Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Super Bowl achieves breaks records with TV ratings thanks to new data collection. Who received the most collateral damage between Taylor Swift, the Cowboys, Dolphins, Gisele Bundchen and AFC West? Plus, NFL Insider Pete Prisco gives his insights from the Big Game.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple with
lamar As Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Can I just tell you guys, that's how my stomach
was filling yesterday? Oh no, the way this song sounds
that really streaming part. Yeah, But you know what the
cool thing about it is is it came after I
made one of the I made some some smash burgers yesterday.
Hell yeah, crushed them. What kind of blend do you

(00:35):
use for your meat? You know what? Dark meat?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I got a cure for being a race baiter yesterday
because I lean into y'all messing around.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
It's so crazy.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
I'm not a race baiter people, you know, anybody stop
reading accents.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I know, but I like to check out, like what
what people are saying here and there.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's not it's not a good you know what.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Time I use some some some fresh ground beef, like fresh.
It was fresh, and I you know, threw my through
my gloves on, my rubber gloves on, and got just
seasoning it. And I seasoned it lightly. I didn't go
heavy on seaton. You know how some people say, if

(01:20):
you're not sneezing, you're not seasoning or whatever. I didn't
want to go too deep with the seasoning, so I
just kept it very simple, very plain. Some fresh black pepper,
some some fresh kosher salt, and balled them up, put
them in like little balls, not big balls, like like

(01:41):
real little balls, like yeah, not like the hand side
filling balls, like like you know, like little war balls.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
You throw them on there.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I had the little you know, like the big cooking
pan that that creates like almost like uh, you know,
like the what's that joint call when you go to
you know, Benny Hannah, you know, like the top like
THATCHI like it looks like like a hibachi f little
flat top grill, right, And I squished them up. I

(02:11):
squashed them down. They spread out and they don't cook long,
like they don't cook long. Flip them over, put that
cheese on it, and then put another one on it.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
We did doubles. I almost cursed like the s was good.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
And then I threw the patties on like I put
and I used keto buns shouts out the PhD.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
I threw my chto buns on.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
There, and I squashed them down, squashed the buns down
with the with the burger.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
I call them squashed, I said, squash burgers.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I know they're smashed, but I like I like squashed
them down or you know, I guess smash is better
a word for it. But anyway, I was happy about them.
Oh man, I gotta tell you, I like want to
make them every day. Now I've discovered something about myself.
I know how to make a smash burger.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
You can eat this.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, so there you go. I probably should have did
that for the super Bowl, but I didn't.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
Yeah, well that's all right. Did you go one patty
or two?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I doubled them. I doubled all because they're small, all right.
You know, they're real thin, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Like because otherwise the bun to meat ratios that's not
too much.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's too much bun, not enough meat. What kind of
bun do you like? I like them real thick and juicy.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Who knows? You can't say dark meat again for a bun.
Dark meat wouldn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
I mean, but I'm saying sesame seed, you know, brioche, Like,
what are we working with?

Speaker 6 (03:55):
I used the keto like a regular regular.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
I would love to have used King's Hawaiian.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, that would have been the go to, like the
real good one, and I will do that, like I
believe I can make a doghouse a dog house. Burger
You guys are up on doghouse Now, what's what's that?
It's like this burger spot.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've never but they have hot dogs
and there was using kingswey, which, by the way, why
does sticks run away from me?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yesterday?

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Escape artist out? I put him. I put him a racist,
That's what it is. Huh were you getting hostile racist? Bro?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I chased him. It's like, you know, dolta had a point.
He's too big. He's too big now for me to
just grab him and and like just walk him back.
He's like way too big. So he I was about
to take him for his walk and he escapes from
his harness like he knows how to like back out
of his harness. So he backs out of his harness
and I can't you know, I'm like going to get him.

(04:55):
And he's a runner now, like he'll run away, so
I'm going to get on my They was like do
you need anyhow?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Oh he was the home.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
He was running away, So I get I catch up
to him and he goes around the car, and you
know how, you put your hands on the car and
you're like.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Stop that, stop that stop that stop that stop, don't
do that, don't do that.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Stop stop, you know how you're trying to get him
around the car. So finally, that's really ridiculous. Looks like Lee.
So also it looks like.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
What Lee, we have to go to So he finally
starts to run way and I try to tackle him,
like literally, like boom, hit him into the bushes. We
both go into the bushes and I went down and
he did it and he kept running. And that's when
I realized that being a linebacker is not a part
of my life anymore. Oh no, yeah, I wouldn't be

(05:50):
able to take anybody down. I'd love to chase my
dog down. But well you could chase him down, just
you have to go down, go down into the ground, you.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Know, six feet.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
You just need to rent renting excavator and there you go.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Get on down.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
There a hard hat. Lunch pills have got good point.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's the year to the boxer. Man, Get you a boxer.
Hell yeah, I mean I would say get a borable,
but that might be too much dog for you.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
You know, Yeah, he can't take that much doll Damn, you.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
Might want to get it me, you know what you
might want. Why don't we go bet that dog. I'll
bet that dog.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
You don't have that much dog?

Speaker 7 (06:34):
No, can we get a rout of applause to Fox?
A lot of you haters out there, A lot of
people out there, the one set up right now, A
lot of people.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
Tell him about it to wanted to bear put dirt
on And you know what, just like just like Boss
Hoggs did, Yeah, not happened happening. This dog is still alive.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
And while.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
One hundred and twenty six million viewers.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Just a couple of people watching me.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
Yeah, how about that record setting?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Here's what I wonder though, when you get to that
one hundred and six twenty six million, right, it's about
household correct.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
So this is why I.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Need some conspiracy theory music please. Oh, as you guys know,
I'm a geek. I like to dive into these things. No,
what if I told you that it just so happened
that January of twenty twenty five, In fact, January twenty
second of twenty twenty five. Nielsen, who essentially handles and

(07:44):
is the most trusted source in TV measurement and ratings
just got accreditation for a new rating system, a new
measurement for a national TV measurement system by the Media
Rating Council, And that is the certifying body that's basically

(08:04):
in charge of being the watchdog for these rating systems.
What would I tell you if that happened just this
January twenty second, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
I would say, is that good? Good timing?

Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's good, great timing. Give them. The Super Bowl just
took place.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
And this new rating system that just got accredited for
Nilsen is called Big Data Plus Panel. Oh, it's a
national TV measurement all right, And what it essentially does
is it takes viewership from forty five million households across
more than seventy five million set top boxes and smart TVs.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Right, So you've got your.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Normal cable subscriptions that are looked at and are monitored.
You have your normal rating for over one hundred thousand
people that they look at for their broadcast data. And
then they've bring in all this streaming now, which the
game was actually broadcasted or excuse.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Me, stream multi free streaming, but it was for.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Free on two b all right, which was one of
Fox's moved in that regard. So when I say, by
the way set top boxes, I'm talking Roku, Comcast, Dish, Visio, Directvy,
all those smart ties and set top boxes.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
And obviously you.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Know everyone's in on this, right Like Amazon wants this
because they want a better way of understanding Thursday Night Football,
what their ratings are, what they're not. Netflix wants this
because both Netflix, which spent one hundred and fifty million
on those Christmas Day games, and Amazon has spent a
lot of money for the Thursday Night package, they need
to know too how they stack up versus these TV networks.

(09:42):
So now Nilsen has come up with a comprehensive way
to measure and essentially create a level playing field for
both TV networks and streamers. So when you hear that
number of one hundred and twenty six million and you
get some side act because you're thinking to yourself, all right,

(10:03):
let's just go back to what took place in that game,
all right, with a twenty four to nothing blowout at
halftime with the Chiefs, who they're there again for the
third time in a row. We have a let's just
call a halftime show that again I don't have an
issue with it. Some people might have not liked it,
some had an issue whatever. And based on some early

(10:24):
reports from the TV side that there was supposedly a
decline after halftime and even going into or even you know,
going at halftime, some early reporting, but none of that,
none of that's talked about now that Nielsen, which they'll
give out their comprehensive like the entire ratings deal how

(10:47):
it all added together later on today.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
But that is what we know so far.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
And again a little bit suspect only because none of
it made a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Like we were there that week, I didn't feel like
there was a lot of.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Buzz from many of the Super Bowls we've been to
and watch the game, being that was a blowout, being
how one sided it was and everything that went along
with it, these numbers are very surprising to me. But
when you look into a deeper and you figure out
this is what essentially Nielsen's done to help not necessarily
inflate ratings, but try to find a way of tapping

(11:22):
in streaming as well.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
That's how we get to where we're at.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, I mean, it's very by the way, that's very
very geekish for real, like straight, gee, here's my.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Here's my suspicion, all right, in a world now where
I think, look, everyone's curious as to like just what's
what's actually going on. It could be government spending all
that crap that's going on right now, or it could
be this where you go, like, whose interest is it.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
To make sure the ratings keep going up?

Speaker 5 (11:53):
It's in the NFL's best interest, of course, it's in
the TV it's in the TV network's best interest, the
streaming partner's best interest, you know who. All that's in
the best interest of advertisers because they buy advertising space
on those So it's in the best interest of all
parties involved.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
And by the way, it's in the best interest of Nielsen.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
What if Nielsen can't come up with a way to
accurately measure this and then provide that to the networks,
to provide it to the NFL, to provide it then
to advertisers who are paying for these spots.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
They'll find someone else to do.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
It, maybe, or maybe it just becomes something where it's
the reality is it's too hard to figure out, and
because it becomes confusing, people are like Oh, maybe there's
other ways we should be.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Spending our money in advertising.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
So again, I'm not trying to get on the conspiracy
theory side of this, but I was very surprised that
this game outrated what was a closer game last year
and a back to back chance everything else that went
along with the Chiefs and Taylor Swift and San Francisco,
which is a big market.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
I just was a little bit surprised market though.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
There is a natural fatigue that's attached to Kansas City,
and to your point, being out there, it did kind
of feel like here we go again, Like when the
Patriots went to the Super Bowl three straight years a
few years back. By the third the numbers got worse
viewership wise as you got to the third year, because
I think it was like what.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
We've seen them before, But there was history.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
On the line.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Yeah, but I still there.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Was history on the line, And but you knew at
halftime that history was happenings.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
But you know what, But to a lot of people,
they would probably argue and say that if there was
anybody that could bring you back from this type of
a deficit, it would be Patrick Mahomes. Like, I'm going
to check it out, you know, like I don't know.
I will say this the reason why I asked earlier,
before your wonderful explanation, totally geeking out on information, which

(13:49):
you are in information geek, I asked, how do they
get the numbers in terms of per house? Cause I
had the entire lmu Voll team at my house watching
the game. Shouts out to Layola Marymont women's volleyball, and
that was you know, there was like at least twenty

(14:12):
people in my house watching the game. Now here's another
interesting tidbit. I don't have any boxes anymore, and I
don't have a dish. I do not have I have neither.
And I was I had, so what do you use?
Uh frontier and and it's it's straight straight uh digital

(14:32):
like it's it's uh, it's all interesting.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
It's all streaming.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I guess it's all streaming, okay, right, But but I
had I had Spectrum streaming on one and I had
uh was it Hulu? I had Hulu streaming on three others.
I had one outside streaming. I had one and like
the little dining area streaming, and I had another one

(14:57):
in like a little living room streaming.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Damn got a lot of options, a lot of TVs.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
But but what I'm saying is is that it was Spectrum,
it was Hulu, So how how would they have rated
my house?

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Right?

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Well, they're still going to measure each one of those
in part because so Spectrum is just that your internet provider, right.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Well, Frontier is my internet provider.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Correct, But like, it's still going to measure each one
of those in your household. So whether you're watching on
Hulu or Spectrum or whatever app but what could be
it could be it could have been too b.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
For example, How does it measure it? Though?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Like, how does like when you come up with the
amount of viewers? Does it just does it?

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Well, it's obviously not watching your room and saying there's
twenty people watching, but it's counting. It's counting the various
like boxes or smart You have smart TVs, So you
wouldn't be able to do that unless you had a
smart TV. So those TVs have the capability to be
able to be measured as far as what you're streaming,
what you're in fact, probably more accurately than even you know,

(15:59):
a broadcast.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
What the hell does that even mean? Like what does
that mean? So are they saying Okay, this is a
probably a single family home, or.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Yeah, they know your demographics like that, they'll they'll understand.
They have a computation for all that, like they know
where you live. Obviously, the surveys sent out. I don't
know if you've ever taken a survey, you actually can
be pred for taking a Nielsen survey.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Like they have.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
I've literally done it. Just I was curious to see
what would happen. They sent back cash. How many dollars
I got? I swear to God, like I've done before.
I'm mailed in a survey for Nielsen and they had
given me back cash, and I was like, this is great.
I want to send me more surveys. I didn't even
take that long. No, no, no, no. It was like

(16:44):
I don't even know if it was five bucks. It
might have been like three bucks, four bucks.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Though I signed out. I signed it out there pretty quickly.
Nobody I thought it was pretty good.

