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December 28, 2022 38 mins

Ron Rivera won’t reveal who will start between Carson Wentz and Taylor Heinicke but the guys tell you why Wentz is the better option. Ed Reed is named the next head coach at Bethune Cookman University and things get negative on The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

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couple of weeks left in the NFL season. There's a
lot of quarterback conversations going on around the league, and
now there's one that's happening in Washington with LaVar's Washington Commanders. Well,

(01:34):
I mean, you know, Taylor Heineke has uh, you know,
he struggled a little bit, little bit. He didn't look
all that hot against San Francisco forty Niners. Carson Wentz
has been healthy for a while. He's who they traded
for this offseason. He started the season as their quarterback
and then he suffered the injury on a Thursday night game.
Taylor Heineke has played well for a couple of weeks afterwards,

(01:58):
and Ron over decided he was just going to go
with Taylor Heineke. And so now there's been some conversations
about where they go at quarterback moving forward, and so
Ron Rivera tried to update everybody yesterday as to what
the status of their quarterback situation is. Well, I just
want to make sure I've got an opportunity to speak
to everybody before I make a decision. I want to
make sure I've got all the all the thoughts and

(02:20):
ideas and concepts, and you know, again, at the end
of the day, the decision is going to be made
based on what I believe is best for us going forward.
I think it is the best opportunity right now. That's
what this is really about. So it's gonna be Carson Wentz. Correct, No,
you don't think so, but you guys might think it.
I mean, I don't think there's all right, let's add it.

(02:41):
I I would guarantee it's gonna be Carson Wentz as
they start quarterback, you're trying to make the playoffs? Who
he's he's a better Yeah, it is. And you know
how those were That is is a good point the
five correct me? That's six games under five hundred that
those Knox locks. By the way, well you know, round

(03:03):
up a little bit. But I just if you're trying
to make the playoffs and he's the best quarterback on
the roster, and I think he clearly is, why would
you not go with Carson Wentz down the stretch. I
just like to me, Taylor Heineke is a great story
and he's been fun to watch, and he rips bush

(03:23):
Lights on a on a plane after a game and
pretends to be Kirk Cousins. But at a certain point,
the reality is he's not as good as Carson Wentz,
and if you're trying to go to the postseason, it
just feels like a foregone conclusion. It's gonna be Carson Wentz.
That's what That's what I would think. I'll say this,
I think his ceilings higher. We've seen Carson Wentz play
in the NFL at much higher level and Taylor heneke Um,

(03:44):
although Hidekie, I think his his floor is higher than
Wentz's where he's played kind of more consistent football and
a style and brand of football that's helped them get
to the point where they're still in the hunt. But
if look, you brought in Wentz for a reason, I
think he opens up some things more the passing game downfield.
Anyone who who disputes that, it's not opinion, it's more fact.

(04:05):
I mean, it's just throughout the course of his career
he's shown more flashes of that. We just haven't seen
that as much from Washington. When when Henik is in there. Again,
not saying he hasn't done a good job, It's just
not the same type of player. The problem is is
that floor where if if he goes in there and
we're talking about smoking left handed cigarettes, he's throwing some
left handed interceptions at times right so literally, it could

(04:26):
it could look ugly. I mean, it could look it
could look really interesting, really interesting. So I just think
the last time we saw Carson Wentz play for this team,
it was a team that didn't look the same way
it looks when when Heiniki is in the game. And
while I will say it's intriguing to to consider that

(04:48):
they may reinsert Carson Wentz back into the lineup um
at this late juncture of the season, I just think
that there are so many un nons to putting in
Carson Wentz. I'd rather take the nons of what the
no it's or the nose of of what Heineke is

(05:11):
over trying to figure out if if at this point,
with two games left and the playoffs on the line,
that I'm going to switch up and and throw a
curve ball and put Carson Wentz back in, not knowing
what I may or may not get. I just think
it's a safer play, regardless of what the outcome is.

