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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar are Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox on
Box Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel here on a Monday morning?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
That was a weekend. That was a weekend of football. Man,
Which one is your WU for?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Though? I mean.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
I had to have seen at least a hundred indfanse
in Chicago yesterday.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Travel it wasn't good, but you know what, it's not bad.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Though it's bad, but it's not as bad as it
could it could be.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
We'll get to that. Well, we'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
We have a segment probably devoted for close losses, which
and then went on which your.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
WU was for the Well, it's football to you saying I'm.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Excited, I'm excited football is back. You know, you gotta
move on. It's the expanded playoff era, so you can
you can lose one, you can lose to maybe three.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
So but we will talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
It was the it was America's game of the week.
It was the big one. It was the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
It was the delivered.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
They delivered, well Dallas did and uh and then all
of a sudden, Mike Zimmer and that defense said yeah,
We're gonna go ahead and dismiss whatever happened in that
playoff game against Green Bay and they whooped that ass yesterday.
That was a beating and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
But don't you feel like Dallas is beginning to be
the Baltimore of the NFC. It's like like, now under
Mike McCarthy, we don't worry about whether or not they're
playoff team. That was a problem before with Jason Garrett.
That's not a concern anymore. It's like, all right, that
was a great win. I mean, well, excuse me, good
win granted versus my super Bowl. Pick the team to

(01:54):
win it all. A lot of work to do there.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
Don't jump off the boat yet.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Come on, Oh no, no, no season, long season, sixteen
more to go. But is that where they're at? Like,
are we that? I've thought about? You to on that
one too. Don't worry, you know, all we need to
do is get the tournament at the end of the year.
That's all we need to do.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
I thought about Jonas with the Bears. I mean, they won,
but you know.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
That's not a playoff team.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
That's not a playoff team. I'm sorry, I get it,
trust me. I watched, but isn't this getting to that point.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I mean, look, it's congrats the Dack by the way,
biggest contract NFL history, over two hundred and thirty million guaranteed.
I mean, I just the Cowboys got business done when
they needed to on and off the field, especially Week one.
But that's not ultimately what's going to determine Mike McCarthy's
job status. It's what they do once it comes to

(02:57):
the postseason.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
That's correct. I'm not trying to.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Take anything away from the win.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
It was a Domina win.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
But it's also like the difference of two franchises right now,
where you've got one that's that's been a twelve win
team that gets the playoff. Then you've got another one
that's like still trying to find its way of what
are we doing at the quarterback spot? I mean, both
both tackles out. It was gonna be hard for them
to be productive, especially with that matchup. But I look
at it just go You've got a team of the

(03:24):
Cleveland Browns that they know what they're dealing with. It's
just about trying to get it there for Dallas. Great win,
but this isn't what we're gonna be judged based on
all of us.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And it's also Jerry Jones all off season, I mean
multiple times throughout the offseason he's brought up the Green
Bay thing, the Green Bay thing like that loss still
resonates with him. And so yeah, like anybody that says, well,
you know, why not you know, appreciate what they're doing
in the regular season, well, because the owner is saying, listen,
this is all nice. We're winning twelve games a year,

(03:56):
but we're not doing it in the postseason. And that
loss still I think other's Jerry Jones, bothers that organization
people up top, and so now it's it's a way
we go with another Cowboys funfield season.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Ceedee Lamb snapped. He snapped out, I mean where he
concerned about would he be ready to go, not being
in training camp, does he need to get back into
game shape or whatever. He Ceedee Lamb is a is
a guy and he's gonna make a statement for being

(04:30):
the best in the league. He will, he will make
a statement this year. Dak Prescott looked good and I
know that there's the talk of what they do in
the postseason. One will be what Mike McCarthy has judged
off of I agree with you on that queue, but
I also agree that you gotta go one game out

(04:50):
of time too, right, It's it's always a one game
season in terms of if you're going to even be
good enough or what type of momentum you have going
into the playoffs. Are are you a home team, are
you a good team? Did you limp into it, did
you stumble into it? How did you go through the
regular season? Because quite frankly, if you don't do well

(05:13):
in the regular season, he don't have to worry about
what he's going to be judged and measured on in
the playoffs because they won't be going to them. I'll
say this, I'm not going to look at any of
these teams except Carolina and say that they're done for.
I'm not going to look at any of them and
say that I feel horribly bad for Bryce Young because

(05:37):
what the trend looks like for him doesn't look great.
But I'm not going to go too deep into that.
I'm gonna stay on Dallas when I look at all
of these teams, I'm not going to get too high
on the fact that Dallas look like a team. Need
I say what Jerry Jones has been saying all season

(06:01):
they looked like an all in team. They did, they
looked good on defense, they were flying around. They got
Trayvon Back. I think that's a tremendous obviously a tremendous
addition back to their defense after losing him. And it
is nice to see him flying around. Mike Is Michaeh. Parsons.

(06:22):
I mean, it just is what it is. Like you
you had better figure out a way to avoid him
versus try him. Do not think that you're unless you're
gonna plan on saying somebody else has to beat us
in terms of putting two or three guys on him

(06:43):
and blocking him. Michael Parsons is going to dominate his
part of the game, and he's going to impact what
an offense does. So to me, looking at Dallas yesterday,
they I mean Zeke. Zeke's obviously not the fact that
he was, but Zeke serves a very nice purpose in

