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Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Ravens franchise tagged Lamar Jackson and accusations of collusion are not overblown. The Packers allowed the Jets to visit with Rodgers in California, but would he going to New York tie his legacy even closer to Favre? Plus, toilets and hard seltzers at stadiums on ICYMI.
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can't do it, quick, can't do it. And race guess
what though, what buckle up? The Baltimore Ravens did it. Yeah,
they did that exclusive or non exclusive tag where the
Baltimore Ravens decided, you know what, Lamar Jackson, go see
what else is out there. And if we decide we
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don't want to match whatever offer you get, we're just
gonna get that team's next two first round picks and
we're gonna and if you don't get any sort of
deal and you sign this tag, it's gonna be thirty
two point four million dollars. Now, he could hold out,
I guess if he wanted to. Who knows what that
would turn into. But point is, the Baltimore Ravens and
Lamar Jackson have been negotiating on a contract for long
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enough and now you got a bunch of people running
around calling out collusion that all these teams saying they're
not interested in Lamar Jackson. This is clearly Steve Bashotti
getting in the years of other owners, etc. Etc. Bottom
line is they try to get a deal ont done.
Now they're gonna take this approach and they're gonna let
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Lamar are trying to see what else is out there.
And I think it's going to be fascinating to watch.
It will be. And look, some of the calls for
collusion do seem it does seem like there's something there
all right. You've got the Atlanta Falcons who have cap space.
Clearly Lamar Jackson there would be an upgraded quarterback, and
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they come out right away and say they're not interested.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You either have
a bad front office that doesn't want to at least
inquire to see what the offer would be worth or
what he's looking for, or your owner's telling you something
because he's talking to Steve Mashotti and other owners within
the league. Carolina David Tepper, he's got deep pockets. Lamar
Jackson been upgrade on that roster they come out and
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say they're not interested. Now the Miami Dolphins, it's a
little different scenario. They still have two ways under a
first round contract. I think most people would say Lamar
Jackson would be an upgrade to Tua. Lamar Jackson's from
South Florida, so there will kind of be a homecoming
of or It's The difficulty with Miami trying to be
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a part of the mix now is they don't have
a first round pick for twenty twenty three. You have
to have consecutive first round pick, so right now, if
you're going to make a deal, you have to have
a twenty twenty three first round pick in at twenty
twenty four. Now, nothing excludes Miami from after the draft
making an offer where they would have a twenty twenty
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four and twenty twenty five, but as it currently stands,
they wouldn't be able to make an offer sheet at
this current juncture. But to come out and say you're
not even going to contemplate it if even when the
time's right, it's just a bit surprising, And it does
bring about the thought of collusion, because look, no one
wanted the Browns and Jimmy Haslem to give Deshaun Watson
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a five year fully guaranteed deal. It calls into question
a lot of issues that there are within the CBA
for the Escoro rule and then having to have that
amount of money's tied up in a scrow account, So
it really forces these owners to be a lot more
liquid than they probably would like to be. And it's
an outdated rule, but still it's it's currently still in place,
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So no one wants to be able to be shoving
out fully guaranteed contracts like what Deshaun Watson. God, but
I don't think you need to collude necessarily to have
every other owners set out, you know, go out there
and say, yeah, we're not interested, or we made an offer,
but it wasn't an offer that you know, Lamar was
willing to accept. Like like, I don't think if there
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is collusion going on, it's ignorant on the on the
part of the owners because I don't think they need
to do that. I think they could have a coordinator
response of hey, this is what we were off of you. Sorry,
it's not fully guaranteed deal, but you miss them games
the past two seasons. We've got some concerns about your
well being. You know, outside of just being a dynamic runner,
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and even though you'd be an upgraded quarterback for us,
we're not sure really, you know, how we build our
roster around you to make you most successful. But the
bottom line is this is it's gonna be a fascinating
scenario to see who's in the mix. And here are
some dates to kind of keep in mind. So basically,
any team has the ability to put in an offer
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sheet until July seventeenth, so that means they can put
forth any offer and if Lamar agrees to it, all right,
he's gonna take it back to the Baltimore Ravens, and
the Ravens have to the side if they want to
match or receive the two first round picks we talked about.
Now at that point in July seventeenth, if there's no
long term deal that's agreed upon, Lamar would then go
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into the season playing under the one year guaranteed franchise tag. Now,
he doesn't have to show up for week one. In fact,
I don't believe he has to show up till week
ten in order to make it in a crude season.
We have had people do that before. Vincent Jackson was
one that comes to mind, so he could technically sit
out until week ten come in play and then finish
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out this tag, and you'd assume that Baltimore is not
gonna tag him again giving out things have worked out.
So that's where we're at, and again it's gonna be
fascinating to see who makes an offer, what deals are
out there, or if a lot of other teams are
giving him the same feedback that the Baltimore Ravens gave
him in regards to looking for a long term deal.
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I think if you look back on it, Versati was
the most vocal about Haslam and the Browns and just
what that meant to him and how much he thought
that that was a miss. You know, it would just
something that should have never happened. And now that we're
looking at it, maybe he's right. But in terms of
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it possibly being collusion, of course, it could possibly be collusion.
I mean that if if they're forced to have to
pay a quarterback the type of money somewhere in and
around where where Deshaun Watson is, then so is Jacksonville,
So is Buffalo, so is the Chargers, So you know,
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so are they There's I mean, there's going to be
teams that have to continue to push that number up.
So there is a vested interests not for the benefit
and the sake of Brashadi and the Ravens, there's a
vested interest in the franchise themselves not having to pay
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out that amount of money to a quarterback that they're
going to have to re up. You know, Joe Burrow like,
these guys are going to rewrite what the quarterback gets paid.
But I think we're looking at it still where I
don't know. They just don't want that number and that
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price tag to get too far away from where they
wanted to get to, so as it applies to colluding
or even just the idea of coming out and saying,
these are the reasons why we wouldn't take you, or
wouldn't want to take I mean, Lamar Jackson's better than
ninety percent of the quarterbacks that are starting in the
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league right now. I'd say he's better than one hundred
percent of the quarterbacks coming into the league right now,
because we don't know what those quarterbacks are going to do.
