August 4, 2022 • 39 mins
Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the NFL is seeking a 1-year ban, treatment and monetary fines from Deshaun Watson following the recommendation of a 6-game suspension. Zeke Elliott explains why he’s skipping preseason games and the guys wonder if the window has closed on the Dallas Cowboys. And from Hollywood Brown to Hollywood, Ca and a psychedelic trip on ICYMI.
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Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Nocks with you here and coming up
on this Thursday edition, No Brady Quinn, but we've got
you covered because we've got NFL football in action coming
up later on tonight. We're gonna get into all of
the Hall of Fame game covers that we've got for you,
and some people on the shore are more excited than others.
We're also gonna hear from Albert Brier about the latest
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on Deshaun Watson and how that whole fiasco is playing out.
We've got quarterbacks commenting on other quarterbacks potentially taking their spot.
We've got another edition of would you Rather We've got
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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, rock man, it's
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wherever the hell you are making us a part of
your Thursday morning. We appreciate you doing so. We're going
to take you all the way up until nine am
Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. Can you feel it sticks?
All right? And be careful when you answer that. Uh?
It is? Uh? It is the first football game. Yeah.
How's your foot by the way sore? Yeah? But I
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can feel it well. I mean that's in the air
this morning. Oh lord, are you jacked up? Man? We
got football back. I know it's a Hall of Fame game,
and some people just keep coming with all of the
sayings right now, aren't you come on, aren't you aren't
you fired? Aren't you? Aren't you jack to the gil
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sticks gets out stammers. We do have we do have
some preseason football coming up later on tonight. That'll be
fun for about half a quarter and then everyone will
lose tris. But the fact of the matter is football's back.
It's the first real game of the year, and so
everybody's real excited about that. We are going to get
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into that discussion for you here on fs are And
by the way, if you're wondering why we asked about
LaVar's foot. If you missed it, um, a little bit
of a what do we call it, a blocking sleds
A little bit of a five man blocking sled and
it got hit. You know. I told the dude, I said, listen,
you need to hit this harder than that. You're not
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hitting it hard enough. You're hitting it like it's real
soft that the five man is hitting you. You're not
hitting it. I was like, you hit that thing. He
hit it, and I was like, you hit it right over.
He knocked that bad boy onto my foot. Man. Yeah,
well picked it up and he dropped it and it
dropped right on my foot. Listen, Uh, you know we
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I think you're gonna recover like you're gonna recover nicely.
You had at least you didn't have your slides on.
If you had your slides on, we'd be talking a
whole another conversation. I mean I had on some um nope,
note nocasus hocus hocus. Yeah, and it wasn't It wasn't
much different, I'll tell you that. Yeah. So, uh so
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that is the That is the update on the foot.
We will get more of an update on that. I mean,
by the way, that's okay, because when you get it
dropped on your foot on these types of days, it
works out real well for you. I'm so so yeah.
By the way that the House LaVar's foot segment is
a Rex Ryan's favorite for anybody interested who listens to
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this program. So we venture away from that to uh,
to another conversation that continues on here in the world
of sports and in the world of football. If you
thought the Deshaun Watson story was over with, now, yeah,
it's definitely not. The NFL made its move not a surprise.
The NFL is appealing the six games suspension that was
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handed out and recommended by Judge Suell Robinson a couple
of days ago, and the NFL is reportedly seeking a
one year ban. Roger Goodell can now decide whether he
or someone he appoints will hear the appeal. And there's
also a report that the league is seeking a fine
and also treatment that Deshaun Watson must undergo as part
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of this this new appeal process. So now we've got
money that's involved, we've got treatment that's involved, both of
which I think we're uh. We had talked about at
that time when the decision came out, it was well,
so he didn't get fined anything, and there's no recommendation
for him seeking some help for whatever issue he's got.
But as as the world turns in the world to
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Deshaun Watson, and now we get to wait to see
how this whole thing drags out. Yeah, I mean again,
I wish Q was on the show. No offense, but
I wish he was here to give some context because
to me, my first thought is, again, you hired this
lady to do a job. She's a former judge. You
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hired her to do a job. You didn't like the
job that she did with her recommendation, and and and
I guess the more I understand the fact that she's
not an arbiter, which I think is more of of
an official capacity of making a decision. I believe then
if that's the case, if you want to appeal, I'm
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not as I'm not as taken back by it as
as I would have been if this was like a
true arbitration. With that being said, something of this magnitude,
when you appoint somebody to cover this, to do this,
to to to give the recommendation, then to me, to me,
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you run with what it is that they did. If
you're using it and then you come back over it
and you're like, no, we didn't like that decision, Like,
that's not what what this should be. It should be
a harsher penalty for whatever reasons. I don't care if
it's giving in to public opinion. I don't care if
you internally didn't like it. I don't care which one
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it is. If if you come over top of it
and you yield your your judgment over it through the appeals,
which it's going to go through Roger Goodell if he
so chooses to, or he may appoint somebody I believe
to to do it. Which if you're gonna appoint somebody else,
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that that seems to me. Um. I think both kind
of are are off to me. It's like, if you're
gonna appoint somebody's like, what are you gonna keep appealing
and appointing somebody until they give the type of harsh
judgment or I'm not even gonna say harsh, just the
judgment that you want. Are you gonna keep a point
appealing and then pointing until you get the judgment that
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you want. I don't know how many numbers there are
on appeals or are you gonna now step in and
you're going to give the judgment that you want and
that solely is what you wanted in terms of you
as a league, Um, you as Roger Goodell. I just
for me, I understand that there's an outcry. I understand
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that you have a a high percentage. I believe I
heard forty percent um women that are are are fans
of the game. But in knowing all of those things,
you made that decision in the first place. And if
you're gonna make that decision in the first place, then
you rap with the decision of the person that you hired,
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because that's saying to me that you don't feel like
there was a high enough competency level for the person
that you had give the recommendation. So even in knowing
that they wanted to do a harsher punishment and whether
you agree or not, taking taking out the personal side
of it, like the personal side of me felt like
that's like you dude just got rewarded, and so did
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the Cleveland Browns. But that's what the decision was. And
she took what like two weeks, two and a half,
three weeks to make the decision. She took a Wow,
she took a while. So you know, I think we all,
like you said, I think we all knew they had
to appeal it because it just seemed like it was
a simple six games slap on the wrists. But that
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was what she She went through her process, and she
went through her information, and she made her recommendation based
off of what her information was. If you didn't like it,
you know, then deal with it. But that's not the
case here. They they decided to appeal it. And it'll
be interesting to see. It does sound right, like if
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it's a year suspension, that sounds right. A lot of
people are making the argument that, oh, he already did
a year time served, He already did a year's suspension. No,
he didn't. You are you are unaware, You're ignorant and
your understanding of what took place if you're trying to
say it's time served, because it was not time served.
