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Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Giants sign Russell Wilson, but how does that affect the Draft? The Vikings confidence in JJ McCarthy is in question. Plus, the Patriots bring in Stefon Diggs after missing out on DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Wednesday edition, We've got the usuals, the
old Peel Stop by Petros Papadakis. We're also going to
have our midweek Awards, Lee's Leftovers, and in case you
missed it, we've got the very latest on some NFL movement.
How does Russell Wilson in New York affect the draft

(00:21):
for the Giants and others picking in the top ten.
We're gonna talk about the confidence of the Vikings may
or may not have in JJ McCarthy. We've also got
the latest speculation about cam Ward the NFL. Hey, what
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Speaker 3 (01:41):
Good morning morning.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
How we feeling good? Everybody fired up?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Now? Just see what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I'm fired I mean I'm in here.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
We gotta make sure you We gotta make sure you
there cute, to make sure the connection is there or something.
We gotta just make sure that. That's he's got to
make sure.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Actually he was.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
I thought he was poking at something else. That's what
I thought I thought he was.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
He wasn't poking. He wasn't poking. He was he was
you know, that's the you know, status quo. You know,
he just got to make sure.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
But yeah, I don't. I don't feel like I ever poked,
to be honest with.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
There's no there's no reason to move on unless we're
all moving together, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
So that's true. Just you just got to make sure.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
That everybody responds before before he gets to going to
where he's going.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I get it. Well, let me ask you this. That's
a slow taxi cab driver. I understand that. That's how
he rolls. That's all bammed. You know, we all move
to New York together. Is it possible? If we're gonna
move somewhere, we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
And we certainly had to make sure you were responsive
for this part of the show.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
What are you talking about? You did call it?

Speaker 4 (02:53):
You do call it? Just man Brady said it would happen.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
And I'm gonna sit this segment out.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Oh he's gonna get to the big Apple in Sierra
and they're gonna give them their goodies.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Oh gosh, this is a great move. It's a great move.
What's ps all? Right?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Fine?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
This is where the story goes up, Russell Wilson, just
to stop, That's where it goes up.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Brand new member of the New York Giants, one rare
ten point five million could be worth out the twenty
one million. Whoopedee doo, congratulations.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Are you playing that Musicause the Veto's gonna take him
out and getting pitched.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I've never been a bigger Tobby DeVito fan of my life.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
He gonna take him out in East Jersey.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Ain't gonna come back.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
So Pod further review the projection that the Giants were
going to take Shador Sanders, you know, took a little
bit of a hit, a little bit of a fender bender.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
How do those odds look By the way, as we
talked about on Monday, when you made this grand proclamation,
how the Jamis Winston signing was that they're not going
to take another veteran.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
What do those odds look like? Now?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I'm not ready to discuss that right now, to be
honest with you. We've got a whole show to get
into that. You know, we can look at that to
another point, but it does feel like away we go
and the New York Giants are going to be looking
elsewhere with that number three pick.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, I just wonder the closer we get to the
draft will I mean this to me is one of
the first dominoes or whatever to say that there could
be an understanding.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
And again, I don't want to be that.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I don't want to be that guy because I like
these guys, but I just got to do my job.
It could be the first sign of saying that these
quarterbacks aren't top five guys.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
They might not be top ten guys.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
I know it sounds crazy, and I know some of
these teams need a quarterback and I get that, but again,
do you use a number one pick, a number two pick,
a number three pick.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Do you use it on a.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Guy that you might you just might not be all
the way clear on if they are a changer at
that position. I just I can't. I think that the
more we see and the more we hear, and the
closer we get, I just don't. I can't see how
you justify it. And that's just, you know, that's just

