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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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up on this football Recap Monday. Of course we're talking football.
It was a weird one on Sunday Night Football, and
Pete Prisco's got some thoughts on why coaches continue to
pass up on field goals and go forward on fourth down.
Plus we're gonna have a conversation about bat officiating yet again.
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We're also going to talk about the game in Atlanta
that win to overtime and a familiar voice who was
on the call for that game. Plus we've got another
edition of In case you missed it, We've got our
FSR IR and we've got the leftovers.
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What upsticks?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
What's going on? Man? Good morning?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
How we feeling?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
What up sticks? There? He is?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, hello guys.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Star of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, don't say that.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Knock them on, man U, No, that was awesome.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
There is.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Let me just say this, I let everyone down in
multiple ways this weekend. Okay, that was the worst combined
weekend of betting picks I've ever given out. It was awful,
absolutely awful, horrendous, which I kind of said to you guys.
I feel terrible about this weekend in both college and
NFL going into it, like I hated the numbers hated
(02:07):
the lines, but that was an awful weekend for me.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
As far as getting out bets, I can't tell you.
It was just terrible.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
How did Jonahs do? How do I do? How we do?
Speaker 7 (02:18):
We? You didn't do much better than me. Jonas had
one of his better weeks in a while. I think
he's above five hundred. Now really what a show?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, well you as in what you got one one better?
Oh yeah, I guess I got one closer than though.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yep, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
All right?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
So for you people, I'm sorry for you.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Q Yeah, I'm more apologizing than anyone who actually had
followed me in. If you're fading me, good job, because
it's probably worked in college football this year's.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Pain in the ass man.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Now you wonder why people that are professional handicappers and gamblers,
like now you know the anxiety they probably go through,
Like now you know, like it's just because there's people.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Those poker players.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
There's people out there that were a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Of basketball players that's playing poker. Yeah, those guys they
have that pressure on them.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
They didn't have any they're like you think hitting the
jump show glasses like that. So how was the I mean,
you got one of the better games of the day.
I would say this overall one of the better weekends
for the NFL all, I would say, probably the best
weekend of competitive games down to the wire all week
and long, and you were there on hand to see
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an overtime game, a thriller between the Panthers and the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
It was kind of wild watching the first half, thinking, Okay,
if Atlanta just continues to keep doing what they've been doing,
they really shouldn't have an issue here. And you know,
Jon Robinson didn't touch the ball much in the second half. Granted,
give Carolina's defense and credit in limiting him when he
did get it, but you know, compared to the first half,
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how many touches targets he was getting that all of
a sudden went away. And yeah, even more so than that,
the injury to Michael Pennix some big time concerns there.
He's you know, he got hurt in the Week three
matchup between these two. He ended up still playing through it,
but it was bothering him, was nagging him. And I think,
you know, if you look at their five games skid
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they're on now, some of that has kind of come
at the expense of his you know, be not be
able to move as well, and it took a few
weeks to feel more comfortable again. And yeah, and again,
like I think you kind of forget about that sometimes
once you leave the game. And I don't know, I mean,
var you probably have some injuries where you're still feeling
it to this day, but I think we also tend
to forget just what it felt like to where at
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this point of season, everyone's playing through something and it
does impact, you know, your performance, It does impact to
a certain degree or level of play.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
And you know, for.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Penis, I think that you know, this was going to
be one of his better games the way it was
it started. Unfortunately, he gets knocked out, Cousins comes in
the offense just really can't do much but a couple
of field goals and this thing goes in overtime and
Carolina just found a matchup, They found enough plays and
now they sit there at six and five. I think
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they are a half game back from Tampa and the
NFC South, which is just I don't want to say shocking,
but I think if you would have asked this, you know,
four weeks ago, five weeks ago, we always said, oh,
Tampa is a clear favorite.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Right Baker is playing like an m VP. I think
Carolina will most likely struggle. Yeah, I found and we're
going to struggle, you.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Know, and and and and you know it speaks to
this like I think you guys would probably appreciate how
Dave Canalis is. You know, he is an all around
like bring you know, bring the right attitude, bring the
right juice. You know, Tony Dungee's a big mentor of his,
and so you know, I just had the opportunity to
talk to him for a while and about personal stuff too,
and one of the things he said is like, I'm
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still gonna be a dad. I'm still gonna make sure
I get home to see all my kids stuff. And
he's like and one of the things that all the
players kept saying about him is how consistent.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
He is as as a coach as a person.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Like even though during the NFL season you kind of
that roller coach will be able to ups and downs,
he's he's just like he's the type of guy that says, hey, man,
like get your work done and get home. And you know,
this is a day and age where everything's as efficient
as it possibly can be where you don't need to
be to some of these staffs that stay there till
midnight one am, burning themselves out, never seeing their family,
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and then the next day you come in and you're
not the same coach, You're not the same guy. You know,
this staff comes in and every single day they got
the attitude, they got the juice. You know, they're bringing
the energy to that sort of environment. I think it's
one of the reasons why in a game like that
where it kind of goes back and forth and comes
down to the wire, they're just better kind of I
would say, prepared to execute and not deal with, you know,
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the concerns about what could happen if they don't win.
You know, they're trying to just the same well we
can week out. I think everyone aspires to be that.
I think they're kind of living it out right now.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Wow, the Dave Canalis Brice Young combination, because I think
a lot of people assumed based on David Tepper and
the Frank Reich experiment and just how that whole thing
has gone. It's like, all right, here's another guy that's
going to get turned and burned. Bryce Young is going
to be hurt, and then he goes out there and
he breaks the Panthers single game record held by Cam
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Newton yesterday, And I just wonder, what is the decision
going to be because they've got the fifth year option,
which I don't know if they've picked it up yet,
But what is the decision going to be long term
with Bryce Young? Because there is something there, but I
think people are going to maybe hold on to whatever
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we've seen early in his career and just think, well,
they got to go in a different direction. But he's
he shows signs of steady improvement. T Mac is awesome,
and it seems like they've got something going there. I
just wonder is this Are they ready to make any
sort of long term commitment to him at this point?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
How much more time does he have on his deal?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
So this is his third year, so they would make
a decision on the fifth year this the upcoming offseason,
which I would imagine they would pick it up, especially
if this season goes the way where they're a wildcard
team winning the division, like I would think they want
to keep building. The only thing that really I think
holds them back from making that major commitment to him
is in my opinion, just and this is not a
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knock on him. You know, I think we'd all agree
he's a smaller stature quarterback, right, Like, can we all
agree on that, you know, he's not that he doesn't
have the strongest arm in the league. Is that fair
to say we all agree on that, Like, there are
certain physical attributes he just doesn't have. And when you
see him in comparison to the other guys, when you're
down the field watching them warm up, it's noticeable. You know,
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it's noticeable watching the ball, for example, coming to Michael
Pennock's hands versus watching it come out of Bryce Young's.
And I'm sure when you have a game where you
know they played Buffalo earlier this season, you know they
they've you know they obviously you know played them. You know,
there's a number of teams that played Patriots as well,
Like there's other players that you see that are you know,
at Drake May is playing an MVP level And so
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you see the comparison between the two just and warm ups.
But I would say this, you're overlooking then football iq
the knack for playmaking ability, his overall ability to operate
within the offense and just kind of the game. I mean,
he just does some things extraordinarily well that seem overly simple.
