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It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox for the here and
coming up on the show, a little conspiracy theory and
maybe a two conspiracy theories on Aaron Rodgers and this
toe issue. We're also going to talk about Big Ben.
He is actually campaigning for a teammate to get an award.
It's the same guy apparently he took a pay cut
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for in the off season. You're seeing the return of
one coach and as a member of this show, very
very happy. We're also going to take a look at
some criticism of the wide Receiver Corps in Dallas by
somebody known as Jerry Jones. Apparently he does a couple
of radio hits. The Great Petros Papadakis is gonna stop by,
and also another edition of the Good, the Bad, and
the Ugly all of it coming up next here on
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a Wednesday edition of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington. I don't know if you have. Yeah, it's
it's a Wednesday, and you know what that means A well,
you know, I know it was Wednesday. You knew I
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was gonna do it at some point in time, I
was going to do it. Bertie Bery very very very
very Jona Joda jdah Jonas. You knew I was gonna
do with Berto Berto bertole Lee. You know what it is.
Damn right it is. Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Come on, all right, Can I start with a little
bit of a conspiracy thought? I don't know, man, let
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me just go ahead. We get this. Well, I'll just
say this. It doesn't involve Rex Ryan. But I guarantee
Rex Ryan is paying very close attention to this story
and he has been for several weeks. So Aaron Rodgers
updated you know, the media, Um A K. Pat McAfee
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and Brady's brother in law, A J. Hawk because those
are the only people he doesn't interview with. And I
don't blame him, to be honest with you, And he
just tried to, you know, gave everybody an update on
his situation with his toe, and um, you know it's hey,
he's not gonna you know, no chance to have surgery,
not gonna miss any time. Uh, you know, needs fourteen
to twenty one days to heal. But that's not gonna happen,
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So you just kinda gotta deal with it and move forward.
And you know, Dr David Chow was with us last
week and he talked about and kind of gave the
impression that, well, I mean, it's you know, it's it's
a toe injury. But it's I mean, to me, it
seems pretty cut and dry. He's not probably gonna miss
any time, not that big of a deal, etcetera, etcetera.
So why is this thing still going on? Why do
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we have a constant update on Aaron Rodgers toe? Here's
my conspiracy theory. Whoa it depends? I mean, this is
this is all uh, you know, just kind of you know,
working here in the morning. Here's my conspiracy. I think
Aaron Rodgers is jerking everybody around. I think this season,
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through the holiday season, stocking stuff or not, Aaron Rodgers
is looking around going since you, since you I just
cared so much about my health and about my safety,
let me go ahead and play this game with you.
Let me lead you down the path of a toe injury,
an insignificant toe injury, not even a turf toe. For
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my understanding, I heard it was a pinky toe. But
let me go ahead and take you down this road
and we'll see how obsessed you are with my body,
my well being, my health, etcetera, etcetera. And let me
jerk you right into the holidays with a little toe injury.
Shout out to Rex Ryan. How's that talk about stuffing
a stock? I mean maybe it was, you know, a
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toe stuffer. Aren't aren't stockings for toes? I mean, in
theory you're supposed to put your toe inside of the stock.
So I mean, God forbid, we don't take the literal
meaning of what Aaron Rodgers is doing to us during
the holiday season a stocking stuffer. Um, okay, let me
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just say this. Didn't didn't they say for action as
sesamoid bone didn't didn't. We talked about that, like I've
done that. It's uh, it is painful for a period
of time. It does have to be surgically fixed at
some point. I mean, you can live and move around
without it. I haven't gotten mind fixed yet, but it's um,
it's not gonna get really much better, I would say,
I mean, maybe the pain tolerance does or he just adjust,
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But I don't know why. I think he draws attention
to it or there's updates about it. Because he's Aaron Rodgers.
He's he's potentially gonna be the league m v P.
I don't know if he could or not. Maybe it
helps distract away from the COVID stuff, right if you
start to continually focus on his status to play, Like like,
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I don't know about you, but with every TOE update,
I kind of forget that the whole vaccination immunication thing
even happened, And I'm like, oh, well, is he gonna
play this week? Or like what's happening? Just picking out
their body party each week and it's almost like don't
look over here, look this way, look this way. You know.
It's like like a magic trick, and I gotta be
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honest with you. I'm following for it, like I'm looking.
I'm like wait, I'm like what is this to gonna be? Okay?
Like is he can he play? You know, like like
what should I've been on this game? I get? I
get what's happening here. It is your classic uh kind
of distraction technique where you just try to get people
to look and focus on something else and then and
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then all of a sudden, like we've got the memory
of goldfish. Now we just forget what was happening like
forty seconds ago, and and then we just focus on
what's in front of us. So maybe that's more the tactic.
I don't know. I think that he's keeping people updated because,
like everybody said, you know, you are interested in what
you know Aaron Rodgers has going on. He's probably one
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of the most polarizing figures. I'm not giving a conspiracy
theory at this point, so you know it is what
it is. But you know, I do. I do believe
that the idea of Aaron Rodgers giving his health and
medical um rundown on on a I guess an outlet
that isn't connected to going through the team. That's interesting,
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you know, And I think that can we turn the
music off? Please? Please God, please make it go away.
It's so, it's okay, It's okay because I think the
conspiracy theory is already out there, so we don't we
don't have to keep it going. That Does that send
shivers up your spine? No, because I'm not doing the
I'm not doing a conspiracy thing. I think I'm just
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kind of bringing it back to the honest It bothers
you because there were some that they remember, you don't
solve mysteries. There are something like update. They're like, you're
like that guy is still out there, but he's still
out there creeping around somewhere. Well that is true that
I will say that that is true. But in this situation,
I think we kind of uh, you know, am I
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wrong for thinking that Aaron Rodgers is making sure by
doing what he's doing that his play is I'm in control.
Like if you think about it, you we mentioned it
at the top right he's he's using the McAfee show.
So the McAfee show is growing in popularity and probably
large land part. Uh. Nothing to take away from his talent,
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because pat Is is one of the best talents in
the game. But I mean he's growing his show brand
by having the exclusivity of Aaron Rodgers coming on and
giving these these sound bites that go viral every single
time he comes on. So you think about it, Aaron
Rodgers voice goes viral. It's Aaron Rodgers message as well.
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So he's controlling his narrative right now through the outlet
he wants to control. And that's a further if you
really I guess if you delve into it a little deeper.
That's kind of you're looking at the the Green Bay
Packers and you're like, oh, well, you know, players aren't
supposed to discuss their health in the public. That's supposed
to be left up to the medical staff or to
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the Hey, coach, good point, you know, so I think
you got to take a deeper look and say, Aaron Rodgers,
isn't you know, giving us just a stocking stuffer in
terms of what he's got going on health wise. He's
he's still continuing to to give kind of like a
passive aggressive way of saying, I'm in control of what's
going on with my career here in Green Bay. Couldn't
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you just do that? Though? With social media differences? You know, hey, Robertic,
we hit that again. That was a conspiracy. It was
double barrel conspiracy the show. I love it to your
point though, like he could just do with his own
social media. And I think one of the things that
you're able to do when you go on a show
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where you trust the people you're on there. Obviously with
Pat McAfee and aj Is, you know they can help
you with that narrative, right, like they can ask you
the questions so you don't have to stay that yourself
to get you to the points you want to get
to or um, you know you can you can kind
of jokingly talk about it if you just tweet something
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out or send out a video. It kind of comes
off as it is what it is, you know, like
people are gonna necessarily look at or take it as
a joke. But you know when when you when you
listen to Pat McAfee, we listen to AG and those guys,
they do a great job. They're they're hilarious. Um, I
was in Indianapolis. People were talking to me about him
when we're out there at an appearance. But the truth
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is it kind of helps you take off some of
the burden on your shoulders to get that message out
there in whatever way you want, right And I think
maybe that's a little bit of a part of it too,
where players can control their own narrative now, but they
have to they have to receive the brunt of it.
