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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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in Dallas over some lip reading accusations. We've got some
concern in Cleveland over bad quarterback play. And we've got
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Speaker 1 (00:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:25):
Hi, probably better than Derek Carr.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Geez, dang, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Saying, damn obleak is intact over here. Yeah, you guys
ever had an oblique injury before?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
No, it's like a baseball injury, right.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well, not really, it could be any injury happened in football.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, I was gonna say it.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
And by the way, the older you get as a dad, buddy,
trust it, you're gonna be like, well, what's that like?
You're gonna have all sorts of injuries you never thought
you were like ever gonna encounter on your life before.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Because when they say when a guy gets it the
oblique in baseball, like, it's a kind of a tedious
injury because you can't swing, you can't really like move.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's not a baseball injury. It's it's it can be
a golf injury. Anytime you rotate. You rotate a lot
of sports. I'm gonna take that Jonas Dad injury for
you soon as soon as you realize that that's what
that's what happens.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Man, you get older, start having injuries like this.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, no, I'm gonna try and steer clear of that.
I mean, I was we were ripping it yesterday at
the park.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
What do you mean, I mean what I.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Threw a twelve six curveball to my son with a
whiffle ball that he still got hold of. I mean
he can. He can just pipe it with the best
of them.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
So the best of.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Them, So base baseball or not, that was not a
not a great performance by Derek carran company. And I'm
watching Kansas City and it's like they've got, you know,
multiple tight ends they're using, they're using wide receivers that
you know other teams probably didn't want. They're using a
running back that was out of work, and yet they're
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still just winning games and figuring out ways to put
up w's during the course of the season. And it
just reminds me of the Patriots. It's like, Okay, here
we go. It's just they're just going to be a
team that's going to be in contention very super Bowl
for the next decade. And every single time I pick
against him was like, no, No, this can't be the
year they just go out and rack up five straight
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wins in a row to start off a year.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So that's the similarities are pretty interesting when you bring
it up that way. The difference is you've got an
offensive mind and head coach an era that plays to
the offense's advantage.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I think they're taking full advantage of that.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You've got a quarterback who similar to Britton ways but
has his own style and stamp of it. You know,
the way he throws the football, the way he gets
outside the pocket, creates plays a tight end who's a
future Hall of Famer, similar to what they had in Gronk,
but now in Kelsey and also very different. I mean
he's not a you know, behemoth of a human being.
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He's smaller, able to kind of do more. He's kind
of known now for this lateral like you saw last
night to Kareem Hunt to help get the first down.
Like it's there's similarities, but they're unique in their own
way as to how they go about doing it, and
it's you know, it's it's interesting that Spags has been
there the whole time as their defensive coordinator. Maybe the
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perfect fit because as you kind of look at all this,
they've moved through offensive coordinators that's never impacted them. They've
moved through some players, and they're on the roster that's
never impacted them. It's very similar to New England in
that way. The one concern I have with this team
is if they moved on from Steve Spagnola, you know,
what does this defense look like? Because the defense was
able to do enough last night to styn me any
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sort of rushing attack, and Derek Carr struggled at times.
I mean, the first interception was like, what the heck
was that? But outside of that, there's a couple of
big plays and that was kind of it. And the
defense has been the one, to me, consistent piece that
they've had despite a lot of the you know, trying
to figure out who's gonna be that number one wide receiver,
deal with some of the injuries they've had on the
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offensive side of.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
The ball, they pull it together and I think it's
the biggest comparison I believe you can make with the
New England Patriots of of old, the dominant ones, the
Super Bowl ones, and this Kansas City team is the culture.
You know, we've heard, We've heard so many times throughout
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the course in time of the success of the Patriots
all all these guys that came and went different different
coaches and coordinators that came and gone. Now listen that
it was all the coordinators in New England and they
were still able to replace, you know, the Romeo Cornells
and you know the different guys that that moved on.
But with that being said, when you look at how
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this Kansas City team plays in comparison to a dominant
team like that that old New England Patriots group, it's
the culture. I think that that's the biggest takeaway I
get when I watch this team play. You have a
quarterback that is the catalysts of the team, undisputed. No
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one would would dare challenge the fact that Patrick Mahomes
is one hundred percent the example, the motivator. He's the
guy that they all believe in and he wears that
role very well. You have a coach that all the
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players they believe in, they buy into, they subscribe to
his way, and now you have a rest of everyone
who steps in understanding what that expectation is, what that
accountability is, and knowing that if you're going to achieve
at a high level, there has to be you know,
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Andy Reid said it in his interview. These guys just
don't They don't flinch, They don't let the size of
the moment, they don't let what's taking place dictate to
them the outcome. They just do what they need to
do in those moments. That's culture and and that's understated
in sports so many times when you see a team
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that that knows how to handle handle themselves, they you know,
guy goes down, another guy steps up. I mean, Kareem
Hunt gets back in there and and and it's like
he never left, you know. And this is not a
bad New New Orleans team. I actually think that they're
a very very competitive team. This was a quality win.
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And I think that that culture that that Kansas City
is playing with right now gives a level of confidence
where they just know they're going to get the job done.
Might not be the prettiest. Here are all these you know,
different analysts and hosts talking about you know this, this
isn't the Kansas City Chiefs that we know this isn't
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it's boring. It's boring, this that and the other. It's
not Patrick Mahomes going downfield, it's not the big plays
and this, that and the other. It's a team that
takes what you give them and they are going to
eventually win the game. I think that people should learn
to accept that now because it's been enough games where
that's evident.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I think we've run the may We've kind of run
its course. The whole Taylor Swift thing, by the way,
Like Troy Aikman's even getting fed up with it, Like
you can tell they're just kind of tired of the
whole thing. If we could just get back to our
regular schedule programming of just focus on the Chiefs and
Travis Kelsey being a great player.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I think it would be better for everybody involved.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like I think, here's a clip of Belichick on the
Manning Cast. They showed her and he was just like, Oh.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
How great was Belichick on the Manning Cast last night?
Like this singer after singer after the singer, I mean,
ripping Peyton and then the for pumping in fake crowd.
He was saying like, yeah, we knew it was fake
when we can hear the CD's skipping back in the
day back.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It was fantastic, man.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So so the Kansas City Chiefs get it done. New
Orleans started off the year two and zero. They've now
lost three straight. Derek Carr is a little banged up.
Do you want to hear Derek Carr who although playing
and by the way, Jay Kyner went to Fresno State
as well too, correct, Yeah they did. So is that
just Fresno State jumped in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Dropped the seed there at the end of the game.