That's all based upon potential, and quarterbacks have been injured
while in the NFL. I don't think that there's any
reasoning that is sound enough outside of it just being
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you know, there may be a couple that just truly
feel like they don't want to take a risk on
what the injury scenario would be. That's fine, But for
they're not to be one team that says that this
is worth two draft picks, first round draft picks to
bring this guy in and hammer out a deal, something
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is incorrect. Like I don't think you have to be
a rocket scientist to put two and two together in
this equation and know that something is incorrect. If a
team doesn't want to improve by bringing in a talent,
a rare talent by the way, like Lamar Jackson. I mean,
could one of these teams, like the Falcons or the
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Panthers or some of these other teams that have been
rumored that aren't interested in Lamar Jackson? Could it be
as simple as they were asked a question and they
don't want to tip their hand, and so they're just
going to say, well, we're not interested because maybe they're
trying to look at other options like a draft pick
or something else like that, or don't I don't know that.
I think that the NFL PA and I think that
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how quickly players reacted to it leads me to believe
that they expected that this was going to happen, that
there was that they were They already had the collusion
card ready to be pulled, and the second the Ravens
were going in this direction because we talked about it
on Monday that this was the expectation from some people
around the league. It was Jeremy Fowler VSPN and reported it.
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And it almost feels like both sides are still playing
the game like who wants to get there their message out?
Who wants to get their narrative out? And now it's
turned into collusion when initially it was Hey, Baltimore is
going to do this and they're going to try and
show him. These are what the offers are going to
look like. And now the idea to Brady's point that
Atlanta just wouldn't be interested in Lamar Jackson, I don't
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buy that for a second. I think Atlanta's absolutely would
be interested in Lamar Jackson if there was an opportunity
to land him. Again, what team wouldn't be interested. Every
team that's capable of being able to And by the way,
let me just go over one other thing too, So
you don't necessarily have to have two first round picks
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in order to provide an offer sheet. You do in
that sense if you want to facilitate a trade. But
what you could do is you could talk with Lamar,
because he's obviously the one representing himself and the NFLPA
and whoever else is involved, and you could say, look,
we'll do a sign and trade. You signed the tag,
we'll trade. This will be the deal. And it could
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technically work out that way for a team that doesn't
have a first round pick in twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four, so it doesn't have to be where
they have those two first round picks. But I just
I kind of go back to the idea that if
it was collusion amongst the owners, you know, they're playing
checkers and not chess. Because to Jonas's question or point
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of this, if this was a coordinated response by the NFLPA,
which is definitely something they would do, because the NFLPA
many times where they have issues with the CBA, they
just go and they bark and they just say things
to the media and it has no teeth to it,
instead of actually when they're at a negotiation table trying
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to hammer out some of these details, being one to
sacrifice to make change. They just complain about it and
then nothing happens and they can never prove it. That's
how it works out. Like I'm just telling you from
from years of being a player and in being in
these conversations to now like looking back on it and
still understanding the process. That's that's what it always is.
They just complain. They're like that little chihuaha that barks
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a lot but has no bite whatsoever. And so if
you're the owners, like you honestly wouldn't even have to
confront this head on if you just said, look, if
you're an owner and interested, reach out talk to him.
But I'm sure you're not gonna want to do a
fully guaranteed deal that surpasses to Shaun Watson for his
talents either, because we don't feel like anyone deserve that
deal yet in this league. Now I might get there
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one day, but I mean, and maybe Mahomes is the
guy that deserves a boast, but we didn't feel like
anyone at that time deserve that deal. So it could
be a harsh reality that Lamar Jackson faces. As I
said before, like there's a chance Steve Bashatti, you know,
might have offered him something better than what anyone else
is willing to offer him, and he comes back and
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plays for the Ravens, either on the one year tag
or on a long term deal that might be a
discount to what Bishatti's already offered him. I just think
that that's if that's the approach, then that relationship is
dead in the water. And if it's dead in the water,
you're not going to get the best version of your player. Well,
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there's one way to ensure that it's dead in the water.
Have Little Danny pop in. And that's the team that
I think makes the most sense. Think about this. If
you're Dan Snyder and let's say all these other owners
are trying to get you to sell the team, what
is a better parting gift again? Signing Lamar Jackson to
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a fully guaranteed deal that surpasses to Sean Watson and
saying bye bye and then selling the team. You talk
about the ultimate middle finger to every other owner out there?
Is that not it by by Little Danny? Want me
to say, I'll talk about this before you stirred this
up last week, and now we we could be staring
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at the Ultimate Revenge by Dance Tier saying okay, let
me just go and talked about it last week, but
that's actually possible because of Baltimore using the non exclusive franchise.
Little Danny says, Okay, here's a lit stick of dynamite
in your lap before I go, everybody have fun, see
you later. Come on, let's go. And you know Baschatti
and him don't like each other, so let's go each other.
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They would do I mean, he should do it. Listen.
Here's here's the thing. Baltimore has now made it clear
to Lamar that they they don't want him is as
much as he thought they did. Whatever the number is
that he felt was fair, and whatever the number is
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that Baltimore thought was fair is so far away that
they put a non like to me, the biggest the
biggest thing here is it being non exclusive, right Like,
that's that's the one word, or the two words put together,
or it's not two words, but that's the word non
exclusive that really has to jump out at you in
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this scenario. You think I'm so bad once you go
out to happy hour and see what it's like out there. Huh.
I mean, that's you you basically have now told him
how you truly feel about him. To your point, this
is the worst case scenario for Lamar's and not yea.
He might end up losing what thirty forty fifty million
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dollars on whatever deal he gets if he signs it.
And then you go back and you look at the
reports that Baltimore had one hundred eighty million dollars on
the table guaranteed. Look, I said it from the beginning.
He needs to get ro Quan Smith's agent. If he
gets Roquan Smith's agent, he can get a deal done.
And Roquan Smith did all hammered out and I don't
even think he finished the season. That's I think low
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key one of the things that's on the table here
right Like, he doesn't have representation, and the irony is
he's using the nfl PA now to like consult and
help him with this. And yet they're the ones that
have ostracized agents to the point where they've lowered the
standard representation agreement fee and they've made the rookie draft
salary pool that of which most players don't even really
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have an agent do contract work because it's only two
things they're negotiating on the rookie deal, so it's really
the second contract, a lot of agents trying to get
to with the player, and even during negotiations with a CBA,
they never rely on agents who are always communicating with
teams and with players because of the position that they're in.