(05:32):
I think it's a safer play to keep Heineke in
the game. You know what, though, they don't call him
river Boat and come on, I mean that is his nickname.
I mean, like, listen, I understand Heideki is a fun
story at all. But you know Carson Wentz, I mean
he does have a super Bowl ring? How many games

(05:52):
is going to be played? How many games does he played? Me?
Has he played this evening? For whisperings something? The bike
to someone? No. I was just saying, like, like, give
him some time to pull up how many goals? I
know that, but he was just like, whis You know,
Carson Wentz has got a super Bowl ring? I mean
I think that should be that should really factor in here. Yeah,

(06:15):
that's Nick Foles is super Bowl and he's still got one. Though.
Do you think he wears that around Carson Wentz? Would
you really? Yeah? I would have played a major part,
and I'm winning it. I would have sold that thing.
You got to get to the playoffs. That's in a
pawn shop somewhere in Philadelphia. He did an O b
J for O b J. You know, he did Nick
Foles a favorite. Let me deliver you all to the

(06:36):
playoffs and you go him win it Like O b J.
Doesn't need the regular season, he needs the playoffs. He
just needs a receiver to deliver him to to the playoffs.
So so you're saying, like in reverse, like he just
did okay the first portion of the season, then handed
it off and now he's handed it off to Heineke.
I just want to know how many games is Heineke

(06:56):
plate and how many hit games has won? And ill
and uh up to this point, because I think that
will play a major part. I know he didn't have
a great showing. He's what five and five, five and four,
five and four starter, so he's played nine games straight.

(07:17):
I don't know that you take come out at five
and four nine games straight and and and when Carson
Wentz was in what was it like? He wasn't winning
at all? Right, They weren't winning at off. They got
off to a really really slow start, if I recall correctly,
So if if his if Carson Wentz's record is as
bad as it is, and the vote of confidence not

(07:39):
only by the coaching staff, but was by the players
themselves for Heineke. Why would you remove Heineke with a
five and four record in the playoffs on the line
with two games left? My explanation, But yeah, I mean
sometimes you can't explain why you would split, you know,

(08:00):
kings or queens on a blackjack table. But some people
do queens kangs. You know, do you think of cars?
Some people say for some people say foe. You know
what I mean? Well, I grew up saying foe. But again,
I don't know about you guys. Some people say, some
people say, or some people say, you know what I mean.

(08:20):
That's why that's why nobody wanted to golf with me,
because you know, they're a ball went off the tea,
shot in the wrong direction. I would yell out faux
and people wouldn't move because they weren't used to that
sort of vernacular. Yeah, we thought everyone thought you were
saying he's your foe. Yeah, yeah, that's that's definitely not
the case. You guys, do you ever eat foe or

(08:41):
was it called foe or fa? Yeah? Is it called okay,
don't don't finish? That guy was just uh, yeah, you
guys ever eat that? It's like news, like noodles with eggs.
In it or something like that. I'm not a foodie
like Lee is I z? Yeah? Lee? You are you
a FuG guy or whatever? More of a Roman guy,
which is yeah, noodles with eggs. I haven't done for

(09:05):
Why don't she? Isn't that just like a couple of noodles?
I guess it's like the biggest craze into Yeah, couple
used to call it Roman Roman noodles. You're Roman numerals
when you're broke ramen at the store. What you like that?

(09:26):
Beef or chicken? Chicken? You like chicken? Yeah, yeah, that's
what I agree. Beef's got a weird flavor does have
a weird little deal to it. I'm not entirely sure
that's not a dog in there, you know, like there's
just this powder. Well, well, it's just kind of there's
a there's a weird aftertaste, a little weird aftertaste. The
chicken feels like, you know, a lot of sodium. Though
you're not gonna hit the button on that what you meant,

(09:48):
You're not You're not gonna hit the burton? But how
is that an accurate There's a lot of sodium and
said that the beef flavor tastes like dog. Yeah, there's
how is that? It's a weird aftertaste to come on, bro,
are you gonna immediately go to dog? Well? What are those?
But like what do we talk? Like? What what an animal?