And if they continue to build around him to give
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more help because outside of team Mac, like, can you
guys even name another receiver?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well it was Adam the Line, so then that.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Was before the season.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Yeah, But that's what I'm saying is they don't really
have a true number two option. You know, Tommy Tremble,
who I believe that was like his third reception maybe
of the season, ends up getting a catch and run
afterwards to run all the way down to set up
the game winning field goal. Like it's kind of wild
if you look through their season and how they've pieced
together some of these wins. It's been basically Rico Daldle
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running the football at Chuba Hubbard and obviously the running
backs you know, yards from scrimmage too in the passing
game t Mac, and then a compliment of other players
just pitching in. You know, imagine if he was throwing
to Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, right, imagine if he was,
you know, had that sort of personnel around him, I
would assume he'd be able to distribute, be fine. But
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he's got all the tools and the ability to make
it in this league. It's just I think they haven't
had all the pieces and they're starting to get there,
but it's not quite there yet. So I would imagine
they pick up the fifth year option and they probably
they probably keep trying to build it, you know, they
try to keep trying to build this thing around him
and see what they can turn into.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I'm done with Atlanta done. Oh wow, over it?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Wow? All right?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I just I can't.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And by the way, for them to come out and
make the move with Raheem Morris, I would imagine they
would have thought they would have been further along at
this point than they are right now with all that
talent that they've got on.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I mean, if you're looking around the league, got some
of the turnaround jobs taking place, you would think that
Atlanta would be somewhere where they'd be further along with
the talent that they have. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Well, remember last year, Carolina knocked them out of being
in the playoffs week eighteen, So they are any nine
football team, they were right there. I think there's just
a lot of frustration as they come into this season.
You know, Penix is the guy, he's the starter and
you know they've been they've been hit with a decent
amount of injuries. You know, their defense yesterday. And this
is the hard thing about calling NFL games. You know,
(11:32):
as players, you kind of see it. It's relatively simple,
like even though we want to make football sound complex, right,
we're not building rockets. Okay, this isn't this, this isn't SpaceX.
And Natron Brooks, who was a first year time starting,
second year player, he got his first start.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Well, when you have a.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Really good cornerback on the other side and AJ Trell,
they are going to pick on you until you prove
you can be good enough to be able to stop that.
And unfortunately the second the entire second half, he was
the player they went after. And it's a lonely spot
man and that's unfortunately di Alford was out, Mike Hughes
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was out. Like they already were going pretty deep into
their secondary. You know, Keith Taylor ended up being a
practic squad guy they've brought up before. He and I'm
not you know, being brought up. He had back spasmas
this week. It just it gets tough, like this time
of the season where you start losing depth and you
start losing guys to certain positions and it gets exposed
teams are gonna I mean, I can't the first drive
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Carolina comes out, goes right down the field, and every
single big play they had was targeting that player. I mean,
it's just that's that's the NFL. It's a matchup driven league.
So I'm not trying to make an excuse for him
because I know it probably feels like that. But I
do hope there's some patience because this this just feels
like an awkward year for Atlanta and they've played some
(12:56):
really good teams really close. Colts obviously took the overtime.
They were within what a point. I mean, they're not
a bad football team. They just can'tnot figure out how
to close out games.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Did the overtime impact your flight getting out of there?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Or it was unbelievable? Dude.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
I get a text with like in the third fourth
quarter that my flight's delayed, and at the time you're like,
all right, whatever, like I'll just wait at the airport
a little longer, and then as this thing's coming down
to the end, I was like, dude, such a blessing, man,
Like such a blessing that this thing ends up working
out that way, So we all ended up getting delayed
a little bit, and fortunately no one was impacted.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
By the overtime, which it was. It was a ton
of fun.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
And I'll say this that stadium, the environment they create
is so much fun. Like I know Atlanta Falcons fans
are probably waking up disappointed today, but just the entire
like amenities they have there, They the way they just
treat the crowd. I mean, they had multiple live performances.
At halftime, did an awesome country singer. Do you remember
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Ja Kwan? This song like every bought it in the club, dude.
So he he does like a one minute pregame. He
was doing like a one minute I thought it was
just an audio check and so I was like, oh,
this will be fun.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Like can't okay.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
What to see is what if he's performed at halftime
or something. And then halftime went on it was this
country guy.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I was like, huh.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
I was like, wonder when ja Quan's coming back? During
like a three minute TV time out, he came on.
He did a one minute performance, but like the entire
crowd with nuts, I mean, they got they got excited
and they kind of got back into the game, but
I kept hitting me like I wonder what he got
paid for doing that? You know, like what like, what
is what does a singer rapper get for a one
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minute in stadium live performance?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, what's that appearance feet to be?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I don't know, Vaughr, what's that appearance fee?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah? I would probably stay very low, dude.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Well, what's what's low? That's a relative.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Maybe five tens. Really that's incredible, Yeah, because it's the exposure.
It's for the exposure. So it's like more now to
kind of drive them to stream his or download his songs,
like you'll remember him, Oh I remember him. Then you
go and you research them or you look them up
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on whatever you listen to, and then you download his
album or whatever it may be. So it's generally they're
using it for for more of advertising, you know, marketing
themselves exposure.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Now, it was the atmosphere Legitimate.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Was always incredible, Okay.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
It was like people are like like standing up dancing, singing.
They were parachuting things from the roof.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
This is an organization that was punished for piping in
fake sound.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I just I just want to point that out.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
There were moments where I thought that sounds louder than
maybe it.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Actually, they felt like, there's there's a history that's a
that's a six hundred thousand dollars hourly rate, Like, can
you imagine that we'd like to hide you for a
performance for an hour?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
That's gonna be a little over half a million dollars.
That's what my hourly rate is good for him? Ten
g's for one it?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah, I mean probably like ten gs.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I doubt that they would pay him them out that
you just said for an entire like hour show.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
That's well, we don't I don't have that in the budget.
We're gonna give you a minute and we'll pay you
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
It was good how I played out.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
He got the crowd in there, man, And I'm telling
you that that stadium, that fan base.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Jonas, go ahead, the hate in your eyes, I see
the hate in your face.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, I just you know, well, I do wonder you change.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Your outfit from the show you did? Huh so you
went home and took a bath and all that stuff? Yeah, okay, baby,
ye baby, were talking about this second.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
The fact that LeVar stays up and watches your show,
that's a that's a good friend.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I think. Yeah, I study him. You're a good dude. Yeah,
I do. I do study him. I break him down.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Look, LeVar could be a big teddy bear sometimes.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Get in all of that.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
What Avar?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Yeah, no, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
We're not going to do that. I sent it to y'all. Yeah.
I sit up and I watch them and I study them.
Like I said, I broke them down. I was like,
why you keep putting your hand in your pocket. You
don't look like a professional doing it that way. And
sure enough, low and behold he took his hand out
of his pocket. Now, yeah, hold your microphone. And then
when you make your point like you're not going to
(17:28):
be holding a mic very long before you have to
say something, then you start using your hand and it
makes you look like you're intelligent. Boom done you you
you did very well.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You just got to look it, you don't actually have
to be it.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah. I think sometimes though, your way makes it kind
of awkward for your co hosts, like you kind of
come in like with the terminator turn, you know, like
the you know, kind of like very robotic.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, you know, well there's a reason for that, but
anybody that's the reason.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Oh yeah, stuff back, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No? Just yeah quarters there?