I thought maybe that a shot getting back into it.
One thing quickly before you transition. Yeah, the play to
Juju Smith Schuster on the goal line. I do feel
like that's a play that like doesn't happen to Kansas City.
It usually happens to other teams against Kansas City or
you know. It kind of almost reminded me a little
bit of like the Seattle's New England Super Bowl, where
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it's New England who was on the better side of that.
It was just odd, you know, seeing how Juju Smith
Schuster literally should be catching a touchdown pass instead volleyball
sets it to Kayln Saunders. I mean the wide receiver
conundrum will become an issue at some point this season
if they don't get Hollywood Brown back and into the mix.
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Xavier Worthy's won his part as a rookie, but the
rest of the pieces, outside of what they have in
Kelsey a tight end and some of the other tight ends,
they just it doesn't feel like they can sustain this
way forever, and especially when plays like that happen, when
you literally take seven points off the board going into
the fourth quarter and you felt like the game was
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basically over at that point. But seeing that player going, ah,
maybe they don't have all the luck in the world,
or the ball doesn't always bounce their way. Because every
single person will try to tell you the league gives
them all the calls, the ball always bounces their way.
That is not always the truth. And that was a
prime example of that last night.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So what's the They were trying to explain it, but
I was confused. The Kaylin Sonder is his brother.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
His brother, Kalyn Saunder's brother is a backup dancer for
Taylor Swift, which we all could have not used that
piece of information. I just went on living our lives.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But like right after they discussed it, the guy comes
up with the interception in return scripted. No, I'm just
it worked out well. But yeah, I just thought to myself,
what is her him being a backup dancer to do
with anything. I have no idea. It just kind of
all tied together. It was just a happy accident.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
For Joe Buck accident.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, that's all. It was a nice little happy accident.
And Xavier Worthy hands the football to his mom on
her birthday afterwards, Uh, he looks just like her, by
the way, like literally identical to her, which is, you know,
good for everybody involved. But Derek Carr was discussing his
injury afterwards, let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Not good, but you know, we'll get we'll get a
amorrow and all that kind of stuff tomorrow and figure
it out. But for me not to be out there
with my guys, no matter of situation, it's it takes something.
So it wasn't like a pain thing, you know. It
wasn't like dealing with pain, like can you deal with
the pain then you can go. It's like literally, I
just I just can't do what I want to do.
And so obviously it's fresh and just happened. But you know,
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I mean, I'm gonna do anything I can to make
sure i'm there on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
All right, Oh right, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I mean, that's kind of scary for SADES fans though.
I mean, in all reality, if if you look at
this team without Derek Carr, it's more Taysom Hill, It's
it's shake Hanner out a quarterback. It's there's some questions
I think as to what this team's going to be.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, yeah, look at the Raiders of that Derek Carr.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I mean, this is my nightmare.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
No, it could be.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It could be a real problem for them.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
It's not necessarily because of him, though I would say that.
I mean, he is a good quarterback. I don't think
there's you know, I'm not trying to take away from him,
but maybe the Raiders problem might be a little bit bigger.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Do have the Bucks next the divisional game?
Speaker 5 (13:09):
That's wold Man. I was trying to focus in on
what we're talking about while reading what you said that wild.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Man, Yeah, that's wow.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
There's bigger issues out here in the world, I'll tell
you that than the ones we're discussing. God.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, I mean hurting your applice one thing.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, having your mayor get decapitated, that's a whole Not
after taking office is a little different.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yeah, I mean talking about sending a message.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So Mexico mayor's decapitated head found on his car six
days after taking office.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Exactly what exactly are you sending that to?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't know about you, guys, but I'll be taking
a long way home today.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
So that's okay. I understand. I understand your terms. Now,
see we could do it your way, ever that way
is okay. Yes, hey, man, I just don't want to
be next.
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I mean, I don't know why we got to do this,
but enough is enough, So God forbid. Ce Dee Lamb
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and Dak Prescott have a little bit of a dust
up on the sideline where Ceedee Lamb is a kind
of run in his mouth and John at Dak Prescott
during a game on Sunday night. And for some reason,
I think you're.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Missing the point of it, though it's not so much
there was.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
A dust up or an argument, discussion, whatever, it's what
did he say That is what went viral, and that
is what everyone's been trying to figure out since that
game ended, in fact a win, by the way, which
makes all this, you know, kind of go away, but
everyone's still trying to figure out what exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I could see thee lamb say to Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Now, what's your guess based on us?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Or people were saying, like he said, throw it up
or jump jump or something like that, jump.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Jump ball for jump ball or something like that.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Now someone else said that he said, like, I'm basically
saying it was a subpar throw, you know, dead ass?
Is how like the expression, which when I read the lips,
it sounded more like that than it looked like him
sam jump ball for jump ball. It looked like he
said sub par throw, dead ass like which again basically
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saying it was a poor throw and like for real,
like you need to get your crap together. And the
way Dak didn't respond to it at all made me
think more of it was more negative in nature like
that than it was him saying, hey, jump ball, throw
a jump ball.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
If that's the case, then that's just a wide receiver
talking to you about what he's like looking for.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
But clearly there's something else going on there.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I mean, we saw, you know, Chris Jones pop off
last night. I mean, guys pop off. Sometimes it matters
to some what.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
A pop Chris.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
All right, Yeah, I think it matters sometimes when when
you see a guy have an emotional moment on on
the field or on the sideline. It doesn't always have
to be that there's trouble or there's oh my gosh,
they're falling apart or anything like that. Guys be caring
one thing about ceedee lamb. He cares about being good.