(05:47):
how I'm looking at it. So them taking Russell Wilson,
I don't know that that means they're not going to
take a quarterback in the draft. I just don't think
they're going to take it with their first pick. That's
what I think the Giants select.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Is it third? Is that right? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (06:04):
I think The hard thing about it is if you're
looking at the Tennessee Titans, and we can get into
that here in a little bit. They seem very interested
in cam Ward. They've gone through all of the check
marks or steps you go through if you're going to
take a quarterback at number one.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
So far, you know, we've heard about.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Obviously the visits and things they've they've had with cam
Ward at the Combine. They've now followed it up by
being present at his pro day. They've set up a
private workout that is, those are all the steps that
you take if you're saying, we would like to draft
this guy. We want to know more about this guy.
So they seem like they're going in that direction. Now,

(06:44):
maybe you know, it's just part of their due diligence
and they're trying to learn about the player that they
may not take when it's all said and done, or
if they trade out of that spot, for example, But
it seems like that's the direction they're going. Aland Brown's, OK,
what do the Cleveland Browns do? Because they're sitting there
at number two, and if they don't take cam Ward,

(07:05):
they might be looking at shore standards, They might be
looking at a quarterback, So you kind of find yourself,
like we usually talk about in regards to the draft,
looking at it not necessarily the fact that, hey, you know,
is Abdul Carter the best overall prospect?

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Travis HANMANBSTO.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah, those are probably two better overall prospects, but they
don't play quarterback. And if these you know, these places,
these teams don't figure out that position, it really doesn't matter.
So if the Giants are batting third in this case,
not only are they looking at it saying, well, we
can raid on Rogers, but it sounds like if he plays,
he wants to go to Pittsburgh if that even happens,

(07:42):
not us, and.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
So they could wait around.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
But then maybe Russ might say, well, the Browns are
actually you know, calling too, and maybe they want to
try to bring me in, you know, to get them
through this season and see where things go. So I
think there's a bunch of factors that led to this
and the Giants deciding that that kind of now.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Is the to strike with Russ.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
I think for Russ, this is part of the best
contract that he could get too out of the teams
that were, you know, looking for services, you know, if
it's incentivized to go up to twenty one million, great,
you know, but he's at least got you know, about
eleven million guaranteed in this deal, and he could feel like, well,
it's more than jamis, so, at least from a veterans standpoint,
I know my role. I know what I'm being paid

(08:23):
to do. I'm being paid to be the guy. And
it doesn't it doesn't necessarily exclude the Giants from taking
a quarterback if one's there, if one drops them at
that spot. But I think now it opens them up to,
you know, other positions. Maybe they're looking at Will Campbell
a tackle, you know, maybe they're looking at Abdul Card
even though I don't think there's a need for it.
They've got Burns, They've got Cavon Thibodeau. They signed pauls

(08:45):
on a debo at cornerback to a pretty big deal.
He's getting paid about eighteen million a year of this offseason.
They've got Deontay Banks they took in the first round
a couple of years ago. So I'm not really sure
what they would see Travis Hunter. Maybe he's in a
rotation there and he plays wide receiver as well to
go along with the league neighbors. But you know, as
I look at it, you know, it looks like they're

(09:05):
setting themselves up to either take one of those blue
ship prospects or even trade back. Dare I say, and
be able to get to a spot where they get
multiple picks to kind of help out this this roster,
whether it's on offense or anywhere else.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, I think you do your due diligence for multiple,
multiple reasons. And I mean some that would jump right
out at you is well, because you want the kid
and you want to make sure it's it's one of
the guys that if you're going to bring them in,
you do want.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
To check off all those boxes.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Two could be you want to drive the value up
of the prospect and drive the value up of your
pick at the same point in time. You know, if
if they believe we want cam Ward and the team
wants cam Ward, then they're going to show you at
some point that they want cam Ward just like you do,

(09:59):
or or you smoke out your competitors. Right, you put
something out there and you show it and you see
how people react to it. I don't know how people
are reacting to it behind the scenes. But if the
market says, well, you don't go ahead and take them like,
good for you, guys, Glad you got the number one pick. Listen,

(10:22):
it's a big pick for any position. It's a ginormous pick.
It's a larger than life pick. For a quarterback. You
go number one as a QB and you can look
at it from both sides of the spectrum, from the
success side of it to the lack of success. I mean,

(10:43):
there's not been what there's I'm trying to think. I
don't have the list of number ones at quarterback, but
I don't know the success rate. But I do remember
was JaMarcus? Was he number one overall? Yeah, you have
the Jamarcuss wasn't then? What what was Carrie? Was Kerrie
Collins the number one overall? Wasn't that Tennessee too? That's Giants?