You look at every other professional sports league, the agents
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all play a role in every labor dispute. It's crazy
to me how ignorant the NFLPA is in regards to
the involvement of agents and how much more they should
be involved when it comes to a lot of these situations.
And so now you've got a player who chose not
to have an agent. He's been happy with the offers
that he's are being made, and had he had an agent,
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you know, maybe he would get an offer that's close
to what he wants, but not quite exactly what he wants.
Here's the reality. That's always what happens in negotiations. I mean, again,
looking at the Jimmy HASSLM situation and him making the
offer for Deshaun Watson, it literally makes no sense. It
makes no sense. I mean, that deal for that player,
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given what he had done and given what he had
going on around him. It makes no sense. I mean,
they were just in a desperate, desperate time, and it
feels like it was more emotionally motivated by the relationship
with Baker Mayfield than anything else, Like whatever happened between
Jimmy Hassel and Baker Mayfield to push Jimmy Haslm to
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react so emotionally and do a deal like that that
really disrupted the entire league. It It doesn't make any
other sense otherwise, because no one from a business standpoint
would want to sign a quarterback to that, especially the
way Watson looked his past year when he played. And
so now you find yourself in a position where you've
got a player who doesn't have an agent and he
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can't figure out how to really figure like know what
his market value is. Well, he's gonna get to find
out now. And that's the tough part, I think too,
for being a player when you don't have representation is
usually you want or need a buffer between you and
the person during the negotiation so you don't have to
make it emotional. And that's the tough part is that's
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the position now that Lamar is still in until he
hires someone to help out with this entire process. It
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that Aaron Rodgers has spoken to the New York Jets,
and apparently not only is Aaron Rodgers spoken to the
New York Jets, but reports say that the Jets sending
contingue of team officials, which included owner Woody Johnson, head
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coach Robert Sala, GM Joe Douglas, and offensive coordinator Nathaniel
Hackett to meet with Rodgers in California on Tuesday, and
last I check, that was tampering unless you got permission
from your current team to go ahead and speak to them,
which feels like, maybe this is the beginning of the
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departure of Aaron Rodgers from Green Bay and maybe he's
on his way to New York to follow in the
footsteps of the great Brett Farve. And away we go
with more juicy NFL talk into it. I mean, do
you know the odds of a team having one Hall
of Fame quarterback follow up another Hall of Fame quarterback,
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and then as their careers winding down with that specific team,
they both go to the same team to continue playing.
I mean, honestly, like, I don't think we'll ever see
anything like this ever again. It's so it's so identical
that it's weird. It almost feels planned, like maybe that's
what happened. He crawled underground, he hung out with earthworms,
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part of the script and golfers, and they said, hey,
smoke this and you're gonna end up in New York.
Or maybe Brett Farr went there a little earlier, like
a few hours earlier and built him a volleyball court. Sorry,
or maybe he was just in the Brett far voice
room and he was like the voice of God and
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Aaron Rodgers's head in the hobbit hole with with Wrangler
ads playing over the speakers. You have Wrangler, yeahs copperfit. Yeah, yeah,
it's so straight. You need to go to New York.
Yeah for like twenty four or forty eight hours. Just
put the phone down, you know. But I'm just saying
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words of advice, all right? Can cannot circle back around
to Lamar Axon with the Aaron Rodgers topic. Why wouldn't
New York not only be entertaining Aaron Rodgers, but entertaining
Lamar Jackson now that he has a franchise tag on
him that's non exclusive. Yeah, you think that that that
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would be the move if it can't work out with Rogers,
right right. But I get the sense more that Robert
Solids feeling a little more heat and pressure, and given
Nathaniel Hackett being there as the OC, it's just a
better fit. And I think if you had to look,
if you had to pick short term between the two,
you'd pick Rogers. I mean, come on, short term, I mean,
I'm not gonna say I would pick Rogers short term though,
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just for the simple fact that I'm not quite sure
if he really wants to play. I think back, you
have to assume that he wants to play, like he's
not just coming back to come back. That's a lot
of money to walk away from, my guy. Like some
guys come back, come back like to get that money.
They don't. They don't come back in and are the
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best version of them els they come. Yeah, but he
cares about his legacy. I think he cares about what
happens after this. I actually you would say there's probably
more pressure on who he's going to be and who
he's trying to be if he makes this move. I mean,
everything's heightened. He's in a tougher division, He's in a
New York media market that's going to scrutinize everything he's said, done,
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will do, and it's all gonna be about, well, what
is he after the Green Bay Packers. I just feel
like if there's more pressure, I don't disagree that there
would be external more pressure involved because that is an
unforgiving market. I just think he could tell you all
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his stats. We've we've heard it, he could tell you
all of his accomplishments. I think his legacy is fine.
I mean, whatever it's going to be. He's not going
to New York I mean at all. But you're telling
me if he goes there and he makes a few
passes at you know, some areas individuals where some photos
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are leaked out of him in crocs and if they
don't win, I mean, you're telling me that doesn't play
a part of his Like I said, no one's gonna
remember that in the future. I don't think so. I really,
I don't think so. When it's all well, I mean,
how many people would remember Brett Farve and his time
in New York we I mean, other than the crocs
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and the photos. I think a lot of people. Actually,
I don't know. I don't know. I mean all Jets
fans deal, I'll put it that way. I don't they
remember how that went. I think they were eight and eight.
I think they were eight and eight that year. I mean,
they weren't bad. They weren't a bad team. When when
Crocks on the team, the Silver Fox, I mean, listen,
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I all I know is Aaron Rodgers is a back
to back MVP winner of the league, his his his
legacy is solidified. He's not let me ask you guys
this outside of him making the rest of his money.
Do you think he's honestly going to New York to
win super Bowls? He's going to win the Super Bowl
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in the NFC, in the ac K their rosters. I mean,
I would say what I asked you are they're y'all
saying that him going. I would bet on them to win.
They're seast Okay, really would you bet on with them
making it to the AFC Championship Round or to the
Super Bowl? Yes, I take that roster. I take that
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that roster they have to They have arguably the best
cornerback in the league. Now, I'll take that bet one
hundred times out of a hundred times. We could bet
that right now. I'd be surprised that they even made
the playoffs. You have to give odds if that's the case.
