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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a coupled Joe
with Lamar airings, Rady Win and Jonas Knox on four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
What Up Stix, Good morning Man, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Something Really something bothers me about yesterday. I don't know
what you know, I was thinking about when I mentioned
March twenty seventh being the Penn State Pro Day, And
there's there's something or not the pro Day.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
It was being the uh Blue White Weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, the spring game.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
There's something about that day that I know we talked
about in reference to Penn State, but I cannot figure
it out, and it still bothers me. I don't know
what it is. It's really pissing me off. But something
is happening in Penn State on March twenty seventh that
I know we talked about.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Apparently twenty seventh. I can't. I can't figure it out.
It's third.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I can't help you, Yeah, because I don't. I don't
know of a date from March twenty seventh for Penn State.
I just I do know. Even though Q was a
hater and wanted to talk about a wrestler at a
different school March, right now it belongs to Penn State Wrestling.
You know that's that's kind of March twenty first, twenty second,
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twenty third, twenty fourth, twenty fifth, twenty sixth, whatever day
you want to talk about. You know, it's a we
are month for Penn State Wrestling. We've done something that
has never been done before, and that's pretty pretty proud
about that, man, pretty proud about it. We got you know,
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I know, you know, everybody is like all about oh,
Cinderilla is dude, and uh well in ail money has
changed everything, and they're probably right, but you know, we
got an il money you know from bj who from
West Shore Homes put money into our stadium fifty million. Yeah,
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you know, he showed love to his alma mater, So
maybe that's what you're thinking. You know, I don't know.
I got my Niitney Lion shirt on. I mean, there
you go. I got a Nidney line top on the day.
I don't really know what March twenty fourth is for you.
I could, I could tell you. It's interesting. There's a
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person that I really don't like that was born on
that day. March twenty seventh, okay, twenty seventh, Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Don't know who, don't you like it was born.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I'll tell you off it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Damn, I'll tell you now, speaking of speaking of.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Speaking of Penn State, you know, Abdual Carter very confident,
very confident about being the number one pick. He should
be draft, he should, he said on social media yesterday.
Don't let all this QB need talk for y'all. It's
already known who's the best and no quarterback is in
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that discussion. Like I said, the best player goes number one.
Generational Remember, I mean.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
He's grade at high as high as Miles Garrett. He's great.
He's like, his grade is that high. It's high. And
when you hear him say that, regardless of what happens
in real life, Jonas, he's got a very very strong point.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
It's a very valid point.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
And the point that he's making that I think people
have to be very aware of is the quarterback. The
two top quarterbacks, even the three top quarterback prospects that
are are out there, they don't grade as as high
as a generational talent.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Here's the dilemma. The dilemma you have is do you
look at the amount of talent that cam because it's
cam Ward, do you look at Cam Ward, and you
say his talent is worth using a number one overall
draft pick. Is his talent so undeniable? Is his grade
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and his rating as a quarterback? Is it so high
that we're going to use a pick that is very
elusive for a lot of teams. And when you get
that opportunity to have number one, you're generally using it
on a what would be perceived as a can't miss prospect.
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I'd ask you the same question, or I throw this
question and pose.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It to you.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Look at cam Ward or Shador Sanders or Jackson Dark.
Do you look at any of these three QB prospects
and say that they are can't miss grade graded quarterbacks
at their position?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
No?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
No, it is it enough.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's not what last year was.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It wasn't Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, that whole crop of QB's.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's not that type of prospect.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
So if it's not a franchise changing talent, if it's
not a prospect that grades out high enough and their
ceiling is high enough where you say this is a
guy that can change our franchise at the number one pick,
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I would say you either, if if you're really looking
for quarterback. I would wouldn't you think maybe you trade
out of the one pick and try to build draft capital.
I mean, if I'm the Tennessee Titans, I mean I don't.
I don't have their their draft, their draft board. I
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don't know how many draft picks they have, but you
could probably get some, you know, some decent compensation for
a number one pick.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
And so I wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I wouldn't take I wouldn't take a quarterback at now.