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He was not officially suspending head and he got paid
and he and he made the decision. He made the decision.
So now you're talking about in in a situation where
he's dictating the entire time. He dictated if he was
going to play in Houston. He's dictated if he's going
to get a major contract. He's dictated if that major
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contract is fully guaranteed. So I mean that that's not
time serve. So I mean, it's it's he's going I mean,
and to get therapy and to have fines connected to it.
I mean, I think that that's right. But that's my opinion. See,
do you think if there was a fine attached to
the six games that there would have been less of
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an outcry? Because I do. I think money is an
underlying factor here because people still going We talked about
at the time the Cleveland Browns made this worse per
se in the fact that they gave him a two
d thirty million dollar record setting guaranteed contract, and the
way the contract was structured, he was barely going to
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lose anything this season. And so you look at, Okay,
him not playing the first six games costs him how much?
And he's still gonna make what forty five million plus
this season. Had the judge come out and said six
games and some sort of a fine whatever that number is,
a million dollars, two millions, like, whatever that number is,
I think there would have been less blowback by people
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in the media or less public outcry, because they would
have looked at that as a legitimate punishment, because you
would have added a financial element to it, the fact
that it was just six games flat, and then on
top of that you read into the details of what
his contract looks like this year. I think that's partly
where where some of this became an issue. And there's
been some speculation that there would be some sort of
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a they would come to terms on a deal, the
NFL seeking a full year, and the NFL p A
and and Deshaun Watson are pushing back on that, and
there I've already said, well, we're going to sue the NFL.
The problem is if you take that route, one of
these speculations out there is that it could really push
this thing back a long time, and it could take
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a long time for this thing to get finalized, which
means it could lead into next year, and if it
bleeds into next year, he's really going to take a
hit financially. So what happens, you know what I mean? Like,
I'm trying to understand what takes place if that, If
that happens, are they going to keep him from playing
or is he allowed to play. I believe that he
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is technically allowed to play, but it doesn't make sense
for him to go through that knowing that this will
fall into next year because he's gonna service suspension one
way or another. Why not get it done with now
and that way. Whatever the financial implications are. If you
push this back and say you're you accept a suspension
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of eight games or ten games or whatever it is
next year, now you're really going to take get hit financially.
And so it doesn't really benefit him to try and
push back on this and and say no, no, no, no,
I want no games. We promised we wouldn't fight back
against six games, we would accept whatever the decision was
from the judge. And now that the NFL has said no, no, no,
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we're we we are not in this. We don't like
the six games. We think there should be more. It
just doesn't make sense from from a financial standpoint for
him to push this back any further, which is why
the conversation is, how do they come to terms on
some sort of an agreement, like what what is the
middle ground they can find here? And there's been talks
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of twelve games or maybe ten games, but the NFL
wants to find because they want him to get hit
in the wall at a little bit based on the
contract that was put together by the Browns, and then
that's where the treatment aspect comes in on this. So
I don't think he's going to get a full year,
but I do think there's gonna be a couple of
games and some money attached to it. So well, I mean,
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that's what it's looking like right now. You're not going
to hold in the pills where or filing a pill
where it doesn't pan out the way that you wanted
the governing body of the entire business. That's not it's
gonna end the way they want. It's not like, oh,
the NFL p A is gonna say well, no, you're
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not gonna do it, or they're gonna get involved with
suing and this not another like whatever it is that
that's they want. That's what's gonna happen because ultimately, it's
their league, it's their business, So I mean it's we
should be you know. I mean the conclusion is they're like,
you know, it's gonna be either ten twelve games or
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it's going to be the entire year. They it sounds
like they want the entire year. I don't know that
there's going to be a compromise. It might be the
entire year. He needs to seek help, seek therapy, and
and he needs to be fined for it. Like that's
what it should have been. But y'all chose that lady
to do to y'all chow was this lady like that?
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She didn't walk off of the street. This was a
very high profile situation. And if I was giving you
a conclusion Jonas on this, it was a terrible miss
for the simple fact that now you have to appeal
it and go over and be like, yeah, we wanted you,
sue L to do this the right way. You let
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us down with your recommendation. Now we got to get involved.
That's what this comes across. That. Yeah, it's uh, the
the whole. I gotta be honest with you. I'm just
so tired of talking about the legal side of this.
I'm so fed up with it. And and apparently this
is not going to drag out, Like the most recent
decision from Judge Suell Robinson came out with that whatever
whatever they determine is going to happen pretty quickly here
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and they are it's a binding agreement when they finally
officially agree to it, there's no going back on it.
There's no appeal after that. Once it's done, it's done.
So whether he gets a full year or he gets
you know, eight to ten games and a fine and
treatment attached to it. Once we have our answer, then
we can move the hell on and just focus on
the season. So it's just the the whole thing is uh,
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focus on disease and period. Now. I mean, we can
talk about this scenario, but it was a miss. It
was a miss, and it's messy. It was messy. He
made it messy. Um. This is not a mess out
of taw can Can. This is one. This is one
that is a little bit more in the media, so
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it's more it's more figurative than more literal. But in
some cases it is a literal mess as well. But yeah, yeah,
I get it. Yeah, unbelievable, just a class act. It
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made not the the not the most intelligent decision of
their career. We'll just put it that way. Uh a
new start and uh already starting off on the wrong foot.
So we'll get to that here coming up in another
edition of Vacation. Missed it twenty minutes from now here
on fs ARE. So when we were talking with Albert
Brier last week, and I've made mention of this because
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I didn't. It didn't occur to me until he said it,
that Ezekiel Elliott is entering year seven of his career
like that he's already I mean, he's coming up on
twenty seven years old. We've already started to see a
little bit of the wear and tear down years the
past couple of seasons. Um, you've made mention of a
LaVar talking about he doesn't have that same burst when
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you watch him and you see him in comparison to
Tony Pollard, there's just a difference in in the pace
of the game and at that position. And he was
talking with the Athletic recently and it was kind of
interesting to hear him sort of look at his career
as a whole, and one of the the points that
he made was quote, I've been playing football twenty years.
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This is my seventh year. I've seen a lot of football.
