February 12, 2025 • 53 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Kellen Moore takes the opening in New Orleans but what does that mean for Derek Carr? Who is the biggest beneficiary from the Eagles win over the Chiefs? And The Old P, Petros Papadakis talked New Orleans, Lakers Trade and surfer gangs.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is the best of two pros and a coupled
Joe with Lamar Aarings and rating Winn and Jonas Knox
on Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The studios fall apart.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It appears we've got chairs that are breaking left and right.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I mean, is it falling apart or torn up?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I don't know what we came back to after New Orleans,
but it feels like a lot of damage done here
in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't know. I just I can't imagine what some
of these people's homes look like. Man, that's all I'm
gonna say. It's all i'm gonna say. Okay, so a
Q That's all I'm gonna say. Bro Okay. Yeah. I mean,
I know how I treat the studio when I come
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in here. You know, I have something, I use it.
If it's rubbish, you throw it away. If it's a
piece of fir furniture, you treat it with care because
you know, well other people are using it and you
didn't buy it, so you know, don't just do any
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old thing to it, you know, and listen. I get it,
the wear and tear of multiple bodies touching you know,
the stuff and everything that's going on. But you know,
it just seems as though that song that Jonas has
us coming into it just seems as though something, something
or someone comes through this studio and that's that's the
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theme song going on in their head while they're in
this room.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, Shock by Fear Factory. They are, you know, not familiar.
It's a big one.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, I know, you know, well not to mention, you know,
like things are sitting everywhere and you know, no real uh,
I don't know, I don't know. Order no, you know what.
There you go. I'm gonna leave it at that. I'm
stout there. Yeah, it does look like the sun truck
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in their a little bit. Stop that you bring that up? Hey,
how you doing, buddy, Yes, that's what doing good. Doing good.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Just try to fend off every possible illness that's going
around right now. It will it hit finally both my sons,
which obviously the infant is a bit of a concern.
So yesterday was a more stressful day than it needed
to be. But all is well on the home front,
at least in that regard. We'll see how how everyone
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wakes up this morning. But yeah, actually a big, big
shout out to my youngest daughter Cassidy. It's her fifth
birthday today. Happy birthday, sassity. That's all right. Now what
are the big plans are you?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Guys? I'm glad you asked Jonas. You know where she's
gonna have her birthday party?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Where's that at?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We had a drum roll?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Please?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Is there drum rolls? Just too early for y ray
and find a drum bears anyone, anyone that's in the studio.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Chuck Cheese.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
They still have those, they do it. In fact, they've
they've revamped them. They don't look like they like.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
They don't have that like ball pit where eight kids
would puke and someone like Jonas would turn and be like,
I encleaning that up. Yeah, damn, it's it's different. Now
it's clean, it's nice. I think they still serve beer
and the pizza's not bad. Yea still serve beers. Pizza
was always a thing at Chuck E Cheese. I will
say that, by the way, Underrated Wings really never had wings.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Didn't know they had wings.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, Underrated Wings salad as decent. They got beer and wine,
and yeah, they got rid of a lot of them,
got rid of like most of the animated characters and
all that. I think they've tried to sort of veer
into the more Dave and Busters type feel towards, you know,
just games and fun. The ballpits are gone, though, and
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I wonder if COVID had anything to do with that,
because those things are filthy.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Maybe it's just work. They were filthy and it was
just time to move on from those things, you know,
just maybe a thought, Yeah, maybe a thought. But good Cassidy,
enjoy chuck e cheese. You know they changed the rat too, right.
The rat isn't the same rat anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, don't.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I mean it doesn't look like jonas like a mouse now, yeah,
because it was a rat. It's very malnourished. He looks,
which doesn't make sense because their food. He's on that diet,
and it might be it. Yeah, the people Jonahs knocked
that Jahs knocked, not mine, you're the Jonahs knocks that.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I barely eat any food. Well surely surely not eating
the diet that U we saw New Orleans. I mean
that is just that's that's quite quite some diet down there.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, it definitely is. And uh, there's plenty more where
that came from. You see, it's Kellen Moore. What a stunner,
What an absolute stunner. Kellen Moore is the brand new
head coach of the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
He will take over and try and figure out in
what appears to be a division that seemingly is up
for grabs every single year. I don't know what the expectation.
At one point, when New Orleans started two and o
last year and they wiped out Dallas and you know,
Derek Carr is doing the Michael Jackson crotch grab in
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the end zone after a touchdown, It's like, man, the
Saints are finally playing true to form. And the next
thing you know, a couple of months later, Dennis Allen
gets fired. Darren Rizzy's assaulting his punter and we're just
trying to figure out how we can get to the
end of the year. Now the Saints have their guy.
Kellen Moore takes over and he's been kind of the
The expectation is he was a head coach in waiting
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or a guy that was project did to be a
head coach. Some thought it would be in Dallas, but
he ends up getting the Saints out there. So congratulations Kellen.
N nice few days for you worst kept secret in
the NFL over the past several weeks. So there's that
how do we feel about the Saints upon the hiring
of Kellen Moore?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Because I'm not sure that's going to make much of
a difference, to be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Well, it's interesting because typically you go with an offensive
mine like this, when you've got a quarterback or a
young quarterback, you're trying to pair them together. So I'm
curious to what exactly this means for Derek Carr, you know,
what exactly this means for how they feel about him,
because you would think that they're saying, we feel like
we can get more out of Derek Carr has been
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there two years now, he's like fourteen and thirteen I
think as a starter, is throwing forty touchdowns the thirteen interceptions,
and has passed for a little over two hundred and
twenty yards per game.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And so there's a thought that, you know, is is
that what this is about?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Or is it just they feel like this is the
best person to lead this locker room or this next
great young offensive mine to be able to whether it's
Derek Carr or someone else. Because the thing about Derek
Carr is they have to make a decision by March
fifteenth of this year. That date's significant because he's got
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his base salary that will be fully guaranteed of thirty
million dollars for this upcoming season if he's still on
the roster at that point. So I think we all
know what's gonna happen once they hit that date. If
he's still on the roster, he's the starter for this year.
If he's not, it's obviously not the case. But I'm
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more curious as to the decision from ownership to hire
Kellen Moore. Was that factored in the opinion that Kellen
Moore has of Derek Carr, or did Derek Carr or
excuse m Kellen Moore take the job because Derek Carr
because he feels like he's got a guy who can
maybe get him through the next year or two. As again,
he's got two years left on his deal. You know,
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this team isn't that far removed from being a pretty
good team. So I think you got to take into consideration,
obviously what you have at the quarterback position, what you
will do with Car that's one hundred a part of it,
and I think you got to take a good look
at what the rest of your personnel looks like. And
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I'm sure he's already started to do so, and he'll
he'll probably continue to look at it more. But it's
it's almost, you know, it's almost like a you gotta
look at it as if you're.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Moving into a new place to live. What what what
should stay? What should go? And I think that's going
to be the biggest challenge for him coming into it.
And I think the reason why would be the biggest
challenge is is because this has been largely a part
of roster that has been pretty competitive. You know, I
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think two out of the last what four years or
so they had finished third or fourth, but in other
times they finished second. And and you know, I guess
not not too bad, not too far out. They haven't
won it, but they're not that far away from being
more I guess competitive in in the NFC South. So
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you know, it's it's interesting because I look at Tampa
Bay obviously, I think that that is the team to
beat right now in the South. Atlanta could be better,
but you know, we'll see what Pennix does and what
Raheem Morris does, and and and this next season. It's
a it's a division where you can actually to me,
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I think you should take the time to figure out
what is the personality of your team, Who are the
personnel on your on your team that pushes this team
forward with you as a coach, and what needs to
go I think if if he does a good job
of that in year one, if he does a good
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job of that in year one and doesn't lose his job,
like doesn't you know, if ownership gives them an opportunity
to get in there, see what needs to be done,
get through year one, and then continue to build from there.
Keller Moore seems to be a really, really fine play caller,
give him some time. I don't know who his staff
is going to be on defense, but defensively, they've always
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been a pretty Yeah, they've been pretty solid on defense.
They're not too far off on defense. I think some
of the things that they need to correct on offense.
If he has a little bit of time and I
think it'll be all right. But we'll see. I mean,
it's not the worst division to go into and have
to do a rebuild, but will he have the opportunity
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to do so.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know, sometimes Aaron Rodgers gets the blame or like
the Steelers and Tomlin will get the accusation that, well,
you're just living off that one super Bowl and that
was a long time ago. I kind of feel like
the Saints are the same thing, Like what have they
really done since that Super Bowl? Like they've had you know,
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like a couple of chunk years, like in you know,
twenty seventeen to twenty twenty where they were, you know,
really competitive. Obviously the NFC title game lost to the Rams,
everybody still goes back to because of the awful call,
but there's been a lot of five hundred or right
below five hundred mediocre years mixed in. And I don't
know why I fall victim to the thought that, oh,
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it's still the same competitive Saints that are going to be,
you know, in the mix. And they've had a lot
of talent there, They've had really talented players, but it's
really been kind of stuck in the mud for the
past several years, especially with Drew Brees walking away when
he did. They lost that playoff game, and they've been
nowhere close to what anybody thought they were going to
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be and the expectations for them. They were the favorite
to win that division, either this past year or the year.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Before, and now I had them winning it this year
like it just it.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Feels like it's they're they're kind of a tease and
and it goes back to that one year they won
a Super Bowl. But other than that, there's not a
whole lot for it. So I don't know, that's my thought.
And by the way, I don't know the last time
I've been to an airport where you can't find one
single item of the local team walking around the airport,
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not a single Saints item up for sale.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Just sold out, Jonas, That's why?
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just sold out?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, I don't blame him after a year like this,
I'd want mercer that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
That diehard of fans man. I don't think you need
to hold it against them. Yeah, I don't. I wasn't
even looking. No, no, no, wasn't even looking. Wasn't wasn't
even in my thought process. Hammer, Is there a reason
why you wanted to do that? Jonas?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Are you trying to get your son something and then
potentially put him in you know, the the conflict of
having to you know, have him be confused and think, oh,
it's his dad's team.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
He oh god, yeah, yeah, no, definitely not. The reality
is Bree who was helping us out on Friday. She's
a diehard Saints fan. So you were for something for yeah,
and she was she was helping. I was like, oh,
maybe if I see something, I told her, Yeah, if
I see something, I'll grab you. And then I looked
around the airport. I realized, oh, there's nothing here, nothing
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at all, Like they don't have anything of Saints merch anywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So but if you were really thinking about her in
that way, you would have gotten one before you got
to the airport. You were trying to be a nice
person out of convenience versus just being a nice person
about getting her.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Okay, that's correact. That's what airports are, honest, that's what
airport gifts are.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
That's very true. You're on your way out, like God,
let me grab something that's true.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Let me give you guys a little foreshadowing of things
that come, because I think we look at this, this
window of time now for the Philly, for Philadelphia and
the Eagles, and we go, yeah, they're you know, they've
got this run. Now, we've got this nucleus this roster.