(11:05):
Who was that?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Anyway?

Speaker 4 (11:07):
So I think that is a it's a hard that
is a hard, hard.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Place to be in a position to be in to
be a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Kerry Collins was the Panthers.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
To the Panthers, but number one though, right, he went
number one. I don't recall no, no, no, kej Dick
Kejona Carter went number one. He went number two anyway,
No no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Keijohna went number one. Carrie went like a little bit
after that.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
But anyway, the point is the point is that I'm
making it is a tough position to place somebody who
may not grade out for that that spot. I don't
I like cam Ward's game. I like Shador Sanders game.
I really do. And I'm not saying this for any

(11:55):
other reason other than to say, I just don't think
they grade out number one slot quarterbacks. Their grades to me,
don't give you this is a bona fide number one guy.
So with that being said, you want to try to
figure out find out the information you want to find
out pre draft, and you want to contrast and you

(12:16):
want to compare it because the guy that may grade
out to be a number two, number one pick for
for the draft, there may be something there that the
team doesn't like. I don't know, could be an injury
that pops up, you know, could be certain other factors
that pop up. I just don't see this. I just

(12:36):
don't see this as being a situation where where you
have such high graded dudes.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I mean to.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Say, to me, the conversation should be over the moment.
You say, Miles Garrett, this is the highest we've graded
a guy since Males Garrett. Okay, what's what's what else
is there to talk about? What else is there to
talk about? I don't know what else there's there is
to put into.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I'll bet cam Ward goes number one.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Okay, all right. I mean, it wouldn't be the first
time I'm right. It wouldn't be the first time I'm wrong.
So I just and certainly it wouldn't be the first
time you're right or the first time you're Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
We're actually on the subject because of Monday. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
I don't. I don't. I don't.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean I think it's a it's a it's a
good bet. I just don't think it's a safe bet.
I don't think it's a safe one. That's all.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I mean, minus sixteen hundred feels safe.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
But okay, take it, take it? Have we have we
found the updated odds?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yes, we found the updated odds. You have to t
the screws on this, all right, So a guy can't
get something wrong for once. I'm curious, all right, cam
Ward sixteen to one to go number one overall or
minus sixteen hundred, so you bet, you know, sixteen dollars
to make a buck. If you want cam Ward to
go number one, then it gets interesting. Abdual Carter at

(13:57):
number two is a minus one thirty chador is a
plus one eighty five, and then at the number three,
pick Travis Hunter at a minus one fifty chador to
plus one seventy.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
So if you're cam Wood's not even a part of
like the giants considerations, is that what you're.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Saying, No, no, no, no chance.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Because they got him off the board.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
There's a better chance of cam Neely going Now.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
If cam Ward doesn't go number one to if he
doesn't go number one to Tennessee and Cleveland, he'll go
number two. So he will go number two. They will
take him in Cleveland.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Yeah, it's actually the best option. I mean the hard
part for Cleveland is you know they're I think they're
all trying to get cam Ward and the problem is
Cleveland needs them. You can make the case Tennessee needs enough,
they're overwill Levis. And for Cleveland it's a necessity because
of the kind of the salary cap situation. Now you