(07:03):
that run game with pass pickups and those hard yards,
Like he's like a battering ram running back now, you know.
And I was impressed by Dallas. I really was watching
that game and watching Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
See he went off, man didn't he went off? He
went for sixty one, he went off man.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
When they used him, he did what he needed to do.
And I don't know, Cleveland. I want to say it's
a head scratcher, but if I'm being honest, that's what
I was expecting. But I don't want to say that's
what I was expecting until we get into week five,
six or seven, because they could turn it around.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
So the old line obviously was banged up. But I
was watching the game yesterday and I'm looking at the
second half and thinking to myself, there's no way Deshaun
Watson makes it through this season in one piece, Like
if that's he was taking a beating.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Right But but but eventually Willison Cocklin will be back.
Willis excuse me that that's that's one of the biggest
reasons when you have both tackles out and you're going
up against that defense with Micah Parsons, the whether they
can rush. I just I mean, it was a bit
of an outlier, Like I don't suspect it'll be like
that every single week for me, you don't have both.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Your starting tackles, It's uh, it just did.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Not I'm not I'm not in on Deshaun Watson. I'm
sorry I think, and they pay it. They got to
pay him all that money his day cap space. Like,
as you've been mentioning the whole time, I'm just not.
I'm just not a believe I'm sorry, I'm just not.
I'm not a believer in Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
I'm just not.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
I just don't see a guy that that's going to
be the guy that people think he was at the
moment in time he was in Houston. I think that's
a long go on deal. That's a pipe dream to
think that he's going to be this, this world beater
at quarterback.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I mean, the last time that he was like a
really good starting quarterback in the NFL was what twenty twenty.
It's four years and injuries, you know, the weird off
field stuff, everything that came along with it. Like, yeah,
the roster's good, but I just I'm with you, I
don't I just don't see it. I don't think it's

(09:23):
there anymore. And they're just going to have to wear
it and hope that, you know, they can get something
and improve, you know, I guess around him, maybe get
a better more of a running game. Maybe, you know,
Jameis Winston gets an opportunity at some point. But I
just I look at it and I think Stefanski, I
don't know if he's got the power to be able

(09:44):
to make the decision. But I just still go back
to Mary Kay Cabot, who said a couple of months
ago they will not be shy about benching him if
they feel like it's going to upgrade the position and
they're going to get more out of whoever's behind him.
But they ran a graphic on the game yesterday and
showed listen, when he's not in and they've got to

(10:06):
turn to another quarterback, the numbers are better. And then meanwhile,
Baker Mayfield's just lighten up Washington yesterday.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
How awesome was that?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's great?

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Let me bad for Washington. I don't think it was awesome.
I thought it was a good game for Tampa though, but.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I mean, well, awesome in the and the respect of
what happened. What occurred between Baker Mayfield and the Cleveland
Browns is always I mean, Washington, we'll get to them
at some point.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
But yeah, yeah, so you're not alone. To you, you're
not alone, broy All.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Good.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
It was just good to see a guy who, you know,
I thought had taken to Cleveland to a point where
it was as good as it was going to be
at that time, and they've continued to build the roster
to a point now where I think if he's in Cleveland,
that game looks entirely different, but maybe not a ton
different because of the issue with the tackles and that
defensive front, But to me, much better quarterback play, much

(11:04):
more consistent quarterback play.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
I think they have a chance to compete and win
the game if Baker Mayfield is in that game. I'm
sorry and Djoku Atkins for Judy Amari that you have
a ton of guys more. I just think it's the quarterback.

(11:30):
I'm gonna be honest, I think it's the quarterback. And
granted the Dallas offense gave a daunting Cleveland defense, that
Cleveland defense will be everything that Cleveland needs in order
to make a run for the playoffs in order to
be competitive in the AFC North. That defense will live

(11:55):
up to its billing if the health of the main
guys stays what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
But I think the.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Achilles heel of this of this team is that they
have to unequivocally put their trust in the hands of
a quarterback that just is not going to be able
to deliver what it is that that the team is
going to need. That's that's just my take on it.
I don't want to feel like I'm throwing shade, but

(12:26):
y'all know me. You know, some some days sometimes I'm
the half glass. I'm the glass half empty, not half fool.
I'm half empty on this one. I think as long
as he's their quarterback, unless he proves me otherwise, that's
going to be the.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Achilles Hill of this team.

Speaker 9 (12:41):
Man.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I only know the fans' perspective, just because there's so
many you know, Cleveland fans around it, you know, central
Hilo area, and it's everyone's just tired of it, and
honestly like they're tired of kind of the like. And
this is what one buddy said to me yesterday. He's like, man,
it feels like he just makes it, makes excuses for
everything that doesn't go right and instead of just owning

(13:05):
it and taking accountability. And he was like, man, he's like,
the guy's getting paid two hundred and thirty million or
whatever it was guaranteed he goes. At some point, you
have to be able to take criticism and I do
feel like, I mean, think about it, well, let's be
real for a second, between his agent, his quarterback, coach,
all parties involved, there's a lot of sensitivity about everything

(13:26):
that happened off the field, the jokes that have been
thrown around. At some point you have to step up
and kind of be a man and be like, yeah,
it's on me, Like I signed this conject I did
whatever would happen, was accused of the past, like, he's
got to be accountable for all of that, and it
doesn't feel like he always is. I think that's the
frustrating part too.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
It's one thing if you're not going.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
To be good enough or performing well, whatever the case is,
it's it's another it makes even worse when you don't
take responsibility when you're the key component to all of that.
And I think I think that's the frustrating part for
Browns fans out there right now, is they're living with
this and they've got to for at least another couple

(14:07):
of years. After this year. I think his dead cap
hits like one hundred and seventy some million. It's ridiculous,
Like and look, you can blame ownership on that because
this decision to sign and trade for Deshaun Watson was
all Jimmy Haslam and before they they kind of went
on this run where they had, you know, Baker Mayfield.

(14:29):
If you go back and look at the ownership tenure
of Jimmy Haslam, he was He's been awful as an owner. Awful.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I mean an oh.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
To sixteen season, a one to fifteen season, and everything
they've gone through, and firing coach after coach after coach
and not even giving guys really chances. And then he settles,
like Kevin Stefanski. They have a playoff year, they go
to Pittsburgh, b Pittser in the playoffs. That's the moment
where you say, all right, Eureka, we've got it. I
don't need to move on from my quarterback. And instead

(15:01):
whatever transpires between Baker Mayfield and Jimmy has them transpires
and this is the end result. Like this is his
was his response to Baker Mayfield and whatever took place
between us two. And now this is where the Crowns
are with a roster that with any almost any other
quarterback playing at an average level, probably could have a

(15:22):
shot away a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Most expensive gaff In NFL history. I mean, I might
go down as the worst end on that trade contract.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Everything that foot well, yeah, and that's the other part
of it, like not even just the contract, everything they
gave up for it.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
And I'm just not I'm not. I'm not one of
those guys to hate on somebody's money. God bless you.
You made your money. But this one might go down
in the history and the animals as the worst. And
I said that when it happened to be honest, like
we were joking. We talked about hard towels and and
and and deep massages and all that stuff. We were