You know, yes, there are guys like Zach Bond, Josh
Sweat who they're gonna have to figure out who had
great seasons if they even can can sign them back.
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If not, they have to fill that void. But one
of the things that Jalen Hurt says in his contract
and multiple other players, and one of the reasons why
Howie Rosen has been able to construct the rust the
way he did was voidable years in the back end
of the deal. So the cap space for the Eagles,
it's fine for twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, but
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in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, twenty nine thirty,
Like that's when right now the Saints are number two,
is for least amount of salary cap space, and then
they have the least amount or the highest cap. Everyone
to look at it in twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine,
twenty twenty thirty.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Excuse me, So think about that for a second.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
And the reason why I bring that up is because
as we look at the Saints, we kind of talked
about them being in purgatory, like this is a team
that you're not really sure you know what to expect
from them.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know, LaVar, you mentioned they have some good defensive pieces.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I think offensively they say have some offensive pieces, but
they're nowhere in contention.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Like they were probably would say a few years ago.
Drew Brees and Sean Payton. I think it's fair to
say absolutely.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The problem is the Saints did the exact same thing,
exact same thing that the Eagles and Howie Roseman have
been doing when they were in that window with Breese
and Peyton trying to win a Super Bowl. So, for example,
Marshawn Lattimore for this upcoming season, he's got a dead
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cap hit of almost thirty two million, and he that
you guys in there. That and Michael Thomas he's got
a dead cap hit of over nine million. Jameis Winston
he's got a dead cap hit of over seven million.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Not even there.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I mean, Drew Brees was carrying dead cap hits in
previous years for like three years running. I'm trying to
go back and look through to see you when the
last time breeze on the cap table. But there's been
a number of players who hadn't been there, and they've
been on a dead cap and that's unfortunately what happens
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is as eventually you got to pay that bill. You know,
eventually the bell tolls and you've got to go, you know,
pay whatever that number is. So if you're you're you're
an Eagles fan, the super Bowl is great. Congratulations. You've
got a window now in the next two years where
you can keep this whole thing together. And if you're
hitting the draft or you're hitting some free agents, guys
who can step up and step.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
In and play well like you can repeat.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
But after that, it's gonna take a magician, and you've
got that magician, Howie Roseman, to be able to potentially
get you out of some of that cap hell you'll
be in.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
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Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's a hell of a dog.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
By the way, LeVar is watching the Westminster Dog Show
on FS one and it is and just came on
that might be a mass, but they had I was
watching that massive is called beast.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Look at him. It's a good looking dude. Big Boy too.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I would have worn his ass out, but he's dead,
so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
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Speaker 2 (17:33):
The outfits so hideous at the dog show though, damn
bad outfits yoga. They should have matched their dog to
be honest, like some do. They should. I just think
that their their outfits are wild cheese. They could do better. Yeah,
they should do better. Yeah, Okay, some of those dogs
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look terrible. I know that that dog it won't be there.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So the super Bowl is over, the NFL season's over,
and there are some people that are benefiting still from
what happened in the Super Bowl. We talked about the
collateral damage that took place yesterday and just how you
know a bunch of different people were impacted, whether it's
different divisions, different organizations who had coaches and decided to
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move on from them. Shout out the Dallas Cowboys. But
when it talking about the situation and the Eagles winning
the Super Bowl, who's benefited the most from it, and
we could run the gamut from just the organization to
the city to the food items. I'll say this now
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that I've had a po boy, you can go ahead
and be dismissed from the conversation. The cheese steak significantly better,
significantly than that rubbish that New Orleans rolled out. As
far as a poet.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Can we get some female by the way, for this,
we kind of lacked that a little bit yesterday. I
think it got lost in the discussion of the collateral damage.
Now that we've got the biggest beneficiaries.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
What's the good theme music for Philadelphia?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Rocky has to be a rocky Yeah, I would say
rocky theme song with that pressure on you type quick
then quick?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Do you want going the disk?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No? Oh no, no, just.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Just play it?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You play it? Oh no oh wow, there you go.
All right, Well, we'll just get right into it.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
There you.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
We could name Jalen Hurts. I think that's obvious. Nick Sirianni,
that's obvious, all right. But to me, the guy who's
making a case for the Hall of Fame is Howie Roseman,
the general manager. And for this reason he's now been
the architect of two separate Super Bowl wins, been to
a third, and there's seventeen general managers are front office
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types from my count that are in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame. This puts him amongst that group of
those that have impacted teams in that way with the
roster construction.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So he's one of with two different head coaches. I
think he's one of the biggest beneficiaries.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
In my eyes, for at least looking at that saying
all right, he's going to be the guy that I
think ends up going into it after it's all said out,
especially if they win another one. The next group the dudes,
the guys, the Bradley Cooper's, the Miles Tellers, the Shane Gillises.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
The sly Stallone.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
It feels like, if you're comparing the two fan bases
between Kansas City and Philadelphia, it was a bunch of
just guys being dudes. Maybe some celebrities, but just guys
who like Philly all right, and then Kansas City at
Taylor swift And don't get me wrong, you know Rob
Wriggles in there. You got some other you know, famous
people who are part of that too, But the Swifties
kind of took it all over, you know, and for
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Philly fans, like, you know, they've been through some downtimes,
but they're true fans. So I would say that group,
the guys, the dudes over the Swifties also went out
in a big, big way. Also goes far as in
the Washington Commandos. They're a big beneficiary of us for
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in one point. In one way, yes, they got blown
out in the NFC Championship game, but so did Kansas City,
and so maybe Washington is not as far off for
being a team that could potentially compete with the likes
of a team in Kansas City. And I think when
you go back and look at that game, you're like, hey,
they're just getting started, Dan Quinn, Jaydon Daniels, that whole group.
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Another offseason, we'll see what they're capable of. But I
think the Washington Commandos were washing thinking we could have
done better than this. Now that the NFC Championship game was,
you know, not competitive, but it really was a super
for that matter.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Next up is cheese steaks.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Cheese steaks over barbecue, all right, Adam, doesn't matter if
it's Jim's West or Barry Steaks, Gino's you know, Angelo's Philips, whoever,
whoever you want to points to you wherever your favorite
chief steak comes from there in Philly. All right, that
was on the line, whether we realize that or not.
All right, So it could be Arthur Bryant's Oklahoma, Joe's
Jack Statt whatever. They took the l to the Philly
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cheese steak in this matchup as well. So those are
the biggest beneficiaries in my mind as compared to what
we saw yesterday with the collateral damage.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's fair. Interesting, Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
The Howie Roseman discussion and the fact that he also
you know, is doing this, and not only the Tom
Brady era, but the Patrick Mahomes era, I think also
speaks volumes about just what he's built with the backup
with you know, quarterbacks that weren't first round draft picks
and being able to do that and also how many
times you see an NFL team. And by the way,
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Carson Wentz also rough chapter at his his history.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
With the Eagles. What took place there doesn't fit the narrative.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Here, Yeah, but I'm saying he doesn't. He didn't get
any burn time like you wouldn't at least like, give
him an opportunity. Now we're straight away from okay, but
but no. But the point is he didn't get any
burn time. Kenny Pickett did. And so I look at that,
and I go, Howie Roseman sitting there looking across the
field at a guy who can't get on the field
and is thinking, you know, yeah, we walked away from him.
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Like how many times do teams whiff on or make
a mistake or go through an injury with their highly
drafted quarterback they gave a franchise deal to and still
win a Super Bowl with a backup, and then win
a Super Bowl after a coaching change with a guy
who was also the backup to that quarterback once he
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got back healthy. It's pretty amazing what they've done with
their lack of franchise first round draft picked quarterback, which
is sort of the discussion and in the narrative that
most people have when you can't win a Super Bowl
unless you've got one.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Of those guys. I'm gonna bring it back to the
quarterback that won the Super Bowl and got the MVP Award.
It's interesting beneficiaries. I look at Jalen Hurts as he's
now a beneficiary of possibly being slated as the the
arch nemesis of Patrick Mahomes. Like if you think about it,
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they're one and one. Now if this this Eagles team
and he's outplayed them in both and and so if
if you're thinking, okay, you know, who's who's the who's
the Peyton Manning to Tom Brady or to Tom Brady
to Peyton Manning, like this could be the start of
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at some point when we really get an opportunity to
look back on how things have really gone between these
two quarterbacks. Jalen Hurts could possibly find himself being the
beneficiary of being a contemporary and a comparison of who's
you know, like, Okay, he doesn't have as many super Bowls,
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but they're just getting going, you know. And in some
regards like Jalen Hurts isn't isn't old, you know, he's
at he's at the younger party. He's like at the
what like I wouldn't say middle stage of his career.
He's like maybe in the second quarter of his career.
So it hurts Hurts. I think he's was he twenty six,
twenty seven? I don't think he's good what he's like
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at six seven years in now six six years. I
don't think he's not old. He's not old, dude. Yeah,
I think he's actually more the younger. Yeah he's young.
He's young. Yeah. So I'm just saying I think that
the beneficiary in terms of for for like who comes
away with maybe possibly like how he definitely gets a
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lot of credit for this, But I also look at
it like, Okay, you weren't willing to commit all the
way to Jalen Hurts at one point, and that's probably
why Doug Peterson ended up losing his job. Was just
kind of the indecision of what you're going to do
with our draft pick. He ends up losing his job.
You end up, like Nick Sirianni is, probably he's the
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beness benefit. He's a big benefactor off of this as well,
because he did come in and believe in Jalen Hurts
to the degree and the capacity that he did, and
all it's done is yield victories for for Nick Sirianni,
And so to me, I think there's going to be
the conversation that Jalen Hurts has to be at some
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point considered a rival and to Patrick Mahomes and the
Patrick Mahomes era. That's a tremendous that's a tremendous benefit
to be in that conversation because of how elite Patrick
Mahomes has been.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Well, he's now just the third quarterback to beat him
in the playoffs. Brady Burrow, Jalen Hurts, Hey, and take
it to another's never done it, Lamar has never done it.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Take it to another level. Let's throw Nick Sirianni and
let's see how long, how much longer you know, coach
Reid stays around? But I mean, is he the arch
nemesis to Andy Reid? You know, does Nick Sirianni build
up some real clout off of being the guy who
was able to take down and slay Andy Reid? And
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this daunted you know, Kansas City, Kansas City team.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You know, it's creative at Philadelphia, though, you can never
get comfortable if you're at the Eagles because there's a
lot of people saying the same thing about Nick Foles
and deug Peterson.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
And it was like an hour and a half later
they were gone, Yeah, but this is their second time though,
I know, and this is your time. So now they
don't have to just meet in the Super Bowl. This
now becomes a big game if they're on each other's schedule,
Like anytime these guys go against each other, it's going
to be looked at as this is a big time
game because of what has been created with them matching
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up in this super Bowl. That's a bit and the
NFL benefits from that. There have been a factor from that,
because you can hype that if I'm the NFL and
I'm the schedule makers, I'm one hundred trying to make
sure that the Eagles and the Chiefs play during a
regular seas though, there you go, that's a good one, right,
that's a good one. I mean the hurts here, anything's obvious.