I don't think I need a preseason game, especially with
these joy practices. And then he talked about some of
his goals and uh, ten thousand yards is a goal
of his. He's got a little bit over two thousand
to go. But it's just it's it's funny because when
you look at him, you go, well, he's been in
the league seven years now, and then you forget about
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the pounding he took before he got into the NFL,
and it just it just seems like since he got
that deal, and since he got that that Cabo contract,
that we've just started to see a little bit of
a steady to line. And credit to him for getting
paid when he did but it just feels like he's
already maybe kind of seen the end is near and
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now he's starting to think about long term career goals. Well,
he has not been the same back since since getting
the contract that he received. Um, can he turn that
around at this point in time? I think only he
knows that. Has Tony Pollard looked to be a more
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explosive running back, more explosive play running back? Absolutely he has.
Um has he been productive? I mean, obviously his stats
are are still his stats. There's still a belief in him,
at least from Jerry Jones, that he can be the
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featured guy and and their offense. His teammates love them,
so there are a lot of There are a lot
of factors going in favor of Ezekiel Elliott where he's at,
even though an onlooker, I'm an onlooker with no type
of you know, emotions connected to what my analysis would
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be of him. I just don't think he's been the
same back. I don't think he's been as scary of
a back. I don't think that you really have to
prepare for Ezekiel Elliott when talking about you know, who
are the guys you have to stop when you play
the Dallas football team. He's not. He wouldn't be the
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first or second name probably that is mentioned on your
scouting report. Is he someone of note? Yes, he is
because of his body of work. So you can't you
can't just throw caution to the wind. And looking at
Ezekiel Elliott, he could. He could have enough left in
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him too to be better. Make no mistake about it.
It's not just him. It's not just what he hasn't
been capable of doing. It really comes down to what
they're able to do with their offensive front. And I've
told people this all along that elite the days of
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talking about an elite offensive front, uh, an offensive front
that can open up big old holes and get you know,
get people moving down field, all those things that you
saw and what could have been a heavy, all all
star loaded, all pro loaded offensive front. It is no
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longer that type of offensive front. And it's been that
way for it maybe a little while now, at least
at least one or two seasons, I would say. So
it's not just on Ezekiel Elliet, you know. And and
so to me, all all of the conditions, all of
the elements involved with him, it doesn't work to his favor,
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not having an offensive line that can open up the
type of holes that make it easier for running back
to run the ball. Knowing that we're playing in a
league where offensive you know, running backs have been minimized
to begin with anyway, due to all of the passing
that's taking place. But you know, Jerry Jones likes the
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way blocks and and that's that's a and and that
is a big that's a big deal to have a
running back that is able to block in the passing game,
especially in the past first league. Yeah, I mean, especially
when you're getting paid that amount of money. That's why
Jerry gave him that contract. So yeah, that's that makes
all the sense in the world according to Jerry Jones. Here,
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you know what I wonder about Dallas, has the window closed?
Like because and I asked that because in they drafted
their franch ice running back and franchise quarterback and they
had the best old line in the league. And here
we are seven years later and they got nothing to
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show for it. Everybody got paid, but they got nothing
to show for it. And then you look around the division.
Philadelphia has improved, Washington has improved, the Giants are are
are trying to figure it out. But you've still got
Green Bay, You've got Tampa Bay. And I'm not saying
the NFC is the strongest in the world, but it
just feels like Dallas's best chance to really do what
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Jerry Jones is so desperately wanted them to do, and
that's get back to the big game, get back to
a Super Bowl. It feels like that's gone. And maybe
this is just who they are and they're gonna treadwater
and be a topic of conversation because of the Cowboys,
but they're not really actually a serious threat in the NFC. Well,
they improved their defense dramatically when they added Quinn and
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had the draft that they had. They lose Gregory, but
they they're still they still have pieces on defense where
this can be a dominant defense. I'm I'm not sure
that their defense is good enough that they can carry
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the entire load of the Dallas Cowboys. And I think
that that's the biggest question for me, because I do
not trust the Dallas offense. I've been saying that all along.
And and if you take a fine tooth comb, if
you take a microscope to it, a magnifying glass to it.
You can see that there are tremendous holes and looking
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at why this offense may not be as good as
what people are projecting them to be. Now there's the
possibility that they could be, I just don't see it.
They had to be, you know. I tell tell my
guys this, and before we practice. You know, there's certain
people I just don't think highly of that's on our team,
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and it's because their actions. It's because of the things
that you've done. But that doesn't mean that you don't
have the opportunity to change what made me not think
highly of you every single time we touched that football
field or the weight room or the meeting room. You
just like you earned not having high thoughts of you.
You can earn and change the thought process of how
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people view you, or you could not care at all. Right,
And that's Dallas's offense to me. We get so caught
up into the statistical categories of how well Dak Prescott
has done, but in reality, he doesn't win big games.
In reality, the Dallas Cowboys don't win big games. And
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I don't see this team as an improvement in an
upgrade in any way. On the offensive side of the ball.
Where you would feel any differently about them during that.
In fact, I think, as you mentioned, teams like Washington,
teams like Philly have improved. I mean, and they made
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some very very very strategically sound additions during the course
of this off season that would lend me to believe
that they could actually get in front, jump in front
of Dallas in terms of their competitive, uh you know,
approach to winning the NFC East. And and I don't
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I stand on that. I think that that Philly is
going to be the much the most improved team. I
think they're the team that's gonna win the East. And
I think that it may be a socker to people
that it may not be Dallas that even gets into
the second space of being in the East. It maybe Washington. Now,
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if if Philly does win the East as you have
predicted here on the show for White sometime, are you
going to be humble about it or you're going to
I'm always humble, but but there's a difference between being
humble and being boldly um boldly situated, and and the
logic that you've used. I have no problem letting you
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know I applied logic to my conclusion and when it
plays out, if it played out exactly the way that
I in my mind, the reason why I came to
the conclusion that I did, Yeah, I have no problem
letting you know yeah. I mean, I think I think
that's a more humble approach than I would take because
if I had your resume, and I made three Pro Bowls,
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and I played my entire career in the NFC East,
and then I correctly predicted who was going to win
the NFC East and it wasn't the favorite, and it
wasn't the Dallas Cowboys. With all the fanboys that cover
the Cowboys, and especially in our mew Year world and
also around the country, I would wear people's ass out.
I would let him ow every chance I got. I'm
just saying, it's an option. It's not that big of
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a deal to me. That's why to me, when when
I make my predictions and and and I apply my logic,
it's just it's just that because it's really not that
big of a deal to me. You know, I'm just
doing my job. I'm going it is two pros and
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knocks it here on fs are coming up shortly, we're
going to talk about somebody, uh not the most intelligent
decision in the world made by this individual in the NFL.
We will get to that here on Fox Sports Radio.