(14:54):
need a cheaper contract to take on and That's probably
why Russell Wilson ultimately took the Giants offer is because
of what they were able to guarantee and the fact
that they were probably able to tell them, hey, we're
not going to draft one like you can sign here,
here's our guarantee, here's the incentives.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
We're not going to draft the quarterback like. We need veterans.
We need to win.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
Now, that's the pressure that we feel like we're under.
And we don't feel like we're going to be able
to get the best guy in the draft anyway. So
if we can't get that, let's go get a veteran
or a couple of veterans who we feel more.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Comfortable and confident about.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
And if we do take a young guy, maybe it's
a guy we take in the second, third, fourth, fifth
round that we feel like is a guy that can
develop more. And I don't know if that's a Riley
Leonard from Notre Dame. I'm not sure who they would
see in that capacity, but I think that would be
what the Giants are setting themselves up to do.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
And I think for the.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Browns, they're hoping that Abdul Cardgo's number one. That's what
they're hoping. But if you're the Tennessee Titans and you
went through what you did last year, you're looking at
the quarterback spot more than anything else. When you're at
the number one spot and you have the chance to
take the best guy in that draft, it's hard to
pass up on that guy. I mean, even as good

(16:09):
as Abdul Carter is as a prospect, or Travis Hunter
is as a prospect, or whoever else you want to
put in that category, it's it's too hard to pass
up when you have control of that spot.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
If you were to look at the Giants off season,
now that it listen, you know, apparently they're not going
to be taking a quarterback. Doesn't mean it's a foregone conclusion,
but it does feel like at least this opens up
the opportunity to take somebody else it's not a quarterback.
And I still, for the record, I don't think shoud
Or Sanders gets pass six to the Raiders. I don't
see it happening. Either he goes two to Cleveland or

(16:40):
somebody trades up. I don't see the Raiders passing on
him at six. But if you were to now look
at the Giants offseason, I feel a whole lot better
about Brian da Ball being able to make something of
this year and maybe stick around for another year with
the addition of Russell Wilson and Travis Hunter as opposed
to just should or saying like at least it opens

(17:02):
up the opportunity for that team to add a couple
of pieces as opposed to just going.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
All in at one.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
You know what's funny before I say what I was
about to say, just based off of what you're saying too,
just made me think, can you imagine that Russ is
so irrelevant in this scenario? Damn that it turned to
the draft. It's like, we welcome in Russ. Oh, by
the way, so let's talk about cam Ward to the

(17:29):
Giants and or the Chador Sanders to the Giants and
this and that and how this could all play out
and like, hey, Russ bad just see what you can
do with it, Bruth, Like, see what can happen with it.
But let me ask you guys this, cam Ward, Schador Sanders,
if they come out in last year's draft, where do

(17:50):
they get drafted?

Speaker 3 (17:52):
I'll keep saying it.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
I don't know that you start talking about how they
stack up amongst last year's class until JJ McCarthy, Like,
I think that's the player that you look at and say, Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Is it cam Or, is it JJ? Is it Shidoah Sanders.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
That's how much better that class was in my opinion
as prospects.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
And again, you're talking about two.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
Heisman Trophy winners Jane Daniels and then Caleb Williams before that,
and you're talking about years that Michael Pennix and Bo
Nicks both had their teams, you know, in much better
situations and really had put together two years. It's not
just like what they did their final year that the
two years Knicks was in Oregon, the two years that
the Penix was in Washington. I mean, both those guys

(18:37):
like played phenomenal. And again, so that's where when I
look at the tape and I kind of look at
those draft classes in comparison, it's it's why again I'm
looking at this draft class saying there's separation in a
lot of people's minds, which there's not as much separation
in my mind between Shidor and cam Ward.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
There's not.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
And I would actually make the case that I think
I think Shador his game, the way he plays, fits
the NFL style more and there's a lot of people
who've nitpicked at him. There's a lot of people who've
talked about arm strength. You can't make up for accuracy, though,
you can't make up for toughness. Some of the things
he's done you can coach out of him. Get to

(19:17):
get the ball out of his hand quicker. You know
when people talk about, well, hey, he throws a lot
of balls around the line of scrimmage, it's a lot
of you know, bubble screens like well, so does cam Warts.
So does every quarterback that's coming out in the draft
right now, every quarterback go if you want to look
at their throw chart and where they're throwing the football.
The days of guys throwing that mid portion of the
field somewhere between ten yards twenty yards downfield, it ain't happening.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
You're not saying.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
At the college level, you either see within ten yards
of the line of scrimmager behind it, or you see
some throws outside, most likely downfield, and the completion percentage
for those isn't that great.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
So that's kind of what you're getting.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
And so there's going to be development for any quarterback
that goes to the NFL from.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Today's college game.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
So going back to the initial point though, is if
cam Ward is in the minds of many others because
of his natural un raw ability of view it as
the number one guy and then just kind of a
drop off from there in their minds, it leads me
back to Russell Wilson's going to be a solution for
the New York Giants in this case, and the Kirk
Cousins is still something that's really interesting to keep an

