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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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We're also going to talk about the NFL and Week
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
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Speaker 1 (00:48):
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How the hell we feel here on a Monday morning, Good, good,
post Turkey Day, post Turkey Day, Yeah, Turkey mortal, excited,
fired up, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I feel rested. How about yourself? Yeah, feeling I mean it.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Was probably the first time I've gotten more than six
hours sleep in consecutive days.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Real, see, I can't do it. Yeah, my bladder, it's
so funny. My body is okay, Like my mind is
okay with staying sleep on our day. He's off. My
bladder is still on the same Uh, it's still on
the same schedule.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
That means I gotta get up, I gotta go, I
gotta go handle that. And I generally just stay awake.
I just start working on business and you handle that,
don't you. I do absolutely got Yeah. I saw you
guys dancing on the sideline on Saturday. I was really
excited for you guys dancing. Yeah, you guys, you don't
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remember dancing on the sideline in ann Arbor was dancing.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
We were trying to mess with Rob for one of
his hits at one point, which he kind of turned
the tables on us.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh, maybe it was more so. I mean I saw
you guys. I could have sworn you guys were jamming
on the sideline, and then.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It might have been we might have been jamming. There
was one song we'd hear it everywhere we went, and
we actually learned the name of it when we're in
Penn State. Well, well, the nice young man young men
one of the fans there, told us, he's like, this
is the name of that song. Oh, oh gosh, man,
we were asking for the entire year. Huh.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, of course it would have been someone that Penn
State that would have and courteous and kind enough to
offer that that uh, information to Happy Valley.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
They called it way correct. The group that actually sits
up where a set was, it's the same group of
guys that was there last year. They're they're a funny group, man.
There they were there. They're kind of I think they're
from uh, I think they're from Jersey. Nice, but they
would like try to like heckle a little bit. But
then they're like cool just to kind of talking ball
and all that. Most of the time gambling too, which
is kind of funny. I was like, you should you
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just talk to Jonas. He doesn't win many but if
you fade him, you'll win a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I didn't this weekend, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That you do know that Jonas did the cow Herd
Show when we were all off and and you know,
it's just been it's been a whirlwind of of just
all kinds of praise and and just you know, happiness
around Jonas doing that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Oh yeah, did you have any dynamic guests Jonas? Is
that why, like what made the show so special?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think we went live to ann Arber at one point,
got a got a Scott Staper foremance uh wow by
by somebody there. So somebody who's you know, just a
Heisman finalist TV star. Dang, you had Brady On? I
was talking about rob Stone.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, Brady On, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
See? That's fed up man. So I had to wait
for Saturday. Huh Yeah. And I had the request to
be all bad way you have.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
To tell you well?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I actually he said something to me and then I
reach I was like, yeah, anything I could do to
help you, let me know.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So very interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He thought it was somebody else. I think the truth
comes out. He'd gotten confused. Otherwise he wouldn't have come on.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But the odd thing was like you didn't want to sing,
and like you actually sang like you ran a band.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I was laying out for you, like you know, I
were laying out for him. My singing days are over.
So I learned my lesson being a part of a
bad band. But you know it's fine. Listen. It was
all good. It was a fun time, fun weekend for all,
fun weekend in the NFL and college for foot ball,
and a fun weekend if you're a Philadelphia Eagle fan,
because man, oh man, they somehow figure out ways to
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win games.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You remember how I told you though that Philly fans
PA fans are like real a holes, like real a holes.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
How many times do you think they were like if
you we suck? Oh wait wait wait oh we're great,
We're good, We're good. Okay, now you we sucked. You
remember we were making that's a Philly fan.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We were making the case after the Monday Night came
against the Chiefs and we were saying, man, Philly just
somehow figures out, Like I don't know that I trust
another team in a close game than Philly in the
league right now.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's kind of like the mentality of the streets of Philadelphia. Man,
like close close, close close, Uh you scratch your scrounge
like like almost like you know, what comes to mind.
The the physical embodiment of it is Joe Frasier.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's like you're just you're tough, your hard nose, you're bully,
You're you're going to take the punches, but you're going
to deliver the blows. That's Philly. That's like literally what
their football team is this year. And I actually find
them very fun to watch. I enjoy watching Philly play.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, I mean the first off, they're extremely talented, and
they're extremely talented. It's it's fun to watch them, in
my opinion, because you've got some of the best players
in the league.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
On one team, sure, and.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
They've drafted well, they've developed well, so that you kind
of I mean, at least for any of us that's
followed college football. You get to see a guy like
Jordan Davis playing the next level and you're like, yep,
still has a pretty biggest pack. He's so big.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
He damned there killed himself when he fell on his belly. Yeah,
that fell on his belly.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
You don't have to win out of himself. He rolled over.
How's it?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Trisan was sitting there like, is he okay? I said,
man that let me just get put this in perspective,
and I told them how big he was and how
much he wait, and they're like, oh, so where you said?
As he knocked the wind out of himself, that was it.
He was moving fast.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I mean, they say the bigger they are, the harder
they fall. There's not a lie.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
They say. Grizzly bears run faster the horses downhill downhill.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think the thing I kind of came away with
was one Jalen Hurts plays with like a sense of
poison confidence. That's just the fun to watch, easier root for.
There's just something about him, man, and like the entire
team embodies him as a leader because there's a stark
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contrast between Hurts and obviously Nick Sirianni like firing going,
like very outgoing. Yeah it's it's I mean, it'll be
telling people off. I think I saw him in the tunnel.
He was yelled at people in Kansas City. So it's
just two completely different personalities. And Hurts has such a cool,
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calm and collected demeanor, and I think everyone kind of
embodies that because they feel that and they see like,
all right, if they get the ball, we're gonna win.
He's gonna drive down and he's gonna find a way
of making a play to make it happen. I mean,
I look back on that game and I just say,
it's literally it was the difference between Buffalo's last series
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in regulation and they're bringing all out blitz. Gabe Davis
is running the corner and look, you know, if you're
Josh Allen, you like him to drift back and throw
it up to a spot because he's gonna get hit
and he's not going to be able to stand in
there and get the ball off where the corner is
going to be. He threw it more like he was
going vertical up the field. So in one way, you'd
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like to say, all right, you're the quarterback. If you
throw him more towards the corner, he's gonna fade to
and hopefully see it make a catch on it. Right.
The other thing is Gabe Davis has to know it's
Blitz zero and has to look sooner like sometimes and
I said this before. Wide receiver's gravest mistake when running routes.
It's not having any clue what's going on around the
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line of scrimmage, not looking in saying wait, I'm one
on one. There's no safety out here. I need to
look quick because it's Bood zero. There's an extra guy.
They're not going to be able to block them. I
need to look quicker in my route. And he obviously didn't,
like he had no clue what the ball was. So
that ultimately ends up in the field goal and the
way Philly drove down at the end of the game.
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And I know it's a long field goal for Jake Elliott,
but I was like, what's the guy in the overtime.