I would not take a player at number one if
they did not grade out as a as a bona
fide generational talent, especially at the quarterback's position.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
This is where the conversation because when you talk to
enough people who have either scouted or have been in
these war rooms or these draft rooms, like like I've
talked to Bucky Brooks about this when we did shows together,
and at a certain point, it's best player available.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Like that's like, okay, so who you take those?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
And so you get to a point to where it's like,
all right, best player available. But then there is a
reality to well, there's a need. And I think if
the Titans looked at it and said, all right, best
player available, it's probably Abdul Carter.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
But they're saying this and we haven't even had their
pro day, And let me look up the pro day
because maybe that's what you might have been referencing. I
don't know at this point, but the point is is
that he hasn't even had his pro day.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yet because and that's where I think the conversation gets
split to where certain teams can be in a position
to take best player available and other teams although that
would be ideal, like you do have a need and
Tennessee isn't a spot where they need a quarterback. And
I think that's where they're having this split conversation about
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best player available or like it's a it's basically a rap.
I mean, if you believe all of the conversations the
draft odds, it's basically a rap that Tennessee's gonna take
cam Ward with the number one pick. That's where everything
has been skewed, all the reporting, all of that. Cam
Ward actually spoke with NFL Network yesterday because he had
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his pro day, and he gave a little shout out
to the Titans who were in attendance. They all went
out to dinner before his pro day over the weekend
and here was the Miami quarterback trying to sell himself
at number one to Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I said, I'm solidifying today.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
They heard.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Me, so I guess all that tip. The Titans obviously
have the number one overall pick. They like you, they've
had you in the building. What did you want to
show them today.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
I'll say, only show number every other team. Just thrown
a rhythm with his three steps on rhythm, five steps
on rhythm for under in the gun, heavy play action,
you know, gun five with movement outside of the pockets.
Just showing them all you know under center stuff that
I didn't get to show as much during the season.
Let it know that I'm capable of it, because the
end of the day, the NFL is not playing on
the center all the time. They're in the gun. But
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you gotta be able to do it. And so that
was the main focus for me. And then other th
that is just making it all a boy my receiver
trying to throw them catch with balls. But Shure and
I have bass at the ground. We had a couple,
but the end of the day, you ain't gonna be perfect.
You always got stuff to get better.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
So that was cam Ward very well spoke very very handled,
very well.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I like cam Ward and I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I don't want this to turn into a conversation where
it's kind of an indictment against cam Ward in terms
of being, you know, considered the number one overall guy
to be drafted.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I just don't. I'd say at dual Carter.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
On his day will either solidify that he's the number
one draft pick or he will open that door to
the discussion. And the only reason why I say that
is is because coming out of the combine, obviously the
X ray showed that he had that some type of
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a stress fracture or whatever it was in his foot
that they found, and he did not participate, and so
and I don't know how he was looked as though
maybe I don't know, I could be wrong. I don't
want to speculate anything, but his pro day will be very,
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very vital and very important.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
To how he is, how he is viewed.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
If if he screws the pooch, so to speak, and
doesn't have as an impressive showing and what it is
that he's doing, that could go a long way. I
think in terms of that impression of do you do
you buck against what conventional wisdom tells you to do,
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which is if he tests well. I'm sure he interviewed
well at at the Combine. So these coaches already have
and these these gms and front office people, they already
have an idea of who Abdul is as a person
and even maybe his uh, his his understanding of the game.
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But they will go into more detail at a pro day.
They will look at film more so than what they
would have done at the Combine. There will be more
aspects of what the interaction is and what the measurement
and the weighing of a prospect is at the pro day.
So Abduaul Carter to me, has the opportunity to solidify
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who he is as the prospect. And I think if
he if he puts up the numbers that I think
he's going to put up, because I think he's going
to do well in the forty, which we we always
do well historically speaking, we're just really good at running forties.
