May 4, 2024 • 46 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Draft proves why NFL is king. The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about the Lakers elimination. Saquon Barkley gets booed by Giants/Knicks fans at the Sixers home game. And opposing fans in the stands is good for the NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with lamar As, Rady Win and Jonas Knox on
Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here in a Monday BQ.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Just trying to take in the draft. I mean, it's
there's so many interesting takeaways. Obviously after free agency, now
after the draft. I think every fan out there has
an idea of like where their team's at, their chance
of winning a Super Bowl this year. Obviously a lot
of time until the season starts, but I gotta tell you,
I I kind of fed off some of your enthusiasm
(00:37):
for the draft.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
It's it's such a cool event.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's such a neat experience even to go through it,
but looking back on it now, just it's it's the
most unique draft and an event. I think there is
a professional sports and no one does it better in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And I think the final tally was just under eight
hundred thousand fans. Yeah, ude, because you really do combine
the best of both worlds. If the NFL is king
and college football is second, it's it's the one event
where they're all together at the same time, and you
kind of you kind of mix both those audiences. In
(01:15):
but just the NFL's idea on moving this thing around,
and you know, going from New York and all that,
and I know, you know, you guys like the tradition.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Of New York.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I've always liked the draft because it just gave everybody hope.
They're like, all right, we may have sucked last year,
but you know there's some hope here. And then just
to see what it's turned into when we were in
Vegas for the Draft a couple of years ago. You've
been to a bunch of drafts and it just to
be there and to see what it's turned into from
all these years later, and it just gets bigger and
(01:46):
better every single year. And then next year, if I'm
not mistaking, it's Green Bay, correct, I think it's in
Green Bay next year. So that's going to be that's
going to be pretty wild as well too. So good times,
good times to be had at the Draft. I mean, look,
I just I would appreciate it personally if we could
just skip past the whole international fan of the year
(02:06):
reading the pick for some of these guys. That part
really bothers me. It really bought. It's like these guys
are supposed to take in the moment, the biggest moment
of their career, of their life. They've worked so hard
to get up to this point. They're gonna get their
name called and get drafted, and it's some goofball wearing
(02:28):
all team uniforms. Like they had a guy who was
dressed up in suspenders with a cheese hat on because
he was representing the Packers, some guy from like London
or someplace like that. You got like this other guy,
like representing the Bears, some slob. He comes out there
and like a Jack Sanborn Jersey and he starts reading
off the pick in the fourth round. We give them games,
(02:51):
all right, They get their games, all right, they get
a few a year. We just don't need these guys
walking up there looking like dummies, you know, reading off
these picks because they're half in the bag. I think
it's a bit insulting, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
See, you don't think that's part of them trying to,
you know, spread the game internationally, and that that's part
of their little I don't know, trying to dig in
to spread the game.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It isn't isn't them getting a game enough? Do we
have to reward the fans by getting up there to
read these picks, you know, like somebody's gonna screw something up,
and then it turns into like some professional wrestling event
where they're calling out the opposing fan base and this
and that. It's like, dude, just let these guys enjoy
their moment. Can we get somebody with some credibility up
there to read these pics?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
It's all I'm saying, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Okay, that's how you feel about it.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I think what's interesting is I've never actually asked an
international fan that is a fan of the NFL, like,
do you watch the Draft? I mean, I think we
all understand they're going to watch the Super Bowl, they
might even attend the game that's over in London or
overseas that's over in Europe, right, But do you actually
watch the draft?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Right? I mean that's the next step.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Of really getting the intrigue of it, because it's not like,
as they would say, it's not like they watched university.
You know, they're not watching college football mostly, although college
football is trying to you know, create it's uh, it's
footprint over there. Yeah, clearly, we went to Ireland last
year saw that firsthand.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Are we going back this year?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I don't know, you know, who doesn't seem.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Like there's uh maybe the hoops for the jump through
last year. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of
more metim of us going back this year.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I mean it's either that or maybe we're not getting
invited back. You know, you know we could we could
have done some damage out there and maybe there's some.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Money we're lost. Damn bar.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It was a great time, but it was by a
couple of rounds there. It was a lot more expensive
than I anticipated.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I do appreciate the fact that if if somebody offers
you a beer at ten in the morning and you
say no, they look at you like you're the weirdo.
I do appreciate that that like you're the one who's
got the issue, not me having a be or my
second beer at ten in the morning. It's you who's
(05:03):
got the problem. It's like, okay, well, I mean it's
it's two o'clock in the morning back home. You know,
it's not exactly the time I want to have a guinness.
But you know, you have fun and you tear it
up a little bit. I do when it comes to
the draft and just sort of the you kind of
pointed this out. It did feel like there's not as
many guys going to the draft, Like it did feel
(05:24):
like there wasn't that the green room wasn't as packed.
It wasn't And I'm just wondering, with it being in
Green Bay next year, is this gonna I mean, are
we gonna see the numbers dwindle even more? Like maybe
that maybe these places aren't quote unquote cool enough for
him for some of these players to go get drafted there.
Because if you're the guy getting drafted by the team
hosting the draft, it's awesome. It's like Arnold for Alabama
(05:49):
who went and got drafted by the Lions in the
first round.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So if you're one of these guys that gets drafted
by the Packers next year, they're gonna roll out the
red carpet and you're gonna be celebrated onlike anybody else.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So let's just talk about the quarterbacks, because we had
six go in the top twelve picks, and if I'm
not mistaken, we're the top three all at the draft.
Caleb Williams obviously was, yes, I believe Jane Daniels was
and was, and Drake May was, and I think that's
a lot to do with the fact that we anticipated
all three of those going one, two, three.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
You know, if you.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Look at how the draft, even back when I'd went,
you know, there was five of us and I didn't
met with the team outside the top ten, and obviously
all those guys went inside the top seven. So that
was kind of the mold or model, if you will,
is they anticipated having, you know, a group of guys
they all thought were going in the top ten. And
(06:43):
I think if you look at the quarterbacks, for example,
Michael Pennix Junior, who ended up going to eight, probably
the biggest surprise of the draft, JJ mccarthur ends up
going what tenth, I think, right the Jets traded out
that spot, and then you had the Broncos who took Bonix.
All three were somewhere else, and the reason being is
there was speculation, wild speculation over where any of them
would go. So I think that lends a little bit
(07:07):
of an understanding to being someone who's been there and
who's gone through sitting in the green room and having
to wait and having a.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Camera on you. Is when you do fall like that's
what you sign up for.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You sign up for the exposure to they're going to
talk about it, and they're gonna put you on camera.
It's one of the storylines. You know, for this year,
maybe it wasn't quite as big of a storyline because
if Michael Pennix or Bo Nix, or maybe Jajo McCarthy,
if he would have dropped further than where he went,
maybe people would have made a bigger story about it.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
But none of that really happened this year.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I mean, the one that I think was most surprising
to me was Spencer Rattler, who I didn't think he
was going to be a first round pick. I thought
he maybe could be a second, third round pick. The
fact that he dropped to where he did was what
was really surprising. To be taken in the fifth round,
that was that was somewhat shocking. Give it his talent
level and what he put on tape, I did not
(08:03):
think he'd go that late in the draft. So it
lends you a little bit of an understanding of this
is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
It's a big event, and no one wants to be
that guy.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Some of the guys are concerned or scared of being
put in a position where they may be criticized and
maybe on camera a lot, and that's their own progative, right,
It's their own opportunity to do it. At the end
of the day, you're just blessed to be able to
have a chance to get a draft in the NFL
and go play a game for your first true professional job, right,
not like the bogie in or Hollister or Embassy suites
(08:37):
back in the day some of my former employers before I,
before I actually got in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, man, you working at a Hollister, It's just a
wonderful tale like that. That really is something. Did you
get any free like clothes or outfits or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
They give you a discount, You get a discount.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But that's the thing is you quickly realize after the
first time when you buy, because you have to wear
their clothes and you work there, they give you this
really big discount. He realized, like, my entire paycheck just
went to what I'm wearing at work. Like it's just
because you turned right back around and buy that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, that was a terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Idea on the Spencer Rattler stuff. How about the crap
that came out and Ian Rappaport couldn't even I think
understand it himself that the reason the thought was that
he dropped as far as he was because we were
talking on Friday and the Raiders were picking at forty
four in the second round, and we were thinking, okay,
that could be a landing spot. I think it was
one of our over unders as well too, as to
(09:27):
where he went so to drop all the way down.
Ian Rappaport said that he talked to a number of
NFL teams and they said the way that he was
depicted and the way that he came across on the
QB one show from Netflix was part of the reason
why teams wanted to potentially steer clear of him. That
(09:48):
came out when he was seventeen. It was six years ago,
and teams didn't like the way he was portrayed in
QB one, and that's part of the reason why he dropped.
What are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It's obviously odd that a team, you know, you'd think
that they do their due diligence to look at the player,
look at who he is now. I do wonder if
that was a convenient excuse, and maybe some of the
teams that did do some of the work on him,
felt like there was still some of that. Oklahoma felt
like there was still some of that of South Carolina.