I'm like, well, it doesn't matter, like Philly's going to
win this game.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That was a long field goal.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I couldn't believe he made it in those conditions, and
it was he made it the ball too right. It
was moving. Yeah, that ball was moving like it almost
looked like it could have curved. It could have hit
a hard bank any different direction because of the way
to win was grabbing it. But man, talk about clutch.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Did they just win close games?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Well, it's not even that. It's like the Bills can't
win one in overtime. Now in that he ever won
an overtime game, and so it was like that little
detail of that. But zero play led ultimately in overtime,
ultimately to like game game over. Like you knew Jalen Hurts.
Once they got the ball they were gonna make enough
place to go win that game.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Say I need it to score. I was just wondering.
I was like, okay, are they going to get it in?
Are you going to get it in? Then they kicked
the field guy. I was like, man, this this a wrap.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well it was when they did the coin flip for overtime.
The Bills won the toss and elected to receive Randon
grams like don't matter, like you knew their.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Romo and Nance didn't say anything about it, Like excuse me,
now you know Jason Garrett and Tarika, But no, no, that
was Romo Nance, I was Romanance. Sorry. Those games sort
of bloaying into each other with the with the how
late that one started? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, I thought they would have said something about it,
like I don't think they made mention of it. Maybe
they didn't hear it.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, no matter.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Josh Allen after the game, and Josh Allen did have
a great game. He had the interception, but he did
play really really well well scrambled, made a lot of
plays with his feet and you know, kept the Bills
in it and had them in a good position to
try and win the game. He spoke afterwards about just
the situation that Buffalo is in with their season on
the line.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
I'm extremely confident in our guys and the men that
we have in this locker room, you know, and we
understand where we're at, so we gotta get things going again.
I think effort was there, execution was there. I just
got to make a couple more plays, and you know,
there's a couple of we wish.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
We had back.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So does feel like Buffalo's in a little bit of
a tough spot here with the season. That was a
big one yesterday they could have won, they did not.
They've lost three of their last four, they fired a coordinator.
They're going to be at Kansas City coming up next week.
If they had Dallas the Chargers after that. So it's
going to be a tricky schedule for the Buffalo Bills
the rest of the way. If they get in they're dangerous.
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But if they don't, again, I just wonder what sort
of they have.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
To win four? I mean, what do you think they
have to win four games in order to be able
to to get at ten.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It's a bipolar team.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Man. Ten feels like the threshold. And if you want
to be in the conversation and just never know, the
only thing that you know you're going to get is
what you don't know what you're going to get from
the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I hate to say it, but you get you get
a good team at times, you get a team that
could actually be great at times. That good team can
win or lose games. That great team, that team that
shows greatness they win games. They can win big games.
I just think that they are, like there's such an anomaly.
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I don't. I don't. I can't figure them out. Like
you watch them, you know you got you got pieces.
Now they deal with injuries. I get that, but they
still show that they have the ability to be able
to compete at a high levels. It's not like you
were watching this game against Philly and it's like, oh,
they're getting out class. Clearly they were. They were very
evenly matched. It looked like an evenly matched game. But
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they didn't come out on top. And at some point
point and you know, I had to be the guy
that said, I feel like this team hit its ceiling
last year. But I just feel like I see certain
things that take place, like a game against Philly that
they could have pulled out. I mean in a couple
of different instances. And I'll just go no further than
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just the overtime. If they punched the ball in, you
don't even give the ball back to Jalen Hurts. He
doesn't even get it. He doesn't even get an opportunity
to be Jalen Hurts for Philly in the game. But
they weren't able to do that, and so to me,
I just think that when I look at him, it
just comes across as a team that has talent in
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certain places. You have a franchise quarterback, but you just
have not been able as a team, as a franchise
figured out how to get over the threshold of where
you're at, which almost is in a way kind of
reminiscent of the teams that went to the Super Bowl
and couldn't win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
You know, they they moved on from Ken Dorsey and
Joe Brady's now had two games, and I gotta be honest, like,
I don't know how different this team is with Joe
Brady call him plays. I know at times they were
a complimentary of Joe Brady getting into a rhythm, but
when you really like go back and watch that game,
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what you end up coming back to is it's still
the same thing. In order for the Bills to have
a shot of winning games, Josh Allen has to be superman.
He's gonna have to lead him in rushing. He's gonna
have to make plays downfield, you know, with the football,
or extend plays with his legs to throw downfield. It's
the same thing, and I just I keep going back
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to like how long is that sustainable? And I know
they've been injured on defense and that's played a role,
but it just it feels like it's always an uphill
battle and he has to do something that's spectacular in
order for them to be able to win games. And
it's a tough world to live in the NFL, and
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so I'm sure he feels it more than anyone, and
he's such a special player, but I mean, when it
just it feels like that's that's what they have to
do every single week. Offensively, there's there's no basic run
game where they can get it going consistently. They're inconsistent
in that respect. You know, Stefan Diggs gets eleven targets
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this week. The previous week was an eight for like
four catches versus the Jets, and you know, give Jets credit,
but you go through the season, there's games where he
explodes and has big games. There's games when he doesn't.
And I don't know if that's play calling. I don't
know if that's you know what you point to. I mean,
obviously that was where the finger was pointed earlier this year,
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but there is just it's something off It's like, outside
of Josh Allen showing up and being Superman every game,
you don't see the rest of that from whoever it is.
That's that's a part of it. But this one felt
like a backbreaker for Buffalo. I really felt like they
thought they were gonna win a regulation. What's the window overtime,
as Brendan Graham said, it didn't matter, don't matter.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, And they were in control for a lot of
the game too, and then you know, they bounce back,
they retake the lead and get to overtime and it's
the same old.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Store, such a long kick, and you know, they just
seemed like Philly was just confident and just you know,
like we're not even going to take any real risk,
any unnecessary and unnecessary plays or risk to try to
move the ball. They were like very vanilla plays leading
up to that field goal. And he banged that thing,
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banged it right on out.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, got a lot of respect for kickers, And I
mean this weekend particularly, you started getting down this time
of the season with the weather's like it is, and
you got to think about it too, man, Like they
get one shot at that thing, They had one shot,
and then they get out there and if they hit it,
it's like they only get applauded or appreciated for the
kicks they hit. I mean, it was fun watching everyone
(16:58):
celva with Jake Elliott. But I'm like, man, he misses that.
It's not like anyone's come over and talking to him.