So if he puts up a four to four, I
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know he wants to run a four to three. But
if he if he puts up a four to four
time in the.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Forty at two fifty four to three. Uh, you do
know Micah ran a four to three.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
That is preposterous or three.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
If if he runs a four three, he can walk
out of he can walk out of a luba.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
If he runs a four, he.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Should leave there and go straight to two ten and
start drinking. If that is a wrap.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
If he if he runs a four to four, I
think it still should be considered that because I do
believe he's going to run a four to four at worst.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I think he's going to run a four fourth.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
That's a freak show. That's a freak show. That's a
freak show.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, that's that's why I think it. You know, if
you're if you're asking Tennessee best player and need, I
think it's two different conversations.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
It is two different conversations. But with that being said,
the again, the dilemma that Tennessee is in is that
at picking at number one, you can't you can't give
way or you can't succumb to saying that our biggest
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need is quarterback. If the best prospect in the draft
is not a quarterback, I don't. I think that's the
biggest dilemma. And and so to me, if you have
a guy that is projected and considered to be a
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guy who has graded as high, just as high as
Miles Garrett coming out in the draft. I just don't
see how you can waste because I gotta believe that's
a wasted pick if you're not taking a guy who
has graded that high because your need says you have
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to get a quarterback. I just if that is the case,
then trade out of the pick because I don't think
you take a quarterback. And again, this is not an
indictment against cam Ward. I just don't think that. I
don't think the quarterback's grade so high in this draft
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that you spend a first first pick.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
In fact, I don't think you spend the second pick,
to be honest, and I know that that's like kind
of you know what's floating around.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't. I don't know, man, I don't know what.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Pick is the pick where you say this is the
right pick to go get a quarterback. But if I'm
being honest, what top three? I think there are better
prospects out there for those first three picks. Then to
take a quarterback out of this quarterbacks draft class, I mean, respectful, like.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
You would look at Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, Like, those
are those.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Are the first two names that are going to jump
out at you. Those are the first two. That's a
lock that you're getting a game changing player with your
draft pick, and that's what you want.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I also look at it and go all right, So
if it is a foregone conclusion that listen, Abdul may
be the best prospect, but you know they're probably going
to take cam Ward one if they're Tennessee. Now you
look at it and go all right, Well, everything would
indicate that Cleveland would take Abdul Carter at two, and
so to have him and Miles care.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Like, hey, listen to the quarterback situation. That's a whole
nother conversation. Getting after the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Though, you won't have a problem.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, Cleveland's on another level. You will not have a
problem there.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
I am and if that's what happens, that's what happens.
But I just think it's hard. It's hard to justify
how you would pass up a prospect that grades out
that high for a prospect that does not grade out
that high.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I just don't that.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Again, even if it's by need, you do have quarterbacks
on your roster, and I just don't I wouldn't want
to miss on a number one. I wouldn't want to
miss on a one. You go get a guy at
number one and he's no different than, I don't know,
than the quarterback you already have on roster, if he
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doesn't grade out where he's any better than the quarterback
that you you already have on your roster, which some
people are sitting there, if they're listening, they're like, cam
Ward is clearly better than will Levis?