Speaker 7 (16:54):
Yeah, list, I mean for four or five bucks, Yeah,
I'll take a survey.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Well, what was nice about it is you know, you know,
I don't get any gifts anymore.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Or like letters.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Really, you know, everything comes to like email for the
most part. If it's an Amazon box, it surely is
not for me. So it was nice just to open something,
opening something up with my name on it, where like
someone gave me a few bucks.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I was like, oh, this is nice, you know.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
I mean, if you want, Andy Furman sends out mail
all the time. The way people was up in your
face at the bar on Thursday, you could always go
to a start, you know, stripping for dollars.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
You get a whole lot of dollars. Yeah, that's a
great point.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
You could probably hostile about this whole situation. I mean,
it's Tuesday of the following week.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
It's a wonderful point. Damn.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
I'm just saying I thought we really bonded, and I
didn't realize you viewed as a hostile situation. No, I
don't like people taking my shine man, even you like
little Broke. We were bonding. We were talking about again,
tipping the you were bonding a whole what we're talking about,

(17:58):
I mean, yeah, yeah, big tips, big big tip.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
And this will conclude this, uh segment of hanging out
with Brady.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
Huh what that's too bad? Hey, By the way, just
imagine how much better the ratings would have been if
the halftime show didn't suck. Imagine that that'd be sweet?

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Can I ask this were there are more like messages
and undertones besides just the drink stuff.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
You just didn't get it, man, you know what they
were trying to do, Because here's the thing is was
it like I don't know if it is ESPA or something,
And they're like, oh, you people didn't understand. I'm like, well,
then explain it, yes, Like, don't say that you just
don't get it if you can't explain it or you
can't talk about what exactly was in it. By the way,
I thought Larna made the best point yesterday during one
of the breaks when she said there was nothing you

(18:51):
could really like get into, like a Shakira song, you
know those hits. You know, Oh, she's gonna play the
hits here.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Like there's a lot of people who don't know the backstory,
don't know what's going on, they're not familiar with it.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
But you're not on.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
Part of the cool crowd. So you didn't get it.
You do not?

Speaker 7 (19:09):
Okay, Well you got the biggest audience you could possibly have.
I understand why they made the decision to go with
him as their performer. It just I'm sorry it didn't Land.
They could say whatever they want, but it didn't Land.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
I don't know. Some people would disagree with you, but
that's what makes the world go around.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
I mean, I at least know the whole the Drake
situation with Kendrick Lamar So I found that highly entertaining,
especially when he looked at the camera on said the
man's name and smiled.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I was like, oh, wow, this is great because you know,
it's like, if you say my name, I'm going Sue. Right,
if you say my name, I'm going Sue. I'm going Sue.
And he looked at the cameraon and was like Rake.
So I'm waiting to see if he gets sued.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
To be honest, I'm certain he's going to get some
paperwork serve to him, you know, for defaming you know,
one Drake's name. But anyways, I think the ratings are
very interesting, I really do. And I'm just interested in
the fact that how do you how do you measure?

(20:17):
You know, you get to one hundred and twenty six
million people, if you use my household, you might have
had one hundred and twenty six million, and that that
number one, you know what I mean? Like because you
have people in one.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Here's the biggest question that we ask ourselves every single
year around this time.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
That's right, there's three hundred and thirty five million people
in the United States at least that we know of.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
What the hell of the other two million period they're
eating dogs and cats.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
That means that we're yeah, that means that we are
overwhelmed by complete losers that are doing something other than
watching the Super Bowl on a Sunday in February.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
It's a damn shame.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
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Speaker 7 (21:12):
All right, so we got some collateral damage from Super
Bowl fifty nine. We have no idea whether or not
Travis Kelsey's going to retire. I find it hard to believe.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
I'd have got retired in that game.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
I think he's going to be back, That's my guess.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Some bad taste in your mouth, and then like the
visions of him, like you know, the cutaways of him
and the way he looked the b roll that they
were leveraging. He just looked like a dude that was defeated.
Man Like, I don't you know, I wouldn't want to
walk away having been one of the most dominant tight
ends to ever play the game, and that's your last

(21:48):
memory of me. But that would just be my assessment
of that, you know. And I don't think there's any
collateral damage in terms of anything else other than you
just came up short. Because the dude is a winner,
and he's got Super Bowls and he's got and he's
got Taylor Swift at the games.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Oh but that's see, that's where you're wrong.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
There's plenty of collateral damage for this game, but you
have to be able to kind of think outside the box.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Okay, so for example, that the collateral damage is Taylor Swift.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
I mean, it's all fun and games when you went
back to back Super Bowls and you're going for a
three peat and you're arguably the best tight end potentially ever.
But I mean, she doesn't lose, So how is she
going to deal with losing? You know, is she going
to be around quite as much? I Mean, this was
a knock to her record too. I believe there were
ten and zer when she showed up this season, so

(22:39):
she had a great record as well. I mean, we've
never seen this before. How the swift he's going to
handle a Super Bowl defeat and who knows what this
means for her career moving forward and their relationship moving forward.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
All they know is wins. That's all they know.