(10:09):
Do you think? You know? If you do know in
the I'm not going to go down this lane. No,
I'm not going to do it. All point being, there's
a lot of sodium, a lot of sodium both those,
so I'm probably not the most recommended, thank you. But um,
we bring this all the way back around to talk
about the Washington Commandos quarterback situation and and it feels

(10:33):
to me like Carson Wentz is the play and that
you got going in. I don't know why would he
talk about it unless he's gonna go to Wentz because
d C is known to be a place of quarterback
controversies every year. Like that's like the running joke is

(10:55):
that there's a quarterback controversy since Joe Sasmind. Yeah, it's
actual great golden they changed it to heisman or a
thisman to rhyme with heisman, you know that's right? Yeah, yeah,
but it is theseman. You don't ever chew gum at

(11:16):
the draft if you just date Chipotle because Joe, thisman
not a fan of it at all. Yeah, something like that.
Choose good breath over you know gum. Yeah, you know
as far as chewing gum. How it looks you were
two and gum I was and you had bangs. Uh yeah,
I don't know that, but I had longer hair. Yes, yes,

(11:39):
I do feel like there was a missed opportunity for
a gum sponsorship there, you know, and and today world hungry,
Why why why didn't you do product placement bro Um?
At the time, I was not thinking what marketing product
could I put in this shot? As I sit to
wait and see you probably to go play, and had

(12:00):
felt That's what I'm saying. You should have did it,
man like, and every time they came to you should
have just been showing it up here. It is like
somebody chocked it up as a missed opportunity. Yeah, it's
all right, it's all right. Edie asked you had all
these he got Wendy's. Now come on, he be doing
some curls, you know the whole time, or some push ups,
I mean some air squat speaking my language, now, you

(12:21):
would have been scaring people if you did that like
they'd have been like, look at Brady Quinn in the
green room. He's he's ready to go right now. Look
at him. He's doing air squad. He's doing one legged lunges.
Oh my god, I mean, well listen like that. But
that's like like Brady and I grew up that way
and in Dublin, Ohio. Like if you didn't have a

(12:43):
weight bench around, you just got underneath somebody's car and
said you sure you don't have a flat just lift
that bass chopper took his jacket off. They started doing
manuals with his jacket. They were just getting it in.
You know, you get if you if you do it right.
You know, you could do a full body workout with
just the towel and and get smashed. And I'm not

(13:09):
talking to Deshaun Watson. I'm talking like real life. You
need a real life. You need like another person, though,
you need another person. Yeah, that's I have another person.
That's the key. But you could do curls, you could try,
you could do triceps, you could you could do rose.
You do everything with just a towel. I'm just all
about moving. I would I would have enjoyed watching Q

(13:33):
have a branded towel and doing an entire upper body
worker just because I played for the Cleveland Browns. It
just not being that I need to have a towel
fall in me everywhere. I would have stated that for
the record, it's the new trase the record. I mean,
if you're a Cleveland guy, it's the new crazee. Look

(13:55):
at his towel. Oh my gosh, where do you get
out from that shovel and snow? Please it? But you
know it's only by the way. How's he Deshaun Watson
on How's how's that office running in Cleveland? With DeShawn
Watson touchdowns? Four games? Yeah, but they won. They won

(14:16):
the first two games. He's been a right And the
advice of my lawyer, I assertain my rights and they
kicked the minute. Huh what say what the advice of
my lawyer, I assertain my rights under the fifth Amendute.
I mean that sounds like an innocent man to me.
I don't know about you guys. Listen one more time,

(14:41):
one more time. On the advice of my lawyer, I
assertain my rights under the fifth Amenute one two. It
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You like that chicken parm sandwich, the mozzarella chicken sandwich, too.

(16:08):
I mean, why wouldn't he Uh, we're from Wendy's. Come on.
Oh hell yeah, I think I've had it. It's good. No,
Al might right, you've at Chicken Palm sliders before. Fantastic,
also fantastic. Yeah, I think I want Chicken parm tonight. Yeah. Yeah,

(16:28):
it's decided. It's good every night in my book. Let's there. Um,
congratulations Ed Reid Hall of Famer, brand new head coach
of a head coach of Bethune Cookman. There, it is
the Wildcats in the swack. He's he's the the brand
new head coach there. He spent time in the NFL.