(20:23):
eye on. But as has been discussed I'm sure by
you guys yesterday and maybe we've touched on a little
bit on this on Monday, but that's more of a
trade scenario during the draft. It's something where he doesn't
want to have what happened last year happened again. So
any team that takes him, I think it's going to
be a team that either missed up on the chance

(20:43):
to take a quarterback or is going to be able
to find a way of trading something for him to
get his services this time around as one of those
bridge quarterbacks, Like that's where he's at, and I think
teams would rather have Kirk Cousins probably than whatever comes
after cam Warden In a lot of cases, as crazy
as it is for people to hear, there's a level

(21:04):
of play and consistency that he's had. And last year, yes,
it wasn't great, so I got bench for Pennix. But
I also think he was playing injured. So there's still
so much that can happen between now and the draft.
I just I'm a believer in like kind of what
you're saying in regards to how this class is viewed.
And it's not surprising you've heard that. I can tell

(21:24):
you this much. Next year's draft class, there'll be teams
tanking for that guy if they can, because you know,
wonder who that guy is probably going to be arch
Manning after one year. So if you want me to
just go ahead and call the shot now, I'll say
it now. Arch Maning will be the number one overall
pick in the twenty twenty six draft. Oh okay, after
one year starting at Texas.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
I buy that just because of who he is. I
buy that. But the kid can really play. I mean,
you see him on film. He jumped off film. I asked, you, guys,
what's it going to make sense to take him out?
I remember being in State college in the room asking
does it make sense to take him out after he
was playing the way.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
That he was playing.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
So I'm you know, I just don't get that feeling
about these two that that are coming out right now.
That's that's And listen, I've talked to a couple of
different people that I still have ties with, and they
were talking to me about my son, and I brought
this up because I just wanted to know, you know,
for for general purposes, you know, whereas I douel, you know,

(22:31):
and all of this, you know, how does that work?
And this that and the other and this quarterback just
hasn't seemed to be a deterrent, That's what I'll say.
It just hasn't seemed to be a deterrent in terms
of how these these franchises, the few that at least
people that I spoke to that.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
That have been.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
You know, in contact with me as of late, it's
it just doesn't sound like it's a deterrent.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
You know.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
What happened though, to your contacts about the New York
Giants situation, What happened on those.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Contexts, what happened the context of it, what happened about
and I were trying to tell you how this sole
thing was going to play out.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Okay, I mean we didn't talk about Russell Wilson, That's
that's for certain.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
We did talk about.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Know, you asked me about my contacts and what we
were discussing. Russell Wilson wasn't one of those, you know,
and and again I didn't. I wasn't reaching out for information.
It's just kind of you know, conversation. One of one
of my teammates.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Uh actually passed away, and yeah he passed away though
well not that way, he said too slow after Okay,
yeah he passed away.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
But but yeah, but uh, in terms of just that talking,
I mean, yeah, we didn't even Russell Wilson didn't even
come up, you know, to be honest. So you know,
I don't know, you gotta you gotta wonder why. Maybe
I don't know. But the guy that I one of
the guys I did to, is a pretty prominent dude,
and you know, he's probably talked to a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Want whether what number is Abdull gonna wear in Cleveland
or New York because he's going You need to tell
me they're going to unretire Mohammed Massaqui's number and give
it to Abdull Carter.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
If the number is required retire not happening. If the
number is retired, then there's a strong possibility he's going
to have to choose a different number. I mean, it's like, oh,
he wore fifty six, he's going to the Giants. What
number is he going to wear in New York? Like,
he's not wearing fifty six? So yeah, so we have
to be staks.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
What's that? What number were you gonna wear then? Or
was who me? You in New York? I don't.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
I wore fifty five. I went to New York one last. Yeah, okay,
mister Nichols was.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
My it was.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
That's right, you know. But here's what's crazy. You don't
that I only will were fifty six or I only
wore fifty six. Becuse five plus six equals eleven?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Was eleven?