It's hard to ultimately know. Obviously that's you know, their
(10:21):
own team's prerogative, but that's a learning lesson. I think
for a lot of young men out there is everything
you do is being monitored.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
They look at the tweets. I think they said from
these kids up through.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Junior high and as much as we would scrutinized teams
for that being something that made them hesitant of, you know,
drafting Spencer Rattler. The second they draft Spencer Rattler and
that clip comes out, the team, the coach, the general manager,
they're all they have to talk about it like that
stuff's out there publicly. So that's what you're drafting when
(10:55):
you draft him. Is even though we say it's six
years ago when he was seventeen, he's growing up. He's
matured a lot since then. They're still gonna have to
answer for it. As much as like we want to
we want to fault the NFL evaluators, uh, you know,
and the and the fun office execs and people who
might have said this is it's we're also part of
the reason for that, Like, we're just as much to
(11:16):
blame for how we are as a society because we
bring that stuff back up.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
We we there's a never end in search of it.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So again I hated it for him because again I
thought he was a really talented player and I still
think he's in a great spot if he gets his
opportunity in New Orleans to see.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
What that might look like.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
But the these teams will comb through every little piece
of information they can to try to reduce their risk
of bringing a guy that was portrayed and not a
great light.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
And you know that was his choice.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
He was on that show, and again, I know he's
grown up a lot since then, but maybe they felt
like there was some of that time of Oklahoma with
some of that South Carolina. We don't know what they
found out out. We can only speculate at this point,
but it's it's tough for these young men to live
in an era where everything you do is now scrutinized
for the time you're sixteen seventeen moving on.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And that part of the reason why you shouldn't do
a reality show like.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
That's one of the biggest that's what the quarterbacks want
to sign up for in the end, yeah, in the Netflix.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Series I want you want to do it?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And I would want no part of that. Like, listen,
you're celebrity, all right, Brady Quinn's a celebrity, all right?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Your wife consider myself that your wife.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Is an Olympian, the Great Alicia Sacramony. Like I mean
you guys, you guys are tailor made to be a
reality show. But no, not interested. Rather keep some of
this stuff private and not have a camera follow you around.
And by the way, a lot of these reality shows
and the people behind the reality shows, doesn't it always
end up turning into disaster, Like somebody's always got that
(12:50):
something on you, Like I don't know what the divorce
rate or the breakup rate is on some of these
reality show couples and marriages that go on tip television
and have cameras fall them around, but it is a disaster.
And Spencer Rattler just had to wait an extra day
and a half because the way he was depicted when
he was a teenager on a Netflix show kind of
(13:12):
wild man, like the background checks that they've done, but
away we go. What would it cost? Like how much
if somebody offered you a certain amount. What would be
your number to do reality show?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I don't know if there's a price.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean honestly, like, it's just that you wouldn't want
you'd have that full control of editing, like all those
things that you know no one would ever give up.
You know, most of these people who do these reality
TV shows, they want the final say so they can
create the storylines, they can create the drama.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
And that's why it would just never work.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I do sometimes feel like it would be beneficial to
pay for a camera crew to follow my family only
so we could be like, whoa pause, all right, let's
go back and watch this on replay, okay, and then
you actually like talk through a scenario or like an
argument or fight, and you're like, you know, you said
I said this.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
No you're like, no, no, pause, all right, let's go
to the.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Camera crew and we go back. Yeah, we break it
back down. You're like, all right, see you said this.
Now I'm gonna fast forward a little bit here. Okay, stop,
this is where you made this face, and this is
where I was then like, oh that's what okay? That
because it means something different when you say it and
you say it with that face, with that attitude, right,
(14:23):
and that's what really triggered me to then start arguing
with you.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
It's I don't know that would be I think the.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Most useful part of having a camera following you around
is you could literally be able to kind of pick
apart your life like that.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Eye in the sky and draw it out on the
screen like shallow arrows and circles. And this is where
it happened.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Literally have the whole TV and the family room have
like a chalkboard up there and be like, all right,
there's where we need to get better.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Let's go back to the tape now that delights that.
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He is the old P Petros Papadakis. You hear him
on the Petros and Money Show, which you can be
heard on the blowtorch. Am five seventy LA Sports College football.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Right, come on, man, do it again the blow torch. No,
that wasn't good enough. Man, Come on, man, do it?
Bring a man right the blow torch. There you go,
Am five seventy LA Sports. The old P Petros happening.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
What are you guys doing tomorrow? You got like a
twenty twenty five mock draft going on.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I always wondering the same thing.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
That's Lee.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Lee's moving some stuff around, yea, moving stuff around.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
We got Kentucky Derby this week. We got a special guest,
Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Oh, and I don't want to wait for Petro's extra hour.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
No, I uh, my life is collapsing, I'll say that. No,
it's all right.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I've been replaced from the job I did on the
Beach Life concert for like.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
The last six years.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Wait what four days out? They replaced me with a
King's cheerleader.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Oh no really, yep, what is good looking?
Speaker 8 (16:41):
Well, I would assume kylie.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Hey, Petros, we've been promoting that thing for what a month?
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I know, I know.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
So they took you texted him on Monday like, hey,
what's the plan this year? And they were like, well, actually,
oh no, really yeah, oh that sucks.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's all right.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Anyway, I'm here and I'm happy to be here. What
a time to be a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, listen, we do have a little bit of good
news for you. I don't know if you'd gotten a
chance to see this, but uh, the Athletic reported following,
Uh I saw this. Yeah that that you know, the
Lakers are not only open to bringing back Lebron James
on a three year, one hundred and sixty four million
dollar extension, but they're open to drafting his son Bronni.
So Petros, we play our cards right here. Screw Beach Life.
(17:34):
We got Ronnie life for the next or usc when
you got the Lakers bat pee.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Every day I wake up, I lose another job. I
used to have so many jobs. Tang, you're Jamaican. I
used to be. Now I'm more like a trinidaddy jobs.
You only got tree job jobs. I have to say, uh,
I did just wake up.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
To that too.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I saw it in Bleacher Report that the Lakers were
open quote unquote to doing all these things, and it's
just like somebody gave the King another big mac o
dose of cialis and he's going to continue to nail
us here in La.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
We've been getting nailed by the.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
King here for years and it's pretty I have to say,
people aren't going to be into this. And by people
I just don't mean like bitter, angry, aging radio types
like myself. I mean Laker fans, people that really actually
care about this team.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
This is not going to go over well if they
try to do this.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
I understand the marketability of having Lebron and what else
are you going to do?
Speaker 8 (18:46):
And we got to milk it for as long as
we can.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Kind of similar to the end of Kobe's career, which
was marred with injury and first round exits and all
those different things.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
That we kind of don't remember anymore.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
But I saw that report and it was like, man,
that is that is a punch to the stomach.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Did you hear his post game afterwards? His walking?
Speaker 8 (19:10):
Oh, it was so late. I mean I went to bed.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, so if you want to hear it, it's about
ten seconds. I believe this was Dan Wiki who was
asking him the question. Yeah, and so he he asked
him the question, and this is how it santa. Before
Lebron James walked off.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Tonight, was there any thought at all that you know,
this could have been your last game with the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'm not going to answer that. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And that's just basketball, guys, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
He's just basketball.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I don't know if I want to answer that it's
just basketball yet, you know, maybe I'll wait for that.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Petrock.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
He's a great player. There's no doubt he's one of
the all time greats. It can't be argued with. But man,
what a confounding person to cover. And the thing is,
it's like we're not none of us are this dumb,
but Lebron probably is. And we all just kind of
go along with it, like, okay, whatever you say, like
(20:07):
it is amazing and I'm sorry that I never felt
this way when he was in Cleveland and Miami and
people would say, no, no, no, this guy is all
the weird sub tweeting and all that stuff. This guy
it's it's it's insufferable, and it truly is. It truly
is so good luck to the Lakers. We usually have
(20:28):
Genie Buss come out every summer to one of our events,
you know, on our summer thing that we do, and
you know, we just kind of grin and bear it
and be like, hey, so, yeah, you're getting married to
j Moore. Okay, great, you know, like we you know,
we just tell her everything's awesome. I don't know what
I'm gonna do this, so, you know, if they bring
(20:51):
Lebron back and draft Brownie, Like, how am I going
to be?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Like, hey, welcome to the show. Gee, you know, Like
I mean, I don't care. It's funny for all of us.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
But if I was a Laker fan, and I know
there's a lot out there, if you thought Kobe was polarizing,
which he was. People don't realize that, but Kobe was
probably the most polarizing basketball player in the history of
basketball before this guy, and he happens to be here
in LA and unlike Kobe, he's not a lifetime Laker
or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
And we talk about it. All those things.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
They kind of become on savory And it all started
when he arrived in town and said he was going
to show up at a Blaze Pizza.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
And he never showed.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
A couple thousand people came out there ready to see
the King, and what did they get to see? Nothing
but the blight that we live amongst all the time
here in the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Happen.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, but he did tweet a photo of him in
a swimming pool at the time those fans were waiting
in the sun to see him a believe.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Yeah, he's got a great finger on the pulse. So
what people want?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Hand on the shaft?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah, he really does.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
He's got a hand on the shaft of the remote
control of the world. Dang, we're getting nailed by the
k Brady got to come down. It feels great, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I try to uh, yeah, well we have to wear
a mask on what that that happens, so I try.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
To avoid that. I'm not sure, we're really where to
go from here?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I I understand the topic of the Lakers only because
I guess it's.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Like, what are you talking about? Brownie?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Well, not so much even Brownie, It's just like what
are they selling?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Like?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I actually think the Clippers are a more.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
New arena is going to open up next year, and
they got more toilets than anybody in the history of
the world.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Sweet all the vegan diets out there, all those evils
people are eating what they've done to uh?
Speaker 8 (22:43):
I thought they was spelled a kai are joking. It's
a joke, you were.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You know, people are sprinkling a fire hose. Geez, it's
so a defecation joke. Is that the direction you wanted
to do?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well?