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Maybe so, but.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Is cam Ward clearly better than will Levis as a
pro today? Or what's your projection of what cam Ward
how good cam Ward will be? Because if you're spending
a number one overall pick, you're saying that this guy
is coming in and he's bonafide better than the guy
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you have at that starting position day one. That's what
you're saying, and that's what you're banking on, and that's
what you're investing in. Is that the case here is
can Ward better than Will Levis day one going to
the Tennessee Titans. If you can't answer that question, yes,
and you have a talent that grades out as high
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as Miles Garrett did, Like I hope people are understanding
that there hasn't been a guy who has graded out
remotely close to what Miles Garrett graded out coming out
in the draft. If you have a guy that grades
out that high, if I said to you, you have
the potential to get a MOUs Garrett talent with your pick,
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or you have the potential of getting a I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It's an unknown.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
I would say, taking any one of these quarterbacks and
wondering if they can be that guy day one, it's
an unknown. Which one are you going which which which
which are you going to spend a number one draft
pick on? I think it's and that's if I'm Abdul
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Carter and I'm you know, obviously his agents, I'm sitting there,
and that's how I feel about That's how I feel
about everything. Go into your your pro day, do what
you need to do in your pro day, and understand
that all you can do is really hurt yourself in
your pro day if you're not prepared properly to perform
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the way you're supposed to perform, because you've already pretty
much solidified that you grade out with the things that
you do on film that you're grading out as high
as one of the best defensive ends.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
In the game right now, Well, the pro day is.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
On Friday for as the hard so he'll get an
opportunity to show out in Stay Callede. You get to
be there for that. You're gonna head out to Stay
Callege for the pro air.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Now, No, I won't be there, Okay, I mean LeVar
Arrington will be there. Oh yeah, this one.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
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Speaker 2 (19:54):
I did want to ask you this though, what do
you want to ask?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
So this is sort of an angle to this whole
thing that that I thought was kind of interesting. We
were talking about the cam Ward discussion.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
The odds would.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Say cam Ward is going to go number one overall
to the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
He had his Pro day yesterday and it was.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Mentioned, according to NFL reporter Paul Kaharski, that the Titans
and other members of the organization had dinner with cam
Ward over the weekend ahead of his Pro day. Right,
So what would have to happen at a dinner for
you to be like out, can't can't do this, guy,
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can't do this? Like what what happens at a dinner
where you're like, f this, that's disgusting or that's out
of line, or I got to distance myself from that
guy because of the way he behaved at dinner.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Is there a certain thing that's a pet peeks a
long shot for somebody to be that repulsive or you know,
turn somebody off that much at a at a dinner
where you're clearly wanting to get to know the prospect better,
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and the prospect has the opportunity to to show that
you know, they can they can bring a value. I mean, what.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Uh be be?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
You know, do lude acts to the person serving your table,
you know, slap them on ass or something like that,
or you know like spit your spit your bones on
the floor and even then I don't even know that
that's bad enough.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
By the way, could you imagine if like cam Ward's like, man,
I don't want to go to the Titans. He's at
dinner and he just decides he's gonna grab some guy's
ass when he walks by some bus boy.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
They might get I mean, they might get pumped up like, oh,
he's encouraging the bus boy, you know, like hey, good play,
like wait to grab that plate? Like I don't, I
don't know. I think you would have to be over
the top just it would have to be bad jonah, right, So.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Like?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
What would be a all right?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
This is not because I was thinking about it. I
think what would like if I had like a plate
of fries, Yeah, and somebody just reached over and put
their hand in my plate of fries and pulled out
some fries and started eating it without even asking.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
That would bother me?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Off a plate or a uh you know, a la
carte type of a family style, no off.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Bowl of fries even though they're your fries.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Off my pluff.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
You're like, if it if it's obvious that these are
my fries, Like you could say, hey, can I have
a fry?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No problem here.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But if they just reached over and put there and
there's something about putting the whole sweaty, dirty, gross hand.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Would you have a sweaty, dirty hand out to dinner
at a nice place to eat? I mean, are they
at a burger shack? Like, did they just leave the
you know, the workout, Because if that's the case, then
you know people share things like that at burger shacks
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
It's meant to share your fries.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, but I'm talking about like sweaty, warm, disgusting, filthy hands.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Why would y'all, why would y'all be out eating if
that's how sweaty and filthy he was?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Wow, I'm playing out.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I hate to be judging you hypothetically.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I need to be judging you the organization for even
not allowing me to have the opportunity to clean myself up.
Because it's a it's a business, and it's a job interview.