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Oh yeah, dude, that's TV. Everything looks like it's bigger
on TV.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
By the way, speaking of how cold was it and
you got your boys wearing gloves last night?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, I don't that was what's going on there?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
That was a little bit a bit much. I mean
it was mid fifties and it was raining.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Well, you've got it. It looks like a double layer
jacket on.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, that's a fake double air jacket. It's actually it's
a fake one.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
So it's just it was like, yeah, basically yeah, it's
it's like a Dicky when you got the sweater, but
it's just just the neck and then it cuts off
your chest.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's uh there's a stadium named Dicky. Really, is it
in Texas? Dickey Stadium? Yeah, it might be TCU. Maybe
I don't think it's it's definitely not TCU. That's uh
Am and g Carter, I believe. I wonder if I
feel like it's in Texas though. Dickies, you know the clothing.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Yeah, Dickey Jacob's Stadium.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Is that what it is? Dickies.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
I don't know how to pronounce the first name. But
I don't know at least see Dicky Jacob's stadium. No,
I was way off. This is in South Africa.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Oh yeah, no, yeah it's not. I didn't see it there.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Okay, my bad.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Don't worried that I didn't see it there. You know
that that was a dictat arena that was part of
the tour. Yeah, you know, like the clothing.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah yeah, no, Dickie's arena. Yeah, I found it. I
just gotta figure where this is.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, well I thought I saw it somewhere.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, you're right, dude, you're right. I think it's in
uh North Texas.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Mm hmm, what up sticks which?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
By the way, while we're talking about Texas, you do
know land Man came back last evening yesterday watching didn't
you No, I fell asleep. I fell asleep after watching football.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Football is like going to church to me, Man, pro football,
it just makes me. It's like sedative, man, and I
get tied. I get excited. I get excited watching college football.
I don't know. I can watch it all day long
on all the screens NFL, I don't It's just I
don't know, Like I take naps it's weird and don't
(20:14):
even know it. Like I fall asleep watching it, Wake
back up, fall back asleep.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's me when I watched Star Wars.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Were you guys rooting for Michigan to lose?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I was no.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I wasn't okay, No, I just was more, are they
really going to blow this?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Is this gonna I mean, you turn the ball over
that many times? I just I just assumed something crazy
it was gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Northwestern, No, man, they got they they'd be plaid. They
play ball. Man, what was the what was the out
there fighting?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Man?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Hey, what was the crowd split for that quote unquote
home game for Northwestern.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Eighty eighty five fifteen for Michigan.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I mean, honestly, the crowd out side was all Michigan too.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
I was I wasn't sure what it was going to
be like, but yeah, that was a That was a.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Home game for michiganged.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I almost pulled it though.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
What a place, man, Yeah, what a place?
Speaker 7 (21:14):
But I think I told you, like during my college years,
once Jeff Samarja or wide receiver got drafted there, I
started to become a Cubs fan in the organization. Everyone
in the organization has always been awesome. But just the experience,
the nostalgia, the history behind that that place, it's so
much fun. But I was thinking, like similar to Jones,
like I may be raising my boys up to be
(21:35):
Cubs fans.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
I hate saying that. Oh yeah, but because.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Cleveland's good and obviously I was raised like an all
Cleveland professional sports team. And I mean, var lives in LA.
He still roots back for Pittsburgh, so I guess I
could technically root for like someplace not near my home.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I still root for the Nats too.
I still root for Washington Sports. So Pittsburgh is so
as a childhood guy, you know. But I never changed
up to La a LA team. Yeah I don't. I
don't claim any of these teams.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
The only the only team I would say I'm a
fan of that I did kind of claim once I
moved there was the Panthers because when I was living
in South Florida and then when I went to those
early games, they were so bad and and you have
to you honestly can't appreciate the success like going to
three straight Stanley Cups, winning the last two. You really
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can't appreciate it unless you were there like twelve years ago.
I'm not talking when they had success. Like early on
they used to throw the rats on the on the
ice and all that. I'm saying, like sitting in the
stands laying bets with my buddies on if the T
shirt hit a seat or a fan, you know, like
they'd have the T shirt gun go by. And I
(22:52):
swear to god, we used to do odds on it
because the seats were the favorites. That's how few people
actually attended the Florida Panther. And now when you look
at that organization and then you go to one of
those games.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
It is rocking.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Like it's maybe one of the better turnarounds of sustained
success like you can we've seen in professional sports in
recent years. So I would I kind of claim it
only because I've gotten to know some of the people
in the front office and you meet the players and
everyone else, and it's like it's an awesome story. Like
I really enjoyed like watching their come up, if you will,
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Speaker 2 (23:28):
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get into, uh the same old story when it comes
(27:02):
to the NFL coming up here in just a couple
of moments from now. But right now it is time
for the tire rack play of the day. And I'm
telling you what a play it was. What a tire
rack play of the day it was yesterday in the NFL.
Just an incredible, incredible call, an incredible moment, and an
(27:25):
incredible story when it comes.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
To the NFC South and sort.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Of the way things really really shaped up in a
surprise year in which the Bucks lose at Buffalo, but
it was the Carolina Panthers getting it done.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And here it was courtesy of Fox. Right up, Las
going steps throws.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Please God to mcmillina, tux down.
Speaker 12 (27:57):
You had him twice, He had him for the first down,
he got a screen, but Billan release this up field.
He keeps his eyes on for the touchdown, watches he
works outside. Here's your first down, Nope, turns it up
as Jung scrambles.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
And this is just to be You can't put your
linebacker in that position.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Just can't.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
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Speaker 7 (28:38):
You for a I mean you're down in the red zone.
The games on the line, they leave essentially Kate Ellis,
I mean you should be bracking him with a safety.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You can't put Tech.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
McMillan one on one on one, yeah, I mean all
he did was run up, run out. He was open
there for the little on like a little quick outer
hook route for the first.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Down, and then it's like there's no help.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
I just I hate to be overly critical of like
a defensive staff, but that entire series. They were targeting
LUs too. They threw the swing screen to Doubtle to
get down to that portion of the field. That play
almost scored. I just I don't know, man, I there's
a game of adjustments too, it's matchups and adjustments. And
Carolina did a better job making the adjustments.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yes they did, and yes you are correct. And sometimes
it's as simple as knowing that there's the guy that
I mean. They did it with AJ Brown, right, It
was like a early on in the game, you could
tell that they figured that Philly was going to be
looking for a J. Brown and they were bracket coverage
covering him and making it difficult for them to feed
(29:47):
him the ball. So yeah, I think when you have
those types of moments and it shows that that's what
they're doing and that's what they're trying to lean into you,
you definitely make those adjustments. But give credit where credit
is due, man. Carolina is a much, like we said,
a better team than what probably most people have given
them any credit of of becoming or being this season.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You mentioned AJ Brown. The Eagles just play weird games, man, Like,
they just seemingly play weird games. Last night was a
weird game. The tush push was actually stopped a couple
of times, which which was interesting.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I like what they did. I mean it's it's a
little bit of gambling, but you know it worked. I
mean it's Dan Campbell, Nick Sirianni. Of course they're going
to gamble.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I mean they're they're out there, you know, going for
fourth down at a rapid clip Detroit.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
They left a lot on the table in that game, man, Yeah,
it was left a lot on the table.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And then you know the wind, the elements. All that
being said, Uh, the pass interference call game, I thought that.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Was a horrible, trocious Yeah, I thought that was a
horrible I can't believe that.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
They're getting a ticky tack on some of these calls now,
even some of these holding calls, and I just I
don't know what it is.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I'm not sure if it's a directive of the NFL.
And there's way too many flies.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
I mean, that call at that moment in time was
I mean, it was so critical to that game's outcome.
It was very critical. That's a tough call. I mean
he did have a hold of his hand, but I
mean they were both kind of they were both wrestling
for the space. I didn't see anything egregious at the
(31:27):
top of the route, you know, when he went into
his next move. I mean, there was nothing that said
that in that moment. You call that like, no way,
But you know, I look at it like this. I
watched tackles and not the position, but yes, the position.