(15:57):
joking around when we were talking about them. But I'm
just telling you, man, what I looked at yesterday. That
doesn't look like that's going to trend in a different direction,
tackles back or not. It just it just you know,
it's like they say, believe you're lying eyes, Like, believe
you're lying eyes.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Man. At some point, if.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
It looks like a duck and it quacks like a
duck and it walks like a duck, it's a duck.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I say, do you think that it was like how
soon before the game or how soon before I guess
better question how long ago was this contract with Dak finalized?
Because I do wonder if because they gave him what
did it.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Look like it was like dang Dak balk But.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
It was but because it happened right before the game.
And look at the guaranteed dollars. It was one million
more than what Deshaun got. And I just wonder if
they were like, yeah, we're gonna sign off on this,
but we're going to drop the news right before you
go play the guy that that organization gave the record contract.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
I didn't even see it before the game.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
I was just watch I was traveling, so I was
watching the game on my phone and in like airport
bars and stuff like that because we were delayed all day.
I literally just got home like fifteen minutes ago. But
I'll tell you it just for me, Dak Prescott looked
legit yesterday.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
I'll tell you that now. The reason of when to
do it and how they did it, I don't know.
I saw it.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
I saw it during the game and I was like, oh, like,
you know, I said some profanity, like one word in particular,
you know, the one thing that you know horses have
and all that stuff. I was like, oh, horse right,
and and he was bawling like it wasn't like you
were looking at it and you're looking across the field

(17:47):
at the guy that had the other contract that large.
You were just looking at Dak Prescott like. He looked sharp,
he looked crisp, he looked confident. They looked confident. The
Cowboys look like a team that's ready to handle their business.
That's what it looked like to me. So if I'm
Jerry Jones today or if I'm even Mike McCarthy, you.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Know, I'm pleased.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
I'm pleased coming out of Week one saying that, you
know what, if we can hold this together, stay healthy,
some good things, you know, stay in our favor. This
is a team which, by the way, here's me making
it about me as I usually do. This will be
a team that is actually very very competitive within this

(18:35):
regular season, and I think they'll be pretty pretty competitive
in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, it really comes down
to what they do in the playoffs. That's what it's about.
For Mike McCarthy, for Circh, Sure, I feel like Dak
played well. I mean, you know what wasn't like, Oh no,
I'm just I mean.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Numbers are pedestrian. Yeah it's it's pedestrian, but that's what
I'm saying. But it is that line too.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
But yeah, I mean, it wasn't like he lit the
world on fire. I was more impressed by Tyreek Hill
overcoming whatever the hell happened fast to him doing that.
And then, by the way, the throw of the decade
would have been Anthony Richardson. I have never seen anything
like that. And did you see that off his back
foot from seventy yards down field? That's crazy. I mean

(19:29):
that is the most ridiculous throw I've ever seen in
my Like when you wanted to ask why, I was saying, whoo,
that's why. I've never seen a throw like that in
my entire life. And that kid is just flat out
a superstar in the making, like you want to talk about,
like show out. I know they lost, but he keeps

(19:50):
that entire thing. He keeps it in that the entire
team competitive. It's not like the roster around him is
really that supportive, at least maybe offense speaking. I mean,
I just he makes all of that go. That kid's impressive.

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(21:18):
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Speaker 6 (21:21):
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Speaker 11 (21:24):
The blood bank was that was that out for Justice?
I'm hard to kill, Okay, facing storm, Yeah, he went
through face.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
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watched the oscars at some liquor store.

Speaker 9 (21:38):
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Speaker 6 (21:45):
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Speaker 5 (21:49):
It's really good, bro, especially for five in the morn's
almost scary.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Oh many petros at least usc they they respond did
after the big win. They went out there. They took
care of business over Utah State.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yeah, they didn't pull a Notre Dame tod they.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean, I didn't want to go there.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
You know, I met that coach Hammock.

Speaker 9 (22:12):
I did one of his games when they played Nebraska
years ago.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
In Lincoln, and we went down to Lincoln.

Speaker 9 (22:19):
And I got to do a game in Nebraska probably
the first and only time in my life. And it
was wonderful. But Nebraska was terrible. They had Scott Frost
and all that, but they still beat up. Coach Hammick's
team was one of those we pay you to come
and we beat you.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
But they did that at Notre Dame and it didn't happen.

Speaker 9 (22:37):
They didn't win, But I feel like this happens, you know,
every two or three years.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
To Notre Dame.

Speaker 9 (22:42):
Somebody gets them, somebody that's they're not supposed to lose
to because of their weird schedule and the independent nature
of it.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I mean, it happened with Marshall. It happened with Marshall
a couple of years ago, but to be quite honest,
it's really doesn't happen that often.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
It might fuel that way he got them.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
Yeah, I guess you're right, But I mean it just
feels like since they play a lot of kind of
obscure because they have a different schedule every year because
of the independence, and well the acc thing has made
it a little more simple or complicated however you want
to look at it. But yes, I was as surprised
as that as anybody. You got to have the explosive

(23:22):
play and a couple special teams, things go right, and
that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
For next up, they've got to buy and then USC
has got big ten play, They've got Michigan, they've got Wiscont, Minnesota,
Penn State. Based on what you've seen thus far better
prepare for Big ten player.

Speaker 9 (23:40):
Now, well, what about everybody, I mean, everybody's been talking about, Oh,
these West Coast teams are they're in trouble, They're going
to see what real football is like. And there's been
so much puffing and snuffing. And USC beat LSU, Mississippi
State lost to Arizona State, who lost nine games last year,

(24:01):
and CAL went to Jordan Hare and won. And Auburn
looked horrible, I mean bad. They weren't that bad on defense.
Cal can move the ball, they have a talented young quarterback,
play callers pretty good.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
And Auburn looked bad.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
And so it doesn't really look like, oh my god,
none of these West Coast team I mean, Washington State's
two and zero. They just beat Texas Tech and they
don't even have a conference. Well they have it, says
PAC twelve. There it looks so sad on the field.
So the narrative or whatever the story has kind of shifted,
at least to the beginning of the year. And now USC,

(24:39):
with the way they looked and the way Michigan looked
last week, does that look like a really tough game
for USC? I mean, it might be a tough game,
but it certainly looks like a winnable game at the
Big House. After what happened with Texas and Fresno, this
doesn't look like the same Michigan team, so I think
a lot of the myth of these West Coast Well,

(25:00):
see what happens with UCLA.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Indiana's coming out to play UCLA on Saturday.