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radio gold. I presented them Garcia about it, presented the
what do you think about that? Huh, that's uh, I've
come to expect it from you know, like some people,
you know, like maybe they'll throw to you and it's
just kind of like, oh, and by the way, no,
there's no by the way here, you were put on
the pedestal that you deserve. I mean, I did agree
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with that, Eddie. Yeah, that's I appreciate that. The present
to thee was a little bit. I also agree with
that as well. This is the man who I've witnessed
go through hell and back by trying a snowball for
the first time and and and nearly vomited in a
trash can here. I've getten a lot of bad things
for my life, but that was that was bad. They
still make those, by the way they do Yeah, they
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still do. Somebody likes them and uh, well we won't
comment on the person who used to like them and
it's no longer with us. Yeah, yeah, what's the what
I missed? Frank Man? Of course, let us start with
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news from the NFL, with the league announced as expected,
it will appeal the six games suspension to Cleveland Brown's
quarterback to Shaun Watson, seeking a tougher penalty for violating
the league's personal conduct policy. It has not been announced
yet if it will be Commissioner Roger good All that
will hill? Do you appeal? Uh? And if he's gonna one,
who's gonna decide what the punishment will be or not? Uh?
The more severe the penalty to Watson will likely result
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in the players associations suing the NFL in federal courts.
So this thing is going to go on for a while. Now.
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The guys are here to bring you in case you missed,
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case you missed this. Marquise Hollywood Brown miss Cardinals practice yesterday,
and that was because he spent the morning in jail
after being arrested for driving over a hundred twenty six
miles per hour on the way to practice. So what
are you doing? What do you was he running late
or did you just have a nice car that goes fast?
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And he's like, you know what, why not let's just
go ahead and uh and test this thing out. But
what are you doing? Some people just don't be having
the best of luck with with things, man, That's all
I'll say. Some people just don't be having the best
of luck and and us and I will say that
when you realize that you're not having the best of luck,
then you got to start altering your life decisions, man,
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because honestly, like it doesn't get any better. I just
don't go over a hundred miles an hour anymore. Like,
don't ever do it again. I ain't gonna judging this
time because we've all, I got to say, we've all
been guilty of going fast with some of the vehicles
that you are able to afford once you start getting
that good, good, long money. But just don't do it again.
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Don't do it again, don't cost yourself. Are you familiar
with Roman philosopher Seneca. He has a quote quote The
quote is luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. Okay,
I've heard that, I've heard that saying yeah and uh,
And apparently Hollywood Brown's lacking in one of the two categories.
He's lacking somewhere somewhere, he's lacking. What are you doing, dude?
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Like a hundred twenty something miles an hour? It's really
not that hard to get the seven miles prob I get. Well,
for me, it is because my car is going on
twenty years old, So yeah, I'm not. You know, you
would feel every bit of a I would disappear. I
would disappear. You ever seen powder where the where the
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pale kid disappears into the sky. That's what happened. If
I got to a certain speed, I would completely vanish.
You'd never hear from me again. What else you got? Lee,
Guys from Hollywood Brown to Hollywood, California. Conor McGregor has
landed his first role in the Hollywood film. He's going
to be playing in the new remake of the eighties
classic road House. All Right, I got a problem with this.
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Here's why. Remember the original Point Break fun movie, and
then they did a new Point Break It's stinks, right,
and they don't even let you know. It's like Karate
Kid when it was the original Karate kid, and then
Will Smith's kid ended up being the Karate Kid, and
like the second, they don't even tell you when you
go through the guide on the television that it's the
new version. You just click on and all of a
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sudden you go, oh, it's that guy. I don't want
to watch this. I want the vintage, you know, uh
point break or Karate Kid. Now, I'm just saying I
hit the button on. What what Patrick Swayze's white here's
the problem? Break to the Karate Kid. Okay, I'm sorry.
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Ralph Maccio was better than Will Smith's kid. And Will
Smith walk in the studio right now and he can
assault me, and he could say, don't ever do it again.
And I'm gonna say I'm going to but but if
you're gonna you remake a roadhouse, at least acknowledge that
it's a remake and don't just call it roadhouse because
you confuse everybody. I don't want to watch another version
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of this. I like the old version of Patrick Swayze
and Sam Elliott and you know, Sam Eliot's laying down
on a bar top and Swayzey goes, hey, man, you
just hung over, and then he turns him over and
he's got a battle axe in the sternum. And Smith's
Kid's movie can be The Karate Kid Rights in China,
The kung Fu Kid? Right? Can you hit the button
on yourself? What about the audience? Kung Fu China? What
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is that? By the way, I had no idea there
was a really it's called ku huh. It's Korean. I
had no idea. Bertles of Martial Art, Actually no idea.
His daddy took Kung Fu Kid to the Mexican Judo
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What else, guys. In a recent podcast, Aaron Rodgers opened
up about his use of psychedelics, giving credit to his
back to back m VP season, saying it was in
part due to his mental mindset being changed because of ayuasca.
I mean, so he was using mushrooms something like that
at toad and city like, look at that. Isn't that
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any thing where you look at toad and uh like
you get high off the toad juice or whatever it is.
I think they're I think that's a thing. There's like
a toad that you can lick that that does the
same thing. Apparently, it's like takes you to another dimension
for a short time and then you come back and
and everything is normal, there's no hangover anything. But I
would explain why he walked in the training camp that way. Yeah,
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that that guy, that philosopher that you said, it aligns
for Aaron Rodgers, Hollywood Brown, It isn't aligning for you.
You can have Hollywood Brown going he's getting arrested. You
could have Aaron Rodgers saying I'm using psychedelics and it
makes me an m v P this this. Just think
about it. I mean, you know, just just put it
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all together. You know, some people got it all, some
people got none. You know, you ever talked to somebody
that has done psychedelic drugs or like really navigated those
waters before. I remember talking to i'vemeber talking to a guy.
He was in a cover band and he was a
frequent visitor to my my brother's bar, and I remember
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him saying that he did psychedelic drugs before he went
on stage. And he said at one point he almost
freaked out because he swore to God that a lizard
was crawling up the side of his guitar shaft, like
he almost lost his said really, he goes, yeah, he
thought I was terrified. I wanted to run. I didn't
know what was happening, like he couldn't control it. I
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just I mean, some people are into it. Man. I
just wonder, Shaft he's in yeah class act unbelievable. Um,
is there a do they if he did this during
the season? Would he would he piss hot? Meaning would
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he would that would that's a great yeah for drug
you know, and an illegal PD like an illegal substance
or is that allowed? I would assume him speaking so
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All right? And be careful when you answer that. Uh?
It is? Uh? It is the first football game. Yeah.