I think we all know.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
I mean, every player like Josh Sweat, he's a big
beneficiary because he could have won the MVPs, slated to
go into free agency, so he's gonna get paid a ton.
But the NFL like the narrative of these two teams
now swearing off, which you like. I don't know if
everyone wants to see them play all that often, but
you know, based on how the NFC looks, based on
Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid's track record, you're probably gonna
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see it again at some point in the future.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Also, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady Legacy secure we're good here,
because there was a lot of people that thought Andy Reid,
Patrick Mahomes, We're going to make a climb at this
no longer.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
So those those so one law is just just kills
it all.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's a big loss.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
We talked about it like there's a huge difference between
going from three to four, and it just feels like
that's a daunting task for Mahomes and Andy Reid to
make up that ground towards the end of their career
because I just don't see Andy Reid coaching as long
and I don't see Patrick Mahomes playing as long as
Tom Brady did. I mean, Brady played twenty three years.
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You think Patrick Mahomes is going to be, you know,
slinging the rock at forty four, forty five years old.
I mean, I just I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But you know, what the hell do I know?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And without further ado. It is a Wednesday tradition. He's
Petros Papadakis.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you can hear on the Blowtorch and five seven
of the LA Sports Oh my God, Fox College Football Analyst.
This is a better intro on x Petros. Good morning,
good morning, Hello, good morning Peece Petros.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
This kind of hits hard, this song.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, when you come on, it's it's actually a decent
walkout for you.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Why I've listened to the podcast of this interview and
the music gets taken out, you know, yeah, which is
why I only use like a hundred year old music
on my show.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Uh, so I can leave it in, and.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
That's half halfway a joke. But there's a lot of
stuff I try to use that I could leave in
that's not license. So people have something because so many
people a podcasting. But if you listen to the show
on the podcast, you know, the music's out. So it's
just you guys going same old, same old, like without
the music and then like a seven second pause and
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then like almost swarm on acrona wall. You know, it's
a little different, you know without the accompaniment.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Uh, Petros, you know that's why Jonas uses his own
music for his Saturday show.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yes, keep it in US radio types.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, got to find a way ye throw it off
us truck monkeys and the radio the.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Did you watch Super Bowl p Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, Well I got pretty drunk there, did you.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Yeah. I was a little overserved at the Super Bowl.
I was at a friend's house.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I didn't feel great the next day and I had
to skip yoga, But uh, yeah, it was it was
a I watched.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
I watched a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
It seemed a weird, disproportionate game. And I know everybody
has all their well, I knew when I saw this,
you know, And I say when I was on hole. Uh,
I knew when I saw them getting home with four
on my homes really early. And if they're rushing four
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and they're chasing them around, they were going to be
in trouble. And it was kind of like that throughout
the game. Uh. And I mean that's how it goes.
Every once in a while, you run into a buzz
saw in the world of football. And that's what Philadelphia
turned into. Down to stretch and congratulations to that horrible city.
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I only had to spend the night there once when
I got trapped on my way home from Greece in Philly. Yeah, yeah,
that's a cool sit. He's probably had some nice international Phillies.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
To go back over.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Only one thing I like about Philadelphia, and that is
the song Philadelphia Morning from the Rocky soundtrack. Now that
is well.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I I was just gonna ask you, so I like
the entire Rocky soundtrack. You're not a fan of the
whole thing.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
No, the whole thing is actually pretty uh pretty remarkable
the people they used, Like if you look at a
guy's name, Kanti, the guy that made the Rocky yea
his last name is Kanti, and it's really interesting because
nobody knew him. He kind of the way the movie
was made is always an interesting story. I'm not we're
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not talking about like Rocky three or Rocky four, which
is like one big montage Bill Concy. Yeah, Bill Conti,
so Bill Conti. And then you look at the different players,
Yeah beautiful. You look at the different players on the
on the songs, and they're really really great musicians.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Some of the best studio musicians absol.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Available in the twentieth century are on that. The drummer
and different stuff like that, and you know, getting strong
that whole chorus.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
There's a scene where a mix shows up to his
apartment to try and be his trainer when he gets
the fight in Rocky two.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I think this is out there where he's out there training,
like he's getting up in the morning and doing stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I think, No, no, I'm trying to I'm trying to
put it together.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Maybe it's where he realized I'm getting married to somebody
who works at a petches.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I think he was walking and bouncing the his racquetball.
Maybe I think he's bouncing his racketball.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Well, very impactful moment it is.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
It was insightful. It was very introspective. Petro speaking of impactful.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
That's what he gets up and he's drinking the eggs.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
This is I looked at up nineteen seventy Son Philadelphia Morning.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Can you get someoneillo from that?
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Okay, yeah, I used to do that just because of Rocky.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Many many did.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, with no real nutritional instruction none, And you guys
turned out fine.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, you did it.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Roy Petro's you made the recommendation last week Lucy's Retired
Surfers Bar and Restaurant in New Orleans.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
How did that go?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I just want to tell you a couple of things.
Best shrimp taco I've ever had. And it was also
the beginning of the end of Lee to laugh who
later he's planted on the streets.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
And I hear so much stuff about Lee, you know,
and I don't know what's going on, and I don't
really care because whenever I think about Lee, I think
about you know, flatulence that bothers froo it's time of
the morning, that type of humor. It's just not for me.
And see exactly, and that's gonna bother me.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I said, you pee a picture of the shark attack
that you recommended.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I had a shark attack there at the Duc's.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah. And I believe I texted you back and got
ghosted because you ended up in the gutter.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yep, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
You didn't respond bactly.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Look, there's nothing in the response till last night.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
There's nothing worse than being in New Orleans with somebody
who can't walk or move or falls in the gutter. Honestly,
it's the most difficult. It's a walking city, you know.
How do you think that guy ended up getting those
balls put on him at the Crystal when Arizona, Alabama
and LSU were playing because you passed out.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Oh that's right, I forgot about New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yes, oh yeah, I was there actually for that game.
Yeah that's back before I became a deep agoraphobe. But
the point is, I'm glad you guys went over there,
and I'm glad you had a good time in New Orleans.
The show sounded great and it felt like everybody had
a great time in New Orleans, Jamis Winston included, and
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all the wonder about the Luca trade and the NFL,
have they reached critical mass? And does anybody really care? Well,
the game started and more people watched than ever. It
seemed like everybody cared. So did you guys stay for
the game? No, amateur out right?
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Yeah, everybody does. Nobody stays for the game. A real
piece of crap to stay for the game.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah? Great.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You know what the biggest fear is, it's it's actually
the day after traveling back because those airports like New
Orleans Atlanta experiences and Atlanta is a big airport that
typically can handle big events, are a lot of congestion.
But I remember the day after the Super Bowl for
that one, it was a disaster. Thank god, I had
like the whole clear tsa pre thing because if you didn't,
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you weren't making your flight. There was no chance New
Orleans looked the exact same the day after from all reports.
So that's one of my greatest fears actually of going
to the game is actually, can I get back home
after being in whatever city away from my family for
over a week.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
But jeez, Petros, use some strategicy get on the ten
flat out at Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and then and connect two times of
actually make it home the.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Other way on the ten drive to Houston. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
You mentioned the Luca ad trade and we really haven't
touched on it at a time with the Super Bowl,
but I mean, this is how to have worked out
as good as it possibly could have for the Wakers
and as bad as it possibly could have for the
Maps at this point.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Fair Yeah, well there's the whole the Big Man that
they tried to get from Charlotte and totally screwed up
the trade and pissed off their rookie Dalton connectors.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Not but now you got n there's seventh Foot and
alex When.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Hell yeah remember the band lehn no no if you
steal my song that song sucks.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
I know it's up to me.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
That song's brutal and it's it's really just a straight
bite of the grateful dead song Scarlet Magonias.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
But anyway, that's a whole other story.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, they got the stiff white guy, and I think
most people are excited, Like at least me and I.
A lot of people don't like me over this, and
some people agree because he's very polarizing and he's been.
I thought Shaq and Kobe were polarizing, and then I
thought just Kobe alone because he was so kobied out,
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was polarizing. Lebron James is the most polarizing Laker of
all time. He's really made it so. I mean, I
get so much feedback for years that I don't root
for the Lakers anymore because Lebron. I want Lebron to
go and stop controlling the NBA.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
He's not one of us.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, I want Lebron to go so I can be
a Laker fan again. I mean, you hear that all
the time. It's not It's not like a weird sports
talk radio myth. Lebron has been a polarizing thing now
for them. I'm sure he's a moneymaker. It goes back
to the philosophy of doctor Buss. You got to have
a star and all this. But Lebron has been a
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lot of in a lot of ways, not really a
great representative of the franchise in my very humble opinion.
So if you bring Luka Doncic in, that means Lebron
is no longer the alpha dog. That's the first time
that's ever happened. Every time Lebron's been anywhere, there's a
picture of him given his best second player, the side eye,
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and then a couple weeks later that guy is a
lamb of the slaughter. He's done traded away I mean,
or the coach.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
The history is very dense that way, and everybody will
tell you one thing or another, but you look back
far enough away and it's pretty obvious what Lebron does
and how they operate.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Luca is a bigger like he's like you think Lebron thinks.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
That, well, I think Lebron knows that he's the future
of the Lakers. I mean, he's twenty five years old.
The Lakers brought him in so they could beat so
Luka Doncic jerseys will be sold seven years from now.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
You know that's not going to be Lebron.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
So he's not Lebron's no longer in charge, he's no
longer the future. And what interested me about it is
and you know, I mean, I'm with you, LeVar, it's
really convoluted. You know, the trade came out and some
people said, oh, Lebron went and got a d or
oh my god, Lebron didn't know about this. You got
Shamsherania doused in drakarn war. God that guy smells and man,
(40:56):
that guy loan, Yes, have you around him twice? And
it was enough to know it was like, the only
person that wears more Colone than Sharani is freaking Wayne Newton.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Oh, I don't know, a chopper wears a lot of Colone.