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He cares about the way he looks. He cares about
the way he plays. I don't have a problem with
a dude that gives you results and they show passion
and they show moments. Now some would say, ah, he
needs to show more control or you know, be aware
of your surroundings because things like this can happen. You
play for Dallas, these things can happen. But at the
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end of the day, he's playing the game, he's in
the moment, and whatever it is that he said, whatever happened,
it happened. You could tell that he was frustrated.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
What do you think he said?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
I don't. I tried, Like I said, I tried to
read his lips because I went for the bait, just
like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
What do you think he said?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I got tired of looking at his lips trying to
figure it out.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You don't have a guess.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I doubt out, no doubt out. I couldn't get it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I could.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I couldn't get anything egregious, Like I know what m
effort looks like coming out of somebody's facial expressions. I
know what I know what like the B word, Like
I say bitch all the time, so I use it
right there, and so it's not in bad You don't
think you don't.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Think he said, dead ass?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I don't know. I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell, That's
all I'm saying. I looked a few times, and then
I started feeling undoable about trying to read his dude's lips.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Well, people were like, hey man, City Lamb would say
something like subpar.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I'm like, he wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I think what Twitter guy knows what Ceedee Lamb would
say and wouldn't say like, okay, palell, like you have
no idea what players say in the locker room, on
the sideline or any of that. But we've got an
expert on Twitter who's going to say that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
My best guess would be jump ball, dead ass. I
think you're right.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I mean, and for what I think he said subpar
dead ass like subpar threat.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And by the way, what are they trying to What
are trying to say when they say he wouldn't say subpar? Like,
what are they getting at there?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
You know exactly what he's getting.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Understand what they're getting.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Wait, I'm a white guy. I don't say subpar. That
was I've never used that.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I don't know that that's black white though. I think
that that that was more so a shot at athletes. No,
that that a football player more. It's more so than
you know, being that. I don't know, but I don't care.
I don't care if he thought up par or I
don't care. All I'm saying is whatever it is that
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he said. What I'm trying to understand is why is
it being turned into such a big deal. That's my
thing is is that Mike always is talking on the sidelines.
He always has, you know, his thoughts on how he
feels about something, and a lot of times the media
shows it and they catch it. I just think that
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guys being guys playing football because football is a Mochi's
most sport. It is a sport where there's passion and
emotion involved. And I guess the point I was finishing
before we got here was I mean, don't we want
to see a guy have passion for what it is
that he does. Don't you want to see Dak Prescott
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be upset that something didn't go the way that it
was supposed to go. If I'm a fan, I want
to see that guy's care. You know. One of the
one things that I used to and I played with Eli,
one of the one things you could never do was
really really at at big moments. You never saw Eli
make make faces or show emotion. It was like the
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weirdest thing to me to see it, and then you
start to realize that's that's his mental makeup. But I
was like, dang for the longest time, It's like, does
dude show any emotion? Like does he care? And that's
the first thing you think if somebody doesn't show emotion,
do they even care? Like the fact that CD Lamb
showed that he cared, You could tell clearly that that
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Dak Prescott cared. I thought that if you're going to
have a conversation about that moment in particular, it's guys
that care about doing better. They want to do better.
And that's what I took from it. I didn't take
anything like ah ass, here we go, like you know,
I just didn't take it that way.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I've got a some doing it deep dive on this,
of course, because now I've now gone to Reddit and
a guy points out or at least his guests on
this is jump balls for jump balls, I got you,
And if you go back and look at it, jump
balls four Yeah, that's his number.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So he calls him four yeah, four jump He's saying
he wants to jump ball, not like a back.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Shoulder or something.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I got you. So maybe so he's not saying dead ass,
he's saying, I got you. Like that's a good teammate,
right now. So jump balls four like jump balls like
like like.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
It's you've been saying like jump balls ten jump balls
like I got you?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
All right? All right, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
The only thing that where I kind of look at that,
and again, you don't have to go to Reddit for that.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
There's like people who are just saying that on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Is Dak doesn't acknowledge it, which is odd because it's
not like he's saying something deflammatory or negative in nature.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
He's trying to talk to him.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So why wouldn't he look up you know why when
he looked out once he hears four and give him
acknowledgement and go, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
He might have listen. Again, that's like trying to predict
a mouse running off of a plane.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
The only thing I'll say to you is, even when
things are going good, when you're with a wide receiver,
they usually are very rarely happy unless they're in the
end zone holding up football after a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Truth. So I will leave it at that.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Even after getting a contract that pays thirty four million
per year, there usually is some element where it's hard
for them to be happy.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I hope that's not the case, but that's just the
reality of it.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Mfor is probably the easiest thing to lip read.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Though.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, he's not saying that. I know, we know that.
We've kind of narrowed it down to two things he
could be saying.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, but like, since we're on the topic, let's expand
it a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Do you want to go back over the jump balls
versus the subpar? So then read his lips and watch
him say subpar for dead ass. That's the problem because
if you if somebody puts something.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
In your mind and then you rewatch it, then you
think it's that now, it like manipulates the.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Way you That's why I'm just listening to y'all. Why
why Because that's exactly what it is. Like you're gonna
you can see it the way that your brain is
a pretty dope deal, Like, you can see it the
way that you're going to see it. The point is
we don't know what he said. That's the point. We're
having a fun time talking about what did the dude say? Like,
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we don't know what he said. The only person that's
gonna tell us what he's said at Cede Lamb.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, No, he won't tell you either. Hey, Lee, what
do you think you said?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Well, I think it's just an interesting point.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
I think we've all seen the NFL bad lip readings
on the internet.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And you can make it sound however you want, and
it looks exactly the way they say in it too. Right.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Oh my gosh, gum, I've never felt that way watching
those guys do that.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
No, No, it's like a no. Every time I watched
someone do that, I'm like, that's that's not right.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
All right, let me let me try that.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I had watch my mother's thumb is in her toes,
Like what what I mean? They'll do that with lip
bro That is like they'll do that with lip reading videos.
It's the weirdest stuff and it looks like that's what
they said.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Let me watch it.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Get that work for Get that work that works too.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I mean now you're just sitting there saying it while
you're watching. If that work?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Now, you know the problem is now he's just making
stuff up, looking at to get to the bottom.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Because here's the problem. Brady's trying to infiltrate my Super
Bowl pick. That's the issue here. He knows I think
the Cowboys, and he's trying to stir up something. I
don't want to talk about it. But the point is
they're coming off a big win. They went it in
a clutch fashion on the road and acupuncture stadium at
four in the morning, and you got to come in
(25:52):
here two days later and try and tell everybody there's
problems on the sideline. This team's going to a Super
Bowl and I think we all need to accept it
and stuff try to cause problems, get to this crap man.
Oh yeah, and you know, maybe next time, if people
have an issue with how they're communicating with each other,
just have him use a rapid radios on the sideline
for God's sakes.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
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Read my lips on that, players, Damn see if you
can read my lips on that? Ready? Did y'all know
(27:15):
what I said? Yeah? I read my lips I sure did.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It is I'm just saying we're on zoom Q.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
We're on zoom Q.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
He wouldn't say sub par. That's not.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
So certainly it wouldn't be LeVar doing it either.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
He would trust me all this. John so that's not
in his vernacular, would say sub par.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Just speak English, don't you?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Douche bags trying to make trying to make.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Literal little is trying to turn the littlest things into
offensive stuff. I just think it's so dumb. Lip reading
into a race issue. There's nothing else going on. Black
men wouldn't use a word.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So, you know, like, tell everybody to go read that story.