Speaker 9 (25:04):
That'll be interesting because they look so offensively good in
their last game Indiana did and UCLA looked so offensively
enapt But it's a tough balance. I mean, LaVar and
Brady can tell you, probably better they played for longer
than me, is that you never really recognize yourself after
the first game. The first game doesn't tell the story
of your season, but if you're a good tackling team

(25:26):
or you've improved at tackling, it shows up and usually
it kind of hangs in there for the rest of
the year. And that's what USC showed me against Michigan.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
LSU Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think the one thing that stands out to me
that feels different this year, and it's like trying to
figure out how to handle the emotions, is with the
expanded playoff, you can lose one, you can probably lose
two maybe you know, and still make it in. And
this is so.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
Different than Larda State's going huh.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Well, I'm not saying Florida State. That's they're still looking
for a win. So it could be three, four to five.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
We don't know.

Speaker 9 (26:04):
Yeah, but it's interesting, right, like who's gonna lock arms
and get it all figured out?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Despite the demoralization of Boozinger.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
But even then, like we all played in eras where
if you lost a game, you're like, oh, well, we
don't control our own destiny, like you really felt like
you had to go undefeated or once you lost that
game like that, hope and dream is gone. And that
is now not very much the case at all. Like
there's gonna be teams, maybe even a team with three
losses that gets in this year.

Speaker 9 (26:33):
Yeah, it's it's well, and that's i think still sort
of like the weird sobering realizations. Right you're two weeks in,
you're three weeks in, and you're like, well, what does
this mean?

Speaker 4 (26:44):
And we still really don't know.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
We don't really know what the year is going to be, Like,
we don't know what it's going to really be. Like
when Washington and Oregon I mean, what about Oregon. They
don't look like the same team, do they. I mean,
I like Boise and I love that back. He ran
for two hundred at Otson, And if they didn't have
two kick returns, one of which where the guy dropped
the ball early, they would have lost to Boise, not

(27:08):
just not covered and not covered against Idaho, who just
went out and beat Wyoming. And they're not even an
FBS school. So a lot of confusion to start the year.
And we're gonna play an early Civil War Oregon and
Oregon State. Oregon is Oregon State just beat San Diego State.
Washington State's gonna play an early Apple Cup. They look

(27:30):
really good. It's gonna be pretty wild going forward. But
I think it's the same thing as I said all summer,
even though we're about a few weeks in. Nobody knows
what's gonna happen to anybody except for the forlorn rags
of growing old.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
If you're lucky when you look at it, you just
named off like pretty much all all packed former and
some current PAC twelve schools. Is it important to just
you having the pulse of what you know? True PAC
twelve fans and even media or what you know, whatever

(28:06):
it may be, is it is it important to see
those teams do well? Like does that give you, guys,
you know, a sense of you know, sense of pride.
I mean, I know, if it were us pride right
right and ease?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, let the children go.

Speaker 12 (28:24):
After I guess I don't know. I mean, is it
just not a care, like, don't care at all? Like
if it's for me, I mean, my petres. How do
you feel about it?

Speaker 6 (28:35):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
But they're still the representatives of your you know, your
beloved falling.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Smell That smell that petros smells like someone died.

Speaker 9 (28:45):
Yeah, well back spells like your wier dog died twenty
years ago. Hey, you still miss your wiener dog? Yes,
I still miss my winer dog. I always look, familiarity
breeds curiosity to me, right, So if I know a team,
even if it's some weird team like I'm doing North

(29:06):
Texas on Saturday, I'm probably gonna be interested in what
happens to North Texas for the rest of the year
and maybe next year. You know what I mean, because
you know about it. So I did the Pac ten
Game of the Week for ten years. You know, I
played in the PAC ten and people have been asking
me about the PAC ten slash PAC twelve for the

(29:27):
last twenty five years plus, So yeah, I pay attention
to those teams. I know the history of those teams.
I'm interested to see how they fare at the next level.
But I'm interested in West Virginia because I've done, you know,
twenty West Virginia games.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
In my life. So I guess for me, it's not
a great gauge.

Speaker 9 (29:49):
But I think people on the West Coast are still
following the West Coast teams regardless of where they are.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
I think it's I.

Speaker 9 (29:59):
Think it's confused because I think it's not just Okay,
let's sort it out. Cols in this conference, Arizona states
in this conference, Utah.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
Has got a great shot in the Big twelve.

Speaker 9 (30:11):
Blah blah blah. That's one thing to sort out. The
tougher thing to sort out is you don't really know
who you're gonna play every year, you know what I mean, Like,
there's eighteen teams in the Big ten. You could you
could miss somebody forever. And we used to have a
pretty normal travel partner type of especially with the basketball

(30:33):
season type of structure with the PAC twelve, I think
that part of it, and that's for everybody.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
You know, if you're at Purdue, you're like, who are
we playing this week? Jesus, you know.

Speaker 9 (30:42):
And they felt that way when Rutgers in Miami or
excuse me, Maryland came into the the Why Purdue anybody?

Speaker 6 (30:50):
You know what I'm saying, Because they've been in the
Big Ten forever.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
That's what the hell we play it?

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Penn State?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
What is this?

Speaker 9 (31:06):
Somebody asked me what Penn State was before they joined
the Big Ten?

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Like they were independent? We're independent?

Speaker 9 (31:14):
Yeah, it's hard, you know, I mean it's hard to
keep track. I think that's the hardest part is like
who we play it every year? That's the new question
had to.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Be Produce Petrous papadegg is joining Northwestern next week on
Fox Sports Radio E Pete based on all the drama,
all the story, you know, the poor play last week.

Speaker 9 (31:33):
How about Northwestern going to Washington in two weeks. Purple
on Purp Hell, Yeah, you don't see a lot of
Purp like that. I mean, you know, that's first team
all Purp.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Dann's like Prince Purple rain man, Oh god, it's gonna
be complained out there.