And that's a tough life of a kicker.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You know, you think you think Philly fans are booing
him off the field if he misses it.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh, bro, it's Philly fans, man, It's probably the booing
is probably the least of it.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
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Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh yeah, uh huh letois coul Swags. He went Philly
on y'all hits out with some boys and men because
we was, you know, we were being very very inappropriate
talking about Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You know, two pros and a cup of Joe here
Fox Sports Radio. Have you have you seen boys to
mend line?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Never skip a beat?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Nah, because I know somebody on this show has I have?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, I have awesome.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
It was Oho we come jusy.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know I used that to break up with a
girl before, did you really?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I did.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I was too afraid. I was too afraid and and
just not like developed enough to say that, Like, I
just don't want you to be my girlfriend anymore. I
don't want to be your boyfriend. So I I sent,
I sent, I put a DVD with a note in
in her mailbox. You mean CD, CD CD. Yeah, I
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put a CD with that one singular song on the CD.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I mean, by the way, I put myself in this
category too. But you kind of forget when we were young,
like CDs just came out you're right.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
DVDs weren't even on the C that is, and I
apologize you're you're right for your correct That's how old we.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Are, though.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
God, I should love DVD's had a very short shelf
life though.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I showed LeVar my CD.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah he's still he still has a CD. I guess
liked a binder. He has a CD binder.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Put up on your advisor, you keep them on there.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, there's that one too. That is crazy that man
pulled out a CD binder. Yeah, I look, I mean
I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Like, Hey, man, this out some chain's album back from
nineteen ninety six already, I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I don't know how that makes me feel in terms
of my judgment of you, as if I should be
your friend outside of work when you still have.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I'll tell you what you can say. What you want,
you get in my truck, a little two thousand and
six Toyota Action and I Rock get Born Again by
a I c Oh God, you'll feel it in your bone.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
What does your sound system sound like?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Is it good?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Is it all trouble?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
No, it's stock.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
What do you mean you stock with the turned up
too high?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I don't know, man, I feel for you, but that
is what it is. I don't enough feeling for you.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I would play Sanford in some but I don't have
that CD.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, the Chargers last night.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Huh right, well there it is.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
That's that's the Chargers. That's when they come out to
the come on your big dummies, come on play y'all's game. Yeah,
Sunday night, after coming out of that Eagles Bills game,
we had to watch them LA Chargers take on to Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
And now the Baltimore Ravens have taken over the one
seed in the AFC. At at present coming home resting moment,
the Baltimore Ravens are the one seed. And hey, I'm
going to be unemployed. Listen, we've been nummy, We've been
pounding the table. When are they going to get Zay
(22:35):
Flowers more involved? And last night was the game and
the Baltimore raven was the guy done. And look, the
Chargers defense held tight. But listen, a couple of fumbles
early on in the first half for LA put them
in a bad spot. Just me.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
So what you mean is Baltimore's defense held tight.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
The Chargers did as well too, but you know, but Baltimore, Baltimore,
they were caught and turnovers. Yeah, and you know, Za
Flowers Ice is the game. Even though we were talking
about kickers, Man Khalil is a beast. Justin Tucker has
missed how many kids like five kicks this year. It's
a little disappointing, like kickers are making a rebound and
(23:13):
Justin Tucker's missing kicks depressing, But nonetheless, the Baltimore Ravens
at nine and three, currently are the one seed in
the AFC playoffs right now, how about that? How about
those Ravens Well.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
I mean they feel like the most consistent team in
the AFC right now with the way they've been able
to play. I mean I feel kind of similar almost
to Philly right now, Like I trust Lamar, I trust
Baltimore at least at this point the season. Now, when
they get the playoffs, it's a different story because we
haven't seen that quite as much. But man, they can
get after it. But at the story of this game
(23:46):
is the Chargers, right Like, it just feels like the
way they started the game defensively, when you have to
take a time out your very first defensive play of
the game because you've got twelve men on the field.
It's a bad, bad sign.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I mean, it might also be a bad sign when
they don't realize that it's third down and not second down,
which look, you can blame the Chain gang for that.
Early on, they were also looking for a roughing the
PA or a personal foul on Justin Herbert going out
of bounds and cracked early, and.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
It could have been probably could have been. I mean,
for all the fouls that they call for that that it.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Should have been. That was an awfully officiated game.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, it should have been a flag. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Not a great performance by anybody, but it's good to
hear Jason Garrett on the call. And a lot of
people were very critical of Jason Garrett's call last night
on Sunday Night Football. But the Baltimore Ravens do feel
like the most consistent team. As Brady pointed out, I'll
say this, the losses that they've got this year, you
can look at each one of them and go, how
(24:47):
the hell they lose that game? Remember that game? So
the three losses this year were against Indianapolis where Nick
Folk had like four fifty yard field goals, like he
outkicked Justin Tucker in that game, and then you had
you had the Steeler game, which was a disaster where
Pittsburgh you know or no, it was Matt Gay who
kicked the four fifty yard field goals, not Nick Folk
(25:08):
who cares take that out of the podcast, Lee, don't
folk around with that, please get out of the Poleees
do not. And then you had the Steelers game, which
was terrible, and then you had the Browns game in
which they shouldn't have lost, and they lost that game,
Like in reality, this is a team we should probably
have one maybe one loss on the year, and they're
(25:29):
sitting atop the AFC and this could be the year
that the teas that is the Baltimore Ravens finally gets
a done bar fine.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
He and OBJ looks pretty good too. I mean he
looks like he's moving moving well. They have weapons, they
have multiple weapons. And then you got Big Gus. You
got a good running game. I mean, this is vintage Baltimore.
They use the run, they played defense, and they have
some receivers and listen, I don't I don't look at
(26:02):
I don't look at them as they have a guy
that would be any different than what Mason represented for
them or or what Quadrishmal represented to them, Like, I
kind of feel like they're on par with the teams
that won Super Bowls. I mean name them. I mean,
I like Zay Flowers, but I mean, is he is
(26:25):
he that far removed from what you know, the guys
you saw when it was a ravens led defense, a
ravens let running again, running attack, and then you throw
the ball. You you leverage your tight end, which they've
lost their tight end, but usually they're a tight end
first team. You know, you go back to the Todd
Heaps different you know those types of names. Sharp for
(26:47):
the first Super Bowl, right, yeah, right, So I wore
Shannon sharp ass out too.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I wore him. Wow, my rookie year. I beat the
ship at.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Oh oh Sam, how are we doing, Buddy?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I hit that one. I hit that one. Let me say,
but it was it was one of them type of games.
And Jonas just pulled pistols at the same time. Duel
of the dump.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
No, that was me.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I got it, Okay, I got it in the Levara.
I knew I was gonna say it. Thanks, I knew
I was going to say it. So whatever, Thank you
guys for being on top of that I was feeling very,
very spicy for you've never seen that happen before.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Was just gonna ask because I know that's a fellow e,
a s H partner. He went out, he found.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You taking if you watch that, if you were to
ever pull up the two thousand Washington Redskins and Baltimore Ravens, no,
you can't dump that because that if you look up
the game, it does not say the Commanders and the Ravens. Okay,
and two thousand that's what it would be called. You
cannot say that I'm using this bearaging language here because
(28:01):
that's what it would be labeled in the archives if
you went to watch it. Okay, which, by the way,
I'm going back to DC to do charity work with
our our vets and our first responders too, with with
the Commanders. So yeah, for the first time in like
I don't know how many years, but anyway, I am.