Brady set overs to us on the text chain.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Yeah, I wish I could send it back saying read
these how about yeah? Ah say that? Wow, say that?
Read these? All right?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So coming up next here we're going to we're going
to tell you some more details on what has turned
out to be a wild story in the NFL. That's
yours here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
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Speaker 1 (28:38):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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from now from the tire rack dot Com studios. Uh,
somebody's trying to take the blame for poor play in
the NFL. We will explain and you will hear from
them coming up here. Is that a Super Bowl pick
for someone?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't know someone else?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Do not? Now?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Well we may find out.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Huh. I could go a couple different ways.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What was your Super Bowl Pickabar?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Remember I know I said Casey. Who do I say
from the NFC? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I think I think you had the Rams.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
No, I think you had the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I might just said the Niners. Dang, that looks bad
now too?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Why just because of one lost? Come one? Now? It'll
be fine.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Oh, I don't feel Phil positive. You had Detroit. I
have Detroit. There we go bound. Thank you. So I'm
still good. Yeah, I'm good. He's still good. Ravens in Detroit,
I mean Casey and Detroit. Yeah, Casey and Detroit. Yeah.
There we go by the way. Shortly after this, you'm
looking pretty good.
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Speaker 2 (29:55):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing that guys are here to
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Speaker 1 (30:04):
That we turned it over to our executive producer, Lee Lap.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Good morning to everybody. Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, Brady,
Good morning, LeVar, good morning.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Hey guys.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
In case you missed this, uh hey LeVar, Hey guys,
in case you missed this story about Patriots safety Jabriel Peppers,
A little bit of it, he said, she said, But
let me give you some of the details. He's being
arrested over the weekend after allegedly choking and choking his
excuse me, let me just start over here with his
girlfriend alleged that he hit and choked her at least
(30:34):
six times Saturday night, but he claims that his refusal
to have unprotected sex with her has led to this
disturbing alleged allegation.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Does that change the cocaine they found on him? Listen,
there's a couple of consistent pieces of the story that.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Is not he said.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
She said thing.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I believe he did. He have a firearm on him
as well.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I believe.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
So yeah, So what's good? All all of the facts
in therele I was.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Just getting to that, he said, She said, part I mean,
those were the disputed.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Parts, right, There's still some other offenses that probably are
not gonna come down to what he said.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
She said, correct, very correct.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
That is the uh, the the booger sugar that was
lying around. Is there any proof that they took it?
It could have just been a decoration. I mean maybe
they're like, you know what, some of this fakes know
for Christmas decorations a little bit too pricey. Why don't
we throw some of this stuff around and just see
what happens. I mean, if we don't see him do it.
I'm just not gonna sit here and uh, you know,
(31:38):
go down that road with the guy. Although I do
think it's kind of funny that this story popped up
and nobody knew anything about it until like after the
game took place on Sunday. I was like, wait, what
this happened Saturday and all this stuff went down, and
it's just yeah, we're gonna go ahead and and let
him practice and be with the team until it like
that's where when this Remember when the claims which I
(32:01):
think came, it turned out that those were not accurate.
There was not Alvin Kamara. There was somebody else a
couple of years ago. There were some wild claims against them.
Might have been not Aaron Jones. It was somebody running back.
There was wild claims against them, and the team let
them continue.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
What you're saying, it was running back, is what you
yeah simulating? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, it was a black running back.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And it's like I can understand why, I can understand
why you would innocent until proven guilty all that stuff,
but why let them be around the team until this
thing is figured out?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Until Girod Mayo has said, we don't have enough to
say he shouldn't be in the buildings.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
It feels like there's enough, like there's a lot going on,
like like why have him around and let any of
this stuff be.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
A What is the point of the Commissioner's extempless Hayley?
What is the point of it at that? That that
like we never use it anymore. We used to have it,
It was used for these exact situations, and now they've
just shied away from it completely. Why would they not
just put them on the exempt list for however long
that is to figure this out. I don't get why
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that exists yet they don't use it anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, it's a little a little strange because then everybody's
going to be asked about it at practice. Everyone's going
to be asked whyse here? What's going on?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
And they're gonna be asked about it anyway, whatever the
extended them asking it. I mean, at least he's there
to answer it himself. Well, if I'm a player, I
go ask him. He's over there right there.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, crazy story. Not the first crazy story with a
player in New England, though, I feel like that's happened before.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
What else we got lee guys in case you missed this,
an advance of Hurricane Milton, the Buccaneers are leaving Tampa
Bay Area early, that being today ahead of their Week
six matchup with the Saints. The team was able to
secure necessary hotels in New Orleans. According to the nest
A Hurricane Center, Milton has strengthened into a Category five hurricane.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
This thing's a beast.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
I heard it's going to go through Disney.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Yes, I heard such rumors.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I heard it's going to go through Disney and tear
it up, is what I'm hearing. Well, I hope not, man,
that's what I've heard. Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It's one of the largest right now on water by
the time a hindred and eighty degree win.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Eighty miles an hour, sixty degree whin.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, and they're expecting it to make landfall tomorrow. So
it looks like it's going to be a real problem
for a lot of people out there.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
One of the scariest things I think I read about
it is someone had said that like this is basically
it's it's nearing the mathematical limit of what Earth's atmosphere
over the ocean water can produce. Yeah, dang, sustained one
hundred and eighty mile an hour winds GUS over twenty
(35:00):
miles per hour.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's crazy. And I the storm is really small.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Apparently three point eight miles wide, which is really small
for a storm.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Of this magnitude.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And there's still people that are dealing with the repercussions
of what happened Helene in North Carolina. I mean people
got destroyed there, like there were the death toll was wild.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
They said there's like still two thousand people missing or
something to that.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like some people are like trapped crazy. Yeah, so I
hope everybody saved out there. That's a rough one. Geez,
we've got time for one more, Lee, No, we do not.
All right, thank thank you Lee. So that, like you,
that'll wrap up today's edition before the leftovers, right, Cheese
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Pete Prisco's gonna stop by. We're gonna look back at
Monday Night football, another ho hum standard performance by the
(00:22):
Kansas City Chiefs, who are still unbeaten. We've got concern
in Dallas over some lip reading accusations. We've got some
concern in Cleveland over bad quarterback play. And we've got
some concern in New York over a bum ankle on
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Speaker 3 (01:25):
Hi, probably better than Derek Carr.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Geez, dang, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Saying, damn obleak is intact over here. Yeah, you guys
ever had an oblique injury before?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
No, it's like a baseball injury, right.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well, not really, it could be any injury happened in football.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, I was gonna say it.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
And by the way, the older you get as a dad, buddy,
trust it, you're gonna be like, well, what's that like?