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, that's the only reason why I wore fifty six.
I didn't wear fifty six because I was trying to
be like.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Lawrence Daten, Why don't you wear like forty seven then.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Ugly ninety eight ninety two? Us couldn't.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
It wasn't allowed to wear thirty eight all that back then,
you couldn't. Thirty eight was the first number I ever
wore playing ball. But yeah, I would have worn thirty eight.
But you can't wear thirty eight, couldn't wear you know
any other number that that equaled? You could have worn
sixty nine, right, uh uh huh, not unless I tried

(25:38):
to be a defensive end and was like alignment. And
I still think that that's a that would have been
a long shot. Like I don't even know how you
but you wanted it. I mean sixty nine. No, yeah,
I mean I'm not opposed to a sixty nine. I
just wouldn't have worn the number.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I'm really gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I fall with that one. Jonas, what do you mean
I fall with that one? Get us to bro what
do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well? It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio. We do have the usuals
coming up later on. We're gonna have another edition of
In case you missed it later on this hour. We've
also got the old p Petris Popadega stopping by. We've
got Lee's leftovers, our Midweek Awards. All of it is
yours here as we take you all the way up
until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. But apparently
it's still up in the air. One team's decision is

(26:27):
still up.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
In the air.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
We'll explain why. You'll hear from him next here on FSR.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
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Speaker 1 (26:47):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Rington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Oh yeah,
coming up at about twelve minutes from now here from
the tiraq dot com studios, we are going to tell
you about another move that was made in the NFL.
Some people might be overreacting to. That'll be yours here again,

(27:09):
twelve minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Now what radio station is that?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You just got to wait for it?

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Okay, the best part, I mean, I see you jamm
into it. Uh uh uh uh.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Oh, just that that little that little detail change for
you change the song.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, remind me to kill myself the next time you
want to play.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
This creep by Radiohead.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
I'm just I'm just doing your bit.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
By the way. Oh no, I tell you guys this
story real quick.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I was proud. I was proud and also a tad
bit embarrassed. So the other night, my wife and I
were like, all right, let's watch a movie. And we're
with my son and so she's like, what about the Goonies? Like, okay,
so you know, we threw on the Goonies. We're like
thirty minutes in, maybe that far, and my son says

(28:16):
out loud and I swear to god, oh no, this
movie stinks. And I thought, and she looks over me,
she goes, you did this like literally, wouldn't let it go.
I just then it dawned on me. Yes, not not
great parents, that quite a bit. Yes, I don't know,

(28:40):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
So he definitely doesn't have a filter either, by the way.
He just says what he's feeling.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Kids are Go cubs, very odd cubs.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
He loves go Cubs. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
And depeche Mode because he said, what's up to him? Wow,
you know, I got my phone propped up so I
can look at it.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
It just it just fell off. So my apologies. Oh
it's all good.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
So JJ McCarthy was talking with Kay Adams they were
smearing it around, uh, discussing his situation in Minnesota, and
it went a little bit something like this, we as
a fan base or even media found out like, you're
the guy, the the guy recently?

Speaker 5 (29:25):
When did you know?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
When did they tell you or when was that message
to you?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
They haven't told men.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
I'm happy they didn't because I try to earn it
every single day and I never want that to be
given to me and it's such a privileged and opportunity
to give that give me that chance, and I'm just
going to make the most of it every single day.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Okay. Based on what the roster looks like at quarterback,
I feel like they've already kind of, you know, maybe
handed it over to because Brett Rippon is the only
I see on the roster at this.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
Well for now, for now, for now, well no, I'm
just saying, Look, that's what they said. Aaron Rodgers is
being patient with his decision as far as what he
wants to do. The Steelers have made their you know,
best offer to them. But I think, much like Kirk