And that's the hard part. If if it was as serious,
or if it was really a serious injury or something
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we should be really concerned about, Like to the VRS point,
he wouldn't be ain't a word about it. Yeah, But
I think that's the brain teaser of it all because
if it were serious, or at the point in time
it could have been serious. If you think about it,
I mean, would he have done Now you gotta take
your mind to thinking would he have done things the
same exact way, not he wouldn't have done it, or
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he couldn't have done it. Would he have done it,
would he have would he have put it on the line,
or would he have uh, disobeyed to fight the rules
of how things are handled? If this were more serious,
you know, And I think that that's what for me,
that's what I'm left thinking. It's like, huh, if it
was more serious, is this? Is this still the same
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power play? You know? Because I mean in the end,
if it's more serious, he wouldn't have been playing, so
that then it's an obvious answer and then he can
give his explanation. But I still think that is just
one of those things where I don't look at it
as you know, anything else outside of or other than
Aaron Rodgers is showing his his dominance as Aaron Rodgers
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by the way he's handling the media this year by
giving the exclusivity of what he's saying and what he's
doing to to Pat McAfee and a J Hawk, And
he's been a very mysterious guy, very aloof a lot
of people couldn't get to know him, and now there's
a lot of people that don't like him, a lot
of people out there that's very similar to you. I mean,
you're pretty mysterious. That's a good point, you know. I'm
glad you brought that up. That's that is a good point.
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As mysterious as Finley though. I mean Ryan Finley. I
saw him when I was walking out yesterday and I
looked at Berto and Lee and I was like, dang,
that's that's yeah, that's how Hey, can you guys walk
me out? I had to do. I had to do
bowl game previews yesterday, all right, which I was I
right about because something like we did a bowl game
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preview that's a month away, Like, no, lie, there's a
bowl game that's being played on January four, okay, and
we're doing a preview on December seven, Like it is.
It makes no sense. It's absolutely assinine, And so I'm
ticked off about it because of a few things. Well,
we're trying to give out betting advice, like, there could
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be a coaching staff changes, there could be kids who
aren't even playing in this game. I'm like, why are
we doing this right now? This can't be actually good
betting advice too. It's my own accountability, like integrity that's
on the line. People could be like, well that Jerko
told me to bet on this thing. I'm like, yeah, dude,
we filmed that four weeks ago. I didn't know the
entire team was gonna be out sick with COVID or something.
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So it's the worst thing ever. But I was remember.
I remember Brian Finley because one of the bull Big
game previews we're talking about Oregon State, and as I
was talking about PC Baylor and the Beeves, I was like, oh,
Finley would be proud. We're actually talking about a Pact
twelve team right now. His organ State Beavers. He loves
those Beavers, he does, so I was giving them a
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little bit of love that. I was like, yeah, but
I'm not picking to cover the spread on this man.
You need any intel on the Beaver, you just go
straight over to Brian Finley. He loves the bees. Man,
He's down with the bees. Yeah, damn and band plus
Petros pap and Aka is going to join us later on.
He'll be you know, he's been. He's called us some
Beeves games before as well too. So I've got to
ask pets Rows about whatever the hell that was at
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USC with Mike Riley. Yes, there was a unbelievable mash
up video that's made its way around that was like
a splicer kind of video between SNL and I guess
the press conference for I don't know if that was
that his press conference? Is that what that was? I think? So, yeah,
it was very bizarre. What's up with that? The whole
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thing is uncomfortable, like and and he seems uncomfortable at
times having to having to go through all this crap.
So his best impression is might be the Mike Bone
impression because I I I actually jumped down that wormhole
where I was like, all right, how accurate is it?
He does his norm child is fantastic, but he does
a tremendous Mike. Yeah. So yeah, we were going to
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get to to that with Petros coming up up later
on in the show. It is too pros and to cume.
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are some rumors about a potential return for one a
former individuals, so we'll get to that here. Coming up
ten minutes from now on FS are. Uh So you
guys remember when Ben Roethlisberger took a pay cut to
get t J Watt paid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was
a big time And so you know, I mean he
can't he can't help himself, big Ben. Uh. He is
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also now lobbying for t J Watt to be the
m v P of the NFL. Here he was yesterday.
He should be recognized more than just a deep I mean,
I don't know who else is the defensive player of
the other than that guy. I'm sure there's other cancel.
I just don't know, but he should absolutely get MVP
m VP votes as well, because that's what kind of
a player he is. Yeah. So, so I don't know
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who else is out there, so I can't I can't
uh compare in contrast what TJ is going versus everyone else.
But he should be considered the best. Yeah, I forget
all those other guys. I mean, I will say this,
he is leading the league in sacks, and I mean
he has missed games and and I think there's something
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to be said about t J watts production. Um, you know,
and and we've looked at Miles Garrett as being you know,
at least a lot of people have said it. I
mean I felt it, and he you know, Myles Garrett
has been looked at largely in part this year as
probably the guy you would be looking at being the
Defensive Player of the Year, but he's actually second to
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t J. Watt. Okay, so too, I would say. While
I think Ben's reasoning is a little bit flimsy, aiden
he makes a valid point. Yeah, I mean, listen, very
good year, and and the only reason he's here is
because Ben took that pay cut. Well, and the reason
why you should win the MVP is because Ben took
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that pay cut. But yes, no, I mean he's look,
he's leaving league in sacks. He is, no doubt one
of the best players in the league. Like, this is
kind of your Aaron Donald conversation. I think you could
make a case every year that Aaron Donald could win
the m v P because he's that good. He's that
dominant of a defensive player statistic he's speaking. He's won
the Defensive Player of the Year award a number of
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times because he's that dominant of a defensive player. Um.
But yeah, as far as m v P goes, I mean,
it really depends on what their team does the rest
of the way. That's that's gonna, enlarge part, determine if
he's got any shot whatsoever of this thing coming to fruition,
because he'll he'll be Defensive Player of the Year at
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this pace moving forward. But it's not gonna matter for
the m v P because we all know the m
v P is gonna go to someone who's on a
winning team. We don't give that award out in the
NFL to just anyone. It has to be someone who's
obviously playing at a high, high level, but has to
be on a winning team. And right now, the Pittsburgh
Steelers find themselves in the thick of it, and they've
got to paddle their way through the rest of the season,
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I think, in order to have a shot at win
the af C North and then potentially doing something the playoffs.
Even th this is a regular season awards. So if
the really the biggest focuses should be on Big Ben.
If he wants to help t. J. Watt win the
m v P, he's gonna start playing, but they're gonna
start winning some football, And it's like that's that's kind
of the the you know, honest to god truth moving
forward is it's gonna take Big Ben playing at his
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m v P level in order to help t J.
Watt even have a shot at winning the m v P.
Right now, as far as the m v P goes.
In the NFL, Tom Brady is the overwhelming favor right now.
Plus one seventy five. That means if you bet a
hundred dollars, you want a hundred and seventy five. But
LaVar and I know that you don't know that, Brady.
That's how they're betty gambling stuff works. So that's how
that works. I never knew you never knew this stuff there.
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I just I like the plus sign. So I was
always like the plus sign. That must have been something good,
some for a hundred bucks. I think you actually mixed
them up. I think you meant to say that, Brady.
That's say LaVar didn't know because I said it looks
like hierd glyphics when I'm looking at well. The best,
the best is when people who are really into gambling,
they'll start the message you because they'll be like when when,
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for example, you see it's plus one seventy five, like, oh,
you know, it's plus a dollar and seventy five cents
and then they start breaking down the mat to make
it even like and you're going to wait, wait a second,
one seventy five is equal to a dollar and seventy
five like, yes it is, but it's just breaking it
down meeting. You're betting a dollar as opposed to Hunter.
So if I give you these lists of names, stop
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me when we get two guys that seriously have no
chance at all, that aren't even that shouldn't even be
considered Tom Brady's thank you very much. I appreciate it.
There he is, folks. There he is the face of
Big newon Kickoff, always supporting his good buddy over there.
We're done five five years five yet replaced? Did you
on a knock show? Which? Right, hey, I say, Lamar,
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I've noticed that you do two separate radio shows, none
of which need your name on it, But apparently Jonas
needs a d one that has his name on it. Well,
you know, I'm glad he gets to do his shameless
plugs and laar. You don't. They say, knock City is
a place throw your knocks up. Yeah, right, throw up
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the X. But here's all right, so so here the
the order of m v p odds right now in
the NFL, Tom Brady overwhelming favor, then Aaron Rodgers six
to one, Josh Allen eight to one, tied with Kyler Murray.