(16:49):
He was a DB's coach, I was a coach. He
was a DB's coach with the Bills. He's been on
the staff and and sort of it was like an
advisory role with Miami over the past couple of years.
But nonetheless, he's going to be joining the Dion Sanders ranks.
He takes over Bethune Cookman and so Ed Reid Hall

(17:09):
of Famer gets the gig there? How about that? About it?
That's awesome. That'd be able to land a guy like him,
and I happened now would top your program? I think that.
My initial thought was not surprised he gets a head
coaching job, um more that he was with the University
of Miami staff and why you know, he wouldn't have

(17:30):
maybe wanted to rise up those ranks, you know, to
to go up that way or even the NFL level,
because I'm sure he could immediately, you know, be be
a you know, a candidate or or a big time
coach at that level too. So UM, I mean, look,
maybe there's more to the story of the impact he
wants to have on young men and feels like college
is the better route to do it Bethune Cookman is

(17:50):
the better place to do it. But either way, happy
for him, happy for them. UM. I just you know,
I think you've got a bright mind like that, a
good leader like that. I don't know how long he'll
be there, because I think he's gonna get offers from
other Beger schools once he has success, and I do
believe he'll have success there. Yeah. I don't know what

(18:11):
type of coach at Reid is. I just know he's
a phenomenal human being. Um. I've got I got to
know him through the years. Um. Super humble dude has
always been about giving back. He's got a foundation where
he gives back back in New Orleans. Um, so I
wish them all all the best, you know, I don't

(18:32):
know I could assume what I believe him taking this
path is. I mean, we could call it the Dion
Sanders effect, you know, knowing that you can go and
and build almost almost like it's like, uh, you know,
like the training Training League or or the g League
or whatever. You know, you may call it the miners. Um. No,

(18:56):
it should be no shame in that. I think. I
think there's been a whole lot of debate and back
and forth and conversation about the idea of using a
school out of you know, whether it be the Swack
or or the Meak or whatever it may be, using
that school, as you just mentioned, to step from there

(19:20):
a stepping stone of sorts to be able to get
a bigger gig. I would I would push back on
all the people that have called Diana sellout or will
in the future call, you know, at Red a sellout
if and when he does well as a coach there
and goes on to a bigger school to to coach.
God forbid, anybody get a promotion, right, It happens. It

(19:44):
doesn't just happen. In fact, to to think that that's
something that's that's unique to HBCU would be ignorant. You know,
this happens all the time. You will see You'll see
someone leave a very nice school to go what would
seemingly be a lateral move, but they felt like that

(20:08):
was the better opportunity for them, that was a better
job for them. It happens all the time. I mean,
we were talking, we were just talking about Lane Kiffin.
He's at Old Miss and we were just talking about
if he would what take Tennessee. I think we were
talking about what was I don't think he's allowed in

(20:31):
the state, all right, well, yeah, right, but but there
were the conversations that he might go to Auburn, which
is even in the same conference. You know, they're both
SEC schools. So I just anyways, not not to get
off on a tangent, but I am happy for at Read.

(20:51):
But in the event that he does have success at
Bethune Cookman and is able to put together a coaching
staff that can recruit and can basically do what Dion did,
which is bring in legit power five D one guys
to come play for you and transform the program. He's

(21:13):
probably I wouldn't be surprised if he circles back and
goes and gets the head gig at Miami. I would
not be surprised. Now, I don't know how much time
Crystal Ball has or or you know, I don't They
didn't have a good season this year, did they. Yeah,
so I don't know how much time he has. But
I wouldn't be surprised if he went off showed that

(21:36):
he could build a staff show. I mean, he's already
he did head of operations at Miami right and helped
out as what like as a defensive back coach. I
think something to that effect. I wouldn't be surprised because
I know how much the dude loves his school. Like
he's like how I am with with Penn State. He
loves Miami. He absolutely loves Miami, and Miami loves him back.

(22:00):
I wouldn't be surprised if this is him going off
showing that he can do it, building his staff, and
then coming back and taking over Miami. If in the
event that that opportunity were to present itself. Yeah, I
mean I also say this, maybe I mean he was
originally hired by many ideas. So maybe ma Maria Crystal
Ball gets in there, they're not vibing or there. You know,
everything's not working out the way they had hoped, and

(22:22):
it's it's a scenario where he he you know, if
he wants that opportunity to come back, especially with some
of the powers that be that he's maybe spoken to,
They're like, hey, go get head coaching experience, because you
ball out there, you can come back and take over
his head coach. No different than you know Dion Sanders,
who you know went to Jackson State, built that thing up,
had success, and then he's getting multiple teams looking at him,