You're gonna have all sorts of injuries you never thought
you were like ever gonna encounter on your life before.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Because when they say when a guy gets it the
oblique in baseball, like, it's a kind of a tedious
injury because you can't swing, you can't really like move.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's not a baseball injury. It's it's it can be
a golf injury. Anytime you rotate. You rotate a lot
of sports. I'm gonna take that Jonas Dad injury for
you soon as soon as you realize that that's what
that's what happens.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Man, you get older, start having injuries like this.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, no, I'm gonna try and steer clear of that.
I mean, I was we were ripping it yesterday at
the park.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
What do you mean, I mean what I.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Threw a twelve six curveball to my son with a
whiffle ball that he still got hold of. I mean
he can. He can just pipe it with the best
of them.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
So the best of.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Them, So base baseball or not, that was not a
not a great performance by Derek carran company. And I'm
watching Kansas City and it's like they've got, you know,
multiple tight ends they're using, they're using wide receivers that
you know other teams probably didn't want. They're using a
running back that was out of work, and yet they're
(02:59):
still just winning games and figuring out ways to put
up w's during the course of the season. And it
just reminds me of the Patriots. It's like, Okay, here
we go. It's just they're just going to be a
team that's going to be in contention very super Bowl
for the next decade. And every single time I pick
against him was like, no, No, this can't be the
year they just go out and rack up five straight
(03:20):
wins in a row to start off a year.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So that's the similarities are pretty interesting when you bring
it up that way. The difference is you've got an
offensive mind and head coach an era that plays to
the offense's advantage.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I think they're taking full advantage of that.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You've got a quarterback who similar to Britton ways but
has his own style and stamp of it. You know,
the way he throws the football, the way he gets
outside the pocket, creates plays a tight end who's a
future Hall of Famer, similar to what they had in Gronk,
but now in Kelsey and also very different. I mean
he's not a you know, behemoth of a human being.
(03:58):
He's smaller, able to kind of do more. He's kind
of known now for this lateral like you saw last
night to Kareem Hunt to help get the first down.
Like it's there's similarities, but they're unique in their own
way as to how they go about doing it, and
it's you know, it's it's interesting that Spags has been
there the whole time as their defensive coordinator. Maybe the
(04:20):
perfect fit because as you kind of look at all this,
they've moved through offensive coordinators that's never impacted them. They've
moved through some players, and they're on the roster that's
never impacted them. It's very similar to New England in
that way. The one concern I have with this team
is if they moved on from Steve Spagnola, you know,
what does this defense look like? Because the defense was
able to do enough last night to styn me any
(04:41):
sort of rushing attack, and Derek Carr struggled at times.
I mean, the first interception was like, what the heck
was that? But outside of that, there's a couple of
big plays and that was kind of it. And the
defense has been the one, to me, consistent piece that
they've had despite a lot of the you know, trying
to figure out who's gonna be that number one wide receiver,
deal with some of the injuries they've had on the
(05:02):
offensive side of.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
The ball, they pull it together and I think it's
the biggest comparison I believe you can make with the
New England Patriots of of old, the dominant ones, the
Super Bowl ones, and this Kansas City team is the culture.
You know, we've heard, We've heard so many times throughout
(05:24):
the course in time of the success of the Patriots
all all these guys that came and went different different
coaches and coordinators that came and gone. Now listen that
it was all the coordinators in New England and they
were still able to replace, you know, the Romeo Cornells
and you know the different guys that that moved on.
But with that being said, when you look at how
(05:48):
this Kansas City team plays in comparison to a dominant
team like that that old New England Patriots group, it's
the culture. I think that that's the biggest takeaway I
get when I watch this team play. You have a
quarterback that is the catalysts of the team, undisputed. No
(06:11):
one would would dare challenge the fact that Patrick Mahomes
is one hundred percent the example, the motivator. He's the
guy that they all believe in and he wears that
role very well. You have a coach that all the
(06:33):
players they believe in, they buy into, they subscribe to
his way, and now you have a rest of everyone
who steps in understanding what that expectation is, what that
accountability is, and knowing that if you're going to achieve
at a high level, there has to be you know,
(06:56):
Andy Reid said it in his interview. These guys just
don't They don't flinch, They don't let the size of
the moment, they don't let what's taking place dictate to
them the outcome. They just do what they need to
do in those moments. That's culture and and that's understated
in sports so many times when you see a team
(07:19):
that that knows how to handle handle themselves, they you know,
guy goes down, another guy steps up. I mean, Kareem
Hunt gets back in there and and and it's like
he never left, you know. And this is not a
bad New New Orleans team. I actually think that they're
a very very competitive team. This was a quality win.
(07:40):
And I think that that culture that that Kansas City
is playing with right now gives a level of confidence
where they just know they're going to get the job done.
Might not be the prettiest. Here are all these you know,
different analysts and hosts talking about you know this, this
isn't the Kansas City Chiefs that we know this isn't
(08:04):
it's boring. It's boring, this that and the other. It's
not Patrick Mahomes going downfield, it's not the big plays
and this, that and the other. It's a team that
takes what you give them and they are going to
eventually win the game. I think that people should learn
to accept that now because it's been enough games where
that's evident.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I think we've run the may We've kind of run
its course. The whole Taylor Swift thing, by the way,
Like Troy Aikman's even getting fed up with it, Like
you can tell they're just kind of tired of the
whole thing. If we could just get back to our
regular schedule programming of just focus on the Chiefs and
Travis Kelsey being a great player.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I think it would be better for everybody involved.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like I think, here's a clip of Belichick on the
Manning Cast. They showed her and he was just like, Oh.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
How great was Belichick on the Manning Cast last night?
Like this singer after singer after the singer, I mean,
ripping Peyton and then the for pumping in fake crowd.
He was saying like, yeah, we knew it was fake
when we can hear the CD's skipping back in the
day back.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
It was fantastic, man.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So so the Kansas City Chiefs get it done. New
Orleans started off the year two and zero. They've now
lost three straight. Derek Carr is a little banged up.
Do you want to hear Derek Carr who although playing
and by the way, Jay Kyner went to Fresno State
as well too, correct, Yeah they did. So is that
just Fresno State jumped in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Dropped the seed there at the end of the game.