Speaker 9 (31:46):
Who where's purple Kansas State, LSU Washington that's it?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
And East Halton State. I mean, how far we're going
to take this thing?

Speaker 4 (31:54):
Tarlton is?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I mean Western Illinois like they've got purple purple Jonas
you son of a bitch. I'm just saying the leather necks.
So how do you think this finishes up or plays
out for Dion Sanders the rest of the way at Colorado?
Based on what you've seen?

Speaker 9 (32:12):
I don't know, but I broke my u my unbiased
nature and text at j Norvel.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Oh State coach.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
What was that text?

Speaker 5 (32:22):
I told rams, Oh, that's going to be a heated game.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
It's going to be an hour. It's going to be
a nine hour air raid, air raid, puzzo fight.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Was going to wipe the floor.

Speaker 9 (32:39):
Were They were the two same teams last year and
it was a war and it was folesome.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
The problem is CSU is even worse this year.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Your quarterback is a year older.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
All right, I promise you will it will not be
as close as last year.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Okay, I guarantee it a promise. There's a comfort to
a full Petcher's.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
When's the last time we had an air raid putto
fest in college.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I got one.

Speaker 9 (33:06):
Coach's number in my phone, and you have to sit
there and tell me they're gonna get the floor wiped
with them.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Brady techs a lot. You know I didn't beat Notre Dame.

Speaker 9 (33:14):
I wasn't the fat full back that ran for ninety
yards on that one.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
Play to take it out on me, tang.

Speaker 9 (33:22):
And you know what, I'll say this about the Ralphie
versus Cam the Ram, the Rocky Mountain showdown. Brady, Ralphie's
a girl, Okay, Cam the Ram's got huge balls. You
look up on you look up Cam the Ram balls
on Google and you'll see a real sack?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Is that what you typed into your computer?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
After I saw him in real life?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
And you don't allow your kids on your computer?

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Do you this one down here?

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah? We clear the history.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
It's part of doing business and research.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Look, here's the only thing I'll say is watching the
Texas CSU game Week one.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
They got blown off, They got blown off the field.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
It was awful.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Looked.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Texas is really good, don't get me wrong. But there
was also some times where you're like, oh, that guy
just doesn't want to fill and make a.

Speaker 9 (34:10):
Tackle like I'm told I was told maybe last year
or the year before when Jay Norvel was in the transition,
and I guess still is of turning Colorado State from
uh like an Adasio.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Rough and tumble power.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
Yeah, uh to an air raid Jaye Dorvel look like
a soft Big twelve team. And uh, I believe I
was told that a couple guys like they had the
game in front of them, get hurt so they weren't
gonna have to start and they just quit the team.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
So you might have something.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
But you know, when it's two air raid teams, you know,
I feel like, you know, it could be like two
super swool guys, but they're still shooting at each other
with NERF.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Guns, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I mean, uh, have you seen uh some problematic behavior
or or play at Colorado that would lead you to
believe I.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
Mean Chador leaving the field with two minutes left?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I mean, I don't know, you know, like, like what
what is.

Speaker 9 (35:13):
Strung rap song that we listened to Schadur's rap song
a lot this week on the show.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Oh, you'll get called a hater if you say anything,
you know, but then again, you don't.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Like disappearing it though, it.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yeah, I know. I mean some people, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
I wonder like what is going to be like, Hey,
this was a bad decision, Well wasn't wasn't Joel responsible for?

Speaker 13 (35:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (35:35):
They all feel pretty good about it because they get
attention and money.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
But I just look it.

Speaker 9 (35:40):
It feels like discipline wise on the field, play what
they value, what is celebrated, the whole style of of
of football top to bottom. Colorado feels like an overly
glorified the most glorified seven on sevent.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Team of all time?

Speaker 9 (36:00):
Right, shouldn't they change their name to like a more
seven on seven name?

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Like can't fade me?

Speaker 9 (36:09):
The Colorado was so yeah, the Colorado air asault head.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
The Colorado money boys exactly right, cash money Colorado football.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
How does the schadur song? Go?

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Got them back? Gets up on my neck on stails.

Speaker 12 (36:25):
Shine away.

Speaker 9 (36:32):
We thought it was like the N word, and we
kept playing it over and over again.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
We're like, there's a headword again.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
There it is again, and it's not. It's not the
N word.

Speaker 14 (36:42):
But that's why they I mean, it's it's like it's
like yesterday when Fred Rogan was playing the Tyreek Hill
body came rest and they left the f bombs in
live on the air.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Brett is Fred is barely doing the job.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Like, let's Jonas is up there every day.

Speaker 9 (37:07):
I know Jonas has to put him on his back
like Lieutenant Dan and run him out of the jungle.
Jonas says, three hours in the morning for six and
that bread on his back like Yoda running through the
the the degabus system.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Now that we're here, thoughts on Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
Shot Watson talk about like.

Speaker 9 (37:40):
That my ram can we yeah, the massage bandit because
he didn't play well.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
There's another allegation too.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
Oh somebody else said he had put.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Out This time they talked more about his buttocks, really
butt stuff.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
What did you do?

Speaker 6 (38:08):
Just flip over and like give a look, Well you
asked me. I don't know the.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Way she stated it.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
He just really really needed her focus on making sure
she rubbed it, both of them with equal attention and
like you know, pressure of the thumbs and fingers and all.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
That cock it up and whine.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
I mean, why wine river wind it winded?

Speaker 6 (38:45):
I don't know, you know.

Speaker 9 (38:47):
Al Gore and John Travolta also had some big massage alligation.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Did they who knew.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, al Gore, the.

Speaker 9 (38:56):
Guy who invented the internet, the guy that invented the
internet and global warming. He would come out of the
bathroom like, you know, with the robe open, like hey,
what's up? Allegedly same with Travolta, like hey man, you
see anything that.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Needs taking care of down there?

Speaker 9 (39:15):
Hey, by the way, why is Deshan Watson get all
the heat?