(22:43):
you know, with a South Florida, Colorado, some others that
were in the mix, and and he ends up at Colorado.
So maybe there's you know, that thought process there too,
where if things don't work out with Mario Crystal Ball.
Even though I do think Maria Crista Ball has a
long leash in Coral Gables, you know, at Miami, given
his his roots in South Florida and the fact that

(23:06):
I think he'll be successful, they just gotta give him
enough time. You know, He's he's one of those types
of coaches and leaders where I do think he can
bring it around. Um, But Bill Belichick, I remember watching
the it was like the NFL network did the one
hundred year sort of breakdown of the greatest hundred players
in the history of the league, whatever it was, and
the guy that he was most excited to talk about

(23:28):
was Ed Reid, Like he could not like other than
Lawrence Taylor. I don't know that Belichick's ever raved about
how good of a player somebody was, that he was
something special, he was some special as so like no
matter where he goes, he's going to carry that reputation
with him. And it's I mean, like just to hear Belichick,

(23:49):
who who's you know, never hands out a lot of
compliments to it to a lot of people. Just the
way he talked about just plays that Ed Reid would
make against even guys like Peyton Manning, where he would
make Peyton Manning think he was going on one side
of the field and circle all the b all the
way back around and make a play on it. I've
just I've never heard Belichick, I didn't Lawrence Taylor talk
about a coaching is very different than being a player though.

(24:12):
That's that's I mean, that's it's it's almost coaching is
like golf in a lot of ways. And you're a
big golf fans. Definitely not, definitely not, but I know enough.
The reason why I say is because golf will humble you.
By the way, I can't wait until we start talking
about like the Masters, because sit back and just listen.

(24:36):
Just sit back and listen to y'all. I just go
into my social media. Let y'all talk. I mean, that's
the beauty of having a three man show. You know.
When we pitched the show, and you know, well I
pitched myself with the show at LaVar to the show,
I was like, you know, they certainly can talk, you
know golf, and I won't be of any bother you know,

(24:59):
I have no assistance you know something from McDonald's um.
But yeah, it is because you don't do you have?
You have so many moving parts. You gotta know what
what you know, what the conditions are, what what the
golf course presents you, what what you know? What what

(25:21):
to use? You know, what iron to use? You know,
whatever it may be. And coaching is a lot of
the same because as a head coach you have to
deal It's the things that people don't see that you
have to deal with that are actually like the biggest,
the biggest parts of being a coach. What you see
on the field is really up. That's a product of

(25:42):
the coaching staff that you put together. And and if
you're good at delegating and you have the ability to
trust and and not you know, micromanage every single thing
that everybody is doing. Coaching is more or less, especially
you know at the college level, you have to you
have to sell. You have to be a seller. And

(26:05):
not only do you have to be a seller, you
have to be a closer. And you have to consistently
and constantly be a seller and a closer. You have
to constantly be managing expectations. And that is not an
easy balancing act to do. And I could only imagine

(26:28):
what the transfer portal being what it is. Can you
make Bethune Cookman relevant enough where the transfer portal even
becomes an issue for you in your program? Like there
are gonna be a lot of challenges that he has.
I mean, if you think about it, this isn't the
the first high profile hiring since Dion Eddie. Eddie George

(26:50):
is in Tennessee right now. We ain't talking about Eddie George.
There's not no blowouts on talking about how well Eddie
George has done and he's making his move. You don't
hear him being called to sell out or anything like that.
And he left us high and dry and all this
other stuff. You know why, because he ain't winning. He's
he's not it's not relevant enough what he's doing there.

(27:11):
You know, you got Hugh Jackson that Grambling. We're not
hearing about Hugh Jackson and what he's doing in his
coaching accolades at at Grambling. So he's it's not a
given that you're gonna go do what Dion did at
Jackson State. In fact, I would be willing to bet
against that anybody is actually even able to come close
to doing what Dion Dion did at Jackson State. So

(27:36):
I just hope he goes in with with the expectation
and the understanding of build your staff, you know, do
what it is that you need to do. I know
he understands organizational skills and stuff like that. I wish
him the best with it, but don't be surprised if
it just it's a it's a story that kind of
goes away. How I don't know. I didn't pay nothing.