Speaker 7 (22:55):
Yeah, they went awards, they're showing up that we got
rocket Launcher in the studio, they're showing up supporting their
Kansas City chiefs, and now they've got to deal with
the fact that their guy, Kelsey just got his ass
whooped on national television in front of one hundred and
twenty six million people.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
The next group up, the Dallas Cowboys, collateral damage. I mean, one,
you've got a team that it's won two Super Bowls
in the last what six years or so whatever, it's
been one with a backup, But you have to deal
with that now, the fact that like they're the team
that's all in, they are the team that now potentially
with this roster, maybe they're the ones that could go

(23:37):
on a three p But more so than that, you
moved on from the guy that was their offensive coordinator.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
He was in your house he was.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Your offensive coordinator in Kellen Moore, and you moved off
of him to then let him go win a Super
Bowl with the Eagles, and now he's become the head
coach with the New Orleans Saints. Not to mention that
you know, again we already talked about Dan Quinn earlier
this year. But again another piece of collateral damage, where
like even Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys are sitting

(24:05):
there looking themselves like, dang, we had that guy's r
O C.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Now he's got a Now he's got a ring.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
Did you hear what Jerry Jones said? I think we
might have been Thursday or Friday.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
Then New Orleans Eagles got them some glory hole so
he expected no. That was afterwards he called it a
shocker that the Cowboys weren't this year Super Bowl and
then went on to say, let me get that, Jerry,
we know that.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Uh, but that's like creating. That's rhetoric, like you're creating
all different conversation land.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
He also said this quote, I wouldn't have signed Dak Prescott,
the highest paid player in the NFL if now wasn't
when we wanted to win. This is a shaker to
be here at the super Bowl and not have the
Cowboys here. I didn't plan on that when I made
the agreement with him. So we're going to do everything
we can to get there.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'm just starting to understand him, though. And you know
what the crazy thing is is far away from the
legitimacy of what he said is in terms of him reality.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
He truly believes that.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And if you're and if you're strategic enough, if you're
bold enough to say what you're feeling in the moments
that the microphone and the cameras are in your face
and you for all intensive purposes, he has garnered the
credibility and the belief of a tremendously large and supportive

(25:35):
fan base. For all the people that sit there and
say they they can't stand Jerry Jones and this, that
and the other within that Cowboys community, Jerry Jones is
like something like a.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Lowercase God to those people.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, you thincause they're dormats. Okay, so there's a lot
of scratch with them, doormats. He walking on, he walking
over top of a lot of scratch with them doormats.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
Tell me, if you guys agree, I feel like the
Cowboys are further away from being a legitimate contender this
year than they have been in like five or six.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, easily.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
And I think about your entire coaching staff. Two of
the guys you had on your staff. One goes to
Washington the division, wins to become the head coach and
plays in the NFC Championship Game. The other now goes
wins a Super Bowl ring as an OC win and
he's going to become a head coach for the New
Orleans Saints. And then the other one you had, you
just said to yourselves, we can't come to an agreement,

(26:32):
so we let Mike McCarthy's contract, you know, terminator or expire.
And so now you find yourselves with Brian Schottenheim. I
mean this is not plan A, B C, probably maybe
D somewhere down the line. But again, the Dallas Cowboys,
because of this Philadelphia win, they're receiving a piece of
collateral damage and all this.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
You know who else another NFL team, the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
You literally fired Vic Fangio because he coached the defense too.
Are You had star players like Jalen Ramsey who literally
was quoted as saying they missed used us. Think about
that did they misuse the cornerbacks in Philly? I mean,
I look at the Miami Dolphins, a very talented roster,

(27:19):
and yet they pushed him out of town. Philly couldn't
hire Vic Fangio fast enough. There in lies a super
Bowl ring and one of the better defensive performances we've seen. Again,
talented defense in Philly. You gotta give Vic Fangio some credit,
seal with the way he constructed that plan.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
How damning is that though, when you really think about it,
How damning is that that you have a Super Bowl
winning former offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator that was
one game away from being in that game and they
meet up hit the hit in the NFC Championship. How

(27:58):
at which, by the way, the same flipping division. It's
the same division. You not only let these mother lovers
get away from you, you let them go into the
same division you were in.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Now.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I mean, Kellen is leaving, but a lot of if
we recall, some of the rumway that was allotted to
Mike McCarthy was based off of saying, you know what,
we got to move on from Kellen Moore. I'm going
to take over the play calling duties.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yeah, it was like, oh, so.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Kellen is conveniently getting rolled under the bus for this
scenario of why you came up short this year. Keep
in mind there was a disconnect and it played out
in the media early on between Zimmer and Parsons. What
does that relationship look like? Micah didn't have the type

(28:52):
of season this year that he had under Dan Quinn.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
He got a little derailed after that injury.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Was that a thing?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I mean, he started off hot, but I'm just saying
it wasn't. It just didn't look the same. That defense
didn't look the same under Zimmer. It just didn't.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
And so I just think there's a lot of questions there.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
So when you sit there and say, is it safe
to say they're further away from being a Super Bowl contender?

Speaker 6 (29:21):
I think it all comes back to.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Jerry Jones's ability to sell hope in the offseason, and
what better place to sit there and say what he
said that you quoted at the Super Bowl. You know
how many Dallas cowboy fas is like, damn right, Jerry,
let's get it going.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
Let's get it going, Let's do what we need to do.
And you lean on the fact that, Okay, we did
play pay Dak Prescott. He's gonna come back healthy. We
already took care of c.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
D Lamb.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
He's gonna come back. We're gonna find CD somehow. We're
gonna rebuild. We're gonna find somebody to help Ceedee Lamb.
We're gonna get Mike a side. We're gonna find some
pieces to build on that defense. Saturday Ball. We're going
to be a better team next year. We're going to
do it. They're the least they're.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
The least interesting team in that division.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
That's that's true. So collateral damage lists giants are. We've
got Taylor Swift, We've got the Dallas Cowboys. We've got
the Miami Dolphins now, which are part of that group
because they wanted to move on from Vic Fangio for
coaching them too hard, mis misusing them.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Excuse me. Next up is Giselle punching.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
I mean, if you think about it, if Patrick Mahomes
wins that Super Bowl, all right, Mahomes now has done
a three peat. He's got four super Bowls before he's
really thirty, and he's that much closer to trying to
surpass Tom Brady, and maybe people would make the case
in the short stint, all he's known is the AFC
Championship weekend, and obviously as many Super Bowls he has

(30:52):
been to in Super Bowls he's won in that stint
that you would say, okay, he's in maybe goat status
in the short term, but maybe long term as well.
But now with the Eagles winning, not only is that
in question right where Tom Brady sits atop.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Of the mountain. Still no one's been able to repeat.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
The loss hurts Patrick Mahomes to the point where it
feels like getting past seven might be insurmountable or it
might be tough, depending on Travis Kelce, what he decides
to do in the next year. This year, maybe Andy
Reid at some point he'll probably look to retire. All
those things are still out there, and now not having
that Super Bowl makes it that much harder for you

(31:33):
to then get past Tom Brady. So every single season
now as Fox's number one analyst, you're gonna get the
X up there the goat still broadcasting for Fox. And
then meanwhile, the relationships kind of, you know, do you separate.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
At this point?