Then we get to Patrick Mahomes, then Matt Stafford, then
Jonathan Taylor, and then we've got Dak Prescott, on and
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on and on. It feels like this is Brady's to lose,
Like if he just if he just continues on and
he can throw a couple more picks and and it's fine.
It feels like because I've gotten missed time, Josh Allen's
you know, uh performance kind of being uh underwhelming, and
especially on a grand stage like it was on Monday Night.
This feels like Tom Brady's gonna run away with this.
Brady feels like it's over at his age. What he
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I can't say that enough, and I didn't know that,
Like no one wants to hear about it, like it's
the m v P. There's other guys who are younger
playing they should be you know, people should be apprecative
of it. But at forty four, him leading the league
in yards, him leading the league in touchdown passes, like
that's what's remarkable. It's like at four and I know,
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like you know, we shouldn't maybe let that weigh in
on it, but I do. I mean, I don't have
a vote. If I did, though, I would be voting
for him hands down. If he continues on at this pace.
They're one of the best teams in the NFL. He's
playing at this high of a level, probably next to
Aaron Rodgers at the quarterback position. Um, you know, Rogers
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missed some games though, so statistically it's gonna be hard
for him to catch back up. I just I look
at it and I'm in all of it. And by
the way they've dealt with injuries or I guess some
some pieces missing at times. Right, gro has been missing
for some time, and Tonio Brown had a chef outing
him for a fake BAX card, so that was an issue.
Is still an issue, I guess in White Services suspension.
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I mean they they've been missing some pieces too, and
he's still be able to find production. So it surely
has been remarkable. If everything stays the same, it's got
to be Tom Brady. I mean you, I think you
have to take every factor in into play. Right, He's
he's doing things that are historical, So I mean, we
didn't even see Joe Montana play at this level when
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he went to Kansas City. So and I mean, to me,
that's that's the next guy. I mean, he was the guy.
Nobody ever thought Joe Montana would ever be eclipsed by
any other players in terms of how he won. But
I mean, Tom Brady has done it and he's still
continuing to do it. I mean, now, I'll tell you
what's even more interesting looking at him having a And
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I know this is is probably petty and it's kind
of whack, but you just got to think about it
because it's kind of you know, it just kind of
works out that way. If Tom Brady were to miss
making it to the Super Bowl or not playing in
the Super Bowl this year, but his his his consolation
prize was he won m VP of the League. But
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but some ways, somehow, New England made it to the
super Bowl. And let's just say for the sake of
saying in the weirdest way where you would think that
man who could ever outdo Tom Brady? And then Mac
Jones gets off to a start where he wins the
Super Bowl a year before Tom Brady would have won
his Super Bowl in his pro career. You still gotta
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look at you still gotta look at New England be like, well,
Tom didn't win the Super Bowl, but he did win
Best Player in the league. The comparasons are always going
to be there. The crazy part is how you've as
of right now, we've got New England in Tampa. It
feels like headed on a collision course for a Super
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Bowl in l Ald like the greatest storyline of all time.
I don't know that we would see as good of
a storyline going into the biggest game in sports then
that what's close? What what even comes close? I don't know.
I don't even care to even go into that conversation.
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I just think the fact that you could get Bill Belichick,
who after a year would be able to build up
in New England Patriots team, that's now you have to
look at him and respect them for what they've done
now seventh straight in the position they're in the a
f C. I mean, Bill Belichicks is up there smiling
seeing yep, we're back. Man, here we are a kid.
You thought you were gonna win back to back at Tampa.
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I'm gonna have to get through us first. I just
I think that is gonna be if it happens, if
it happens, and I'm like keeping my fingers cross, dude,
because that would be the greatest, greatest storyline of all
time if Tampa Bay was scoring off versus New England
in the Super I know they're not the biggest markets.
I'm sure all that l A people out there with
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the Rams to be there because they were the hot
sexy pick or Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs because how
dazzling they are. That's not the storyline though, that ticket
Tampa Bay versus New England, if it could happen, If
it happens, I don't know that you'll find a ticket
for what less than five grand, like even those bleeds
wherever you want to put it in so far, I mean,
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it might be the most expensive ticket we've ever seen,
and and I would I mean most I don't know
what the most watched Super Bowl is, but I would
venture to guess just with the storyline. The big time
names involved, the fact that you've got Brady and Belichick
and people know those names and the way it's all
played out, and as much as we made a big,
big enough deal about those guys even being a part
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of you know, Tom Brady going to Tampa Bay. What's
Belichick going to do without him? I mean, that's that
writes itself. You you legitimately need two weeks to cover
that game. Like most other games, you don't really need
two weeks to cover them. They have the week off
in between and then we get ready for super Bowl
Week and radio Row and all that garbage. But the
two weeks in between, there's gonna be a storyline every
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single day. You know. The interesting thing is it would
be probably the first time in the history of the
Gang that it would feel like a boxing match. Like
going leading up to the game, you could actually position
the coverage of this to be as big a hype
machine as it is when the boxers have to go
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on the road and do their media tours to hype it,
like like that Tyson fury Um Wilder. Yeah, did Deonte
Wilder fight? You know, it's probably especially the second one
more so than anyone else. The second one and the
third one was pretty good, but the second one, that
build up was crazy. But the equipment he brought to
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the ring was heavy. That's why he lost. It was
way too heavy for him. I mean, he wasn't ready,
you know. Um, you know in terms of his conditioning.
But but here the point I'm making is the square
off and the matchup. I mean, you would have to
say it would hit epic proportions in a in a
manner that we've never seen if that were to truly
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happen for them to match up in the in the
super Bowl bar you brought up. So when Joe Montana left,
that was obviously a big time name because he was,
you know, considered the greatest of all time at that
time with all the super Bowl success. So when he
left and he went to Kansas City, was thirty seven
years old. Since Tom Brady has turned thirty seven, he's
won four Super Bowls. So just think about that. Montana's
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entire career was built on Super Bowls four oh and
super Bowls Brady has been to five and won four
since the age Montana was when he went to Kansas City.
Like when this is never gonna be seen again, We're
never going to see this. Avocado ice cream, man, avocado
ice cream. It's all. I've got a sad and tequila,
and nobody can't find either one. I've looked for both.
(27:29):
I can't find tequila or the ice cream. He does
Brady have about tequila? Does Brady does on tequila? I
mean it seems like I've looked for avocado tequila, and
I've looked for avocado ice cream and I can't find.
I don't think they distill avocado. Does he make an
avocado tequila? Uh? Somebody brought it up to me the
(27:50):
other day, and I've been looking for Maybe they played
a cruel joke on LaVar. You ever had jalapeno tequila? Yeah?
So I I know you have it? So what a
you're talking about it? No? First of all, what you do?
I have had. It was a long time ago, but
I had a hallepeen, you know, tequila time ago. I'm
(28:12):
worried about it. Don't you worry about me. I'm cultured
here homeboy, Don't you worry about me. I just finished
Narcos Mexico season three last night. I say, you don't nothing. Yeah,
that's just Can we go speak? Can we go to
my best friend? Very good? It is too pros and
we do. We do have a return for somebody in
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the world of football. We'll get to that here, but
a return to us in our in our arms here Eddie,
bringing in you and I buddies forever and ever. Forget
about LaVar. You know, he's on his way doing his
own things. It is the great Eddie Garcia to go around.
Don't worry at Yes, you're not including me in the
(28:56):
in the traditional open there on on hump Day. I'm
a little bit. I would know why, because you're the
most special edge. All right, you got your own, you
got your own. Yeah, yeah, my bad, bro, that's all right,
thank you, Eddie. I wouldn't forget you like that in
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the beginning, Eddie, I wouldn't do that. I mean, Lavard did,
but I wouldn't do that. Just so you know, I
just want to make that clear. My guy, Eddie Garcia,
big fan, we were all single. He would be that
dude that would actually hate on one of us to
get the girl. Man me. Oh absolutely, oh yeah, be
a hater. He would be. It's war out there, man,
(29:38):
it gets real out here. And he got to be
aware of dudes like Jonas. When you gonna fish refer
to Jonas the Jonas knock Show. Yeah, when I mean,
I'm glad you brought that up ten to noon on
Saturday ten am to do an Eastern time seven and
nine percent. Just had to have a show point that
out there and not invite you on it. Brover, I
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ain't coming on a LaVar. Let me tell you something.