Speaker 8 (23:00):
I guess I yeah, grow up?
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Thanks Listen. They're opening a new arena in Inglewood. Everybody
knows that. The thing that bothers me about it is
now that there's like these two big arenas in Inglewood
and they reopen the Forum as a concert venue. Do
you know they've closed seven schools in Inglewood since then? Really,
they they're closing morning Side High and Morningside High schools
(23:28):
where Byron Scott and Lisa Leslie. Jim Herrick was the
coach there before he went to Pepperdine. Now I don't
under the financial situation and how they've been mismanaged or
what have they been doing in Inglewood over the years
that that's part of the argument. But really what the
argument is from what I understand, is now that all
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these places have gone to Inglewood and they've kind of
revitalized the community in a certain way if you look
at it like that where they scoop all the hobos
out and stuff when they had the Super Bowl to
act like there's no hoboes there. Uh, they close seven
schools because the property is so valuable now and they
can sell the property.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
Dude, they close seven schools for kids in Englewood.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
It's cre So it's kind of hard to be like, yeah,
I can't wait for this new Clipper arena. It reminds
me of that story. And Morningside High is the most
recognizable one because it's a high school, but the rest
are like middle schools and junior highs and stuff, and
it's all bs because they're changing that whole city around
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because the Clippers are showing up.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But hey, toilets, I mean as long as they don't
touch Randy's Donuts. I think that's really the most important thing.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Of all this.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
If Randy's Donuts becomes a Krispy Kreme.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Then we really nailed.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Can I ask one question for we let you go?
Or at least I.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Don't know, maybe another question answer, But what was your
opinion on your boy Caleb getting drafted?
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I mean, you know, a long distance call from a
mystery blonde. I mean he was getting like there was
it would have been a shock if he wasn't right right, Yes, yeah,
I mean I find the draft interesting later, you know,
usually around the time the second round starts, because like
(25:22):
that's when people I covered a bunch get drafted, right,
like weird players like that tight end from Kansas State,
you know, people like that, And that's cool. I'm always
excited to see how that plays out because it's less
predictable and and that's kind of where.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
My football expertise lies.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
But in the first round, I mean, you guys got drafted,
you guys went through the process. You understand so much
more about it. And that's why your show's so valuable,
especially around this time of year, because you can talk
about what it's like. I don't think people realize what
a difficult thing it is, whether you're Caleb Williams, who
seems to have a great deal of confidence, or or anybody.
(26:08):
The draft is a really weird time because being on
a football team is like you're you're always protected right
in a certain kind of way, by the pads, by
your teammates, by the tunnel, by the sideline. You just
you're you're always kind of insulated. And when you get
done playing football, no matter if you're going to be
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the number one pick on the draft, you don't have
that team anymore. You've been spit out and you're now
an individual and you're just out there kind of floating
in space. And I guess these guys deal with a
lot more nowadays with the transfer portal and kind of
the way individuals have been celebrated more in the sport.
But I always think about that, like, these are really
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young people and it's a very lonely time, and everybody,
as you can see in their family and their periphery
and their girlfriend, everybody's trying to be close to them
in that moment, and that part of it is kind
of an interesting social experiment to watch, uh, But for me,
it's more interesting kind of down the line where the
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where the guys start getting drafted, second, third, fourth round.
But you guys have dealt with it a lot more
that weird kind of feeling in the draft. And I
just can't believe so many people show up to see
somebody's name.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Get called and to Boo the governor of Michigan.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
It's like like seven hundred thousand people showed up for that. Like, hey,
we're the Denver people. We wear big Denver hats. It's like, like,
did the NFL place you there?
Speaker 8 (27:39):
Do they give you a sign?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Like? Right?
Speaker 8 (27:42):
People love football? Man, I get it, but it's not
foot log. But it's not football. They're not getting nailed
by the king. You're right, you're not getting nailed by
the somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Is sure the rest of your day getting it nailed.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Pet have a new oil that I'm music.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Whoa cbd O.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Take this? It's called Grandma Curl.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Get you some.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Get him on Twitter at the old pe. We appreciate it.
We'll do it together next week.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Pat, Hey, how sad did Joe Alt's girlfriend love? She
looks by the way, is it mere?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Did he get up and like hug everyone awkwardly or
when you're that big, do you just look awkward?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
If they had him on the show, he seemed pretty Uh.
I was like, you're not gonna go Hollywood, are you, Joe?
You're not going to stop wearing that quarters himpart.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
What he said?
Speaker 8 (28:40):
No, no, sir, This is why I'm am.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
No sir, no sir.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Look at you already making fun of the notre dame guy.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
I love him.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
The echoes, well, there's gonna be some echos being waked
up when the King is nailing you to.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
Buddy, Yeah, would you stop with the getting nailed by
the king? I've been saying it for two years. It's
like traffic, Like the guy in the eighties that just
figured out where's the beef?
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Saying it over and over again. Where's the Yeah, where's.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Exactly where it is?
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Yeah? Swing from the King.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Come on, we'll see you.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Petros there he is, the great Petross papadagg Is.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yes, guy, he's the best, He's the best. Can't stop,
won't stop.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 6 (29:43):
What does it mean by the footprint? Looks like he's
a big fellow. What does that mean asking the wrong guy? Oh, fargo,
what does that mean?
Speaker 9 (29:54):
Though she's a detective and he looks like a big
fellow by the size of she hunting them down.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
So he's a big fellow. That is correct? All right?
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Yeah, I mean, I'll take it. I don't know if
it was really a compliment or not.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, all right, I'd take it too. I just wouldn't
believe it.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Tang, damn.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Two pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Do vampires have footprints?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Uh? Good question?
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Well, they don't have reflections. But they don't have reflections.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What do you mean vampires don't have reflections?
Speaker 6 (30:30):
You can't see yourself in the mirror. Look, look where
Eddie is. That's a good points your problem, Arena tag.
That was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Why can't they shoot their reflection?
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
What's the why they?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yeah? Right, people see yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I think it's because they have no soul.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Dang, Well, I mean that what I mean? You do
watch Charmed? You would have the answer. Yeah, Tang, you
don't have a reflection if you don't have a soul, Yeah,
you got.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It Rightang, damn that sucks.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
How do you not have a soul? What do they have?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Then?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
What's their life force? I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Their life sources blood?
Speaker 9 (31:21):
They have to you know, your life sources blood when
you have a soul. The old argument goes that blood
suckers exist in two worlds, the living and the dead,
but since neither is fully in one or the other,
that's why they don't have have a reflection and want.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
You to get off my Wikipedia page.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
So where do you go when you're not here like
in the living world? What what is the other side?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
So well, I have just a quick question though, So
that would mean that you know, don't have a mirror,
because what's the point?
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Oh, they say vampires don't have That's how you know
if they're in a vampire's house.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Because you can tell by look at the look at
the whole that I'm not going to look your guys,
aren't that good? Look at look at the holes in
my sweats and also into my shoes. You could tell
I don't look at the mirror before I leave, So
otherwise it wouldn't be wearing those beaters but yes, I
guess it does lure me down the hole in his
sweat pocket.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I do know what I mean. I don't think so, Joe, good.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Try though, I know what you're doing, Johnson.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Just so holes in your pocket, don't you?
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
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com the way tire buying should be. All right, so
kind of a bad look for fan bases in the
world of sports. Last night, we talked about the Pat
Beverly situation. For those either there just tuning in. Pat Beverly,
who plays for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
He shot a ball upside a girl's head.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, and he's on his thirteenth team in like the
last hour, and Pat bev decided to throw a ball
at somebody in the crowd following Milwaukee's or while Milwaukee
was getting wiped out, added hit a woman who had
nothing to do with the altercation in the side of
the head. Then he got the ball back and throw
it again.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Nobody wants to get randomly hit upside to hit with
a man's balls.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, definitely not. Doesing makes sense? No, I mean, listen,
you know there is there's something for everybody.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
If you're throwing your balls, you usually should generally make
sure that there's like, you know, you guys got a
good agreement going on there if you're gonna throw them,
well said yeah. Otherwise, like randomly thrown like in the
hitting people, you could get in trouble. I'm just curious
as to how much trouble he may get into, you know,
outside of like being an NBA issue. This could be
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outside matter, right, like she might have filed a report
against him.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I would have said this because if you go back
and watch the video where Pap Beverley throws the first
ball and it hits her in the side of the
head she started laughing after it happened. If that was me,
I would have gone.
Speaker 10 (34:12):
Into convulsion right exactly, just like I mean immediately right
then and there, like there was a lightning bolt coming
through the top of the roof hitting me and just
just evaporating my soul.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Like that's what I would have done. But you know,
if she decided to laugh, so maybe that's gonna.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
I would have dropped and I would have made sure
I fell and hit myself off of a chair like
I'm trying to go for blood.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Don't you break my fall and going.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Down any pre existing injury that I had, but I
couldn't afford surgery bringing it to the Oh, I'm holding
it like so if I've got a bum hip and
a ball hits me in the side of the head,
I'm holding my hip and head at the same time.
That way I can get that surgery paid for. But
she didn't. She laughed, So she screwed up a missed opportunity.
It probably a lot of money. Pap Beverly decided to
he didn't want to talk to a reporter who didn't
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subscribe to his podcast, asked after.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
The game was close, where he could just lob it
and pop her upside to hit So she might not
be doing bad in life anyway?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, well so, so Patrick Beverley not great. We'll see
what happens, what the punishment looks like for him. Here's
the fan bases that I think need to be called
into question, all right, First and foremost, the New York Knicks. Now,
the New York Knick fan base. They took over Philly.