I watched guys get tackled pretty much on defense almost
(31:50):
every play, almost every play. So in reality, again, if
you're not regulating these plays on every single down, like
this offside thing now is becoming a weird thing, like
where somebody moves and then the defense jumps up and
they start pointing their hand is going across the ball
(32:10):
that makes them offside, but they don't do anything, and
then they let the play continue on. I mean that's
becoming a little bit of a little trend as well.
But I just you know, you could call You could
call a foul on every play, you really could, like
I saw. I don't want to ask Dean Blandino about
it too. Like the tight end from Pittsburgh, I mean,
(32:33):
he punched the dude. Oh bro, he punched the dude
down to the ground with his stiff arm, then put
his head down to run through the next dude and
then target it the next dude.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Hit the dude in his head like.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
He sent him five yards.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Brouh Hey, by the way, the game you called Brady
Tommy Tremble had a good grip of a face mask,
like he got his money's worth going down the sideline there, dude.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
You know what I'm not.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
I hate that this is happening. I've brought to bring
this up. Guys are kind of flopping out there. They're
they're they're they're acting a bit as to how to draw.
Then they know how to draw a flag. It could
be a holding call, offense, defense, whatever the case is.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Like, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of
acting going on and it is.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
Drawing some flags where like you see the reaction from
the player and they look back at the rep reps like, yep, that.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Was that was that was a foul, that was a penalty.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
I'm like, I don't know, it's I hate that that's
creeping its way into the NFL because the officials are
falling for man.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Geez, I have been distracted Brady Quinn, I know, I uh,
this is what he.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Was on track though. One of those games, Yes, please
do well.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
I'm just asking, is that one of those games that
makes you think differently about the Lions, like like they're
ultimately their chances because because there's at times you watch
them and you see Gibbs and you see his explosive.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
He's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It's just the floor for Jared Goff is still there
to where.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
There's games that he has that look like that, and
then there's other games where he's, you know, one of
the better quarterbacks in the league. But it just when
he's bad, it's real bad.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
But that that pressure, bro, Like, here's what I came
away with from that game is if you cannot deal
with the front four of that Philadelphia defense and then
they start sprinkling in the Kobe Dean and those other
guys from from the outsides and moving them around the linebackers,
(34:42):
if you can't deal with that pressure, you're going to
miss a lot of plays. And to that point, not
only are you talking about the amount of pressure that
they're putting on you, but they're big. They're big as hell,
and they're putting their hands up like they have gotten
into a really, really good rhythm of being able to
get in front of the quarterback. And put their hands
(35:04):
up and they get a lot of they get a
lot of tips. That is a very very understated, underappreciated
technique for defensive linemen. You very rarely see defensive linemen
get their hands up to make it harder for the
quarterbacks to throw the ball. They do it. So I'm
not going I'm not going to look at at this
(35:26):
Detroit offense and say, like, man, they weren't good enough,
because they weren't. But I look at it like the
Philadelphia Eagles defense is neutralizing people so seriously up front,
and they are creating so many issues for time, like
he just didn't have time. And to me, I think
(35:49):
that that was the key. They weren't able to slow
it down. They weren't able to get golf into a
comfortable rhythm or just comfort period of getting his feet
set and trying to throw the ball. Like give give
Philly credit for bringing the type of defense that makes
it very difficult for an offense to have any type
of like rhythm or or you know, like breathe, Like
(36:11):
give me some time to breathe. They're pretty good, man.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
We don't have much time for it.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
Now.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I've got questions about both quarterbacks, because some doesn't look right.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
With Hurts, it just it just doesn't.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
And with GoF when they're at home, it's I feel
like he's lights out when they're not.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Different story. And I know, again to your point, I
agree with you.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
The Eagles defense is legit, the roster's legit, the whole thing,
But there is something to that.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I feel like if you look at.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
Just his play on the road versus at home, and
you probably hold that about a lot of quarterbacks, but
for what they need him to be, like, he's got
to be better when they're not in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, it was not a not a good performance, but
Philly somehow, some way keeps on when and keeps.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
On winning in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
And with that loss, I don't know if you guys
saw the news, but your Chicago Bears are in first
place in the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It's one point.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Here we go, where you get out. I mean, here
we go worst first place. I'll let you have it.
I had a wonderful time in Chicago. I love that city.
It's my favorite city. I mean, New York's New York
it's awesome, but I just Chicago's It's a great city. Man.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, Yeah, it's my favorite man, can't I can't wait
to get back there. And plus, you know you spend
a lot of time. There's always good to go back
and see your ax.
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Speaker 6 (39:00):
Guys, thanks for having me today Monday morning. What raining
super happy? Let's go, Yeah. Jacoby Brissette makes history today, guys.
Elite quarterback play from the Arizona Cardinals starting quarterback. He
actually threw forty seven passes, actually through fifty seven passes
(39:20):
and completed forty seven passes, only missing ten out of
the fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
He makes NFL.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
History being the first to hit that mark.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
What do you guys think?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I think it's probably over for Kyler Murray in Arizona.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
That's probably don't have don't have Pete Prisco on because
they'll just you know, oh, that's right, he'll just take
a dig in for that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
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Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, Yeah, Prisco's wrong, he's not a he was. He
was laying into Jacoby Brissett last week.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
The all what y'all, Ah, what y'all?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
They stink?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, the Cardinals state, Yeah, they're not.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
What happened to them?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Bar uh, Well, it would have to happen for something
to happen. It just they're the team that never they
never happened. They were they were formed, Yeah, they never,
it never happened. You know. That's what I would say.
(40:23):
Can't prove anything happened because there's nothing to happen. There's
no event or no occurrence that that for anything, for
anything to have happened.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Just are they just are you guys still there though? Right?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Jesse's at the house right now, is he? Yeah, I'm
in kJ handler Handler. Yeah, I'm glad he got out
of there, that got healthy. Got a couple of couple
opportunities coming his way, so hopefully it works out for him. Yeah,
the Cardinals, you know, I knew it wasn't going to
be the quarterback. That That's why I was sitting there.
(40:57):
I'm like, they're better when Kyler Murray is playing at
a high level. Its just that doesn't happen often, Like
it's not for long periods of time lately. So that
knew day it wasn't going to be briset that brought
him back and made them this amazing team.
Speaker 7 (41:13):
Jonas, If Kyler is not playing, what is he doing?
You think if he's not playing.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Oh, I probably did taking a nap and a shot glass.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
That would be my stupid Uh he can fit in
the side glass.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Yeah, please, Jonah. What else would he be doing?
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I mean there's you know, all sorts of stuff streaming
on live streaming gaming.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I mean yeah, who knows, maybe opened up, you know,
like a Twitter account and started firing off stuff, you know,
middle out of nowhere, like maybe.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
There was that I got x'es shooting or currents.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Or sides. I don't know, but yeah, he's you know,
he'll be Kyler Murray. That's messy, bro, You messy Cayler Murray,
real messy. It's entertaining as hell, though, but it is
it is is very messy.
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Yeah, it plays out if you're paying attention. Geez, unbelievable, man,
It's just utterly unbelievable. Yeah.
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What's going on? Man? Good morning?
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What up sticks? There? He is?
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Well, hello guys.
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Star of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, don't say that.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Knock them on, man U, No, that was awesome.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
There is.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Let me just say this, I let everyone down in
multiple ways this weekend. Okay, that was the worst combined
weekend of betting picks I've ever given out. It was awful,
absolutely awful, horrendous, which I kind of said to you guys.