Speaker 4 (39:18):
I'll tell you why? Oh oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
And they've got a track record. Well, and they also,
you know some of the video they like to grab
for certain parts of the body. Well that's okay. Well,
I mean speaking of football. So you're doing North Texas
this weekend.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Yeah, hey, nice transition.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
But I was going to say, you know who the
most famous North Texas alum is Meet Joe Green.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Now they named the team after it mean Green, No
mean Joe Green.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I mean Hello Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Speaker 9 (39:53):
Oh that's right. They do the beer thing on the sideline. Yeah,
they do that celebration. They balk together. I guess it's
two like waters and cans.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
They do that. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
That's another air raid versus air raid team.

Speaker 9 (40:07):
So I have a North Texas versus Texas Tech and
that will be about.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
A nine hour game.

Speaker 13 (40:13):
Tyler shucks seventh year Shuck is not the quarterback at
Texas Tech, right, Baron Morton A Shuck I believe is
somewhere else now I know that, But I was just
I was thinking about him, for example, because there's a
lot of guys who got their seventh year.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
I'm still trying to figure out how that math adds up.

Speaker 9 (40:32):
Well, look at the Cam Rising got hurt again. Yeah, yeah,
toss quarterback Kyle went.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
It's two red shirts and the COVID year.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Is that?

Speaker 9 (40:40):
Two red shirts and a COVID year twenty five outfits
and a mic check?

Speaker 11 (40:45):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (40:46):
This guy, Cam Rising is old and Whittingham never tells
anybody if he's going to play or not. It's literally
like it will never end before Kyle Whittingham retires. Please
Cam Rising be done playing at UTAH so you don't
have to mess with all the weird broadcasters and tell
them all.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (41:06):
He's a great leader, He's gonna play and then you
run out some pig farmer walk on from outside Salt
stop doing it, Utah, play play the game like everybody else. Jesus,
Cam Rising guy has been probable for every game since
two thousand and nine. The weird thing is he started
at Texas.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I know if you if you really think about it,
he hasn't been at Utah for the entirety of his career.
Some of the players have been like one school forever,
but most of them transferred.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
To Morgan Scally the Utah defensive coordinator and coach, and
Waiting was a senior safety when Cam Rising was Fishment.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Dang, well, listen, it's always fun ride here pee at
the old pon x he beyond.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
I feel bad about NIU, but I think the Irish
can bounce.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Back North Texas Texas Tech. That's a nine o'clock Pacific time,
noon Eastern time kick on FS one this Saturday. You
can catch Petros there and he's a Tyler Schuck playing
who knows well?

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Can somebody find out? Well?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Not in time.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
No, it's too important to get the forty year old
Steven saga.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, com is at? Is he a Louisville?

Speaker 8 (42:20):
Now?

Speaker 6 (42:22):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
All right, Petros, we appreciate it. We'll do it again
next week.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
There he is, He's at Louisville.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Now, there you go.

Speaker 9 (42:30):
The only mascot that has teeth. It's a bird tang.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
That's a great point. By the way.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
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Speaker 1 (42:46):
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Speaker 2 (42:56):
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Speaker 4 (43:00):
How we feeling?

Speaker 3 (43:01):
You feeling good? Glad to be back. Sorry about missing yesterday,
but you know, I had some things to attend to.

Speaker 8 (43:08):
With the ankle and all that.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
You know, what did they say?

Speaker 3 (43:11):
We definitely definitely didn't come up with some creative stories.
By the way, I was asking people last night what
stories they would want to tell about how I hurt
my ankle, although Lorena wasn't here, so Lorena probably could
come up with like a better story than at least
maybe some of you guys did.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Were you saving babies?

Speaker 4 (43:27):
There? You go?

Speaker 3 (43:28):
What I told people was I was saving cats and
geese in Springfield, Ohio, and I calling my killing.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Oh no, no, Well, have you got any imaging done
or what's the results look like.

Speaker 8 (43:44):
Yeah, so it's not broken.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Unfortunately it was too swollen to get an MRI done,
so I have to go next week. And they called
me yesterday because I was supposed to go in this
upcoming Monday, and they said, well, we would like you
to go at this time to this place on Monday,
but unfortunately your foot's gonna be too big or too
tall for this MRI machine.

Speaker 8 (44:08):
Like, well, I don't know what kind of MRI machine
it is.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Apparently it's like a foot specific one, and so I
have to go to a different place now, but it's
gonna take a week instead of the I don't know. Again,
I have no idea like what that means. But they're like, yeah,
you're gonna be too big for that MRI machine.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
What do they got, like garden Nome MRI machines? Like
they don't have anything to you.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
They looked at him and they were like, there is
no way he was going to that.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Kid's got another one on the way.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
There's no way that Brady to fit, no way, no
grunted going on.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
I think the best compliment ever.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Man, we're not able to go deep en up inside
the show.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Well, listen now that's good. No broken bones, MRI. I
are waiting, but oh yeah, too soon. On the on
the medical front, Uh, scary situation for the Miami Dolphins.
Last night Thursday night football Bills Dolphins Bills look great,
by the way, that'll be the side story to all

(45:28):
of the conversation through.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
I don't know, I say great. I don't know that's it,
but they look like the Bills.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Hey, short week on the road, that's that's a damn
good performance. You ask me.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
They got out game, they didn't have close to time possession.
The only thing that really led them to that score
looking like that was turnovers and and and look here's
the headline of that game. That was a game that
was set up for Miami to win for a lot
of the reasons you just mentioned. Short week at home.
They were without Toron Johnson, they don't have Matt Milano.

(46:03):
Like if not now, then when. And Josh Allen has
owned the Miami Dolphins over the thirteen starts he's had
against them, he's had I think he averages about three
hundred and twenty five total yards of offense per game.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
Like think about that.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
That's like we always used to go back and look
at Aaron Rodgers, how he owned Chicago because he would
always beat Chicago. He was at putting up stats like that,
and at least during this span with Tua being there,
I think there were one in six now one and
seven before that game.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
I mean, if you want to talk about.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
A player owning a team, Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills
have owned the Miami Dolphins, and that was quite possibly
the worst possible outcome for all parties involved. For the
Dolphins side with not only taking that loss the way
you did, to a playing the way he did before
the injury, and then having that injury that we're all

(46:59):
scared about for him because we know they have no
shop without him, and now that's the sort of injury
that he if he has won more, his career might
be over.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Man, that's what I was gonna now. Mike McDaniel, the
head coach of the Dolphins, did speak afterwards in talking
about his feelings on the entire situation. Let's take a
listen for me.