(27:57):
He might have went undefeated for all I know. I
don't know what in it. Wow, man, I mean, but
nobody's even talking, and that would probably be why nobody's
talking about it. Well, the problem is, remember the Bright
Florest case came out, and then he you know, made
the claim versus the Dolphins, and then you have so
you said you Jackson is tanking that gramlin. I mean,

(28:19):
if you say up on that train, they're like no, no, no.
Based on Hugh Jackson's track record, I mean three games.
I mean, if you got a contract extension after going
one and thirty one, I mean, I can't imagine what
they're offered him now because he's won three games. So
I mean if he just still can't get over the
fact that you tried to be a part of that lawsuit.

(28:41):
Yet you signed the extension like you signed on for it,
Like you took the money, man, Like I don't know
that you can money on that. You took the money. Yeah,
Like that may be the case, but you signed the
extension like you if you knew what was going on,
why you signed the extension. It's like in that moment,

(29:03):
maybe you should have said something. Uh, it is two
pros and a cup of Joe. Here Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas knocked in there. By the way,
when when are you cowards? You cowards? I'm going to
dive into let's start gambling on the bowl games? Are
we doing the shore? Are we're making picks on bowl
games at any point during this Bull season? You know?

(29:24):
Let me just say this, all right, I saw LaVar's
notes and he had in there I believe the phrase
bowla pelluza got four on the Alright, let's sent that in.
All right, let's go bowling then, Lee, we want to
chalk that up for next hour. All right, four games today, baby,

(29:45):
don't get by the way, if you were asleep last night,
you watch the Badges just taking care of the Cowboys,
smack them around, Luke and Luke Fickle's uh like when
he just decided I'm gonna start coaching the Bull game.
That actually what did was he oversaw everything, didn't interject
your coach, and he had you know, Jim Leonard who
stayed on with the defense, and Bobby Ingram stayed on

(30:08):
with the offense, and he kind of just said he's
just gonna observe someone else did that last year, and
I feel like it worked out well for them. I
just can't remember who it was that kind of implemented
the same thing. Bobby Ingram we are they ran the
hell out of the boar was uh well, he stepped

(30:29):
in as the interim, but he wasn't the same. There
was another coach who was hired and instead of like
jumping right into help with the ball game and all that,
he just kind of sat back observed. Like even though
Jim Letard they're going to replace some of the new
defensive coordinator, they still let him kind of finish something.
Appalachian State coach did that last year, didn't he Maybe

(30:50):
that was who it was. I can't recall, but he
was there on the sideline. I know, I'll see this.
There's some cool stuff like Brian brom who you know,
they're going to Louisville. His brother je obviously is taking
the head coaching job there, but like he's staying on
at Perdue, you know, even though there's a you know,
Ryan Walters is now taking over the former DC at
Illinois to take that position, but it's it's cool that

(31:11):
he's standing on to finish, to finish it out you know,
like I think for those young men not to have
everyone just up and leave and then have them go
play a game. It's it's pretty cool to see what
he's doing, you know, it's interesting. And we were talking
about this, uh a little earlier in terms of like
using the school and leaving the school. Do you guys realize?
And I didn't. I didn't catch onto this until I

(31:31):
did the show on a Saturday. But you know Dion
Dion and some of these other coaches they coached in
the bowl game, they coached their last game. You know
that Nick Saban rolled out on Michigan State. Do you
remember that? I didn't even recall it. I didn't recall
it until play we brought it up. But but Nick
Saban did not coach his final game, the bowl game

(31:55):
for Michigan State before leaving for the Value And I'm
not done winning yet. Like he went on, he took
his services to the Value and didn't finish out with
So it's like, did he sell out Michigan State? Is
he a sellout? Like Mad with the l s U?
So what ye left? And one? A Nashville title, two
pros and a cup of Joe Here on Fox Sports Radio.