I am going back. But this team is a very
(28:22):
balanced team, you know. To get back to the point
that I was making that was kind of funny, I
just want I just want to make sure y'all was
paying attention to me. So yeah, yeah, I dumped it.
But this this this Ravens team gives me super Bowl vibes.
I just don't know if Lamar and I hate to
(28:46):
say it because I'm a Lamar Jackson fan, but with
that being said, I'm gonna shoot from the hip. He's
got to prove that he can do it in the playoffs.
Like if you're gonna ask me, what is the one
answer that has to be question? Question that has to
be answer? What's the biggest burning question? If I'm looking
at the Ravens and I'm saying this is the team
to go to the super Bowl out of the AFC
this year, I would say that Lamar Jackson has to
(29:09):
be the one who answers that question.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I think. To answer that and to make it easier,
they've got to get the top seed. That'd be the
first step because that plays a tough place to play.
Man winning in Baltimore, it's tough to do. But he
hasn't really finished the season the past few years. Yeah,
he's getting sick, he's been injured. So this is the
second best start I think they've had since what the
(29:32):
start of the I think this is in their franchise history,
like through this many games, it's the second they're tied
for the second best start. He just needs to stay
healthy at this point, because we've seen other times where
the Ravens have got off to this sort of start
and then he's gotten hurt, or he's been sick, or
something's happened that's caused them to lose games down the
(29:52):
stretch and not go into it where you've got home
field throughout, if they get a bye, if they get
home field throughout, and you only got to win two
to get to that game. Man, Like, it's hard not
to look at this Baltimore team and think that they
can't do it. Like I just I think that's how
you stack the deck in your favor as best you can.
(30:14):
So again, they've been fun to watch, man, They're tough,
and you have to credit John Harbaugh making the transition
to Todd Munk and as play caller, Todd Monkin breathing
life into this and now you're seeing Lamar play some
of his best football. He's in a system that plays
to his strengths. It still incorporates all the things you're
(30:35):
talking about. But passing wise, I think he's completely what
seventy percent of his passes right now. I mean, this
is one of his best years, and if there's anyone
who doubted whether or he could do it, it was
always there. It was just a matter of being in
a system that allows him to be able to do it.
And he's in that now. So they look to be
to me, the most consistent AFC team right now. And
(30:55):
I know the Chiefs one big, but it's hard to
watch the beginning of that game and feel overly confident
about it. You kind of always just hang your hat on, Well,
it's the Chiefs, it's Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, Andy Reid,
That defense has much improved, Like they'll figure it out,
and maybe they are starting to figure it out as
Rashi Rice starts to take on a more prominent role,
(31:15):
But man, Baltimore's that team. I just I feel like
the pressure's mounting for the Chargers right like that's where
this ultimately goes. And it wasn't the defense necessarily that
that put them in that spot last night. Offensively, that
was that was a struggle, you know for the Chargers,
and we haven't really seen that they've actually been able
to put up points, but it just it feels like
(31:38):
the pressure is mounting on Brandon Stali and whether or
not he's going to be able to make it through
the end of the season.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, the pressure's mounting on them Ohio teams in the
AFC North, and you got the Baltimore Ravens playing at
such a high level, and the Pittsburgh Steelers are just creepers.
They're like, they're just straight creepers. And I wonder that
is that creeping going to creep up on the Ravens
(32:04):
in the North or do the Ravens run away with it?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Now? I think they found they found We'll talk about
it later on, but okay, I think they found something.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I mean, okay, I'm I'm I have some thoughts on
that as well, and I would tend to concur but
I will say I'm interested to hear why you think
they found something versus what I felt like.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
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Oh man, that's how it sounds in your truck.
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Speaker 3 (33:14):
At least he was open and honest about you know
that is true, transparent.
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Speaker 8 (34:09):
La good everybody more, guys, in case you missed it, Well,
you wouldn't have missed this if you were watching NFL
Red Zone yesterday. Guys, in case you missed it, At
the end of that broadcast, you started hearing a little
bit of a fire alarm, at which point Scott Hanson
announced to the audience that there was indeed a fire
(34:30):
alarm going on and that they were all being evacuated
from the building.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Uh, everyone in the.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Control room was had to leave, but Scott only left
temporarily before coming back and finishing that Bill's Eagles game.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
What a guy, Yeah, what a guy. That's Scott Hanson.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Is did he just have to go to the bathroom
so he pulled the fire alarm? Is that what happened?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I mean, maybe that was the fire alarm.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Okay, it's not like it hasn't happened to us before.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Yeah, it did end up being a false alarm, nobody
was hurt.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Falsome arm, sell me along.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, we've got plenty of those.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, I think that he handled a lot better than
we do. We just get annoyed on the air because
god forbid, there's like the chance that it's a.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Real very piercing noise though, you know, and they give
you the hits up generally that they're going to blow
your ears out. Why you're on air all the time.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
The interesting thing is like, was it a test? I mean,
you'd think that on a Sunday it might make some
sense if there's like an emergency test they had to do.
Whoever set it up, it's probably some guy who doesn't
watch football, doesn't like ever think about, Hey, maybe this
would be a bad idea on a Sunday NFL network
because what happens to us Obviously it's in l a
(35:44):
three am to six am Pacific. They're like, oh no,
what's working these hours?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
So yeah, which is a little disrespectful to us, it is.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
But I mean, what are you gonna do about it? Jonas?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, send Leadio sniff it out like we always do.
Yeh out.
Speaker 9 (36:05):
Hey Lee, guys, in case you missed this high before
that Texans Jags game yesterday.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
C J.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Stroud was temporarily locked out of the locker room at
NRG Stadium on his way to the game. Somebody came
to try and help him open the door was also unsuccessful,
but luckily somebody was on the other side.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Let the midt.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
No man man.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I had a special knock for the door that I
went in boom boom, boom, boom boom, and then they
opened the door. That we do. Yeah, that was my
little secret entrance.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
How do you think the door finally got opened? You
think his agent called pulled a couple of strings.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
That would be the one to do it. That would
certainly you do know who his agent. You know who
his agent is though, right, good pool, by the way,
quick on your toes.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
CJ. Straw was fantastic yesterday. I'm a fan and he
threw three picks the week before. He bounced back nicely.
They lost the game, but.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
That's all right.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
He didn't lose fifty try and you know.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
He's next to Jalen Hurts of the m v P race.