Speaker 15 (47:20):
I'm not worried about anything that's out of my hands
in terms of I'm just worried about the human being.
And you know, he'll drive the drive the ship when
we get the appropriate information.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
But it's day by day health.

Speaker 15 (47:38):
I don't approach things that I'm far inferior of expertise.
I'm just there to support my teammate, like I said,
And I think for me to go ahead and forecast
the things that I don't know in my non field
of expertise, I don't think that's appropriate. I think we'll

(47:58):
find out some more information tomorrow in terms of where
two is at.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
He'll be able.

Speaker 15 (48:04):
To spend a good amount of time being evaluated, and
then we'll have conversations and progress as appropriate.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
So this was my thought on it because I saw
immediately people throughout the he should consider retiring. He's made
his money, Why risk it based on the history with concussions,
all that stuff that we've seen, And to me, it
comes down like there's two people that make that decision.
It's the doctors and it's too ah And if he's
cleared and he passes concussion protocol and that testing is

(48:39):
up to snuff and they feel like he's got a
clean bill of health, I have no issue with him
going back in there. I think anybody could run the
risk of getting a concussion, and I know he's got
a history of it. But if they feel like he's clear,
then I think he should be allowed to go in
and play if he chooses to. But I think there's
going to be people that will look at him with

(49:02):
a side eye and think this is reckless. We can't
do this when really it feels like anybody could get
a concussion at any point in time, but the way
that they do, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
They do get concussions. Guys get concussions. I mean people
get concussied. The only difference here is is we've seen
it play out with Tua in a way.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
That is it's scary.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
It's a scary thing when you see Ta get a
concussion after seeing the history of it. I know, you know,
al Michaels took some heat for what he had to
say about the play that took place because it was
Damar Hamlin that actually hit him, which I agree with
al Michaels. I mean, it was like kind of.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
A it's ironic.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
I mean, yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
I mean, man, but to that point, listen, whatever it
is that Tua desats to do, it certainly has to
be a a doctor's expertise in saying what he should
do first. That's first and foremost. You gotta have the
information first before you make the decision. Otherwise that's just

(50:08):
it's a foolish decision. You don't want to risk your life,
you know. I don't care if you make the money
or not. You if you need to walk away from
the game based upon the prognosis of what your health
long term will be, then that's what you need to do.
And that's case closed. But like you said, if he

(50:29):
is given that bill of health and he is cleared,
then this that's no one's that's no one's right to
tell him what they think he should do or judge him.
I mean, that's what people do. Anyway, they're going to
judge you, and they're going to have something to say.
The man made an athletic move to try to get
to the end zone to try to help his team win.
Unfortunately he got hit, and that's something that I would say,

(50:53):
and Q, you tell me if I'm wrong on this one,
and maybe I am, but he has to know he
cannot take any hits like that's to me. The bottom
line is, don't put yourself in harm's way that way,
No way, no how Yes, I mean to figure out
I don't know he can't.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
He can't. You can't take hits like that.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
I would tell a regular quarterback, you do not, dude,
do not take hits like that. These are the type
of hits you do not take. Now, I'm telling Tua, bro,
you know, you know you're not supposed to take hits
like that. Please do not risk yourself like that anymore.

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We'll live to fight another day, We'll live to fight
another down. But do not take those types of hits.
He's got to know that, he has to know that.
That's just my opinion on it, though.

Speaker 8 (51:47):
No I know, and I think it's it's right, it's
the right opinion.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
I think that's what a lot of people are thinking
that watch the game and watch that play.

Speaker 8 (51:54):
Go Why did he go ahead first? Why? Why did
he need to go ahead first?

Speaker 3 (52:00):
I personally look back on it, and there's there's points
in times when as a quarterback, you will dive head
first as opposed to sliding, and it's only because you
get the advantage of the extra distance, meaning when you
go to dive, even though you're kind of presenting yourself
as down when you when you go and dive, the
ball is going to be forward as opposed to when

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you slide and you kind of you know, go to
you know to as your butt like goes to hit
the ground, whatever the balls, that's where they're going to
end up marking it as you begin your slide, because
you're declaring yourself down.

Speaker 8 (52:33):
When you dive head first, it's kind of the opposite.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
You know, you got to be like almost tagged down
because you don't get the same protections when you slide
feed first as compared to when you dive headfirst. So
they're trying to get quarterbacks to always slide to get
that protection. But oftentimes, when you're sliding, since your feet
go down first, your upper body is exposed. And I've
always talked to quarterbacks about this, like you feel more

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vulnerable sliding feed first, even though you're protected, and if
guys hits you, you're probably gonna draw a flag. But
more often than not, you end up getting hit in
a way that could could cuss you, could hurt you.
So I understand why some guys don't like to do it.
But that was an instance where he easily could have,
and I don't really understand why he didn't because he

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had an opportunity to give it.

Speaker 8 (53:19):
His history and everything else. I'm not saying that he's
gonna have that in the back of his.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Head, but he's got to reprogram and retrain himself, yeah,
to be in the moment, to be able to, you know,
sit there and say, when I'm in this situation, I
have to slide. I can't afford to put myself in
the position where I might get knocked out again.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
It did.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
It seem also like DeMar Hamlin wasn't expecting him to
come like it, come in like that, because it.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Wasn't the type of hit that made you think he
was gonna knock a guy out like.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
It almost like he initiated the contract contact. It wasn't
like DeMar Hamlin went up on him like to a
ran into him.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
They ran into Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a collision.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
I just I wonder, especially with his is like the
discussion surrounding him and how that played out. And look,
you know the one that was that played out was
also on Thursday night football that was against the Bengals.
So it's the fact that these have also taken place
on a standalone stage and you've seen all these discussions
and conversations being had. I just wonder, Look, is it

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possible that he gets cleared in the next few days
to play next week, and then what does the conversation
like that turn into for the Dolphins.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
Can we go back to the tackle before? Yeah, and
I'll let Q answer that. But it was a routine
tackle like Damar Hamlin came in. It wasn't like totally
hit up. I'm going over it again right now. It
was it was the contact to the side of his head.