They showed up there. They were very loud, very boisterous,
(35:30):
and we're gonna have more on that coming up here shortly.
But they were not very nice to somebody who was
in attendance watching the seventy six ers Knicks game. And
that's somebody was your guy, Saquon Barkley. Apparently, Knicks fans
that were in attendance let him have it while Saquon
was sitting there watching the game. So he took to
social media and said, quote, it's been two months. Lol,
(35:52):
No way you can still be this mad mother effort.
Can't even go to a basketball game now. He didn't
say motherfor he wrote MF. I'm gonna assume that means
mother effort. But he can't even go to a basketball
game now. Someone responded to saw Barkley and said this
something about you know you left New York, you went
to Philly, And so Saquon wrote back quote, let me
(36:14):
educate some of you fans here. I can't bail or
become a trader if I never got an offer to here,
you go, thank you. So I went to the organization
I felt was best. And after already being here for
a month, man, I'm excited to be an Eagle. Go Birds.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
You can't be mad at that. You can't be mad
at him. Every opportunity to keep him in New York,
he said he wanted to stay in New York.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
He even came back and took the deal last year
and missed no time like It's not like he held
out or misspractices.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
I can guarantee you those people that segment of people
that did that, they don't represent the entire Giants fan base.
They don't because the people that know, they know. And
if you're ignorant enough to not know the details of
why Saquon isn't in New York York anymore, once he's
not in New York, over the reasons he's not in
New York for, you don't have any grounds to be
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upset with him if he goes to a divisional rival,
divisional opponent.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And also if you want to bitch and moan about
Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
If you want to bitch and moan about Saquon Barkley
leaving New York and going to Philly, dude, bitch and
moan at your organization for picking Daniel Jones over him.
What Like they chose.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Him and still got him coming back.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, So the idea that it's Saquon Barkley's fault for
leaving and going somewhere else, like, they had multiple opportunities
to give him an offer or to make him feel
like he wanted. And I'll bet if you were to
say to Saquon Barkley, he would tell you I wanted
to stay like I wanted to be in New York.
He seems like the type of guy who doesn't want
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to just leave and up and go somewhere like. He
tried to make it work. He performed well the past
couple of years. Yes, there were injuries early in his career,
but he performed well. And it wasn't exactly the most
stable organization, and you never heard him complain publicly about
the organization or anything like that. He was disappointed not
to get a new deal, but he came back. He
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honored the contract, He performed last year, unlike Daniel Jones.
And yet Daniel Jones is the guy coming back because
the organization made a choice.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Zation.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, like not his fault at all.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
So, and he's from PA. Hello, he's from PA and
he was yours before there he was ours. It's ours,
you know. And I'm pretty certain he's from that side
of the state. I'm pretty certain.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Would have been pretty sweet if he went to the Steelers, though, Noel.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
He's not from the He's not from the west side.
He's from the east side. I believe Sakwon Barkley. Let's see. Yeah,
I'm pretty certain he's from the eastern side of the state.
But he might have been born in New Jersey. He
was born in New York, but he grew up in
Whitehall Township, which I do believe. Whitehall is on the
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other side in the region eastern. Yeah, the eastern region, yep,
so he's actually he probably grew up a Philadelphia Eagles fan.
He grew up in the Philly side of the state.
So you can't have a problem with if a kid
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doesn't get and he's a man. But I just used
kid for the sake saying kid. If the kid has
the opportunity to have a choice because he was shunned
from the organization that he wanted to stay with. And
now he's basically, in essence, a free agent and he
chooses his home, and his home happens. There's not like
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there's another team in Philadelphia that he could choose that's home, right,
It's not like, oh, I went to back to New York.
I chose between the Jets and the Giants. One's an
NFC team, one's an AFC team, and one isn't in
the other ones vision. Like, Okay, it wasn't that. You
don't have that type of option. So if that man
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chose to go back home for one reason or another,
whatever that reason is, First of all, whatever that reason
is is no longer of anyone's business anyway, Like you
don't have to get upset over what his reasoning is
of whatever team that that chose him, that he chose
that he's playing for.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Okay, you know Saquon Barkley, You've known him for a
long time. Do you believe had you if he in
a perfect world, he.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Would still be a New York Giant.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
And this isn't on him, no, And I mean, if
you're not if you're not, if you don't have your
head up your own ass, take your your head out
your ass and put it back on the lower part
of your back. If it isn't up your own ass,
then you would know that by everything that he has
said through the years of him being a New York Giant,
that he wanted to stay at New York Giant. The
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dude was fighting to get a deal. The dude took
a deal that wasn't even a favorable deal just so
he could get back into camp.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
People don't remember that, though.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
You don't flip and remember that, do Yeah, he made
concessions to make sure that he was doing what was
best for the team. You don't remember that. What you
want to remember is he's going to whoop your ass.
That's what you're going to remember. He's going to whoop
your team's ass twice a year. So if you want
(41:30):
to be upset, be upset at the people who let
him go. Don't be upset at him.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Stupid, So not a good look for the New York
Giants fan base, but to be expected, they're a little
bit bitter about how that all went down.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Well, I mean they're a little bit bitter about how
things have been going down lately. Yeah, hasn't been good,
I'll tell you that. But it also isn't good for
the Philadelphia fan base.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Uh oh.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
And I say all that to say this, uh oh.
The seventy six Ers owners having to buy up tickets
because they were so upset that the Knicks fans took
over the previous game there and were chanting fmbad. So
the Sixers owners go on this campaign to buy up
tickets because we can't be out numbered in our own building. Dude,
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if you didn't throw together a crap product throughout the
course of the season at certain points, and if the
fan base wasn't disappointed in the in the performance of
the team through the course of the season, then maybe
they would have shown up and outnumbered the New York
Knicks fans. And if you're an owner, what do you
care If you have visiting fans that are coming in there,
(42:35):
they're gonna spend money. It's not like they're coming in
there for free on freebee tickets. They got it a
dollar tree because they bought two bottles of wind decks
and they got a third for Come on, what are
we talking about here? So you're gonna go on this campaign.
We got to make sure that we have our fans
are going to show up and out number theirs. They
did everything they could, and I don't know about the
(42:56):
purpose of it all. Yeah, Like I just I don't
know about you, but I'm looking at that game last
night and I'm listening. It sure seemed like there were
a lot of Knicks fans that were there, Like they
still showed up so much so that they let Saquon
Barkley know and he had to go to social media
that they weren't happy that he left New York to
go to Philly. So it's just it's kind of a
weird thing when teams get upset about opposing fans, like
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when they go, well, we need a real home field
advantage in the owner, and then they'll make it to
where you have to be a local resident to purchase
tickets or you can't be from outside the state to
purchase tickets. What do you care, Like, if I'm one
of the local businesses in town, I'd rather have an
opposing fan come to town because they're gonna show up
(43:41):
and they're gonna realize, Hey, if I'm coming to town,
I'm gonna spend a little bit of money while I'm out.
So let's go out. Let's go to the bars, let's
go to the restaurants. I hate when teams do this
crap where they try and shut out opposing fans. The
fans should have no impact on the game. It was
a great environment to watch basketball in and whether it
was a fifth twenty fifty split or seventy five twenty
(44:02):
five or whatever, it was a great environment. And it
made the owners and the Philadelphia.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
The reason why they weren't able to able to rally
and win the game, right, you know, it might have
there might have been moments in time where the crowd
participation maybe impacted the way the game outcome, you know,
eventually ended up being. Yeah, I mean it's possible. I mean,
(44:27):
never mind the fact that hostile environment. Yeah, but those
those hostile vibrations, those mean vibrations were were hitting Joel
Embiid's knee, his injured knee. Yeah, and that was a problem.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, I mean, Juela Inmbiid's knee looked like a Halloween costume.
But it was the fans that had the real impact
on the game. You know, it had nothing to do
with the fact that you know, Tyrese Maxi, who's been
great all series, you know, had a little bit of
a disappointing performance or anything like that. It had everything
to do with the fact that Knicks fans were being mean.
Tod duel Bead and the seventy six ers were not
(45:02):
happy about it. Like, dude, if you're the NBA, you
want more rivalries like this. This is like how it
was back in the day, you know. And by how
far away is Philly from Manhattan? Like what would you say,
Philly to Manhattan?
Speaker 6 (45:16):
You can take a train there, right, Yes, with like
an hour, you could walk from Philly to New York?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Lee, Can we see that?
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Really?
Speaker 5 (45:27):
That's it? See?
Speaker 2 (45:28):
That's what they need there. Yeah, that's what you need.
You need some real rivalries, and if you're ninety seven
miles away.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
It's a real rivalry. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Good The Jets, I mean, the Eagles and the Giants
hate each other.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Phillies Mets, same thing.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
Do they hate each other?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Of course, yeah, well they hate each other. Good football wise,
they hate each other.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
You needed some spice put back into the NBA a
little bit, so good for them. Also, by the way,
this is important, it's.
Speaker 6 (45:59):
A football for all right, okay, we finally here, right,
you know we're here.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Joe this.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Sehn j.
Speaker 8 (46:13):
Soun until more? Come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 6 (46:27):
I'm just saying, this is the one that we gotta
go with.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
We gotta run with this.
Speaker 11 (46:33):
Wh here we go, right, football pride, Hi rock up,
stuck up.
Speaker 8 (46:44):
Yeah, like football prad here's a football Friday.