I feel terrible about this weekend in both college and
NFL going into it, like I hated the numbers hated
(02:07):
the lines, but that was an awful weekend for me.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
As far as getting out bets, I can't tell you.
It was just terrible.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
How did Jonahs do? How do I do? How we do?
Speaker 7 (02:18):
We? You didn't do much better than me. Jonas had
one of his better weeks in a while. I think
he's above five hundred. Now really what a show?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, well you as in what you got one one better?
Oh yeah, I guess I got one closer than though.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yep, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
How about that?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
All right?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
So for you people, I'm sorry for you.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Q Yeah, I'm more apologizing than anyone who actually had
followed me in. If you're fading me, good job, because
it's probably worked in college football this year's.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Pain in the ass man.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Now you wonder why people that are professional handicappers and gamblers,
like now you know the anxiety they probably go through,
Like now you know, like it's just because there's people.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Those poker players.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
There's people out there that were a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Of basketball players that's playing poker. Yeah, those guys they
have that pressure on them.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
They didn't have any they're like you think hitting the
jump show glasses like that. So how was the I mean,
you got one of the better games of the day.
I would say this overall one of the better weekends
for the NFL all, I would say, probably the best
weekend of competitive games down to the wire all week
and long, and you were there on hand to see
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an overtime game, a thriller between the Panthers and the Falcons.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
It was kind of wild watching the first half, thinking, Okay,
if Atlanta just continues to keep doing what they've been doing,
they really shouldn't have an issue here. And you know,
Jon Robinson didn't touch the ball much in the second half. Granted,
give Carolina's defense and credit in limiting him when he
did get it, but you know, compared to the first half,
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how many touches targets he was getting that all of
a sudden went away. And yeah, even more so than that,
the injury to Michael Pennix some big time concerns there.
He's you know, he got hurt in the Week three
matchup between these two. He ended up still playing through it,
but it was bothering him, was nagging him. And I think,
you know, if you look at their five games skid
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they're on now, some of that has kind of come
at the expense of his you know, be not be
able to move as well, and it took a few
weeks to feel more comfortable again. And yeah, and again,
like I think you kind of forget about that sometimes
once you leave the game. And I don't know, I mean,
var you probably have some injuries where you're still feeling
it to this day, but I think we also tend
to forget just what it felt like to where at
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this point of season, everyone's playing through something and it
does impact, you know, your performance, It does impact to
a certain degree or level of play.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
And you know, for.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Penis, I think that you know, this was going to
be one of his better games the way it was
it started. Unfortunately, he gets knocked out, Cousins comes in
the offense just really can't do much but a couple
of field goals and this thing goes in overtime and
Carolina just found a matchup, They found enough plays and
now they sit there at six and five. I think
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they are a half game back from Tampa and the
NFC South, which is just I don't want to say shocking,
but I think if you would have asked this, you know,
four weeks ago, five weeks ago, we always said, oh,
Tampa is a clear favorite.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Right Baker is playing like an m VP. I think
Carolina will most likely struggle. Yeah, I found and we're
going to struggle, you.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Know, and and and and you know it speaks to
this like I think you guys would probably appreciate how
Dave Canalis is. You know, he is an all around
like bring you know, bring the right attitude, bring the
right juice. You know, Tony Dungee's a big mentor of his,
and so you know, I just had the opportunity to
talk to him for a while and about personal stuff too,
and one of the things he said is like, I'm
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still gonna be a dad. I'm still gonna make sure
I get home to see all my kids stuff. And
he's like and one of the things that all the
players kept saying about him is how consistent.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
He is as as a coach as a person.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Like even though during the NFL season you kind of
that roller coach will be able to ups and downs,
he's he's just like he's the type of guy that says, hey, man,
like get your work done and get home. And you know,
this is a day and age where everything's as efficient
as it possibly can be where you don't need to
be to some of these staffs that stay there till
midnight one am, burning themselves out, never seeing their family,
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and then the next day you come in and you're
not the same coach, You're not the same guy. You know,
this staff comes in and every single day they got
the attitude, they got the juice. You know, they're bringing
the energy to that sort of environment. I think it's
one of the reasons why in a game like that
where it kind of goes back and forth and comes
down to the wire, they're just better kind of I
would say, prepared to execute and not deal with, you know,
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the concerns about what could happen if they don't win.
You know, they're trying to just the same well we
can week out. I think everyone aspires to be that.
I think they're kind of living it out right now.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Wow, the Dave Canalis Brice Young combination, because I think
a lot of people assumed based on David Tepper and
the Frank Reich experiment and just how that whole thing
has gone. It's like, all right, here's another guy that's
going to get turned and burned. Bryce Young is going
to be hurt, and then he goes out there and
he breaks the Panthers single game record held by Cam
(07:14):
Newton yesterday, And I just wonder, what is the decision
going to be because they've got the fifth year option,
which I don't know if they've picked it up yet,
But what is the decision going to be long term
with Bryce Young? Because there is something there, but I
think people are going to maybe hold on to whatever
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we've seen early in his career and just think, well,
they got to go in a different direction. But he's
he shows signs of steady improvement. T Mac is awesome,
and it seems like they've got something going there. I
just wonder is this Are they ready to make any
sort of long term commitment to him at this point?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
How much more time does he have on his deal?
Speaker 7 (07:56):
So this is his third year, so they would make
a decision on the fifth year this the upcoming offseason,
which I would imagine they would pick it up, especially
if this season goes the way where they're a wildcard
team winning the division, like I would think they want
to keep building. The only thing that really I think
holds them back from making that major commitment to him
is in my opinion, just and this is not a
(08:19):
knock on him. You know, I think we'd all agree
he's a smaller stature quarterback, right, Like, can we all
agree on that, you know, he's not that he doesn't
have the strongest arm in the league. Is that fair
to say we all agree on that, Like, there are
certain physical attributes he just doesn't have. And when you
see him in comparison to the other guys, when you're
down the field watching them warm up, it's noticeable. You know,
(08:43):
it's noticeable watching the ball, for example, coming to Michael
Pennock's hands versus watching it come out of Bryce Young's.
And I'm sure when you have a game where you
know they played Buffalo earlier this season, you know they
they've you know they obviously you know played them. You know,
there's a number of teams that played Patriots as well,
Like there's other players that you see that are you know,
at Drake May is playing an MVP level And so
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you see the comparison between the two just and warm ups.
But I would say this, you're overlooking then football iq
the knack for playmaking ability, his overall ability to operate
within the offense and just kind of the game. I mean,
he just does some things extraordinarily well that seem overly simple.
And if they continue to build around him to give
(09:25):
more help because outside of team Mac, like, can you
guys even name another receiver?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well it was Adam the Line, so then that.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Was before the season.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Yeah, But that's what I'm saying is they don't really
have a true number two option. You know, Tommy Tremble,
who I believe that was like his third reception maybe
of the season, ends up getting a catch and run
afterwards to run all the way down to set up
the game winning field goal. Like it's kind of wild
if you look through their season and how they've pieced
together some of these wins. It's been basically Rico Daldle
(09:58):
running the football at Chuba Hubbard and obviously the running
backs you know, yards from scrimmage too in the passing
game t Mac, and then a compliment of other players
just pitching in. You know, imagine if he was throwing
to Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, right, imagine if he was,
you know, had that sort of personnel around him, I
would assume he'd be able to distribute, be fine. But
(10:19):
he's got all the tools and the ability to make
it in this league. It's just I think they haven't
had all the pieces and they're starting to get there,
but it's not quite there yet. So I would imagine
they pick up the fifth year option and they probably
they probably keep trying to build it, you know, they
try to keep trying to build this thing around him
and see what they can turn into.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I'm done with Atlanta done. Oh wow, over it?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Wow? All right?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I just I can't.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And by the way, for them to come out and
make the move with Raheem Morris, I would imagine they
would have thought they would have been further along at
this point than they are right now with all that
talent that they've got on.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I mean, if you're looking around the league, got some
of the turnaround jobs taking place, you would think that
Atlanta would be somewhere where they'd be further along with
the talent that they have. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
Well, remember last year, Carolina knocked them out of being
in the playoffs week eighteen, So they are any nine
football team, they were right there. I think there's just
a lot of frustration as they come into this season.