You know how that works, right, No, I'm not giving
odds straight up, Then you don't understand how better plus
understanding betting. I'm telling you here is the best I think,
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because if you understood betting, you would then say that
I'm in an extreme disadvantage for selecting one of sixteen
teams to make it there or you have to at
least give me eight to one odds. Come on, no odds,
we're going head up. Let's spit on your hand. I
spit on my hand. We shake on it. Are they
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gonna super? Are they gonna make it? And then send
a picture with CROC. I don't. I don't want to
do that. That's not gonna happen. If I can, if
I can get the Jets quarterback in that case, to
send one which has been done before, well I get it,
has been done before, I get it, I would take
that bet with odds versus the other. Hey, by the way,
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here's the other thing. What number is far good? Or
is Roger's gonna wear? In New York? You know Aaron Rodgers? Joe?
You think celebrity? Do you think Joe Nama is going
to give up number twelve? Come on, it's not happening.
That would interesting get out of retirement. Yeah, you'd probably
let him. That'd be interesting. I mean, let's be honest,
Joe's a Hall of Famer, but Rogers, Yeah, better cornerback
(28:51):
that's brought way Joe, like you put twelve on in
that New York market and you don't show up, you
don't win a championship. I mean, and I'm just saying
it is it is noteworthy that you know two of
the most famous Jets quarterbacks ever, one War Pantio's the
other War Crocs. While saying in a crank pick, it
is interesting how that's played out for that franchise. I'm
(29:13):
just saying, rank, I'm just saying that. I meant you think.
I do remember. I remember the name of the person
that that was given to Silver Fox, and she she was.
She came into the Giants locker room quite a bit too.
I was. I do believe I was in New York
(29:34):
when that happened. I do believe because I was supposed
to go to Green Bay. Brett Farve was recruiting me
to Green Bay. I almost went to Green Bay. I'm
in New York visiting and I almost go to Green
Bay boo because of Brett Farve. And then Brett Farve
ends up in New York that next year, I believe,
(29:55):
didn't he go to New York. In six h they
lost to the Giants. That was the Lawrence time, a
Plexico Burris game in Green Bay. That was I believe
that was seven. No, that was oh six eight. That
was what he went to the Jets seven eight, and
(30:16):
then he went to the Jets in two thousand and eight.
All right, so I was retired when I saw that.
But what Nonetheless, the lady that that the reporter she
used to come into the Giants locker room and who Yeah,
I'll tell you her name after or y'all can look
it up. But let me tell you something. Jan Sturgier
(30:37):
I told nobody would remember another one. There's he's thinking
of a different one. Yeah, by the way, there were
multi Oh were they really? Oh? The one I know
the one I recall smoke show Wait and that's not
on a chauvinistic level of any kind. Literally smoker like
(31:00):
huh like he took it. He was willing to risk
it all. Ever you ever seen you ever see the
movie Harlem Nights where the guy Lee has they sent sunshine.
They put sunshine on the dude that was the bad guy.
I was, you know, carrying the money around and she
bet about the bar. He called. He called home because
she wanted to leave what he call it ho He said, yeah, yeah,
(31:23):
tell your mama, I ain't never coming home, Like I
love you, tell her I love him, but I ain't
never coming back, right, I didn't. That was that was
And she used to come in during media media time,
and everybody's like she interviewed, who's she interviewing? Let me
go fix my hair? Let me go fix my hair?
(31:47):
Was the intern style she had, black dude saying, let
let me go fix my hair. I mean, Berto, this
is why racist. You know, you know, as brothers, we
are not going into like fix my hair like you
was going into. It's the bathroom to look at you.
You make sure your appearance was somewhat presentable. Nah, that's
(32:11):
too that's too simple. That's a good point. That's too simple.
But you don't. You don't stand out, you know, make
them thin you work at the fire department. Stupid. A
lot of guys did that though, a lot of guys
just stood there with their hand on their hip Like.
I never understood guys who were putting some work to
(32:32):
h to look a little more. I never understood. Yeah,
I just I just never understood why you're gonna stand
there with your tie off. Everything is off except the
tape on your wrist and on your ankles and your
fingers didn't make sense. You still got your gloves on.
Sending that that's like sending that message that like you're
(32:55):
you're prepared, you still got take like you can do
a lot of things, a compromising position. He's still got
your cleats on, You got your eye black all, but
you ain't got no clothes all players. You still got
your towel that you wear on the side of your
pants with nothing on. Like, how how does that work?
How does that work? You got your streamer wrong. People
think this stuff doesn't happen. It happens. Guys will make
(33:16):
sure that they you know, you got your full uniform
showing out, but they literally but naked. Yeah, well there
you go. You know nothing more. There's no laws against
you know, bringing a baby elephant into the room, you
know what I mean, because I don't see that on
the walls anywhere. Before you take us to break a Q,
I showed him the picture. I showed him the reporter,
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Whoops somebody there. So things have changed, man, trash talks
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(02:57):
can't do it, quick, can't do it. And race guess
what though, what buckle up? The Baltimore Ravens did it. Yeah,
they did that exclusive or non exclusive tag where the
Baltimore Ravens decided, you know what, Lamar Jackson, go see
what else is out there. And if we decide we
(03:17):
don't want to match whatever offer you get, we're just
gonna get that team's next two first round picks and
we're gonna and if you don't get any sort of
deal and you sign this tag, it's gonna be thirty
two point four million dollars. Now, he could hold out,
I guess if he wanted to. Who knows what that
would turn into. But point is, the Baltimore Ravens and
Lamar Jackson have been negotiating on a contract for long
(03:39):
enough and now you got a bunch of people running
around calling out collusion that all these teams saying they're
not interested in Lamar Jackson. This is clearly Steve Bashotti
getting in the years of other owners, etc. Etc. Bottom
line is they try to get a deal ont done.
Now they're gonna take this approach and they're gonna let
(03:59):
Lamar are trying to see what else is out there.
And I think it's going to be fascinating to watch.
It will be. And look, some of the calls for
collusion do seem it does seem like there's something there
all right. You've got the Atlanta Falcons who have cap space.
