys have done it and I don't know that
he's done it like they have. But there's no shame
in being, you know, in the next level down, which
I think is probably where he's at right now.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Albert Breer, before we let you go this state tradition,
I'm looking at DraftKings right now, Ohio State an eight
and a half point favorite. Yeah, though hasn't It might
have got up to nine maybe in nine and a
half some plays, but it's been pretty steady at eight
and a half on DraftKings throughout the course of you think, Yeah,
(44:08):
what do you think, Bri, what do you.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Think are you guys taking?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
It's a lot of points, it is, but Notre Dame's
pretty banged up, so I can understand why that would
be the thought. But it is a lot of points.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
I think Ohio State is going to destroy them. Damn.
I they're playing on such a high level right now.
It's if they continued like Texas was going to be
their hardest game. That's what I think. I.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
I and I watched LeVar, right, it sort of felt
like there were points of the tens. I don't want
to rehash anything for you, but I didn't feel.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Like there were we should have took the game over.
They should have took the game over. We did feel
like that it it felt like we could have ran
away with it.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yes, right, right right, And I and I sort of
feel like this like the Texas game. If you look,
and I think Texas was a team that physically was
like most of like Ohio States tire. There were points
where Ohio State could have run away with that, and
like they kept the penalties kept coming and you had
a bad turnover, and like there were certain things that
(45:13):
kind of kept that one close. My my, my, my,
my head says, they cover my heart says, I don't
want to drink something. So I'll give you the points
in the interest of in the interest of dog, very very.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Good, well played, that is well played. That'll keep you
the boy.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Sorry, I got to be my gambling, my gambling language, right.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
I'll take some point.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, well a B. We appreciate it. Albert Breer, Senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the mm QB, the
star of and Amazon's NFL on Prime Thursday night coverage
and get them on ex at Albert Brier, thanks so much,
enjoying the games this weekend. Good luck to the buck
guys on Monday.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
All right, all right, thanks guys, and in all seriousness,
all the best everybody out there in Los Angeles. I
hope you get you guys and your families are doing good,
and everybody else too.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
We're all we're all rooting for you out there.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Appreciate it, man. Yeah, it's been a wild one. So yeah,
we're hopefully hopefully out of the woods at some point here.
Thanks Ab. We'll do it again next week, guys. The
Great Albert Breer with us year on Fox Sports Radio.
Hosts And Creators
Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
I Do, Part 2
From Executive Producers Jennie Garth, Jana Kramer, Amy Robach, and T.J. Holmes. Did you think you met the love of your life and marry him, only to realize it was actually “thank you, next?" Did this jerk cheat on you and leave you feeling alone and hopeless? Don’t make the same mistake twice... Get it right THIS time! Is it time to find true love…again?! If you loved the Golden Bachelor, SILVER just might be your color. Older and wiser, 50 and Fabulous, and ready for a little sex in the city. Everyone has baggage, but you’re not bringing it on this trip. Second Times The Charm. I Do, Part Two. An iHeartRadio podcast...where finding love is the main objective.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.