You know, Penix is the guy, he's the starter and
you know they've been they've been hit with a decent
amount of injuries. You know, their defense yesterday. And this
is the hard thing about calling NFL games. You know,
(11:32):
as players, you kind of see it. It's relatively simple,
like even though we want to make football sound complex, right,
we're not building rockets. Okay, this isn't this, this isn't SpaceX.
And Natron Brooks, who was a first year time starting,
second year player, he got his first start.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Well, when you have a.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Really good cornerback on the other side and AJ Trell,
they are going to pick on you until you prove
you can be good enough to be able to stop that.
And unfortunately the second the entire second half, he was
the player they went after. And it's a lonely spot
man and that's unfortunately di Alford was out, Mike Hughes
(12:12):
was out. Like they already were going pretty deep into
their secondary. You know, Keith Taylor ended up being a
practic squad guy they've brought up before. He and I'm
not you know, being brought up. He had back spasmas
this week. It just it gets tough, like this time
of the season where you start losing depth and you
start losing guys to certain positions and it gets exposed
teams are gonna I mean, I can't the first drive
(12:35):
Carolina comes out, goes right down the field, and every
single big play they had was targeting that player. I mean,
it's just that's that's the NFL. It's a matchup driven league.
So I'm not trying to make an excuse for him
because I know it probably feels like that. But I
do hope there's some patience because this this just feels
like an awkward year for Atlanta and they've played some
(12:56):
really good teams really close. Colts obviously took the overtime.
They were within what a point. I mean, they're not
a bad football team. They just can'tnot figure out how
to close out games.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Did the overtime impact your flight getting out of there?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Or it was unbelievable? Dude.
Speaker 7 (13:13):
I get a text with like in the third fourth
quarter that my flight's delayed, and at the time you're like,
all right, whatever, like I'll just wait at the airport
a little longer, and then as this thing's coming down
to the end, I was like, dude, such a blessing, man,
Like such a blessing that this thing ends up working
out that way, So we all ended up getting delayed
a little bit, and fortunately no one was impacted.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
By the overtime, which it was. It was a ton
of fun.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
And I'll say this that stadium, the environment they create
is so much fun. Like I know Atlanta Falcons fans
are probably waking up disappointed today, but just the entire
like amenities they have there, They the way they just
treat the crowd. I mean, they had multiple live performances.
At halftime, did an awesome country singer. Do you remember
(13:56):
Ja Kwan? This song like every bought it in the club, dude.
So he he does like a one minute pregame. He
was doing like a one minute I thought it was
just an audio check and so I was like, oh,
this will be fun.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Like can't okay.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
What to see is what if he's performed at halftime
or something. And then halftime went on it was this
country guy.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I was like, huh.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
I was like, wonder when ja Quan's coming back? During
like a three minute TV time out, he came on.
He did a one minute performance, but like the entire
crowd with nuts, I mean, they got they got excited
and they kind of got back into the game, but
I kept hitting me like I wonder what he got
paid for doing that? You know, like what like, what
is what does a singer rapper get for a one
(14:36):
minute in stadium live performance?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, what's that appearance feet to be?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I don't know, Vaughr, what's that appearance fee?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah? I would probably stay very low, dude.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Well, what's what's low? That's a relative.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Maybe five tens. Really that's incredible, Yeah, because it's the exposure.
It's for the exposure. So it's like more now to
kind of drive them to stream his or download his songs,
like you'll remember him, Oh I remember him. Then you
go and you research them or you look them up
(15:10):
on whatever you listen to, and then you download his
album or whatever it may be. So it's generally they're
using it for for more of advertising, you know, marketing
themselves exposure.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Now, it was the atmosphere Legitimate.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Was always incredible, Okay.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
It was like people are like like standing up dancing, singing.
They were parachuting things from the roof.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
This is an organization that was punished for piping in
fake sound.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I just I just want to point that out.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
There were moments where I thought that sounds louder than
maybe it.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Actually, they felt like, there's there's a history that's a
that's a six hundred thousand dollars hourly rate, Like, can
you imagine that we'd like to hide you for a
performance for an hour?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
That's gonna be a little over half a million dollars.
That's what my hourly rate is good for him? Ten
g's for one it?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah, I mean probably like ten gs.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I doubt that they would pay him them out that
you just said for an entire like hour show.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
That's well, we don't I don't have that in the budget.
We're gonna give you a minute and we'll pay you
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
It was good how I played out.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
He got the crowd in there, man, And I'm telling
you that that stadium, that fan base.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Jonas, go ahead, the hate in your eyes, I see
the hate in your face.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, I just you know, well, I do wonder you change.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Your outfit from the show you did? Huh so you
went home and took a bath and all that stuff? Yeah, okay, baby,
ye baby, were talking about this second.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
The fact that LeVar stays up and watches your show,
that's a that's a good friend.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I think. Yeah, I study him. You're a good dude. Yeah,
I do. I do study him. I break him down.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Look, LeVar could be a big teddy bear sometimes.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Get in all of that.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
What Avar?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Yeah, no, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
We're not going to do that. I sent it to y'all. Yeah.
I sit up and I watch them and I study them.
Like I said, I broke them down. I was like,
why you keep putting your hand in your pocket. You
don't look like a professional doing it that way. And
sure enough, low and behold he took his hand out
of his pocket. Now, yeah, hold your microphone. And then
when you make your point like you're not going to
(17:28):
be holding a mic very long before you have to
say something, then you start using your hand and it
makes you look like you're intelligent. Boom done you you
you did very well.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You just got to look it, you don't actually have
to be it.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah. I think sometimes though, your way makes it kind
of awkward for your co hosts, like you kind of
come in like with the terminator turn, you know, like
the you know, kind of like very robotic.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, you know, well there's a reason for that, but
anybody that's the reason.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Oh yeah, stuff back, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No? Just yeah quarters there?
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Oh yeah, dude, that's TV. Everything looks like it's bigger
on TV.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
By the way, speaking of how cold was it and
you got your boys wearing gloves last night?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, I don't that was what's going on there?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
That was a little bit a bit much. I mean
it was mid fifties and it was raining.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Well, you've got it. It looks like a double layer
jacket on.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, that's a fake double air jacket. It's actually it's
a fake one.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
So it's just it was like, yeah, basically yeah, it's
it's like a Dicky when you got the sweater, but
it's just just the neck and then it cuts off
your chest.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's uh there's a stadium named Dicky. Really, is it
in Texas? Dickey Stadium? Yeah, it might be TCU. Maybe
I don't think it's it's definitely not TCU. That's uh
Am and g Carter, I believe. I wonder if I
feel like it's in Texas though. Dickies, you know the clothing.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Yeah, Dickey Jacob's Stadium.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Is that what it is? Dickies.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
I don't know how to pronounce the first name. But
I don't know at least see Dicky Jacob's stadium. No,
I was way off. This is in South Africa.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Oh yeah, no, yeah it's not. I didn't see it there.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Okay, my bad.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Don't worried that I didn't see it there. You know
that that was a dictat arena that was part of
the tour. Yeah, you know, like the clothing.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah yeah, no, Dickie's arena. Yeah, I found it. I
just gotta figure where this is.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah, well I thought I saw it somewhere.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, you're right, dude, you're right. I think it's in
uh North Texas.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Mm hmm, what up sticks which?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
By the way, while we're talking about Texas, you do
know land Man came back last evening yesterday watching didn't
you No, I fell asleep. I fell asleep after watching football.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Football is like going to church to me, Man, pro football,
it just makes me. It's like sedative, man, and I
get tied. I get excited. I get excited watching college football.