Speaker 7 (31:53):
Do you think that just out of spite She watches
the broadcast in Portuguese, like just I can't hear him.
I don't want to. I don't want to hang with it,
Like can you throw somebody else on? Like so like
give me somebody else from you know, from the motherland,
so I can you actually take in this game?

Speaker 6 (32:07):
And I'd have to deal.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
With I feel like the better question is does the
new addition have any interest in American football at all?

Speaker 5 (32:16):
The new addition like the baby are you talking about?
Like the new love interests? Both the new love interest
is in the BJJ in jiu jitsu.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
That's correct, Well, they're probably watching the UFC, you know
the game, you know?

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
I mean the question is do you really believe that
that game was on in Giselle's crib, you know, the
other day?

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
All I know is like he's going to be calling
those NFL games for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
And it's gonna be a reminder all out there who
the role goat is.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
He definitely reminded them.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
And there does feel like we kind of touched on
this a little bit yesterday. It does feel like there's
a significantly different tone about his potential at catching Tom
Brady based on what happened on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
It's weird. I did not think i'd feel that way,
but I feel that way now.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
Like there was something about the jump from three to
four to where it's like, oh, this might actually happen.
And now you're like, I don't know, dude, because I
don't think he's playing that long, Like I don't think
he's coming close to playing as long as Brady's.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
I just think I think the conversation opens up that
and and it's it kind of for my baby that's
going in the draft. It kind of was perfect timing
for for Edges defensive who.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
Ran Williams the Alabama guy. You said your baby the guy?
Oh that's who that is. No, I was talking about
Abdul Carter. Oh. The thing about it is is that, well,
if you'll let me make my point, I'm gonna make
my point. What would the fingernail can't be my baby for?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Like, that's kind of weird, man, Like you made that
awkward like that, I don't I don't you know what.
I'm walking around holding his hand calling my baby, Like
where where you going with that? Where you're trying to go?
I'm talking about the idea of defensing Patrick Mahomes. It's like,
if you can get a good enough defensive front, you

(34:17):
can do the things in coverage that well, you wouldn't
normally be able to do if you don't get pressure
on him with four men at max zero zero blitzes
in the game. And Patrick Mahomes has one of the
lowest outputs of offense in his career, So it's going

(34:42):
to you're now going to go back to placing. If
I was going to look for an offensive lineman or
maybe I felt like this year says Okay, maybe I
need to value a running back a little bit more,
whatever it may be, a receiver, I need another receiver
that top spot. I can guarantee you the top spots
in this year's draft are going to be Edges, an

(35:05):
interior defensive lineman, because what this game represented was a
blueprint as to how you can get on top of
this this Kansas City's Kansas City Chief team, whether you're
in the a f C or the NFC. Because in
NFC they won the NFC and ultimately the Super Bowl. Yeah,

(35:26):
that was that was the point I was trying to
get to and look at a deep.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Defensive tackle class. So I think there will be a
lot of guys who go off the board first round,
first first few rounds, and obviously Abdul Carter is probably
going to go off the board one for a non quarterback.
The only issue with with again defending against Mahomes, I
think Denver is the first team in the division actually
has a pick and they pick at twenty and then

(35:51):
it's it's you know, the Chargers at like twenty two,
and you know, kind of on down the line, you know,
looking through it. Obviously Kansas City in there as well,
but the Raiders or that other team that you'd say, okay,
they've got Max Crosby, maybe they would be a team
that we throw in a consideration, but they're at six, Like,
I'm not sure how do a card.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
That gets there, and plus they need a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
That being said, it does bring up the AFC West
as the other team that it feels like there's a
little collateral damage here because if there was ever a time,
if you think about this where Patrick Mahomes Andy Reid
had a red ass, it was following that loss to
the Tampa Bay Bucks where they come back, they respond,

(36:32):
they're able to you know, come back and rip off
a couple more Super Bowls and kind of reload. And
it's not like this team, as much as we want
to kind of be down on them. Racie Rice will
be back at some point, if Kelsey comes back, if
they have another free agency as well as draft, and
they can you know, solidify that offensive line. This is
a group that very much is going to have a

(36:53):
red ass coming back. They try to win the AFC West,
get a top of the the AFC playoff picture, and
try to get back into that Super Bowl game again.
So collateral damage is kind of like the Las Vegas
Raiders who don't have a roster built there yet, and
the Chargers and Broncos that I mean, they're they're there.
They're not quite as good as the Chiefs, but I
would see say the Chiefs are gonna take it out

(37:14):
on those guys next year with the way they try
to reload and rebound off of just an absolute blow.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Loss.

Speaker 7 (37:21):
Got Jim Harbaugh waiting there as well too, you know,
thinking he was going to get an opportunity, Denver thinking
they were going to take the next step, and now
you got Casey ready to and by the way, one
of their unrestricted free agents, Tray Smith. There was some
speculation that he was going to be like on his
way out after not that he had a great game.

(37:42):
There was one play specifically where got called for a
holding because he got beat so bad by Jalen Carter.
But if you're the Chiefs, do you not look at
what happened in that game and go we need to
do whatever. We keep going heavy as many bro heavy continuities.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Heavy line, you gotta go heavy old line because if
you know that a four man front allows for defenses
to use their coverages in a more effective way against
his which, by the way, I mean when you're throwing
those names that you just throw in through in, it
does make it more difficult to defense this team because

(38:19):
there's gonna be more pass concepts you can use route
wise for Patrick Mahomes. But keep in mind, it was
that taking away the first read from Patrick Mahomes that
bought those pass rushers just a little bit more time
to make him uncomfortable. And if I'm looking at it,
that's going to be my scheme going into this season.

(38:41):
So I'm loading up all right, guys, those teams that
we said are competitive in the West, you got bo
Nicks young talent in Denver. You can load up. Like
if I'm if I'm the Chargers, you can load up.
We got Herbert. But if I am the Kansas City
Chiefs having Patrick Mahomes on my team, I want to

(39:03):
make sure I have a steel wall in front of
my quarterback so that he has time and he has
protection safety. That leads to confidence and him being able
to do what he does best.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
Did they bring I think they was it all five
new starters following the Tampa Bay Super Bowl loss?