You know how many times I asked him to come
on my overnight show and he refused, absolutely refused. In fact,
let me actually break this down. What were the hours
of your overnight show? What does that matter? No? No, no,
what were the hours? Break that down? Friendship doesn't have hours.
We don't clock in and out of hours. Was it
till three am, three am Pacific a six am Eastern time? Yeah,
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so that was when the show ended. LaVar ended. So
I actually did go on a show a few times,
and he got upset that I wasn't a regular all right,
and mind you, not getting paid for it, just doing
it for the goodness of my heart. Hey, to go
on a Saturday morning, what I would have to be
working during the college football season, but a Saturday morning
(30:43):
to hop on his show when I really didn't need
to u But yeah, he complained about it. Let me
tell you something. I mean, that's jonas though he's a hater. Yeah,
let me tell you something. He's a hater and he's
very egotistic. Generally, haters are very egotistic. I'm not egotistical,
but I can't. I can't. It is Jonas Knox believes
that that if you're going to be friends with him,
(31:03):
then Jonas Knox need better not not charge me for that.
You better do a show. Damn right, you better give
him everything you want. I'll pay you with friendship, man loyalty. Right.
I bought you a beer at Vasso and Dublin, Ohio.
Pretty sure I did. That's a good point. Probably didn't,
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coming up top of next hour a little over ten
minutes from now. Um, somebody high a top and NFL
franchise may have piste off a bunch of his players
with these comments, so we will get to that here
top of next hour. Here on fs ARE, I would
like to us stand corrected on something. Um I made
a Saturday now listen, I mean, but I'm what's that
(32:54):
tend to new An Eastern time, Saturday seven and nine? Yeah?
You know how I know Brady is correct? You do
you realize you have not seen and you know what
you guys come on after me, right like right, after me.
There was not a fun time that you gave any
of the hug about yourself. See, and I was just
(33:15):
waiting to see to make sure that he confirmed what
Brady was saying. She tries to be relatable. It's all
a stick first of all. First of all, LaVar over
there trying to trying to turn us against each other.
Let me let me say this, a LaVar who had
was wind and dyned with one of the greatest setups
in Las Vegas put on the Dynamite Show. I mean
(33:36):
he had guess yet it up. And yet I'm doing
my show from the mean streets a thousand Oaks, California,
the Hate five. I'm risking my my health and well
being to try and do a sports talk radio show
just because build different than well, let's just say I
helped facilitate that to take place. For one that I
worked very hard, um to um that that we're a
(34:00):
year That was actually our year anniversary show, so it's
actually been a build up. That's the first time we've
ever did anything remote. Um, hold on, hold on, last
I checked me and Brady did a remote for our show,
and you know it wasn't quite the setup that that
we uh had anticipated or hope for, but you know what, none. Nonetheless,
(34:23):
we made the best of it. From the printer. We
gotta ethernet chord and ajanitorial closet in the hall. That's
what That's what we got. I do want to just
apologize because we were talking about if Patriots Bucks or
the super Bowl that it would just be a great storyline,
(34:43):
huge ratings. Ryan writes in and says it would be
a ratings dump fire because nobody who hates the Patriots
and Tom Brady, which is a lot, would watch this
horrible matchup. It's a super Bowl, so people will watch,
but the rating will be lower than any game in
the last ten years to lose it all. So there
it is. I apologize. I stand. Where's where's Ryan from?
(35:04):
I don't know, but from this planet, I'm not sure.
It looked like he was tweeting with his feet. He
lives on that on that street called under a Rock.
Heard of it? Yeah, yeah, I know some people from there.
It's a called under the rock over there. Good, all right,
(35:25):
it is time that we get into something we do
every single day on the show called this. Sometimes you
can't get to everything in the world of sports or entertainment.
Good thing. The guys are here to bring you in
case you missed it, And for that we turned it
over to the great lead to Lap to find out
what the hell is going on Lee you guys in
case you missed it. A story that might in intrigue.
(35:47):
Eddie Garcia here, Fresno State Bulldogs are finalizing a deal
to bring back Jeff Tedford as your next football coach. Yeah,
come on, Eddie, rise up, I'm excited. Go down, Eddie.
I thought he has maybe being looked at for organ though.
Oh no, I'm just throwing it out there. He did
use to coach in Oregon. But I know, I'm just
(36:10):
saying I heard once that vacancy came open. There was
then talk that old Phil Knight, you know how, the
old shoe dog, you know he works, He could sweep sweep,
went on in and just still, I mean, who needs
Nike when you got that try tip sandwich? What do
(36:33):
you what do you guys make of? Is it just coincidence?
Jeff Tedford going back to Fresno State, Mario Christo Baal
going back to Miami. You've got Mac Brown, what he's
done at North Carolina are our teams starting to just
go back to the law. Because if that's the case,
I would like a South Carolina to rehire Steve Spurrier.
We can make that happen now. We could turn the
South Carolina program around. No offense to Shane Biemer, but
(36:55):
we need Spurrier back in South Carolina. I guess I'm
trying to understand because what mac Brown had coached at
North Carolina people you're trying to make a relationship, and
just why he's there now I'm wondering, like why why
do they go back to the well, Like is it
just the familiarity, Like this guy knows our program. He
could be the guy to bring us back, because it
feels like that's happening more. Sure, it's different everywhere, but
(37:18):
I mean some guys have have true affinities for the
places that they come from. And Chip Kelly's being rumored
as a potential candidated Oregon. I don't know what that
would mean and how it would get out of the
deal at U c l A. But there's also that
that's being thrown out there that would be interesting because
that's what made him famous. So you know, I don't
I don't, I don't know what the right answer to
(37:39):
that one would be, uh, Jonas. But I will say this,
there is comfort and familiarity, and sometimes when you're comfortable,
you you make better decisions. Now, some people may say
it's the opposite, but sometimes I think that it's just
you know, the familiarity of it is you can make
you can make more sound decisions and people support you.
(37:59):
You know, you're just happy nobody's poaching your community. It's
all about your community. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm I'm happy.
A lot of people are upset about it. A lot
of Penn Staters are upset that that they gave that
deal to Franklin. So but they you know, you don't
know what you don't know, just like the ratings extravaganza.
You know, some people just don't know what they don't know.
(38:20):
So it's all right, yeah, that's all right, all right,
now what else we got it? All right? Okay, you guys.
Oklahoma State Senator Bill Coleman is so upset at Lincoln
Riley that he is requesting the legislation to turn three
inches of the westbound lane on Oklahoma State Highway three
into the Lincoln Riley Highway, calling it the tiniest section
of our most desolate of highways. That'll show him, That'll
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show him good luck cashing those checks. Now, man, that's petty,
it is. But can I just say this, did you
see the reception that Brenton Venable Scott as compared to
what it was when Lincoln Riley land that in southern California?
I mean too completely different? And I know it. You know,
(39:04):
Norman's a college town, but there were thousands of people
there to welcome him. I mean, that is a football program,
that that's where Oklahoma is at. It kind of makes
me start to think, like, and again, I think Lincoln
will be able to turn it around. Said this, but go, hey,
go say it what you think? It may not go
that well. I'm telling you people aren't as interested with
(39:28):
you on that. They're just not They're not as interested.
And and and it's honestly because the California way. What
I'm learning in the l A Way is having new
shiny things. So you have two new shiny organizations with
a new shiny stadium to go to. And it ain't
usc No, it's not those renovations. Yeah, they only go
(39:49):
so far as far I've I've been there since the
renovations still call stand. They had a homeless guy practicing
with them. I mean like that. That should tell you
everything you need to know about USC. They people say
pay so little attention to them. A bomb was fielding
punts at practice. That's everything you need to know about you.
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coming up on the show, a little conspiracy theory and
maybe a two conspiracy theories on Aaron Rodgers and this
toe issue. We're also going to talk about Big Ben.
He is actually campaigning for a teammate to get an award.