I don't know. I can watch it all day long
on all the screens NFL, I don't It's just I
don't know, Like I take naps it's weird and don't
(20:14):
even know it. Like I fall asleep watching it, Wake
back up, fall back asleep.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's me when I watched Star Wars.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Were you guys rooting for Michigan to lose?
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I was no.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I wasn't okay, No, I just was more, are they
really going to blow this?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Is this gonna I mean, you turn the ball over
that many times? I just I just assumed something crazy
it was gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Northwestern, No, man, they got they they'd be plaid. They
play ball. Man, what was the what was the out
there fighting?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Man?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Hey, what was the crowd split for that quote unquote
home game for Northwestern.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
Eighty eighty five fifteen for Michigan.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I mean, honestly, the crowd out side was all Michigan too.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
I was I wasn't sure what it was going to
be like, but yeah, that was a That was a.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Home game for michiganged.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I almost pulled it though.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
What a place, man, Yeah, what a place?
Speaker 7 (21:14):
But I think I told you, like during my college years,
once Jeff Samarja or wide receiver got drafted there, I
started to become a Cubs fan in the organization. Everyone
in the organization has always been awesome. But just the experience,
the nostalgia, the history behind that that place, it's so
much fun. But I was thinking, like similar to Jones,
like I may be raising my boys up to be
(21:35):
Cubs fans.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
I hate saying that. Oh yeah, but because.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Cleveland's good and obviously I was raised like an all
Cleveland professional sports team. And I mean, var lives in LA.
He still roots back for Pittsburgh, so I guess I
could technically root for like someplace not near my home.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I still root for the Nats too.
I still root for Washington Sports. So Pittsburgh is so
as a childhood guy, you know. But I never changed
up to La a LA team. Yeah I don't. I
don't claim any of these teams.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
The only the only team I would say I'm a
fan of that I did kind of claim once I
moved there was the Panthers because when I was living
in South Florida and then when I went to those
early games, they were so bad and and you have
to you honestly can't appreciate the success like going to
three straight Stanley Cups, winning the last two. You really
(22:31):
can't appreciate it unless you were there like twelve years ago.
I'm not talking when they had success. Like early on
they used to throw the rats on the on the
ice and all that. I'm saying, like sitting in the
stands laying bets with my buddies on if the T
shirt hit a seat or a fan, you know, like
they'd have the T shirt gun go by. And I
(22:52):
swear to god, we used to do odds on it
because the seats were the favorites. That's how few people
actually attended the Florida Panther. And now when you look
at that organization and then you go to one of
those games.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
It is rocking.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Like it's maybe one of the better turnarounds of sustained
success like you can we've seen in professional sports in
recent years. So I would I kind of claim it
only because I've gotten to know some of the people
in the front office and you meet the players and
everyone else, and it's like it's an awesome story. Like
I really enjoyed like watching their come up, if you will,
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from what they order where they are now.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, at least they're winning, you know.
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continue on our after show called over Promised.
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the way, so maybe we'll go at it even a
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Speaker 3 (26:40):
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of Joe Fox Sports Radio, Leaviar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you here. Uh so we are going to
get into, uh the same old story when it comes
(27:02):
to the NFL coming up here in just a couple
of moments from now. But right now it is time
for the tire rack play of the day. And I'm
telling you what a play it was. What a tire
rack play of the day it was yesterday in the NFL.
Just an incredible, incredible call, an incredible moment, and an
(27:25):
incredible story when it comes.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
To the NFC South and sort.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Of the way things really really shaped up in a
surprise year in which the Bucks lose at Buffalo, but
it was the Carolina Panthers getting it done.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And here it was courtesy of Fox. Right up, Las
going steps throws.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Please God to mcmillina, tux down.
Speaker 12 (27:57):
You had him twice, He had him for the first down,
he got a screen, but Billan release this up field.
He keeps his eyes on for the touchdown, watches he
works outside. Here's your first down, Nope, turns it up
as Jung scrambles.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
And this is just to be You can't put your
linebacker in that position.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Just can't.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
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Speaker 7 (28:38):
You for a I mean you're down in the red zone.
The games on the line, they leave essentially Kate Ellis,
I mean you should be bracking him with a safety.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
You can't put Tech.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
McMillan one on one on one, yeah, I mean all
he did was run up, run out. He was open
there for the little on like a little quick outer
hook route for the first.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Down, and then it's like there's no help.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
I just I hate to be overly critical of like
a defensive staff, but that entire series. They were targeting
LUs too. They threw the swing screen to Doubtle to
get down to that portion of the field. That play
almost scored. I just I don't know, man, I there's
a game of adjustments too, it's matchups and adjustments. And
Carolina did a better job making the adjustments.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yes they did, and yes you are correct. And sometimes
it's as simple as knowing that there's the guy that
I mean. They did it with AJ Brown, right, It
was like a early on in the game, you could
tell that they figured that Philly was going to be
looking for a J. Brown and they were bracket coverage
covering him and making it difficult for them to feed
(29:47):
him the ball. So yeah, I think when you have
those types of moments and it shows that that's what
they're doing and that's what they're trying to lean into you,
you definitely make those adjustments. But give credit where credit
is due, man. Carolina is a much, like we said,
a better team than what probably most people have given
them any credit of of becoming or being this season.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You mentioned AJ Brown. The Eagles just play weird games, man, Like,
they just seemingly play weird games. Last night was a
weird game. The tush push was actually stopped a couple
of times, which which was interesting.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I like what they did. I mean it's it's a
little bit of gambling, but you know it worked. I
mean it's Dan Campbell, Nick Sirianni. Of course they're going
to gamble.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I mean they're they're out there, you know, going for
fourth down at a rapid clip Detroit.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
They left a lot on the table in that game, man, Yeah,
it was left a lot on the table.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And then you know the wind, the elements. All that
being said, Uh, the pass interference call game, I thought that.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Was a horrible, trocious Yeah, I thought that was a
horrible I can't believe that.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
They're getting a ticky tack on some of these calls now,
even some of these holding calls, and I just I
don't know what it is.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I'm not sure if it's a directive of the NFL.
And there's way too many flies.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
I mean, that call at that moment in time was
I mean, it was so critical to that game's outcome.
It was very critical. That's a tough call. I mean
he did have a hold of his hand, but I
mean they were both kind of they were both wrestling
for the space. I didn't see anything egregious at the
(31:27):
top of the route, you know, when he went into
his next move. I mean, there was nothing that said
that in that moment. You call that like, no way,
But you know, I look at it like this. I
watched tackles and not the position, but yes, the position.