Why would you not give me the proper opportunity to
clean myself up.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
There's a bathroom right over there, go wash your hands.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Oh, come on, man, slob, come on man. Oh, I'm
just entertaining you. But you know, you, of all you,
of all people.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
If I wash my hands, I know, but if somebody,
if somebody's got a sweaty palm, you know that bothers.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I don't like that at all.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
I'm not going to judge.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
But I'm not going to judge them because they have
a moisture saturated hand. I'm just I just you know,
I just don't like shaking sweaty palm hands.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Okay, now now let me ask you, all right, So,
because we can go down the road of grooming and
like you know, body odor and things like that, but
is there a is there something that they could eat
in front of you that you would be like, I'm out, Like,
I can't, I can't be a part of this.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
No, because I'm not judging them based off of that.
I'm judging them based off of what they bring to
our team. Can can we win games with this guy
on our team? Now, you are going to take into
consideration characteristic traits, how they speak to people, how they
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treat things, because that's ultimately going act to how they
process things and how they execute things that that translates
to the field. So you're gonna look at how he's
speaking and how he's doing things. And we heard cam
Ward's interview. We did a SoundBite in the first segment.
He's well spoken. He's well spoken. Uh, he's thoughtful, and
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that's not cam Ward's not going to mess up his
opportunity to get drafted off of a team.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Dinner, Lee, what were your you said ketchup.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Now, Lee could come on, he could probably give you
some good stuff.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
Well, I can think of a few things that you
could do at a dinner to screw it all up
for what you've done well, that anyone could do, but
not that necessarily not, but that you've done well.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Here's one.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
I would never have put my stake in ketchup. But
if all of a sudden, you know, this quarterback prospects
putting just putting, just dousing his steak in ketchup, that'd
be a red flag right there.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Okay, but what if the steak sucks, well, then put
some some I don't care.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
I don't care if it's a five star restaurant with
extra credit. If that man wants to put ketch up
on his steak, what like, that's you're gonna you're saying
that's a rip?
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Why is that a red flag?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
You know?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I think he's got some character issues.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
What if all of a sudden, you know, we're worried
about his weight and he's putting down just breadstick after breadstick,
can't control himself.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, but if he's you know, finishing a fast, you
know he can get away with that.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
How about how he handles his booze. Maybe he's ordering
a little too much. Maybe uh, and maybe that steak
goes through him a little too quick. Maybe he's just
letting him rip left and right at the at the
dinner table.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
It sounds like you're talking about yourself project.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I'm just I don't know if you could ruin it
or not.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
That is that if if a guy is so irresponsible
that he's actually going to have beverages with alcohol in them,
then nature played its course. I would never I would
never drink with somebody that I'm job interviewing with.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
I wouldn't get a drink at all.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
So so the thing about it is, though, that's still
is not that's still not like that's a red flag.
If he gets a glass of red wine or something. Sure,
if the dude gets drunk, like straight faded at the
table and he's out with the team, of course, that's
I mean, we could throw out the most egregious stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Go ahead, Joe, I got one. All right.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Now I'm gonna paint the picture for you. Oh god,
all right, You're sitting at dinner, things are going.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, and a white woman comes up and sits with.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Yeah, you're not taking this guy.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
What way to make it unrealistic to the show, But.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
So imagine this. You're having an interview. You're sitting there
at the table. You know things are going well, you
know dinner's about to wrap up, and all of a sudden,
you notice that this prospect is looking around for something.
He's looking around you can't find. Oh, he sees eight,
can I grab that? Reaches over, takes the straw out
of your water, folds the tip of the straw, and
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starts picking out a giant chunk of food from his
teeth in front of you while talking with yes, and
then flicks it to where you can see the food
projectile a La kingpin into the bathroom mirror and land
on the table, and then continue the conversation as if
nothing happened. You LeVar Arrington, who have a weak stomach,
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You tell me, I would.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Gag, but that wouldn't be enough for me. I just
would never go out to eat with him. I would gage.
I would gag.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
If it hit me, if the if the food particle hit, yeah,
I might, it might come out.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I might. I vomit right there.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
You imagine that, like it just just like a like
a two centimeter wide piece of ribbie just hits you
right in.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
The cheek that that would be revolting.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I trade out of the pick. I literally would trade.