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Yeah? Yeah, that next year.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
That's why I said, like, they will rebuild the retool
and they'll have a red ass going into this. By
the way, the Kenis Cley Chiefs have a fifteen point
seven million in salary cap space heading in the next year.
And what's interesting about it is, remember Mahomes signed that
ten year, four and fifty million dollar deal, and this
is what's happened over the life of the deal is
they have been able to obviously restructure that as they

(39:50):
receive bigger you know, cap hits depending on the year.
So for example, you know, Mahomes again takes you to
a Super Bowl, granted you know you to win it,
and he's Super one MVP. You have a little more
leverage your negotiation. But he has seven years left on
this deal. So unless Clark Hunt is gonna be really
cheap about it, if you want to create more cap space,

(40:12):
you're gonna continue to do what they've done. You're gonna
restructure them, You're gona give him a signing bonus. You're
gonna reduce his cap hit, which his base salary for
twenty twenty five is only sixteen point sixty five to zero,
so you can even lessen that number more depending on
what they want to do. So they may depending on
how that again, they look at this, they may not
feel like they need to do much with it. But

(40:32):
you can still figure out a way of pushing those
numbers down the line because you have the best quarterback
on the planet currently in the NFL, so you can
refinance with him and create a little additional cap space.
The problem for Trey Smith is I think he's gonna
warn a contract somewhere around twenty million per year, like
he played well enough, or he's gonna cash in as
one of the top paid interior guards. So I don't

(40:55):
know that they're gonna allocate that much just into one position,
and it'll be interesting to see where they go in
the draft. Obviously that they draft now thirty first with
the Super Bowl being finished, and you could find yourself
with a solid either in tier defensive lineman there. That's
where I think there'll still be value. Obviously as Chris
Jones gets up there in age or offensive lineman like

(41:15):
you're talking about guard tackle something like that. Both those
should be still available at that spot.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
But you know, i'd have.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
To look at the free agency listen to see who's
gonna be out there. It's going to be interesting, it
really will be to see where they go with that pick.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
And this is a team that if you think about.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Any trades that they would potentially make with the start
of the new league year, it's this is a team
that you give away sometimes late first round picks because
is that guy going to be a legitimate, bona fide
starter right now for a team that's in a window
of winning right now. If your answer is maybe not,
depending on how you view those players available, you go

(41:52):
deal that pick and you say, we'd rather go trade
for a guy we know that can come in and
start and play right away, and we can take on
that veteran contract and we can make it work. Within
our salary cap space. Like that's that's how the teams
at this spot, that's how they look at draft picks.
You know, everyone wants to say, oh, we're gonna in
the first round. Well, okay, it may take him some
time to develop. There's no time for that with some

(42:13):
of these teams. They want to win right now. And
if that's the case, you don't mind giving him a
couple first round picks.

Speaker 7 (42:19):
Can I make a prediction here? No, Trey Smith, he'll
be signing with the Bears. Okay, like that because Ryan
Poles was there in Kansas City when they drafted him
and brought him in, and plenty of cap space too,
and they have a big need there. That's something they're
going to address. So Kansas City is going to be
looking for a new starting guard.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
Of all the people I listed the Miami Dolphins, Taylor Swift,
Dallas Zell Bunch of AFC, who's receiving the most collateral damage?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I think it's Taylor Swift. I think it's Taylor Swift
because I don't know. I think I think I will
say this. She can turn her negative into a positive
by creating an album purely based upon the roller coaster
ride of this season and the heartbreak of how the

(43:14):
season ended. It's like a relationship, right It's like a breakup,
a bad breakup at the end of a relationship. If
she turns an album into this journey, I think it
becomes a win. But right now, I don't know why
we can horrible collateral damage here.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
I don't know why we can't just keep it football.
I'm gonna go Giselle. She's gonna have to deal with
Tom Brady for football, and there's not you know, there's
not enough Brazilian jiu jitsu tournaments for her to attend
to try.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
And clearly, well she's gonna be going through some mental
jiujitsu just to be able.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
To get him out of her head.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Clearly, there's enough jiu jitsu going on training wise before
you even get to the jiu jitsu competition. Thus, nine
months later comes to jiu jitsu produce a.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
You gotta watch that anaconda choke. That's a true. It's
called a dars choke. It's an anaconda.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
That's a truth.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (44:09):
That's it? Put that thing to sleep.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
It works.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Get that work.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
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Speaker 7 (44:26):
It is a Tuesday, which means it's smooth operator time.
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in New Orleans Pete on Friday, and we're happy to

(44:47):
have you back.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
What's up, guys? How are you taking back? Okay?

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Hey pe? Yeah? We did? Hey Pete, quick question for you.
When we saw you, did we appear as banged up
to you as we felt?

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Well? Yeah? Actually really you did. Yeah. Particularly LeVar, he
was like half sleep in a couple of different times.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
I thought I could hide it.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Damn it, no need, none of you hit it. Brady
smelled like booze and uh it was fall asleep.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
I showered too, thank you.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
For Joes were too far away for me to actually
get a good read on him. But I'll be honest
with you, the three of you, he looked the most refreshed. O.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Man, you didn't drink as much as we did.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
No, and uh, you know it was uh, it was
a Miller like consumption.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Well, he's got to steer the ship. You two just
like chime in every now and then.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
So it's a little more am I now and then
as every now and then?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
So I was perfect, LeVar, I can tell you that
on Friday year now and then one now and then.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yeah, it was like not at all.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I think I had LB a couple of times a
wake up listen.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I gave them my heads up that I was going
to need assistance that that.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
Just know that, Pete, Pete, what was the let me
ask you, other than the result, which I don't think
a lot of people expected. What was the most surprising
aspect from the game for you on Sunday?