Clearly Lamar Jackson there would be an upgraded quarterback, and
(04:20):
they come out right away and say they're not interested.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You either have
a bad front office that doesn't want to at least
inquire to see what the offer would be worth or
what he's looking for, or your owner's telling you something
because he's talking to Steve Mashotti and other owners within
the league. Carolina David Tepper, he's got deep pockets. Lamar
Jackson been upgrade on that roster they come out and
(04:42):
say they're not interested. Now the Miami Dolphins, it's a
little different scenario. They still have two ways under a
first round contract. I think most people would say Lamar
Jackson would be an upgrade to Tua. Lamar Jackson's from
South Florida, so there will kind of be a homecoming
of or It's The difficulty with Miami trying to be
(05:03):
a part of the mix now is they don't have
a first round pick for twenty twenty three. You have
to have consecutive first round pick, so right now, if
you're going to make a deal, you have to have
a twenty twenty three first round pick in at twenty
twenty four. Now, nothing excludes Miami from after the draft
making an offer where they would have a twenty twenty
(05:24):
four and twenty twenty five, but as it currently stands,
they wouldn't be able to make an offer sheet at
this current juncture. But to come out and say you're
not even going to contemplate it if even when the
time's right, it's just a bit surprising, And it does
bring about the thought of collusion, because look, no one
wanted the Browns and Jimmy Haslem to give Deshaun Watson
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a five year fully guaranteed deal. It calls into question
a lot of issues that there are within the CBA
for the Escoro rule and then having to have that
amount of money's tied up in a scrow account, So
it really forces these owners to be a lot more
liquid than they probably would like to be. And it's
an outdated rule, but still it's it's currently still in place,
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So no one wants to be able to be shoving
out fully guaranteed contracts like what Deshaun Watson. God, but
I don't think you need to collude necessarily to have
every other owners set out, you know, go out there
and say, yeah, we're not interested, or we made an offer,
but it wasn't an offer that you know, Lamar was
willing to accept. Like like, I don't think if there
(06:29):
is collusion going on, it's ignorant on the on the
part of the owners because I don't think they need
to do that. I think they could have a coordinator
response of hey, this is what we were off of you. Sorry,
it's not fully guaranteed deal, but you miss them games
the past two seasons. We've got some concerns about your
well being. You know, outside of just being a dynamic runner,
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and even though you'd be an upgraded quarterback for us,
we're not sure really, you know, how we build our
roster around you to make you most successful. But the
bottom line is this is it's gonna be a fascinating
scenario to see who's in the mix. And here are
some dates to kind of keep in mind. So basically,
any team has the ability to put in an offer
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sheet until July seventeenth, so that means they can put
forth any offer and if Lamar agrees to it, all right,
he's gonna take it back to the Baltimore Ravens, and
the Ravens have to the side if they want to
match or receive the two first round picks we talked about.
Now at that point in July seventeenth, if there's no
long term deal that's agreed upon, Lamar would then go
(07:36):
into the season playing under the one year guaranteed franchise tag. Now,
he doesn't have to show up for week one. In fact,
I don't believe he has to show up till week
ten in order to make it in a crude season.
We have had people do that before. Vincent Jackson was
one that comes to mind, so he could technically sit
out until week ten come in play and then finish
(07:56):
out this tag, and you'd assume that Baltimore is not
gonna tag him again giving out things have worked out.
So that's where we're at, and again it's gonna be
fascinating to see who makes an offer, what deals are
out there, or if a lot of other teams are
giving him the same feedback that the Baltimore Ravens gave
him in regards to looking for a long term deal.
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I think if you look back on it, Versati was
the most vocal about Haslam and the Browns and just
what that meant to him and how much he thought
that that was a miss. You know, it would just
something that should have never happened. And now that we're
looking at it, maybe he's right. But in terms of
(08:39):
it possibly being collusion, of course, it could possibly be collusion.
I mean that if if they're forced to have to
pay a quarterback the type of money somewhere in and
around where where Deshaun Watson is, then so is Jacksonville,
So is Buffalo, so is the Chargers, So you know,
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so are they There's I mean, there's going to be
teams that have to continue to push that number up.
So there is a vested interests not for the benefit
and the sake of Brashadi and the Ravens, there's a
vested interest in the franchise themselves not having to pay
(09:21):
out that amount of money to a quarterback that they're
going to have to re up. You know, Joe Burrow like,
these guys are going to rewrite what the quarterback gets paid.
But I think we're looking at it still where I
don't know. They just don't want that number and that
(09:44):
price tag to get too far away from where they
wanted to get to, so as it applies to colluding
or even just the idea of coming out and saying,
these are the reasons why we wouldn't take you, or
wouldn't want to take I mean, Lamar Jackson's better than
ninety percent of the quarterbacks that are starting in the
(10:05):
league right now. I'd say he's better than one hundred
percent of the quarterbacks coming into the league right now,
because we don't know what those quarterbacks are going to do.
That's all based upon potential, and quarterbacks have been injured
while in the NFL. I don't think that there's any
reasoning that is sound enough outside of it just being
(10:27):
you know, there may be a couple that just truly
feel like they don't want to take a risk on
what the injury scenario would be. That's fine, But for
they're not to be one team that says that this
is worth two draft picks, first round draft picks to
bring this guy in and hammer out a deal, something
(10:48):
is incorrect. Like I don't think you have to be
a rocket scientist to put two and two together in
this equation and know that something is incorrect. If a
team doesn't want to improve by bringing in a talent,
a rare talent by the way, like Lamar Jackson. I mean,
could one of these teams, like the Falcons or the
(11:11):
Panthers or some of these other teams that have been
rumored that aren't interested in Lamar Jackson? Could it be
as simple as they were asked a question and they
don't want to tip their hand, and so they're just
going to say, well, we're not interested because maybe they're
trying to look at other options like a draft pick
or something else like that, or don't I don't know that.
I think that the NFL PA and I think that
(11:33):
how quickly players reacted to it leads me to believe
that they expected that this was going to happen, that
there was that they were They already had the collusion
card ready to be pulled, and the second the Ravens
were going in this direction because we talked about it
on Monday that this was the expectation from some people
around the league. It was Jeremy Fowler VSPN and reported it.