I'd call somebody and say, I don't care what you got,
send me a bag of footballs and uh and and
a and a pack of rolled golds and take the pick.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I would trade out of the pick immediately. Other than
that he's gonna go.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I think it'd takes some very very I would give
me some very extreme things that would have to take
place for a dinner with a prospect to turn off.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
By the way, nothing makes me laugh more on this
show than when you actually gag when we have conversations
about stuff because it's legit'.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That's not something I play around. That's definitely not.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
For fake.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
All.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
It'd be very hard for a dinner to ruin a
prospects chances. If he's a top top prospect, he didn't
ruin his chances of going number one. Now he probably
could improve them. He could improve them because if you
if people get smitten with you, then that could probably
make a difference. But it's still I would still say
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it's kind of it's that's that's just more like formalities
of what's taking place in the process. It's not like, yeah,
you're getting to know them. You get an opportunity to
sit down with them. You could turn them off or
you could turn them on with with how you are.
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But but it would take a whole lot to turn
them off to wanting to draft you, if they indeed
were high on wanting to draft you.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Did you have a pre draft dinners with.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Anybody predraft dinner? I did, So I did a couple visits.
I went and I visited Cleveland, I visited Washington.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
I don't recall. I don't recall all the things I did.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I mean, it's been too long, but I certainly had
an opportunity to sit down with the decision makers. They
also had players like I remember Irving Fryar was in
one of the meetings that you know, I took part of.
So they were measuring and they was gauging, you know,
who I was as a person, and you know what
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my belief system was.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Am I going to be a problem?
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Like they just flat out asked me, like, are you
going to be a problem to us?
Speaker 4 (31:57):
And stuff like that, and.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
I'm like, you know, I don't understand what type of
a question that is.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know, what do you mean? Am I going to
be a problem to you?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
I don't what would what what about me made you
ask that question? So I kind of felt like, I,
you know, like you offended me. You know I'm a prospect,
but you kind of offended me. Like I come from
a strong family, a two parent home. My father served
our country. Now he's a minister or ordained minister in
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a Christian church.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
We're as.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
We're we're as solid as it gets as a as
an American family. And you're asking me, am I going
to be a problem? Like what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Like?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I honor my parents, I get up, I go to work.
I'm not I'm not late for anything. There's there's no
there's no history of me doing things that I get
in trouble or anything. So I don't underderstand what you
mean by asking me, am I going to be a
problem to you? You know, so when people say certain things,
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I feel like, you know, it could go one way
or the other, and it could be handled in certain ways.
I'm not like this militant dude, right, Like it could
have easily been a racial thing. You know, I could
have made I could have made it a racial thing.
They could have made it a racial thing, and that
generally seems to be like the hot button way of
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getting things popping is if you make it, you know,
give it racial undertones, like like what you think I'm
a gangbanger? You know, like like what what? What exactly?
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
What are you getting at? What are you hinting at
by asking me these questions? But I think if you
just you handle yourself in a way that you're who.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
You are, you be true to who you are.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
You know, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I didn't go into any of those those meetings that
I had with any of those coaches and and act
as though I was like on my best behaldhavior because
I was there. I was just who I was, because
I felt like me being who I was is the
reason why I'm here in the first place. So why
am I going to be somebody different now? So I go,
I'm supposed to come walk in. Hey, everybody, how are
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you doing? Is everything okay?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Great?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I'm so happy to be here. Like that's not how
I am. Wait, say, is that your white voice? That's
just my like cornball voice.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
I don't think it connected to it, is just I'm
being a cornball, and I don't think being that's.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
If being a cornball is your deal, then be a comb.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I'm just I just didn't happen to be one. I
don't happen to be a cornball. That wasn't my approach.
So if the way I was turned you off to
me as a person, I mean, I'm not for everybody, right,
I would say that about anybody. You're not for everybody.
Plus I played football, Like I'm interviewing you for a
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job to play football, Like, what exactly are you looking for?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
How difficult is this.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
This business meeting going to be? I gave you all
my like you have all my film, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Like, what is this?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Like?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
What am I going to do to really really mess
this up?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
You could? You could mess it up. You could.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'm not saying you can't mess it up.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
But I think it's more so you can more solidify
much more than it just being something something that you
mess up. Like you could come in and your clothes
could be all like ratty or something like that. They're
not going to judge you off of how you're dressed.