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Happy feet Mahomes. I mean he would say it, you're
going to say it. Hey, Look, he was sped up,
he saw ghosts, he left clean pockets, and he just
didn't look like the same guy at all. And I
know his line isn't great, but there were times you
go back and watch that where he didn't even need

(46:38):
to leave and he left, you know, is it just
everything about it was His feet were bad mechanics were bad. Now,
don't get me wrong, He's never been wonderful when it
comes to the mechanics of playing the position, but I
don't think I've ever seen him like that. That was
worse than Jampa. That's how bad that was. And and
you know, the Eagles rushed for the entire game, didn't

(46:59):
blitz them once, and they had no answer for it.
So that to me was that was the biggest surprise
of the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
Yeah, it's interesting you bring up the Tampa game because
that was another one that was a blowout, and we
knew the offensive line is she's going into it. He
was banged up going into it, and so the pressure
that they were able to get it was expected. Now,
we thought there were some mismatches, but even with the
offensive line the way they've kind of played musical chairs,
there were lines actually played al right this season. And

(47:27):
it was odd to me watching him because yes, they
got some pressure on him, but again I thought I
thought he held onto the football more than he had
the entire season. They wanted the fastest get the ball
out of his hand for whatever reason. I mean, they
didn't throw many screens, Like what do you think of
Andy Reid and just a game planning of the offensive staff.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
It wasn't very good either. They didn't run the ball.
I mean, you know, you got at least attempt to
run the ball in the backs. And you're right, they
didn't use the screen game at all. I thought they'd
get worthy on some quick stuff and they didn't do that.
And look, I haven't watched the twenty two tape. We were,
you know, high above and you could see there were
a lot of times when guys weren't open. I mean,
you know, Kelsey is a clunker. I mean, he can't run,

(48:10):
Hopkins can't run. But I thought that for the most part,
the Eagles did a good job in coverage, but when
there were opportunities, he didn't pull the trigger. He was hesitant.
But to go back to your question, Brady, I didn't
think the game plan was very good, which is surprised
and considering you know, Andy reidsan so good at it
in the course of his career, particularly with the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Pete when out my takeaway from the game, and you know,
we debated it a little bit yesterday, but I just
felt as though Spaggs was committed to stopping the run
and if we were going to lose the game, We're
going to lose with Jalen Hurts throwing the ball and
it not being the running game. And they went all
the way into the end of the game that they

(48:53):
were not going to allow Sakwon Barkley to have any
explosive plays. Do you feel like they played it the
right way and how they went about trying to to
you know, game plan and defense. You know that that
Eagles offense absolutely and.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
When we talked about that last week on Friday, I
said that that he's going to do something or anything
he can to take away Barkley, and they took away Barkley.
The problem is it got away from them. I mean,
you know, with the offense doing nothing and you had
to pick six and then all of a sudden your
defense starts bleeding a little bit. It got away from them.
So I thought the plan was good. You know, the

(49:31):
defense wasn't horrible, and Hurts played well. Don't get me wrong,
he did some really good things. But but the plan
was good. If you went into that game and you
said you're going to keep Barkley under three yards to carry,
you would have done cartwheels and and so the plan
on the defensive side was actually pretty good. You know,
Hurts made a couple of throws, but the offense was
the problem that you get. You get one first down

(49:52):
in the first half, you're asked, and you give up
a pick six, I mean that and the point plank,
you know, interception right there the ten yard line. You're
asking for it. So I think the defense did a
nice job. I don't. I don't think they were the issue.
I think the issue was the offense.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
So you fall on Brady's side. That's interesting, you guys
think of like I think most people, you know what,
I thought their defense. I thought their their defense was
an issue just as bad, just as much as their offense. Well,
I think it's interesting that they get a pass on
this because I didn't think that they were that good
at all. I thought that there should have been adjustments.

(50:26):
Once you realized that you couldn't cover the man the man,
you couldn't cover man the man. I would actually been
I would have been willing to figure out if if
we can stop Saquan with more pass coverage, and they.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Held him at three of twelve on third down.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, I get that, but but you gave up big
plays in the passing game, big plays.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
But one of those big plays was when it was
twenty seven to I mean, you know, by the.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
Way, I don't care what the score was ended up
with more passing yards, doesn't matter his passing yards. His
yards were more Jalen Hurts, his yards were more impactful
on the game. Then then Patrick Mahomes's I could care
less if he had a better stat line than Jalen Hurts.
Jalen Hurts more than.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
A better stat line. But you're making the claim that
there was these you know.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
Odd defense, right, the defense gave up explosive.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Plays, long touchdown pass Devonte Smith came and it was
twenty seven when when granted was a.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
Great, well what about well use the dots in big play,
don't use don't use the late one, used the us
the early one. What was going on with their defense?

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Then yeah, he got that was it was a explosive play.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yeah, well they didn't have a fact like.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
These cats was like lights out.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Defense against them by cooking explosive play too.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
And that that was a turnover.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
That I that was a turnover.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
I mean that had nothing to do with their offense.
That that had everything to.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Do with let's move on the bar we got. We
had more questions.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
I mean, okay, I mean, yeah, geez, your ass your
own self, so well, I'm standing on it. How about
that pure defense was all right? Could have did better?

Speaker 6 (52:05):
Pete? Speaking of could have done better?

Speaker 7 (52:07):
What could New Orleans have done better to put on
a better I guess representation.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
For the Super Bowl?

Speaker 7 (52:14):
Were you happy with everything or do you feel like,
following your experiences there, maybe they could have done a
little bit more or improved in some other areas.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
I think it's a great place for Super Bowl. Everybody
can walk everywhere. It's easy. I mean, you know, that's
the easiest thing about it. Look, they one thing they did.
They renovated the stadium. They put a lot of money
in the stadium. They didn't renovate the press box. I
could tell you that it's like squeezing in is way
high up. And you know, again, nobody cares about us.

(52:44):
But I'm just saying that. I thought, for the most part,
it was a good week. You know, I like it
when it's all right there. And so next year, where
do you got to go? San Francisco? It's not right there.
The stadiums went fifty minutes away, and you know, and
you got spread out all over the place, and then La,
it's all spread out all over the place in two years.

(53:05):
I like when it's all right walkable. And that's why
to me, New Orleans, Vegas, Indianapolis, even though it's cold,
those cities do a great job because everything is walkable.
And so when you look at the cities where you
got to get in cars and get in buses and
do all that stuff, that's no fun. We want to
do that.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
Sounds really excited for next year.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
What did you say?

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Sounds like you're really excited for next year?

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Then, well, I can tell you last time we were in
San Francisco was it was awful. I mean, you know,
walking around the city and everything else is just it's
not it's spread out and you know, you got to
get in the bus and go to the game. I
don't know, it's just that one's not. That one's not.
I can't figure out why they're going back there, to
be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Yeah, it doesn't make much sense.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
I do want to ask you, Pete, because I assume
you had an opportunity to watch the halftime show, and
I'm just kind of curious to get outside the box.
Question to you about that, what were your thoughts on it?
Did you enjoy it? Were you up in the press
box for it?