I watched guys get tackled pretty much on defense almost
(31:50):
every play, almost every play. So in reality, again, if
you're not regulating these plays on every single down, like
this offside thing now is becoming a weird thing, like
where somebody moves and then the defense jumps up and
they start pointing their hand is going across the ball
(32:10):
that makes them offside, but they don't do anything, and
then they let the play continue on. I mean that's
becoming a little bit of a little trend as well.
But I just you know, you could call You could
call a foul on every play, you really could, like
I saw. I don't want to ask Dean Blandino about
it too. Like the tight end from Pittsburgh, I mean,
(32:33):
he punched the dude. Oh bro, he punched the dude
down to the ground with his stiff arm, then put
his head down to run through the next dude and
then target it the next dude.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Hit the dude in his head like.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
He sent him five yards.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Brouh Hey, by the way, the game you called Brady
Tommy Tremble had a good grip of a face mask,
like he got his money's worth going down the sideline there, dude.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
You know what I'm not.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
I hate that this is happening. I've brought to bring
this up. Guys are kind of flopping out there. They're
they're they're they're acting a bit as to how to draw.
Then they know how to draw a flag. It could
be a holding call, offense, defense, whatever the case is.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Like, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of
acting going on and it is.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
Drawing some flags where like you see the reaction from
the player and they look back at the rep reps like, yep, that.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Was that was that was a foul, that was a penalty.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
I'm like, I don't know, it's I hate that that's
creeping its way into the NFL because the officials are
falling for man.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Geez, I have been distracted Brady Quinn, I know, I uh,
this is what he.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Was on track though. One of those games, Yes, please
do well.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
I'm just asking, is that one of those games that
makes you think differently about the Lions, like like they're
ultimately their chances because because there's at times you watch
them and you see Gibbs and you see his explosive.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
He's so good.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It's just the floor for Jared Goff is still there
to where.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
There's games that he has that look like that, and
then there's other games where he's, you know, one of
the better quarterbacks in the league. But it just when
he's bad, it's real bad.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
But that that pressure, bro, Like, here's what I came
away with from that game is if you cannot deal
with the front four of that Philadelphia defense and then
they start sprinkling in the Kobe Dean and those other
guys from from the outsides and moving them around the linebackers,
(34:42):
if you can't deal with that pressure, you're going to
miss a lot of plays. And to that point, not
only are you talking about the amount of pressure that
they're putting on you, but they're big. They're big as hell,
and they're putting their hands up like they have gotten
into a really, really good rhythm of being able to
get in front of the quarterback. And put their hands
(35:04):
up and they get a lot of they get a
lot of tips. That is a very very understated, underappreciated
technique for defensive linemen. You very rarely see defensive linemen
get their hands up to make it harder for the
quarterbacks to throw the ball. They do it. So I'm
not going I'm not going to look at at this
(35:26):
Detroit offense and say, like, man, they weren't good enough,
because they weren't. But I look at it like the
Philadelphia Eagles defense is neutralizing people so seriously up front,
and they are creating so many issues for time, like
he just didn't have time. And to me, I think
(35:49):
that that was the key. They weren't able to slow
it down. They weren't able to get golf into a
comfortable rhythm or just comfort period of getting his feet
set and trying to throw the ball. Like give give
Philly credit for bringing the type of defense that makes
it very difficult for an offense to have any type
of like rhythm or or you know, like breathe, Like
(36:11):
give me some time to breathe. They're pretty good, man.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
We don't have much time for it.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
Now.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I've got questions about both quarterbacks, because some doesn't look right.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
With Hurts, it just it just doesn't.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
And with GoF when they're at home, it's I feel
like he's lights out when they're not.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Different story. And I know, again to your point, I
agree with you.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
The Eagles defense is legit, the roster's legit, the whole thing,
But there is something to that.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I feel like if you look at.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
Just his play on the road versus at home, and
you probably hold that about a lot of quarterbacks, but
for what they need him to be, like, he's got
to be better when they're not in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, it was not a not a good performance, but
Philly somehow, some way keeps on when and keeps.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
On winning in the NFC.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
And with that loss, I don't know if you guys
saw the news, but your Chicago Bears are in first
place in the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It's one point.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Here we go, where you get out. I mean, here
we go worst first place. I'll let you have it.
I had a wonderful time in Chicago. I love that city.
It's my favorite city. I mean, New York's New York
it's awesome, but I just Chicago's It's a great city. Man.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, Yeah, it's my favorite man, can't I can't wait
to get back there. And plus, you know you spend
a lot of time. There's always good to go back
and see your ax.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
For some people, well oh oh oh.
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Speaker 2 (38:23):
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Speaker 1 (38:54):
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Speaker 6 (39:00):
Guys, thanks for having me today Monday morning. What raining
super happy? Let's go, Yeah. Jacoby Brissette makes history today, guys.
Elite quarterback play from the Arizona Cardinals starting quarterback. He
actually threw forty seven passes, actually through fifty seven passes
(39:20):
and completed forty seven passes, only missing ten out of
the fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
He makes NFL.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
History being the first to hit that mark.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
What do you guys think?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I think it's probably over for Kyler Murray in Arizona.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
That's probably don't have don't have Pete Prisco on because
they'll just you know, oh, that's right, he'll just take
a dig in for that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, Yeah, Prisco's wrong, he's not a he was. He
was laying into Jacoby Brissett last week.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
The all what y'all, Ah, what y'all?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
They stink?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, the Cardinals state, Yeah, they're not.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
What happened to them?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Bar uh, Well, it would have to happen for something
to happen. It just they're the team that never they
never happened. They were they were formed, Yeah, they never,
it never happened. You know. That's what I would say.
(40:23):
Can't prove anything happened because there's nothing to happen. There's
no event or no occurrence that that for anything, for
anything to have happened.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Just are they just are you guys still there though? Right?
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Jesse's at the house right now, is he? Yeah, I'm
in kJ handler Handler. Yeah, I'm glad he got out
of there, that got healthy. Got a couple of couple
opportunities coming his way, so hopefully it works out for him. Yeah,
the Cardinals, you know, I knew it wasn't going to
be the quarterback. That That's why I was sitting there.
(40:57):
I'm like, they're better when Kyler Murray is playing at
a high level. Its just that doesn't happen often, Like
it's not for long periods of time lately. So that
knew day it wasn't going to be briset that brought
him back and made them this amazing team.
Speaker 7 (41:13):
Jonas, If Kyler is not playing, what is he doing?
You think if he's not playing.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Oh, I probably did taking a nap and a shot glass.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
That would be my stupid Uh he can fit in
the side glass.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Yeah, please, Jonah. What else would he be doing?
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I mean there's you know, all sorts of stuff streaming
on live streaming gaming.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
I mean yeah, who knows, maybe opened up, you know,
like a Twitter account and started firing off stuff, you know,
middle out of nowhere, like maybe.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
There was that I got x'es shooting or currents.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Or sides. I don't know, but yeah, he's you know,
he'll be Kyler Murray. That's messy, bro, You messy Cayler Murray,
real messy. It's entertaining as hell, though, but it is
it is is very messy.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
What the.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Let me tell you something I feel. Listen to this show.
All right, we should get a we should get some
sort of an award.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
We certainly should, because this has got to be one
of the realists. This gotta be one of the realist
shows that doesn't get canceled of ratio, Like since like,
since Howard Stern man, Like, we really have Howard Stern
esque type moments on the show.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Anybody that wondered or questioned whether or not stories were
real that we're told about members of the show throughout
the court.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, it plays out if you're paying attention. Geez, unbelievable, man,
It's just utterly unbelievable. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Two more to go.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
A lot of entertainment left
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