How's your foot by the way sore? Yeah? But I
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can feel it well. I mean that's in the air
this morning. Oh lord, are you jacked up? Man? We
got football back. I know it's a Hall of Fame game,
and some people just keep coming with all of the
sayings right now, aren't you come on, aren't you aren't
you fired? Aren't you? Aren't you jack to the gil
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sticks gets out stammers. We do have we do have
some preseason football coming up later on tonight. That'll be
fun for about half a quarter and then everyone will
lose tris. But the fact of the matter is football's back.
It's the first real game of the year, and so
everybody's real excited about that. We are going to get
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into that discussion for you here on fs are And
by the way, if you're wondering why we asked about
LaVar's foot. If you missed it, um, a little bit
of a what do we call it, a blocking sleds
A little bit of a five man blocking sled and
it got hit. You know. I told the dude, I said, listen,
you need to hit this harder than that. You're not
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hitting it hard enough. You're hitting it like it's real
soft that the five man is hitting you. You're not
hitting it. I was like, you hit that thing. He
hit it, and I was like, you hit it right over.
He knocked that bad boy onto my foot. Man. Yeah,
well picked it up and he dropped it and it
dropped right on my foot. Listen, Uh, you know we
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I think you're gonna recover like you're gonna recover nicely.
You had at least you didn't have your slides on.
If you had your slides on, we'd be talking a
whole another conversation. I mean I had on some um nope,
note nocasus hocus hocus. Yeah, and it wasn't It wasn't
much different, I'll tell you that. Yeah. So, uh so
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that is the That is the update on the foot.
We will get more of an update on that. I mean,
by the way, that's okay, because when you get it
dropped on your foot on these types of days, it
works out real well for you. I'm so so yeah.
By the way that the House LaVar's foot segment is
a Rex Ryan's favorite for anybody interested who listens to
(03:33):
this program. So we venture away from that to uh,
to another conversation that continues on here in the world
of sports and in the world of football. If you
thought the Deshaun Watson story was over with, now, yeah,
it's definitely not. The NFL made its move not a surprise.
The NFL is appealing the six games suspension that was
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handed out and recommended by Judge Suell Robinson a couple
of days ago, and the NFL is reportedly seeking a
one year ban. Roger Goodell can now decide whether he
or someone he appoints will hear the appeal. And there's
also a report that the league is seeking a fine
and also treatment that Deshaun Watson must undergo as part
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of this this new appeal process. So now we've got
money that's involved, we've got treatment that's involved, both of
which I think we're uh. We had talked about at
that time when the decision came out, it was well,
so he didn't get fined anything, and there's no recommendation
for him seeking some help for whatever issue he's got.
But as as the world turns in the world to
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Deshaun Watson, and now we get to wait to see
how this whole thing drags out. Yeah, I mean again,
I wish Q was on the show. No offense, but
I wish he was here to give some context because
to me, my first thought is, again, you hired this
lady to do a job. She's a former judge. You
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hired her to do a job. You didn't like the
job that she did with her recommendation, and and and
I guess the more I understand the fact that she's
not an arbiter, which I think is more of of
an official capacity of making a decision. I believe then
if that's the case, if you want to appeal, I'm
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not as I'm not as taken back by it as
as I would have been if this was like a
true arbitration. With that being said, something of this magnitude,
when you appoint somebody to cover this, to do this,
to to to give the recommendation, then to me, to me,
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you run with what it is that they did. If
you're using it and then you come back over it
and you're like, no, we didn't like that decision, Like,
that's not what what this should be. It should be
a harsher penalty for whatever reasons. I don't care if
it's giving in to public opinion. I don't care if
you internally didn't like it. I don't care which one
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it is. If if you come over top of it
and you yield your your judgment over it through the appeals,
which it's going to go through Roger Goodell if he
so chooses to, or he may appoint somebody I believe
to to do it. Which if you're gonna appoint somebody else,
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that that seems to me. Um. I think both kind
of are are off to me. It's like, if you're
gonna appoint somebody's like, what are you gonna keep appealing
and appointing somebody until they give the type of harsh
judgment or I'm not even gonna say harsh, just the
judgment that you want. Are you gonna keep a point
appealing and then pointing until you get the judgment that
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you want. I don't know how many numbers there are
on appeals or are you gonna now step in and
you're going to give the judgment that you want and
that solely is what you wanted in terms of you
as a league, Um, you as Roger Goodell. I just
for me, I understand that there's an outcry. I understand
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that you have a a high percentage. I believe I
heard forty percent um women that are are are fans
of the game. But in knowing all of those things,
you made that decision in the first place. And if
you're gonna make that decision in the first place, then
you rap with the decision of the person that you hired,
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because that's saying to me that you don't feel like
there was a high enough competency level for the person
that you had give the recommendation. So even in knowing
that they wanted to do a harsher punishment and whether
you agree or not, taking taking out the personal side
of it, like the personal side of me felt like
that's like you dude just got rewarded, and so did
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the Cleveland Browns. But that's what the decision was. And
she took what like two weeks, two and a half,
three weeks to make the decision. She took a Wow,
she took a while. So you know, I think we all,
like you said, I think we all knew they had
to appeal it because it just seemed like it was
a simple six games slap on the wrists. But that
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was what she She went through her process, and she
went through her information, and she made her recommendation based
off of what her information was. If you didn't like it,
you know, then deal with it. But that's not the
case here. They they decided to appeal it. And it'll
be interesting to see. It does sound right, like if
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it's a year suspension, that sounds right. A lot of
people are making the argument that, oh, he already did
a year time served, He already did a year's suspension. No,
he didn't. You are you are unaware, You're ignorant and
your understanding of what took place if you're trying to
say it's time served, because it was not time served.
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He was not officially suspending head and he got paid
and he and he made the decision. He made the decision.
So now you're talking about in in a situation where
he's dictating the entire time. He dictated if he was
going to play in Houston. He's dictated if he's going
to get a major contract. He's dictated if that major
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contract is fully guaranteed. So I mean that that's not
time serve. So I mean, it's it's he's going I mean,
and to get therapy and to have fines connected to it.
I mean, I think that that's right. But that's my opinion. See,
do you think if there was a fine attached to
the six games that there would have been less of
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an outcry? Because I do. I think money is an
underlying factor here because people still going We talked about
at the time the Cleveland Browns made this worse per
se in the fact that they gave him a two
d thirty million dollar record setting guaranteed contract, and the
way the contract was structured, he was barely going to
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lose anything this season. And so you look at, Okay,
him not playing the first six games costs him how much?