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Did you get down? I know you're down on the
field after the game.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
No, I was in the press box, And look, do
I know Kendrick Lamar's music? Some of it? Maybe? But
did I enjoy the show? It was okay, it's not
going to rattle my cage. Look, I've many a time
as I've gone up and sat in the back and
well even watched the halftime show. I mean the Rolling

(54:28):
Stones when they played the halftime show, they were broken
down old man, and it was terrible. I mean, you know,
there's been good ones, but one, the one that always
stands out to me is when you two was in
the in the Super Doome after nine to eleven. That
one was the Remember they put the names of all
the victims in the back. That was that was an
unreal performance. But to answer your question about Kendrick Lamar,

(54:49):
I think it's kind of funny the dishes within it.
I mean, I think he got creative with that. But
you know, because I'm always I'm always up for, you know,
going back at somebody that's fine to me, but I
didn't was it was it my favorite?

Speaker 4 (55:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
To answer your question, now.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Does it does this game?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
What what conclusion do you come to with Kansas City
coming out of this game? Can they get back? Can
they can they win more? Did this signify maybe a
change or shift the difference? What was your takeaway?

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Well, they better get better on the on the offensive
and defensive lines. If that wasn't the message sent by
the Philadelphia Eagles to the rest of the league, and
then I don't know what it is. And we talked
about it the other day. There are only so many
big people on the planet who can play the game
and rush the passer and block the for the quarterback.
And if you don't have them, you better get them

(55:44):
because if you don't, it's going to show up. And
I think you know, they kind of hid their flaws
all year long, and the Eagles they went when you
can rush, you go back in history. You look at
the teams that have beat the good offenses with the
good defenses. You can rush with four guys, you're going
to win. Seattle did it to, then the Giants did
it to New England when they were the great offense

(56:05):
with four guys. You can rush with four guys. That
makes it so much easier on what you can do
on the back end, and quarterbacks will struggle with it.
And that's what we saw. So, uh, get big, get stronger,
get faster with your pass rushers, and you will win games.
And that's what we saw with the Philadelphi Eagles. Big
bullies and they always win. And we saw that.

Speaker 7 (56:25):
Uh pete favorite storyline this offseason in the NFL to
track will be.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
What where does I'm curious to see where Sam Darnold
goes and what he gets I.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Mean over over Rogers.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
I don't what is he even going to play?

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I mean, there's betting gods out there you can bet
on where he ends up. You think he plays ends
up in Pittsburgh? You like that?

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Well, okay, let's just preface this by saying, no one's
saying that. We're saying the odds are right now, Pittsburgh's
the betting favor for that's where he'd land.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Do you like that?

Speaker 3 (57:01):
I don't. I can't imagine Aaron Rodgers playing in Pittsburgh.
I just doesn't see that doesn't seem that doesn't look
right to me. I think Donald's gonna end up. Donald's
gonna end up with the Raiders, right, They're gonna have
They're gonna go pay him. But would you that's the question,
the great question.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Russ doesn't end up with with the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Russ can't play at all anymore.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Thus, back to my original point, why did he end
up in Pittsburgh?

Speaker 3 (57:29):
You know it is well, but he had one year deal.
I means a one year deal, looks the deal. And
they benchfield and put him in there, and he threw
a couple moon balls. He threw a couple of moon
balls and Tickets made him look good. And then when
Pickens was hurt and Pickets was moping around and he
didn't look good. I mean, it's quite evil, all right,
you figure out.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
It's kind of high Pete.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
I mean, who else really stands out as the go
to guy on the ror move?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
But nobody had to go to guy in the Russ
But the guy doesn't thrown in the middle of the field. Sorry, Brady,
I'm sorry. I know you had a training camp with
Russell rip On.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
He played well. They made the playoffs, Like what are
we talking about?

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Not play well?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
So who would you have rather seen? The quarterbacks? They
had the last few years.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
No, no, obviously not. He did not play well. Just
sit there and say that he played well. It was ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Give me he did play well.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
He played in the playoffs, he didn't play well. Brady,
he didn't play well. And by the way, Sam Donald's
gonna get forty million dollars. Would you paying forty million dollars?

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Sam Donald's yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
The way the season ended to kind of sour things.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
Honestly, A Pete, if you had to pick one of
these three quarterbacks next year to be your starter, who
is it Rogers, Kirk Cousins, or Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
I would take I would take Rogers. I would take Rogers.
Rogers played better. Rogers played better than all of them
down the stretch. He was down to stretch. When Rogers
was healthy, he actually played pretty good football for the Jets.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Pete hates Wilson and Cousins. He's he's been reluctant to
ever give them compliments.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
And it's only because.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
I give him compliments and then they ultimately turn in
who they are, which is just you know, average guys.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
They're good.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Russell Wilson played Russell Wilson played with the lower the
best scoring defense in the history of the league, I
mean four straight years, right, Look, they were the scoring
leaders in defense four straight years. The only other team
that did that was the fifties Dynasty Browns. That makes
it a lot easier on the quarterback. So look, they're okay,
none of them right now are very good. But I

(59:32):
probably leaned to Rogers. I thought at the end of
the year he showed a little something if he plays.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
Here's what I love about Pete. Is I love you saying?
Are you talking about the Seattle Seahawks group. Yeah, Okay,
that wasn't the case for Pittsburgh this year, and there
were top ten scoring dec It was very.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Good on defense. But by the way, if you look
at the quarterback Grant landscape, right, take those guys Arnold,
throw them in there as well, and then you got
the draft, and those guys have everybody in this draft
has tons of major correct There's no guys at the
top like there was last year where you're sitting there
going wow, wow wow, And so where do you find
the damn quarterback? If you don't have one, that's the problem.

(01:00:11):
And if you keep trying to piece it together. It
isn't working. It's not going to work. So that's like,
if you're the Giants and the Jets, what are you doing?
What do you what do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Well, I mean the Jets are letting Rogers go. What
is your answer? It's like Tyrod Taylor. I mean they're
not gonna They're not gonna be the position probably the
draft one of these guys. What do you do? Well?

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
I know we do.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
We Thank you for being a part of the show
again as always, Pete.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
Every Tuesday, you can expect, even in the off season,
fiery takes and somebody willing to speak their mind on
all the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
You sound a little tired today, Pete, You no, not
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I got my, I got my I'm working on my
top one hundred free agents for tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
Ready for.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
We're going to leave out this year. It's to be controversial.

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
And that by yeah and that ten at Prisco CBS.
Pete will be looking forward to it. Thanks as always,
Let's do it again next week.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
All right, guys, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
It is a great Pete Prisco with us here on
Fox Sports Radio.