I thought maybe that a shot getting back into it.
One thing quickly before you transition. Yeah, the play to
Juju Smith Schuster on the goal line. I do feel
like that's a play that like doesn't happen to Kansas City.
It usually happens to other teams against Kansas City or
you know. It kind of almost reminded me a little
bit of like the Seattle's New England Super Bowl, where
(09:57):
it's New England who was on the better side of that.
It was just odd, you know, seeing how Juju Smith
Schuster literally should be catching a touchdown pass instead volleyball
sets it to Kayln Saunders. I mean the wide receiver
conundrum will become an issue at some point this season
if they don't get Hollywood Brown back and into the mix.
(10:18):
Xavier Worthy's won his part as a rookie, but the
rest of the pieces, outside of what they have in
Kelsey a tight end and some of the other tight ends,
they just it doesn't feel like they can sustain this
way forever, and especially when plays like that happen, when
you literally take seven points off the board going into
the fourth quarter and you felt like the game was
(10:38):
basically over at that point. But seeing that player going, ah,
maybe they don't have all the luck in the world,
or the ball doesn't always bounce their way. Because every
single person will try to tell you the league gives
them all the calls, the ball always bounces their way.
That is not always the truth. And that was a
prime example of that last night.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
So what's the They were trying to explain it, but
I was confused. The Kaylin Sonder is his brother.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
His brother, Kalyn Saunder's brother is a backup dancer for
Taylor Swift, which we all could have not used that
piece of information. I just went on living our lives.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But like right after they discussed it, the guy comes
up with the interception in return scripted. No, I'm just
it worked out well. But yeah, I just thought to myself,
what is her him being a backup dancer to do
with anything. I have no idea. It just kind of
all tied together. It was just a happy accident.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
For Joe Buck accident.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, that's all. It was a nice little happy accident.
And Xavier Worthy hands the football to his mom on
her birthday afterwards, Uh, he looks just like her, by
the way, like literally identical to her, which is, you know,
good for everybody involved. But Derek Carr was discussing his
injury afterwards, let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Not good, but you know, we'll get we'll get a
amorrow and all that kind of stuff tomorrow and figure
it out. But for me not to be out there
with my guys, no matter of situation, it's it takes something.
So it wasn't like a pain thing, you know. It
wasn't like dealing with pain, like can you deal with
the pain then you can go. It's like literally, I
just I just can't do what I want to do.
And so obviously it's fresh and just happened. But you know,
(12:21):
I mean, I'm gonna do anything I can to make
sure i'm there on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
All right, Oh right, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I mean, that's kind of scary for SADES fans though.
I mean, in all reality, if if you look at
this team without Derek Carr, it's more Taysom Hill, It's
it's shake Hanner out a quarterback. It's there's some questions
I think as to what this team's going to be.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, yeah, look at the Raiders of that Derek Carr.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
I mean, this is my nightmare.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
No, it could be.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It could be a real problem for them.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
It's not necessarily because of him, though I would say that.
I mean, he is a good quarterback. I don't think
there's you know, I'm not trying to take away from him,
but maybe the Raiders problem might be a little bit bigger.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Do have the Bucks next the divisional game?
Speaker 5 (13:09):
That's wold Man. I was trying to focus in on
what we're talking about while reading what you said that wild.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Man, Yeah, that's wow.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
There's bigger issues out here in the world, I'll tell
you that than the ones we're discussing. God.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, I mean hurting your applice one thing.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, having your mayor get decapitated, that's a whole Not
after taking office is a little different.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yeah, I mean talking about sending a message.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So Mexico mayor's decapitated head found on his car six
days after taking office.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Exactly what exactly are you sending that to?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I don't know about you, guys, but I'll be taking
a long way home today.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
So that's okay. I understand. I understand your terms. Now,
see we could do it your way, ever that way
is okay. Yes, hey, man, I just don't want to
be next.
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Sports Radio coming up, and we'll call it about twenty
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is kind of a wild story in the NFL. That'll
be yours here from the ti raq dot Com studios. So,
I mean, I don't know why we got to do this,
but enough is enough, So God forbid. Ce Dee Lamb
(15:27):
and Dak Prescott have a little bit of a dust
up on the sideline where Ceedee Lamb is a kind
of run in his mouth and John at Dak Prescott
during a game on Sunday night. And for some reason,
I think you're.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Missing the point of it, though it's not so much
there was.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
A dust up or an argument, discussion, whatever, it's what
did he say That is what went viral, and that
is what everyone's been trying to figure out since that
game ended, in fact a win, by the way, which
makes all this, you know, kind of go away, but
everyone's still trying to figure out what exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I could see thee lamb say to Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Now, what's your guess based on us?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Or people were saying, like he said, throw it up
or jump jump or something like that, jump.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Jump ball for jump ball or something like that.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Now someone else said that he said, like, I'm basically
saying it was a subpar throw, you know, dead ass?
Is how like the expression, which when I read the lips,
it sounded more like that than it looked like him
sam jump ball for jump ball. It looked like he
said sub par throw, dead ass like which again basically
(16:39):
saying it was a poor throw and like for real,
like you need to get your crap together. And the
way Dak didn't respond to it at all made me
think more of it was more negative in nature like
that than it was him saying, hey, jump ball, throw
a jump ball.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
If that's the case, then that's just a wide receiver
talking to you about what he's like looking for.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
But clearly there's something else going on there.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I mean, we saw, you know, Chris Jones pop off
last night. I mean, guys pop off. Sometimes it matters
to some what.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
A pop Chris.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
All right, Yeah, I think it matters sometimes when when
you see a guy have an emotional moment on on
the field or on the sideline. It doesn't always have
to be that there's trouble or there's oh my gosh,
they're falling apart or anything like that. Guys be caring
one thing about ceedee lamb. He cares about being good.