(11:54):
And it almost feels like both sides are still playing
the game like who wants to get there their message out?
Who wants to get their narrative out? And now it's
turned into collusion when initially it was Hey, Baltimore is
going to do this and they're going to try and
show him. These are what the offers are going to
look like. And now the idea to Brady's point that
Atlanta just wouldn't be interested in Lamar Jackson, I don't
(12:17):
buy that for a second. I think Atlanta's absolutely would
be interested in Lamar Jackson if there was an opportunity
to land him. Again, what team wouldn't be interested. Every
team that's capable of being able to And by the way,
let me just go over one other thing too, So
you don't necessarily have to have two first round picks
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in order to provide an offer sheet. You do in
that sense if you want to facilitate a trade. But
what you could do is you could talk with Lamar,
because he's obviously the one representing himself and the NFLPA
and whoever else is involved, and you could say, look,
we'll do a sign and trade. You signed the tag,
we'll trade. This will be the deal. And it could
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technically work out that way for a team that doesn't
have a first round pick in twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four, so it doesn't have to be where
they have those two first round picks. But I just
I kind of go back to the idea that if
it was collusion amongst the owners, you know, they're playing
checkers and not chess. Because to Jonas's question or point
(13:23):
of this, if this was a coordinated response by the NFLPA,
which is definitely something they would do, because the NFLPA
many times where they have issues with the CBA, they
just go and they bark and they just say things
to the media and it has no teeth to it,
instead of actually when they're at a negotiation table trying
(13:44):
to hammer out some of these details, being one to
sacrifice to make change. They just complain about it and
then nothing happens and they can never prove it. That's
how it works out. Like I'm just telling you from
from years of being a player and in being in
these conversations to now like looking back on it and
still understanding the process. That's that's what it always is.
They just complain. They're like that little chihuaha that barks
(14:06):
a lot but has no bite whatsoever. And so if
you're the owners, like you honestly wouldn't even have to
confront this head on if you just said, look, if
you're an owner and interested, reach out talk to him.
But I'm sure you're not gonna want to do a
fully guaranteed deal that surpasses to Shaun Watson for his
talents either, because we don't feel like anyone deserve that
deal yet in this league. Now I might get there
(14:28):
one day, but I mean, and maybe Mahomes is the
guy that deserves a boast, but we didn't feel like
anyone at that time deserve that deal. So it could
be a harsh reality that Lamar Jackson faces. As I
said before, like there's a chance Steve Bashatti, you know,
might have offered him something better than what anyone else
is willing to offer him, and he comes back and
(14:50):
plays for the Ravens, either on the one year tag
or on a long term deal that might be a
discount to what Bishatti's already offered him. I just think
that that's if that's the approach, then that relationship is
dead in the water. And if it's dead in the water,
you're not going to get the best version of your player. Well,
(15:13):
there's one way to ensure that it's dead in the water.
Have Little Danny pop in. And that's the team that
I think makes the most sense. Think about this. If
you're Dan Snyder and let's say all these other owners
are trying to get you to sell the team, what
is a better parting gift again? Signing Lamar Jackson to
(15:35):
a fully guaranteed deal that surpasses to Sean Watson and
saying bye bye and then selling the team. You talk
about the ultimate middle finger to every other owner out there?
Is that not it by by Little Danny? Want me
to say, I'll talk about this before you stirred this
up last week, and now we we could be staring
(15:57):
at the Ultimate Revenge by Dance Tier saying okay, let
me just go and talked about it last week, but
that's actually possible because of Baltimore using the non exclusive franchise.
Little Danny says, Okay, here's a lit stick of dynamite
in your lap before I go, everybody have fun, see
you later. Come on, let's go. And you know Baschatti
and him don't like each other, so let's go each other.
(16:17):
They would do I mean, he should do it. Listen.
Here's here's the thing. Baltimore has now made it clear
to Lamar that they they don't want him is as
much as he thought they did. Whatever the number is
that he felt was fair, and whatever the number is
(16:40):
that Baltimore thought was fair is so far away that
they put a non like to me, the biggest the
biggest thing here is it being non exclusive, right Like,
that's that's the one word, or the two words put together,
or it's not two words, but that's the word non
exclusive that really has to jump out at you in
(17:01):
this scenario. You think I'm so bad once you go
out to happy hour and see what it's like out there. Huh.
I mean, that's you you basically have now told him
how you truly feel about him. To your point, this
is the worst case scenario for Lamar's and not yea.
He might end up losing what thirty forty fifty million
(17:21):
dollars on whatever deal he gets if he signs it.
And then you go back and you look at the
reports that Baltimore had one hundred eighty million dollars on
the table guaranteed. Look, I said it from the beginning.
He needs to get ro Quan Smith's agent. If he
gets Roquan Smith's agent, he can get a deal done.
And Roquan Smith did all hammered out and I don't
even think he finished the season. That's I think low
(17:43):
key one of the things that's on the table here
right Like, he doesn't have representation, and the irony is
he's using the nfl PA now to like consult and
help him with this. And yet they're the ones that
have ostracized agents to the point where they've lowered the
standard representation agreement fee and they've made the rookie draft
salary pool that of which most players don't even really
(18:06):
have an agent do contract work because it's only two
things they're negotiating on the rookie deal, so it's really
the second contract, a lot of agents trying to get
to with the player, and even during negotiations with a CBA,
they never rely on agents who are always communicating with
teams and with players because of the position that they're in.
You look at every other professional sports league, the agents
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all play a role in every labor dispute. It's crazy
to me how ignorant the NFLPA is in regards to
the involvement of agents and how much more they should
be involved when it comes to a lot of these situations.
And so now you've got a player who chose not
to have an agent. He's been happy with the offers
that he's are being made, and had he had an agent,
(18:50):
you know, maybe he would get an offer that's close
to what he wants, but not quite exactly what he wants.