It's the same guy apparently he took a pay cut
(00:20):
for in the off season. You're seeing the return of
one coach and as a member of this show, very
very happy. We're also going to take a look at
some criticism of the wide Receiver Corps in Dallas by
somebody known as Jerry Jones. Apparently he does a couple
of radio hits. The Great Petros Papadakis is gonna stop by,
and also another edition of the Good, the Bad, and
the Ugly all of it coming up next here on
(00:42):
a Wednesday edition of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington. I don't know if you have. Yeah, it's
it's a Wednesday, and you know what that means A well,
you know, I know it was Wednesday. You knew I
(01:04):
was gonna do it at some point in time, I
was going to do it. Bertie Bery very very very
very Jona Joda jdah Jonas. You knew I was gonna
do with Berto Berto bertole Lee. You know what it is.
Damn right it is. Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Come on, all right, Can I start with a little
bit of a conspiracy thought? I don't know, man, let
(01:25):
me just go ahead. We get this. Well, I'll just
say this. It doesn't involve Rex Ryan. But I guarantee
Rex Ryan is paying very close attention to this story
and he has been for several weeks. So Aaron Rodgers
updated you know, the media, Um A K. Pat McAfee
(01:46):
and Brady's brother in law, A J. Hawk because those
are the only people he doesn't interview with. And I
don't blame him, to be honest with you, And he
just tried to, you know, gave everybody an update on
his situation with his toe, and um, you know it's hey,
he's not gonna you know, no chance to have surgery,
not gonna miss any time. Uh, you know, needs fourteen
to twenty one days to heal. But that's not gonna happen,
(02:07):
So you just kinda gotta deal with it and move forward.
And you know, Dr David Chow was with us last
week and he talked about and kind of gave the
impression that, well, I mean, it's you know, it's it's
a toe injury. But it's I mean, to me, it
seems pretty cut and dry. He's not probably gonna miss
any time, not that big of a deal, etcetera, etcetera.
So why is this thing still going on? Why do
(02:28):
we have a constant update on Aaron Rodgers toe? Here's
my conspiracy theory. Whoa it depends? I mean, this is
this is all uh, you know, just kind of you know,
working here in the morning. Here's my conspiracy. I think
Aaron Rodgers is jerking everybody around. I think this season,
(02:52):
through the holiday season, stocking stuff or not, Aaron Rodgers
is looking around going since you, since you I just
cared so much about my health and about my safety,
let me go ahead and play this game with you.
Let me lead you down the path of a toe injury,
an insignificant toe injury, not even a turf toe. For
(03:13):
my understanding, I heard it was a pinky toe. But
let me go ahead and take you down this road
and we'll see how obsessed you are with my body,
my well being, my health, etcetera, etcetera. And let me
jerk you right into the holidays with a little toe injury.
Shout out to Rex Ryan. How's that talk about stuffing
a stock? I mean maybe it was, you know, a
(03:38):
toe stuffer. Aren't aren't stockings for toes? I mean, in
theory you're supposed to put your toe inside of the stock.
So I mean, God forbid, we don't take the literal
meaning of what Aaron Rodgers is doing to us during
the holiday season a stocking stuffer. Um, okay, let me
(04:04):
just say this. Didn't didn't they say for action as
sesamoid bone didn't didn't. We talked about that, like I've
done that. It's uh, it is painful for a period
of time. It does have to be surgically fixed at
some point. I mean, you can live and move around
without it. I haven't gotten mind fixed yet, but it's um,
it's not gonna get really much better, I would say,
I mean, maybe the pain tolerance does or he just adjust,
(04:27):
But I don't know why. I think he draws attention
to it or there's updates about it. Because he's Aaron Rodgers.
He's he's potentially gonna be the league m v P.
I don't know if he could or not. Maybe it
helps distract away from the COVID stuff, right if you
start to continually focus on his status to play, Like like,
(04:49):
I don't know about you, but with every TOE update,
I kind of forget that the whole vaccination immunication thing
even happened, And I'm like, oh, well, is he gonna
play this week? Or like what's happening? Just picking out
their body party each week and it's almost like don't
look over here, look this way, look this way. You know.
It's like like a magic trick, and I gotta be
(05:10):
honest with you. I'm following for it, like I'm looking.
I'm like wait, I'm like what is this to gonna be? Okay?
Like is he can he play? You know, like like
what should I've been on this game? I get? I
get what's happening here. It is your classic uh kind
of distraction technique where you just try to get people
to look and focus on something else and then and
(05:31):
then all of a sudden, like we've got the memory
of goldfish. Now we just forget what was happening like
forty seconds ago, and and then we just focus on
what's in front of us. So maybe that's more the tactic.
I don't know. I think that he's keeping people updated because,
like everybody said, you know, you are interested in what
you know Aaron Rodgers has going on. He's probably one
(05:53):
of the most polarizing figures. I'm not giving a conspiracy
theory at this point, so you know it is what
it is. But you know, I do. I do believe
that the idea of Aaron Rodgers giving his health and
medical um rundown on on a I guess an outlet
that isn't connected to going through the team. That's interesting,
(06:17):
you know, And I think that can we turn the
music off? Please? Please God, please make it go away.
It's so, it's okay, It's okay because I think the
conspiracy theory is already out there, so we don't we
don't have to keep it going. That Does that send
shivers up your spine? No, because I'm not doing the
I'm not doing a conspiracy thing. I think I'm just
(06:39):
kind of bringing it back to the honest It bothers
you because there were some that they remember, you don't
solve mysteries. There are something like update. They're like, you're
like that guy is still out there, but he's still
out there creeping around somewhere. Well that is true that
I will say that that is true. But in this situation,
I think we kind of uh, you know, am I
(07:01):
wrong for thinking that Aaron Rodgers is making sure by
doing what he's doing that his play is I'm in control.
Like if you think about it, you we mentioned it
at the top right he's he's using the McAfee show.
So the McAfee show is growing in popularity and probably
large land part. Uh. Nothing to take away from his talent,
(07:25):
because pat Is is one of the best talents in
the game. But I mean he's growing his show brand
by having the exclusivity of Aaron Rodgers coming on and
giving these these sound bites that go viral every single
time he comes on. So you think about it, Aaron
Rodgers voice goes viral. It's Aaron Rodgers message as well.
(07:47):
So he's controlling his narrative right now through the outlet
he wants to control. And that's a further if you
really I guess if you delve into it a little deeper.
That's kind of you're looking at the the Green Bay
Packers and you're like, oh, well, you know, players aren't
supposed to discuss their health in the public. That's supposed
to be left up to the medical staff or to
(08:09):
the Hey, coach, good point, you know, so I think
you got to take a deeper look and say, Aaron Rodgers,
isn't you know, giving us just a stocking stuffer in
terms of what he's got going on health wise. He's
he's still continuing to to give kind of like a
passive aggressive way of saying, I'm in control of what's
going on with my career here in Green Bay. Couldn't
(08:32):
you just do that? Though? With social media differences? You know, hey, Robertic,
we hit that again. That was a conspiracy. It was
double barrel conspiracy the show. I love it to your
point though, like he could just do with his own
social media. And I think one of the things that
you're able to do when you go on a show
(08:53):
where you trust the people you're on there. Obviously with
Pat McAfee and aj Is, you know they can help
you with that narrative, right, like they can ask you
the questions so you don't have to stay that yourself
to get you to the points you want to get
to or um, you know you can you can kind
of jokingly talk about it if you just tweet something
(09:14):
out or send out a video. It kind of comes
off as it is what it is, you know, like
people are gonna necessarily look at or take it as
a joke. But you know when when you when you
listen to Pat McAfee, we listen to AG and those guys,
they do a great job. They're they're hilarious. Um, I
was in Indianapolis. People were talking to me about him
when we're out there at an appearance. But the truth
(09:34):
is it kind of helps you take off some of
the burden on your shoulders to get that message out
there in whatever way you want, right And I think
maybe that's a little bit of a part of it too,
where players can control their own narrative now, but they
have to they have to receive the brunt of it.