(17:44):
He cares about the way he looks. He cares about
the way he plays. I don't have a problem with
a dude that gives you results and they show passion
and they show moments. Now some would say, ah, he
needs to show more control or you know, be aware
of your surroundings because things like this can happen. You
play for Dallas, these things can happen. But at the
(18:07):
end of the day, he's playing the game, he's in
the moment, and whatever it is that he said, whatever happened,
it happened. You could tell that he was frustrated.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
What do you think he said?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
I don't. I tried, Like I said, I tried to
read his lips because I went for the bait, just
like everybody else.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
What do you think he said?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I got tired of looking at his lips trying to
figure it out.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You don't have a guess.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I doubt out, no doubt out. I couldn't get it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I could.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I couldn't get anything egregious, Like I know what m
effort looks like coming out of somebody's facial expressions. I
know what I know what like the B word, Like
I say bitch all the time, so I use it
right there, and so it's not in bad You don't
think you don't.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Think he said, dead ass?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I don't know. I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell, That's
all I'm saying. I looked a few times, and then
I started feeling undoable about trying to read his dude's lips.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Well, people were like, hey man, City Lamb would say
something like subpar.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I'm like, he wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I think what Twitter guy knows what Ceedee Lamb would
say and wouldn't say like, okay, palell, like you have
no idea what players say in the locker room, on
the sideline or any of that. But we've got an
expert on Twitter who's going to say that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
My best guess would be jump ball, dead ass. I
think you're right.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I mean, and for what I think he said subpar
dead ass like subpar threat.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
And by the way, what are they trying to What
are trying to say when they say he wouldn't say subpar? Like,
what are they getting at there?
Speaker 5 (19:37):
You know exactly what he's getting.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Understand what they're getting.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Wait, I'm a white guy. I don't say subpar. That
was I've never used that.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I don't know that that's black white though. I think
that that that was more so a shot at athletes. No,
that that a football player more. It's more so than
you know, being that. I don't know, but I don't care.
I don't care if he thought up par or I
don't care. All I'm saying is whatever it is that
(20:11):
he said. What I'm trying to understand is why is
it being turned into such a big deal. That's my
thing is is that Mike always is talking on the sidelines.
He always has, you know, his thoughts on how he
feels about something, and a lot of times the media
shows it and they catch it. I just think that
(20:33):
guys being guys playing football because football is a Mochi's
most sport. It is a sport where there's passion and
emotion involved. And I guess the point I was finishing
before we got here was I mean, don't we want
to see a guy have passion for what it is
that he does. Don't you want to see Dak Prescott
(20:55):
be upset that something didn't go the way that it
was supposed to go. If I'm a fan, I want
to see that guy's care. You know. One of the
one things that I used to and I played with Eli,
one of the one things you could never do was
really really at at big moments. You never saw Eli
make make faces or show emotion. It was like the
(21:18):
weirdest thing to me to see it, and then you
start to realize that's that's his mental makeup. But I
was like, dang for the longest time, It's like, does
dude show any emotion? Like does he care? And that's
the first thing you think if somebody doesn't show emotion,
do they even care? Like the fact that CD Lamb
showed that he cared, You could tell clearly that that
(21:40):
Dak Prescott cared. I thought that if you're going to
have a conversation about that moment in particular, it's guys
that care about doing better. They want to do better.
And that's what I took from it. I didn't take
anything like ah ass, here we go, like you know,
I just didn't take it that way.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I've got a some doing it deep dive on this,
of course, because now I've now gone to Reddit and
a guy points out or at least his guests on
this is jump balls for jump balls, I got you,
And if you go back and look at it, jump
balls four Yeah, that's his number.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So he calls him four yeah, four jump He's saying
he wants to jump ball, not like a back.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Shoulder or something.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I got you. So maybe so he's not saying dead ass,
he's saying, I got you. Like that's a good teammate,
right now. So jump balls four like jump balls like
like like.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
It's you've been saying like jump balls ten jump balls
like I got you?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
All right? All right, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
The only thing that where I kind of look at that,
and again, you don't have to go to Reddit for that.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
There's like people who are just saying that on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Is Dak doesn't acknowledge it, which is odd because it's
not like he's saying something deflammatory or negative in nature.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
He's trying to talk to him.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
So why wouldn't he look up you know why when
he looked out once he hears four and give him
acknowledgement and go, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
He might have listen. Again, that's like trying to predict
a mouse running off of a plane.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
The only thing I'll say to you is, even when
things are going good, when you're with a wide receiver,
they usually are very rarely happy unless they're in the
end zone holding up football after a touchdown.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Truth. So I will leave it at that.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Even after getting a contract that pays thirty four million
per year, there usually is some element where it's hard
for them to be happy.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I hope that's not the case, but that's just the
reality of it.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Mfor is probably the easiest thing to lip read.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Though.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, he's not saying that. I know, we know that.
We've kind of narrowed it down to two things he
could be saying.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, but like, since we're on the topic, let's expand
it a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Do you want to go back over the jump balls
versus the subpar? So then read his lips and watch
him say subpar for dead ass. That's the problem because
if you if somebody puts something.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
In your mind and then you rewatch it, then you
think it's that now, it like manipulates the.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Way you That's why I'm just listening to y'all. Why
why Because that's exactly what it is. Like you're gonna
you can see it the way that your brain is
a pretty dope deal, Like, you can see it the
way that you're going to see it. The point is
we don't know what he said. That's the point. We're
having a fun time talking about what did the dude say? Like,
(24:28):
we don't know what he said. The only person that's
gonna tell us what he's said at Cede Lamb.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, No, he won't tell you either. Hey, Lee, what
do you think you said?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Well, I think it's just an interesting point.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
I think we've all seen the NFL bad lip readings
on the internet.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And you can make it sound however you want, and
it looks exactly the way they say in it too. Right.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Oh my gosh, gum, I've never felt that way watching
those guys do that.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
No, No, it's like a no. Every time I watched
someone do that, I'm like, that's that's not right.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
All right, let me let me try that.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I had watch my mother's thumb is in her toes,
Like what what I mean? They'll do that with lip
bro That is like they'll do that with lip reading videos.
It's the weirdest stuff and it looks like that's what
they said.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Let me watch it.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Get that work for Get that work that works too.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I mean now you're just sitting there saying it while
you're watching. If that work?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Now, you know the problem is now he's just making
stuff up, looking at to get to the bottom.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Because here's the problem. Brady's trying to infiltrate my Super
Bowl pick. That's the issue here. He knows I think
the Cowboys, and he's trying to stir up something. I
don't want to talk about it. But the point is
they're coming off a big win. They went it in
a clutch fashion on the road and acupuncture stadium at
four in the morning, and you got to come in
(25:52):
here two days later and try and tell everybody there's
problems on the sideline. This team's going to a Super
Bowl and I think we all need to accept it
and stuff try to cause problems, get to this crap man.