If my dad ever gave you a hug, you're good
for the rest of the day. You got your colone
on for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
But the only indicator I have, you know, beyond the
obvious stuff that we all read and you know, glean
from behind the scenes, is the people I know that
are quote unquote close with Lebron or livid about this,
livid about it at first, and oh well, why would Luca.
You know, there's Luca's got problems. He's fat, he's drunk.
(41:37):
It's like, yes, so what you know, you're describing the
whole NBA for thirty years. You know those guys were
fat and drunk. They eat three hot dogs on a
commercial flight, drank five or six Miller lights and go
out there. Yeah, play forty minutes and kick ass and
fight with Robert Parrish up. Yeah, I mean that used
to do.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
It, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So chief a punch you in the mouth now, I
love that.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
So to me, you know, it's it signals a change,
and Lebron's doing it now.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
You know, he's trying to be the nice.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Guy like, oh look I'm cool, and that won't last.
He's he can't exist without the attention. It's it's it's
oxygen to him and the control.
Speaker 6 (42:18):
It seems to be that way too. So we'll see
how it plays out.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
But the most exciting prospect for me, not even really
being a Laker fan, but just covering sports in LA
for decades now, is that it's not going to be
the Lebron show anymore. The first person you're going to
think about is Luca.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Now, how long does that take to happen.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
It's happened.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
It's already happened.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Yeah, it's happened. It's over. I mean, that's you brought in.
And the thing what people don't understand about Luka Doncics.
And I'm not gonna sit here and tell you you
know exactly who he is or who he isn't in
the in the word you used earlier the annals of
basketball history.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
But what I would say is.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
This, the guy was the Rookie of the Year and
then he went five times First Team All NBA. And
that's him and four other guys. That's and no one's
ever done that, No one Magic Jordan, no one's ever
done that. No one's ever been that impactful entering the
league and that good consistently for five years. And it's
not like he fell off and he's drunk. The guy
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was in the finals last year and he's drunk. So
I had to take the can off of him. Michael Finlan,
that's that was the beginning of the end. Though, when
you snatch a beer from the guy on camera and
and embarrass the guy, I mean, you know, I don't
know what he's like behind the scenes, and probably was
a nightmare, but.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
That was last year though that's not and that's not
this year. It feels like a different time, you know,
like beer's back drinking in public and I feel like
it's okay.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I mean now it is, and I feel like it
wasn't last year. It feels like it's okay. Now what
if he had a forty that would have been so
again last year, last year, This year, I think being
okay if it's it can if it's a forty ounce.
I'm just saying, if it had a brown paper bag
on it, I think that that's all the way.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Laugh.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
I think done.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
That's so much to put, like a gatorade bottle on
a brown paper bag. See if it one freaks out
about it. But I just I feel like it feels
more like guys being dudes is still, like it's more
of a thing again.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
It wasn't last year. It's more of a thing now.
Petros Well, you have that Gronkowski podcast. You know, is
Julian ed Edelman a dude or a dog? I don't know?
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Is that podcast.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
That I can't keep track? Like the podcasts that people
have and and I have no idea who listens to them?
Like I anyway, I can't. Hey, Petros advertise all of
them too, and.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
It's Petros is somebody who that's right, Petros is somebody
who you know knows Los Angeles and the surrounding areas.
Where would you recommend a guy like Luca, who you know,
likes a lung darter or two, likes to drink, not
really work out, Like, where's a good hangout spot for
him around town?
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Well? They all, I mean they all just moved to
Manhattan Beach because of the proximity to the training facility
in El Segunda, Southbro. Yeah, well, yeah, baby, what people
when people say the South Bay and Los Angeles, they
think of like one town or two, Manhattan Beach and
Hermosa Beach, which are really afterthoughts. I mean, the South
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Bay is is the freaking Harbor in Wilmington and a
bunch of other towns that people don't recognize as the
South Bay because they're white and stupid.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
But it's pretty browie though, I mean, how would you
describe to South Bay Bro.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
I would say it's less browie than Orange County, you know,
but those those these towns have dramatically changed just in
the last twenty five years.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
Like when I was a kid. Uh And in college.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Hermosa Beach was was a counterculture town with a weird
feeder that played rocky horror, and you know, that's where
like all the bands like Pennywise and Black Flag had
a bunch of history and it was a weirdo town
with rent control and heroin and uh. But there were
a lot of families and and you know, kind of
a sleepy beach town. And that's changed and Manhattan Beach
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has become you know, a place where you pay eight
million dollars for your house. You wake up and you
look out your window and two inches away next door,
you're watching some guy from the King's blow it out
on the toilet lap, you know, yeah, And they're like,
you know, you're like, well, what my house costs eight
million dollars? Where's my backyard?
Speaker 6 (46:42):
And they're like, no, no, Well the beach is your backyard, sir.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
And it's like, oh, okay, well I was on the
backyard and it's being used as an ash tray and
a brothel and a bunch of other things.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
You know.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
I mean it's a public beach, for God's sakes, So
on the beach, well, I.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Mean a lot of stuff be happening each if you
go out, really you go to the bar and then
you go out to the beach.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Hey, LaVar, you live close to there, don't you. Yeah,
I live right next to the whole pee.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I was just gonna say, man.
Speaker 6 (47:11):
You might get a better to Redondo Beach.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Looking I'm close to Redondo Beach, which is a beach
that I still like, because Redondo Beach is much like
the old South Bay that I grew up, and it's
too far from the freeway for the new school douchebags
like Luka Doncic and his Slovene mafia. They're all going
to be, you know, twenty minutes down PCH or up
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PCH toward the airport. So anyway, he will live in
Manhattan Beach, I'm quite sure, especially I don't know, especially
with the drinking, you know, because with the drinking, you know,
it's a good drink city.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
You can you know, you can get around quickly with
ubers and stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I've never seen Lakers out in Manhattan Beach. Like I
eat at Bills all the time too, I never see them.
They've blend in so Uncle Bill all the time.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
You see the Papaacas to havever in a plate on
the wall from my dad's rest.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
I've seen that, you know me, he's there for breakfast. Pats,
I should get chocolate, She panics.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
My podcast. Kids to school, dang gases. Go in there,
wake them up, come back. Thirty minutes later, they're still
in bed.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Are you are the surfers still whooping the asses of
of Like, you know, that's overcomers.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
That's you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
Well, there's localism at every beach, but uh, you're talking
about Lenada Bay, which is one of the big, biggest
Uh well, not always that way, but when it's going,
it's one of the great surf spots and the history
of the world.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
You don't come there, if you a't from here, don't
ever come around here.
Speaker 6 (48:50):
Yeah, it's worse than that.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I mean, these the Bay boys are well now they're
like sixty year old guys and their kids are the
Bay Boys. But they are like, you know, trust fund guys.
You know, my father invented plastic on this and that
we're talking about some of the biggest, most beautiful. This
that's over where Lincoln Riley lives and his house is
about twenty million dollar house. And if Lincoln Riley paddled
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out there, they'd probably poop on his the hood of
his car. They slash tires of pro surfers and all
kinds of stuff. But there's been a bunch of articles
written in international publications like The Guardian and stuff about
how bad the Bay Boys are. And I think they
finally made the city do a bunch of stuff so
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they didn't have to pay a bunch of money in
a class action lawsuit. So they took down the Bay
Boys little self built bunker down there, like a little
surf shed.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
They made them dismantle that. I think they built a
shower down there, by the.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Way I'm looking at it here. In twenty sixteen, Newsweek
called the Lenada Bay Boys quote America's most notorious surf gang.
Guess it's like real life point break crips, bloods and
and the Bay Boys take.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
It relaxed war child. But I mean we're not talking
about like scary looking people. I mean we're talking about
they're the worst.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
They're the worst. They're the worst ones.
Speaker 6 (50:19):
Though, Yeah, they're the worst.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
They're the worst ones.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Would be a waste of time.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
That's Blake and his father owns three hundred Burger Kings.
Speaker 5 (50:31):
So you're saying these guys have no relation to the
Island Boys, like those guys.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Right boys Island?
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, what are those junkies up to?
Speaker 6 (50:41):
The Island boys? The Island boys are really falling off?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
They do you think ye that they ever really want?
What were they to fall off?
Speaker 4 (50:51):
They reached a great pinnacle of fame for a short
moment the Island.
Speaker 5 (51:01):
So was that like one of the like like Petros?
Did that ever make you look at today's dan age
and go, what the hell is going on? When these
guys are popular or at least go viral? Does that
not make you question everything about life at that point?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Oh so much in the world happens that makes me
question everything about life at every point. But uh no,
I just think any Awards show you watch nowadays, you
watch that and you're just like, God, this sucks, you know.
I mean, I got nothing against Kendrick Lamar. You know
that was all right?
Speaker 2 (51:36):
It sucked.
Speaker 6 (51:37):
I mean, I don't know, it's a.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
I get offended when they try to appeal super widely too, though.
You know it's like we got Aerosmith and Britney Spears
and the Blues Brothers, you know, and here's Little John's
you know what they you know, like they used to
do that in the Super Bowl, like, you know, throw
like twenty acts out there at least, you know, if
there's one act a lot of people like or don't like,
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let them do that.
Speaker 6 (52:03):
Let them do their act and let everybody be polarized.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
But I guess I would prefer that too, you know,
throwing every like all the spaghetti at the wall and
trying to make it stick.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Well, it's been so many theories coming out of that
that show, you know, so many profound theories and so
many profiles.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
I mean, just you know, I mean, it's bottom I
just I want to know because like I've not heard
anyone really break down.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
That's what That's what I'm saying. That's everybody's discussing theories though.
That's like everybody's him pointing out where society and culture
is hitting. But that's what art's supposed to do, the
Hunger Games or or not the Hunger Games, the Squid
Games and stuff like that, to show it, like everything
strategically plays to show like a you know, like a but.
Speaker 6 (52:51):
That's what art's supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
It's to shine a light. Man.
Speaker 6 (52:55):
People think about it.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
A lot of great artists will refuse to explain their
work and want people to interpret it. From how I
understand Kendrick Lamar, though I'm not a modern hip hop guy,
is that he's much more thoughtful and puts a lot thoughtful. Dude, Yeah,
he does more. He puts a lot more into it
than Thomas in the corner.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
That's very little to no thought, by the way, that's
that's Chad Gps.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
The guy did perform at halftime and the Lions lost
that game.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
So, guys, the toughest gangs in l A by far
are not in the city and they're not on the beach.