And that's the hard part. If if it was as serious,
or if it was really a serious injury or something
(09:55):
we should be really concerned about, Like to the VRS point,
he wouldn't be ain't a word about it. Yeah, But
I think that's the brain teaser of it all because
if it were serious, or at the point in time
it could have been serious. If you think about it,
I mean, would he have done Now you gotta take
your mind to thinking would he have done things the
same exact way, not he wouldn't have done it, or
(10:16):
he couldn't have done it. Would he have done it,
would he have would he have put it on the line,
or would he have uh, disobeyed to fight the rules
of how things are handled? If this were more serious,
you know, And I think that that's what for me,
that's what I'm left thinking. It's like, huh, if it
was more serious, is this? Is this still the same
(10:36):
power play? You know? Because I mean in the end,
if it's more serious, he wouldn't have been playing, so
that then it's an obvious answer and then he can
give his explanation. But I still think that is just
one of those things where I don't look at it
as you know, anything else outside of or other than
Aaron Rodgers is showing his his dominance as Aaron Rodgers
(10:58):
by the way he's handling the media this year by
giving the exclusivity of what he's saying and what he's
doing to to Pat McAfee and a J Hawk, And
he's been a very mysterious guy, very aloof a lot
of people couldn't get to know him, and now there's
a lot of people that don't like him, a lot
of people out there that's very similar to you. I mean,
you're pretty mysterious. That's a good point, you know. I'm
glad you brought that up. That's that is a good point.
(11:19):
As mysterious as Finley though. I mean Ryan Finley. I
saw him when I was walking out yesterday and I
looked at Berto and Lee and I was like, dang,
that's that's yeah, that's how Hey, can you guys walk
me out? I had to do. I had to do
bowl game previews yesterday, all right, which I was I
right about because something like we did a bowl game
(11:42):
preview that's a month away, Like, no, lie, there's a
bowl game that's being played on January four, okay, and
we're doing a preview on December seven, Like it is.
It makes no sense. It's absolutely assinine, And so I'm
ticked off about it because of a few things. Well,
we're trying to give out betting advice, like, there could
(12:03):
be a coaching staff changes, there could be kids who
aren't even playing in this game. I'm like, why are
we doing this right now? This can't be actually good
betting advice too. It's my own accountability, like integrity that's
on the line. People could be like, well that Jerko
told me to bet on this thing. I'm like, yeah, dude,
we filmed that four weeks ago. I didn't know the
entire team was gonna be out sick with COVID or something.
(12:25):
So it's the worst thing ever. But I was remember.
I remember Brian Finley because one of the bull Big
game previews we're talking about Oregon State, and as I
was talking about PC Baylor and the Beeves, I was like, oh,
Finley would be proud. We're actually talking about a Pact
twelve team right now. His organ State Beavers. He loves
those Beavers, he does, so I was giving them a
(12:48):
little bit of love that. I was like, yeah, but
I'm not picking to cover the spread on this man.
You need any intel on the Beaver, you just go
straight over to Brian Finley. He loves the bees. Man,
He's down with the bees. Yeah, damn and band plus
Petros pap and Aka is going to join us later on.
He'll be you know, he's been. He's called us some
Beeves games before as well too. So I've got to
ask pets Rows about whatever the hell that was at
(13:11):
USC with Mike Riley. Yes, there was a unbelievable mash
up video that's made its way around that was like
a splicer kind of video between SNL and I guess
the press conference for I don't know if that was
that his press conference? Is that what that was? I think? So, yeah,
it was very bizarre. What's up with that? The whole
(13:33):
thing is uncomfortable, like and and he seems uncomfortable at
times having to having to go through all this crap.
So his best impression is might be the Mike Bone
impression because I I I actually jumped down that wormhole
where I was like, all right, how accurate is it?
He does his norm child is fantastic, but he does
a tremendous Mike. Yeah. So yeah, we were going to
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we'll call a little over ten minutes from now, somebody
is back. They are back, and if you notice, it's
starting to happen more and more in the world of football.
We will get into all of that here because there
(14:56):
are some rumors about a potential return for one a
former individuals, so we'll get to that here. Coming up
ten minutes from now on FS are. Uh So you
guys remember when Ben Roethlisberger took a pay cut to
get t J Watt paid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was
a big time And so you know, I mean he
can't he can't help himself, big Ben. Uh. He is
(15:17):
also now lobbying for t J Watt to be the
m v P of the NFL. Here he was yesterday.
He should be recognized more than just a deep I mean,
I don't know who else is the defensive player of
the other than that guy. I'm sure there's other cancel.
I just don't know, but he should absolutely get MVP
m VP votes as well, because that's what kind of
a player he is. Yeah. So, so I don't know
(15:38):
who else is out there, so I can't I can't
uh compare in contrast what TJ is going versus everyone else.
But he should be considered the best. Yeah, I forget
all those other guys. I mean, I will say this,
he is leading the league in sacks, and I mean
he has missed games and and I think there's something
(16:00):
to be said about t J watts production. Um, you know,
and and we've looked at Miles Garrett as being you know,
at least a lot of people have said it. I
mean I felt it, and he you know, Myles Garrett
has been looked at largely in part this year as
probably the guy you would be looking at being the
Defensive Player of the Year, but he's actually second to
(16:21):
t J. Watt. Okay, so too, I would say. While
I think Ben's reasoning is a little bit flimsy, aiden
he makes a valid point. Yeah, I mean, listen, very
good year, and and the only reason he's here is
because Ben took that pay cut. Well, and the reason
why you should win the MVP is because Ben took
(16:41):
that pay cut. But yes, no, I mean he's look,
he's leaving league in sacks. He is, no doubt one
of the best players in the league. Like, this is
kind of your Aaron Donald conversation. I think you could
make a case every year that Aaron Donald could win
the m v P because he's that good. He's that
dominant of a defensive player statistic he's speaking. He's won
the Defensive Player of the Year award a number of
(17:02):
times because he's that dominant of a defensive player. Um.
But yeah, as far as m v P goes, I mean,
it really depends on what their team does the rest
of the way. That's that's gonna, enlarge part, determine if
he's got any shot whatsoever of this thing coming to fruition,
because he'll he'll be Defensive Player of the Year at
(17:23):
this pace moving forward. But it's not gonna matter for
the m v P because we all know the m
v P is gonna go to someone who's on a
winning team. We don't give that award out in the
NFL to just anyone. It has to be someone who's
obviously playing at a high, high level, but has to
be on a winning team. And right now, the Pittsburgh
Steelers find themselves in the thick of it, and they've
got to paddle their way through the rest of the season,
(17:44):
I think, in order to have a shot at win
the af C North and then potentially doing something the playoffs.
Even th this is a regular season awards. So if
the really the biggest focuses should be on Big Ben.
If he wants to help t. J. Watt win the
m v P, he's gonna start playing, but they're gonna
start winning some football, And it's like that's that's kind
of the the you know, honest to god truth moving
forward is it's gonna take Big Ben playing at his
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m v P level in order to help t J.
Watt even have a shot at winning the m v P.
Right now, as far as the m v P goes.
In the NFL, Tom Brady is the overwhelming favor right now.
Plus one seventy five. That means if you bet a
hundred dollars, you want a hundred and seventy five. But
LaVar and I know that you don't know that, Brady.
That's how they're betty gambling stuff works. So that's how
that works. I never knew you never knew this stuff there.
(18:30):
I just I like the plus sign. So I was
always like the plus sign. That must have been something good,
some for a hundred bucks. I think you actually mixed
them up. I think you meant to say that, Brady.
That's say LaVar didn't know because I said it looks
like hierd glyphics when I'm looking at well. The best,
the best is when people who are really into gambling,
they'll start the message you because they'll be like when when,
(18:53):
for example, you see it's plus one seventy five, like, oh,
you know, it's plus a dollar and seventy five cents
and then they start breaking down the mat to make
it even like and you're going to wait, wait a second,
one seventy five is equal to a dollar and seventy
five like, yes it is, but it's just breaking it
down meeting. You're betting a dollar as opposed to Hunter.
So if I give you these lists of names, stop
(19:13):
me when we get two guys that seriously have no
chance at all, that aren't even that shouldn't even be
considered Tom Brady's thank you very much. I appreciate it.
There he is, folks. There he is the face of
Big newon Kickoff, always supporting his good buddy over there.
We're done five five years five yet replaced? Did you
on a knock show? Which? Right, hey, I say, Lamar,
(19:38):
I've noticed that you do two separate radio shows, none
of which need your name on it, But apparently Jonas
needs a d one that has his name on it. Well,
you know, I'm glad he gets to do his shameless
plugs and laar. You don't. They say, knock City is
a place throw your knocks up. Yeah, right, throw up
(19:59):
the X. But here's all right, so so here the
the order of m v p odds right now in
the NFL, Tom Brady overwhelming favor, then Aaron Rodgers six
to one, Josh Allen eight to one, tied with Kyler Murray.