Oh yeah, and you know, maybe next time, if people
have an issue with how they're communicating with each other,
just have him use a rapid radios on the sideline
for God's sakes.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
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Read my lips on that, players, Damn see if you
can read my lips on that? Ready? Did y'all know
(27:15):
what I said? Yeah? I read my lips I sure did.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It is I'm just saying we're on zoom Q.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
We're on zoom Q.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
He wouldn't say sub par. That's not.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
So certainly it wouldn't be LeVar doing it either.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
He would trust me all this. John so that's not
in his vernacular, would say sub par.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Just speak English, don't you?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Douche bags trying to make trying to make.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Literal little is trying to turn the littlest things into
offensive stuff. I just think it's so dumb. Lip reading
into a race issue. There's nothing else going on. Black
men wouldn't use a word.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So, you know, like, tell everybody to go read that story.
Brady set overs to us on the text chain.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Yeah, I wish I could send it back saying read
these how about yeah? Ah say that? Wow, say that?
Read these? All right?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
So coming up next here we're going to we're going
to tell you some more details on what has turned
out to be a wild story in the NFL. That's
yours here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
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Speaker 1 (28:38):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up top of next hour a little over twelve minutes
from now from the tire rack dot Com studios. Uh,
somebody's trying to take the blame for poor play in
the NFL. We will explain and you will hear from
them coming up here. Is that a Super Bowl pick
for someone?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I don't know someone else?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Do not? Now?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Well we may find out.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Huh. I could go a couple different ways.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What was your Super Bowl Pickabar?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Remember I know I said Casey. Who do I say
from the NFC? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I think I think you had the Rams.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
No, I think you had the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
I might just said the Niners. Dang, that looks bad
now too?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Why just because of one lost? Come one? Now? It'll
be fine.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Oh, I don't feel Phil positive. You had Detroit. I
have Detroit. There we go bound. Thank you. So I'm
still good. Yeah, I'm good. He's still good. Ravens in Detroit,
I mean Casey and Detroit. Yeah, Casey and Detroit. Yeah.
There we go by the way. Shortly after this, you'm
looking pretty good.
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Speaker 2 (29:55):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing that guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it, but.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
That we turned it over to our executive producer, Lee Lap.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Good morning to everybody. Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, Brady,
Good morning, LeVar, good morning.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Hey guys.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
In case you missed this, uh hey LeVar, Hey guys,
in case you missed this story about Patriots safety Jabriel Peppers,
A little bit of it, he said, she said, But
let me give you some of the details. He's being
arrested over the weekend after allegedly choking and choking his
excuse me, let me just start over here with his
girlfriend alleged that he hit and choked her at least
(30:34):
six times Saturday night, but he claims that his refusal
to have unprotected sex with her has led to this
disturbing alleged allegation.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Does that change the cocaine they found on him? Listen,
there's a couple of consistent pieces of the story that.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Is not he said.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
She said thing.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I believe he did. He have a firearm on him
as well.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I believe.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
So yeah, So what's good? All all of the facts
in therele I was.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Just getting to that, he said, She said, part I mean,
those were the disputed.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Parts, right, There's still some other offenses that probably are
not gonna come down to what he said.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
She said, correct, very correct.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
That is the uh, the the booger sugar that was
lying around. Is there any proof that they took it?
It could have just been a decoration. I mean maybe
they're like, you know what, some of this fakes know
for Christmas decorations a little bit too pricey. Why don't
we throw some of this stuff around and just see
what happens. I mean, if we don't see him do it.
I'm just not gonna sit here and uh, you know,
(31:38):
go down that road with the guy. Although I do
think it's kind of funny that this story popped up
and nobody knew anything about it until like after the
game took place on Sunday. I was like, wait, what
this happened Saturday and all this stuff went down, and
it's just yeah, we're gonna go ahead and and let
him practice and be with the team until it like
that's where when this Remember when the claims which I
(32:01):
think came, it turned out that those were not accurate.
There was not Alvin Kamara. There was somebody else a
couple of years ago. There were some wild claims against them.
Might have been not Aaron Jones. It was somebody running back.
There was wild claims against them, and the team let
them continue.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
What you're saying, it was running back, is what you
yeah simulating? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, it was a black running back.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And it's like I can understand why, I can understand
why you would innocent until proven guilty all that stuff,
but why let them be around the team until this
thing is figured out?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Until Girod Mayo has said, we don't have enough to
say he shouldn't be in the buildings.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
It feels like there's enough, like there's a lot going on,
like like why have him around and let any of
this stuff be.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
A What is the point of the Commissioner's extempless Hayley?
What is the point of it at that? That that
like we never use it anymore. We used to have it,
It was used for these exact situations, and now they've
just shied away from it completely. Why would they not
just put them on the exempt list for however long
that is to figure this out. I don't get why
(33:14):
that exists yet they don't use it anymore.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Yeah, it's a little a little strange because then everybody's
going to be asked about it at practice. Everyone's going
to be asked whyse here? What's going on?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
And they're gonna be asked about it anyway, whatever the
extended them asking it. I mean, at least he's there
to answer it himself. Well, if I'm a player, I
go ask him. He's over there right there.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, crazy story. Not the first crazy story with a
player in New England, though, I feel like that's happened before.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
What else we got lee guys in case you missed this,
an advance of Hurricane Milton, the Buccaneers are leaving Tampa
Bay Area early, that being today ahead of their Week
six matchup with the Saints. The team was able to
secure necessary hotels in New Orleans. According to the nest
A Hurricane Center, Milton has strengthened into a Category five hurricane.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
This thing's a beast.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
I heard it's going to go through Disney.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Yes, I heard such rumors.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I heard it's going to go through Disney and tear
it up, is what I'm hearing. Well, I hope not, man,
that's what I've heard. Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It's one of the largest right now on water by
the time a hindred and eighty degree win.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Eighty miles an hour, sixty degree whin.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, and they're expecting it to make landfall tomorrow. So
it looks like it's going to be a real problem
for a lot of people out there.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
One of the scariest things I think I read about
it is someone had said that like this is basically
it's it's nearing the mathematical limit of what Earth's atmosphere
over the ocean water can produce. Yeah, dang, sustained one
hundred and eighty mile an hour winds GUS over twenty
(35:00):
miles per hour.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's crazy. And I the storm is really small.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Apparently three point eight miles wide, which is really small
for a storm.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Of this magnitude.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And there's still people that are dealing with the repercussions
of what happened Helene in North Carolina. I mean people
got destroyed there, like there were the death toll was wild.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
They said there's like still two thousand people missing or
something to that.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like some people are like trapped crazy. Yeah, so I
hope everybody saved out there. That's a rough one. Geez,
we've got time for one more, Lee, No, we do not.
All right, thank thank you Lee. So that, like you,
that'll wrap up today's edition before the leftovers, right, Cheese
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