I mean, if you think about it too, if there's
ever a year to do it burrows out the rest
of the season out of there. He's got to compete with
Dak and Jalen. But Dak is balling Josh Allen. The's
six and six and they've got to win. If they don't,
he can't be a part of it, and Herbert can't
really be a part of it winning Like Maholmes is
(37:42):
the one that's the other one that's going.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
To be a course.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
But Strout's stats ridiculous in there.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Oh yeah, CJ, go do your thing, CJ.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Guys, In case you missed it.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Raiders are expected to release Marcus Peters after benching him
in the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Ke damn Culture shopf AP is releasing you. That's bad.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
What do you mean by that? Oh my goshm hmm
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How the hell we feel here on a Monday morning, Good, good,
post Turkey Day, post Turkey Day, Yeah, Turkey mortal, excited,
fired up, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I feel rested. How about yourself? Yeah, feeling I mean it.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Was probably the first time I've gotten more than six
hours sleep in consecutive days.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Real, see, I can't do it. Yeah, my bladder, it's
so funny. My body is okay, Like my mind is
okay with staying sleep on our day. He's off. My
bladder is still on the same Uh, it's still on
the same schedule.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
That means I gotta get up, I gotta go, I
gotta go handle that. And I generally just stay awake.
I just start working on business and you handle that,
don't you. I do absolutely got Yeah. I saw you
guys dancing on the sideline on Saturday. I was really
excited for you guys dancing. Yeah, you guys, you don't
(02:26):
remember dancing on the sideline in ann Arbor was dancing.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
We were trying to mess with Rob for one of
his hits at one point, which he kind of turned
the tables on us.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Oh, maybe it was more so. I mean I saw
you guys. I could have sworn you guys were jamming
on the sideline, and then.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It might have been we might have been jamming. There
was one song we'd hear it everywhere we went, and
we actually learned the name of it when we're in
Penn State. Well, well, the nice young man young men
one of the fans there, told us, he's like, this
is the name of that song. Oh, oh gosh, man,
we were asking for the entire year. Huh.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, of course it would have been someone that Penn
State that would have and courteous and kind enough to
offer that that uh, information to Happy Valley.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
They called it way correct. The group that actually sits
up where a set was, it's the same group of
guys that was there last year. They're they're a funny group, man.
There they were there. They're kind of I think they're
from uh, I think they're from Jersey. Nice, but they
would like try to like heckle a little bit. But
then they're like cool just to kind of talking ball
and all that. Most of the time gambling too, which
is kind of funny. I was like, you should you
(03:26):
just talk to Jonas. He doesn't win many but if
you fade him, you'll win a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I didn't this weekend, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That you do know that Jonas did the cow Herd
Show when we were all off and and you know,
it's just been it's been a whirlwind of of just
all kinds of praise and and just you know, happiness
around Jonas doing that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Oh yeah, did you have any dynamic guests Jonas? Is
that why, like what made the show so special?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think we went live to ann Arber at one point,
got a got a Scott Staper foremance uh wow by
by somebody there. So somebody who's you know, just a
Heisman finalist TV star. Dang, you had Brady On? I
was talking about rob Stone.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, Brady On, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
See? That's fed up man. So I had to wait
for Saturday. Huh Yeah. And I had the request to
be all bad way you have.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
To tell you well?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I actually he said something to me and then I
reach I was like, yeah, anything I could do to
help you, let me know.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So very interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He thought it was somebody else. I think the truth
comes out. He'd gotten confused. Otherwise he wouldn't have come on.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But the odd thing was like you didn't want to sing,
and like you actually sang like you ran a band.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I was laying out for you, like you know, I
were laying out for him. My singing days are over.
So I learned my lesson being a part of a
bad band. But you know it's fine. Listen. It was
all good. It was a fun time, fun weekend for all,
fun weekend in the NFL and college for foot ball,
and a fun weekend if you're a Philadelphia Eagle fan,
because man, oh man, they somehow figure out ways to
(05:07):
win games.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You remember how I told you though that Philly fans
PA fans are like real a holes, like real a holes.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
How many times do you think they were like if
you we suck? Oh wait wait wait oh we're great,
We're good, We're good. Okay, now you we sucked. You
remember we were making that's a Philly fan.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
We were making the case after the Monday Night came
against the Chiefs and we were saying, man, Philly just
somehow figures out, Like I don't know that I trust
another team in a close game than Philly in the
league right now.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's kind of like the mentality of the streets of Philadelphia. Man,
like close close, close close, Uh you scratch your scrounge
like like almost like you know, what comes to mind.
The the physical embodiment of it is Joe Frasier.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's like you're just you're tough, your hard nose, you're bully,
You're you're going to take the punches, but you're going
to deliver the blows. That's Philly. That's like literally what
their football team is this year. And I actually find
them very fun to watch. I enjoy watching Philly play.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, I mean the first off, they're extremely talented, and
they're extremely talented. It's it's fun to watch them, in
my opinion, because you've got some of the best players
in the league.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
On one team, sure, and.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
They've drafted well, they've developed well, so that you kind
of I mean, at least for any of us that's
followed college football. You get to see a guy like
Jordan Davis playing the next level and you're like, yep,
still has a pretty biggest pack. He's so big.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
He damned there killed himself when he fell on his belly. Yeah,
that fell on his belly.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
You don't have to win out of himself. He rolled over.
How's it?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Trisan was sitting there like, is he okay? I said,
man that let me just get put this in perspective,
and I told them how big he was and how
much he wait, and they're like, oh, so where you said?
As he knocked the wind out of himself, that was it.
He was moving fast.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I mean, they say the bigger they are, the harder
they fall. There's not a lie.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
They say. Grizzly bears run faster the horses downhill downhill.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think the thing I kind of came away with
was one Jalen Hurts plays with like a sense of
poison confidence. That's just the fun to watch, easier root for.
There's just something about him, man, and like the entire
team embodies him as a leader because there's a stark
(07:42):
contrast between Hurts and obviously Nick Sirianni like firing going,
like very outgoing. Yeah it's it's I mean, it'll be
telling people off. I think I saw him in the tunnel.
He was yelled at people in Kansas City. So it's
just two completely different personalities. And Hurts has such a cool,
(08:03):
calm and collected demeanor, and I think everyone kind of
embodies that because they feel that and they see like,
all right, if they get the ball, we're gonna win.
He's gonna drive down and he's gonna find a way
of making a play to make it happen. I mean,
I look back on that game and I just say,
it's literally it was the difference between Buffalo's last series
(08:25):
in regulation and they're bringing all out blitz. Gabe Davis
is running the corner and look, you know, if you're
Josh Allen, you like him to drift back and throw
it up to a spot because he's gonna get hit
and he's not going to be able to stand in
there and get the ball off where the corner is
going to be. He threw it more like he was
going vertical up the field. So in one way, you'd
(08:47):
like to say, all right, you're the quarterback. If you
throw him more towards the corner, he's gonna fade to
and hopefully see it make a catch on it. Right.
The other thing is Gabe Davis has to know it's
Blitz zero and has to look sooner like sometimes and
I said this before. Wide receiver's gravest mistake when running routes.
It's not having any clue what's going on around the
(09:09):
line of scrimmage, not looking in saying wait, I'm one
on one. There's no safety out here. I need to
look quick because it's Bood zero. There's an extra guy.
They're not going to be able to block them. I
need to look quicker in my route. And he obviously didn't,
like he had no clue what the ball was. So
that ultimately ends up in the field goal and the
way Philly drove down at the end of the game.