And he's still gonna make what forty five million plus
this season. Had the judge come out and said six
games and some sort of a fine whatever that number is,
a million dollars, two millions, like, whatever that number is,
I think there would have been less blowback by people
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in the media or less public outcry, because they would
have looked at that as a legitimate punishment, because you
would have added a financial element to it, the fact
that it was just six games flat, and then on
top of that you read into the details of what
his contract looks like this year. I think that's partly
where where some of this became an issue. And there's
been some speculation that there would be some sort of
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a they would come to terms on a deal, the
NFL seeking a full year, and the NFL p A
and and Deshaun Watson are pushing back on that, and
there I've already said, well, we're going to sue the NFL.
The problem is if you take that route, one of
these speculations out there is that it could really push
this thing back a long time, and it could take
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a long time for this thing to get finalized, which
means it could lead into next year, and if it
bleeds into next year, he's really going to take a
hit financially. So what happens, you know what I mean? Like,
I'm trying to understand what takes place if that, If
that happens, are they going to keep him from playing
or is he allowed to play. I believe that he
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is technically allowed to play, but it doesn't make sense
for him to go through that knowing that this will
fall into next year because he's gonna service suspension one
way or another. Why not get it done with now
and that way. Whatever the financial implications are. If you
push this back and say you're you accept a suspension
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of eight games or ten games or whatever it is
next year, now you're really going to take get hit financially.
And so it doesn't really benefit him to try and
push back on this and and say no, no, no, no,
I want no games. We promised we wouldn't fight back
against six games, we would accept whatever the decision was
from the judge. And now that the NFL has said no, no, no,
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we're we we are not in this. We don't like
the six games. We think there should be more. It
just doesn't make sense from from a financial standpoint for
him to push this back any further, which is why
the conversation is, how do they come to terms on
some sort of an agreement, like what what is the
middle ground they can find here? And there's been talks
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of twelve games or maybe ten games, but the NFL
wants to find because they want him to get hit
in the wall at a little bit based on the
contract that was put together by the Browns, and then
that's where the treatment aspect comes in on this. So
I don't think he's going to get a full year,
but I do think there's gonna be a couple of
games and some money attached to it. So well, I mean,
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that's what it's looking like right now. You're not going
to hold in the pills where or filing a pill
where it doesn't pan out the way that you wanted
the governing body of the entire business. That's not it's
gonna end the way they want. It's not like, oh,
the NFL p A is gonna say well, no, you're
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not gonna do it, or they're gonna get involved with
suing and this not another like whatever it is that
that's they want. That's what's gonna happen because ultimately, it's
their league, it's their business, So I mean it's we
should be you know. I mean the conclusion is they're like,
you know, it's gonna be either ten twelve games or
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it's going to be the entire year. They it sounds
like they want the entire year. I don't know that
there's going to be a compromise. It might be the
entire year. He needs to seek help, seek therapy, and
and he needs to be fined for it. Like that's
what it should have been. But y'all chose that lady
to do to y'all chow was this lady like that?
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She didn't walk off of the street. This was a
very high profile situation. And if I was giving you
a conclusion Jonas on this, it was a terrible miss
for the simple fact that now you have to appeal
it and go over and be like, yeah, we wanted you,
sue L to do this the right way. You let
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us down with your recommendation. Now we got to get involved.
That's what this comes across. That. Yeah, it's uh, the
the whole. I gotta be honest with you. I'm just
so tired of talking about the legal side of this.
I'm so fed up with it. And and apparently this
is not going to drag out, Like the most recent
decision from Judge Suell Robinson came out with that whatever
whatever they determine is going to happen pretty quickly here
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and they are it's a binding agreement when they finally
officially agree to it, there's no going back on it.
There's no appeal after that. Once it's done, it's done.
So whether he gets a full year or he gets
you know, eight to ten games and a fine and
treatment attached to it. Once we have our answer, then
we can move the hell on and just focus on
the season. So it's just the the whole thing is uh,
(15:11):
focus on disease and period. Now. I mean, we can
talk about this scenario, but it was a miss. It
was a miss, and it's messy. It was messy. He
made it messy. Um. This is not a mess out
of taw can Can. This is one. This is one
that is a little bit more in the media, so
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it's more it's more figurative than more literal. But in
some cases it is a literal mess as well. But yeah, yeah,
I get it. Yeah, unbelievable, just a class act. It
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made not the the not the most intelligent decision of
their career. We'll just put it that way. Uh a
new start and uh already starting off on the wrong foot.
So we'll get to that here coming up in another
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on fs ARE. So when we were talking with Albert
Brier last week, and I've made mention of this because
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I didn't. It didn't occur to me until he said it,
that Ezekiel Elliott is entering year seven of his career
like that he's already I mean, he's coming up on
twenty seven years old. We've already started to see a
little bit of the wear and tear down years the
past couple of seasons. Um, you've made mention of a
LaVar talking about he doesn't have that same burst when
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you watch him and you see him in comparison to
Tony Pollard, there's just a difference in in the pace
of the game and at that position. And he was
talking with the Athletic recently and it was kind of
interesting to hear him sort of look at his career
as a whole, and one of the the points that
he made was quote, I've been playing football twenty years.
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This is my seventh year. I've seen a lot of football.
I don't think I need a preseason game, especially with
these joy practices. And then he talked about some of
his goals and uh, ten thousand yards is a goal
of his. He's got a little bit over two thousand
to go. But it's just it's it's funny because when
you look at him, you go, well, he's been in
the league seven years now, and then you forget about
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the pounding he took before he got into the NFL,
and it just it just seems like since he got
that deal, and since he got that that Cabo contract,
that we've just started to see a little bit of
a steady to line. And credit to him for getting
paid when he did but it just feels like he's
already maybe kind of seen the end is near and
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now he's starting to think about long term career goals. Well,
he has not been the same back since since getting
the contract that he received. Um, can he turn that
around at this point in time? I think only he
knows that. Has Tony Pollard looked to be a more
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explosive running back, more explosive play running back? Absolutely he has.
Um has he been productive? I mean, obviously his stats
are are still his stats. There's still a belief in him,
at least from Jerry Jones, that he can be the
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featured guy and and their offense. His teammates love them,
so there are a lot of There are a lot
of factors going in favor of Ezekiel Elliott where he's at,
even though an onlooker, I'm an onlooker with no type
of you know, emotions connected to what my analysis would
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be of him. I just don't think he's been the
same back. I don't think he's been as scary of
a back. I don't think that you really have to
prepare for Ezekiel Elliott when talking about you know, who
are the guys you have to stop when you play
the Dallas football team. He's not. He wouldn't be the
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first or second name probably that is mentioned on your
scouting report. Is he someone of note? Yes, he is
because of his body of work. So you can't you
can't just throw caution to the wind. And looking at
Ezekiel Elliott, he could. He could have enough left in
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him too to be better. Make no mistake about it.