It's like, oh, he just doesn't have much or you
know whatever, their conclusion may be it'll take a lot
for you to turn off a franchise, you know, in
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those moments, because they're already very high on you.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
The first time I met my wife's family, so we
had died, We've been dating for a little not too long,
and she just said, you know, hey, do you want
to meet you know, my family? Well, yeah, what's going on?
She like, Oh, we're having a King Signetta for my cousin.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
I didn't know anything about those until I moved to California.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
And I was like, okay, so which is for you know.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
But not not Kensignias.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, I mean it's every week, especially right now is
Kensignetta season. It feels like so basically what it is is,
you know, fifteen year old's birthday and it's a.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Big celebration, like a huge, huge celebration.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
And so I said, uh sure, And back in my mind,
I'm thinking they're probably thinking of themselves. There's no way
that this white guy is going to walk into that
room and not be intimidated. And I literally just walked
in there like f it, what do I get to lose?
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Get in there, meet everybody, don't remember anybody's name. There's
forty eight hundred cousins.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
I was about to say something horribly bad, like you're
just like, you're meeting so many people, and it's a
giant room, a giant ballroom that had were flow seating
because there were so many people there.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And so at one point I get up to use.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
The bat guarantee you you could have took a guess
and you would have been you might have hit at
some point, you might have hit, but go ahead, good.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
See.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
So I get up at one point to use the bathroom,
and I as I walk into the bathroom, the Mariachi
are at the urinal and one of the Mariachi members
right as I walk in the bathroom pants, No, he pants.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Is the other guy.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
So my first meeting with my wife's family was seeing
some Marriacchi guys ass while he's standing in front of
the urinal cake and his buddy turns around and goes.
Speaker 9 (37:39):
Well so si so Sai. I said, hey, no problem,
just locked the door. But it's like, no problem, And
I came back.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And I.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Told him.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I came back and told my my wife.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
You know a girl I was dating at the time, like, hey, uh,
Marriotti's getting after it. She goes, what do you mean,
and she was mor five like that, Oh my god,
there's no like, he's not going to come back for more.
And at that point I just realized, well, if that's
how it is, I'm gonna fit right in.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And so we were off and running, but nothing happened.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
For them to scare away or be scared away from
taking me number one.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Overall in the draft, you should always put your best
foot forward.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Don't put your best foot forward.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
It's a job interview, so I don't want people to
interpret what I'm saying is you do what you want
to do and you're going to get rewarded for it.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
You asked me to question, what could a person do
to take themselves out of being in consideration for the fact.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Yeah, I mean, you could show tendencies of a killer.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
You could show tendency of a deviant, you know, you
name it, fill in the blank. You could say and
do things that go so far against the grain of
what a normal, logical, sensible person would say or do,
and it could be a tremendous turn off to them,
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and that will play a part. But will that be
the reason why they wouldn't draft you. I don't know.
I don't know that. I don't know. Well, it's a
hard one to answer. I think they already have an
idea who they want to draft. I just think that
they're still continuing to kind of measure out, you know,
and collect information. A lot of this is collecting information.
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You may have an opportunity to trade for them or
or pick them up as a free agent later on.