(30:14):
Cousins and why what happened last year to him in Atlanta,
Rogers wants to be patient and it makes sense, like,
what's the rush. What's the rush to sign him at
this point unless he just you know, feels comfortable with
the situation it wants to move forward. But there's no insurance,
there's no guarantee that he is going to be the

(30:35):
guy in any place. If you know, there's not some
sort of guarantee from the team, And the only way
of really doing that is being past the draft. Now,
you know, Minnesota is not.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Going to take a quarterback because they took one last year.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
But if they get to a certain point in the
offseason and they say, maybe, you know, JJ's not ready yet,
that would change things from Minnesota because like, the only
other veteran quarterback that's really on the you'd probably say
is Kirk Cousins. They can't not gonna go.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Back to that.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
They're not gonna trade for Kirk Cousins. It would be
kind of interesting to see if that came back around,
But that didn't happen. Hey, Pittsburgh's that one place that
you're probably looking at a quarterback falling to them in
the draft if Rogers doesn't end up signing there, But
how do you know they're not gonna take one for

(31:24):
the future anyway. I mean, that's the reality of Rogers
situation is whoever he's playing for, they have to have
a plan after him. You don't know if they're gonna
get a year out of him, maybe two.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Would I would say, yes, it's Jason McCarthy. Now, we
don't know what it's gonna look like by the summer,
depending on how things go.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
They gotta have a plan for Aaron Rodgers now, not
just for the future. They gotta have You got to
have a plan for him now if it doesn't work
out with him being in there, unless you're okay with
the possibilities of if it doesn't go well, you're just
going to ride it out. But I think the more
the more I'm listening to it, the more I'm I'm curious,

(32:08):
you know, like you're saying, Minnesota saying for now, and
Pittsburgh putting their offer on the table but it not
being signed. And then the idea of thinking about Aaron
Rodgers is monitoring and measuring and weighing what team he
will will go play for after what took place in

(32:28):
New York. I wonder, is they're the chance that Aaron
Rodgers is looking at it like I'm not in a rush,
because I'm really not in a rush.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Right, the season could start.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
I might start off the season sitting back and watching
and waiting because that for now, that might be a
couple different franchises. Once you get into the into the
teeth of the season, right, you get started, Okay, JJ
McCarthy doesn't pan out, you get started. This quarterback on
this really good team gets hurt, whatever it may be.

(33:05):
If Aaron Rodgers is on a one year type of
deal to prove what he can do for himself and
for that team, then why why not wait for or
play play again? You know a little bit of roulette here?
See what plays out? Does it work out? Does it
work out where he gets an opportunity based off of

(33:28):
some type of unforeseen you know, happening that takes place.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I mean, he's not in the he's not in.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
The most strategically sound of situations, just for all the
you know, the elements that come into play with him.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
He's older. You know, there's a lot I mean, I
won't say a lot.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Of other things, but there are things connected to him
off field in terms of what are you getting are
you going to be able to control them, whatever it
may be. I don't know what people are looking at
how they're looking at it, but it just seems as
though it could be more advantageous for him to wait
for the season to start and take a job after
that versus trying to take one.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Now I think it was Tom Pellisero reported that the
expectation is Rogers will make a decision.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
In the next few days. That it's not going to
be next few days. Yeah, not going to be something
he's going to Pittsburgh then, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Didn't Pelisaro say that earlier this season?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, but at one point you're gonna get it right,
you know, Like that's my philosophy on gambling.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
I mean, if you say in the next few days,
every few days, I mean, you know, can you be wrong.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I mean it's debatable.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
I mean, he'll make a decision here in the next
few days, you know, by a week or so. I
think we shouldn't have some sort of greater clarity or
the next month. But you know, I think Roger's decision
is going to wrap up sometime here in the next
six months.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
That's what I think, all right, Yeah, I think one
thing we can be sure of that we will see
Rogers again in the NFL this upcoming season.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
That's one thing with you. Do you think so? You're
sure of it? Oh?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
My shot there. I'm usually pretty accurate about this stuff.
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you
coming up next here. Though, in another edition of In
Case you missed it, we did have another move made
in the NFL. But is it all that everybody was
trying to make it out to be via social media
and on some other channels. We'll get into that for