Speaker 6 (53:31):
They're at Disneyland.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
Damn right are they? Oh yeah, with the Disney gangs
like Pinocchio's Crew or whatever. Really, oh yeah, the real boys.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Lorraine is part of one of them gangs.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
See
It is the best of two pros and a coupled
Joe with Lamar Aarings and rating Winn and Jonas Knox
on Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The studios fall apart.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
It appears we've got chairs that are breaking left and right.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I mean, is it falling apart or torn up?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I don't know what we came back to after New Orleans,
but it feels like a lot of damage done here
in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't know. I just I can't imagine what some
of these people's homes look like. Man, that's all I'm
gonna say. It's all i'm gonna say. Okay, so a
Q That's all I'm gonna say. Bro Okay. Yeah. I mean,
I know how I treat the studio when I come
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in here. You know, I have something, I use it.
If it's rubbish, you throw it away. If it's a
piece of fir furniture, you treat it with care because
you know, well other people are using it and you
didn't buy it, so you know, don't just do any
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old thing to it, you know, and listen. I get it,
the wear and tear of multiple bodies touching you know,
the stuff and everything that's going on. But you know,
it just seems as though that song that Jonas has
us coming into it just seems as though something, something
or someone comes through this studio and that's that's the
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theme song going on in their head while they're in
this room.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, Shock by Fear Factory. They are, you know, not familiar.
It's a big one.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, I know, you know, well not to mention, you know,
like things are sitting everywhere and you know, no real uh,
I don't know, I don't know. Order no, you know what.
There you go. I'm gonna leave it at that. I'm
stout there. Yeah, it does look like the sun truck
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in their a little bit. Stop that you bring that up? Hey,
how you doing, buddy, Yes, that's what doing good. Doing good.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Just try to fend off every possible illness that's going
around right now. It will it hit finally both my sons,
which obviously the infant is a bit of a concern.
So yesterday was a more stressful day than it needed
to be. But all is well on the home front,
at least in that regard. We'll see how how everyone
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wakes up this morning. But yeah, actually a big, big
shout out to my youngest daughter Cassidy. It's her fifth
birthday today. Happy birthday, sassity. That's all right. Now what
are the big plans are you?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Guys? I'm glad you asked Jonas. You know where she's
gonna have her birthday party?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Where's that at?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We had a drum roll?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Please?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Is there drum rolls? Just too early for y ray
and find a drum bears anyone, anyone that's in the studio.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Chuck Cheese.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
They still have those, they do it. In fact, they've
they've revamped them. They don't look like they like.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
They don't have that like ball pit where eight kids
would puke and someone like Jonas would turn and be like,
I encleaning that up. Yeah, damn, it's it's different. Now
it's clean, it's nice. I think they still serve beer
and the pizza's not bad. Yea still serve beers. Pizza
was always a thing at Chuck E Cheese. I will
say that, by the way, Underrated Wings really never had wings.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Didn't know they had wings.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, Underrated Wings salad as decent. They got beer and wine,
and yeah, they got rid of a lot of them,
got rid of like most of the animated characters and
all that. I think they've tried to sort of veer
into the more Dave and Busters type feel towards, you know,
just games and fun. The ballpits are gone, though, and
(04:00):
I wonder if COVID had anything to do with that,
because those things are filthy.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Maybe it's just work. They were filthy and it was
just time to move on from those things, you know,
just maybe a thought, Yeah, maybe a thought. But good Cassidy,
enjoy chuck e cheese. You know they changed the rat too, right.
The rat isn't the same rat anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, don't.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I mean it doesn't look like jonas like a mouse now, yeah,
because it was a rat. It's very malnourished. He looks,
which doesn't make sense because their food. He's on that diet,
and it might be it. Yeah, the people Jonahs knocked
that Jahs knocked, not mine, you're the Jonahs knocks that.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I barely eat any food. Well surely surely not eating
the diet that U we saw New Orleans. I mean
that is just that's that's quite quite some diet down there.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, it definitely is. And uh, there's plenty more where
that came from. You see, it's Kellen Moore. What a stunner,
What an absolute stunner. Kellen Moore is the brand new
head coach of the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
He will take over and try and figure out in
what appears to be a division that seemingly is up
for grabs every single year. I don't know what the expectation.
At one point, when New Orleans started two and o
last year and they wiped out Dallas and you know,
Derek Carr is doing the Michael Jackson crotch grab in
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the end zone after a touchdown, It's like, man, the
Saints are finally playing true to form. And the next
thing you know, a couple of months later, Dennis Allen
gets fired. Darren Rizzy's assaulting his punter and we're just
trying to figure out how we can get to the
end of the year. Now the Saints have their guy.
Kellen Moore takes over and he's been kind of the
The expectation is he was a head coach in waiting
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or a guy that was project did to be a
head coach. Some thought it would be in Dallas, but
he ends up getting the Saints out there. So congratulations Kellen.
N nice few days for you worst kept secret in
the NFL over the past several weeks. So there's that
how do we feel about the Saints upon the hiring
of Kellen Moore?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Because I'm not sure that's going to make much of
a difference, to be honest with you.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Well, it's interesting because typically you go with an offensive
mine like this, when you've got a quarterback or a
young quarterback, you're trying to pair them together. So I'm
curious to what exactly this means for Derek Carr, you know,
what exactly this means for how they feel about him,
because you would think that they're saying, we feel like
we can get more out of Derek Carr has been
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there two years now, he's like fourteen and thirteen I
think as a starter, is throwing forty touchdowns the thirteen interceptions,
and has passed for a little over two hundred and
twenty yards per game.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And so there's a thought that, you know, is is
that what this is about?
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Or is it just they feel like this is the
best person to lead this locker room or this next
great young offensive mine to be able to whether it's
Derek Carr or someone else. Because the thing about Derek
Carr is they have to make a decision by March
fifteenth of this year. That date's significant because he's got
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his base salary that will be fully guaranteed of thirty
million dollars for this upcoming season if he's still on
the roster at that point. So I think we all
know what's gonna happen once they hit that date. If
he's still on the roster, he's the starter for this year.
If he's not, it's obviously not the case. But I'm
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more curious as to the decision from ownership to hire
Kellen Moore. Was that factored in the opinion that Kellen
Moore has of Derek Carr, or did Derek Carr or
excuse m Kellen Moore take the job because Derek Carr
because he feels like he's got a guy who can
maybe get him through the next year or two. As again,
he's got two years left on his deal. You know,
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this team isn't that far removed from being a pretty
good team. So I think you got to take into consideration,
obviously what you have at the quarterback position, what you
will do with Car that's one hundred a part of it,
and I think you got to take a good look
at what the rest of your personnel looks like. And
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I'm sure he's already started to do so, and he'll
he'll probably continue to look at it more. But it's
it's almost, you know, it's almost like a you gotta
look at it as if you're.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Moving into a new place to live. What what what
should stay? What should go? And I think that's going
to be the biggest challenge for him coming into it.
And I think the reason why would be the biggest
challenge is is because this has been largely a part
of roster that has been pretty competitive. You know, I
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think two out of the last what four years or
so they had finished third or fourth, but in other
times they finished second. And and you know, I guess
not not too bad, not too far out. They haven't
won it, but they're not that far away from being
more I guess competitive in in the NFC South. So
(09:23):
you know, it's it's interesting because I look at Tampa
Bay obviously, I think that that is the team to
beat right now in the South. Atlanta could be better,
but you know, we'll see what Pennix does and what
Raheem Morris does, and and and this next season. It's
a it's a division where you can actually to me,
(09:47):
I think you should take the time to figure out
what is the personality of your team, Who are the
personnel on your on your team that pushes this team
forward with you as a coach, and what needs to
go I think if if he does a good job
of that in year one, if he does a good
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job of that in year one and doesn't lose his job,
like doesn't you know, if ownership gives them an opportunity
to get in there, see what needs to be done,
get through year one, and then continue to build from there.
Keller Moore seems to be a really, really fine play caller,
give him some time. I don't know who his staff
is going to be on defense, but defensively, they've always
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been a pretty Yeah, they've been pretty solid on defense.
They're not too far off on defense. I think some
of the things that they need to correct on offense.
If he has a little bit of time and I
think it'll be all right. But we'll see. I mean,
it's not the worst division to go into and have
to do a rebuild, but will he have the opportunity
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to do so.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know, sometimes Aaron Rodgers gets the blame or like
the Steelers and Tomlin will get the accusation that, well,
you're just living off that one super Bowl and that
was a long time ago. I kind of feel like
the Saints are the same thing, Like what have they
really done since that Super Bowl? Like they've had you know,
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like a couple of chunk years, like in you know,
twenty seventeen to twenty twenty where they were, you know,
really competitive. Obviously the NFC title game lost to the Rams,
everybody still goes back to because of the awful call,
but there's been a lot of five hundred or right
below five hundred mediocre years mixed in. And I don't
know why I fall victim to the thought that, oh,
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it's still the same competitive Saints that are going to be,
you know, in the mix. And they've had a lot
of talent there, They've had really talented players, but it's
really been kind of stuck in the mud for the
past several years, especially with Drew Brees walking away when
he did. They lost that playoff game, and they've been
nowhere close to what anybody thought they were going to
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be and the expectations for them. They were the favorite
to win that division, either this past year or the year.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Before, and now I had them winning it this year
like it just it.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Feels like it's they're they're kind of a tease and
and it goes back to that one year they won
a Super Bowl. But other than that, there's not a
whole lot for it. So I don't know, that's my thought.
And by the way, I don't know the last time
I've been to an airport where you can't find one
single item of the local team walking around the airport,
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not a single Saints item up for sale.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Just sold out, Jonas, That's why?
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just sold out?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, I don't blame him after a year like this,
I'd want mercer that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
That diehard of fans man. I don't think you need
to hold it against them. Yeah, I don't. I wasn't
even looking. No, no, no, wasn't even looking. Wasn't wasn't
even in my thought process. Hammer, Is there a reason
why you wanted to do that? Jonas?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Are you trying to get your son something and then
potentially put him in you know, the the conflict of
having to you know, have him be confused and think, oh,
it's his dad's team.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
He oh god, yeah, yeah, no, definitely not. The reality
is Bree who was helping us out on Friday. She's
a diehard Saints fan. So you were for something for yeah,
and she was she was helping. I was like, oh,
maybe if I see something, I told her, Yeah, if
I see something, I'll grab you. And then I looked
around the airport. I realized, oh, there's nothing here, nothing
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at all, Like they don't have anything of Saints merch anywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So but if you were really thinking about her in
that way, you would have gotten one before you got
to the airport. You were trying to be a nice
person out of convenience versus just being a nice person
about getting her.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Okay, that's correact. That's what airports are, honest, that's what
airport gifts are.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
That's very true. You're on your way out, like God,
let me grab something that's true.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Let me give you guys a little foreshadowing of things
that come, because I think we look at this, this
window of time now for the Philly, for Philadelphia and
the Eagles, and we go, yeah, they're you know, they've
got this run. Now, we've got this nucleus this roster.