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How the hell we feel in here in a Monday BQ.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Just trying to take in the draft. I mean, it's
there's so many interesting takeaways. Obviously after free agency, now
after the draft. I think every fan out there has
an idea of like where their team's at, their chance
of winning a Super Bowl this year. Obviously a lot
of time until the season starts, but I gotta tell you,
I I kind of fed off some of your enthusiasm
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for the draft.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
It's it's such a cool event.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's such a neat experience even to go through it,
but looking back on it now, just it's it's the
most unique draft and an event. I think there is
a professional sports and no one does it better in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And I think the final tally was just under eight
hundred thousand fans. Yeah, ude, because you really do combine
the best of both worlds. If the NFL is king
and college football is second, it's it's the one event
where they're all together at the same time, and you
kind of you kind of mix both those audiences. In
(01:15):
but just the NFL's idea on moving this thing around,
and you know, going from New York and all that,
and I know, you know, you guys like the tradition.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Of New York.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I've always liked the draft because it just gave everybody hope.
They're like, all right, we may have sucked last year,
but you know there's some hope here. And then just
to see what it's turned into when we were in
Vegas for the Draft a couple of years ago. You've
been to a bunch of drafts and it just to
be there and to see what it's turned into from
all these years later, and it just gets bigger and
(01:46):
better every single year. And then next year, if I'm
not mistaking, it's Green Bay, correct, I think it's in
Green Bay next year. So that's going to be that's
going to be pretty wild as well too. So good times,
good times to be had at the Draft. I mean, look,
I just I would appreciate it personally if we could
just skip past the whole international fan of the year
(02:06):
reading the pick for some of these guys. That part
really bothers me. It really bought. It's like these guys
are supposed to take in the moment, the biggest moment
of their career, of their life. They've worked so hard
to get up to this point. They're gonna get their
name called and get drafted, and it's some goofball wearing
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all team uniforms. Like they had a guy who was
dressed up in suspenders with a cheese hat on because
he was representing the Packers, some guy from like London
or someplace like that. You got like this other guy,
like representing the Bears, some slob. He comes out there
and like a Jack Sanborn Jersey and he starts reading
off the pick in the fourth round. We give them games,
(02:51):
all right, They get their games, all right, they get
a few a year. We just don't need these guys
walking up there looking like dummies, you know, reading off
these picks because they're half in the bag. I think
it's a bit insulting, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
See, you don't think that's part of them trying to,
you know, spread the game internationally, and that that's part
of their little I don't know, trying to dig in
to spread the game.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It isn't isn't them getting a game enough? Do we
have to reward the fans by getting up there to
read these picks, you know, like somebody's gonna screw something up,
and then it turns into like some professional wrestling event
where they're calling out the opposing fan base and this
and that. It's like, dude, just let these guys enjoy
their moment. Can we get somebody with some credibility up
there to read these pics?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
It's all I'm saying, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Okay, that's how you feel about it.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I think what's interesting is I've never actually asked an
international fan that is a fan of the NFL, like,
do you watch the Draft? I mean, I think we
all understand they're going to watch the Super Bowl, they
might even attend the game that's over in London or
overseas that's over in Europe, right, But do you actually
watch the draft?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Right? I mean that's the next step.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Of really getting the intrigue of it, because it's not like,
as they would say, it's not like they watched university.
You know, they're not watching college football mostly, although college
football is trying to you know, create it's uh, it's
footprint over there. Yeah, clearly, we went to Ireland last
year saw that firsthand.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Are we going back this year?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I don't know, you know, who doesn't seem.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Like there's uh maybe the hoops for the jump through
last year. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of
more metim of us going back this year.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I mean it's either that or maybe we're not getting
invited back. You know, you know we could we could
have done some damage out there and maybe there's some.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Money we're lost. Damn bar.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It was a great time, but it was by a
couple of rounds there. It was a lot more expensive
than I anticipated.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I do appreciate the fact that if if somebody offers
you a beer at ten in the morning and you
say no, they look at you like you're the weirdo.
I do appreciate that that like you're the one who's
got the issue, not me having a be or my
second beer at ten in the morning. It's you who's
(05:03):
got the problem. It's like, okay, well, I mean it's
it's two o'clock in the morning back home. You know,
it's not exactly the time I want to have a guinness.
But you know, you have fun and you tear it
up a little bit. I do when it comes to
the draft and just sort of the you kind of
pointed this out. It did feel like there's not as
many guys going to the draft, Like it did feel
(05:24):
like there wasn't that the green room wasn't as packed.
It wasn't And I'm just wondering, with it being in
Green Bay next year, is this gonna I mean, are
we gonna see the numbers dwindle even more? Like maybe
that maybe these places aren't quote unquote cool enough for
him for some of these players to go get drafted there.
Because if you're the guy getting drafted by the team
hosting the draft, it's awesome. It's like Arnold for Alabama
(05:49):
who went and got drafted by the Lions in the
first round.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So if you're one of these guys that gets drafted
by the Packers next year, they're gonna roll out the
red carpet and you're gonna be celebrated onlike anybody else.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So let's just talk about the quarterbacks, because we had
six go in the top twelve picks, and if I'm
not mistaken, we're the top three all at the draft.
Caleb Williams obviously was, yes, I believe Jane Daniels was
and was, and Drake May was, and I think that's
a lot to do with the fact that we anticipated
all three of those going one, two, three.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
You know, if you.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Look at how the draft, even back when I'd went,
you know, there was five of us and I didn't
met with the team outside the top ten, and obviously
all those guys went inside the top seven. So that
was kind of the mold or model, if you will,
is they anticipated having, you know, a group of guys
they all thought were going in the top ten. And
(06:43):
I think if you look at the quarterbacks, for example,
Michael Pennix Junior, who ended up going to eight, probably
the biggest surprise of the draft, JJ mccarthur ends up
going what tenth, I think, right the Jets traded out
that spot, and then you had the Broncos who took Bonix.
All three were somewhere else, and the reason being is
there was speculation, wild speculation over where any of them
would go. So I think that lends a little bit
(07:07):
of an understanding to being someone who's been there and
who's gone through sitting in the green room and having
to wait and having a.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Camera on you. Is when you do fall like that's
what you sign up for.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You sign up for the exposure to they're going to
talk about it, and they're gonna put you on camera.
It's one of the storylines. You know, for this year,
maybe it wasn't quite as big of a storyline because
if Michael Pennix or Bo Nix, or maybe Jajo McCarthy,
if he would have dropped further than where he went,
maybe people would have made a bigger story about it.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
But none of that really happened this year.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I mean, the one that I think was most surprising
to me was Spencer Rattler, who I didn't think he
was going to be a first round pick. I thought
he maybe could be a second, third round pick. The
fact that he dropped to where he did was what
was really surprising. To be taken in the fifth round,
that was that was somewhat shocking. Give it his talent
level and what he put on tape, I did not
(08:03):
think he'd go that late in the draft. So it
lends you a little bit of an understanding of this
is a big deal.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
It's a big event, and no one wants to be
that guy.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Some of the guys are concerned or scared of being
put in a position where they may be criticized and
maybe on camera a lot, and that's their own progative, right,
It's their own opportunity to do it. At the end
of the day, you're just blessed to be able to
have a chance to get a draft in the NFL
and go play a game for your first true professional job, right,
not like the bogie in or Hollister or Embassy suites
(08:37):
back in the day some of my former employers before I,
before I actually got in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, man, you working at a Hollister, It's just a
wonderful tale like that. That really is something. Did you
get any free like clothes or outfits or anything like that?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
They give you a discount, You get a discount.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But that's the thing is you quickly realize after the
first time when you buy, because you have to wear
their clothes and you work there, they give you this
really big discount. He realized, like, my entire paycheck just
went to what I'm wearing at work. Like it's just
because you turned right back around and buy that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, that was a terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Idea on the Spencer Rattler stuff. How about the crap
that came out and Ian Rappaport couldn't even I think
understand it himself that the reason the thought was that
he dropped as far as he was because we were
talking on Friday and the Raiders were picking at forty
four in the second round, and we were thinking, okay,
that could be a landing spot. I think it was
one of our over unders as well too, as to
(09:27):
where he went so to drop all the way down.
Ian Rappaport said that he talked to a number of
NFL teams and they said the way that he was
depicted and the way that he came across on the
QB one show from Netflix was part of the reason
why teams wanted to potentially steer clear of him. That
(09:48):
came out when he was seventeen. It was six years ago,
and teams didn't like the way he was portrayed in
QB one, and that's part of the reason why he dropped.
What are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It's obviously odd that a team, you know, you'd think
that they do their due diligence to look at the player,
look at who he is now. I do wonder if
that was a convenient excuse, and maybe some of the
teams that did do some of the work on him,
felt like there was still some of that. Oklahoma felt
like there was still some of that of South Carolina.