(09:29):
And I know it's a long field goal for Jake Elliott,
but I was like, what's the guy in the overtime.
I'm like, well, it doesn't matter, like Philly's going to
win this game.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That was a long field goal.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I couldn't believe he made it in those conditions, and
it was he made it the ball too right. It
was moving. Yeah, that ball was moving like it almost
looked like it could have curved. It could have hit
a hard bank any different direction because of the way
to win was grabbing it. But man, talk about clutch.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Did they just win close games?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Well, it's not even that. It's like the Bills can't
win one in overtime. Now in that he ever won
an overtime game, and so it was like that little
detail of that. But zero play led ultimately in overtime,
ultimately to like game game over. Like you knew Jalen Hurts.
Once they got the ball they were gonna make enough
place to go win that game.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Say I need it to score. I was just wondering.
I was like, okay, are they going to get it in?
Are you going to get it in? Then they kicked
the field guy. I was like, man, this this a wrap.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well it was when they did the coin flip for overtime.
The Bills won the toss and elected to receive Randon
grams like don't matter, like you knew their.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Romo and Nance didn't say anything about it, Like excuse me,
now you know Jason Garrett and Tarika, But no, no, that
was Romo Nance, I was Romanance. Sorry. Those games sort
of bloaying into each other with the with the how
late that one started? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, I thought they would have said something about it,
like I don't think they made mention of it. Maybe
they didn't hear it.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, no matter.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Josh Allen after the game, and Josh Allen did have
a great game. He had the interception, but he did
play really really well well scrambled, made a lot of
plays with his feet and you know, kept the Bills
in it and had them in a good position to
try and win the game. He spoke afterwards about just
the situation that Buffalo is in with their season on
the line.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
I'm extremely confident in our guys and the men that
we have in this locker room, you know, and we
understand where we're at, so we gotta get things going again.
I think effort was there, execution was there. I just
got to make a couple more plays, and you know,
there's a couple of we wish.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
We had back.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So does feel like Buffalo's in a little bit of
a tough spot here with the season. That was a
big one yesterday they could have won, they did not.
They've lost three of their last four, they fired a coordinator.
They're going to be at Kansas City coming up next week.
If they had Dallas the Chargers after that. So it's
going to be a tricky schedule for the Buffalo Bills
the rest of the way. If they get in they're dangerous.
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But if they don't, again, I just wonder what sort
of they have.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
To win four? I mean, what do you think they
have to win four games in order to be able
to to get at ten.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It's a bipolar team.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Man. Ten feels like the threshold. And if you want
to be in the conversation and just never know, the
only thing that you know you're going to get is
what you don't know what you're going to get from
the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I hate to say it, but you get you get
a good team at times, you get a team that
could actually be great at times. That good team can
win or lose games. That great team, that team that
shows greatness they win games. They can win big games.
I just think that they are, like there's such an anomaly.
(12:32):
I don't. I don't. I can't figure them out. Like
you watch them, you know you got you got pieces.
Now they deal with injuries. I get that, but they
still show that they have the ability to be able
to compete at a high levels. It's not like you
were watching this game against Philly and it's like, oh,
they're getting out class. Clearly they were. They were very
evenly matched. It looked like an evenly matched game. But
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they didn't come out on top. And at some point
point and you know, I had to be the guy
that said, I feel like this team hit its ceiling
last year. But I just feel like I see certain
things that take place, like a game against Philly that
they could have pulled out. I mean in a couple
of different instances. And I'll just go no further than
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just the overtime. If they punched the ball in, you
don't even give the ball back to Jalen Hurts. He
doesn't even get it. He doesn't even get an opportunity
to be Jalen Hurts for Philly in the game. But
they weren't able to do that, and so to me,
I just think that when I look at him, it
just comes across as a team that has talent in
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certain places. You have a franchise quarterback, but you just
have not been able as a team, as a franchise
figured out how to get over the threshold of where
you're at, which almost is in a way kind of
reminiscent of the teams that went to the Super Bowl
and couldn't win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
You know, they they moved on from Ken Dorsey and
Joe Brady's now had two games, and I gotta be honest, like,
I don't know how different this team is with Joe
Brady call him plays. I know at times they were
a complimentary of Joe Brady getting into a rhythm, but
when you really like go back and watch that game,
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what you end up coming back to is it's still
the same thing. In order for the Bills to have
a shot of winning games, Josh Allen has to be superman.
He's gonna have to lead him in rushing. He's gonna
have to make plays downfield, you know, with the football,
or extend plays with his legs to throw downfield. It's
the same thing, and I just I keep going back
(14:40):
to like how long is that sustainable? And I know
they've been injured on defense and that's played a role,
but it just it feels like it's always an uphill
battle and he has to do something that's spectacular in
order for them to be able to win games. And
it's a tough world to live in the NFL, and
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so I'm sure he feels it more than anyone, and
he's such a special player, but I mean, when it
just it feels like that's that's what they have to
do every single week. Offensively, there's there's no basic run
game where they can get it going consistently. They're inconsistent
in that respect. You know, Stefan Diggs gets eleven targets
(15:22):
this week. The previous week was an eight for like
four catches versus the Jets, and you know, give Jets credit,
but you go through the season, there's games where he
explodes and has big games. There's games when he doesn't.
And I don't know if that's play calling. I don't
know if that's you know what you point to. I mean,
obviously that was where the finger was pointed earlier this year,
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but there is just it's something off It's like, outside
of Josh Allen showing up and being Superman every game,
you don't see the rest of that from whoever it is.
That's that's a part of it. But this one felt
like a backbreaker for Buffalo. I really felt like they
thought they were gonna win a regulation. What's the window overtime,
as Brendan Graham said, it didn't matter, don't matter.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, And they were in control for a lot of
the game too, and then you know, they bounce back,
they retake the lead and get to overtime and it's
the same old.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Store, such a long kick, and you know, they just
seemed like Philly was just confident and just you know,
like we're not even going to take any real risk,
any unnecessary and unnecessary plays or risk to try to
move the ball. They were like very vanilla plays leading
up to that field goal. And he banged that thing,
(16:36):
banged it right on out.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, got a lot of respect for kickers, And I
mean this weekend particularly, you started getting down this time
of the season with the weather's like it is, and
you got to think about it too, man, Like they
get one shot at that thing, They had one shot,
and then they get out there and if they hit it,
it's like they only get applauded or appreciated for the
kicks they hit. I mean, it was fun watching everyone
(16:58):
celva with Jake Elliott. But I'm like, man, he misses that.
It's not like anyone's come over and talking to him.
And that's a tough life of a kicker.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You know, you think you think Philly fans are booing
him off the field if he misses it.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Oh, bro, it's Philly fans, man, It's probably the booing
is probably the least of it.