(54:51):
That's what did it Like it was a side It
was a routine tackle, and it was the contact of
of how Damar Hamlin's maybe shoulder or arm and body
at the same time impacted the side of to his head.
I've seen it one hundred times over. I've done it

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one hundred times over. It's that temple. It was he
hit him basically, he hit him on his temple and
that was that was what to me that I mean
one hundred percent, that was the collision. That was the
force that caused that concussion. So that it wasn't like
it was Damar didn't expect it or anything like it

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was a routine tackle.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
It was just it was a routine.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Tackle with an angle he hit like he made contact
with to his head and and that's that was the
contact point of of why that happened.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
But gohead, you answered that, well, I.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Just my thought on it is if they do the
testing this week and he clears concussion protocol and we've
seen players get injured one week and get cleared for
the next week before. But like, let's it's just are
they do they have to almost mandatorily sit him at
least a couple of games, just from an optic standpoint

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because probably oh okay, yeah, that's.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Yeah, which now impacts the Dolphins.

Speaker 8 (56:16):
Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
I mean, I think that's the one thing we know
is and it's and it's funny because I've got people
who are not the biggest to his supporters or fans,
even though they're Dolphins fans, and they look at that
injury and they're like, oh, now I feel bad because
I rag on them all the time. And I go, well,
you should also feel bad because watch what happens to
this team without him. Yeah, you know, say whatever you

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want about you know too. And he did not play
well last night. Of the three PIXI threw, I would
say two of them were for sure on him. But
he's trying to throw it away. He's he's he wasn't
able to get it out of bounds. The other one,
you know, it looked like, yeah, it looked like this.
The second one might have been either a miscommunication or
he just got really confident in his ability to throw

(57:01):
over the linebacker and before the cornerback. But you know,
at that point it looked like Robby Anderson, or excuse me,
Robby chosen maybe should have pushed a little further if
he's going to keep going, whatever the case may be.
I'm not sure if it was a miscommunication, so I
don't necessarily want to throw it on him.

Speaker 8 (57:17):
But it didn't look good either way. But he didn't
play well and he struggled versus the Bills.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
And that's the hard thing is you know, you see
that and you go, oh, man, like you can frustrated
with his level of play, but you have no shot
if he's not in.

Speaker 8 (57:30):
There as your quarterback.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
And that's the reality of the Dolphins are faced now,
especially coming off of a contract extension, where you feel
like you're invested, you're all in, you're behind this guy.
Now you feel like he's one concussion away from maybe
having to retire. And I know you're I know you're
saying joys logo. If he's clear, if the doctor says cleared.
At some point there's gonna be a neurologist that looks

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at him and says, you've had enough of these that
have been documented. I don't know how many that haven't
been It's probably not wise for you to Getntinue to
play the game of football. That conversation is going to
start coming his way at some point.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
That's going to be the hardest point.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
That's that is going to be the hardest aspect of
first game out of the gate, first game out of
the gate. This is what happens to you, well, second
second game, second game, second.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Game, Uh, that's to me, that's what tuas.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Like, second game out.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Recut the first Thursday game out of the.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
First Thursday game out of the gate, and this happen.
Here's the point though, that is going to be the
old and forget storylines, right, The storylines are storylines. They're
they're going to right themselves. They're going to they're going
to show themselves. This is something that this team is

(58:58):
going to have to deal with every single time to it.
Like think about that, like let's let's put in perspective,
how many times did you have that feeling about one
of your teammates Q Like you're looking at your teammate
going out there on the field and you're like, man,
this could be the game where my boy is done

(59:19):
like forever. This is it for him, Like if he
gets hit the wrong way, this is it for him.
How many times have you thought about that going into
the game for one of your teammates in particular.

Speaker 8 (59:32):
I don't know. It's a good question.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
I can't think of any. I can't think of any.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
There was one, okay, one, yeah, think about that in
the history of you playing that game or or and
during your I mean, for me during my career.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Mike Glazer.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
Mike Glazer in high school, I get like him, Yeah,
because he was a stone cold freak and he'll hit
you like he was straight up hit you. And he
was too little and he always his little ass out.
So Mike Glazer. So I got one two high school
Mike Glazer. What shuts out to you Glasser. But but
that's it. So so to put it in perspective, if

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you really are going out there and you're thinking about
to yourself, man, like this could be it for my
bro like this this, this could be the game, this
could be the hit, like and you're always going to
have that in the back of your mind with Tua now,
like maybe you've maybe teetered on it before, but if
you didn't teeter on it before, you are one hundred

(01:00:35):
percent on that boat now. And how do you go
through a season that way? I mean, is it the
offensive line because he was under duress, they were getting
after him, they were they were making it uncomfortable for him.
Is it the offensive line that they just turned into
grown men and it's like, no one will penetrate this
line and harm our quarterback, no one, Like what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Like? Is it the running game that had a nice
running game going? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I think it's on him, man, that one's on him,
Like that was a scramble play and there were options
there and he chose that one.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
I mean, I ain't mad at it. I ain't mad
at you for saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
That is all before we do what we normally do today. Yeah,
if you guys, welcome back Lorena.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yes, yes, of course she was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
I was.

Speaker 8 (01:01:22):
I wasn't here yesterday, so I heard that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
It was like y'all tagged in you know what I mean,
like like tag me in, partner, tagged me in, and
you were out, and here she was in. She was
on the injured list, then boom, then she came back
off the i R. And then damn, and then you
went on the injured list and then you know, so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
I mean, Lorena, do you want to do the honors?
Do you want to announce what the special day is?

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:01:43):
For me, sure, Okay, I'm really excited about this because
the season just started, so it really is football.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Yeah, come on, yeah, all this Friday, this football Friday.
Let's do it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:04):
Let's do it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Let's do it. Brady's ankle, Brady, Brady's ankle, Let's do one.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
It's on Friday Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Come on, let's come on, come on, let's do it.
Let's do it. Pitch ankle. Did oh right there bro yo.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Hits comes walking of lights?

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Come on, come on, yeah, okay, let's do this right,
Let's do this right for you?

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Eddie? This all right, come on, Eddie.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Friday night is a football Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Football Friday, rock do it? Catch it? Spiky football Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Hell yeah, it is a football Friday. Here on Fox
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