(32:17):
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(33:01):
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Drop bows on them. Two Pros and a Cup of
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with you here. You can hang out with us as
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(33:21):
it's the end of an era in the National Football League.
Apparently the end of an era in the NFL. Will
get to that story for you here on Fox Sports Radio.
But right now, it's time for something we do every
single Wednesday. We like to hand out some awards. It's
a little something we do called this. There are some
good things that happen, and there's some bad and then

(33:43):
there's some downright ugly things. It's type for good, bad,
and ugly, all right, so lead to laugh. Who's got
what this week? Well, as we do every single Wednesday,
we start with the good LaVar, you have the good
This week I'm excited for this week is one I'm
going to get the opportunity to see two major bowl

(34:05):
games take place. Tomorrow, leave for for Atlanta to see
the Peach Bowl. So I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited to
be able to see that game, UM in person. That
should be pretty pretty eventful, and then come right back,
turn back around and then come see the Rose Bowl. UM.
So you know, it's it's it's to be able to

(34:26):
see two major bowl games back to back like that.
I'd say that's pretty good. When you're in Atlantic to
go to tad Montana, I got it. I got it
on my list to do cold snaps. I'm gonna go
check my man Carlo Simmons out too, you know, shouts
out to my man low See. I think he's got
a spot called one, so I'm gonna go check him

(34:47):
out too. I think I think E J. Edge has
a spot in the Atlanta too. I might just make
my way around, you know what I mean? Yeah, why
not make my way around a little bit? I have
a little bit in a magic city? Yeah, I'm not,
probably not. They dropped Rob Parker's name when he got
a magic Yeah. Is that where the Lemon Pepper Wings

(35:09):
Lemon Pepper loose. That's our magic city. By the way,
I asked, I might need to go just to check
the wings out of I might go check wings like
that's such a that's such a crock. You go there
for the food. I'm not lying. The food is incredible.
I'm not Look when people say that, normally they're lying.
He's oh, it's the truths. Apparently their kitchen is legit. Well,

(35:32):
that's like had a major adult entertainment spot. The food
is usually grade eight like four or Fast Star food
and and and not to mention Saldi alone, they bill
you under a different company name, like under the restaurant name. Now,

(35:52):
Joan us you told me that's pretty standard though for
those places. I mean you know better than I obviously,
But is that true? I mean I don't even know,
Like Magic City, is that like where like they do
like tricks and stuff like. That's that's what happens. Yeah,
and make it disappears that right, yeah man, what they

(36:14):
can do. Yeah, man, some of them have nickname called
pol Assassins. I don't over to you that. That's not
that I have no probably money Mayweather told you, Yeah,
not us. Who's actually tell us? You know about that? Well?

(36:37):
From the good to the bed Jonas, you have the
bed um the Detroit Lions. Listen, Yet, all the momentum
in the world, everything was building towards a potential playoff run.
Not that they're dead in the water yet, there's still
an opportunity for Detroit. But yet all this momentum that
was built up, everybody feeling good about Dan Campbell and

(36:58):
the Detroit Lions, and then you go to Carolina and
you get absolutely blasted by the Panthers, absolutely destroyed. Just
an awful look for Detroit and and all those people
who thought, man, this is a different Detroit Lions team.
This isn't like the Detroit Lions you grew up with.
We've we've turned the corner, everything's heading in the right direction,

(37:19):
and then they revert back to what they've been over
the past decade plus. Awful performance. That's my bad for
the week to the Detroit Lions. Wow, from bad to worst? Brady,
what's ugly this week? I would stay out of sports realm.
There's some muggly stuff going on out there. Obviously. You know,
Nathaniel Hackett just got fired. I could throw that in
there is you know, things kind of got ugly down
the stretch, but they really didn't. I feel like it

(37:39):
was a pretty amicable breakup. Um. But it's all you
out there Christmas shopping. Okay, I was out there. I
did some last minute shopping. People are rude, bumping into people,
trying to snatch stuff out like there's only one left
the rest of the world. I mean, let's just have
some decency people, all right. I know there's many of

(38:00):
you who are going now for the discounts after Christmas.
Just be nice, be kind, you know, Excuse me, It's
not that complicated. It's not that hard. It's just a
material thing. Can't take it with you when you go
with the grape one day, that's all say. I'm gonna
leave it at that. You know, people are so lazy
they'll disturb your lazy Like I was being lazy, sat
down and a setting area in the mall, and these

(38:23):
lazy people were so lazy that they sat all up
on me, sat their bag on my leg, and sat
just plopped down. Which one of me? Right now we're three?
How we're three? It's coming coming right down the PA.
That's a base of big new kickoff. Yeah, Berto, hype

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