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Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh yeah, uh huh letois coul Swags. He went Philly
on y'all hits out with some boys and men because
we was, you know, we were being very very inappropriate
talking about Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You know, two pros and a cup of Joe here
Fox Sports Radio. Have you have you seen boys to
mend line?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Never skip a beat?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Nah, because I know somebody on this show has I have?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, I have awesome.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
It was Oho we come jusy.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know I used that to break up with a
girl before, did you really?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
I did.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I was too afraid. I was too afraid and and
just not like developed enough to say that, Like, I
just don't want you to be my girlfriend anymore. I
don't want to be your boyfriend. So I I sent,
I sent, I put a DVD with a note in
in her mailbox. You mean CD, CD CD. Yeah, I
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put a CD with that one singular song on the CD.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I mean, by the way, I put myself in this
category too. But you kind of forget when we were young,
like CDs just came out you're right.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
DVDs weren't even on the C that is, and I
apologize you're you're right for your correct That's how old we.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Are, though.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
God, I should love DVD's had a very short shelf
life though.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I showed LeVar my CD.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah he's still he still has a CD. I guess
liked a binder. He has a CD binder.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Put up on your advisor, you keep them on there.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, there's that one too. That is crazy that man
pulled out a CD binder. Yeah, I look, I mean
I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Like, Hey, man, this out some chain's album back from
nineteen ninety six already, I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I don't know how that makes me feel in terms
of my judgment of you, as if I should be
your friend outside of work when you still have.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I'll tell you what you can say. What you want,
you get in my truck, a little two thousand and
six Toyota Action and I Rock get Born Again by
a I c Oh God, you'll feel it in your bone.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
What does your sound system sound like?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Is it good?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Is it all trouble?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
No, it's stock.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
What do you mean you stock with the turned up
too high?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I don't know, man, I feel for you, but that
is what it is. I don't enough feeling for you.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I would play Sanford in some but I don't have
that CD.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, the Chargers last night.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Huh right, well there it is.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
That's that's the Chargers. That's when they come out to
the come on your big dummies, come on play y'all's game. Yeah,
Sunday night, after coming out of that Eagles Bills game,
we had to watch them LA Chargers take on to Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
And now the Baltimore Ravens have taken over the one
seed in the AFC. At at present coming home resting moment,
the Baltimore Ravens are the one seed. And hey, I'm
going to be unemployed. Listen, we've been nummy, We've been
pounding the table. When are they going to get Zay
(22:35):
Flowers more involved? And last night was the game and
the Baltimore raven was the guy done. And look, the
Chargers defense held tight. But listen, a couple of fumbles
early on in the first half for LA put them
in a bad spot. Just me.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
So what you mean is Baltimore's defense held tight.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
The Chargers did as well too, but you know, but Baltimore, Baltimore,
they were caught and turnovers. Yeah, and you know, Za
Flowers Ice is the game. Even though we were talking
about kickers, Man Khalil is a beast. Justin Tucker has
missed how many kids like five kicks this year. It's
a little disappointing, like kickers are making a rebound and
(23:13):
Justin Tucker's missing kicks depressing, But nonetheless, the Baltimore Ravens
at nine and three, currently are the one seed in
the AFC playoffs right now, how about that? How about
those Ravens Well.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
I mean they feel like the most consistent team in
the AFC right now with the way they've been able
to play. I mean I feel kind of similar almost
to Philly right now, Like I trust Lamar, I trust
Baltimore at least at this point the season. Now, when
they get the playoffs, it's a different story because we
haven't seen that quite as much. But man, they can
get after it. But at the story of this game
(23:46):
is the Chargers, right Like, it just feels like the
way they started the game defensively, when you have to
take a time out your very first defensive play of
the game because you've got twelve men on the field.
It's a bad, bad sign.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I mean, it might also be a bad sign when
they don't realize that it's third down and not second down,
which look, you can blame the Chain gang for that.
Early on, they were also looking for a roughing the
PA or a personal foul on Justin Herbert going out
of bounds and cracked early, and.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
It could have been probably could have been. I mean,
for all the fouls that they call for that that it.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Should have been. That was an awfully officiated game.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, it should have been a flag. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Not a great performance by anybody, but it's good to
hear Jason Garrett on the call. And a lot of
people were very critical of Jason Garrett's call last night
on Sunday Night Football. But the Baltimore Ravens do feel
like the most consistent team. As Brady pointed out, I'll
say this, the losses that they've got this year, you
can look at each one of them and go, how
(24:47):
the hell they lose that game? Remember that game? So
the three losses this year were against Indianapolis where Nick
Folk had like four fifty yard field goals, like he
outkicked Justin Tucker in that game, and then you had
you had the Steeler game, which was a disaster where
Pittsburgh you know or no, it was Matt Gay who
kicked the four fifty yard field goals, not Nick Folk
(25:08):
who cares take that out of the podcast, Lee, don't
folk around with that, please get out of the Poleees
do not. And then you had the Steelers game, which
was terrible, and then you had the Browns game in
which they shouldn't have lost, and they lost that game,
Like in reality, this is a team we should probably
have one maybe one loss on the year, and they're
(25:29):
sitting atop the AFC and this could be the year
that the teas that is the Baltimore Ravens finally gets
a done bar fine.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
He and OBJ looks pretty good too. I mean he
looks like he's moving moving well. They have weapons, they
have multiple weapons. And then you got Big Gus. You
got a good running game. I mean, this is vintage Baltimore.
They use the run, they played defense, and they have
some receivers and listen, I don't I don't look at
(26:02):
I don't look at them as they have a guy
that would be any different than what Mason represented for
them or or what Quadrishmal represented to them, Like, I
kind of feel like they're on par with the teams
that won Super Bowls. I mean name them. I mean,
I like Zay Flowers, but I mean, is he is
(26:25):
he that far removed from what you know, the guys
you saw when it was a ravens led defense, a
ravens let running again, running attack, and then you throw
the ball. You you leverage your tight end, which they've
lost their tight end, but usually they're a tight end
first team. You know, you go back to the Todd
Heaps different you know those types of names. Sharp for
(26:47):
the first Super Bowl, right, yeah, right, So I wore
Shannon sharp ass out too.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I wore him. Wow, my rookie year. I beat the
ship at.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Oh oh Sam, how are we doing, Buddy?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I hit that one. I hit that one. Let me say,
but it was it was one of them type of games.
And Jonas just pulled pistols at the same time. Duel
of the dump.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
No, that was me.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I got it, Okay, I got it in the Levara.
I knew I was gonna say it. Thanks, I knew
I was going to say it. So whatever, Thank you
guys for being on top of that I was feeling very,
very spicy for you've never seen that happen before.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Was just gonna ask because I know that's a fellow e,
a s H partner. He went out, he found.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You taking if you watch that, if you were to
ever pull up the two thousand Washington Redskins and Baltimore Ravens, no,
you can't dump that because that if you look up
the game, it does not say the Commanders and the Ravens. Okay,
and two thousand that's what it would be called. You
cannot say that I'm using this bearaging language here because
(28:01):
that's what it would be labeled in the archives if
you went to watch it. Okay, which, by the way,
I'm going back to DC to do charity work with
our our vets and our first responders too, with with
the Commanders. So yeah, for the first time in like
I don't know how many years, but anyway, I am.