Here's the reality. That's always what happens in negotiations. I mean, again,
looking at the Jimmy HASSLM situation and him making the
offer for Deshaun Watson, it literally makes no sense. It
makes no sense. I mean, that deal for that player,
(19:11):
given what he had done and given what he had
going on around him. It makes no sense. I mean,
they were just in a desperate, desperate time, and it
feels like it was more emotionally motivated by the relationship
with Baker Mayfield than anything else, Like whatever happened between
Jimmy Hassel and Baker Mayfield to push Jimmy Haslm to
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react so emotionally and do a deal like that that
really disrupted the entire league. It It doesn't make any
other sense otherwise, because no one from a business standpoint
would want to sign a quarterback to that, especially the
way Watson looked his past year when he played. And
so now you find yourself in a position where you've
got a player who doesn't have an agent and he
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can't figure out how to really figure like know what
his market value is. Well, he's gonna get to find
out now. And that's the tough part, I think too,
for being a player when you don't have representation is
usually you want or need a buffer between you and
the person during the negotiation so you don't have to
make it emotional. And that's the tough part is that's
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the position now that Lamar is still in until he
hires someone to help out with this entire process. It
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that Aaron Rodgers has spoken to the New York Jets,
and apparently not only is Aaron Rodgers spoken to the
New York Jets, but reports say that the Jets sending
contingue of team officials, which included owner Woody Johnson, head
(22:04):
coach Robert Sala, GM Joe Douglas, and offensive coordinator Nathaniel
Hackett to meet with Rodgers in California on Tuesday, and
last I check, that was tampering unless you got permission
from your current team to go ahead and speak to them,
which feels like, maybe this is the beginning of the
(22:24):
departure of Aaron Rodgers from Green Bay and maybe he's
on his way to New York to follow in the
footsteps of the great Brett Farve. And away we go
with more juicy NFL talk into it. I mean, do
you know the odds of a team having one Hall
of Fame quarterback follow up another Hall of Fame quarterback,
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and then as their careers winding down with that specific team,
they both go to the same team to continue playing.
I mean, honestly, like, I don't think we'll ever see
anything like this ever again. It's so it's so identical
that it's weird. It almost feels planned, like maybe that's
what happened. He crawled underground, he hung out with earthworms,
(23:08):
part of the script and golfers, and they said, hey,
smoke this and you're gonna end up in New York.
Or maybe Brett Farr went there a little earlier, like
a few hours earlier and built him a volleyball court. Sorry,
or maybe he was just in the Brett far voice
room and he was like the voice of God and
(23:31):
Aaron Rodgers's head in the hobbit hole with with Wrangler
ads playing over the speakers. You have Wrangler, yeahs copperfit. Yeah, yeah,
it's so straight. You need to go to New York.
Yeah for like twenty four or forty eight hours. Just
put the phone down, you know. But I'm just saying
(23:54):
words of advice, all right? Can cannot circle back around
to Lamar Axon with the Aaron Rodgers topic. Why wouldn't
New York not only be entertaining Aaron Rodgers, but entertaining
Lamar Jackson now that he has a franchise tag on
him that's non exclusive. Yeah, you think that that that
(24:16):
would be the move if it can't work out with Rogers,
right right. But I get the sense more that Robert
Solids feeling a little more heat and pressure, and given
Nathaniel Hackett being there as the OC, it's just a
better fit. And I think if you had to look,
if you had to pick short term between the two,
you'd pick Rogers. I mean, come on, short term, I mean,
I'm not gonna say I would pick Rogers short term though,
(24:38):
just for the simple fact that I'm not quite sure
if he really wants to play. I think back, you
have to assume that he wants to play, like he's
not just coming back to come back. That's a lot
of money to walk away from, my guy. Like some
guys come back, come back like to get that money.
They don't. They don't come back in and are the
(24:58):
best version of them els they come. Yeah, but he
cares about his legacy. I think he cares about what
happens after this. I actually you would say there's probably
more pressure on who he's going to be and who
he's trying to be if he makes this move. I mean,
everything's heightened. He's in a tougher division, He's in a
New York media market that's going to scrutinize everything he's said, done,
(25:22):
will do, and it's all gonna be about, well, what
is he after the Green Bay Packers. I just feel
like if there's more pressure, I don't disagree that there
would be external more pressure involved because that is an
unforgiving market. I just think he could tell you all
(25:42):
his stats. We've we've heard it, he could tell you
all of his accomplishments. I think his legacy is fine.
I mean, whatever it's going to be. He's not going
to New York I mean at all. But you're telling
me if he goes there and he makes a few
passes at you know, some areas individuals where some photos
(26:02):
are leaked out of him in crocs and if they
don't win, I mean, you're telling me that doesn't play
a part of his Like I said, no one's gonna
remember that in the future. I don't think so. I really,
I don't think so. When it's all well, I mean,
how many people would remember Brett Farve and his time
in New York we I mean, other than the crocs
(26:23):
and the photos. I think a lot of people. Actually,
I don't know. I don't know. I mean all Jets
fans deal, I'll put it that way. I don't they
remember how that went. I think they were eight and eight.
I think they were eight and eight that year. I mean,
they weren't bad. They weren't a bad team. When when
Crocks on the team, the Silver Fox, I mean, listen,
(26:45):
I all I know is Aaron Rodgers is a back
to back MVP winner of the league, his his his
legacy is solidified. He's not let me ask you guys
this outside of him making the rest of his money.
Do you think he's honestly going to New York to
win super Bowls? He's going to win the Super Bowl
(27:06):
in the NFC, in the ac K their rosters. I mean,
I would say what I asked you are they're y'all
saying that him going. I would bet on them to win.
They're seast Okay, really would you bet on with them
making it to the AFC Championship Round or to the
Super Bowl? Yes, I take that roster. I take that
(27:26):
that roster they have to They have arguably the best
cornerback in the league. Now, I'll take that bet one
hundred times out of a hundred times. We could bet
that right now. I'd be surprised that they even made
the playoffs. You have to give odds if that's the case.
You know how that works, right, No, I'm not giving
odds straight up, Then you don't understand how better plus
understanding betting. I'm telling you here is the best I think,
(27:47):
because if you understood betting, you would then say that
I'm in an extreme disadvantage for selecting one of sixteen
teams to make it there or you have to at
least give me eight to one odds. Come on, no odds,
we're going head up. Let's spit on your hand. I
spit on my hand. We shake on it. Are they
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gonna super? Are they gonna make it? And then send
a picture with CROC. I don't. I don't want to
do that. That's not gonna happen. If I can, if
I can get the Jets quarterback in that case, to
send one which has been done before, well I get it,
has been done before, I get it, I would take
that bet with odds versus the other. Hey, by the way,
(28:30):
here's the other thing. What number is far good? Or
is Roger's gonna wear? In New York? You know Aaron Rodgers? Joe?