You know, yes, there are guys like Zach Bond, Josh
Sweat who they're gonna have to figure out who had
great seasons if they even can can sign them back.
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If not, they have to fill that void. But one
of the things that Jalen Hurt says in his contract
and multiple other players, and one of the reasons why
Howie Rosen has been able to construct the rust the
way he did was voidable years in the back end
of the deal. So the cap space for the Eagles,
it's fine for twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, but
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in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, twenty nine thirty,
Like that's when right now the Saints are number two,
is for least amount of salary cap space, and then
they have the least amount or the highest cap. Everyone
to look at it in twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine,
twenty twenty thirty.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Excuse me, So think about that for a second.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
And the reason why I bring that up is because
as we look at the Saints, we kind of talked
about them being in purgatory, like this is a team
that you're not really sure you know what to expect
from them.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know, LaVar, you mentioned they have some good defensive pieces.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
I think offensively they say have some offensive pieces, but
they're nowhere in contention.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Like they were probably would say a few years ago.
Drew Brees and Sean Payton. I think it's fair to
say absolutely.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The problem is the Saints did the exact same thing,
exact same thing that the Eagles and Howie Roseman have
been doing when they were in that window with Breese
and Peyton trying to win a Super Bowl. So, for example,
Marshawn Lattimore for this upcoming season, he's got a dead
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cap hit of almost thirty two million, and he that
you guys in there. That and Michael Thomas he's got
a dead cap hit of over nine million. Jameis Winston
he's got a dead cap hit of over seven million.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Not even there.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I mean, Drew Brees was carrying dead cap hits in
previous years for like three years running. I'm trying to
go back and look through to see you when the
last time breeze on the cap table. But there's been
a number of players who hadn't been there, and they've
been on a dead cap and that's unfortunately what happens
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is as eventually you got to pay that bill. You know,
eventually the bell tolls and you've got to go, you know,
pay whatever that number is. So if you're you're you're
an Eagles fan, the super Bowl is great. Congratulations. You've
got a window now in the next two years where
you can keep this whole thing together. And if you're
hitting the draft or you're hitting some free agents, guys
who can step up and step.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
In and play well like you can repeat.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
But after that, it's gonna take a magician, and you've
got that magician, Howie Roseman, to be able to potentially
get you out of some of that cap hell you'll
be in.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
Theive's coming up next here we are coined. And by
the way, later on Petris Papadaki.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's a hell of a dog.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
By the way, LeVar is watching the Westminster Dog Show
on FS one and it is and just came on
that might be a mass, but they had I was
watching that massive is called beast.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Look at him. It's a good looking dude. Big Boy too.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I would have worn his ass out, but he's dead,
so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m. Eastern three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
The outfits so hideous at the dog show though, damn
bad outfits yoga. They should have matched their dog to
be honest, like some do. They should. I just think
that their their outfits are wild cheese. They could do better. Yeah,
they should do better. Yeah, Okay, some of those dogs
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look terrible. I know that that dog it won't be there.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So the super Bowl is over, the NFL season's over,
and there are some people that are benefiting still from
what happened in the Super Bowl. We talked about the
collateral damage that took place yesterday and just how you
know a bunch of different people were impacted, whether it's
different divisions, different organizations who had coaches and decided to
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move on from them. Shout out the Dallas Cowboys. But
when it talking about the situation and the Eagles winning
the Super Bowl, who's benefited the most from it, and
we could run the gamut from just the organization to
the city to the food items. I'll say this now
(18:46):
that I've had a po boy, you can go ahead
and be dismissed from the conversation. The cheese steak significantly better,
significantly than that rubbish that New Orleans rolled out. As
far as a poet.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Can we get some female by the way, for this,
we kind of lacked that a little bit yesterday. I
think it got lost in the discussion of the collateral damage.
Now that we've got the biggest beneficiaries.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
What's the good theme music for Philadelphia?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Rocky has to be a rocky Yeah, I would say
rocky theme song with that pressure on you type quick
then quick?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Do you want going the disk?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No? Oh no, no, just.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Just play it?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
You play it? Oh no oh wow, there you go.
All right, Well, we'll just get right into it.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
There you.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
We could name Jalen Hurts. I think that's obvious. Nick Sirianni,
that's obvious, all right. But to me, the guy who's
making a case for the Hall of Fame is Howie Roseman,
the general manager. And for this reason he's now been
the architect of two separate Super Bowl wins, been to
a third, and there's seventeen general managers are front office
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types from my count that are in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame. This puts him amongst that group of
those that have impacted teams in that way with the
roster construction.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So he's one of with two different head coaches. I
think he's one of the biggest beneficiaries.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
In my eyes, for at least looking at that saying
all right, he's going to be the guy that I
think ends up going into it after it's all said out,
especially if they win another one. The next group the dudes,
the guys, the Bradley Cooper's, the Miles Tellers, the Shane Gillises.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
The sly Stallone.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
It feels like, if you're comparing the two fan bases
between Kansas City and Philadelphia, it was a bunch of
just guys being dudes. Maybe some celebrities, but just guys
who like Philly all right, and then Kansas City at
Taylor swift And don't get me wrong, you know Rob
Wriggles in there. You got some other you know, famous
people who are part of that too, But the Swifties
kind of took it all over, you know, and for
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Philly fans, like, you know, they've been through some downtimes,
but they're true fans. So I would say that group,
the guys, the dudes over the Swifties also went out
in a big, big way. Also goes far as in
the Washington Commandos. They're a big beneficiary of us for
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in one point. In one way, yes, they got blown
out in the NFC Championship game, but so did Kansas City,
and so maybe Washington is not as far off for
being a team that could potentially compete with the likes
of a team in Kansas City. And I think when
you go back and look at that game, you're like, hey,
they're just getting started, Dan Quinn, Jaydon Daniels, that whole group.
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Another offseason, we'll see what they're capable of. But I
think the Washington Commandos were washing thinking we could have
done better than this. Now that the NFC Championship game was,
you know, not competitive, but it really was a super
for that matter.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Next up is cheese steaks.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Cheese steaks over barbecue, all right, Adam, doesn't matter if
it's Jim's West or Barry Steaks, Gino's you know, Angelo's Philips, whoever,
whoever you want to points to you wherever your favorite
chief steak comes from there in Philly. All right, that
was on the line, whether we realize that or not.
All right, So it could be Arthur Bryant's Oklahoma, Joe's
Jack Statt whatever. They took the l to the Philly
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cheese steak in this matchup as well. So those are
the biggest beneficiaries in my mind as compared to what
we saw yesterday with the collateral damage.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's fair. Interesting, Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
The Howie Roseman discussion and the fact that he also
you know, is doing this, and not only the Tom
Brady era, but the Patrick Mahomes era, I think also
speaks volumes about just what he's built with the backup
with you know, quarterbacks that weren't first round draft picks
and being able to do that and also how many
times you see an NFL team. And by the way,
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Carson Wentz also rough chapter at his his history.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
With the Eagles. What took place there doesn't fit the narrative.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Here, Yeah, but I'm saying he doesn't. He didn't get
any burn time like you wouldn't at least like, give
him an opportunity. Now we're straight away from okay, but
but no. But the point is he didn't get any
burn time. Kenny Pickett did. And so I look at that,
and I go, Howie Roseman sitting there looking across the
field at a guy who can't get on the field
and is thinking, you know, yeah, we walked away from him.
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Like how many times do teams whiff on or make
a mistake or go through an injury with their highly
drafted quarterback they gave a franchise deal to and still
win a Super Bowl with a backup, and then win
a Super Bowl after a coaching change with a guy
who was also the backup to that quarterback once he
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got back healthy. It's pretty amazing what they've done with
their lack of franchise first round draft picked quarterback, which
is sort of the discussion and in the narrative that
most people have when you can't win a Super Bowl
unless you've got one.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Of those guys. I'm gonna bring it back to the
quarterback that won the Super Bowl and got the MVP Award.
It's interesting beneficiaries. I look at Jalen Hurts as he's
now a beneficiary of possibly being slated as the the
arch nemesis of Patrick Mahomes. Like if you think about it,
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they're one and one. Now if this this Eagles team
and he's outplayed them in both and and so if
if you're thinking, okay, you know, who's who's the who's
the Peyton Manning to Tom Brady or to Tom Brady
to Peyton Manning, like this could be the start of
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at some point when we really get an opportunity to
look back on how things have really gone between these
two quarterbacks. Jalen Hurts could possibly find himself being the
beneficiary of being a contemporary and a comparison of who's
you know, like, Okay, he doesn't have as many super Bowls,
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but they're just getting going, you know. And in some
regards like Jalen Hurts isn't isn't old, you know, he's
at he's at the younger party. He's like at the
what like I wouldn't say middle stage of his career.
He's like maybe in the second quarter of his career.
So it hurts Hurts. I think he's was he twenty six,
twenty seven? I don't think he's good what he's like
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at six seven years in now six six years. I
don't think he's not old. He's not old, dude. Yeah,
I think he's actually more the younger. Yeah he's young.
He's young. Yeah. So I'm just saying I think that
the beneficiary in terms of for for like who comes
away with maybe possibly like how he definitely gets a
(25:55):
lot of credit for this, But I also look at
it like, Okay, you weren't willing to commit all the
way to Jalen Hurts at one point, and that's probably
why Doug Peterson ended up losing his job. Was just
kind of the indecision of what you're going to do
with our draft pick. He ends up losing his job.
You end up, like Nick Sirianni is, probably he's the
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beness benefit. He's a big benefactor off of this as well,
because he did come in and believe in Jalen Hurts
to the degree and the capacity that he did, and
all it's done is yield victories for for Nick Sirianni,
And so to me, I think there's going to be
the conversation that Jalen Hurts has to be at some
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point considered a rival and to Patrick Mahomes and the
Patrick Mahomes era. That's a tremendous that's a tremendous benefit
to be in that conversation because of how elite Patrick
Mahomes has been.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Well, he's now just the third quarterback to beat him
in the playoffs. Brady Burrow, Jalen Hurts, Hey, and take
it to another's never done it, Lamar has never done it.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Take it to another level. Let's throw Nick Sirianni and
let's see how long, how much longer you know, coach
Reid stays around? But I mean, is he the arch
nemesis to Andy Reid? You know, does Nick Sirianni build
up some real clout off of being the guy who
was able to take down and slay Andy Reid? And
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this daunted you know, Kansas City, Kansas City team.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
You know, it's creative at Philadelphia, though, you can never
get comfortable if you're at the Eagles because there's a
lot of people saying the same thing about Nick Foles
and deug Peterson.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
And it was like an hour and a half later
they were gone, Yeah, but this is their second time though,
I know, and this is your time. So now they
don't have to just meet in the Super Bowl. This
now becomes a big game if they're on each other's schedule,
Like anytime these guys go against each other, it's going
to be looked at as this is a big time
game because of what has been created with them matching
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up in this super Bowl. That's a bit and the
NFL benefits from that. There have been a factor from that,
because you can hype that if I'm the NFL and
I'm the schedule makers, I'm one hundred trying to make
sure that the Eagles and the Chiefs play during a
regular seas though, there you go, that's a good one, right,
that's a good one. I mean the hurts here, anything's obvious.