It's hard to ultimately know. Obviously that's you know, their
(10:21):
own team's prerogative, but that's a learning lesson. I think
for a lot of young men out there is everything
you do is being monitored.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
They look at the tweets. I think they said from
these kids up through.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Junior high and as much as we would scrutinized teams
for that being something that made them hesitant of, you know,
drafting Spencer Rattler. The second they draft Spencer Rattler and
that clip comes out, the team, the coach, the general manager,
they're all they have to talk about it like that
stuff's out there publicly. So that's what you're drafting when
(10:55):
you draft him. Is even though we say it's six
years ago when he was seventeen, he's growing up. He's
matured a lot since then. They're still gonna have to
answer for it. As much as like we want to
we want to fault the NFL evaluators, uh, you know,
and the and the fun office execs and people who
might have said this is it's we're also part of
the reason for that, Like, we're just as much to
(11:16):
blame for how we are as a society because we
bring that stuff back up.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
We we there's a never end in search of it.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So again I hated it for him because again I
thought he was a really talented player and I still
think he's in a great spot if he gets his
opportunity in New Orleans to see.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
What that might look like.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
But the these teams will comb through every little piece
of information they can to try to reduce their risk
of bringing a guy that was portrayed and not a
great light.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
And you know that was his choice.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
He was on that show, and again, I know he's
grown up a lot since then, but maybe they felt
like there was some of that time of Oklahoma with
some of that South Carolina. We don't know what they
found out out. We can only speculate at this point,
but it's it's tough for these young men to live
in an era where everything you do is now scrutinized
for the time you're sixteen seventeen moving on.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And that part of the reason why you shouldn't do
a reality show like.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
That's one of the biggest that's what the quarterbacks want
to sign up for in the end, yeah, in the Netflix.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Series I want you want to do it?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And I would want no part of that. Like, listen,
you're celebrity, all right, Brady Quinn's a celebrity, all right?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Your wife consider myself that your wife.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Is an Olympian, the Great Alicia Sacramony. Like I mean
you guys, you guys are tailor made to be a
reality show. But no, not interested. Rather keep some of
this stuff private and not have a camera follow you around.
And by the way, a lot of these reality shows
and the people behind the reality shows, doesn't it always
end up turning into disaster, Like somebody's always got that
(12:50):
something on you, Like I don't know what the divorce
rate or the breakup rate is on some of these
reality show couples and marriages that go on tip television
and have cameras fall them around, but it is a disaster.
And Spencer Rattler just had to wait an extra day
and a half because the way he was depicted when
he was a teenager on a Netflix show kind of
(13:12):
wild man, like the background checks that they've done, but
away we go. What would it cost? Like how much
if somebody offered you a certain amount. What would be
your number to do reality show?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I don't know if there's a price.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I mean honestly, like, it's just that you wouldn't want
you'd have that full control of editing, like all those
things that you know no one would ever give up.
You know, most of these people who do these reality
TV shows, they want the final say so they can
create the storylines, they can create the drama.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
And that's why it would just never work.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I do sometimes feel like it would be beneficial to
pay for a camera crew to follow my family only
so we could be like, whoa pause, all right, let's
go back and watch this on replay, okay, and then
you actually like talk through a scenario or like an
argument or fight, and you're like, you know, you said
I said this.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
No you're like, no, no, pause, all right, let's go
to the.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Camera crew and we go back. Yeah, we break it
back down. You're like, all right, see you said this.
Now I'm gonna fast forward a little bit here. Okay, stop,
this is where you made this face, and this is
where I was then like, oh that's what okay? That
because it means something different when you say it and
you say it with that face, with that attitude, right,
(14:23):
and that's what really triggered me to then start arguing
with you.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
It's I don't know that would be I think the.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Most useful part of having a camera following you around
is you could literally be able to kind of pick
apart your life like that.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Eye in the sky and draw it out on the
screen like shallow arrows and circles. And this is where
it happened.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Literally have the whole TV and the family room have
like a chalkboard up there and be like, all right,
there's where we need to get better.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Let's go back to the tape now that delights that.
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Speaker 6 (15:49):
Right, come on, man, do it again the blow torch. No,
that wasn't good enough. Man, Come on, man, do it?
Bring a man right the blow torch. There you go,
Am five seventy LA Sports. The old P Petros happening.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
What are you guys doing tomorrow? You got like a
twenty twenty five mock draft going on.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I always wondering the same thing.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
That's Lee.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Lee's moving some stuff around, yea, moving stuff around.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
We got Kentucky Derby this week. We got a special guest,
Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Oh, and I don't want to wait for Petro's extra hour.
Speaker 8 (16:22):
No, I uh, my life is collapsing, I'll say that. No,
it's all right.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I've been replaced from the job I did on the
Beach Life concert for like.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
The last six years.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Wait what four days out? They replaced me with a
King's cheerleader.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Oh no really, yep, what is good looking?
Speaker 8 (16:41):
Well, I would assume kylie.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Hey, Petros, we've been promoting that thing for what a month?
Speaker 8 (16:51):
I know, I know.
Speaker 7 (16:53):
So they took you texted him on Monday like, hey,
what's the plan this year? And they were like, well, actually,
oh no, really yeah, oh that sucks.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's all right.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Anyway, I'm here and I'm happy to be here. What
a time to be a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, listen, we do have a little bit of good
news for you. I don't know if you'd gotten a
chance to see this, but uh, the Athletic reported following,
Uh I saw this. Yeah that that you know, the
Lakers are not only open to bringing back Lebron James
on a three year, one hundred and sixty four million
dollar extension, but they're open to drafting his son Bronni.
So Petros, we play our cards right here. Screw Beach Life.
(17:34):
We got Ronnie life for the next or usc when
you got the Lakers bat pee.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Every day I wake up, I lose another job. I
used to have so many jobs. Tang, you're Jamaican. I
used to be. Now I'm more like a trinidaddy jobs.
You only got tree job jobs. I have to say, uh,
I did just wake up.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
To that too.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
I saw it in Bleacher Report that the Lakers were
open quote unquote to doing all these things, and it's
just like somebody gave the King another big mac o
dose of cialis and he's going to continue to nail
us here in La.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
We've been getting nailed by the.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
King here for years and it's pretty I have to say,
people aren't going to be into this. And by people
I just don't mean like bitter, angry, aging radio types
like myself. I mean Laker fans, people that really actually
care about this team.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
This is not going to go over well if they
try to do this.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
I understand the marketability of having Lebron and what else
are you going to do?
Speaker 8 (18:46):
And we got to milk it for as long as
we can.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Kind of similar to the end of Kobe's career, which
was marred with injury and first round exits and all
those different things.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
That we kind of don't remember anymore.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
But I saw that report and it was like, man,
that is that is a punch to the stomach.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Did you hear his post game afterwards? His walking?
Speaker 8 (19:10):
Oh, it was so late. I mean I went to bed.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Okay, so if you want to hear it, it's about
ten seconds. I believe this was Dan Wiki who was
asking him the question. Yeah, and so he he asked
him the question, and this is how it santa. Before
Lebron James walked off.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Tonight, was there any thought at all that you know,
this could have been your last game with the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'm not going to answer that. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And that's just basketball, guys, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
He's just basketball.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I don't know if I want to answer that it's
just basketball yet, you know, maybe I'll wait for that.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Petrock.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
He's a great player. There's no doubt he's one of
the all time greats. It can't be argued with. But man,
what a confounding person to cover. And the thing is,
it's like we're not none of us are this dumb,
but Lebron probably is. And we all just kind of
go along with it, like, okay, whatever you say, like
(20:07):
it is amazing and I'm sorry that I never felt
this way when he was in Cleveland and Miami and
people would say, no, no, no, this guy is all
the weird sub tweeting and all that stuff. This guy
it's it's it's insufferable, and it truly is. It truly
is so good luck to the Lakers. We usually have
(20:28):
Genie Buss come out every summer to one of our events,
you know, on our summer thing that we do, and
you know, we just kind of grin and bear it
and be like, hey, so, yeah, you're getting married to
j Moore. Okay, great, you know, like we you know,
we just tell her everything's awesome. I don't know what
I'm gonna do this, so, you know, if they bring
(20:51):
Lebron back and draft Brownie, Like, how am I going
to be?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Like, hey, welcome to the show. Gee, you know, Like
I mean, I don't care. It's funny for all of us.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
But if I was a Laker fan, and I know
there's a lot out there, if you thought Kobe was polarizing,
which he was. People don't realize that, but Kobe was
probably the most polarizing basketball player in the history of
basketball before this guy, and he happens to be here
in LA and unlike Kobe, he's not a lifetime Laker
or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
And we talk about it. All those things.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
They kind of become on savory And it all started
when he arrived in town and said he was going
to show up at a Blaze Pizza.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
And he never showed.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
A couple thousand people came out there ready to see
the King, and what did they get to see? Nothing
but the blight that we live amongst all the time
here in the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Happen.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, but he did tweet a photo of him in
a swimming pool at the time those fans were waiting
in the sun to see him a believe.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Yeah, he's got a great finger on the pulse. So
what people want?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Hand on the shaft?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
Yeah, he really does.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
He's got a hand on the shaft of the remote
control of the world. Dang, we're getting nailed by the
k Brady got to come down. It feels great, Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I try to uh, yeah, well we have to wear
a mask on what that that happens, so I try.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
To avoid that. I'm not sure, we're really where to
go from here?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I I understand the topic of the Lakers only because
I guess it's.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Like, what are you talking about? Brownie?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Well, not so much even Brownie, It's just like what
are they selling?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Like?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I actually think the Clippers are a more.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
New arena is going to open up next year, and
they got more toilets than anybody in the history of
the world.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Sweet all the vegan diets out there, all those evils
people are eating what they've done to uh?
Speaker 8 (22:43):
I thought they was spelled a kai are joking. It's
a joke, you were.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You know, people are sprinkling a fire hose. Geez, it's
so a defecation joke. Is that the direction you wanted
to do?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well?
Speaker 8 (23:00):
I guess I yeah, grow up?