It's not just him. It's not just what he hasn't
been capable of doing. It really comes down to what
they're able to do with their offensive front. And I've
told people this all along that elite the days of
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talking about an elite offensive front, uh, an offensive front
that can open up big old holes and get you know,
get people moving down field, all those things that you
saw and what could have been a heavy, all all
star loaded, all pro loaded offensive front. It is no
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longer that type of offensive front. And it's been that
way for it maybe a little while now, at least
at least one or two seasons, I would say. So
it's not just on Ezekiel Elliet, you know. And and
so to me, all all of the conditions, all of
the elements involved with him, it doesn't work to his favor,
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not having an offensive line that can open up the
type of holes that make it easier for running back
to run the ball. Knowing that we're playing in a
league where offensive you know, running backs have been minimized
to begin with anyway, due to all of the passing
that's taking place. But you know, Jerry Jones likes the
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way blocks and and that's that's a and and that
is a big that's a big deal to have a
running back that is able to block in the passing game,
especially in the past first league. Yeah, I mean, especially
when you're getting paid that amount of money. That's why
Jerry gave him that contract. So yeah, that's that makes
all the sense in the world according to Jerry Jones. Here,
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you know what I wonder about Dallas, has the window closed?
Like because and I asked that because in they drafted
their franch ice running back and franchise quarterback and they
had the best old line in the league. And here
we are seven years later and they got nothing to
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show for it. Everybody got paid, but they got nothing
to show for it. And then you look around the division.
Philadelphia has improved, Washington has improved, the Giants are are
are trying to figure it out. But you've still got
Green Bay, You've got Tampa Bay. And I'm not saying
the NFC is the strongest in the world, but it
just feels like Dallas's best chance to really do what
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Jerry Jones is so desperately wanted them to do, and
that's get back to the big game, get back to
a Super Bowl. It feels like that's gone. And maybe
this is just who they are and they're gonna treadwater
and be a topic of conversation because of the Cowboys,
but they're not really actually a serious threat in the NFC. Well,
they improved their defense dramatically when they added Quinn and
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had the draft that they had. They lose Gregory, but
they they're still they still have pieces on defense where
this can be a dominant defense. I'm I'm not sure
that their defense is good enough that they can carry
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the entire load of the Dallas Cowboys. And I think
that that's the biggest question for me, because I do
not trust the Dallas offense. I've been saying that all along.
And and if you take a fine tooth comb, if
you take a microscope to it, a magnifying glass to it.
You can see that there are tremendous holes and looking
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at why this offense may not be as good as
what people are projecting them to be. Now there's the
possibility that they could be, I just don't see it.
They had to be, you know. I tell tell my
guys this, and before we practice. You know, there's certain
people I just don't think highly of that's on our team,
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and it's because their actions. It's because of the things
that you've done. But that doesn't mean that you don't
have the opportunity to change what made me not think
highly of you every single time we touched that football
field or the weight room or the meeting room. You
just like you earned not having high thoughts of you.
You can earn and change the thought process of how
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people view you, or you could not care at all. Right,
And that's Dallas's offense to me. We get so caught
up into the statistical categories of how well Dak Prescott
has done, but in reality, he doesn't win big games.
In reality, the Dallas Cowboys don't win big games. And
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I don't see this team as an improvement in an
upgrade in any way. On the offensive side of the ball.
Where you would feel any differently about them during that.
In fact, I think, as you mentioned, teams like Washington,
teams like Philly have improved. I mean, and they made
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some very very very strategically sound additions during the course
of this off season that would lend me to believe
that they could actually get in front, jump in front
of Dallas in terms of their competitive, uh you know,
approach to winning the NFC East. And and I don't
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I stand on that. I think that that Philly is
going to be the much the most improved team. I
think they're the team that's gonna win the East. And
I think that it may be a socker to people
that it may not be Dallas that even gets into
the second space of being in the East. It maybe Washington. Now,
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if if Philly does win the East as you have
predicted here on the show for White sometime, are you
going to be humble about it or you're going to
I'm always humble, but but there's a difference between being
humble and being boldly um boldly situated, and and the
logic that you've used. I have no problem letting you
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know I applied logic to my conclusion and when it
plays out, if it played out exactly the way that
I in my mind, the reason why I came to
the conclusion that I did, Yeah, I have no problem
letting you know yeah. I mean, I think I think
that's a more humble approach than I would take because
if I had your resume, and I made three Pro Bowls,
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and I played my entire career in the NFC East,
and then I correctly predicted who was going to win
the NFC East and it wasn't the favorite, and it
wasn't the Dallas Cowboys. With all the fanboys that cover
the Cowboys, and especially in our mew Year world and
also around the country, I would wear people's ass out.
I would let him ow every chance I got. I'm
just saying, it's an option. It's not that big of
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a deal to me. That's why to me, when when
I make my predictions and and and I apply my logic,
it's just it's just that because it's really not that
big of a deal to me. You know, I'm just
doing my job. I'm going it is two pros and
a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington Jonahs
(28:23):
knocks it here on fs are coming up shortly, we're
going to talk about somebody, uh not the most intelligent
decision in the world made by this individual in the NFL.
We will get to that here on Fox Sports Radio.
But for all the latest from around the world of
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radio gold. I presented them Garcia about it, presented the
what do you think about that? Huh, that's uh, I've
come to expect it from you know, like some people,
you know, like maybe they'll throw to you and it's
just kind of like, oh, and by the way, no,
there's no by the way here, you were put on
the pedestal that you deserve. I mean, I did agree
(29:05):
with that, Eddie. Yeah, that's I appreciate that. The present
to thee was a little bit. I also agree with
that as well. This is the man who I've witnessed
go through hell and back by trying a snowball for
the first time and and and nearly vomited in a
trash can here. I've getten a lot of bad things
for my life, but that was that was bad. They
still make those, by the way they do Yeah, they
(29:27):
still do. Somebody likes them and uh, well we won't
comment on the person who used to like them and
it's no longer with us. Yeah, yeah, what's the what
I missed? Frank Man? Of course, let us start with
(29:47):
news from the NFL, with the league announced as expected,
it will appeal the six games suspension to Cleveland Brown's
quarterback to Shaun Watson, seeking a tougher penalty for violating
the league's personal conduct policy. It has not been announced
yet if it will be Commissioner Roger good All that
will hill? Do you appeal? Uh? And if he's gonna one,
who's gonna decide what the punishment will be or not? Uh?