I think we all know.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
I mean, every player like Josh Sweat, he's a big
beneficiary because he could have won the MVPs, slated to
go into free agency, so he's gonna get paid a ton.
But the NFL like the narrative of these two teams
now swearing off, which you like. I don't know if
everyone wants to see them play all that often, but
you know, based on how the NFC looks, based on
Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid's track record, you're probably gonna
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see it again at some point in the future.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Also, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady Legacy secure we're good here,
because there was a lot of people that thought Andy Reid,
Patrick Mahomes, We're going to make a climb at this
no longer.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
So those those so one law is just just kills
it all.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's a big loss.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
We talked about it like there's a huge difference between
going from three to four, and it just feels like
that's a daunting task for Mahomes and Andy Reid to
make up that ground towards the end of their career
because I just don't see Andy Reid coaching as long
and I don't see Patrick Mahomes playing as long as
Tom Brady did. I mean, Brady played twenty three years.
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You think Patrick Mahomes is going to be, you know,
slinging the rock at forty four, forty five years old.
I mean, I just I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But you know, what the hell do I know?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And without further ado. It is a Wednesday tradition. He's
Petros Papadakis.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you can hear on the Blowtorch and five seven
of the LA Sports Oh my God, Fox College Football Analyst.
This is a better intro on x Petros. Good morning,
good morning, Hello, good morning Peece Petros.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
This kind of hits hard, this song.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, when you come on, it's it's actually a decent
walkout for you.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Why I've listened to the podcast of this interview and
the music gets taken out, you know, yeah, which is
why I only use like a hundred year old music
on my show.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Uh, so I can leave it in, and.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
That's half halfway a joke. But there's a lot of
stuff I try to use that I could leave in
that's not license. So people have something because so many
people a podcasting. But if you listen to the show
on the podcast, you know, the music's out. So it's
just you guys going same old, same old, like without
the music and then like a seven second pause and
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then like almost swarm on acrona wall. You know, it's
a little different, you know without the accompaniment.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Uh, Petros, you know that's why Jonas uses his own
music for his Saturday show.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Yes, keep it in US radio types.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, got to find a way ye throw it off
us truck monkeys and the radio the.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Did you watch Super Bowl p Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, Well I got pretty drunk there, did you.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Yeah. I was a little overserved at the Super Bowl.
I was at a friend's house.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I didn't feel great the next day and I had
to skip yoga, But uh, yeah, it was it was
a I watched.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
I watched a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
It seemed a weird, disproportionate game. And I know everybody
has all their well, I knew when I saw this,
you know, And I say when I was on hole. Uh,
I knew when I saw them getting home with four
on my homes really early. And if they're rushing four
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and they're chasing them around, they were going to be
in trouble. And it was kind of like that throughout
the game. Uh. And I mean that's how it goes.
Every once in a while, you run into a buzz
saw in the world of football. And that's what Philadelphia
turned into. Down to stretch and congratulations to that horrible city.
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I only had to spend the night there once when
I got trapped on my way home from Greece in Philly. Yeah, yeah,
that's a cool sit. He's probably had some nice international Phillies.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
To go back over.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Only one thing I like about Philadelphia, and that is
the song Philadelphia Morning from the Rocky soundtrack. Now that
is well.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I I was just gonna ask you, so I like
the entire Rocky soundtrack. You're not a fan of the
whole thing.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
No, the whole thing is actually pretty uh pretty remarkable
the people they used, Like if you look at a
guy's name, Kanti, the guy that made the Rocky yea
his last name is Kanti, and it's really interesting because
nobody knew him. He kind of the way the movie
was made is always an interesting story. I'm not we're
(32:59):
not talking about like Rocky three or Rocky four, which
is like one big montage Bill Concy. Yeah, Bill Conti,
so Bill Conti. And then you look at the different players,
Yeah beautiful. You look at the different players on the
on the songs, and they're really really great musicians.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Some of the best studio musicians absol.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Available in the twentieth century are on that. The drummer
and different stuff like that, and you know, getting strong
that whole chorus.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
There's a scene where a mix shows up to his
apartment to try and be his trainer when he gets
the fight in Rocky two.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I think this is out there where he's out there training,
like he's getting up in the morning and doing stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I think, No, no, I'm trying to I'm trying to
put it together.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Maybe it's where he realized I'm getting married to somebody
who works at a petches.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I think he was walking and bouncing the his racquetball.
Maybe I think he's bouncing his racketball.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Well, very impactful moment it is.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
It was insightful. It was very introspective. Petro speaking of impactful.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
That's what he gets up and he's drinking the eggs.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
This is I looked at up nineteen seventy Son Philadelphia Morning.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Can you get someoneillo from that?
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Okay, yeah, I used to do that just because of Rocky.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Many many did.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, with no real nutritional instruction none, And you guys
turned out fine.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, you did it.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Roy Petro's you made the recommendation last week Lucy's Retired
Surfers Bar and Restaurant in New Orleans.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
How did that go?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I just want to tell you a couple of things.
Best shrimp taco I've ever had. And it was also
the beginning of the end of Lee to laugh who
later he's planted on the streets.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
And I hear so much stuff about Lee, you know,
and I don't know what's going on, and I don't
really care because whenever I think about Lee, I think
about you know, flatulence that bothers froo it's time of
the morning, that type of humor. It's just not for me.
And see exactly, and that's gonna bother me.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I said, you pee a picture of the shark attack
that you recommended.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I had a shark attack there at the Duc's.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah. And I believe I texted you back and got
ghosted because you ended up in the gutter.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yep, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
You didn't respond bactly.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Look, there's nothing in the response till last night.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
There's nothing worse than being in New Orleans with somebody
who can't walk or move or falls in the gutter. Honestly,
it's the most difficult. It's a walking city, you know.
How do you think that guy ended up getting those
balls put on him at the Crystal when Arizona, Alabama
and LSU were playing because you passed out.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Oh that's right, I forgot about New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yes, oh yeah, I was there actually for that game.
Yeah that's back before I became a deep agoraphobe. But
the point is, I'm glad you guys went over there,
and I'm glad you had a good time in New Orleans.
The show sounded great and it felt like everybody had
a great time in New Orleans, Jamis Winston included, and
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all the wonder about the Luca trade and the NFL,
have they reached critical mass? And does anybody really care? Well,
the game started and more people watched than ever. It
seemed like everybody cared. So did you guys stay for
the game? No, amateur out right?
Speaker 6 (36:34):
Yeah, everybody does. Nobody stays for the game. A real
piece of crap to stay for the game.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah? Great.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You know what the biggest fear is, it's it's actually
the day after traveling back because those airports like New
Orleans Atlanta experiences and Atlanta is a big airport that
typically can handle big events, are a lot of congestion.
But I remember the day after the Super Bowl for
that one, it was a disaster. Thank god, I had
like the whole clear tsa pre thing because if you didn't,
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you weren't making your flight. There was no chance New
Orleans looked the exact same the day after from all reports.
So that's one of my greatest fears actually of going
to the game is actually, can I get back home
after being in whatever city away from my family for
over a week.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
But jeez, Petros, use some strategicy get on the ten
flat out at Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and then and connect two times of
actually make it home the.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Other way on the ten drive to Houston. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
You mentioned the Luca ad trade and we really haven't
touched on it at a time with the Super Bowl,
but I mean, this is how to have worked out
as good as it possibly could have for the Wakers
and as bad as it possibly could have for the
Maps at this point.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Fair Yeah, well there's the whole the Big Man that
they tried to get from Charlotte and totally screwed up
the trade and pissed off their rookie Dalton connectors.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Not but now you got n there's seventh Foot and
alex When.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Hell yeah remember the band lehn no no if you
steal my song that song sucks.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
I know it's up to me.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
That song's brutal and it's it's really just a straight
bite of the grateful dead song Scarlet Magonias.
Speaker 6 (38:25):
But anyway, that's a whole other story.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah, they got the stiff white guy, and I think
most people are excited, Like at least me and I.
A lot of people don't like me over this, and
some people agree because he's very polarizing and he's been.
I thought Shaq and Kobe were polarizing, and then I
thought just Kobe alone because he was so kobied out,
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was polarizing. Lebron James is the most polarizing Laker of
all time. He's really made it so. I mean, I
get so much feedback for years that I don't root
for the Lakers anymore because Lebron. I want Lebron to
go and stop controlling the NBA.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
He's not one of us.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, I want Lebron to go so I can be
a Laker fan again. I mean, you hear that all
the time. It's not It's not like a weird sports
talk radio myth. Lebron has been a polarizing thing now
for them. I'm sure he's a moneymaker. It goes back
to the philosophy of doctor Buss. You got to have
a star and all this. But Lebron has been a
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lot of in a lot of ways, not really a
great representative of the franchise in my very humble opinion.
So if you bring Luka Doncic in, that means Lebron
is no longer the alpha dog. That's the first time
that's ever happened. Every time Lebron's been anywhere, there's a
picture of him given his best second player, the side eye,
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and then a couple weeks later that guy is a
lamb of the slaughter. He's done traded away I mean,
or the coach.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
The history is very dense that way, and everybody will
tell you one thing or another, but you look back
far enough away and it's pretty obvious what Lebron does
and how they operate.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Luca is a bigger like he's like you think Lebron thinks.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
That, well, I think Lebron knows that he's the future
of the Lakers. I mean, he's twenty five years old.
The Lakers brought him in so they could beat so
Luka Doncic jerseys will be sold seven years from now.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
You know that's not going to be Lebron.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
So he's not Lebron's no longer in charge, he's no
longer the future. And what interested me about it is
and you know, I mean, I'm with you, LeVar, it's
really convoluted. You know, the trade came out and some
people said, oh, Lebron went and got a d or
oh my god, Lebron didn't know about this. You got
Shamsherania doused in drakarn war. God that guy smells and man,
(40:56):
that guy loan, Yes, have you around him twice? And
it was enough to know it was like, the only
person that wears more Colone than Sharani is freaking Wayne Newton.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Oh, I don't know, a chopper wears a lot of Colone.
If my dad ever gave you a hug, you're good
for the rest of the day. You got your colone
on for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
But the only indicator I have, you know, beyond the
obvious stuff that we all read and you know, glean
from behind the scenes, is the people I know that
are quote unquote close with Lebron or livid about this,
livid about it at first, and oh well, why would Luca.