So there's a lot more to it than just if
you're going to take the person with the draft pick.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
That you have.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
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Let's make history and na, would you rather your random topics,
sports or otherwise?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
All right, so we have not done this in a
long ass time. Lead to lap.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
What do we got random? Sports or otherwise? That is
indeed the theme today. Well, we've got MLB Opening Day
on Thursday long with the Sweet sixteen tipping off, and
the draft is right around the corner. Would you rather
attend MLB Opening Day of your favorite team? Sweet sixteen
or the Draft in green.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Bay Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Ooh, I do the other two. I do the Draft.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I haven't been to Green Bay, and I would say
that feels like a fun event.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
And also Opening Day just you know, there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Of games, doesn't have to be Opening Day, but I
would say the draft probably be my pick.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Yeah, there's a little bit of something in the era
on MLB Opening Day though, but I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Draft in green Bay sweet six pretty what's in the air,
just the vibe, you know, booze and food.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Yeah, I've done it. I've done Opening Day for the
Nationals before. It's exciting, but it don't be no whole
lot of people there.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Hey are you like hot dogs?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
I do?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
I love getting a half smoke from from Ben's Chili Bowl, shouts.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Out the Bens. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:22):
Man, that's a mix between a hot dog and uh
what is it?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I forget?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I mean, I just sent you some.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Type of a sausage. I saw what you talk.
Speaker 10 (41:33):
Say your picture of a full smoke, you world half
and half? Sadiel l a street dog or a Chicago dog?
Chicago dog l A street dogs are good dog? What's
what's a d C dog?
Speaker 4 (41:50):
A half smoke.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I mean they just do They just sell them on
a cart. Is it like La where they got these?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Uh? The l A stream dog.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Chili bowl is a you know, it's it's like a
famous place you go to to eat. It's a mix
between a sausage and a and a hot dog though,
and they put chili on it and it's really good.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Man Man Kim and Carlos, this little hot dog cart
out in front of a soldier fields.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
They do Chicago dogs beals meal so good? What else
we got?
Speaker 8 (42:23):
Would you rather never eat meat again or never eat
vegetables again?
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Never eat me say that again? Never eat meat again?
Or never eat vegetables? Never eat meat?
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
I could go with never eat meat, because that means
I could eat I could still eat.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
Fish, right.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Fish doesn't fall into that category shrimp.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
So I'd rather have I go, I go seafood, I
go fish.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
What they call that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
There you go, guys.
Speaker 8 (42:53):
Would you rather drown to death or choke to death?
Jesus Christ, that one's from Loraina.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
What there's a stunner.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
I almost choked to death. I didn't like that experience,
and I almost drowned too. I didn't like that one either,
I'm not I'm not really sure which one.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Well, I just want to be honest. I was choking
on a peanut and then I was thinking. I was like,
I thought drowning would be the worst way to die,
but I enjoy eating so much that if I died
doing something I loved, that would really be the most
tragic thing.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
I don't want to I just I think, like, man, yeah,
I really almost drowned one time, really too.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
We were playing chicken. Is that what it's called chicken fighting?
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Where they get on your shoulders and stuff like that,
and I was underwater and I just couldn't stopped, Like
I don't know, I couldn't get from underneath his legs.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
My brother I was I was holding my brother and it.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Got kind of interesting. They knew I was under there
for too long, and my dad was like.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Get off of him.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
I could hear I was going into I was going
into like the great out, you know, beyond, and then
my dad he finally like jumped off of me, and
I was able to make it.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
But it was bad.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
It was It was a close one. And then a
jolly rancher. I generally don't let my kids eat jolly ranchers,
because I almost choked on a jolly ranch It was
a red one.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Not a bad way to go cherry one. Yeah, I
mean if it was great, that would have sucked.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
They were sticks, well, I like grape. They were sticks
when I was younger, Jolly rancher sticks. You know, you
get them and it was like a long, thin stick.
I like those ones, but then they start making them
into them like.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Little brick stick sticks.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
I don't know which one I want to do though
that those are both very bad.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
That's very bad ways to get up out of it.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
It's an awful thought. I don't want to partake.
Speaker 8 (44:55):
Guys, would you rather hire Dion as your next head coacher?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Brian uh or?
Speaker 4 (45:00):
Right?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Belichick?
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Bill Belichick? Going with Dion Belichick? Jeez, I'll go Belichick.
All right, yeah, I'll go Belichick.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
Would you rather watch only would you rather watch only
Schwarzenegger movies or Stillone movies?
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Oh? Now that's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Stomacho stallone Arnold, come on, yeah, no,