Then we get to Patrick Mahomes, then Matt Stafford, then
Jonathan Taylor, and then we've got Dak Prescott, on and
(20:19):
on and on. It feels like this is Brady's to lose,
Like if he just if he just continues on and
he can throw a couple more picks and and it's fine.
It feels like because I've gotten missed time, Josh Allen's
you know, uh performance kind of being uh underwhelming, and
especially on a grand stage like it was on Monday Night.
This feels like Tom Brady's gonna run away with this.
Brady feels like it's over at his age. What he
(20:43):
I can't say that enough, and I didn't know that,
Like no one wants to hear about it, like it's
the m v P. There's other guys who are younger
playing they should be you know, people should be apprecative
of it. But at forty four, him leading the league
in yards, him leading the league in touchdown passes, like
that's what's remarkable. It's like at four and I know,
(21:03):
like you know, we shouldn't maybe let that weigh in
on it, but I do. I mean, I don't have
a vote. If I did, though, I would be voting
for him hands down. If he continues on at this pace.
They're one of the best teams in the NFL. He's
playing at this high of a level, probably next to
Aaron Rodgers at the quarterback position. Um, you know, Rogers
(21:24):
missed some games though, so statistically it's gonna be hard
for him to catch back up. I just I look
at it and I'm in all of it. And by
the way they've dealt with injuries or I guess some
some pieces missing at times. Right, gro has been missing
for some time, and Tonio Brown had a chef outing
him for a fake BAX card, so that was an issue.
Is still an issue, I guess in White Services suspension.
(21:45):
I mean they they've been missing some pieces too, and
he's still be able to find production. So it surely
has been remarkable. If everything stays the same, it's got
to be Tom Brady. I mean you, I think you
have to take every factor in into play. Right, He's
he's doing things that are historical, So I mean, we
didn't even see Joe Montana play at this level when
(22:06):
he went to Kansas City. So and I mean, to me,
that's that's the next guy. I mean, he was the guy.
Nobody ever thought Joe Montana would ever be eclipsed by
any other players in terms of how he won. But
I mean, Tom Brady has done it and he's still
continuing to do it. I mean, now, I'll tell you
what's even more interesting looking at him having a And
(22:28):
I know this is is probably petty and it's kind
of whack, but you just got to think about it
because it's kind of you know, it just kind of
works out that way. If Tom Brady were to miss
making it to the Super Bowl or not playing in
the Super Bowl this year, but his his his consolation
prize was he won m VP of the League. But
(22:50):
but some ways, somehow, New England made it to the
super Bowl. And let's just say for the sake of
saying in the weirdest way where you would think that
man who could ever outdo Tom Brady? And then Mac
Jones gets off to a start where he wins the
Super Bowl a year before Tom Brady would have won
his Super Bowl in his pro career. You still gotta
(23:11):
look at you still gotta look at New England be like, well,
Tom didn't win the Super Bowl, but he did win
Best Player in the league. The comparasons are always going
to be there. The crazy part is how you've as
of right now, we've got New England in Tampa. It
feels like headed on a collision course for a Super
(23:34):
Bowl in l Ald like the greatest storyline of all time.
I don't know that we would see as good of
a storyline going into the biggest game in sports then
that what's close? What what even comes close? I don't know.
I don't even care to even go into that conversation.
(23:54):
I just think the fact that you could get Bill Belichick,
who after a year would be able to build up
in New England Patriots team, that's now you have to
look at him and respect them for what they've done
now seventh straight in the position they're in the a
f C. I mean, Bill Belichicks is up there smiling
seeing yep, we're back. Man, here we are a kid.
You thought you were gonna win back to back at Tampa.
(24:15):
I'm gonna have to get through us first. I just
I think that is gonna be if it happens, if
it happens, and I'm like keeping my fingers cross, dude,
because that would be the greatest, greatest storyline of all
time if Tampa Bay was scoring off versus New England
in the Super I know they're not the biggest markets.
I'm sure all that l A people out there with
(24:36):
the Rams to be there because they were the hot
sexy pick or Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs because how
dazzling they are. That's not the storyline though, that ticket
Tampa Bay versus New England, if it could happen, If
it happens, I don't know that you'll find a ticket
for what less than five grand, like even those bleeds
wherever you want to put it in so far, I mean,
(24:57):
it might be the most expensive ticket we've ever seen,
and and I would I mean most I don't know
what the most watched Super Bowl is, but I would
venture to guess just with the storyline. The big time
names involved, the fact that you've got Brady and Belichick
and people know those names and the way it's all
played out, and as much as we made a big,
big enough deal about those guys even being a part
(25:19):
of you know, Tom Brady going to Tampa Bay. What's
Belichick going to do without him? I mean, that's that
writes itself. You you legitimately need two weeks to cover
that game. Like most other games, you don't really need
two weeks to cover them. They have the week off
in between and then we get ready for super Bowl
Week and radio Row and all that garbage. But the
two weeks in between, there's gonna be a storyline every
(25:40):
single day. You know. The interesting thing is it would
be probably the first time in the history of the
Gang that it would feel like a boxing match. Like
going leading up to the game, you could actually position
the coverage of this to be as big a hype
machine as it is when the boxers have to go
(26:02):
on the road and do their media tours to hype it,
like like that Tyson fury Um Wilder. Yeah, did Deonte
Wilder fight? You know, it's probably especially the second one
more so than anyone else. The second one and the
third one was pretty good, but the second one, that
build up was crazy. But the equipment he brought to
(26:23):
the ring was heavy. That's why he lost. It was
way too heavy for him. I mean, he wasn't ready,
you know. Um, you know in terms of his conditioning.
But but here the point I'm making is the square
off and the matchup. I mean, you would have to
say it would hit epic proportions in a in a
manner that we've never seen if that were to truly
(26:46):
happen for them to match up in the in the
super Bowl bar you brought up. So when Joe Montana left,
that was obviously a big time name because he was,
you know, considered the greatest of all time at that
time with all the super Bowl success. So when he
left and he went to Kansas City, was thirty seven
years old. Since Tom Brady has turned thirty seven, he's
won four Super Bowls. So just think about that. Montana's
(27:08):
entire career was built on Super Bowls four oh and
super Bowls Brady has been to five and won four
since the age Montana was when he went to Kansas City.
Like when this is never gonna be seen again, We're
never going to see this. Avocado ice cream, man, avocado
ice cream. It's all. I've got a sad and tequila,
and nobody can't find either one. I've looked for both.
(27:29):
I can't find tequila or the ice cream. He does
Brady have about tequila? Does Brady does on tequila? I
mean it seems like I've looked for avocado tequila, and
I've looked for avocado ice cream and I can't find.
I don't think they distill avocado. Does he make an
avocado tequila? Uh? Somebody brought it up to me the
(27:50):
other day, and I've been looking for Maybe they played
a cruel joke on LaVar. You ever had jalapeno tequila? Yeah?
So I I know you have it? So what a
you're talking about it? No? First of all, what you do?
I have had. It was a long time ago, but
I had a hallepeen, you know, tequila time ago. I'm
(28:12):
worried about it. Don't you worry about me. I'm cultured
here homeboy, Don't you worry about me. I just finished
Narcos Mexico season three last night. I say, you don't nothing. Yeah,
that's just Can we go speak? Can we go to
my best friend? Very good? It is too pros and
we do. We do have a return for somebody in
(28:35):
the world of football. We'll get to that here, but
a return to us in our in our arms here Eddie,
bringing in you and I buddies forever and ever. Forget
about LaVar. You know, he's on his way doing his
own things. It is the great Eddie Garcia to go around.