You know, there's Luca's got problems. He's fat, he's drunk.
(41:37):
It's like, yes, so what you know, you're describing the
whole NBA for thirty years. You know those guys were
fat and drunk. They eat three hot dogs on a
commercial flight, drank five or six Miller lights and go
out there. Yeah, play forty minutes and kick ass and
fight with Robert Parrish up. Yeah, I mean that used
to do.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
It, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So chief a punch you in the mouth now, I
love that.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
So to me, you know, it's it signals a change,
and Lebron's doing it now.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
You know, he's trying to be the nice.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Guy like, oh look I'm cool, and that won't last.
He's he can't exist without the attention. It's it's it's
oxygen to him and the control.
Speaker 6 (42:18):
It seems to be that way too. So we'll see
how it plays out.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
But the most exciting prospect for me, not even really
being a Laker fan, but just covering sports in LA
for decades now, is that it's not going to be
the Lebron show anymore. The first person you're going to
think about is Luca.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Now, how long does that take to happen.
Speaker 6 (42:36):
It's happened.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
It's already happened.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Yeah, it's happened. It's over. I mean, that's you brought in.
And the thing what people don't understand about Luka Doncics.
And I'm not gonna sit here and tell you you
know exactly who he is or who he isn't in
the in the word you used earlier the annals of
basketball history.
Speaker 6 (42:55):
But what I would say is.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
This, the guy was the Rookie of the Year and
then he went five times First Team All NBA. And
that's him and four other guys. That's and no one's
ever done that, No one Magic Jordan, no one's ever
done that. No one's ever been that impactful entering the
league and that good consistently for five years. And it's
not like he fell off and he's drunk. The guy
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was in the finals last year and he's drunk. So
I had to take the can off of him. Michael Finlan,
that's that was the beginning of the end. Though, when
you snatch a beer from the guy on camera and
and embarrass the guy, I mean, you know, I don't
know what he's like behind the scenes, and probably was
a nightmare, but.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
That was last year though that's not and that's not
this year. It feels like a different time, you know,
like beer's back drinking in public and I feel like
it's okay.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I mean now it is, and I feel like it
wasn't last year. It feels like it's okay. Now what
if he had a forty that would have been so
again last year, last year, This year, I think being
okay if it's it can if it's a forty ounce.
I'm just saying, if it had a brown paper bag
on it, I think that that's all the way.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
Laugh.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
I think done.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
That's so much to put, like a gatorade bottle on
a brown paper bag. See if it one freaks out
about it. But I just I feel like it feels
more like guys being dudes is still, like it's more
of a thing again.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
It wasn't last year. It's more of a thing now.
Petros Well, you have that Gronkowski podcast. You know, is
Julian ed Edelman a dude or a dog? I don't know?
Speaker 6 (44:31):
Is that podcast.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
That I can't keep track? Like the podcasts that people
have and and I have no idea who listens to them?
Like I anyway, I can't. Hey, Petros advertise all of
them too, and.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
It's Petros is somebody who that's right, Petros is somebody
who you know knows Los Angeles and the surrounding areas.
Where would you recommend a guy like Luca, who you know,
likes a lung darter or two, likes to drink, not
really work out, Like, where's a good hangout spot for
him around town?
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Well? They all, I mean they all just moved to
Manhattan Beach because of the proximity to the training facility
in El Segunda, Southbro. Yeah, well, yeah, baby, what people
when people say the South Bay and Los Angeles, they
think of like one town or two, Manhattan Beach and
Hermosa Beach, which are really afterthoughts. I mean, the South
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Bay is is the freaking Harbor in Wilmington and a
bunch of other towns that people don't recognize as the
South Bay because they're white and stupid.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
But it's pretty browie though, I mean, how would you
describe to South Bay Bro.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
I would say it's less browie than Orange County, you know,
but those those these towns have dramatically changed just in
the last twenty five years.
Speaker 6 (45:57):
Like when I was a kid. Uh And in college.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Hermosa Beach was was a counterculture town with a weird
feeder that played rocky horror, and you know, that's where
like all the bands like Pennywise and Black Flag had
a bunch of history and it was a weirdo town
with rent control and heroin and uh. But there were
a lot of families and and you know, kind of
a sleepy beach town. And that's changed and Manhattan Beach
(46:24):
has become you know, a place where you pay eight
million dollars for your house. You wake up and you
look out your window and two inches away next door,
you're watching some guy from the King's blow it out
on the toilet lap, you know, yeah, And they're like,
you know, you're like, well, what my house costs eight
million dollars? Where's my backyard?
Speaker 6 (46:42):
And they're like, no, no, Well the beach is your backyard, sir.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
And it's like, oh, okay, well I was on the
backyard and it's being used as an ash tray and
a brothel and a bunch of other things.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
You know.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
I mean it's a public beach, for God's sakes, So
on the beach, well, I.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Mean a lot of stuff be happening each if you
go out, really you go to the bar and then
you go out to the beach.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Hey, LaVar, you live close to there, don't you. Yeah,
I live right next to the whole pee.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I was just gonna say, man.
Speaker 6 (47:11):
You might get a better to Redondo Beach.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
Looking I'm close to Redondo Beach, which is a beach
that I still like, because Redondo Beach is much like
the old South Bay that I grew up, and it's
too far from the freeway for the new school douchebags
like Luka Doncic and his Slovene mafia. They're all going
to be, you know, twenty minutes down PCH or up
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PCH toward the airport. So anyway, he will live in
Manhattan Beach, I'm quite sure, especially I don't know, especially
with the drinking, you know, because with the drinking, you know,
it's a good drink city.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
You can you know, you can get around quickly with
ubers and stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
I've never seen Lakers out in Manhattan Beach. Like I
eat at Bills all the time too, I never see them.
They've blend in so Uncle Bill all the time.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
You see the Papaacas to havever in a plate on
the wall from my dad's rest.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
I've seen that, you know me, he's there for breakfast. Pats,
I should get chocolate, She panics.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
My podcast. Kids to school, dang gases. Go in there,
wake them up, come back. Thirty minutes later, they're still
in bed.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Are you are the surfers still whooping the asses of
of Like, you know, that's overcomers.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
That's you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
Well, there's localism at every beach, but uh, you're talking
about Lenada Bay, which is one of the big, biggest
Uh well, not always that way, but when it's going,
it's one of the great surf spots and the history
of the world.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
You don't come there, if you a't from here, don't
ever come around here.
Speaker 6 (48:50):
Yeah, it's worse than that.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
I mean, these the Bay boys are well now they're
like sixty year old guys and their kids are the
Bay Boys. But they are like, you know, trust fund guys.
You know, my father invented plastic on this and that
we're talking about some of the biggest, most beautiful. This
that's over where Lincoln Riley lives and his house is
about twenty million dollar house. And if Lincoln Riley paddled
(49:15):
out there, they'd probably poop on his the hood of
his car. They slash tires of pro surfers and all
kinds of stuff. But there's been a bunch of articles
written in international publications like The Guardian and stuff about
how bad the Bay Boys are. And I think they
finally made the city do a bunch of stuff so
(49:36):
they didn't have to pay a bunch of money in
a class action lawsuit. So they took down the Bay
Boys little self built bunker down there, like a little
surf shed.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
They made them dismantle that. I think they built a
shower down there, by the.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Way I'm looking at it here. In twenty sixteen, Newsweek
called the Lenada Bay Boys quote America's most notorious surf gang.
Guess it's like real life point break crips, bloods and
and the Bay Boys take.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
It relaxed war child. But I mean we're not talking
about like scary looking people. I mean we're talking about
they're the worst.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
They're the worst. They're the worst ones.
Speaker 6 (50:19):
Though, Yeah, they're the worst.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
They're the worst ones.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Would be a waste of time.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
That's Blake and his father owns three hundred Burger Kings.
Speaker 5 (50:31):
So you're saying these guys have no relation to the
Island Boys, like those guys.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Right boys Island?
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, what are those junkies up to?
Speaker 6 (50:41):
The Island boys? The Island boys are really falling off?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
They do you think ye that they ever really want?
What were they to fall off?
Speaker 4 (50:51):
They reached a great pinnacle of fame for a short
moment the Island.
Speaker 5 (51:01):
So was that like one of the like like Petros?
Did that ever make you look at today's dan age
and go, what the hell is going on? When these
guys are popular or at least go viral? Does that
not make you question everything about life at that point?
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Oh so much in the world happens that makes me
question everything about life at every point. But uh no,
I just think any Awards show you watch nowadays, you
watch that and you're just like, God, this sucks, you know.
I mean, I got nothing against Kendrick Lamar. You know
that was all right?
Speaker 2 (51:36):
It sucked.
Speaker 6 (51:37):
I mean, I don't know, it's a.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
I get offended when they try to appeal super widely too, though.
You know it's like we got Aerosmith and Britney Spears
and the Blues Brothers, you know, and here's Little John's
you know what they you know, like they used to
do that in the Super Bowl, like, you know, throw
like twenty acts out there at least, you know, if
there's one act a lot of people like or don't like,
(52:02):
let them do that.
Speaker 6 (52:03):
Let them do their act and let everybody be polarized.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
But I guess I would prefer that too, you know,
throwing every like all the spaghetti at the wall and
trying to make it stick.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Well, it's been so many theories coming out of that
that show, you know, so many profound theories and so
many profiles.
Speaker 5 (52:21):
I mean, just you know, I mean, it's bottom I
just I want to know because like I've not heard
anyone really break down.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
That's what That's what I'm saying. That's everybody's discussing theories though.
That's like everybody's him pointing out where society and culture
is hitting. But that's what art's supposed to do, the
Hunger Games or or not the Hunger Games, the Squid
Games and stuff like that, to show it, like everything
strategically plays to show like a you know, like a but.
Speaker 6 (52:51):
That's what art's supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
It's to shine a light. Man.
Speaker 6 (52:55):
People think about it.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
A lot of great artists will refuse to explain their
work and want people to interpret it. From how I
understand Kendrick Lamar, though I'm not a modern hip hop guy,
is that he's much more thoughtful and puts a lot thoughtful. Dude, Yeah,
he does more. He puts a lot more into it
than Thomas in the corner.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
That's very little to no thought, by the way, that's
that's Chad Gps.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
The guy did perform at halftime and the Lions lost
that game.
Speaker 4 (53:25):
So, guys, the toughest gangs in l A by far
are not in the city and they're not on the beach.
Speaker 6 (53:31):
They're at Disneyland.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
Damn right are they? Oh yeah, with the Disney gangs
like Pinocchio's Crew or whatever. Really, oh yeah, the real boys.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Lorraine is part of one of them gangs.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
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