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Thanks Listen. They're opening a new arena in Inglewood. Everybody
knows that. The thing that bothers me about it is
now that there's like these two big arenas in Inglewood
and they reopen the Forum as a concert venue. Do
you know they've closed seven schools in Inglewood since then? Really,
they they're closing morning Side High and Morningside High schools
(23:28):
where Byron Scott and Lisa Leslie. Jim Herrick was the
coach there before he went to Pepperdine. Now I don't
under the financial situation and how they've been mismanaged or
what have they been doing in Inglewood over the years
that that's part of the argument. But really what the
argument is from what I understand, is now that all
(23:49):
these places have gone to Inglewood and they've kind of
revitalized the community in a certain way if you look
at it like that where they scoop all the hobos
out and stuff when they had the Super Bowl to
act like there's no hoboes there. Uh, they close seven
schools because the property is so valuable now and they
can sell the property.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
Dude, they close seven schools for kids in Englewood.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
It's cre So it's kind of hard to be like, yeah,
I can't wait for this new Clipper arena. It reminds
me of that story. And Morningside High is the most
recognizable one because it's a high school, but the rest
are like middle schools and junior highs and stuff, and
it's all bs because they're changing that whole city around
(24:33):
because the Clippers are showing up.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But hey, toilets, I mean as long as they don't
touch Randy's Donuts. I think that's really the most important thing.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Of all this.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
If Randy's Donuts becomes a Krispy Kreme.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Then we really nailed.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Can I ask one question for we let you go?
Or at least I.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Don't know, maybe another question answer, But what was your
opinion on your boy Caleb getting drafted?
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I mean, you know, a long distance call from a
mystery blonde. I mean he was getting like there was
it would have been a shock if he wasn't right right, Yes, yeah,
I mean I find the draft interesting later, you know,
usually around the time the second round starts, because like
(25:22):
that's when people I covered a bunch get drafted, right,
like weird players like that tight end from Kansas State,
you know, people like that, And that's cool. I'm always
excited to see how that plays out because it's less
predictable and and that's kind of where.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
My football expertise lies.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
But in the first round, I mean, you guys got drafted,
you guys went through the process. You understand so much
more about it. And that's why your show's so valuable,
especially around this time of year, because you can talk
about what it's like. I don't think people realize what
a difficult thing it is, whether you're Caleb Williams, who
seems to have a great deal of confidence, or or anybody.
(26:08):
The draft is a really weird time because being on
a football team is like you're you're always protected right
in a certain kind of way, by the pads, by
your teammates, by the tunnel, by the sideline. You just
you're you're always kind of insulated. And when you get
done playing football, no matter if you're going to be
(26:29):
the number one pick on the draft, you don't have
that team anymore. You've been spit out and you're now
an individual and you're just out there kind of floating
in space. And I guess these guys deal with a
lot more nowadays with the transfer portal and kind of
the way individuals have been celebrated more in the sport.
But I always think about that, like, these are really
(26:49):
young people and it's a very lonely time, and everybody,
as you can see in their family and their periphery
and their girlfriend, everybody's trying to be close to them
in that moment, and that part of it is kind
of an interesting social experiment to watch, uh, But for me,
it's more interesting kind of down the line where the
(27:11):
where the guys start getting drafted, second, third, fourth round.
But you guys have dealt with it a lot more
that weird kind of feeling in the draft. And I
just can't believe so many people show up to see
somebody's name.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
Get called and to Boo the governor of Michigan.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
It's like like seven hundred thousand people showed up for that. Like, hey,
we're the Denver people. We wear big Denver hats. It's like, like,
did the NFL place you there?
Speaker 8 (27:39):
Do they give you a sign?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Like? Right?
Speaker 8 (27:42):
People love football? Man, I get it, but it's not
foot log. But it's not football. They're not getting nailed
by the king. You're right, you're not getting nailed by
the somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Is sure the rest of your day getting it nailed.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Pet have a new oil that I'm music.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Whoa cbd O.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Take this? It's called Grandma Curl.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Get you some.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Get him on Twitter at the old pe. We appreciate it.
We'll do it together next week.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
Pat, Hey, how sad did Joe Alt's girlfriend love? She
looks by the way, is it mere?
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Did he get up and like hug everyone awkwardly or
when you're that big, do you just look awkward?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
If they had him on the show, he seemed pretty Uh.
I was like, you're not gonna go Hollywood, are you, Joe?
You're not going to stop wearing that quarters himpart.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
What he said?
Speaker 8 (28:40):
No, no, sir, This is why I'm am.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
No sir, no sir.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Look at you already making fun of the notre dame guy.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
I love him.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
The echoes, well, there's gonna be some echos being waked
up when the King is nailing you to.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
Buddy, Yeah, would you stop with the getting nailed by
the king? I've been saying it for two years. It's
like traffic, Like the guy in the eighties that just
figured out where's the beef?
Speaker 8 (29:08):
Saying it over and over again. Where's the Yeah, where's.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Exactly where it is?
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Yeah? Swing from the King.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Come on, we'll see you.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Petros there he is, the great Petross papadagg Is.
Speaker 7 (29:26):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yes, guy, he's the best, He's the best. Can't stop,
won't stop.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
What does it mean by the footprint? Looks like he's
a big fellow. What does that mean asking the wrong guy? Oh, fargo,
what does that mean?
Speaker 9 (29:54):
Though she's a detective and he looks like a big
fellow by the size of she hunting them down.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
So he's a big fellow. That is correct? All right?
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Yeah, I mean, I'll take it. I don't know if
it was really a compliment or not.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, all right, I'd take it too. I just wouldn't
believe it.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Tang, damn.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Two pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Do vampires have footprints?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Uh? Good question?
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Well, they don't have reflections. But they don't have reflections.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What do you mean vampires don't have reflections?
Speaker 6 (30:30):
You can't see yourself in the mirror. Look, look where
Eddie is. That's a good points your problem, Arena tag.
That was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Why can't they shoot their reflection?
Speaker 5 (30:45):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
What's the why they?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yeah? Right, people see yourself.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I think it's because they have no soul.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Dang, Well, I mean that what I mean? You do
watch Charmed? You would have the answer. Yeah, Tang, you
don't have a reflection if you don't have a soul, Yeah,
you got.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It Rightang, damn that sucks.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
How do you not have a soul? What do they have?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Then?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
What's their life force? I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Their life sources blood?
Speaker 9 (31:21):
They have to you know, your life sources blood when
you have a soul. The old argument goes that blood
suckers exist in two worlds, the living and the dead,
but since neither is fully in one or the other,
that's why they don't have have a reflection and want.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
You to get off my Wikipedia page.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
So where do you go when you're not here like
in the living world? What what is the other side?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
So well, I have just a quick question though, So
that would mean that you know, don't have a mirror,
because what's the point?
Speaker 6 (31:51):
Oh, they say vampires don't have That's how you know
if they're in a vampire's house.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Because you can tell by look at the look at
the whole that I'm not going to look your guys,
aren't that good? Look at look at the holes in
my sweats and also into my shoes. You could tell
I don't look at the mirror before I leave, So
otherwise it wouldn't be wearing those beaters but yes, I
guess it does lure me down the hole in his
sweat pocket.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
I do know what I mean. I don't think so, Joe, good.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Try though, I know what you're doing, Johnson.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Just so holes in your pocket, don't you?
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
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com the way tire buying should be. All right, so
kind of a bad look for fan bases in the
world of sports. Last night, we talked about the Pat
Beverly situation. For those either there just tuning in. Pat Beverly,
who plays for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
He shot a ball upside a girl's head.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, and he's on his thirteenth team in like the
last hour, and Pat bev decided to throw a ball
at somebody in the crowd following Milwaukee's or while Milwaukee
was getting wiped out, added hit a woman who had
nothing to do with the altercation in the side of
the head. Then he got the ball back and throw
it again.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Nobody wants to get randomly hit upside to hit with
a man's balls.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, definitely not. Doesing makes sense? No, I mean, listen,
you know there is there's something for everybody.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
If you're throwing your balls, you usually should generally make
sure that there's like, you know, you guys got a
good agreement going on there if you're gonna throw them,
well said yeah. Otherwise, like randomly thrown like in the
hitting people, you could get in trouble. I'm just curious
as to how much trouble he may get into, you know,
outside of like being an NBA issue. This could be
(33:56):
outside matter, right, like she might have filed a report
against him.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I would have said this because if you go back
and watch the video where Pap Beverley throws the first
ball and it hits her in the side of the
head she started laughing after it happened. If that was me,
I would have gone.
Speaker 10 (34:12):
Into convulsion right exactly, just like I mean immediately right
then and there, like there was a lightning bolt coming
through the top of the roof hitting me and just
just evaporating my soul.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Like that's what I would have done. But you know,
if she decided to laugh, so maybe that's gonna.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
I would have dropped and I would have made sure
I fell and hit myself off of a chair like
I'm trying to go for blood.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Don't you break my fall and going.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Down any pre existing injury that I had, but I
couldn't afford surgery bringing it to the Oh, I'm holding
it like so if I've got a bum hip and
a ball hits me in the side of the head,
I'm holding my hip and head at the same time.
That way I can get that surgery paid for. But
she didn't. She laughed, So she screwed up a missed opportunity.
It probably a lot of money. Pap Beverly decided to
he didn't want to talk to a reporter who didn't
(34:58):
subscribe to his podcast, asked after.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
The game was close, where he could just lob it
and pop her upside to hit So she might not
be doing bad in life anyway?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, well so, so Patrick Beverley not great. We'll see
what happens, what the punishment looks like for him. Here's
the fan bases that I think need to be called
into question, all right, First and foremost, the New York Knicks. Now,
the New York Knick fan base. They took over Philly.
They showed up there. They were very loud, very boisterous,
(35:30):
and we're gonna have more on that coming up here shortly.