You think celebrity? Do you think Joe Nama is going
to give up number twelve? Come on, it's not happening.
That would interesting get out of retirement. Yeah, you'd probably
let him. That'd be interesting. I mean, let's be honest,
Joe's a Hall of Famer, but Rogers, Yeah, better cornerback
(28:51):
that's brought way Joe, like you put twelve on in
that New York market and you don't show up, you
don't win a championship. I mean, and I'm just saying
it is it is noteworthy that you know two of
the most famous Jets quarterbacks ever, one War Pantio's the
other War Crocs. While saying in a crank pick, it
is interesting how that's played out for that franchise. I'm
(29:13):
just saying, rank, I'm just saying that. I meant you think.
I do remember. I remember the name of the person
that that was given to Silver Fox, and she she was.
She came into the Giants locker room quite a bit too.
I was. I do believe I was in New York
(29:34):
when that happened. I do believe because I was supposed
to go to Green Bay. Brett Farve was recruiting me
to Green Bay. I almost went to Green Bay. I'm
in New York visiting and I almost go to Green
Bay boo because of Brett Farve. And then Brett Farve
ends up in New York that next year, I believe,
(29:55):
didn't he go to New York. In six h they
lost to the Giants. That was the Lawrence time, a
Plexico Burris game in Green Bay. That was I believe
that was seven. No, that was oh six eight. That
was what he went to the Jets seven eight, and
(30:16):
then he went to the Jets in two thousand and eight.
All right, so I was retired when I saw that.
But what Nonetheless, the lady that that the reporter she
used to come into the Giants locker room and who Yeah,
I'll tell you her name after or y'all can look
it up. But let me tell you something. Jan Sturgier
(30:37):
I told nobody would remember another one. There's he's thinking
of a different one. Yeah, by the way, there were
multi Oh were they really? Oh? The one I know
the one I recall smoke show Wait and that's not
on a chauvinistic level of any kind. Literally smoker like
(31:00):
huh like he took it. He was willing to risk
it all. Ever you ever seen you ever see the
movie Harlem Nights where the guy Lee has they sent sunshine.
They put sunshine on the dude that was the bad guy.
I was, you know, carrying the money around and she
bet about the bar. He called. He called home because
she wanted to leave what he call it ho He said, yeah, yeah,
(31:23):
tell your mama, I ain't never coming home, Like I
love you, tell her I love him, but I ain't
never coming back, right, I didn't. That was that was
And she used to come in during media media time,
and everybody's like she interviewed, who's she interviewing? Let me
go fix my hair? Let me go fix my hair?
(31:47):
Was the intern style she had, black dude saying, let
let me go fix my hair. I mean, Berto, this
is why racist. You know, you know, as brothers, we
are not going into like fix my hair like you
was going into. It's the bathroom to look at you.
You make sure your appearance was somewhat presentable. Nah, that's
(32:11):
too that's too simple. That's a good point. That's too simple.
But you don't. You don't stand out, you know, make
them thin you work at the fire department. Stupid. A
lot of guys did that though, a lot of guys
just stood there with their hand on their hip Like.
I never understood guys who were putting some work to
(32:32):
h to look a little more. I never understood. Yeah,
I just I just never understood why you're gonna stand
there with your tie off. Everything is off except the
tape on your wrist and on your ankles and your
fingers didn't make sense. You still got your gloves on.
Sending that that's like sending that message that like you're
(32:55):
you're prepared, you still got take like you can do
a lot of things, a compromising position. He's still got
your cleats on, You got your eye black all, but
you ain't got no clothes all players. You still got
your towel that you wear on the side of your
pants with nothing on. Like, how how does that work?
How does that work? You got your streamer wrong. People
think this stuff doesn't happen. It happens. Guys will make
(33:16):
sure that they you know, you got your full uniform
showing out, but they literally but naked. Yeah, well there
you go. You know nothing more. There's no laws against
you know, bringing a baby elephant into the room, you
know what I mean, because I don't see that on
the walls anywhere. Before you take us to break a Q,
I showed him the picture. I showed him the reporter,
(33:40):
So oh you did? Well you think? Well do you
think loved the last name? There you go, so coming up,
I knew who you were talking about. Yeah, I know
you did. Yeah, I remember that. I don't ever really
remember far, but you ever remember that? Go all right,
go ahead. I'm sorry, all right, So coming up next,
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I'm like, we wanted to get to the seats, okay
in sixty Toiletslee. Is that what he said that is correct?
More than three times the NBA average God good first
seed bomber. That's a lot of poop that is. I mean,
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you're making probably want to take more away games. You know,
you're going to create more jobs. You need more people
to clean up that. I mean, it doesn't look like
they clean up the bathrooms, but maybe they'll think like
they'll think like the sheets chain and keep keep the
bathrooms clean. You know, that's my biggest criteria going to
a rest, going to a a gas station is how
(36:48):
clean are their bathrooms. It's not a clean bathroom. I
think whether or not they've got gas or how expensive
top of the list. If I'm trapped, like when I
was traveling in Pennsylvania even now, I'll look for a
place that has clean bathrooms. Like if I find out
like reviews and stuff like that, that's just like a
(37:08):
really weird thing. Yeah, yeah, it's weird to gas station bathroom.
I just think it what you get. You know, the
saying cleanliness is next to godliness, Like if a if
a gas station, bro go to a sheets gas station,
you could lick the floor. Oh let's keep going. When
you go to a gas station. They hand you a key,
(37:30):
it's got a squeegee attached to it, and you walk
in and use it out of his way to go
to like the dirtiest gas station. That's where you get robbed.
I'm not a bathroom snob. I don't care. That's where
you get robbed, like. They's not about it being a
bathroom snob. Robbed of an enjoyable bathroom experience. Yeah, that too.
(37:50):
They've got a hub cap attached to a key chain
and use the bathroom to get it done. And I'm
not going. Then you open the stall and then a
dude named Zad is up in there, and most of
them don't have stalls. They're just a one toilet. That
did get what I'm at. I trying to be that guy, guys.
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