(35:26):
you next here Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
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Speaker 1 (35:38):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
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from now here from the tire rack dot Com studios.
It is a foregone conclusion in the NFL. Possibly we'll
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Speaker 7 (36:19):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Good thing, the guys are here to bring you in
case you missed it.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
After that, we turned it over to our executive producer.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Lead Lapp.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning, Brady, Good
morning LeVar.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (36:40):
In case you missed this, Hey Brady, uh, guys, In
case you missed this. Stefan Diggs has now found his
third team in three years. He has signed a three
year big deal with the Patriots worth sixty nine million dollars,
including twenty six million guaranteed.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Levar's number fifty six. It's not my number six? Whoa oh,
I'm my number.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Pete Prisco had had a fun time on a social
media yesterday with this one just pointed out Diggs is
not a number one. He turns thirty two coming off
in acl other than that question mark, like it doesn't
make you want is it wrong?

Speaker 4 (37:23):
No?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
I mean, you know everyone, I think maybe there's a
reason why it took this long to get a deal done,
and so you know, it's another weapon for Drake May
and maybe there's a little bit of red ass. You know,
he's going to see the bills twice a year next year.
I don't know that this is, you know, the biggest
move in the NFL that some people are trying to
make sure to see the details.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
By the way, curious see the details of this deal
to see how much of that is is all legit.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
So but good for Drake May. I have a veteran
wide receiver.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
If he's one hundred percent healthy, he plays a factor,
no doubt about it. But you better believe Mike for
Able Santom's like, hey, you want to go back to Buffalo,
play against them twice a year, try to kick their ass,
like he's that kind of guy.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
By the way, By the way, Prisco send a tweet
out that's said the Giants QB situation gets worse by
the year. Some guy responded, so does your reporting, and
Prisco responded, my blocking skills don't see you, which I.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Mean, here's here's the here's the exact and I'll tell
Pete this. Pete tries to dish it out, he can't
take it back, and that's why.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
He just uses the block tool.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
So as much as he wants to act like that's
a win for him, and he'll probably walk in the
office and he'll be.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Like, hey, you should hear I blocked this guy.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
It's like, well, Pete, kind of like, if you got
a dish out, you gotta be able to take it.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
But that's Crisco for you.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Ah, what else we got we'll tie into this.

Speaker 8 (38:57):
Stefan Diggs might not have been the Patriots first choice
of Reportedly DK, metcalf rejected of trade, possibly to this
Patriots saying he did not want to be there. Even
though the Patriots were all in on going for DK,
no deal was offered because they were told that he
had no interest in going to Foxborough.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Wait, so he'd rather go play with like no one
else like, because I mean, look at Pittsburg right now.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
They don't have a quarterback really in this situation, and.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
You have an up and coming star in Drag Bay
and he'd rather go to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
A lot of uncertainty in New England, though, I would
take my chances more on Pittsburgh than New England right now.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
What's uncertain about him? I mean, you know who your
quarterback is, you know who your head coach.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Is, and him and at a New Hay coach, him
and AJ.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Brown are buddies. And Brabel and AJ Brown.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
I just I just don't know. I mean, if I'm
a player, I just don't know what's going to come
of it.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I don't know. He was loved in Tennessee. I mean
he a.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Doesn't mean that that's going to translate immediately to where
he's at.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
That's all. It's uncertainty.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
I mean, if they're a bad football team, it's because
the roster, it's not because of anything else.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I mean, they'll get there, you know, DK, I understand
bro enjoyed enjoy the burg Man for one two, Bro
four one two. It's all good. Be a Steeler a Steeler.
I don't know why Brady and Jonas are trying.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Is because white?

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Is that what you're saying he played for the Steelers.
Don't do it, and he's a linebacker, don't do it.

Speaker 7 (40:36):
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