I am going back. But this team is a very
(28:22):
balanced team, you know. To get back to the point
that I was making that was kind of funny, I
just want I just want to make sure y'all was
paying attention to me. So yeah, yeah, I dumped it.
But this this this Ravens team gives me super Bowl vibes.
I just don't know if Lamar and I hate to
(28:46):
say it because I'm a Lamar Jackson fan, but with
that being said, I'm gonna shoot from the hip. He's
got to prove that he can do it in the playoffs.
Like if you're gonna ask me, what is the one
answer that has to be question? Question that has to
be answer? What's the biggest burning question? If I'm looking
at the Ravens and I'm saying this is the team
to go to the super Bowl out of the AFC
this year, I would say that Lamar Jackson has to
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be the one who answers that question.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I think. To answer that and to make it easier,
they've got to get the top seed. That'd be the
first step because that plays a tough place to play.
Man winning in Baltimore, it's tough to do. But he
hasn't really finished the season the past few years. Yeah,
he's getting sick, he's been injured. So this is the
second best start I think they've had since what the
(29:32):
start of the I think this is in their franchise history,
like through this many games, it's the second they're tied
for the second best start. He just needs to stay
healthy at this point, because we've seen other times where
the Ravens have got off to this sort of start
and then he's gotten hurt, or he's been sick, or
something's happened that's caused them to lose games down the
(29:52):
stretch and not go into it where you've got home
field throughout, if they get a bye, if they get
home field throughout, and you only got to win two
to get to that game. Man, Like, it's hard not
to look at this Baltimore team and think that they
can't do it. Like I just I think that's how
you stack the deck in your favor as best you can.
(30:14):
So again, they've been fun to watch, man, They're tough,
and you have to credit John Harbaugh making the transition
to Todd Munk and as play caller, Todd Monkin breathing
life into this and now you're seeing Lamar play some
of his best football. He's in a system that plays
to his strengths. It still incorporates all the things you're
(30:35):
talking about. But passing wise, I think he's completely what
seventy percent of his passes right now. I mean, this
is one of his best years, and if there's anyone
who doubted whether or he could do it, it was
always there. It was just a matter of being in
a system that allows him to be able to do it.
And he's in that now. So they look to be
to me, the most consistent AFC team right now. And
(30:55):
I know the Chiefs one big, but it's hard to
watch the beginning of that game and feel overly confident
about it. You kind of always just hang your hat on, Well,
it's the Chiefs, it's Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, Andy Reid,
That defense has much improved, Like they'll figure it out,
and maybe they are starting to figure it out as
Rashi Rice starts to take on a more prominent role,
(31:15):
But man, Baltimore's that team. I just I feel like
the pressure's mounting for the Chargers right like that's where
this ultimately goes. And it wasn't the defense necessarily that
that put them in that spot last night. Offensively, that
was that was a struggle, you know for the Chargers,
and we haven't really seen that they've actually been able
to put up points, but it just it feels like
(31:38):
the pressure is mounting on Brandon Stali and whether or
not he's going to be able to make it through
the end of the season.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, the pressure's mounting on them Ohio teams in the
AFC North, and you got the Baltimore Ravens playing at
such a high level, and the Pittsburgh Steelers are just creepers.
They're like, they're just straight creepers. And I wonder that
is that creeping going to creep up on the Ravens
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in the North or do the Ravens run away with it?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Now? I think they found they found We'll talk about
it later on, but okay, I think they found something.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I mean, okay, I'm I'm I have some thoughts on
that as well, and I would tend to concur but
I will say I'm interested to hear why you think
they found something versus what I felt like.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
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Come on now, my truck's sound this good? So good man.
And you just read the lyrics, you just get depressed
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At least he was open and honest about you know
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the end of that broadcast, you started hearing a little
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(34:30):
alarm going on and that they were all being evacuated
from the building.
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Uh, everyone in the.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Control room was had to leave, but Scott only left
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Speaker 3 (34:42):
What a guy, Yeah, what a guy. That's Scott Hanson.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Is did he just have to go to the bathroom
so he pulled the fire alarm? Is that what happened?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I mean, maybe that was the fire alarm.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Okay, it's not like it hasn't happened to us before.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Yeah, it did end up being a false alarm, nobody
was hurt.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Falsome arm, sell me along.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, we've got plenty of those.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, I think that he handled a lot better than
we do. We just get annoyed on the air because
god forbid, there's like the chance that it's a.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Real very piercing noise though, you know, and they give
you the hits up generally that they're going to blow
your ears out. Why you're on air all the time.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
The interesting thing is like, was it a test? I mean,
you'd think that on a Sunday it might make some
sense if there's like an emergency test they had to do.
Whoever set it up, it's probably some guy who doesn't
watch football, doesn't like ever think about, Hey, maybe this
would be a bad idea on a Sunday NFL network
because what happens to us Obviously it's in l a
(35:44):
three am to six am Pacific. They're like, oh no,
what's working these hours?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
So yeah, which is a little disrespectful to us, it is.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
But I mean, what are you gonna do about it? Jonas?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, send Leadio sniff it out like we always do.
Yeh out.
Speaker 9 (36:05):
Hey Lee, guys, in case you missed this high before
that Texans Jags game yesterday.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
C J.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Stroud was temporarily locked out of the locker room at
NRG Stadium on his way to the game. Somebody came
to try and help him open the door was also unsuccessful,
but luckily somebody was on the other side.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Let the midt.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
No man man.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I had a special knock for the door that I
went in boom boom, boom, boom boom, and then they
opened the door. That we do. Yeah, that was my
little secret entrance.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
How do you think the door finally got opened? You
think his agent called pulled a couple of strings.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
That would be the one to do it. That would
certainly you do know who his agent. You know who
his agent is though, right, good pool, by the way,
quick on your toes.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
CJ. Straw was fantastic yesterday. I'm a fan and he
threw three picks the week before. He bounced back nicely.
They lost the game, but.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
That's all right.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
He didn't lose fifty try and you know.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
He's next to Jalen Hurts of the m v P race.
I mean, if you think about it too, if there's
ever a year to do it burrows out the rest
of the season out of there. He's got to compete with
Dak and Jalen. But Dak is balling Josh Allen. The's
six and six and they've got to win. If they don't,
he can't be a part of it, and Herbert can't
really be a part of it winning Like Maholmes is
(37:42):
the one that's the other one that's going.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
To be a course.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
But Strout's stats ridiculous in there.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Oh yeah, CJ, go do your thing, CJ.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Guys, In case you missed it.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Raiders are expected to release Marcus Peters after benching him
in the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Ke damn Culture shopf AP is releasing you. That's bad.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
What do you mean by that? Oh my goshm hmm
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