Don't worry at Yes, you're not including me in the
(28:56):
in the traditional open there on on hump Day. I'm
a little bit. I would know why, because you're the
most special edge. All right, you got your own, you
got your own. Yeah, yeah, my bad, bro, that's all right,
thank you, Eddie. I wouldn't forget you like that in
(29:17):
the beginning, Eddie, I wouldn't do that. I mean, Lavard did,
but I wouldn't do that. Just so you know, I
just want to make that clear. My guy, Eddie Garcia,
big fan, we were all single. He would be that
dude that would actually hate on one of us to
get the girl. Man me. Oh absolutely, oh yeah, be
a hater. He would be. It's war out there, man,
(29:38):
it gets real out here. And he got to be
aware of dudes like Jonas. When you gonna fish refer
to Jonas the Jonas knock Show. Yeah, when I mean,
I'm glad you brought that up ten to noon on
Saturday ten am to do an Eastern time seven and
nine percent. Just had to have a show point that
out there and not invite you on it. Brover, I
(29:58):
ain't coming on a LaVar. Let me tell you something.
You know how many times I asked him to come
on my overnight show and he refused, absolutely refused. In fact,
let me actually break this down. What were the hours
of your overnight show? What does that matter? No? No, no,
what were the hours? Break that down? Friendship doesn't have hours.
We don't clock in and out of hours. Was it
till three am, three am Pacific a six am Eastern time? Yeah,
(30:22):
so that was when the show ended. LaVar ended. So
I actually did go on a show a few times,
and he got upset that I wasn't a regular all right,
and mind you, not getting paid for it, just doing
it for the goodness of my heart. Hey, to go
on a Saturday morning, what I would have to be
working during the college football season, but a Saturday morning
(30:43):
to hop on his show when I really didn't need
to u But yeah, he complained about it. Let me
tell you something. I mean, that's jonas though he's a hater. Yeah,
let me tell you something. He's a hater and he's
very egotistic. Generally, haters are very egotistic. I'm not egotistical,
but I can't. I can't. It is Jonas Knox believes
that that if you're going to be friends with him,
(31:03):
then Jonas Knox need better not not charge me for that.
You better do a show. Damn right, you better give
him everything you want. I'll pay you with friendship, man loyalty. Right.
I bought you a beer at Vasso and Dublin, Ohio.
Pretty sure I did. That's a good point. Probably didn't,
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coming up top of next hour a little over ten
minutes from now. Um, somebody high a top and NFL
franchise may have piste off a bunch of his players
with these comments, so we will get to that here
top of next hour. Here on fs ARE, I would
like to us stand corrected on something. Um I made
a Saturday now listen, I mean, but I'm what's that
(32:54):
tend to new An Eastern time, Saturday seven and nine? Yeah?
You know how I know Brady is correct? You do
you realize you have not seen and you know what
you guys come on after me, right like right, after me.
There was not a fun time that you gave any
of the hug about yourself. See, and I was just
(33:15):
waiting to see to make sure that he confirmed what
Brady was saying. She tries to be relatable. It's all
a stick first of all. First of all, LaVar over
there trying to trying to turn us against each other.
Let me let me say this, a LaVar who had
was wind and dyned with one of the greatest setups
in Las Vegas put on the Dynamite Show. I mean
(33:36):
he had guess yet it up. And yet I'm doing
my show from the mean streets a thousand Oaks, California,
the Hate five. I'm risking my my health and well
being to try and do a sports talk radio show
just because build different than well, let's just say I
helped facilitate that to take place. For one that I
worked very hard, um to um that that we're a
(34:00):
year That was actually our year anniversary show, so it's
actually been a build up. That's the first time we've
ever did anything remote. Um, hold on, hold on, last
I checked me and Brady did a remote for our show,
and you know it wasn't quite the setup that that
we uh had anticipated or hope for, but you know what, none. Nonetheless,
(34:23):
we made the best of it. From the printer. We
gotta ethernet chord and ajanitorial closet in the hall. That's
what That's what we got. I do want to just
apologize because we were talking about if Patriots Bucks or
the super Bowl that it would just be a great storyline,
(34:43):
huge ratings. Ryan writes in and says it would be
a ratings dump fire because nobody who hates the Patriots
and Tom Brady, which is a lot, would watch this
horrible matchup. It's a super Bowl, so people will watch,
but the rating will be lower than any game in
the last ten years to lose it all. So there
it is. I apologize. I stand. Where's where's Ryan from?
(35:04):
I don't know, but from this planet, I'm not sure.
It looked like he was tweeting with his feet. He
lives on that on that street called under a Rock.
Heard of it? Yeah, yeah, I know some people from there.
It's a called under the rock over there. Good, all right,
(35:25):
it is time that we get into something we do
every single day on the show called this. Sometimes you
can't get to everything in the world of sports or entertainment.
Good thing. The guys are here to bring you in
case you missed it, And for that we turned it
over to the great lead to Lap to find out
what the hell is going on Lee you guys in
case you missed it. A story that might in intrigue.
(35:47):
Eddie Garcia here, Fresno State Bulldogs are finalizing a deal
to bring back Jeff Tedford as your next football coach. Yeah,
come on, Eddie, rise up, I'm excited. Go down, Eddie.
I thought he has maybe being looked at for organ though.
Oh no, I'm just throwing it out there. He did
use to coach in Oregon. But I know, I'm just
(36:10):
saying I heard once that vacancy came open. There was
then talk that old Phil Knight, you know how, the
old shoe dog, you know he works, He could sweep sweep,
went on in and just still, I mean, who needs
Nike when you got that try tip sandwich? What do
(36:33):
you what do you guys make of? Is it just coincidence?
Jeff Tedford going back to Fresno State, Mario Christo Baal
going back to Miami. You've got Mac Brown, what he's
done at North Carolina are our teams starting to just
go back to the law. Because if that's the case,
I would like a South Carolina to rehire Steve Spurrier.
We can make that happen now. We could turn the
South Carolina program around. No offense to Shane Biemer, but
(36:55):
we need Spurrier back in South Carolina. I guess I'm
trying to understand because what mac Brown had coached at
North Carolina people you're trying to make a relationship, and
just why he's there now I'm wondering, like why why
do they go back to the well, Like is it
just the familiarity, Like this guy knows our program. He
could be the guy to bring us back, because it
feels like that's happening more. Sure, it's different everywhere, but
(37:18):
I mean some guys have have true affinities for the
places that they come from. And Chip Kelly's being rumored
as a potential candidated Oregon. I don't know what that
would mean and how it would get out of the
deal at U c l A. But there's also that
that's being thrown out there that would be interesting because
that's what made him famous. So you know, I don't
I don't, I don't know what the right answer to
(37:39):
that one would be, uh, Jonas. But I will say this,
there is comfort and familiarity, and sometimes when you're comfortable,
you you make better decisions. Now, some people may say
it's the opposite, but sometimes I think that it's just
you know, the familiarity of it is you can make
you can make more sound decisions and people support you.
(37:59):
You know, you're just happy nobody's poaching your community. It's
all about your community. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm I'm happy.
A lot of people are upset about it. A lot
of Penn Staters are upset that that they gave that
deal to Franklin. So but they you know, you don't
know what you don't know, just like the ratings extravaganza.
You know, some people just don't know what they don't know.
(38:20):
So it's all right, yeah, that's all right, all right,
now what else we got it? All right? Okay, you guys.
Oklahoma State Senator Bill Coleman is so upset at Lincoln
Riley that he is requesting the legislation to turn three
inches of the westbound lane on Oklahoma State Highway three
into the Lincoln Riley Highway, calling it the tiniest section
of our most desolate of highways. That'll show him, That'll
(38:44):
show him good luck cashing those checks. Now, man, that's petty,
it is. But can I just say this, did you
see the reception that Brenton Venable Scott as compared to
what it was when Lincoln Riley land that in southern California?
I mean too completely different? And I know it. You know,
(39:04):
Norman's a college town, but there were thousands of people
there to welcome him. I mean, that is a football program,
that that's where Oklahoma is at. It kind of makes
me start to think, like, and again, I think Lincoln
will be able to turn it around. Said this, but go, hey,
go say it what you think? It may not go
that well. I'm telling you people aren't as interested with
(39:28):
you on that. They're just not They're not as interested.
And and and it's honestly because the California way. What
I'm learning in the l A Way is having new
shiny things. So you have two new shiny organizations with
a new shiny stadium to go to. And it ain't
usc No, it's not those renovations. Yeah, they only go
(39:49):
so far as far I've I've been there since the
renovations still call stand. They had a homeless guy practicing
with them. I mean like that. That should tell you
everything you need to know about USC. They people say
pay so little attention to them. A bomb was fielding
punts at practice. That's everything you need to know about you.
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