But they were not very nice to somebody who was
in attendance watching the seventy six ers Knicks game. And
that's somebody was your guy, Saquon Barkley. Apparently, Knicks fans
that were in attendance let him have it while Saquon
was sitting there watching the game. So he took to
social media and said, quote, it's been two months. Lol,
(35:52):
No way you can still be this mad mother effort.
Can't even go to a basketball game now. He didn't
say motherfor he wrote MF. I'm gonna assume that means
mother effort. But he can't even go to a basketball
game now. Someone responded to saw Barkley and said this
something about you know you left New York, you went
to Philly, And so Saquon wrote back quote, let me
(36:14):
educate some of you fans here. I can't bail or
become a trader if I never got an offer to here,
you go, thank you. So I went to the organization
I felt was best. And after already being here for
a month, man, I'm excited to be an Eagle. Go Birds.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
You can't be mad at that. You can't be mad
at him. Every opportunity to keep him in New York,
he said he wanted to stay in New York.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
He even came back and took the deal last year
and missed no time like It's not like he held
out or misspractices.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
I can guarantee you those people that segment of people
that did that, they don't represent the entire Giants fan base.
They don't because the people that know, they know. And
if you're ignorant enough to not know the details of
why Saquon isn't in New York York anymore, once he's
not in New York, over the reasons he's not in
New York for, you don't have any grounds to be
(37:06):
upset with him if he goes to a divisional rival,
divisional opponent.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And also if you want to bitch and moan about
Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
If you want to bitch and moan about Saquon Barkley
leaving New York and going to Philly, dude, bitch and
moan at your organization for picking Daniel Jones over him.
What Like they chose.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Him and still got him coming back.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, So the idea that it's Saquon Barkley's fault for
leaving and going somewhere else, like, they had multiple opportunities
to give him an offer or to make him feel
like he wanted. And I'll bet if you were to
say to Saquon Barkley, he would tell you I wanted
to stay like I wanted to be in New York.
He seems like the type of guy who doesn't want
(37:49):
to just leave and up and go somewhere like. He
tried to make it work. He performed well the past
couple of years. Yes, there were injuries early in his career,
but he performed well. And it wasn't exactly the most
stable organization, and you never heard him complain publicly about
the organization or anything like that. He was disappointed not
to get a new deal, but he came back. He
(38:10):
honored the contract, He performed last year, unlike Daniel Jones.
And yet Daniel Jones is the guy coming back because
the organization made a choice.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Zation.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, like not his fault at all.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
So, and he's from PA. Hello, he's from PA and
he was yours before there he was ours. It's ours,
you know. And I'm pretty certain he's from that side
of the state. I'm pretty certain.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Would have been pretty sweet if he went to the Steelers, though, Noel.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
He's not from the He's not from the west side.
He's from the east side. I believe Sakwon Barkley. Let's see. Yeah,
I'm pretty certain he's from the eastern side of the state.
But he might have been born in New Jersey. He
was born in New York, but he grew up in
Whitehall Township, which I do believe. Whitehall is on the
(39:01):
other side in the region eastern. Yeah, the eastern region, yep,
so he's actually he probably grew up a Philadelphia Eagles fan.
He grew up in the Philly side of the state.
So you can't have a problem with if a kid
(39:22):
doesn't get and he's a man. But I just used
kid for the sake saying kid. If the kid has
the opportunity to have a choice because he was shunned
from the organization that he wanted to stay with. And
now he's basically, in essence, a free agent and he
chooses his home, and his home happens. There's not like
(39:44):
there's another team in Philadelphia that he could choose that's home, right,
It's not like, oh, I went to back to New York.
I chose between the Jets and the Giants. One's an
NFC team, one's an AFC team, and one isn't in
the other ones vision. Like, Okay, it wasn't that. You
don't have that type of option. So if that man
(40:05):
chose to go back home for one reason or another,
whatever that reason is, First of all, whatever that reason
is is no longer of anyone's business anyway, Like you
don't have to get upset over what his reasoning is
of whatever team that that chose him, that he chose
that he's playing for.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Okay, you know Saquon Barkley, You've known him for a
long time. Do you believe had you if he in
a perfect world, he.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Would still be a New York Giant.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
And this isn't on him, no, And I mean, if
you're not if you're not, if you don't have your
head up your own ass, take your your head out
your ass and put it back on the lower part
of your back. If it isn't up your own ass,
then you would know that by everything that he has
said through the years of him being a New York Giant,
that he wanted to stay at New York Giant. The
(40:57):
dude was fighting to get a deal. The dude took
a deal that wasn't even a favorable deal just so
he could get back into camp.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
People don't remember that, though.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
You don't flip and remember that, do Yeah, he made
concessions to make sure that he was doing what was
best for the team. You don't remember that. What you
want to remember is he's going to whoop your ass.
That's what you're going to remember. He's going to whoop
your team's ass twice a year. So if you want
(41:30):
to be upset, be upset at the people who let
him go. Don't be upset at him.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Stupid, So not a good look for the New York
Giants fan base, but to be expected, they're a little
bit bitter about how that all went down.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Well, I mean they're a little bit bitter about how
things have been going down lately. Yeah, hasn't been good,
I'll tell you that. But it also isn't good for
the Philadelphia fan base.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Uh oh.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
And I say all that to say this, uh oh.
The seventy six Ers owners having to buy up tickets
because they were so upset that the Knicks fans took
over the previous game there and were chanting fmbad. So
the Sixers owners go on this campaign to buy up
tickets because we can't be out numbered in our own building. Dude,
(42:15):
if you didn't throw together a crap product throughout the
course of the season at certain points, and if the
fan base wasn't disappointed in the in the performance of
the team through the course of the season, then maybe
they would have shown up and outnumbered the New York
Knicks fans. And if you're an owner, what do you
care If you have visiting fans that are coming in there,
(42:35):
they're gonna spend money. It's not like they're coming in
there for free on freebee tickets. They got it a
dollar tree because they bought two bottles of wind decks
and they got a third for Come on, what are
we talking about here? So you're gonna go on this campaign.
We got to make sure that we have our fans
are going to show up and out number theirs. They
did everything they could, and I don't know about the
(42:56):
purpose of it all. Yeah, Like I just I don't
know about you, but I'm looking at that game last
night and I'm listening. It sure seemed like there were
a lot of Knicks fans that were there, Like they
still showed up so much so that they let Saquon
Barkley know and he had to go to social media
that they weren't happy that he left New York to
go to Philly. So it's just it's kind of a
weird thing when teams get upset about opposing fans, like
(43:21):
when they go, well, we need a real home field
advantage in the owner, and then they'll make it to
where you have to be a local resident to purchase
tickets or you can't be from outside the state to
purchase tickets. What do you care, Like, if I'm one
of the local businesses in town, I'd rather have an
opposing fan come to town because they're gonna show up
(43:41):
and they're gonna realize, Hey, if I'm coming to town,
I'm gonna spend a little bit of money while I'm out.
So let's go out. Let's go to the bars, let's
go to the restaurants. I hate when teams do this
crap where they try and shut out opposing fans. The
fans should have no impact on the game. It was
a great environment to watch basketball in and whether it
was a fifth twenty fifty split or seventy five twenty
(44:02):
five or whatever, it was a great environment. And it
made the owners and the Philadelphia.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
The reason why they weren't able to able to rally
and win the game, right, you know, it might have
there might have been moments in time where the crowd
participation maybe impacted the way the game outcome, you know,
eventually ended up being. Yeah, I mean it's possible. I mean,
(44:27):
never mind the fact that hostile environment. Yeah, but those
those hostile vibrations, those mean vibrations were were hitting Joel
Embiid's knee, his injured knee. Yeah, and that was a problem.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, I mean, Juela Inmbiid's knee looked like a Halloween costume.
But it was the fans that had the real impact
on the game. You know, it had nothing to do
with the fact that you know, Tyrese Maxi, who's been
great all series, you know, had a little bit of
a disappointing performance or anything like that. It had everything
to do with the fact that Knicks fans were being mean.
Tod duel Bead and the seventy six ers were not
(45:02):
happy about it. Like, dude, if you're the NBA, you
want more rivalries like this. This is like how it
was back in the day, you know. And by how
far away is Philly from Manhattan? Like what would you say,
Philly to Manhattan?
Speaker 6 (45:16):
You can take a train there, right, Yes, with like
an hour, you could walk from Philly to New York?
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Lee, Can we see that?
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Really?
Speaker 5 (45:27):
That's it? See?
Speaker 2 (45:28):
That's what they need there. Yeah, that's what you need.
You need some real rivalries, and if you're ninety seven
miles away.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
It's a real rivalry. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:36):
Good The Jets, I mean, the Eagles and the Giants
hate each other.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Phillies Mets, same thing.
Speaker 5 (45:45):
Do they hate each other?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:47):
Of course, yeah, well they hate each other. Good football wise,
they hate each other.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
You needed some spice put back into the NBA a
little bit, so good for them. Also, by the way,
this is important, it's.
Speaker 6 (45:59):
A football for all right, okay, we finally here, right,
you know we're here.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Joe this.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Sehn j.
Speaker 8 (46:13):
Soun until more? Come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 6 (46:27):
I'm just saying, this is the one that we gotta
go with.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
We gotta run with this.
Speaker 11 (46:33):
Wh here we go, right, football pride, Hi rock up,
stuck up.
Speaker 8 (46:44):
Yeah, like football prad here's a football Friday.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Here on two pros. Like Coup of Joe on F
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