The more severe the penalty to Watson will likely result
(30:08):
in the players associations suing the NFL in federal courts.
So this thing is going to go on for a while. Now.
Back to LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox in the Fox
Sports Radio studio. Thank you, Eddie, Two pros and a
cup of Joe Here on Fox Sports Radio. You can
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Come on, man, are you being honest? Yeah? Long ago?
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And it sounds like the bead from this is how
we do it, isn't it? It kind of does. It's
like a remix or the original version that's slick rick.
Is this slick rick sounds like slick rick stuff, to
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(31:58):
I'm up on gamble, all right. It is LaVar Arrington
Jonas knocks with the here coming up top the next hour.
A little over ten minutes from now, there's uh a
quarterback who's got a lot of pressure on him this season.
Uh he is trying to dispel the notion that there
is uh some sort of a coup against him. So
we will get to that here a little over ten
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minutes from now on. FS are right now, though, it
is time for something we do every single morning at
this time, and it's called this. Sometimes you can't get
to everything in the world of sports or entertainment. Good thing.
The guys are here to bring you in case you missed,
and for that we turn it over to our executive
producer Lee Do do the lapla guys in case in
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case you missed this. Marquise Hollywood Brown miss Cardinals practice yesterday,
and that was because he spent the morning in jail
after being arrested for driving over a hundred twenty six
miles per hour on the way to practice. So what
are you doing? What do you was he running late
or did you just have a nice car that goes fast?
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And he's like, you know what, why not let's just
go ahead and uh and test this thing out. But
what are you doing? Some people just don't be having
the best of luck with with things, man, That's all
I'll say. Some people just don't be having the best
of luck and and us and I will say that
when you realize that you're not having the best of luck,
then you got to start altering your life decisions, man,
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because honestly, like it doesn't get any better. I just
don't go over a hundred miles an hour anymore. Like,
don't ever do it again. I ain't gonna judging this
time because we've all, I got to say, we've all
been guilty of going fast with some of the vehicles
that you are able to afford once you start getting
that good, good, long money. But just don't do it again.
(33:52):
Don't do it again, don't cost yourself. Are you familiar
with Roman philosopher Seneca. He has a quote quote The
quote is luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. Okay,
I've heard that, I've heard that saying yeah and uh,
And apparently Hollywood Brown's lacking in one of the two categories.
He's lacking somewhere somewhere, he's lacking. What are you doing, dude?
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Like a hundred twenty something miles an hour? It's really
not that hard to get the seven miles prob I get. Well,
for me, it is because my car is going on
twenty years old, So yeah, I'm not. You know, you
would feel every bit of a I would disappear. I
would disappear. You ever seen powder where the where the
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pale kid disappears into the sky. That's what happened. If
I got to a certain speed, I would completely vanish.
You'd never hear from me again. What else you got? Lee,
Guys from Hollywood Brown to Hollywood, California. Conor McGregor has
landed his first role in the Hollywood film. He's going
to be playing in the new remake of the eighties
classic road House. All Right, I got a problem with this.
(35:04):
Here's why. Remember the original Point Break fun movie, and
then they did a new Point Break It's stinks, right,
and they don't even let you know. It's like Karate
Kid when it was the original Karate kid, and then
Will Smith's kid ended up being the Karate Kid, and
like the second, they don't even tell you when you
go through the guide on the television that it's the
new version. You just click on and all of a
(35:25):
sudden you go, oh, it's that guy. I don't want
to watch this. I want the vintage, you know, uh
point break or Karate Kid. Now, I'm just saying I
hit the button on. What what Patrick Swayze's white here's
the problem? Break to the Karate Kid. Okay, I'm sorry.
(35:47):
Ralph Maccio was better than Will Smith's kid. And Will
Smith walk in the studio right now and he can
assault me, and he could say, don't ever do it again.
And I'm gonna say I'm going to but but if
you're gonna you remake a roadhouse, at least acknowledge that
it's a remake and don't just call it roadhouse because
you confuse everybody. I don't want to watch another version
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of this. I like the old version of Patrick Swayze
and Sam Elliott and you know, Sam Eliot's laying down
on a bar top and Swayzey goes, hey, man, you
just hung over, and then he turns him over and
he's got a battle axe in the sternum. And Smith's
Kid's movie can be The Karate Kid Rights in China,
The kung Fu Kid? Right? Can you hit the button
on yourself? What about the audience? Kung Fu China? What
(36:32):
is that? By the way, I had no idea there
was a really it's called ku huh. It's Korean. I
had no idea. Bertles of Martial Art, Actually no idea.
His daddy took Kung Fu Kid to the Mexican Judo
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What else, guys. In a recent podcast, Aaron Rodgers opened
up about his use of psychedelics, giving credit to his
back to back m VP season, saying it was in
part due to his mental mindset being changed because of ayuasca.
I mean, so he was using mushrooms something like that
at toad and city like, look at that. Isn't that
(37:28):
any thing where you look at toad and uh like
you get high off the toad juice or whatever it is.
I think they're I think that's a thing. There's like
a toad that you can lick that that does the
same thing. Apparently, it's like takes you to another dimension
for a short time and then you come back and
and everything is normal, there's no hangover anything. But I
would explain why he walked in the training camp that way. Yeah,
(37:50):
that that guy, that philosopher that you said, it aligns
for Aaron Rodgers, Hollywood Brown, It isn't aligning for you.
You can have Hollywood Brown going he's getting arrested. You
could have Aaron Rodgers saying I'm using psychedelics and it
makes me an m v P this this. Just think
about it. I mean, you know, just just put it
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all together. You know, some people got it all, some
people got none. You know, you ever talked to somebody
that has done psychedelic drugs or like really navigated those
waters before. I remember talking to i'vemeber talking to a guy.
He was in a cover band and he was a
frequent visitor to my my brother's bar, and I remember
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him saying that he did psychedelic drugs before he went
on stage. And he said at one point he almost
freaked out because he swore to God that a lizard
was crawling up the side of his guitar shaft, like
he almost lost his said really, he goes, yeah, he
thought I was terrified. I wanted to run. I didn't
know what was happening, like he couldn't control it. I
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just I mean, some people are into it. Man. I
just wonder, Shaft he's in yeah class act unbelievable. Um,
is there a do they if he did this during
the season? Would he would he piss hot? Meaning would
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he would that would that's a great yeah for drug
you know, and an illegal PD like an illegal substance
or is that allowed? I would assume him speaking so
clearly about it that he knows what he's doing. Fox
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